[RBW] Re: WTB- Bosco Bullmoose bars 580mm

[Stephen W.]

Btw, I'm in Wisconsin... just to let everyone know because I realize that 
shipping giant handlebars might be an issue. 

Best,

Stephen ✌

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[RBW] Re: WTB- Bosco Bullmoose bars 580mm

[Stephen W.]

Btw, I'm in Wisconsin and that shipping might pose an issue. Thought I'd give 
my location to clarify. Thanks again. ✌

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[RBW] WTB- Bosco Bullmoose bars 580mm

[Stephen W.]

Howdy folks,
I've been contemplating changing up the handlebars on my Hunqapillar and 
have landed on wanting to give the 580mm Bosco Bullmoose bar a whirl. Blue Lug 
has them in stock but I figured I'd try here first in an attempt to save some 
money and jet fuel needed to deliver them. That being said, if you're looking 
to unload a 580mm Bosco Bullmoose bar let me know! Thanks. ✌

Thanks for looking. 

Stephen 

(It might be easier to contact me via "stephenmwebster at yahoo dot com")

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[RBW] Re: Cantilever brake recommendations

[Brady Smith]

I was sort of surprised upon buying my BMC monster cross that Mike Varley specs 
Tektro Oryxs, but honestly I’ve had good experiences with them. On my dad 
bike/commuter (a heavily customized Jamis Aurora), I have the Oryxs with Kool 
Stop dual compound pads and I’ve had no problem stopping down steep grades with 
40 pounds of stuff in the rain. I’ve since upgraded my Monster Cross to Dia 
Compe 980s (mostly aesthetic reasons), but for a bike that I ride hard year 
round regardless of weather, the Oryxs are a good value.

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[RBW] Re: FS: Orange Rivendell Rambouillet 60cm

[christian poppell]

Beautiful bike and a good deal! If I didn't already have one...

Mine is a 62cm that's slightly too big for me. If someone wants to buy this 
and trade frames straight up I would be interested depending on 
frame/overall condition. 

Good luck with the sale,
Christian
Berkeley, CA

On Friday, July 17, 2020 at 3:36:58 PM UTC-7, John Beaston wrote:
>
> Orange Rivendell Rambouillet 60cm $850 Complete
> Original owner. My commuter for many years. It's just not getting ridden 
> much after retirement and we're culling the herd as part of downsizing.
> Serial RB 0419.
> Paint in good condition. One area under rear stay has paint rubbed off 
> (but protected by clearcoat). Not noticeable under usual riding conditions.
> Set up as 1X9. Sugino XD cranks. 
> Ultegra rear derailleur. Ultegra downtube shifter.
> Ultegra brakes and levers.
> Ultegra hubs with Mavic Open Pro rims.
> Rear and partial front RCB Full Wood fenders.
> Nitto stem and Noodle bars.
> Nitto rear rack.
> WTB saddle with Nitto seatpost.
> Sans pedals.
>
> Prefer local Portland, OR sale (PayPal) but will ship via buyer-paid Bike 
> Flights. Happy to provide more pics upon request.
>
> [image: Rambouillet.jpg]
>

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[RBW] Re: Cantilever brake recommendations

[Ash]

When I built my Appaloosa I went through a few cantis over 12-14 months 
before setting with v-brakes.  I have not tried CX 50/70, but VO Gran Cru 
and Avid Shorty Ultimate were very good.  I do remember that with Grand Cru 
I was able to remove front wheel without deflating (2" tires)

Of late I've been experimenting with using a modulator for the front 
v-brake. I'm liking what it does.  Will@Riv had suggested a good combo 
would be canti for the front and v-brake for the rear.  I might build the 
Susie that way.

On Thursday, 16 July 2020 at 07:57:01 UTC-7 Joel Stern wrote:

> I don’t think I need to go with V brakes (smack me if I am wrong), and I 
> an unwilling to buy Paul’s due to price.  I got a recommendation on Velo 
> orange grand cru at $145 a set.  
>
> Ant thoughts on what to use on an Appaloosa  or Atlantis? 
>
> If I use cantis I have a nice NOS set of Suntour levers, with V’s I start 
> from scratch.
>
> Thanks 
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: FS: Rivendell Protovelo Bleriot S 57cm

[Paul Budnitz]

Thanks Ted!

☆ Paul

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On Jul 17, 2020, 5:38 PM -0400, Ted Durant , wrote:
> On Friday, July 17, 2020 at 4:30:05 PM UTC-5 ☆ Paul ☆ wrote:
> > > Ted, maybe I missed it in your post, but where did you get the S 
> > > couplers added?
> >
> > Bilenky Cycle Works, Philadelphia
> >
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Re: [RBW] Re: FS: Rivendell Protovelo Bleriot S 57cm

[Ted Durant]

On Friday, July 17, 2020 at 4:30:05 PM UTC-5 ☆ Paul ☆ wrote:

> Ted, maybe I missed it in your post, but where did you get the S 
> couplers added?


Bilenky Cycle Works, Philadelphia
 

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[RBW] Re: Bike frame suggestions for longish distance 95% road comfort

[Greg J]

that's a great looking bike!  congrats!  it is exactly what I would have 
suggested in the first place also.  Lots of older, nice riding frames with 
clearance for bigger tires.

best, Greg

On Friday, July 17, 2020 at 1:22:56 PM UTC-7, Andrew Turner wrote:
>
> First ride report for the FW Evans frame! 
> Long story short, I simply couldn't be happier with how the bike performs. 
> It rides most similar to the Roadini I had a while back with it's springy 
> front-end and general Cadillac feel but with the added bonus of lugs. I do 
> suspect it has a lower trail, though. There's a slight twitchiness unloaded 
> in the front as you see it here but that will be resolved soon. Things left 
> to do on the bike include installing the front fender, an M12 rack + 
> basket, and upgrading the tires to some Jack Brown's. There's a chance I'll 
> replace the VO Nouveau Randonneur Handlebar as well. They're nice but 
> incredibly different than what I'm used to feeling, mainly due to how sharp 
> the swoops are. 
> [image: B1.jpg]
> On Monday, June 29, 2020 at 10:47:10 PM UTC-5 Benz Ouyang, Sunnyvale, CA 
> wrote:
>
>> On Sunday, June 28, 2020 at 1:19:47 PM UTC-7, Brady Smith wrote:
>>>
>>> If you decide low trail is what you want, you might consider the Soma 
>>> Grand Randonneur. Designed by the Boulder Bicycle people, but way, way 
>>> cheaper than their All-Road.…
>>>
>>
>> …not to mention that Boulder Bicycle had kinda stopped making frames 
>>  
>> to concentrate on their vintage parts offerings.
>>
>> Andrew (the OP) is familiar with Velo-Orange, so I don't know why he 
>> didn't put the Pass Hunter on his list. It's got all his wants, except for 
>> rim brakes. OK, maybe a 35mm ø steel downtube isn't going to plane…
>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: FS: Rivendell Protovelo Bleriot S 57cm

[☆ Paul ☆]

Ted, maybe I missed it in your post, but where did you get the S couplers 
added?

I'd love to do that to a bicycle of mine, just don't know where is good to 
go!

Thank you!  Paul

On Friday, July 17, 2020 at 12:45:13 PM UTC-4 Brendan Willard in SF wrote:

> I’m truly sad to have missed out on this bike as it would have replaced my 
> Travelers Check AND Bleriot.  Congrats and enjoy!
>
> Brendan
>
> Speaking in Thumbs 
>
> On Jul 17, 2020, at 9:19 AM, RJR Rempel  wrote:
>
> 
>
> Just to put a bookend on this thread, I'm the lucky owner of this 
> beautiful bike. Ted delivered on everything, as expected. Quick shipment 
> and the condition was described well. This will be my (for now) 
> commuter/grocery-getter and (future, hopefully) light tourer. Mounted up a 
> tubus nova rack to the front for my gaudy camo panniers. I will confess, 
> I'm pleasantly surprised at the ride quality--it's a great bike that just 
> happens to pack down nicely for travel. If work travel ever returns to 
> normal, I'll be spending an extra day in some select locations and taking 
> this along with me. Ted, thanks for the great process. Cheers!
>
> Robb
>
> On Wednesday, July 1, 2020 at 5:40:04 PM UTC-5, Ted Durant wrote:
>>
>> For sale is my "Travelo" - a Rivendell Protovelo Bleriot that has S 
>> couplers installed by Bilenky and a recent repaint (with Bleriot decals and 
>> head badge) by Waterford. The paint is a stunning Metallic Copper with 
>> cream head tube and fork, which I like to call "root beer with a creamy 
>> head". I'm getting a travel bike that allows even fatter tires than these, 
>> so sadly this one has to go. Will sell complete or will sell as 
>> frame/fork/hs along with whatever other components you want to purchase. 
>> There are a few scuffs/scratches on the frame from travel. Saddle and 
>> pedals are NOT included.
>>
>> Asking $1450 for the whole bike (no saddle or pedals), $975 for the 
>> frame/fork/hs (and travel cases), plus shipping. It will ship in its S 
>> hard case, probably by Bike Flights, with all the tubes padded. Also 
>> included with either the frame or whole bike is an S soft case, which I 
>> will ship separately.
>>
>> Photos attached to this group posting. If you have trouble getting them, 
>> ask and I'll send them to you.
>>
>> The current build includes:
>> Stronglight headset
>> Velo Orange wheels
>> Compass Babyshoe Pass EL tires
>> Rivendell Silver dual-pivot long-reach brakes
>> Aero Gran Compe brake levers
>> Ritchey WCS cranks (170mm) with Willow 49/34 chainrings
>> Shimano Octalink BB
>> Shimano Deore XT rear and 105 front derailleurs
>> Shimano 9-speed bar end shifters
>> Shimano 9-speed cassette 12-32 (Harris Cycles custom touring mix)
>> Nitto Model 177 handlebars (44cm)
>> Nitto/Ritchey 90deg (9cm) stem (OEM from '92 XO-1!)
>> Nitto S65 seat post
>>
>> Ted Durant
>> Milwaukee, WI USA
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[RBW] Re: My New Atlantis

[☆ Paul ☆]

Thank you Terry. Yes, seems to mean it's a Taiwan version. :)

On Friday, July 17, 2020 at 12:18:44 PM UTC-4 Ian Terry wrote:

> Gorgeous build, Paul! Really, top notch. 
>
> I can't say it with 100% confidence, but I think MIT stands for "Made in 
> Taiwan." 
>
> Happy trails,
>
> Ian Terry,
> Miami, FL
>
>
> On Monday, July 13, 2020 at 10:46:18 AM UTC-4, ☆ Paul ☆ wrote:
>
>> Hello Everyone. I'm new-is here.
>>
>> Almost finished building up my new Atlantis MIT and thought I'd share it. 
>> *What 
>> does MIT stand for, anyway?*
>>
>> Finally coming to the realization that a really upright geometry makes me 
>> happiest. Being a bit slower, I force my friends to slow down too and 
>> conversation is the result.
>>
>> A little bit unconventionally for a Rivendell (I think?) I mounted a 1x10 
>> SRAM drivetrain, which works brilliantly on this frame. Also took The 
>> Deacon's advice and put the lovely Berthoud Mente saddle on, and committed 
>> to ride the brick till it's comfortable... but a few days ago I chickened 
>> out and dunked it in a bucket of warm water and put on lots of mink oil 
>> (scary advice from the Internet, but WTF)... and it worked! Already 
>> super-comfy.
>>
>> Still waiting on VO fenders, and a Nitto seatpost to match the stem. The 
>> new G-One Speed tires are amazing, these are 50C and they roll so fast, 
>> like much smaller tires. 
>>
>> Having trouble posting more than one image, will put-up more upon request.
>>
>> (PS: I finished a very similar build on a twin-top-tube Sam Hillborne for 
>> a charity auction, and I ended up buying it myself, long story. It's a 
>> little too big and I may put up for sale at some point soon... will post 
>> when I do.)
>>
>> I love the positivity on this forum. Much love to everyone, 
>>
>> Paul
>>
>> [image: 1.jpeg]
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>

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Re: [RBW] Re: XO-1 or Roadini

[R Shannon]

Zack,

Your question refers to the Homer.
Mine checks all the boxes. Did a 46 mile ride on it yesterday in 90 degree temp.
Ride quality: Smooth as silk. 
Luxury: As far as appearance goes -It’s a looker for sure.
Speed: How fast do you need to go?

Best,
Rich in ATL



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> On Jul 17, 2020, at 12:18 PM, Zack Medow  wrote:
> 
> 
> Jason, when you say luxury, are you just referring to the aesthetics of also 
> the ride quality. 
> 
>>> On Jul 13, 2020, at 10:29 PM, Jason Fuller  wrote:
>>> 
>> 
>> The XO-1 is a very cool collector item, but I'll come right out and say it: 
>> it is overpriced for its ride quality, due to its collector status. For a 
>> Sunday driver I think it's a great bike but for an everyday, long distance 
>> road bike, the Roadini has another 30 years of Grant's experience built into 
>> it despite the modest TIG welds.  I would also consider the Homer, if you 
>> don't mind giving up a little bit of speed for a whole lot of luxury.  
>> 
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[RBW] Re: Cantilever brake recommendations

[Clayton Scott]

I really like the Campagnolo cantis from a few years ago (made by Tektro I 
believe). They are no longer made but come up occasionally. I have 2 pairs 
and got both for around $80 dollars a while back. Here is what they look 
like: https://www.evanscycles.com/campagnolo-cx-cantilever-brakes-EV153864

Besides them, most Shimano cantis I tried have been good.

If you believe that "harder is better" I recommend some Empella froglegs. 
They allow you to waste and exorbitant amount of time and still likely 
won't stop your bike. 

Clayton Scott
HBG, CA







On Thursday, July 16, 2020 at 7:57:01 AM UTC-7, Joel Stern wrote:
>
> I don’t think I need to go with V brakes (smack me if I am wrong), and I 
> an unwilling to buy Paul’s due to price.  I got a recommendation on Velo 
> orange grand cru at $145 a set.  
>
> Ant thoughts on what to use on an Appaloosa  or Atlantis? 
>
> If I use cantis I have a nice NOS set of Suntour levers, with V’s I start 
> from scratch.
>
> Thanks 
>

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Re: [RBW] Cantilever brake recommendations

[Jason Fuller]

I have Tektro 720s on my Hillborne and they're okay. Their power is fine 
and their price is hard to beat, but they have limited adjustability.  IRD 
Cafam are a nice brake with Paul-like adjustability (great!) but for their 
price you're too close to Paul pricing to not make the jump, IMO. 

As mentioned, old Shimano canti's work surprisingly well. Paired with good 
pads, you could just get an old set from a local community bike shop for a 
couple dollars and be done! 

On Friday, 17 July 2020 at 07:23:32 UTC-7 Joel Stern wrote:

> Yeah, I’m not going to spend that kind of money, will look at affordable 
> good quality as you state.  
>
> On Fri, Jul 17, 2020 at 1:00 AM Philip Williamson  
> wrote:
>
>> I like CX50s for clarity of setup. They work well, and they look okay. 
>> They are pretty cheap, compared to those Suntour XCs. Once you’re talking 
>> $180 brake sets, you may as well pay $260 for Paul Minimotos. Easy setup, 
>> extremely awesome stopping power, and no brake judder. 
>>
>> Philip
>> Santa Rosa,CA
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Re: [RBW] Re: XO-1 or Roadini

[Joe Bernard]

Zack, check out this "Mark's build" on the Garage Sale page. Then go buy it! 

https://www.rivbike.com/products/50cm-roadini-web-special-complete-mark-spec

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Re: [RBW] Re: Charlie H Gallop!

[kim young]

the Rivnobi!


https://www.rivbike.com/blogs/peeking-through-the-knothole/no-4-2020-early-feb-topics?_pos=9&_sid=5f9834c54&_ss=r

On Fri, Jul 17, 2020 at 9:20 AM Coal Bee Rye Anne <
lionsrugbyalu...@gmail.com> wrote:

> My memory is quite hazy lately but I vaguely recall mention of a
> 'complete-only' offering in the works being something in collaboration with
> Mark Nobilette - maybe non-custom-made-to-orders or something along those
> lines?  I think the gist of it was a complete Nobilette made Rivendell
> for approximately the same cost as a custom frameset?  I could very well be
> confusing things and have been completely out of the loop but there was
> something mentioned like that a while back in one of the
> Blug/Blahg/Emails.  Can't dig it up right now but just thought I'd throw it
> out there in case any others remember and could clarify?
>
>
>
> On Friday, July 17, 2020 at 10:07:31 AM UTC-4, scott minor wrote:
>
>> Ah, I hope that’s the case.  I’m increasingly attracted to the Gallup and
>> very curious about its development moving forward.  As for the
>> complete-only bikes, yes I recall now that those are to be Nobilette built
>> bikes offered as completes, not the Gallup.  Thanks for chiming in and
>> helping clear that up.
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Re: [RBW] Re: Reading saddle threads, B17, Berthoud Mente

[Joel Stern]

Thanks Dan.

On Fri, Jul 17, 2020 at 12:19 PM Dan Vee  wrote:

> I have a berthoud Aspin and a b17. I find so far that the Aspin is more
> comfortable a little less upright and the b17 is more comfortable if your
> upright.
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Re: [RBW] Re: XO-1 or Roadini

[David Johnston]

A used Bleriot or San Marcos should also be on your short list.

-Dave J

On 7/13/20, Zack Medow  wrote:
> Agreed. I made this post to the group a few days ago when the price was
> still reasonable! Definitely off my list now. And encouraging to know that
> all of you would prefer the Roadini anyway.
>
> On Monday, July 13, 2020 at 3:04:52 PM UTC-4, Joe Bernard wrote:
>>
>> Oof, I've seen the XO you're looking at..your competition for bidding have
>>
>> lost their minds! It's a lovely piece of history but I don't think they're
>>
>> worth what those folks seem willing to pay. Modern Rivs are better bikes.
>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: FS: Rivendell Protovelo Bleriot S 57cm

[Brendan Willard]

I’m truly sad to have missed out on this bike as it would have replaced my 
Travelers Check AND Bleriot.  Congrats and enjoy!

Brendan

Speaking in Thumbs 

> On Jul 17, 2020, at 9:19 AM, RJR Rempel  wrote:
> 
> 
> Just to put a bookend on this thread, I'm the lucky owner of this beautiful 
> bike. Ted delivered on everything, as expected. Quick shipment and the 
> condition was described well. This will be my (for now) 
> commuter/grocery-getter and (future, hopefully) light tourer. Mounted up a 
> tubus nova rack to the front for my gaudy camo panniers. I will confess, I'm 
> pleasantly surprised at the ride quality--it's a great bike that just happens 
> to pack down nicely for travel. If work travel ever returns to normal, I'll 
> be spending an extra day in some select locations and taking this along with 
> me. Ted, thanks for the great process. Cheers!
> 
> Robb
> 
>> On Wednesday, July 1, 2020 at 5:40:04 PM UTC-5, Ted Durant wrote:
>> For sale is my "Travelo" - a Rivendell Protovelo Bleriot that has S 
>> couplers installed by Bilenky and a recent repaint (with Bleriot decals and 
>> head badge) by Waterford. The paint is a stunning Metallic Copper with cream 
>> head tube and fork, which I like to call "root beer with a creamy head". I'm 
>> getting a travel bike that allows even fatter tires than these, so sadly 
>> this one has to go. Will sell complete or will sell as frame/fork/hs along 
>> with whatever other components you want to purchase. There are a few 
>> scuffs/scratches on the frame from travel. Saddle and pedals are NOT 
>> included.
>> 
>> Asking $1450 for the whole bike (no saddle or pedals), $975 for the 
>> frame/fork/hs (and travel cases), plus shipping. It will ship in its S 
>> hard case, probably by Bike Flights, with all the tubes padded. Also 
>> included with either the frame or whole bike is an S soft case, which I 
>> will ship separately.
>> 
>> Photos attached to this group posting. If you have trouble getting them, ask 
>> and I'll send them to you.
>> 
>> The current build includes:
>> Stronglight headset
>> Velo Orange wheels
>> Compass Babyshoe Pass EL tires
>> Rivendell Silver dual-pivot long-reach brakes
>> Aero Gran Compe brake levers
>> Ritchey WCS cranks (170mm) with Willow 49/34 chainrings
>> Shimano Octalink BB
>> Shimano Deore XT rear and 105 front derailleurs
>> Shimano 9-speed bar end shifters
>> Shimano 9-speed cassette 12-32 (Harris Cycles custom touring mix)
>> Nitto Model 177 handlebars (44cm)
>> Nitto/Ritchey 90deg (9cm) stem (OEM from '92 XO-1!)
>> Nitto S65 seat post
>> 
>> Ted Durant
>> Milwaukee, WI USA
>> 
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Re: [RBW] Re: Charlie H Gallop!

[Coal Bee Rye Anne]

My memory is quite hazy lately but I vaguely recall mention of a 
'complete-only' offering in the works being something in collaboration with 
Mark Nobilette - maybe non-custom-made-to-orders or something along those 
lines?  I think the gist of it was a complete Nobilette made Rivendell 
for approximately the same cost as a custom frameset?  I could very well be 
confusing things and have been completely out of the loop but there was 
something mentioned like that a while back in one of the 
Blug/Blahg/Emails.  Can't dig it up right now but just thought I'd throw it 
out there in case any others remember and could clarify?



On Friday, July 17, 2020 at 10:07:31 AM UTC-4, scott minor wrote:

> Ah, I hope that’s the case.  I’m increasingly attracted to the Gallup and 
> very curious about its development moving forward.  As for the 
> complete-only bikes, yes I recall now that those are to be Nobilette built 
> bikes offered as completes, not the Gallup.  Thanks for chiming in and 
> helping clear that up.

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[RBW] Re: XO-1 or Roadini

[Zack Medow]

Agreed. I made this post to the group a few days ago when the price was 
still reasonable! Definitely off my list now. And encouraging to know that 
all of you would prefer the Roadini anyway. 

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>
> Oof, I've seen the XO you're looking at..your competition for bidding have 
> lost their minds! It's a lovely piece of history but I don't think they're 
> worth what those folks seem willing to pay. Modern Rivs are better bikes. 

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Re: [RBW] Was the Hunqapillar designed for Albatross bars?

[iamkeith]

07/13/20
Jay is correct, Hunquapillar preceded Bosco.  One theory, that may or may not 
be accurate, but which could help with understanding could be that Grant 
typically designs bars around frames (or frame ideas) instead of the other way 
around?

For example, Bullmoose was designed to go with the Bombadil - an intentional 
throwback to mid-80s mountain bikes.  Bosco was desiged to go with the "long" 
bikes - the first appaloosa/mystery bikes and Clems.  The Hunquapillar was 
origially thought of as sort of less-expensive Bombadil, so that might argue 
for Bullmoose as the default bar?

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[RBW] Re: FS: Rivendell Protovelo Bleriot S 57cm

[RJR Rempel]

Just to put a bookend on this thread, I'm the lucky owner of this beautiful 
bike. Ted delivered on everything, as expected. Quick shipment and the 
condition was described well. This will be my (for now) 
commuter/grocery-getter and (future, hopefully) light tourer. Mounted up a 
tubus nova rack to the front for my gaudy camo panniers. I will confess, 
I'm pleasantly surprised at the ride quality--it's a great bike that just 
happens to pack down nicely for travel. If work travel ever returns to 
normal, I'll be spending an extra day in some select locations and taking 
this along with me. Ted, thanks for the great process. Cheers!

Robb

On Wednesday, July 1, 2020 at 5:40:04 PM UTC-5, Ted Durant wrote:
>
> For sale is my "Travelo" - a Rivendell Protovelo Bleriot that has S 
> couplers installed by Bilenky and a recent repaint (with Bleriot decals and 
> head badge) by Waterford. The paint is a stunning Metallic Copper with 
> cream head tube and fork, which I like to call "root beer with a creamy 
> head". I'm getting a travel bike that allows even fatter tires than these, 
> so sadly this one has to go. Will sell complete or will sell as 
> frame/fork/hs along with whatever other components you want to purchase. 
> There are a few scuffs/scratches on the frame from travel. Saddle and 
> pedals are NOT included.
>
> Asking $1450 for the whole bike (no saddle or pedals), $975 for the 
> frame/fork/hs (and travel cases), plus shipping. It will ship in its S 
> hard case, probably by Bike Flights, with all the tubes padded. Also 
> included with either the frame or whole bike is an S soft case, which I 
> will ship separately.
>
> Photos attached to this group posting. If you have trouble getting them, 
> ask and I'll send them to you.
>
> The current build includes:
> Stronglight headset
> Velo Orange wheels
> Compass Babyshoe Pass EL tires
> Rivendell Silver dual-pivot long-reach brakes
> Aero Gran Compe brake levers
> Ritchey WCS cranks (170mm) with Willow 49/34 chainrings
> Shimano Octalink BB
> Shimano Deore XT rear and 105 front derailleurs
> Shimano 9-speed bar end shifters
> Shimano 9-speed cassette 12-32 (Harris Cycles custom touring mix)
> Nitto Model 177 handlebars (44cm)
> Nitto/Ritchey 90deg (9cm) stem (OEM from '92 XO-1!)
> Nitto S65 seat post
>
> Ted Durant
> Milwaukee, WI USA
>
>

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[RBW] Re: My New Atlantis

[Ian Terry]

Gorgeous build, Paul! Really, top notch. 

I can't say it with 100% confidence, but I think MIT stands for "Made in 
Taiwan." 

Happy trails,

Ian Terry,
Miami, FL

On Monday, July 13, 2020 at 10:46:18 AM UTC-4, ☆ Paul ☆ wrote:
>
> Hello Everyone. I'm new-is here.
>
> Almost finished building up my new Atlantis MIT and thought I'd share it. 
> *What 
> does MIT stand for, anyway?*
>
> Finally coming to the realization that a really upright geometry makes me 
> happiest. Being a bit slower, I force my friends to slow down too and 
> conversation is the result.
>
> A little bit unconventionally for a Rivendell (I think?) I mounted a 1x10 
> SRAM drivetrain, which works brilliantly on this frame. Also took The 
> Deacon's advice and put the lovely Berthoud Mente saddle on, and committed 
> to ride the brick till it's comfortable... but a few days ago I chickened 
> out and dunked it in a bucket of warm water and put on lots of mink oil 
> (scary advice from the Internet, but WTF)... and it worked! Already 
> super-comfy.
>
> Still waiting on VO fenders, and a Nitto seatpost to match the stem. The 
> new G-One Speed tires are amazing, these are 50C and they roll so fast, 
> like much smaller tires. 
>
> Having trouble posting more than one image, will put-up more upon request.
>
> (PS: I finished a very similar build on a twin-top-tube Sam Hillborne for 
> a charity auction, and I ended up buying it myself, long story. It's a 
> little too big and I may put up for sale at some point soon... will post 
> when I do.)
>
> I love the positivity on this forum. Much love to everyone, 
>
> Paul
>
> [image: 1.jpeg]
>
>
>
>
>

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[RBW] Re: Introduction and "Classic" Roadini

[Zack Medow]

That's a really gorgeous build. Congratulations and enjoy!

On Monday, July 13, 2020 at 10:46:41 AM UTC-4, Jim Plaugher wrote:
>
> Hi folks! I'd like to properly introduce myself and tell the story of my 
> first Rivendell, a 58 Roadini. 
>  I have been a long time listener to this group, but for many years, 
> bicycling has meant commutng year round in the midwest, on my modified Fuji 
> MTB, a bike I used think had a long wheelbase! As a Rivendell member in the 
> days when the "Reader" was on paper, I enjoyed  Grant's writings 
> celebrating the practicalness of bikes, usefulness of saddlebags and his 
> encouragement to prioritize comfort. I enjoy reading all of Grant's 
> writings and I enjoy reading the posts to this group. You are all so 
> expressive with words! I hope it rubs off on me, as I would like to be 
> better at writing. 
> For the last year I have been living in North East Iowa on top of a bluff 
> with 2.5 miles of a steep gravel road before I hit the scenic paved highway 
> along the Mississippi River. So the Roadini in the picture is nice and 
> clean as it is not my first choice when I head out the door. 26X2.00 feels 
> safer to me than 700X35C on the gravel. But the Leo is really nice to ride, 
> once on the highway! 
> I am sentimental about some bike components and often remember the history 
> of parts I have traded. This bike has a Phil Wood front hub my family gave 
> me for Christmas.The rear is a 40H first generation Phil freewheel hub with 
> radial lacing on the none-drive side. It came from trading parts from a 
> Peugeot PX1O. I gave up the sewup wheels in favor of parts,I considered to 
> be more practical. The  noodle bars and the Shimano 600 cranks also came 
> from the Peugeot. So now I have a bike with a frame from Rivendell, not 
> just various parts. I enjoy experiencing the Rivendell design through 
> riding, and not just reading! I hope to contrbute to conversations in the 
> future. 
> Jim in Lansing Iowa

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Re: [RBW] Re: Reading saddle threads, B17, Berthoud Mente

[Dan Vee]

I have a berthoud Aspin and a b17. I find so far that the Aspin is more 
comfortable a little less upright and the b17 is more comfortable if your 
upright.  

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Re: [RBW] Was the Hunqapillar designed for Albatross bars?

[Ginz]

My recollection is that Hunqapillar top tubes were relatively longer and were 
more for bullmoose and albatross than drop bars.   This was long before the 
super long tubes and super long sweep bars. 

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Re: [RBW] Re: XO-1 or Roadini

[Zack Medow]

Yeah I'm really glad I didn't waste my time bidding on it.

On Thu, Jul 16, 2020 at 3:55 PM Joe Bernard  wrote:

> $2515?? No. That's madness.
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[RBW] Hubbuh frame (medium/orange) - price reduction

[Adam Kimball]

Price drop on my HH tandem frameset.  It's orange/medium, brand new.  
Includes seatposts and all associated hardware that came from Riv.  $1600 + 
shipping.  Pics here  (scroll down, don't use 
the next post button)

Silver cranks available too, for extra.  Frame is in Boise, ID.

Adam

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Re: [RBW] Re: XO-1 or Roadini

[Zack Medow]

I’d be getting a 50cm. My understanding is that the newest models have wider 
clearance and can clear a 38mm or 33mm with a fender. 

> On Jul 13, 2020, at 11:31 AM, ted  wrote:
> 
> 
> Are you sure that a Roadini will fit 38mm tires? Would you be getting the 
> 47cm size that is built for 650b or one of the larger sizes that is 700c?
> 
>> On Monday, July 13, 2020 at 7:47:40 AM UTC-7, Zack Medow wrote:
>> RBW Owners Bunch I need your help!
>> 
>> I'm looking to venture into the world of my first Rivendell/Bridgestone. 
>> 
>> I'm at an impasse right now. I'm thinking of putting in an order for a 
>> Roadini and set it up with the new Shikoro 38mm tires Riv is carrying. But 
>> there's also a mint condition XO-1 right now on eBay in my size. 
>> 
>> I'm going to be using this bike for road and city riding, maybe some very 
>> light grav grav. I have a Jones for a trail bike, so that's not really a 
>> concern. My goal is to find a supple steel bike that fits a wider tire 
>> without resorting to a disc break and the stiff fork that comes with it. 
>> 
>> Which one would you go for?? Is this a silly comparison?? 
>> 
>> 
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Re: [RBW] Re: XO-1 or Roadini

[Zack Medow]

Many thanks, Rich! For me it was down to a Roadini or a Homer. The fact that 
Riv just sold out of my size in Homers really decided it for me. 

> On Jul 14, 2020, at 10:42 AM, RichS  wrote:
> 
> 
> Zack,
> 
> No experience with a Roadini but a synopsis of 
> my current Rivs:
> 
> MIT Homer - Lightest of the three. Now this is only a guess based on past 
> observations from others on the list - the Homer and the Roadini frames weigh 
> about the same. No doubt about it, the Homer rides lighter and snappier than 
> my Sam and Atlantis. Note: for comparison my Homer and Sam have identical 
> builds and geometry.
> 
> MIT Sam - Handles a good bit like the Homer but its stoutness makes it more 
> akin to the Atlantis. In my experience what sets it apart from the Atlantis 
> are the 650b wheels and the angles.
> 
> MUSA Atlantis - Size 53 with 26" wheels. The Atlantis is in a class by itself 
> with the smaller wheels, less slack geometry, the term "planted" comes to 
> mind, and likely different tubing from the Sam.
> 
> Whichever Riv you decide on, you can't go wrong.
> 
> Best,
> Rich in ATL 
> 
> 
>> On Monday, July 13, 2020 at 10:47:40 AM UTC-4, Zack Medow wrote:
>> RBW Owners Bunch I need your help!
>> 
>> I'm looking to venture into the world of my first Rivendell/Bridgestone. 
>> 
>> I'm at an impasse right now. I'm thinking of putting in an order for a 
>> Roadini and set it up with the new Shikoro 38mm tires Riv is carrying. But 
>> there's also a mint condition XO-1 right now on eBay in my size. 
>> 
>> I'm going to be using this bike for road and city riding, maybe some very 
>> light grav grav. I have a Jones for a trail bike, so that's not really a 
>> concern. My goal is to find a supple steel bike that fits a wider tire 
>> without resorting to a disc break and the stiff fork that comes with it. 
>> 
>> Which one would you go for?? Is this a silly comparison?? 
>> 
>> 
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[RBW] Re: XO-1 or Roadini

[Ian Terry]

I don't think it's a silly comparison. The X0-1 on ebay looks pretty 
fantastic. If it were me, I'd look at how much it was going to cost you to 
do the full build of the roadini. If it was similar or just a bit more 
expensive, I'd go roadini. If the X0-1 can be had for less, then I think 
it'd be a great buy.

On Monday, July 13, 2020 at 10:47:40 AM UTC-4, Zack Medow wrote:
>
> RBW Owners Bunch I need your help!
>
> I'm looking to venture into the world of my first Rivendell/Bridgestone. 
>
> I'm at an impasse right now. I'm thinking of putting in an order for a 
> Roadini and set it up with the new Shikoro 38mm tires Riv is carrying. But 
> there's also a mint condition XO-1 right now on eBay in my size. 
>
> I'm going to be using this bike for road and city riding, maybe some very 
> light grav grav. I have a Jones for a trail bike, so that's not really a 
> concern. My goal is to find a supple steel bike that fits a wider tire 
> without resorting to a disc break and the stiff fork that comes with it. 
>
> Which one would you go for?? Is this a silly comparison?? 
>
>
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Re: [RBW] Re: XO-1 or Roadini

[Zack Medow]

Jason, when you say luxury, are you just referring to the aesthetics of also 
the ride quality. 

> On Jul 13, 2020, at 10:29 PM, Jason Fuller  wrote:
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> 
> The XO-1 is a very cool collector item, but I'll come right out and say it: 
> it is overpriced for its ride quality, due to its collector status. For a 
> Sunday driver I think it's a great bike but for an everyday, long distance 
> road bike, the Roadini has another 30 years of Grant's experience built into 
> it despite the modest TIG welds.  I would also consider the Homer, if you 
> don't mind giving up a little bit of speed for a whole lot of luxury.  
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[RBW] Re: FS: Swift Industires Polaris Porteur Bag

[Jim S.]

bump - price drop - $140 shipped.

On Monday, July 13, 2020 at 3:02:30 PM UTC-5 Jim S. wrote:

> This bag can be used in lieu of a basket and a bag, although I think you 
> want a platform larger than a Mark's rack. 
>
> Condition is almost new. I don't believe I've ever used it. 
>
> Here's a link to photos:
>
> https://photos.app.goo.gl/EecGi4Pb16GQYa379
>
> Here's a detailed review from the Lovely-Bicycle lady:
>
>
> http://lovelybike.blogspot.com/2013/01/a-look-at-swift-polaris-porteur-bag.html
>
> Price is $150 shipped.
>
>
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Re: [RBW] Cantilever brake recommendations

[Joel Stern]

Yeah, I’m not going to spend that kind of money, will look at affordable
good quality as you state.

On Fri, Jul 17, 2020 at 1:00 AM Philip Williamson <
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> I like CX50s for clarity of setup. They work well, and they look okay.
> They are pretty cheap, compared to those Suntour XCs. Once you’re talking
> $180 brake sets, you may as well pay $260 for Paul Minimotos. Easy setup,
> extremely awesome stopping power, and no brake judder.
>
> Philip
> Santa Rosa,CA
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Re: [RBW] Re: Charlie H Gallop!

[scott minor]

Ah, I hope that’s the case.  I’m increasingly attracted to the Gallup and very 
curious about its development moving forward.  As for the complete-only bikes, 
yes I recall now that those are to be Nobilette built bikes offered as 
completes, not the Gallup.  Thanks for chiming in and helping clear that up.

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Re: [RBW] Re: Charlie H Gallop!

[Mark Roland]

My understanding is that it will be offered both complete and as a 
frameset, with the frameset being more available than recent Clem 
framesets, which lately have only been offered in limited quantities after 
all the completes ship out. Not sure if that was a phone conversation with 
Rivendell, or a Blahg, or a newsletter. Or Just My Magination. 

On Thursday, July 16, 2020 at 8:44:10 PM UTC-4, scott minor wrote:
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> Is this the bike Grant wrote about a while back that will be offered as 
> complete-only?  

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[RBW] Cantilever brake recommendations

[Max S]

On the eBay, even the old Alivio / STX / LX low profile cantis work great and 
can be had cheap cheap cheap. With the right set of tools and instructions 
(e.g. an Allen key, a 10mm box wrench, a rubber band for toe-in, and maybe a 
3-rd hand tool), set up can be systematic and trouble-free. Using the “cross” 
pads in posted holders means you can simply slide new pads in as they wear. 

Of the newer choices, Tektro 720 are fine, Shimano CX-50 are good, too. TRP or 
Avid Ultimate Shorty have their followers and are not quite as pricey as Paul. 

I do like the direct wiring and super simple set up of V / mini-V brakes more 
than all this extra stuff of cable stops and straddle wires, but choice of 
suitable drop bar brake levers can be quite limited. 

- Max “they all work, might as well try and see what you like” in A2 

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[RBW] PSA: 58 QB SF CL

[Philip Williamson]

I just love cryptic acronyms.

Not mine, no relation, and I think it’s priced too high for the parts kit. Good 
condition, though. Looks smaller than a 58, and has a 5sp IGH wheel. 
https://sfbay.craigslist.org/eby/bik/d/pinole-rivendell-quickbeam-58/7159184472.html

Philip
Santa Rosa, CA

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