[RBW] Re: WTB 54.5 Homer

[Roberta]

It’s a great bike. I got mine as a second bike for my office rides but it 
is now my favorite.  Light (ish) and sprightly. 

Roberta

On Tuesday, December 22, 2020 at 12:40:47 PM UTC-5 Robert Blunt wrote:

> Greetings everyone,
> I am looking for a 54.5 Homer frame if anyone is looking to move one. I 
> don't care about the color. A Sam would also do but I would prefer a Homer.
> --Robert Blunt
> Pennington, NJ
>

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[RBW] Re: Is there a Riv-like three speed currently in production?

[Roberta]

I have a 16 speed She Devil for my in town lock up, 38 mm marathon ( 
supremes I believe) tires with sks fenders. It’s a quality bike at a decent 
price. I did change the front flat stem to one with a rise.  I had looked ( 
in person) at the other brands and she Devil seemed more sophisticated and 
polished.  A few pounds lighter too. Great customer service. 

I got mine in 2017 and if I had found this before finding Rivendell, I 
would probably not be a Riv owner today. 

Roberta 
On Tuesday, December 22, 2020 at 12:29:40 PM UTC-5 Linda G wrote:

> I'm curious about the quality of the Handsome Cycles frames: welds, paint, 
> amount of prep needed. I'm sure it's not up to Rivendell standards, maybe 
> more like a Soma? I really like my Roadini and am in the market for a 
> mixte. The Platypus checks most of my boxes but I want an in-town bike. I 
> just don't need 50 mm tires and a wheelbase that looks like it will be 7" 
> longer than my Roadini. It's more weight to lift around and more length to 
> fit into small spaces. I'm tempted by the Handsome She-Devil.
> Linda
>
> On Tuesday, December 22, 2020 at 5:48:27 AM UTC-8 Tom Wyland wrote:
>
>> Handsome Cycles if you prefer drops:  
>> https://handsomecycles.com/products/limited-fredward-road-3-classic-black-tan
>>
>> Take a look at the Devil geometry on Bike Insights.  I have one and it's 
>> very Sam-like.  Maybe even a little more stretched out.
>>
>> Tom
>>
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: ROADUNO - a new singlespeed!

[Bill Lindsay]

That's dynamite news for you long-leggers!  Start planning your builds!  

If anybody wants to go uber-traditional I have a NIB Dura Ace Track hub, 32 
hole, for $90.  If you want to go strictly fixed, there may be no classier 
hub.

Bill Lindsay
El Cerrito, CA

On Tuesday, December 22, 2020 at 6:56:35 PM UTC-8 Kainalu V. -Brooklyn NY 
wrote:

> Bad news.
> I asked and they said they were cancelling all but the smallest of the 
> singlespeeds because of my incessant badgering. Sorry 61ers, Sorry 57ers. 
> Sorry 59ers, Sorry 57.75ers. No singlespeeds for anybody over 5'4"...
> -Kai 
>
>
>
> JUST KIDDING!!  There's already a 64 planned, and with a 6% sloping 
> toptube it'll be a beast for most anybody.
> Yay!!  
>
>
> On Tuesday, December 15, 2020 at 5:05:42 PM UTC-5 Bill Lindsay wrote:
>
>> If you ~100cm PBH folks are serious, I bet you could make it happen.  We 
>> all know Grant knows how to design a 65cm Roaduno.  I'd say the chances are 
>> decent that he already has it.  The only reason Rivendell Bicycle Works 
>> doesn't go 'one size larger' or 'one size smaller' is they don't have the 
>> cash or space to tie up in the inventory.  If you ~100cm PBH folks want to 
>> self-assemble and make it happen, you could definitely make it happen with 
>> dollars.  You'd want to find one really nice and really informed individual 
>> to volunteer to be your spokesperson.  Have that very nice and very 
>> informed person talk with Will, and plan on your group of buyers being 
>> prepared to prepay to the tune of ~$10,000 of Rivendell Gift Certificates.  
>> If your group of tall folks could present Riv with that one nice and smart 
>> spokesperson and $10k of cashflow, then I'd bet your chances would be good 
>> that you could get that 65cm Roaduno to happen.  Prepaying for bikes is a 
>> business model that is keeping Rivendell going.  It's something they are 
>> comfortable with doing, so if you can leverage that to your benefit, it's a 
>> win-win.
>>
>> Bill Lindsay
>> El Cerrito, CA
>>
>> On Tuesday, December 15, 2020 at 7:25:08 AM UTC-8 psc...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> +1, Make that four of us pulling for a larger size.  
>>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: ROADUNO - a new singlespeed!

[Kainalu V. -Brooklyn NY]

Bad news.
I asked and they said they were cancelling all but the smallest of the 
singlespeeds because of my incessant badgering. Sorry 61ers, Sorry 57ers. 
Sorry 59ers, Sorry 57.75ers. No singlespeeds for anybody over 5'4"...
-Kai 



JUST KIDDING!!  There's already a 64 planned, and with a 6% sloping toptube 
it'll be a beast for most anybody.
Yay!!  


On Tuesday, December 15, 2020 at 5:05:42 PM UTC-5 Bill Lindsay wrote:

> If you ~100cm PBH folks are serious, I bet you could make it happen.  We 
> all know Grant knows how to design a 65cm Roaduno.  I'd say the chances are 
> decent that he already has it.  The only reason Rivendell Bicycle Works 
> doesn't go 'one size larger' or 'one size smaller' is they don't have the 
> cash or space to tie up in the inventory.  If you ~100cm PBH folks want to 
> self-assemble and make it happen, you could definitely make it happen with 
> dollars.  You'd want to find one really nice and really informed individual 
> to volunteer to be your spokesperson.  Have that very nice and very 
> informed person talk with Will, and plan on your group of buyers being 
> prepared to prepay to the tune of ~$10,000 of Rivendell Gift Certificates.  
> If your group of tall folks could present Riv with that one nice and smart 
> spokesperson and $10k of cashflow, then I'd bet your chances would be good 
> that you could get that 65cm Roaduno to happen.  Prepaying for bikes is a 
> business model that is keeping Rivendell going.  It's something they are 
> comfortable with doing, so if you can leverage that to your benefit, it's a 
> win-win.
>
> Bill Lindsay
> El Cerrito, CA
>
> On Tuesday, December 15, 2020 at 7:25:08 AM UTC-8 psc...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> +1, Make that four of us pulling for a larger size.  
>>
>>

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Re: [RBW] Re: Is there a Riv-like three speed currently in production?

[Joe Bernard]

I presume you mean a cassette broken down into 3 cogs. I've never seen it 
done, presumably because nobody is going to keep a rear derailer and 
cassette but make the cassette less useful. But if that's your thing, party 
on! 


On Tuesday, December 22, 2020 at 5:43:35 PM UTC-8 Patrick Moore wrote:

> Rear derailleur. 1 mechanism and 3 small cogs intead of 2 mechs and 3 big 
> cogs.
>
> On Tue, Dec 22, 2020 at 1:41 PM Joe Bernard  wrote:
>
>> Patrick, how would you get 3 shiftable cogs on the back? What I did with 
>> my Cheviot was put a singleator kit on the rear and kept two rings up 
>> front, I can't picture how your reversed idea would work.*
>>
>> *Of course I also can't picture pulling, say, a 9-speed cassette to 
>> replace with 3, but that's another topic 
>>
>> On Tuesday, December 22, 2020 at 8:11:45 AM UTC-8 Patrick Moore wrote:
>>
>>> Jack: Curious why 3 chainrings instead of 3 cogs in back? Three cogs 
>>> would be lighter and I daresay shift better ...?
>>>
>>> On Tue, Dec 22, 2020 at 6:50 AM J Schwartz  wrote:
>>>
 It's possible 
 here's my 3-speed Clem L
 44/34/24 up front and a 20t cog in the back 

 On Tuesday, December 22, 2020 at 8:05:48 AM UTC-5 Dave S wrote:

> https://handsomecycles.com/products/fredward-3s
>
>
>
> On Monday, December 21, 2020 at 5:42:43 PM UTC-5 brettjc...@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>
>> A few years back I briefly had a three-speed Public done up in 
>> Rivendellian style, with a thumb shifter, albatross bars with shellacked 
>> tape, a nice silver porteur rack, etc. It was, as a bike shaped object, 
>> fine. It was not a Rivendell and I sold it a short time later to buy a 
>> Clem. 
>>
>> I find myself missing having a three speed in the stable. I've long 
>> entertained thoughts of buying a Quickbeam, if one would ever come up 
>> for 
>> sale in my tall guy size, and adding a three speed hub. The same might 
>> be 
>> possible with the new Roaduno and I'll be keeping my eye on 
>> developments. 
>>
>> I wonder, though, if there's a nice purpose built three speed out 
>> there I should be aware of but have missed. Any thoughts? 
>>
>> If anyone here has put together a three speed Riv, I'd love to see 
>> photos or read insights? 
>>
>> Brett in PDX. 
>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Is there a Riv-like three speed currently in production?

[Patrick Moore]

Rear derailleur. 1 mechanism and 3 small cogs intead of 2 mechs and 3 big
cogs.

On Tue, Dec 22, 2020 at 1:41 PM Joe Bernard  wrote:

> Patrick, how would you get 3 shiftable cogs on the back? What I did with
> my Cheviot was put a singleator kit on the rear and kept two rings up
> front, I can't picture how your reversed idea would work.*
>
> *Of course I also can't picture pulling, say, a 9-speed cassette to
> replace with 3, but that's another topic 
>
> On Tuesday, December 22, 2020 at 8:11:45 AM UTC-8 Patrick Moore wrote:
>
>> Jack: Curious why 3 chainrings instead of 3 cogs in back? Three cogs
>> would be lighter and I daresay shift better ...?
>>
>> On Tue, Dec 22, 2020 at 6:50 AM J Schwartz  wrote:
>>
>>> It's possible
>>> here's my 3-speed Clem L
>>> 44/34/24 up front and a 20t cog in the back
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, December 22, 2020 at 8:05:48 AM UTC-5 Dave S wrote:
>>>
 https://handsomecycles.com/products/fredward-3s



 On Monday, December 21, 2020 at 5:42:43 PM UTC-5 brettjc...@gmail.com
 wrote:

> A few years back I briefly had a three-speed Public done up in
> Rivendellian style, with a thumb shifter, albatross bars with shellacked
> tape, a nice silver porteur rack, etc. It was, as a bike shaped object,
> fine. It was not a Rivendell and I sold it a short time later to buy a
> Clem.
>
> I find myself missing having a three speed in the stable. I've long
> entertained thoughts of buying a Quickbeam, if one would ever come up for
> sale in my tall guy size, and adding a three speed hub. The same might be
> possible with the new Roaduno and I'll be keeping my eye on developments.
>
> I wonder, though, if there's a nice purpose built three speed out
> there I should be aware of but have missed. Any thoughts?
>
> If anyone here has put together a three speed Riv, I'd love to see
> photos or read insights?
>
> Brett in PDX.
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Re: [RBW] handlebar snack/Nalgene/Hydro bags

[luckyturnip]

Thanks everyone for the recommendations! I went with Cycle Cats in Sacramento 
and couldn’t be happier! He is on IG at @cycle.cats or www.cyclecatsdesign.com. 
He has stock stuff and make custom bags too. The quality seems top notch! I got 
a snack bag and burrito bag in waxed canvas green and tan that beautifully 
complements the green MB-4. 

> On Dec 22, 2020, at 08:49, Grandy  wrote:
> 
> https://www.carsickdesigns.com/
> Brian and Monica, located just south of Chico, CA, will customize any of 
> their existing line of bags for you. 
> Some of their bags are usually on display at The Bicycle Business in 
> Sacramento.
> 
>> On Friday, December 18, 2020 at 3:51:13 PM UTC-8 joshm...@gmail.com wrote:
>> The Fifth Season stuff over at analog is very nice. 
>> 
>>> On Fri, Dec 18, 2020, 4:06 PM Lucky  wrote:
>>> Yes, thanks, I wasn't going to list all the ones I have looked at, but I 
>>> have looked at RandiJo. I was sort of looking for just hobby crafter types, 
>>> maybe. I'm spoiled by my Greg bags for sure. It was fun picking the crazy 
>>> fabrics and having the freedom to sort of design it. This go round I want 
>>> to add a pocket to the bag and that's probably not something one of the...I 
>>> hate to say "larger" because they're mostly not...but a place that's not 
>>> doing one bag at a time would do. 
>>> 
 On Friday, December 18, 2020 at 1:02:33 PM UTC-8 Jay Lonner wrote:
 Is https://www.randijofab.com on your radar at all? Her stock items are 
 nice, and she may be open to custom bag orders as well. I recently ordered 
 a cap in a custom configuration and it wasn’t a hassle at all. 
 
 Jay Lonner
 Bellingham, WA
 
 Sent from my Atari 400
 
>> On Dec 18, 2020, at 12:52 PM, Lucky  wrote:
>> 
> Hey all,
 
> 
> I found a guy who makes handlebar snack bags (amongst many other bike 
> bags) and I love the ones I got from him very much (he is @greg.newland 
> on Instagram) but he's currently not taking custom orders. 
> 
> I know there are a lot of commercially made bags online but I'm looking 
> for something interesting and fun, crazy fabrics and so on that I can't 
> seem to find "off the shelf". 
> 
> Anyone want to recommend an individual who is taking commissions right 
> now or who maybe isn't one of the big name places that I've already seen? 
> 
> By "snack bag" I mean those tube shaped stem bags that can hold a large 
> bottle or a mess of snacks, or whatever, typically with a drawstring. 
> 
> Again, looking for individuals here more than companies (Chrome, etc)
 
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Re: [RBW] Re: Hi & Questions...

[greenteadrinkers]

Welcome, Phillip!
I can't speak to a Joe or AHH, I'm sure both would be great choices, but 
for me, the Sam has been a blast to ride on just about everything except 
hiking trails. A big difference between the Sam and the AHH is canti-posts. 
Maybe explore the various Rivendell builds at Radavist.com, plenty of 
excellent examples.
Scott
On Sunday, December 20, 2020 at 9:55:40 PM UTC-5 Nathan Mattia wrote:

> Greetings, Phillip!
> Your lone picture turns me green with envy.  I s want to visit my 
> Mother Land on my Mother’s side, and hopefully ride there too.
>
> I would have to agree with Ed and say that a Sam Hillborne is just the 
> thing.  I have a 51cm with 650b Fatty Rumpkin tires and it’s a fantastic 
> ride.
> Here’s a build post about my Samwise Hillborne from my blog 
> 
>
> If you want footage of someone taking a Sam on rougher terrain, check out 
> these vids from PathLessPedaled
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TRUo74yqz6w
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ii0I6PY0cvo
> And this one’s even about what bars make more sense on the Sam:
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r-yyNxJcF5M
>
> Cheers, and I sincerely hope to see you on the trails one day!
> On Sunday, December 20, 2020 at 9:18:56 AM UTC-6 philipr...@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>
>> Thanks all, I'm certainly very comfortable on a drop bar bike albeit I 
>> spend about 90% of the time on the hoods. Many years & pounds ago I used to 
>> indulge in a little road racing & currently both my bikes are really set up 
>> too low (pure road machine is a CIOCC) for my aging body and part of this 
>> build will be to get everything more on the level as it were. Grant's "Just 
>> Ride" has been very helpful in this.
>>
>> I've been guilty too of ignoring market segments, no one told me at 12 
>> years old that I couldn't ride my hand me down, "girl's frame" bike in the 
>> dirt & when the forks collapsed I took the legs from an old lawn lounger, 
>> beat the ends flat & drilled & clamped them to the axle & stem! Point 
>> being, that the industry has done a great job of convincing people that 
>> it's well nigh impossible to ride X terrain if you don't have Y gear. Once 
>> again, Grant & I see eye to eye on this one, hence my reason for being 
>> here. The way I see it, some people buy equipment to ride & some people 
>> ride so they can buy equipment! Both are perfectly OK but it seems like 
>> most here are of the former group.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sunday, December 20, 2020 at 5:09:54 AM UTC-6 ascpgh wrote:
>>
>>> Phillip, welcome to the group. I love to hear and see what others ride 
>>> in their locations, you've certainly got a new perspective for us from 
>>> Scotland. The climate well responsible for my trusty Hilltrek anorak, my 
>>> grail late fall, winter and early spring shell. Your work and locations 
>>> remind me of an old movie, Local Hero, starring Peter Riegert, Burt 
>>> Lancaster and a Mark Knopfler soundtrack.
>>>
>>> Your mention of the Kona Sutra ULTD makes a nice point which is that a 
>>> drop bar bike can really go deeper into the woods and wilds than imagined. 
>>> A short stem is a part of it as long as the rest of the geometry and fit 
>>> allows that bar position to be natural. Riding on the hoods if fit such as 
>>> that bears a very similar arm position benefit to riding a flat bar with 
>>> bar end grips. Back in the day my MTB trail riding and climbing in the 
>>> Ozarks was improved by the 90° outward rotation of my gripping hands using 
>>> those. Hoods on drop bars produce that relaxes my arm muscles (from 
>>> pronation toward supination), reducing the angle of my elbow (flexion) and 
>>> madeit easier to get back over the rear wheel. 
>>>
>>> I was always an underbiker, riding my RB-1 on fire roads and smooth 
>>> paths, my XO-2 on the trails and my Rivendell Rambouillet across the 
>>> country.The old skills remain in muscle memory and I continue to ride bikes 
>>> a bit beyond their market segment intention!
>>> [image: 8DDD96C2-D7D2-4805-81DE-5DF826EE136B_1_105_c.jpeg]
>>> Andy Cheatham
>>> Pittsburgh
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, December 15, 2020 at 12:30:37 PM UTC-5 philipr...@gmail.com 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Actually I've ridden Big Bend & across the border into Baja & Nuevo 
 Leon many times! Mostly on dirt motorcycles but also some MTB stuff, I 
 love 
 the desert too. I live full time on Dallas (my job is US based) & we're 
 commuting back & forward (well pre-COVID that was the plan at least) as we 
 build a house on Skye. Provided you can stand wind & rain, there's 
 tremendous riding in the Highlands & Islands all within easy reach, the 
 roads get busy with RVs & buses in the summer but the rest of the time 
 it's 
 you & the wee ewes. Look on YouTube for cycling the Northwest 500, the 
 Hebridean Way (a short ferry ride from us) or the West Highland Way, 
 guarantee you'll be packing 

[RBW] Re: Blue Hillborne pics?

[greenteadrinkers]

@Erik - what size Thunder Burts? Nice build!  -Scott

On Tuesday, December 22, 2020 at 2:26:34 PM UTC-5 Erik Wright wrote:

> On Tuesday, December 22, 2020 at 1:01:28 PM UTC-5 aeroperf wrote:
>
>> [image: Sam_2019s.jpg]
>>
>> On Tuesday, December 22, 2020 at 12:00:28 PM UTC-5 lconley wrote:
>>
>>> [image: SingleSpeedSam50.jpg]
>>>
>>>
>>> Laing
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, December 22, 2020 at 11:49:33 AM UTC-5 zac.te...@gmail.com 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Anyone want to share their blue Sam pics? I just got a blue frame and 
 I'm looking for some inspiration!
>>>
>>>

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Re: [RBW] Re: Is there a Riv-like three speed currently in production?

[Joe Bernard]

Patrick, how would you get 3 shiftable cogs on the back? What I did with my 
Cheviot was put a singleator kit on the rear and kept two rings up front, I 
can't picture how your reversed idea would work.*

*Of course I also can't picture pulling, say, a 9-speed cassette to replace 
with 3, but that's another topic 

On Tuesday, December 22, 2020 at 8:11:45 AM UTC-8 Patrick Moore wrote:

> Jack: Curious why 3 chainrings instead of 3 cogs in back? Three cogs would 
> be lighter and I daresay shift better ...?
>
> On Tue, Dec 22, 2020 at 6:50 AM J Schwartz  wrote:
>
>> It's possible 
>> here's my 3-speed Clem L
>> 44/34/24 up front and a 20t cog in the back 
>>
>> On Tuesday, December 22, 2020 at 8:05:48 AM UTC-5 Dave S wrote:
>>
>>> https://handsomecycles.com/products/fredward-3s
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Monday, December 21, 2020 at 5:42:43 PM UTC-5 brettjc...@gmail.com 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 A few years back I briefly had a three-speed Public done up in 
 Rivendellian style, with a thumb shifter, albatross bars with shellacked 
 tape, a nice silver porteur rack, etc. It was, as a bike shaped object, 
 fine. It was not a Rivendell and I sold it a short time later to buy a 
 Clem. 

 I find myself missing having a three speed in the stable. I've long 
 entertained thoughts of buying a Quickbeam, if one would ever come up for 
 sale in my tall guy size, and adding a three speed hub. The same might be 
 possible with the new Roaduno and I'll be keeping my eye on developments. 

 I wonder, though, if there's a nice purpose built three speed out there 
 I should be aware of but have missed. Any thoughts? 

 If anyone here has put together a three speed Riv, I'd love to see 
 photos or read insights? 

 Brett in PDX. 

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Re: [RBW] Re: Is there a Riv-like three speed currently in production?

[Brett Callahan]

Thanks everyone, there are some great ideas in this thread. The Brooklyn 
bikes and Handsome cycles seem like a step up in quality (from afar, 
anyway) from my old Linus, but are really reasonable. The Pashley certainly 
seems, as noted, like the most Rivendell equivalent of the bunch, short of 
a clever adaptation of an existing Riv like Jason's Clem and John G's 
Quickbeam. Or I could take a machine gun to the budget and go full custom 
like Patrick. Or, or, I could look vintage, which has the advantage of 
really keeping me busy, and the disadvantage of older standards that I'm 
not as comfortable working on. So many decisions!

Shawn, if I show up to a three speed event on a five speed, am I instantly 
persona non grata? (I've been exploring the Sturmey catalogue). 

John G, could you say a bit more about the non rotation chain tugs? I think 
the only other 3 speeded quickbeam I've seen did not use those. Were they 
designed to prevent twisting of the hub inside the dropout? 

Again, thank you all!

Brett

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Re: [RBW] Re: Is there a Riv-like three speed currently in production?

[Shawn Granton]

Hey Brett-

Glad to see that you are interested in re-introducing a three speed to the 
stable! There have been some good suggestions so far. Most of the obvious 
ground has been tread. 

There are plenty of more budget modern options like the Linus and the 
Public you had. But if you weren't plussed by the Public, I don't think any 
of those options will make you happy.

Or, you can go with Pashley. They are a well-respected UK company still 
making bikes in a traditional style, including lugs. Plus, the Guv'nor has 
a cult-like following, similar to Rivendell. Though they don't have a Grant 
Petersen equivalent. ;-) In any case, this would probably be the closest 
thing to a "Rivlike three speed currently in production."

Another route is go vintage and modify. If you want to do the whole trad 
three-speed experience, find a taller framed Raleigh Sports or equivalent 
(23" frame), rebuild the wheels with alloy Sun CR18 rims, throw on some 
modern Tektro brakes, and build the bike up the way you want. Or, find a 
nice sport-touring frame from the '70s and '80s and build up a wheel with a 
Sturmey-Archer AW hub or the like. The frame would be lighter/"sportier" 
than the Sports frame.

Best,
Shawn in PDX
aka El Presidente, Society of Three Speeds

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Re: [RBW] Re: Is there a Riv-like three speed currently in production?

[John G]

Here's hoping the Roaduno would work.  I love having the QB running the 
three speed.  I found a 120 spaced AW hub and a friend helped me make some 
non-rotation tugs.

https://flic.kr/p/2jURZfQ

https://flic.kr/p/cScyTj



On Tuesday, December 22, 2020 at 1:09:29 PM UTC-5 Tom Wyland wrote:

> Linda,
>
> I took some quick photos 
> of
>  
> my semi-clean bike's welds.  It's a 2014 Devil.  The powder coat is tough 
> and there was frame saver already applied when I got my complete 8-speed 
> back then. I've changed out many of the parts with the exception of the 
> bottom bracket, headset, crankset and derailleur.  I can fit bike tires 
> (38mm with fenders and 47 without on the diamond frame), but it lacks a 
> kickstand plate.  The fork has mid-fork mounts but lacks a second set of 
> eyelets at the front dropouts.  The tubing is (double-butted 4120) 
> somewhere between a touring bike and something like a surly cross check.  
> So on the heavy side of "light touring."
> I'll add the Jesse at Handsome is pretty quick to answer emails with 
> questions.  
>
>
> https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1w8-_zHLdoH7qtsU25oNcMCUDavuQEEoc?usp=sharing
>
> Tom
>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Is there a Riv-like three speed currently in production?

[Tom Wyland]

Linda,

I took some quick photos 
of
 
my semi-clean bike's welds.  It's a 2014 Devil.  The powder coat is tough 
and there was frame saver already applied when I got my complete 8-speed 
back then. I've changed out many of the parts with the exception of the 
bottom bracket, headset, crankset and derailleur.  I can fit bike tires 
(38mm with fenders and 47 without on the diamond frame), but it lacks a 
kickstand plate.  The fork has mid-fork mounts but lacks a second set of 
eyelets at the front dropouts.  The tubing is (double-butted 4120) 
somewhere between a touring bike and something like a surly cross check.  
So on the heavy side of "light touring."
I'll add the Jesse at Handsome is pretty quick to answer emails with 
questions.  

https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1w8-_zHLdoH7qtsU25oNcMCUDavuQEEoc?usp=sharing

Tom

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[RBW] Re: Is there a Riv-like three speed currently in production?

[lconley]

Pashley makes several lugged steel 3 speed bikes including the Guv'nor.

Laing

On Monday, December 21, 2020 at 5:42:43 PM UTC-5 brettjc...@gmail.com wrote:

> A few years back I briefly had a three-speed Public done up in 
> Rivendellian style, with a thumb shifter, albatross bars with shellacked 
> tape, a nice silver porteur rack, etc. It was, as a bike shaped object, 
> fine. It was not a Rivendell and I sold it a short time later to buy a 
> Clem. 
>
> I find myself missing having a three speed in the stable. I've long 
> entertained thoughts of buying a Quickbeam, if one would ever come up for 
> sale in my tall guy size, and adding a three speed hub. The same might be 
> possible with the new Roaduno and I'll be keeping my eye on developments. 
>
> I wonder, though, if there's a nice purpose built three speed out there I 
> should be aware of but have missed. Any thoughts? 
>
> If anyone here has put together a three speed Riv, I'd love to see photos 
> or read insights? 
>
> Brett in PDX. 
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Re: [RBW] Re: Is there a Riv-like three speed currently in production?

[Patrick Moore]

I meant to add that the Handsome bikes are particularly interesting

On Tue, Dec 22, 2020 at 10:43 AM Patrick Moore  wrote:

> I'm surprised that there are so many at least halfway decent 3 speed road
> and city type bikes on the market; I thought 3 speeds were largely cheap,
> $350 imports from China (though even these look good for the money).
>
> Those of you who own road bike-type 3 speeds (I mean set up to ride a bit
> faster than an omafiets or DL-1) gear your drivetrains? Back when I used
> AWs, I always installed bigger cogs to make overdrive the cruising gear at
> about 70", and therefore making direct and underdrive climbing gears at
> about 53"and 40".
>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Is there a Riv-like three speed currently in production?

[Patrick Moore]

I'm surprised that there are so many at least halfway decent 3 speed road
and city type bikes on the market; I thought 3 speeds were largely cheap,
$350 imports from China (though even these look good for the money).

Those of you who own road bike-type 3 speeds (I mean set up to ride a bit
faster than an omafiets or DL-1) gear your drivetrains? Back when I used
AWs, I always installed bigger cogs to make overdrive the cruising gear at
about 70", and therefore making direct and underdrive climbing gears at
about 53"and 40".

---
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Alburquerque, Nuevo Mexico, Etats Unis d'Amerique, Orbis Terrarum

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[RBW] WTB 54.5 Homer

[Robert Blunt]

Greetings everyone,
I am looking for a 54.5 Homer frame if anyone is looking to move one. I
don't care about the color. A Sam would also do but I would prefer a Homer.
--Robert Blunt
Pennington, NJ

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[RBW] Re: Is there a Riv-like three speed currently in production?

[Linda G]

I'm curious about the quality of the Handsome Cycles frames: welds, paint, 
amount of prep needed. I'm sure it's not up to Rivendell standards, maybe 
more like a Soma? I really like my Roadini and am in the market for a 
mixte. The Platypus checks most of my boxes but I want an in-town bike. I 
just don't need 50 mm tires and a wheelbase that looks like it will be 7" 
longer than my Roadini. It's more weight to lift around and more length to 
fit into small spaces. I'm tempted by the Handsome She-Devil.
Linda

On Tuesday, December 22, 2020 at 5:48:27 AM UTC-8 Tom Wyland wrote:

> Handsome Cycles if you prefer drops:  
> https://handsomecycles.com/products/limited-fredward-road-3-classic-black-tan
>
> Take a look at the Devil geometry on Bike Insights.  I have one and it's 
> very Sam-like.  Maybe even a little more stretched out.
>
> Tom
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[RBW] Re: Clem Smith Jr. H 59cm For Sale!!!

[Alex K]

As a fellow Clem fiend, I can definitely say that at least $3287 went into 
this bike.  I paid $925 (including tax) for my H from Silva Cycles in San 
Jose, then about $2500 (including tax) building it up (Dyno hubs, nice 
tires, etc.).   One of the reasons I feel justified in buying Rivs is that 
I like to support the company and the bike industry as a whole, and also 
with the knowledge that any hasty purchase I might make can be filtered 
back (at a minimal financial loss) to some other lucky soul who might be 
looking for exactly what wasn't the perfect bike for me.  So I'd say be 
patient, stick to your guns, and somebody else will REALLY want that Clem H 
someday.  LOVE those sloped seatstays!


On Tuesday, December 22, 2020 at 8:49:38 AM UTC-8 Jordan Dean wrote:

> $3286.23 was the total cost of parts and labor when the bike was "brand 
> new" before I started riding it daily.  Labor in total to shop for 
> reference was $590 (frame set build up, custom wheel build, nipples, 
> spokes, rim tape).  Buyers can make their own calculated presumption as to 
> how much depreciation has occurred since then since it is now "used like 
> new".  Too many people online think this is only a $2000 bike build at best 
> which I promise you it is not. I am thinking of changing the Craigslist add 
> to OBO to see what happens in terms of offers.  Not really crazy about 
> letting this one go but need to recoup some funds for the next planned 
> build...so up for sale it goes!  Thanks for the time.  I am new to Google 
> Groups and have no idea what I am doing so bear with me.

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[RBW] Re: Blue Hillborne pics?

[lconley]

[image: SingleSpeedSam50.jpg]


Laing

On Tuesday, December 22, 2020 at 11:49:33 AM UTC-5 zac.te...@gmail.com 
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> Anyone want to share their blue Sam pics? I just got a blue frame and I'm 
> looking for some inspiration!

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[RBW] Blue Hillborne pics?

[Zac Terrones]

Anyone want to share their blue Sam pics? I just got a blue frame and I'm 
looking for some inspiration!

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[RBW] Re: Rivendell Clem Smith Jr. H 59cm

[Jordan Dean]

Yes, it is for sale.  Not sure if my last large message posted but I am new 
to Google Groups and still learning how this forum works.

On Saturday, December 19, 2020 at 11:45:54 AM UTC-8 Joe Bernard wrote:

> For sale and appreciating daily! 
>
>
>
> On Saturday, December 19, 2020 at 5:31:42 AM UTC-8 i wrote:
>
>> It looks nice! For sale?
>>
>> https://sfbay.craigslist.org/nby/bik/d/petaluma-rivendell-clem-smith-jr-59cm/7247895131.html
>> On Saturday, December 19, 2020 at 7:47:54 AM UTC-5 EricP wrote:
>>
>>> Very nice build. This kind of build reminds me of why Grant, et.al, 
>>> look at the Clem as the modern version of the old Stumpjumpers and other 
>>> early west coast style mountain bikes with the long chainstays. 
>>>
>>> Eric Platt
>>> St. Paul, MN
>>>
>>> On Friday, December 18, 2020 at 4:49:53 PM UTC-6 Jordan Dean wrote:
>>>
 [image: LapRoeQVSVWHA9Pgb3PWiA.jpg]

>>>

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[RBW] WTB: 110mm BCD chainring

[Lenny]

For a Sugino crankset to be used in a singlespeed conversion.

New or used chainring
46T, 47T, 48T
Silver

Thanks,
Lenny
Boston, MA

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Re: [RBW] handlebar snack/Nalgene/Hydro bags

[Grandy]

https://www.carsickdesigns.com/
Brian and Monica, located just south of Chico, CA, will customize any of 
their existing line of bags for you. 
Some of their bags are usually on display at The Bicycle Business in 
Sacramento.

On Friday, December 18, 2020 at 3:51:13 PM UTC-8 joshm...@gmail.com wrote:

> The Fifth Season stuff over at analog is very nice. 
>
> On Fri, Dec 18, 2020, 4:06 PM Lucky  wrote:
>
>> Yes, thanks, I wasn't going to list all the ones I have looked at, but I 
>> have looked at RandiJo. I was sort of looking for just hobby crafter types, 
>> maybe. I'm spoiled by my Greg bags for sure. It was fun picking the crazy 
>> fabrics and having the freedom to sort of design it. This go round I want 
>> to add a pocket to the bag and that's probably not something one of the...I 
>> hate to say "larger" because they're mostly not...but a place that's not 
>> doing one bag at a time would do. 
>>
>> On Friday, December 18, 2020 at 1:02:33 PM UTC-8 Jay Lonner wrote:
>>
>>> Is https://www.randijofab.com on your radar at all? Her stock items are 
>>> nice, and she may be open to custom bag orders as well. I recently ordered 
>>> a cap in a custom configuration and it wasn’t a hassle at all. 
>>>
>>> Jay Lonner
>>> Bellingham, WA
>>>
>>> Sent from my Atari 400
>>>
>>> On Dec 18, 2020, at 12:52 PM, Lucky  wrote:
>>>
>>> Hey all,
>>>
>>>
>>> I found a guy who makes handlebar snack bags (amongst many other bike 
>>> bags) and I love the ones I got from him very much (he is @greg.newland on 
>>> Instagram) but he's currently not taking custom orders. 
>>>
>>> I know there are a lot of commercially made bags online but I'm looking 
>>> for something interesting and fun, crazy fabrics and so on that I can't 
>>> seem to find "off the shelf". 
>>>
>>> Anyone want to recommend an individual who is taking commissions right 
>>> now or who maybe isn't one of the big name places that I've already seen? 
>>>
>>> By "snack bag" I mean those tube shaped stem bags that can hold a large 
>>> bottle or a mess of snacks, or whatever, typically with a drawstring. 
>>>
>>> Again, looking for individuals here more than companies (Chrome, etc)
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[RBW] Re: Clem H 52 gone in record time. Who is the lucky winner?

[Brent B]

That was me! I saw the email and snapped into action immediately, I think I 
checked out in less than 60 seconds. I just missed a green Clem H that a 
list member was selling a while back, and almost bought a Clem L in the 
meantime so I was 100% ready to pull the trigger. Third time's the charm!

This will be Riv #2 (#1 is a long-chainstay Atlantis). It's also the 
perfect excuse for me to pass on my canti brake All City Space Horse to a 
friend who's ready to upgrade his ride.

Best of luck finding the next Riv!
-Brent

On Friday, 18 December 2020 at 19:39:44 UTC-5 ack...@gmail.com wrote:

> Well, that was quick!  Got an email that there was one final Clem H 52cm 
> available at 310pm and it was gone by 319pm.  I was considering buying for 
> a friend who is looking for that exact bike.  Not only was it marked down 
> from $900 to $800, but there was a $100 credit if purchased before 12/31.  
> Somebody out there is real stoked and with good reason.  I think it had the 
> sloped seatstays, too.   Sheesh, this collecting Rivs is feeling eerily 
> like collecting baseball cards 25 years ago.  When do you know you don't 
> need anymore precious steel bicycles?

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[RBW] Re: Rivendell Clem Smith Jr. H 59cm

[Jordan Dean]

Yes, I am currently selling it.  $3286.23 is the actual amount of money the 
"brand new" complete built bike was worth/cost me before I started riding 
it recently since it is currently my only bike at the moment.  The total 
labor I payed the shop to build the bike was $590 (included custom wheel 
build, spokes,nipples). I am not mechanically inclined myself at all enough 
to take on a build just yet.  I think I am just going to add OBO to the 
listing to see what happens.  I have been getting so much messages from the 
haters out there telling me how it is only a $2000 bike at best.  Someone 
lucky one day will buy it from me and enjoy it hopefully as much as I am 
right now.  I figured since I am in no rush to sell it I might as well keep 
the price high and let people negotiate me down from there.  Potential 
buyers can make their own calculated presumption on how much depreciation 
has occurred and the price they are willing to pay for the now "used like 
new bike".  Thank you to all who enjoy the build and have commented as 
such.  It is probably one of the smoothest shifting and most plush builds I 
have ever had the pleasure of riding.  I am not really wanting to let it go 
but need to recoup some funds for the next build I am planning to do...so 
up for sale it goes.

On Saturday, December 19, 2020 at 5:31:42 AM UTC-8 belopol...@gmail.com 
wrote:

> It looks nice! For sale?
>
> https://sfbay.craigslist.org/nby/bik/d/petaluma-rivendell-clem-smith-jr-59cm/7247895131.html
> On Saturday, December 19, 2020 at 7:47:54 AM UTC-5 EricP wrote:
>
>> Very nice build. This kind of build reminds me of why Grant, et.al, look 
>> at the Clem as the modern version of the old Stumpjumpers and other early 
>> west coast style mountain bikes with the long chainstays. 
>>
>> Eric Platt
>> St. Paul, MN
>>
>> On Friday, December 18, 2020 at 4:49:53 PM UTC-6 Jordan Dean wrote:
>>
>>> [image: LapRoeQVSVWHA9Pgb3PWiA.jpg]
>>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: How do you ship yer Riv?

[Paul in Vermont]

Hello Jay/Joe,

Thanks for your replies. I love the look of Bike Fridays and have wondered 
how they ride. 

I used to have a Brompton, which was excellent if I wasn't going to ride 
for more than a few hours, and never offroad — it was a blast in Paris and 
I used to carry it into Museums and they'd check it for me! But I'm so 
addicted to my Atlantis right now and it's high handlebars and big fat 
tires for dirt trails, that I want to bring it with me to the Azores in 
February (yes, you can still go to the Azores after a COVID test, and it's 
inexpensive too). I don't know if I want to do the S thing, and unsure 
such a long wheelbase will work with one anyway.  So I'm going to have to 
cough up the $150 I think.

This really expensive case 
 seems to allow 
wheelbases up to 130mm... which would give me about 1cm to spare if true. 
Might order one to see if it will work if no better ideas come up here.

Love.
Paul

On Friday, December 18, 2020 at 8:33:04 PM UTC-5 Jay Lonner wrote:

> I have thought through this very problem for a while, and so much hinges 
> on how frequently you plan to travel with your bikes. If this is a one-off 
> then your best move is probably to bite the bullet and just pay the 
> ludicrous oversized shipping costs. That adds up quickly though, and if you 
> envision more frequent travel I’d look at alternative solutions, like 
> getting S couplers installed. In my case I concluded that dedicated 
> travel bikes were the best solution, and am expecting a pair of Bike 
> Fridays (or would that be Bikes Friday?) in the next few weeks. We went 
> full custom, but good deals are available on the used market.
>
> Jay Lonner
> Bellingham, WA
>
> Sent from my Atari 400
>
> On Dec 18, 2020, at 4:17 PM, dougP  wrote:
>
> 
>
> That's a tough one.  Have you checked with https://www.bikeflights.com/faq 
> ?  From discussions here, they seem a good source, and much more customer 
> oriented than common carriers.  I have not used them but would look into 
> next time I ship my bike.
>
> My 58cm Atlantis is the old, shorter wheelbase & it's like doing Rubik's 
> Cube to get it into a dedicated bike box that the airlines will accept as 
> not being oversize.  The long wheelbase of the newer models could create 
> problems, unless you have a small frame.  The airlines all have weight 
> limits (varies by carrier but 50 lbs is common) that are expensive to 
> exceed.  Ground shipment generally has a 70lb limit before extra charges.  
>
> dougP
>
> On Friday, December 18, 2020 at 2:51:19 PM UTC-8 Paul in Vermont wrote:
>
>> Hello  All. 
>>
>> I am planning a trip out west to help take care of my parents, and I’d 
>> like to take my long wheelbase Atlantis and my wife’s Clem, as baggage on 
>>  the plane or by shipping them UPS.The wheelbases are so long they appear 
>> not to fit in most normal bike travel boxes. 
>>
>> I know I can use cardboard, but I’d prefer something more permanent I 
>> will use long term once the world opens up!
>>
>> How do you ship your long wheelbase Rivendell when you travel?
>>
>> Paul
>>
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[RBW] FS/FT: Shimano 600 Arabesque Gruppo and Campy Record Wheelset

[Thomas McCause]

Cross-posted to iBOB...if you are interested, let me know...I need to sell 
it before I pick up another N+1 project...

Cleaning out the archives of a few more things...
Gruppo Includes
Levers
Brakes (the 600 are non-nutted, the Dura Ace are recessed)
f/r derailleurs
bottom bracket
170mm cranks
downtube shifters-it is missing one of the grey semi-circle mounts, see 
pics for details

the wheelset is low flange campy record hubs 32h front and rear laced to 
NISI mixer rims.  In darn good shape, but I converted the bike they were on 
to single speed. The front QR is campy, the rear is not

Looking for $150 plus shipping for the gruppo 
and $200 plus shipping for the wheelset

if these prices seem out of whack, please let me know!

Shimano 600 - https://photos.app.goo.gl/5Wnp4PAZ9Kqnivba7
Wheelset - https://photos.app.goo.gl/jVqj4SNBHdzLB74y5

This would likely make a great eroica build for someone- let me know

Thomas
Fruita, CO 

Boats, Bikes, and Beers are pretty close to the trifecta for me.

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Re: [RBW] Re: Is there a Riv-like three speed currently in production?

[Patrick Moore]

Jack: Curious why 3 chainrings instead of 3 cogs in back? Three cogs would
be lighter and I daresay shift better ...?

On Tue, Dec 22, 2020 at 6:50 AM J Schwartz  wrote:

> It's possible
> here's my 3-speed Clem L
> 44/34/24 up front and a 20t cog in the back
>
> On Tuesday, December 22, 2020 at 8:05:48 AM UTC-5 Dave S wrote:
>
>> https://handsomecycles.com/products/fredward-3s
>>
>>
>>
>> On Monday, December 21, 2020 at 5:42:43 PM UTC-5 brettjc...@gmail.com
>> wrote:
>>
>>> A few years back I briefly had a three-speed Public done up in
>>> Rivendellian style, with a thumb shifter, albatross bars with shellacked
>>> tape, a nice silver porteur rack, etc. It was, as a bike shaped object,
>>> fine. It was not a Rivendell and I sold it a short time later to buy a
>>> Clem.
>>>
>>> I find myself missing having a three speed in the stable. I've long
>>> entertained thoughts of buying a Quickbeam, if one would ever come up for
>>> sale in my tall guy size, and adding a three speed hub. The same might be
>>> possible with the new Roaduno and I'll be keeping my eye on developments.
>>>
>>> I wonder, though, if there's a nice purpose built three speed out there
>>> I should be aware of but have missed. Any thoughts?
>>>
>>> If anyone here has put together a three speed Riv, I'd love to see
>>> photos or read insights?
>>>
>>> Brett in PDX.
>>>
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[RBW] Re: Fender install on '96 All-rounder

[Harth Huffman]

Oh, I have not heard of such a thing as a stand off!  Nice.  That looks 
like it would be more stable than the spacer I was considering.  I'll begin 
the process and see what length I need, Benz.  Thank you for your generous 
offer either way.  It is much appreciated.

Harth

On Monday, December 21, 2020 at 7:43:36 PM UTC-8 Benz Ouyang, Sunnyvale, CA 
wrote:

> Harth,
>
> From one All-Rounder owner to another, if you measure how long of a spacer 
> you need to bridge that gap, I may be able to send you a brass M5 standoff 
> of the correct length with M5 male and M5 female ends. Kind of like this 
> .
>  
> BTW, because All-Rounders have semi-horizontal dropouts (at least mine 
> does), you actually don't want to have too nice of a fender line or you may 
> not be able to remove the rear wheel without deflating the tire.
>
> I use standoffs with success on a few bikes to adjust the fender line (not 
> my All-Rounder, which is currently fenderless):
>
> [image: Standoff.jpg]
>
>
> On Monday, December 21, 2020 at 10:55:05 AM UTC-8 har...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> The chainstay bridge is pretty far away from the wheel on these old 
>> frames.  I'm about to install new fenders to replace the beat-up and 
>> butchered old ones I used for far too long.  I am thinking I'll just use a 
>> lengthy cylindrical bolt spacer to run from the bridge to the fender, but 
>> that seems like it will move around a lot.  If you have put fenders on one 
>> of these, what do you use?
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Harth
>> Portland
>>
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Re: [RBW] FS - Cafam Cantis, one Bike's Worth

[J Schwartz]

Patrick 
I'm pretty sure you had the Mk I version of those brakes ..not the Mk II 
Mike was selling
not sure how they are/were different. 
And weird that that's something I remember about your old green SH. 
Probably because it's the same generation as mine.
Jason

On Monday, December 21, 2020 at 6:57:04 PM UTC-5 Patrick Moore wrote:

> Again, Mike, no worries, thanks for the reply, and good on yer for the 
> sale. 
>
> On Mon, Dec 21, 2020 at 3:37 PM Mike Godwin  wrote:
>
>> Sorry Patrick.  The brakes are claimed, I went out for a ride in the nice 
>> weather and just saw this. 
>>
>> As for the brakes, they were pretty powerful on Bob Jackson #2. No 
>> squeal, but I only rode it with the original wheelset and the brake shoes 
>> and rims were broken in by the previous owner.  Very positive braking 
>> force, modulated the pressure when squeezing the brake levers (Campy Chorus 
>> brifters). The springs are quite strong, but they appear to be infinitely 
>> adjustable. The set-up looks similar to Paul canti brakes.  
>>
>> I'm running Dia Compe 980s (new version from Riv) with stock pads and the 
>> brakes work great on the renewed BJ#2 (wheelset I used on the short-lived 
>> Atlantis) and no shuddering.  Not as powerful as the Cafam brakes, but 
>> still very good. Using the same brake and wheelset on the Atlantis, it 
>> shuddered even with moderate braking which was pretty annoying. The cable 
>> run on BJ#2 is a bit different, but a whole different bike it would be 
>> difficult to pinpoint why Atlantis shuddered on braking and BJ#2 does not. 
>>
>> Mike SLO CA  spoke...@gmail.com  
>>
>> On Monday, December 21, 2020 at 12:44:21 PM UTC-8 Patrick Moore wrote:
>>
>>> Sorry, can't take this offlist, which I meant it to be. Mike, I have 
>>> bought many things from you and v-v, but don't currently have your email 
>>> address. Can you send?
>>>
>>> Moving on to point: Mike: I think those IRDs may be the wonderful brakes 
>>> Riv staff installed on the shop floor Sam Hill I bought back in 
>>> whateverthehellitwas; first edition Sam. Those were the best brakes of all, 
>>> comparing Vs, discs, dual and single pivots, centerpulls, stirrups, 
>>> Altenbergers, stirrup/bowden hybrids, coasters, drums; all sorts and all 
>>> makes and models. 
>>>
>>> I am still hoping to get my Tektro CR 520s to stop squealing in front, 
>>> but scuttlebutt says that these have sloppy pivots and so, if within a 
>>> month or so, after buying some lacquer thinner to clean rim, and going back 
>>> to OEM Tektro pads, don't fix problem, I may be interested if these haven't 
>>> sold by then. Just sayin'. 
>>>
>>> Can you tell me whether these are likely to work well, no squeal or 
>>> shudder, with long head and steerer tubes?
>>>
>>> Thanks.
>>>
>>> Question, general, for full list, not IRD related: with some posts in 
>>> gmail I can dig out the sender's personal email address by creating draft 
>>> and clicking on the rbw address, which makes the sender's address show up; 
>>> with others, Mikes here included, I can't. Does anyone know why this is so?
>>>
>>> On Mon, Dec 21, 2020 at 10:29 AM Mike Godwin  wrote:
>>>
 Hi, found these too I meant to post for the offering:  

 Cafam Brakes, $100 shipped.  All bits - mounting bolts, brakes, kool 
 stop pads, straddle cables, anchors on one arm, and the canti post 
 sleeves. 

 IRD Cantilever Brake Cafam II | Interloc Racing 
 
   

 Mike SLO CA

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[RBW] Re: Is there a Riv-like three speed currently in production?

[Tom Wyland]

Handsome Cycles if you prefer 
drops:  
https://handsomecycles.com/products/limited-fredward-road-3-classic-black-tan

Take a look at the Devil geometry on Bike Insights.  I have one and it's 
very Sam-like.  Maybe even a little more stretched out.

Tom

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[RBW] Re: Is there a Riv-like three speed currently in production?

[Dave S]

https://handsomecycles.com/products/fredward-3s



On Monday, December 21, 2020 at 5:42:43 PM UTC-5 brettjc...@gmail.com wrote:

> A few years back I briefly had a three-speed Public done up in 
> Rivendellian style, with a thumb shifter, albatross bars with shellacked 
> tape, a nice silver porteur rack, etc. It was, as a bike shaped object, 
> fine. It was not a Rivendell and I sold it a short time later to buy a 
> Clem. 
>
> I find myself missing having a three speed in the stable. I've long 
> entertained thoughts of buying a Quickbeam, if one would ever come up for 
> sale in my tall guy size, and adding a three speed hub. The same might be 
> possible with the new Roaduno and I'll be keeping my eye on developments. 
>
> I wonder, though, if there's a nice purpose built three speed out there I 
> should be aware of but have missed. Any thoughts? 
>
> If anyone here has put together a three speed Riv, I'd love to see photos 
> or read insights? 
>
> Brett in PDX. 
>

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