[RBW] Re: FS: Susie/Wolbis, medium, blue

[Sal]

I'd just like to sell my bike to someone who's not a racist asshole, Mark. 
If that goes against the rules of this white men's club I'm sure the 
moderators will delete my thread. I don't care what people who enforce the 
law ride or read, and I'm not concerned with being perceived as friendly. 
I'm sure your existence is generally apolitical because the world already 
suits you just fine, but I don't see how that's relevant to the sale of 
this bicycle. 

On Monday, February 15, 2021 at 8:31:44 PM UTC-8 Mark Roland wrote:

> Disappointed to see what strikes me as inserting a political statement, 
> under whatever guise. And now further banter and a link for where to buy? 
> That seems not a great idea for this forum. Just for starters, do you think 
> people in law enforcement ride Rivendells or read this forum? If so, which 
> would your advocacy for hate fall under: respectful, supportive, or 
> friendly? I'm sure you are committed to your cause, but I don't see why 
> it's necessary to express it here.
>
> On Sunday, February 14, 2021 at 5:17:19 PM UTC-5 Sal wrote:
>
>> Very lightly used medium Wolbis in RBW blue. As shown minus wheel set and 
>> crankset/pedals for $2600 plus shipping. It would be nice to sell it as 
>> described as a near-complete bicycle, but I'll go to the trouble of parting 
>> it out if you want to pay $1800 for frame/fork/headset, or $2175 for 
>> frame/fork/headset/brakes. Not currently interested in selling individual 
>> components and not open to trades. I'm not in the habit of accepting goods 
>> as payment but I made an exception for this bike. I love it, obviously, but 
>> I want it to turn into money now.
>>
>> Components include XTR M960 rd, suntour power ratchet shifter, custom 
>> Paul Motolites (gold drive side, blue non drive side, alternating green and 
>> pink adjusters), tosco bull moose bars (on an adapter). The saddle in the 
>> photo is a titanium-railed B-17 that's been sewn together for tightness 
>> though the leather is still nice and firm. It's included in the whole 
>> package if you want it. This is a very lightly used bicycle that will feel 
>> almost new to you. It has one small paint chip (email for pics) and one 
>> sticker that says "all my friends hate cops" over the NDS chainstay 
>> graphics. If that offends you you'll have to remove it yourself.
>>
>> Located in Portland, OR... once the ice melts I can deliver locally. Open 
>> to shipping (through bike shop or in original frame box depending on the 
>> configuration purchased)
>>
>> Please email directly if seriously interested for more info/pictures.
>> [image: wolbis-9407.jpg]
>> [image: wolbis-9389.jpg]
>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: FS: Susie/Wolbis, medium, blue

[Mark Roland]

Disappointed to see what strikes me as inserting a political statement, 
under whatever guise. And now further banter and a link for where to buy? 
That seems not a great idea for this forum. Just for starters, do you think 
people in law enforcement ride Rivendells or read this forum? If so, which 
would your advocacy for hate fall under: respectful, supportive, or 
friendly? I'm sure you are committed to your cause, but I don't see why 
it's necessary to express it here.

On Sunday, February 14, 2021 at 5:17:19 PM UTC-5 Sal wrote:

> Very lightly used medium Wolbis in RBW blue. As shown minus wheel set and 
> crankset/pedals for $2600 plus shipping. It would be nice to sell it as 
> described as a near-complete bicycle, but I'll go to the trouble of parting 
> it out if you want to pay $1800 for frame/fork/headset, or $2175 for 
> frame/fork/headset/brakes. Not currently interested in selling individual 
> components and not open to trades. I'm not in the habit of accepting goods 
> as payment but I made an exception for this bike. I love it, obviously, but 
> I want it to turn into money now.
>
> Components include XTR M960 rd, suntour power ratchet shifter, custom Paul 
> Motolites (gold drive side, blue non drive side, alternating green and pink 
> adjusters), tosco bull moose bars (on an adapter). The saddle in the photo 
> is a titanium-railed B-17 that's been sewn together for tightness though 
> the leather is still nice and firm. It's included in the whole package if 
> you want it. This is a very lightly used bicycle that will feel almost new 
> to you. It has one small paint chip (email for pics) and one sticker that 
> says "all my friends hate cops" over the NDS chainstay graphics. If that 
> offends you you'll have to remove it yourself.
>
> Located in Portland, OR... once the ice melts I can deliver locally. Open 
> to shipping (through bike shop or in original frame box depending on the 
> configuration purchased)
>
> Please email directly if seriously interested for more info/pictures.
> [image: wolbis-9407.jpg]
> [image: wolbis-9389.jpg]
>
>

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[RBW] Re: Albastache Conversion--first ride review

[zem...@gmail.com]

Dear Bill, 

Just checking in on your Ablastache conversion years later! Still using 
them with Leo? Or switched back to drops?

Cheers,

Zack

On Friday, November 9, 2018 at 2:50:25 PM UTC-5 Bill Lindsay wrote:

> As you know I did a 200k brevet on my Leo Roadini last weekend. I decided 
> a little while back to experiment with Albastache bars on the Roadini to 
> tweak it's spot in the stable a little bit.  I'm looking for the athletic 
> yet civilized vibe of a 1980s sport-touring machine, and I also wanted to 
> project kind of the 2019-version of a 1992 XO-1.  That XO-1 angle was 
> influenced in part that I was already running a Nitto/Ritchey stem that 
> originally came stock on a Bridgestone XO-1.  
>
> Last night I did the conversion. I pulled the 46cm Soba Noodle bars only.  
> Same stem, same shifters.  The only associated work was I took a couple 
> inches off the brake cable housing. The bar swap, tape job and first coat 
> of shellac took about an hour.  I left it to dry and this morning installed 
> the barcon shifters and took it for my 40-mile 3000ft commute to my 
> office.  Here's the look:
>
>
> [image: IMG_1142.jpg]
>
> [image: IMG_1141.jpg]
>
> Executive summary: the Albastache bars are terrific.  They are neither 
> 'better' nor 'worse' than drop bars for me.  They are different and good 
> different. I'm happy to have an Albastache road bike in my stable and have 
> no qualms whatsoever about trying a 200k brevet on this bike in this 
> configuration.  
>
>
> Like drop bars, Albastache bars give me several good places to put my 
> hands.  I'm a cockpit fidgeter, and I move around quite a bit, particularly 
> when solo and particularly in the hills.  The selection of choices took a 
> couple of minutes to figure out, but they are all familiar and normal 
> feeling to me.  I did not use any of the super narrow real estate this 
> morning because my Ruthworks rackless Brevet Bag took up that space.  If we 
> think of Albastache bars as splayed out drop bars, then with my hands in 
> the 'drops' is a very upright comfortable cruising position.  I noticed 
> that the combination of my weight reasonably far back due to Leo's slack 
> seat tube angle, and my upper body up and back with the Albastache cockpit, 
> the steering felt VERY light, reminding me of the low trail bikes I've 
> ridden.  That light touch steerability Is not something I normally 
> associate with Rivendells.  When I plant myself into the beginning of the 
> hooks or all the way into the hooks, then I got more of the standard Riv 
> steering feel where I think where I want to go and my hips take care of 
> it.  
>
>
> The only awkwardness was deciding which position to use from a stop.  That 
> full forward position which puts my hands in a shape like they would be on 
> a straight bar, was the most awkward.  The best places were in the drops or 
> the beginning of the hook curve. That's the closest thing to the 
> on-the-hoods hand shape.  The cool thing is that I noticed when standing, 
> as I was rocking the bike, each time I slightly unloaded one hand, it was 
> easy to wander position like 1cm at a time.  Normally with drop bars I pick 
> my hand-spot, stand, do what I need to do, sit, and reposition my hands.  
> With Albastache I was able to wander around incrementally while standing, 
> which was kind of cool.  
>
>
> My full-tuck full-power positions sometimes had my elbows down below the 
> level of the drops.  On descents I found a position where my hands were in 
> the hooks near the brakelevers and my forearms were resting on the drops, 
> which was also kind of cool, like an aerobars position.  I did not attack 
> the ride itself, because the air quality is lousy from the wildfires.  Even 
> though the fire area is over 100 miles away, the smoke is everywhere, so I 
> took it comparatively easy.  For a speedcheck I went for a PR on the 
> descent down Redwood Road from the Chabot Park entrance to the Golf 
> Course.  This descent doesn't let me pedal much because I'm rolling too 
> fast.  My time mainly comes down to handling and aerodynamics.  I went for 
> a Strava PR and I got it.  Out of 16 total efforts on this segment, I was 
> 15 seconds faster than I had ever done it before (3:53 vs my previous best 
> of 4:08).  That's in the top 20% all-time on Strava, out of ~7000 riders.  
> Does that mean that Albastache bars are objectively faster than drop bars?  
> No.  But that result does support my opinion that I was not objectively 
> slower using Albastache bars on this bike.  
>
>
> So, I'm pleased with my initial experience on Albastache bars. I'm not 
> going to go replace all the drop bars on all my bikes, but I'm glad to have 
> an Albastache road bike on-hand.  It is a distinct possibility that I'll 
> freak out my SFR comrades by running this bike at the December 200k
>
>
> Bill Lindsay
>
> El Cerrito, CA
>
>
>

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[RBW] Re: WTB 46 or 48cm Noodle Bars

[Richard Borneman]

Found some bars. Thanks everybody.

On Sunday, February 14, 2021 at 8:33:49 PM UTC-5 Richard Borneman wrote:

> Looking for some 46cm or 48cm Nitto Noodle bars. I have a set Moustache 
> bars and other stuff for trade or cash for purchase. Let me know what you 
> have.
> Richardd
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Re: [RBW] Happy Valentine’s Day: Triple hearts for you!

[JAS]

Joe and Leah, 
Thanks!  I’m glad you liked the photo.  Another detail you may not have 
been able to see is a snappy little Corgi pin on the hat.  (That’s another 
story that may show up on IG).

—Joyce and Snow Buddy (“I’m elting!”)

On Monday, February 15, 2021 at 6:06:39 AM UTC-8 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
wrote:

> Joyce, you’re a trooper! I love the photo and I’m glad you pointed out the 
> sign language because I’d have missed that endearing detail. 
> #RivSisters,
> Leah
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> On Feb 14, 2021, at 10:26 PM, JAS  wrote:
>
> 
>
> <7AE73C28-DB3A-49D7-90DA-7CD78FAE8520.jpeg>
> Snow buddies have hearts too.  Love that Clem!  (It’s hard to see, but the 
> gloves are signing “I love you!”). 
>
> —Joyce, from the snowy NW
>
>
> On Sunday, February 14, 2021 at 1:16:08 PM UTC-8 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> Sent from my iPad
>>
>> On Feb 14, 2021, at 1:15 PM, Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! <
>> jonasa...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Happy Valentine’s Day! Every year I send Betty Foy hearts on this 
>> forum, but this year, you get Platy hearts. Coming to you in the 2nd post, 
>> and hopefully not sideways. 
>>
>>
>>
>> We started the day off with a ride into town for coffee. We dashed home 
>> with breakfast burritos in tow to enjoy with the boys, and not even my 
>> husband’s flat tire could ruin our fun. 
>>
>> Have a lovely day, everyone. I wish you bike rides and chocolate.
>>
>> Leah
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Re: [RBW] Re: Questions about bars and brake levers

[Patrick Moore]

Thanks, Joe. Three answers today, and you've made your quota.

Seriously, thanks, in particular for the insight about the Jones bar.

On Mon, Feb 15, 2021 at 5:11 PM Joe Bernard  wrote:

> Apparently I'm the only one home and answering bar questions today so I'll
> offer one more thought:
>
> I've used Jones Loop Bars a few times and like the one longish position
> they offer at the grips, but think they're overrated for other positions.
> The grab-hold by the stem is useful for climbing kind of a bit, but the
> "aero" position forward was too narrow to be of any use to me.
>
> That's all I got, I'm out! ‍♂️
> On Monday, February 15, 2021 at 3:02:23 PM UTC-8 Patrick Moore wrote:
>
>> Thank you. Also close, but alas, per the photo, does not sweep back
>> enough.
>>
>> For some reason your post made me think of looking at VO's handlebar
>> product portfolio (bidniss speek, that) and the Dajia Far Bar (shallow 'n'
>> short flared drop, 44 cm at hoods), Granola Bar, and Curvy bar might
>> contend. There's also this, which is intriguing:
>> https://velo-orange.com/collections/handlebars/products/handlebar-accessory-mount
>>
>> If anyone can speak to any of these, I'll be grateful to hear from you.
>> Also, grateful for experiences with the Jones bar.
>>
>> My bars are so narrow (38 hoods road, 42 hoods off road, 56 cm flat mtb
>> bar) that sometimes I've not had enough flats space for bells and lights.
>> (No, I'm not small; ride a ~61-62 c-t road bike with flat tt; just don't
>> like splayed shoulders.)
>>
>> On Mon, Feb 15, 2021 at 3:53 PM Joe Bernard  wrote:
>>
>>> My bad, 31.8, black, it's Cinelli! 53cm, still narrow.
>>>
>>>
>>> https://northwestbicycle.com/products/pepper-alloy-fixie-riser-bar-blk-31-8-53cm-b-cn1981?utm_medium=cpc_source=google_campaign=Google%20Shopping=USD=Cj0KCQiA1KiBBhCcARIsAPWqoSo9y35kaAkG2CO0FazubKoezQ482GCc22eppsOg81B_OLEgDNCAZ0IaApzEEALw_wcB
>>>
>>> On Monday, February 15, 2021 at 2:42:04 PM UTC-8 Patrick Moore wrote:
>>>
 Thanks, Joe, I'll take another look (took a quick one). The 25.4 mm
 clamp is not a deal breaker, but I'd prefer 31.8 (stem is 31.8) and black,
 so any advice (y'all) about a similar shape but in fatter clamp and darker
 color, please speak up.

 On Mon, Feb 15, 2021 at 12:52 PM Joe Bernard  wrote:

> You might like these Nitto Urban Bars they sell for the
> fixie/messenger crowd. They're narrow like you seem to want with the
> backsweep you need.
>
>
> https://www.benscycle.com/nitto-b260aa-urban-riser-handlebar-flatriser-handlebar-nitto-b260aa-870/p?idsku=642153=Cj0KCQiA1KiBBhCcARIsAPWqoSoN9w4f6ZBoiHwEw2lwOtCanVS2sImLj-APIlDkcyLYLENu94wUXxEaAlBsEALw_wcB
>
> On Monday, February 15, 2021 at 10:59:49 AM UTC-8 Patrick Moore wrote:
>
>> Sheesh. With higher and longer stem *and the right drop bar.*
>>
>> On Mon, Feb 15, 2021 at 11:58 AM Patrick Moore 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I know that I could get what I need with a longer (say 110 or 120 mm
>>> instead of 90) and higher (say 45* instead of 30*) stem, but the Monocog
>>> has cable discs (which work perfectly well with mtb levers, btw -- no
>>> rubbing, strong, only rather grabby). If I were to swap in a drop bar, 
>>> I'd
>>> have to change the levers.
>>>
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[RBW] Re: My Rambouillet Build

[Fullylugged]

Jay:  I had mine painted in Pelham AL by Nathan Barnes 
(https://www.instagram.com/nate_barnes81/).  He paints cars and motorcycles 
during the week, bicycles (and sometimes plane parts) on the weekend.  I 
think he does great work and he is very reasonable in cost. I have a PDF of 
the decals and had them made by a decal shop in MS. It was pretty 
reasonable and there are two clear coats over them on my bike. My color is 
actually a past Ford Mustang color called Autumn Gold. I didn't like it on 
the cars but I think it's very nice on the bicycle. The cream is standard 
RBW same as came on the bike. Msg me if you want more info on decals.  I've 
helped someone else here on the list as well, but am getting old and 
forgetful so I couldn't say who. 

the Old Slow Guy

On Monday, February 15, 2021 at 8:17:23 AM UTC-6 Jay LePree wrote:

> Ben:  That is beautiful.  I have one of the last orange white 54 cm that 
> we sold.  (I purchased it in 2003).  I have been looking for a painter.  
> Where did you have your bike painted?  How did you get the new decals?
>
> Jay
> Demarest, NJ
>
> On Friday, February 12, 2021 at 5:31:58 PM UTC-5 Ben Miller wrote:
>
>> Hello Fellow RBW Owners,
>>
>> Wanted to do a little update on my Rambouillet build in progress, now 
>> that it is actually taking form.
>>
>> First, a little bit of background. I've been lucky enough to have built 
>> up four (4!) Riv bikes already, but this is really shaping up to be a truly 
>> unique one for me. This Ram’s story started (for me) way back in late 2017 
>> with me purchasing it off fellow list member Keith as a F/F/HS. 
>> Unfortunately a number of not so great life events happened shortly after 
>> that, including fracturing my leg, taking me off the bike for nearly 6 
>> months. The frame moved with me down a new path in life, but mostly 
>> collected dust in my garage. Not forgotten or abandoned, but definitely a 
>> bit lonely while I worked on 2 more bikes that were more recently acquired. 
>> During this time I quietly acquired used parts and ideas that eventually 
>> coalesced into a build for the Rambouillet.
>>
>> The Ram frame itself is 64 cm painted with a beautiful sage green with a 
>> bit of pearl iridescent to it. It has a couple of small paint chips on the 
>> non-drive side seatstay, but otherwise in pristine condition. It was 
>> included with a Tange headset.
>>
>> Previous Rivendell builds had mostly involved me purchasing brand new 
>> components (not having a large parts bin to work off of), I think these 
>> builds were still fun and interesting, but really been driven by new or 
>> recent bike component technology. My vision for the Ram build is really to 
>> focus on used/vintage/NOS stock parts as much as possible, but also fun and 
>> practical to me. I know, not a revolutionary design principle, but this is 
>> my first time executing it.
>>
>> The heart of this began around the idea of setting it up as a DT friction 
>> shifting using a vintage Huret Duopar Eco I got off eBay. The Duopar was 
>> originally introduced in 1975 with the Eco being released in 1981. These 40 
>> year old derailleurs were originally intended for 6 speed freewheel, but 
>> through the magic of friction shifting and a little finessing, seem to work 
>> just fine with a 9 speed cassette. The big thing about the Duopar is it was 
>> one of first (perhaps the first?) derailluer to handle up to a 36t cog and 
>> 40 teeth of chainwrap. My understanding is that these RD’s are slightly 
>> controversial in terms of either loving or hating them (lots is said about 
>> their maintenance issues), but part of this was trying to find out for 
>> myself. As I am just starting to learn about these derailleurs, it’d be 
>> nice to hear from others about their experience!
>>
>> Over the last couple of days I’ve been able to get the Duopar dialed in 
>> and shift through a Shimano HG 11-36 cassette using Silver DT shifters and 
>> paired with a Sugino triple that I converted to 44/30. Today I finished 
>> mounting a pair of Paul Racer centerpulls that I got off a list member and 
>> got strung together to the NOS Mafac levers I got off eBay. These are 
>> mounted on the Crust Shaka bars (my new favorite bars), which is so far the 
>> only brand new part on this build besides the Velo Orange seatpost (I did 
>> have a vintage seatpost I had been planning on using, but the mounting 
>> plates have a lot of corrosion that is preventing them from providing a 
>> tight hold). With brakes on and functional, I was able to take it out and 
>> test the shifting in real conditions. And I have to say, it feels really 
>> nice, couldn’t be happier at this point.
>>
>> The eventual plan is to swap the 700c wheels for 650b (but the 650b 
>> wheels that I had planned to go on here ended up on my girlfriends 
>> Rambouillet!) and put on 42mm BSP’s.
>>
>> I know this is a long write-up, but it’s been a long road to this build. 
>> But it is finally nearing 

Re: [RBW] Re: Questions about bars and brake levers

[Joe Bernard]

Apparently I'm the only one home and answering bar questions today so I'll 
offer one more thought:

I've used Jones Loop Bars a few times and like the one longish position 
they offer at the grips, but think they're overrated for other positions. 
The grab-hold by the stem is useful for climbing kind of a bit, but the 
"aero" position forward was too narrow to be of any use to me. 

That's all I got, I'm out! ‍♂️
On Monday, February 15, 2021 at 3:02:23 PM UTC-8 Patrick Moore wrote:

> Thank you. Also close, but alas, per the photo, does not sweep back 
> enough. 
>
> For some reason your post made me think of looking at VO's handlebar 
> product portfolio (bidniss speek, that) and the Dajia Far Bar (shallow 'n' 
> short flared drop, 44 cm at hoods), Granola Bar, and Curvy bar might 
> contend. There's also this, which is intriguing: 
> https://velo-orange.com/collections/handlebars/products/handlebar-accessory-mount
>
> If anyone can speak to any of these, I'll be grateful to hear from you. 
> Also, grateful for experiences with the Jones bar.
>
> My bars are so narrow (38 hoods road, 42 hoods off road, 56 cm flat mtb 
> bar) that sometimes I've not had enough flats space for bells and lights. 
> (No, I'm not small; ride a ~61-62 c-t road bike with flat tt; just don't 
> like splayed shoulders.)
>
> On Mon, Feb 15, 2021 at 3:53 PM Joe Bernard  wrote:
>
>> My bad, 31.8, black, it's Cinelli! 53cm, still narrow. 
>>
>>
>> https://northwestbicycle.com/products/pepper-alloy-fixie-riser-bar-blk-31-8-53cm-b-cn1981?utm_medium=cpc_source=google_campaign=Google%20Shopping=USD=Cj0KCQiA1KiBBhCcARIsAPWqoSo9y35kaAkG2CO0FazubKoezQ482GCc22eppsOg81B_OLEgDNCAZ0IaApzEEALw_wcB
>>
>> On Monday, February 15, 2021 at 2:42:04 PM UTC-8 Patrick Moore wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks, Joe, I'll take another look (took a quick one). The 25.4 mm 
>>> clamp is not a deal breaker, but I'd prefer 31.8 (stem is 31.8) and black, 
>>> so any advice (y'all) about a similar shape but in fatter clamp and darker 
>>> color, please speak up.
>>>
>>> On Mon, Feb 15, 2021 at 12:52 PM Joe Bernard  wrote:
>>>
 You might like these Nitto Urban Bars they sell for the fixie/messenger 
 crowd. They're narrow like you seem to want with the backsweep you need. 


 https://www.benscycle.com/nitto-b260aa-urban-riser-handlebar-flatriser-handlebar-nitto-b260aa-870/p?idsku=642153=Cj0KCQiA1KiBBhCcARIsAPWqoSoN9w4f6ZBoiHwEw2lwOtCanVS2sImLj-APIlDkcyLYLENu94wUXxEaAlBsEALw_wcB

 On Monday, February 15, 2021 at 10:59:49 AM UTC-8 Patrick Moore wrote:

> Sheesh. With higher and longer stem *and the right drop bar.*
>
> On Mon, Feb 15, 2021 at 11:58 AM Patrick Moore  
> wrote:
>
>> I know that I could get what I need with a longer (say 110 or 120 mm 
>> instead of 90) and higher (say 45* instead of 30*) stem, but the Monocog 
>> has cable discs (which work perfectly well with mtb levers, btw -- no 
>> rubbing, strong, only rather grabby). If I were to swap in a drop bar, 
>> I'd 
>> have to change the levers.
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Re: [RBW] Austin Snowpocalypse 2021

[Jim Bronson]

I didn't try my Clem,  maybe tomorrow.   There are only car tracks on about
half of my street here in Leanderthal land, maybe the relatively unspoiled
half would work, worried about the glare ice underneath the snow though.

Stay warm gents, temp has already started to dip here,  17F and falling.

Jim
Leander, TX

On Mon, Feb 15, 2021, 17:38 Mike Packard  wrote:

> We're having some unusual weather in Austin this week. Clem plowed through
> the ~6" of accumulation in the park without too much trouble. No slo-mo
> power slide, sorry, I wasn't brave enough to try that.
>
> Mike
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Re: [RBW] Austin Snowpocalypse 2021

[Lyman Labry]

Wonderful.  Sounds like perfect bike for conditions.

LymanATX

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> We're having some unusual weather in Austin this week. Clem plowed through
> the ~6" of accumulation in the park without too much trouble. No slo-mo
> power slide, sorry, I wasn't brave enough to try that.
>
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[RBW] Re: New look for rivbike.com and new News blog

[Joe Bernard]

Hmm, I miss the ability to see most of the products in a category on one 
screen, then I can click on the one I want to investigate. Now if I go to 
Cranks I see one product and have to scroll down through all to see what's 
available. 

On Thursday, February 11, 2021 at 8:56:21 PM UTC-8 Dave wrote:

> Hi Everyone, 
>
> Just a heads-up that we launched a new theme today for the rivbike.com 
> webstore. We enlarged the photos all around, spruced up the homepage, 
> improved the search, and updated a number of things for a smoother 
> experience on desktop and mobile. We hope you like it!
>
> The other big reveal is that the Blug, our newsy blog that has been on 
> Tumblr ever since 2010, has now moved within rivbike.com to 
> https://www.rivbike.com/blogs/news.   With that move, you now have one 
> site for all the latest product updates, news and Grant's blog. Just head 
> to the homepage.
>
> Enjoy and let us know what you think. 
>
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[RBW] Re: FS: Susie/Wolbis, medium, blue

[Jared Wilson]

Just placed an order, thanks!

On Monday, February 15, 2021 at 2:36:31 PM UTC-8 Sal wrote:

> Thanks, I made them a while ago. Don't have ones that size anymore but I 
> still have lots. you can find them at eatatsals dot bigcartel dot com
>
> On Monday, February 15, 2021 at 1:35:26 PM UTC-8 duh...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Nice Susie, good luck with the sale.
>>
>> Question, where's "the sticker" from? I'd like one for my bike if I can 
>> find one.
>>
>> On Sunday, February 14, 2021 at 2:17:19 PM UTC-8 Sal wrote:
>>
>>> Very lightly used medium Wolbis in RBW blue. As shown minus wheel set 
>>> and crankset/pedals for $2600 plus shipping. It would be nice to sell it as 
>>> described as a near-complete bicycle, but I'll go to the trouble of parting 
>>> it out if you want to pay $1800 for frame/fork/headset, or $2175 for 
>>> frame/fork/headset/brakes. Not currently interested in selling individual 
>>> components and not open to trades. I'm not in the habit of accepting goods 
>>> as payment but I made an exception for this bike. I love it, obviously, but 
>>> I want it to turn into money now.
>>>
>>> Components include XTR M960 rd, suntour power ratchet shifter, custom 
>>> Paul Motolites (gold drive side, blue non drive side, alternating green and 
>>> pink adjusters), tosco bull moose bars (on an adapter). The saddle in the 
>>> photo is a titanium-railed B-17 that's been sewn together for tightness 
>>> though the leather is still nice and firm. It's included in the whole 
>>> package if you want it. This is a very lightly used bicycle that will feel 
>>> almost new to you. It has one small paint chip (email for pics) and one 
>>> sticker that says "all my friends hate cops" over the NDS chainstay 
>>> graphics. If that offends you you'll have to remove it yourself.
>>>
>>> Located in Portland, OR... once the ice melts I can deliver locally. 
>>> Open to shipping (through bike shop or in original frame box depending on 
>>> the configuration purchased)
>>>
>>> Please email directly if seriously interested for more info/pictures.
>>> [image: wolbis-9407.jpg]
>>> [image: wolbis-9389.jpg]
>>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Questions about bars and brake levers

[Patrick Moore]

Thank you. Also close, but alas, per the photo, does not sweep back enough.

For some reason your post made me think of looking at VO's handlebar
product portfolio (bidniss speek, that) and the Dajia Far Bar (shallow 'n'
short flared drop, 44 cm at hoods), Granola Bar, and Curvy bar might
contend. There's also this, which is intriguing:
https://velo-orange.com/collections/handlebars/products/handlebar-accessory-mount

If anyone can speak to any of these, I'll be grateful to hear from you.
Also, grateful for experiences with the Jones bar.

My bars are so narrow (38 hoods road, 42 hoods off road, 56 cm flat mtb
bar) that sometimes I've not had enough flats space for bells and lights.
(No, I'm not small; ride a ~61-62 c-t road bike with flat tt; just don't
like splayed shoulders.)

On Mon, Feb 15, 2021 at 3:53 PM Joe Bernard  wrote:

> My bad, 31.8, black, it's Cinelli! 53cm, still narrow.
>
>
> https://northwestbicycle.com/products/pepper-alloy-fixie-riser-bar-blk-31-8-53cm-b-cn1981?utm_medium=cpc_source=google_campaign=Google%20Shopping=USD=Cj0KCQiA1KiBBhCcARIsAPWqoSo9y35kaAkG2CO0FazubKoezQ482GCc22eppsOg81B_OLEgDNCAZ0IaApzEEALw_wcB
>
> On Monday, February 15, 2021 at 2:42:04 PM UTC-8 Patrick Moore wrote:
>
>> Thanks, Joe, I'll take another look (took a quick one). The 25.4 mm clamp
>> is not a deal breaker, but I'd prefer 31.8 (stem is 31.8) and black, so any
>> advice (y'all) about a similar shape but in fatter clamp and darker color,
>> please speak up.
>>
>> On Mon, Feb 15, 2021 at 12:52 PM Joe Bernard  wrote:
>>
>>> You might like these Nitto Urban Bars they sell for the fixie/messenger
>>> crowd. They're narrow like you seem to want with the backsweep you need.
>>>
>>>
>>> https://www.benscycle.com/nitto-b260aa-urban-riser-handlebar-flatriser-handlebar-nitto-b260aa-870/p?idsku=642153=Cj0KCQiA1KiBBhCcARIsAPWqoSoN9w4f6ZBoiHwEw2lwOtCanVS2sImLj-APIlDkcyLYLENu94wUXxEaAlBsEALw_wcB
>>>
>>> On Monday, February 15, 2021 at 10:59:49 AM UTC-8 Patrick Moore wrote:
>>>
 Sheesh. With higher and longer stem *and the right drop bar.*

 On Mon, Feb 15, 2021 at 11:58 AM Patrick Moore 
 wrote:

> I know that I could get what I need with a longer (say 110 or 120 mm
> instead of 90) and higher (say 45* instead of 30*) stem, but the Monocog
> has cable discs (which work perfectly well with mtb levers, btw -- no
> rubbing, strong, only rather grabby). If I were to swap in a drop bar, I'd
> have to change the levers.
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Re: [RBW] Re: Questions about bars and brake levers

[Joe Bernard]

My bad, 31.8, black, it's Cinelli! 53cm, still narrow. 

https://northwestbicycle.com/products/pepper-alloy-fixie-riser-bar-blk-31-8-53cm-b-cn1981?utm_medium=cpc_source=google_campaign=Google%20Shopping=USD=Cj0KCQiA1KiBBhCcARIsAPWqoSo9y35kaAkG2CO0FazubKoezQ482GCc22eppsOg81B_OLEgDNCAZ0IaApzEEALw_wcB

On Monday, February 15, 2021 at 2:42:04 PM UTC-8 Patrick Moore wrote:

> Thanks, Joe, I'll take another look (took a quick one). The 25.4 mm clamp 
> is not a deal breaker, but I'd prefer 31.8 (stem is 31.8) and black, so any 
> advice (y'all) about a similar shape but in fatter clamp and darker color, 
> please speak up.
>
> On Mon, Feb 15, 2021 at 12:52 PM Joe Bernard  wrote:
>
>> You might like these Nitto Urban Bars they sell for the fixie/messenger 
>> crowd. They're narrow like you seem to want with the backsweep you need. 
>>
>>
>> https://www.benscycle.com/nitto-b260aa-urban-riser-handlebar-flatriser-handlebar-nitto-b260aa-870/p?idsku=642153=Cj0KCQiA1KiBBhCcARIsAPWqoSoN9w4f6ZBoiHwEw2lwOtCanVS2sImLj-APIlDkcyLYLENu94wUXxEaAlBsEALw_wcB
>>
>> On Monday, February 15, 2021 at 10:59:49 AM UTC-8 Patrick Moore wrote:
>>
>>> Sheesh. With higher and longer stem *and the right drop bar.*
>>>
>>> On Mon, Feb 15, 2021 at 11:58 AM Patrick Moore  
>>> wrote:
>>>
 I know that I could get what I need with a longer (say 110 or 120 mm 
 instead of 90) and higher (say 45* instead of 30*) stem, but the Monocog 
 has cable discs (which work perfectly well with mtb levers, btw -- no 
 rubbing, strong, only rather grabby). If I were to swap in a drop bar, I'd 
 have to change the levers.

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Re: [RBW] Re: Questions about bars and brake levers

[Patrick Moore]

Thanks, Joe, I'll take another look (took a quick one). The 25.4 mm clamp
is not a deal breaker, but I'd prefer 31.8 (stem is 31.8) and black, so any
advice (y'all) about a similar shape but in fatter clamp and darker color,
please speak up.

On Mon, Feb 15, 2021 at 12:52 PM Joe Bernard  wrote:

> You might like these Nitto Urban Bars they sell for the fixie/messenger
> crowd. They're narrow like you seem to want with the backsweep you need.
>
>
> https://www.benscycle.com/nitto-b260aa-urban-riser-handlebar-flatriser-handlebar-nitto-b260aa-870/p?idsku=642153=Cj0KCQiA1KiBBhCcARIsAPWqoSoN9w4f6ZBoiHwEw2lwOtCanVS2sImLj-APIlDkcyLYLENu94wUXxEaAlBsEALw_wcB
>
> On Monday, February 15, 2021 at 10:59:49 AM UTC-8 Patrick Moore wrote:
>
>> Sheesh. With higher and longer stem *and the right drop bar.*
>>
>> On Mon, Feb 15, 2021 at 11:58 AM Patrick Moore  wrote:
>>
>>> I know that I could get what I need with a longer (say 110 or 120 mm
>>> instead of 90) and higher (say 45* instead of 30*) stem, but the Monocog
>>> has cable discs (which work perfectly well with mtb levers, btw -- no
>>> rubbing, strong, only rather grabby). If I were to swap in a drop bar, I'd
>>> have to change the levers.
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[RBW] Re: FS Paul Klampers

[Hugh Smitham]

Current status: sale pending.

Hugh

On Sunday, February 14, 2021 at 11:20:53 PM UTC-8 Hugh Smitham wrote:

> I realize most on this group do Rim brakes but I figure some may have 
> other bike builds too.
>
> For sale black on black Paul Klampers, Post mount/IS Long Pull $250 for 
> the pair. As a bonus comes with adapters cables and housing was originally 
> installed on my semi custom Bantam with Jones bars.
>
> More pictures upon request. If you're interested DM me.
>
> Shipping  cost to be determined. Not shipping out of the contiguous United 
> States.
>
> Hugh
>
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[RBW] Re: FS: Susie/Wolbis, medium, blue

[Sal]

Thanks, I made them a while ago. Don't have ones that size anymore but I 
still have lots. you can find them at eatatsals dot bigcartel dot com

On Monday, February 15, 2021 at 1:35:26 PM UTC-8 duh...@gmail.com wrote:

> Nice Susie, good luck with the sale.
>
> Question, where's "the sticker" from? I'd like one for my bike if I can 
> find one.
>
> On Sunday, February 14, 2021 at 2:17:19 PM UTC-8 Sal wrote:
>
>> Very lightly used medium Wolbis in RBW blue. As shown minus wheel set and 
>> crankset/pedals for $2600 plus shipping. It would be nice to sell it as 
>> described as a near-complete bicycle, but I'll go to the trouble of parting 
>> it out if you want to pay $1800 for frame/fork/headset, or $2175 for 
>> frame/fork/headset/brakes. Not currently interested in selling individual 
>> components and not open to trades. I'm not in the habit of accepting goods 
>> as payment but I made an exception for this bike. I love it, obviously, but 
>> I want it to turn into money now.
>>
>> Components include XTR M960 rd, suntour power ratchet shifter, custom 
>> Paul Motolites (gold drive side, blue non drive side, alternating green and 
>> pink adjusters), tosco bull moose bars (on an adapter). The saddle in the 
>> photo is a titanium-railed B-17 that's been sewn together for tightness 
>> though the leather is still nice and firm. It's included in the whole 
>> package if you want it. This is a very lightly used bicycle that will feel 
>> almost new to you. It has one small paint chip (email for pics) and one 
>> sticker that says "all my friends hate cops" over the NDS chainstay 
>> graphics. If that offends you you'll have to remove it yourself.
>>
>> Located in Portland, OR... once the ice melts I can deliver locally. Open 
>> to shipping (through bike shop or in original frame box depending on the 
>> configuration purchased)
>>
>> Please email directly if seriously interested for more info/pictures.
>> [image: wolbis-9407.jpg]
>> [image: wolbis-9389.jpg]
>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: FS: Susie/Wolbis, medium, blue

[Jared Wilson]

Nice Susie, good luck with the sale.

Question, where's "the sticker" from? I'd like one for my bike if I can 
find one.

On Sunday, February 14, 2021 at 2:17:19 PM UTC-8 Sal wrote:

> Very lightly used medium Wolbis in RBW blue. As shown minus wheel set and 
> crankset/pedals for $2600 plus shipping. It would be nice to sell it as 
> described as a near-complete bicycle, but I'll go to the trouble of parting 
> it out if you want to pay $1800 for frame/fork/headset, or $2175 for 
> frame/fork/headset/brakes. Not currently interested in selling individual 
> components and not open to trades. I'm not in the habit of accepting goods 
> as payment but I made an exception for this bike. I love it, obviously, but 
> I want it to turn into money now.
>
> Components include XTR M960 rd, suntour power ratchet shifter, custom Paul 
> Motolites (gold drive side, blue non drive side, alternating green and pink 
> adjusters), tosco bull moose bars (on an adapter). The saddle in the photo 
> is a titanium-railed B-17 that's been sewn together for tightness though 
> the leather is still nice and firm. It's included in the whole package if 
> you want it. This is a very lightly used bicycle that will feel almost new 
> to you. It has one small paint chip (email for pics) and one sticker that 
> says "all my friends hate cops" over the NDS chainstay graphics. If that 
> offends you you'll have to remove it yourself.
>
> Located in Portland, OR... once the ice melts I can deliver locally. Open 
> to shipping (through bike shop or in original frame box depending on the 
> configuration purchased)
>
> Please email directly if seriously interested for more info/pictures.
> [image: wolbis-9407.jpg]
> [image: wolbis-9389.jpg]
>
>

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[RBW] Re: FS: Velo Orange 31.8 Quill Stem w/ Removeable Faceplate, 90mm (Nickel)

[Irving]

$OLD

On Monday, February 15, 2021 at 11:30:35 AM UTC-8 Irving wrote:

> $45 shipped via padded USPS envelope
>
> Velo Orange 31.8 Quill Stem with Removable Faceplate
>
> 90mm, 31.8mm Clamp Size (Nickel)
>
> Used but excellent condition, I had Jones Bars-->Velo Orange 
> Curvy-->Simworks Getarounds mounted on this stem on my Hunqapillar and it 
> was good times (moved to a 25.4 quill stem and Getaround Bars for a more 
> classic look)
>
>
> https://velo-orange.com/products/quill-stem-with-removable-faceplate-31-8mm?variant=52981509255
>  
>
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[RBW] Re: Questions about bars and brake levers

[Joe Bernard]

You might like these Nitto Urban Bars they sell for the fixie/messenger 
crowd. They're narrow like you seem to want with the backsweep you need. 

https://www.benscycle.com/nitto-b260aa-urban-riser-handlebar-flatriser-handlebar-nitto-b260aa-870/p?idsku=642153=Cj0KCQiA1KiBBhCcARIsAPWqoSoN9w4f6ZBoiHwEw2lwOtCanVS2sImLj-APIlDkcyLYLENu94wUXxEaAlBsEALw_wcB

On Monday, February 15, 2021 at 10:59:49 AM UTC-8 Patrick Moore wrote:

> Sheesh. With higher and longer stem *and the right drop bar.*
>
> On Mon, Feb 15, 2021 at 11:58 AM Patrick Moore  wrote:
>
>> I know that I could get what I need with a longer (say 110 or 120 mm 
>> instead of 90) and higher (say 45* instead of 30*) stem, but the Monocog 
>> has cable discs (which work perfectly well with mtb levers, btw -- no 
>> rubbing, strong, only rather grabby). If I were to swap in a drop bar, I'd 
>> have to change the levers.
>>
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[RBW] Re: Questions about bars and brake levers

[Patrick Moore]

Sheesh. With higher and longer stem *and the right drop bar.*

On Mon, Feb 15, 2021 at 11:58 AM Patrick Moore  wrote:

> I know that I could get what I need with a longer (say 110 or 120 mm
> instead of 90) and higher (say 45* instead of 30*) stem, but the Monocog
> has cable discs (which work perfectly well with mtb levers, btw -- no
> rubbing, strong, only rather grabby). If I were to swap in a drop bar, I'd
> have to change the levers.
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[RBW] Questions about bars and brake levers

[Patrick Moore]

My Monocog (so much prettier than Leah's Platypus) is surprisingly
comfortable with the stock (at least, that's what I got with the bike as
second owner) mtb bar after I cut fully 8" off of it, but the shortening
also cut off the ends that curved backward, and now there is only a minimal
rearward angle; I'd like more. Also, I'd like more positions, both a sit up
and beg type position and a lower and narrower hard-surface cruising
position in addition to the sit-up-and-beg.

I know that I could get what I need with a longer (say 110 or 120 mm
instead of 90) and higher (say 45* instead of 30*) stem, but the Monocog
has cable discs (which work perfectly well with mtb levers, btw -- no
rubbing, strong, only rather grabby). If I were to swap in a drop bar, I'd
have to change the levers.

1. Jones bar or flared drop or something else? I don't want a bar with huge
rearward sweep and, in fact, if I were to buy the Jones bar I looked at,
I'd amputate all but fistfulls from each end.

2. If drop, which one? I'd like a flared drop for dirt and brush control,
but with slightly narrower hoods that are comfortable when cruising on
flat, hard ground, not hugely wide (of the 6 or 8 flared drops I tried over
the years, from the original WTBs to the an On One bar of some sort that
was far too wide, a 44 cm Salsa Bell Lap was the best, but that was 10
years ago or more. I'd set this up higher and closer so that the hooks are
comfortable on (flat) singletrack, but the hoods comfortable for cruising
with elbows bent, and the flats for situpandbeg.

3. Brake lever question: One advantage of the Jones is that I could use the
existing levers. But for a drop bar, another question: Has anyone
experience using cable *MOUNTAIN BIKE *discs with *NON-AERO ROAD* levers?
Those in question are an old pair of mid-level Campy *non aero* levers.

4. On One Mary? I find the present too-straight cut down mtb bar more
comfortable than the apparently similar Suly Open bar, though.

Ta!

Patrick

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Re: [RBW] Re: WTB: Bike trailer for 30 lbs. Dog

[Brendan Willard]

Scapegoat?  You have some pretty bikes! 

>> Thanks,
>> -Brendan Willard
>> Owner/Winemaker
>> Phantômé Cellars
phantomecellars.com 

Speaking in Thumbs 

> On Feb 15, 2021, at 10:31 AM, Ben Miller  wrote:
> 
> Brendan, 
> 
> I'm still up in the Sierras until tonight. I'll email you directly about 
> tomorrow. But I realized this is a great opportunity to share non-Riv bike 
> related content and the reason why I'm in the Sierras! 
> 
>> On Monday, February 15, 2021 at 9:49:47 AM UTC-8 Brendan Willard in SF wrote:
>> Thanks Ben! I’m free today and much if tomorrow. What would like for the 
>> trailer?
>> 
 Thanks,
 -Brendan Willard
 Owner/Winemaker
 Phantômé Cellars
>> phantomecellars.com 
>> 
>> Speaking in Thumbs 
>> 
 On Feb 15, 2021, at 9:39 AM, Ben Miller  wrote:
 
>>> Hi Brendan,
>> 
>>> 
>>> I have a red Doggy Ride trailer that I barely use. Currently living at the 
>>> top of a big and steep hill with a 55 lb is pretty limiting. Would be happy 
>>> to see it get some use by you and Baxby
>>> 
>>> Ben in SF
>>> 
 On Monday, February 15, 2021 at 9:11:04 AM UTC-8 Brendan Willard in SF 
 wrote:
 Just checking to see if anyone has a bike trailer they no longer use.  
 Baxby is getting upset when I go out on adventures without him!
>>> 
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Re: [RBW] My Rambouillet Build

[Ben Miller]

Thanks for all kind words everyone! Especially Andy in Pittsburgh and Evan 
for sharing their gorgeous Orange Ram builds! 

Tommy: No, as noted, I bought this frame wy back in 2017 from list 
member Keith. It sounds like you bought and sold yours during that time 
frame. Which just emphasizes how long I've been sitting on this project. 
*Sigh* Yours maybe looks like a slightly darker green? Hard to tell from 
the photos though.

Jason: I used grey Jagwire housing for my build. Velo Orange's metallic 
braided housing looks very nice, but I had this already. It sounds like 
Mark is a better resource for setting up non-aero brakes, I just eyeballed 
it. And I don't know the code or official name of the green color.

Bruce: Yes, I do believe my frame is an early run. It also has an 
interesting feature of two retaining screws holding on the headbadge. Very 
interesting about the lugs! I wonder why Grant changed them. Were they're 
any other changes between runs?

Jay: I think you meant to ask Bruce where he got his painted (I haven't 
repainted a bike yet). Rivendell has a webpage about painters though, 
recommending Rick of D painting and Joe Bell.

Eric: What is the name of that doohicky?? 

On Monday, February 15, 2021 at 8:43:24 AM UTC-8 campyo...@me.com wrote:

> Zip ties? Ha! There’s special part for that:
>
>
> --Eric Norris
> campyo...@me.com
> Insta: @CampyOnlyGuy
> YouTube: YouTube.com/CampyOnlyGuy  
>
> On Feb 14, 2021, at 8:30 PM, Mark Roland  wrote:
>
> Any regular cable housing will give you that swoop. Crossing the cables 
> can give them a bit more support. Some people zip tie them together here. 
> These days I usually top mine out about a hand's length maybe a smidge more 
> from the top of the tops to the high point of the arch. That's about as low 
> as you want to go; after that the cable can potentially exit the lever at 
> too severe of an angle, causing it to prematurely wear and possibly affect 
> braking performance. Right now four of my four roadworthy road bikes are 
> non-aero.( Photo angle can also make them look longer or shorter.)
>
> 
>
> 
> On Sunday, February 14, 2021 at 4:45:19 PM UTC-5 J Schwartz wrote:
>
>> I love this Rambouillet and it's decently wide gearing range.  Looks very 
>> comfy.
>>
>> I'm in the process of building up a similar Canti-Romdowntube 
>> shifters and non-aero levers.
>> Curious if there's a trick to get non-aero housing to swoop up and down 
>> gracefully like that?  Is there a type or brand that is best suited for 
>> this?
>> Also, does anyone know the name or code for this Ram color?
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>>
>> On Saturday, February 13, 2021 at 9:36:52 AM UTC-5 Tommy Patterson wrote:
>>
>>> I owned a 64cm sage green Ram recently... Do you have my old bike!? I 
>>> think our timelines are different. I bought mine from a used shop in 
>>> western NC in spring 2018 and sold it to a list member in summer 2019. I 
>>> liked almost everything about that bike but got interested in a BMC MCD and 
>>> let it go. In retrospect, I regret selling that bike and I am eagerly 
>>> anticipating the Roadinis coming back in stock this year. Here are two 
>>> photos of my sage green Ram. 
>>>
>>> On Fri, Feb 12, 2021 at 4:32 PM Ben Miller  wrote:
>>>
 Hello Fellow RBW Owners,

 Wanted to do a little update on my Rambouillet build in progress, now 
 that it is actually taking form.

 First, a little bit of background. I've been lucky enough to have built 
 up four (4!) Riv bikes already, but this is really shaping up to be a 
 truly 
 unique one for me. This Ram’s story started (for me) way back in late 2017 
 with me purchasing it off fellow list member Keith as a F/F/HS. 
 Unfortunately a number of not so great life events happened shortly after 
 that, including fracturing my leg, taking me off the bike for nearly 6 
 months. The frame moved with me down a new path in life, but mostly 
 collected dust in my garage. Not forgotten or abandoned, but definitely a 
 bit lonely while I worked on 2 more bikes that were more recently 
 acquired. 
 During this time I quietly acquired used parts and ideas that eventually 
 coalesced into a build for the Rambouillet.

 The Ram frame itself is 64 cm painted with a beautiful sage green with 
 a bit of pearl iridescent to it. It has a couple of small paint chips on 
 the non-drive side seatstay, but otherwise in pristine condition. It was 
 included with a Tange headset.

 Previous Rivendell builds had mostly involved me purchasing brand new 
 components (not having a large parts bin to work off of), I think these 
 builds were still fun and interesting, but really been driven by new or 
 recent bike component technology. My vision for the Ram build is really to 
 focus on used/vintage/NOS stock parts as much as possible, but also fun 
 and 
 practical to me. I know, not a revolutionary design 

Re: [RBW] Re: WTB: Bike trailer for 30 lbs. Dog

[Brendan Willard]

Thanks Ben! I’m free today and much if tomorrow. What would like for the 
trailer?

>> Thanks,
>> -Brendan Willard
>> Owner/Winemaker
>> Phantômé Cellars
phantomecellars.com 

Speaking in Thumbs 

> On Feb 15, 2021, at 9:39 AM, Ben Miller  wrote:
> 
> Hi Brendan,
> 
> I have a red Doggy Ride trailer that I barely use. Currently living at the 
> top of a big and steep hill with a 55 lb is pretty limiting. Would be happy 
> to see it get some use by you and Baxby
> 
> Ben in SF
> 
>> On Monday, February 15, 2021 at 9:11:04 AM UTC-8 Brendan Willard in SF wrote:
>> Just checking to see if anyone has a bike trailer they no longer use.  Baxby 
>> is getting upset when I go out on adventures without him!
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[RBW] Re: FS: Surly Cross Check 54 - upgraded to Hunqapillar so selling! Chris King Headset and SImWorks Stem $500

[André P]

Very nice looking paint job, love the hand painted logos. To take this 
slightly OT, how is it working with those enamels? Is it something a 
neophyte can handle? What I am looking to do is to paint some raised 
lettering on some lug castings. Pretty small lettering maybe 1/2 cm high. I 
did some googling and found people in some car forums talking about using 
one shot paints as well.

On Saturday, February 13, 2021 at 1:22:16 PM UTC-8 Jeffrey S wrote:

>
> I was finally able to upgrade to my dream, and first, Rivendell, a 
> Hunqapillar, so I am selling my Surly Cross Check frameset! $500
>
> 54 cm Cross Check - 2015-2016
> Chris King 1" threadless headset
> SimWorks Dirty Rhonda stem
> Shimano Bottom bracket that fit my vintage Sugino AT triple crankset
>
> I also have from it:
> Shimano Deore 10 speed deraileur - $20
> Shimano 10 speed cassette - $10
> Shimano bottom Bracket for a double - $10
>
> I am a sign painter and painted the frame a custom pink with hand lettered 
> surly lettering. The paint job isn't the toughest, but looks cool! I have 
> the extra paint I mixed I can give you for touch ups. 
>
> I am located in Portland, OR for local pick up but can ship too, which 
> would be an extra $70 or so. That is what it cost to get my new frame here.
>
> Here is the Craigslist link 
> 
>  
> for photos.
>
> Thanks!
> Jeffrey
>
>
>
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Re: [RBW] My Rambouillet Build

['Eric Norris' via RBW Owners Bunch]

Zip ties? Ha! There’s special part for that:


--Eric Norris
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> On Feb 14, 2021, at 8:30 PM, Mark Roland  wrote:
> 
> Any regular cable housing will give you that swoop. Crossing the cables can 
> give them a bit more support. Some people zip tie them together here. These 
> days I usually top mine out about a hand's length maybe a smidge more from 
> the top of the tops to the high point of the arch. That's about as low as you 
> want to go; after that the cable can potentially exit the lever at too severe 
> of an angle, causing it to prematurely wear and possibly affect braking 
> performance. Right now four of my four roadworthy road bikes are non-aero.( 
> Photo angle can also make them look longer or shorter.)
> 
> 
> On Sunday, February 14, 2021 at 4:45:19 PM UTC-5 J Schwartz wrote:
> I love this Rambouillet and it's decently wide gearing range.  Looks very 
> comfy.
> 
> I'm in the process of building up a similar Canti-Romdowntube shifters 
> and non-aero levers.
> Curious if there's a trick to get non-aero housing to swoop up and down 
> gracefully like that?  Is there a type or brand that is best suited for this?
> Also, does anyone know the name or code for this Ram color?
> 
> Thanks
> 
> 
> On Saturday, February 13, 2021 at 9:36:52 AM UTC-5 Tommy Patterson wrote:
> I owned a 64cm sage green Ram recently... Do you have my old bike!? I think 
> our timelines are different. I bought mine from a used shop in western NC in 
> spring 2018 and sold it to a list member in summer 2019. I liked almost 
> everything about that bike but got interested in a BMC MCD and let it go. In 
> retrospect, I regret selling that bike and I am eagerly anticipating the 
> Roadinis coming back in stock this year. Here are two photos of my sage green 
> Ram. 
> 
> On Fri, Feb 12, 2021 at 4:32 PM Ben Miller > wrote:
> Hello Fellow RBW Owners,
> 
> Wanted to do a little update on my Rambouillet build in progress, now that it 
> is actually taking form.
> 
> First, a little bit of background. I've been lucky enough to have built up 
> four (4!) Riv bikes already, but this is really shaping up to be a truly 
> unique one for me. This Ram’s story started (for me) way back in late 2017 
> with me purchasing it off fellow list member Keith as a F/F/HS. Unfortunately 
> a number of not so great life events happened shortly after that, including 
> fracturing my leg, taking me off the bike for nearly 6 months. The frame 
> moved with me down a new path in life, but mostly collected dust in my 
> garage. Not forgotten or abandoned, but definitely a bit lonely while I 
> worked on 2 more bikes that were more recently acquired. During this time I 
> quietly acquired used parts and ideas that eventually coalesced into a build 
> for the Rambouillet.
> 
> The Ram frame itself is 64 cm painted with a beautiful sage green with a bit 
> of pearl iridescent to it. It has a couple of small paint chips on the 
> non-drive side seatstay, but otherwise in pristine condition. It was included 
> with a Tange headset.
> 
> Previous Rivendell builds had mostly involved me purchasing brand new 
> components (not having a large parts bin to work off of), I think these 
> builds were still fun and interesting, but really been driven by new or 
> recent bike component technology. My vision for the Ram build is really to 
> focus on used/vintage/NOS stock parts as much as possible, but also fun and 
> practical to me. I know, not a revolutionary design principle, but this is my 
> first time executing it.
> 
> The heart of this began around the idea of setting it up as a DT friction 
> shifting using a vintage Huret Duopar Eco I got off eBay. The Duopar was 
> originally introduced in 1975 with the Eco being released in 1981. These 40 
> year old derailleurs were originally intended for 6 speed freewheel, but 
> through the magic of friction shifting and a little finessing, seem to work 
> just fine with a 9 speed cassette. The big thing about the Duopar is it was 
> one of first (perhaps the first?) derailluer to handle up to a 36t cog and 40 
> teeth of chainwrap. My understanding is that these RD’s are slightly 
> controversial in terms of either loving or hating them (lots is said about 
> their maintenance issues), but part of this was trying to find out for 
> myself. As I am just starting to learn about these derailleurs, it’d be nice 
> to hear from others about their experience!
> 
> Over the last couple of days I’ve been able to get the Duopar dialed in and 
> shift through a Shimano HG 11-36 cassette using Silver DT shifters and paired 
> with a Sugino triple that I converted to 44/30. Today I finished mounting a 
> pair of Paul Racer centerpulls that I got off a list member and got strung 
> together to the NOS Mafac levers I got off eBay. These are mounted on the 
> Crust Shaka bars (my new favorite bars), which is so far the only brand new 
> part on this 

Re: [RBW] Re: 11 speed with Silver DT shifters works great!

[Andrew Turner]

That sounds like a very impressive setup! I'd love to see a pic of your
build if you find the time.

I'm glad you brought up the 180 degrees of travel, that's certainly hitting
the limiting factor of friction 11 speed with Silver shifters.While it can
technically travel past 180 degrees (by a lot), I'm sure it'll eventually
find contact with the cable, so VO's 11 speed-specific DT shifter might be
better suited for modern mtb drivetrains or, dare I say, 12/13 speed
shenanigans. I can attest that Riv's Silver2 barends do NOT have enough
travel to hit 11 speed without some dremel work to the barpods.

On Mon, Feb 15, 2021 at 8:09 AM lconley  wrote:

> I just set up the shifting on my Riv Custom this weekend. I am using
> Silver 1 shifters with the shiny silver washer covers from Silver 2
> shifters covering the black plastic washer. The shifters are mounted on the
> braze-ons on the headtube. The derailleurs are Campagnolo Athena 11s (all
> silver in color). The cassette is a Dura-Ace (12-28) 11 speed as is the
> chain (actually it required links from 2 chains - long chainstays). The
> crank is a Rene Herse 42-26 11 speed. Everything works together great. It
> requires close to 180 degrees of shifter travel for the rear derailleur but
> that makes it easier to find all 11 speeds. The silver 2s would require
> less shifter rotation, but they are kind of big and ugly as a frame shifter.
> Now on to making the Rene Herse brakes play well with the Velocity Quill
> rims - the Rene Herse brake pads are 10mm wide and the braking surface on
> the Quills is 8mm wide. Either surgery on the pads or order Kool Stop
> smooth post Cross pads (7.5 mm wide).
>
> Laing
> Mixing and matching in Delray Beach FL
>
>
> On Saturday, February 13, 2021 at 12:39:46 AM UTC-5 Benz Ouyang,
> Sunnyvale, CA wrote:
>
>> One should note that Shimano’s 11-speed *MTB* rear derailleurs require
>> more cable pull to shift over 11 speeds than Shimano’s own 11-speed
>> *road* rear derailleurs, like your Ultegra 6800. The difference is not
>> trivial and exceeds 20%. Thus, one needs to qualify one’s statement about
>> whether Silver DT shifters pull enough cable, because they may not for the
>> MTB Dyna-Sys rear derailleurs that some favor for the larger gear capacity
>> and chain wrap.
>>
>> On Wednesday, February 10, 2021 at 2:01:43 PM UTC-8 Andrew Turner wrote:
>>
>>> I'm sure to most, this is a 'no duh' situation but throwing my hat in
>>> for the approval vote regardless. If there are any die-hard 9 speed
>>> friction fans out there like me, this might be of interest.
>>> Before I thought:
>>>
>>> A) the Silver DT shifters don't pull enough cable to fit 11 speed
>>> B) I'd be spending the majority of the ride feathering the gears
>>>
>>> Wrong and wrong. It works shockingly well, perhaps even better than 8-9
>>> speeds perhaps because there's simply less room to mess it up. Now I
>>> probably wouldn't enjoy it as much with shifters that didn't utilize the
>>> ratcheting system since I can feel how the ratchet sorta auto-corrects the
>>> right engagement point when I'm changing gears but that's a topic of
>>> personal taste.
>>>
>>> My setup is an Ultegra 6800 long cage rear mech, 11 speed chain, 11-34
>>> 105 cassette, and a Grand Cru 50.4 46-30 crankset.
>>>
>>> Obviously the downside of all this is cost but if anyone was building up
>>> something new and was 11 speed friction curious, give it a shot!
>>>
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[RBW] Re: My Rambouillet Build

[Jay LePree]

Ben:  That is beautiful.  I have one of the last orange white 54 cm that we 
sold.  (I purchased it in 2003).  I have been looking for a painter.  Where 
did you have your bike painted?  How did you get the new decals?

Jay
Demarest, NJ

On Friday, February 12, 2021 at 5:31:58 PM UTC-5 Ben Miller wrote:

> Hello Fellow RBW Owners,
>
> Wanted to do a little update on my Rambouillet build in progress, now that 
> it is actually taking form.
>
> First, a little bit of background. I've been lucky enough to have built up 
> four (4!) Riv bikes already, but this is really shaping up to be a truly 
> unique one for me. This Ram’s story started (for me) way back in late 2017 
> with me purchasing it off fellow list member Keith as a F/F/HS. 
> Unfortunately a number of not so great life events happened shortly after 
> that, including fracturing my leg, taking me off the bike for nearly 6 
> months. The frame moved with me down a new path in life, but mostly 
> collected dust in my garage. Not forgotten or abandoned, but definitely a 
> bit lonely while I worked on 2 more bikes that were more recently acquired. 
> During this time I quietly acquired used parts and ideas that eventually 
> coalesced into a build for the Rambouillet.
>
> The Ram frame itself is 64 cm painted with a beautiful sage green with a 
> bit of pearl iridescent to it. It has a couple of small paint chips on the 
> non-drive side seatstay, but otherwise in pristine condition. It was 
> included with a Tange headset.
>
> Previous Rivendell builds had mostly involved me purchasing brand new 
> components (not having a large parts bin to work off of), I think these 
> builds were still fun and interesting, but really been driven by new or 
> recent bike component technology. My vision for the Ram build is really to 
> focus on used/vintage/NOS stock parts as much as possible, but also fun and 
> practical to me. I know, not a revolutionary design principle, but this is 
> my first time executing it.
>
> The heart of this began around the idea of setting it up as a DT friction 
> shifting using a vintage Huret Duopar Eco I got off eBay. The Duopar was 
> originally introduced in 1975 with the Eco being released in 1981. These 40 
> year old derailleurs were originally intended for 6 speed freewheel, but 
> through the magic of friction shifting and a little finessing, seem to work 
> just fine with a 9 speed cassette. The big thing about the Duopar is it was 
> one of first (perhaps the first?) derailluer to handle up to a 36t cog and 
> 40 teeth of chainwrap. My understanding is that these RD’s are slightly 
> controversial in terms of either loving or hating them (lots is said about 
> their maintenance issues), but part of this was trying to find out for 
> myself. As I am just starting to learn about these derailleurs, it’d be 
> nice to hear from others about their experience!
>
> Over the last couple of days I’ve been able to get the Duopar dialed in 
> and shift through a Shimano HG 11-36 cassette using Silver DT shifters and 
> paired with a Sugino triple that I converted to 44/30. Today I finished 
> mounting a pair of Paul Racer centerpulls that I got off a list member and 
> got strung together to the NOS Mafac levers I got off eBay. These are 
> mounted on the Crust Shaka bars (my new favorite bars), which is so far the 
> only brand new part on this build besides the Velo Orange seatpost (I did 
> have a vintage seatpost I had been planning on using, but the mounting 
> plates have a lot of corrosion that is preventing them from providing a 
> tight hold). With brakes on and functional, I was able to take it out and 
> test the shifting in real conditions. And I have to say, it feels really 
> nice, couldn’t be happier at this point.
>
> The eventual plan is to swap the 700c wheels for 650b (but the 650b wheels 
> that I had planned to go on here ended up on my girlfriends Rambouillet!) 
> and put on 42mm BSP’s.
>
> I know this is a long write-up, but it’s been a long road to this build. 
> But it is finally nearing culmination. I have to say, what a time to be 
> alive and into bikes, with so many different options and ways to approach a 
> bike build. I feel pretty lucky and excited for how this is gonna turn 
> out!  
>

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[RBW] Re: 11 speed with Silver DT shifters works great!

[lconley]

I just set up the shifting on my Riv Custom this weekend. I am using Silver 
1 shifters with the shiny silver washer covers from Silver 2 shifters 
covering the black plastic washer. The shifters are mounted on the 
braze-ons on the headtube. The derailleurs are Campagnolo Athena 11s (all 
silver in color). The cassette is a Dura-Ace (12-28) 11 speed as is the 
chain (actually it required links from 2 chains - long chainstays). The 
crank is a Rene Herse 42-26 11 speed. Everything works together great. It 
requires close to 180 degrees of shifter travel for the rear derailleur but 
that makes it easier to find all 11 speeds. The silver 2s would require 
less shifter rotation, but they are kind of big and ugly as a frame shifter.
Now on to making the Rene Herse brakes play well with the Velocity Quill 
rims - the Rene Herse brake pads are 10mm wide and the braking surface on 
the Quills is 8mm wide. Either surgery on the pads or order Kool Stop 
smooth post Cross pads (7.5 mm wide).

Laing
Mixing and matching in Delray Beach FL


On Saturday, February 13, 2021 at 12:39:46 AM UTC-5 Benz Ouyang, Sunnyvale, 
CA wrote:

> One should note that Shimano’s 11-speed *MTB* rear derailleurs require 
> more cable pull to shift over 11 speeds than Shimano’s own 11-speed *road* 
> rear derailleurs, like your Ultegra 6800. The difference is not trivial and 
> exceeds 20%. Thus, one needs to qualify one’s statement about whether 
> Silver DT shifters pull enough cable, because they may not for the MTB 
> Dyna-Sys rear derailleurs that some favor for the larger gear capacity and 
> chain wrap.
>
> On Wednesday, February 10, 2021 at 2:01:43 PM UTC-8 Andrew Turner wrote:
>
>> I'm sure to most, this is a 'no duh' situation but throwing my hat in for 
>> the approval vote regardless. If there are any die-hard 9 speed friction 
>> fans out there like me, this might be of interest. 
>> Before I thought: 
>>
>> A) the Silver DT shifters don't pull enough cable to fit 11 speed
>> B) I'd be spending the majority of the ride feathering the gears 
>>
>> Wrong and wrong. It works shockingly well, perhaps even better than 8-9 
>> speeds perhaps because there's simply less room to mess it up. Now I 
>> probably wouldn't enjoy it as much with shifters that didn't utilize the 
>> ratcheting system since I can feel how the ratchet sorta auto-corrects the 
>> right engagement point when I'm changing gears but that's a topic of 
>> personal taste. 
>>
>> My setup is an Ultegra 6800 long cage rear mech, 11 speed chain, 11-34 
>> 105 cassette, and a Grand Cru 50.4 46-30 crankset.  
>>
>> Obviously the downside of all this is cost but if anyone was building up 
>> something new and was 11 speed friction curious, give it a shot! 
>>
>

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Re: [RBW] Happy Valentine’s Day: Triple hearts for you!

[Leah Peterson]

Joyce, you’re a trooper! I love the photo and I’m glad you pointed out the sign 
language because I’d have missed that endearing detail. 
#RivSisters,
Leah

Sent from my iPad

> On Feb 14, 2021, at 10:26 PM, JAS  wrote:
> 
> 
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> Snow buddies have hearts too.  Love that Clem!  (It’s hard to see, but the 
> gloves are signing “I love you!”). 
> 
> —Joyce, from the snowy NW
> 
> 
>> On Sunday, February 14, 2021 at 1:16:08 PM UTC-8 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPad
>> 
 On Feb 14, 2021, at 1:15 PM, Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
  wrote:
 
>>> Happy Valentine’s Day! Every year I send Betty Foy hearts on this forum, 
>>> but this year, you get Platy hearts. Coming to you in the 2nd post, and 
>>> hopefully not sideways. 
>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> We started the day off with a ride into town for coffee. We dashed home 
>>> with breakfast burritos in tow to enjoy with the boys, and not even my 
>>> husband’s flat tire could ruin our fun. 
>>> 
>>> Have a lovely day, everyone. I wish you bike rides and chocolate.
>>> 
>>> Leah
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[RBW] WTB Roadini 54

[Doug H.]

I'm looking for a road bike for long rides. Would buy a complete, partial, 
or frame.
Doug

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