[RBW] Re: My First Riv! A Romulus.

[Rick Urbanowski]

Congratulations!!!
Me too, about 6 weeks ago. 
Same bike, but mine has the townie bars
On Monday, August 23, 2021 at 6:07:44 PM UTC-4 Amit Singh wrote:

> Congratulations !!! 
>
> Wishing you tailwinds, and many, many years of happy riding!
>
> On Monday, August 23, 2021 at 10:34:54 AM UTC-7 mrb wrote:
>
>> From the collection of the legendary Larry Black!
>>
>> [image: IMG_7660.JPG.jpeg]
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Re: [RBW] Re: Ride Report: 2021 Rivendell Bicycle Works Appreciation Pedalpalooza Ride

[Emily Guise]

Joyce, if you’re in the Portland area and can join that would be fantastic! I’d 
love to meet you IRL and we could #PlatyPose together 

-Emily

> On Aug 22, 2021, at 1:13 PM, JAS  wrote:
> Emily and Greg, thank you for organizing this ride and for sharing the 
> news/photos.  I will look forward to your next event; I'd love to join you on 
> my Platypus wearing wool on a cool fall day. 
> 
> 
>> On Sunday, August 22, 2021 at 10:13:17 AM UTC-7 Jimmy Warren wrote:
>> 
>> The Jackalope!
>> 
>> 
 On Aug 22, 2021, at 9:29 AM, Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
  wrote:
>>> Thank you for sharing the photos and therefore letting us look in on this 
>>> fun event! I would have loved to attend - looks like you guys had a nice 
>>> turnout and a great time. Two Platypuses and a coral Hunq! Wow!
>> 
>>> 
>>> 
> On Saturday, August 21, 2021 at 9:21:50 PM UTC-7 Emily Guise wrote:
> This past Saturday, my partner Greg and I led the RBW Appreciation 
> Pedalpalooza Ride in Portland, OR. Pedalpalooza is a regular summer event 
> here and it's basically fun bike rides about anything, led by anyone. 
> Usually it's only in June but this year it was June-August. It has been 
> so fun this summer and a great way to feel connected to the bike 
> community during COVID. It's meant a lot to me this year.
> 
> Greg  and I noticed there wasn't a Riv-themed ride like there had been in 
>  years past, so we decided to lead one! It was so hot and muggy on  
> Saturday, so we weren't sure how many people would come, but I was so  
> happy to see about 30 folks waiting for us at the start point in Creston  
> Park. After saying hi to people and admiring bikes, we had a round of  
> Riv trivia before heading to Coffee Beer for refreshments. Then we biked  
> along the Willamette River, with another trivia stop on the Esplanade.
> 
> Meandering  up to N Williams Ave, we had a shade stop at Dawson Park, 
> then rode up  to Golden Pliers for refreshments and to visit our local 
> Riv dealer.  Kevin and Becky are absolutely the best and they were so 
> excited to see  all the bikes. I was super excited to cool off in the AC 
> in the shop for  a bit!
> 
> At this point, we were down to about 10 people (as expected-we'd ridden 
> about 9 miles in mid-90s mugginess) but we had our last round of trivia 
> and then a few of us rode  to the Skidmore Bluffs to enjoy our drinks and 
> hang out in the shade.
> 
> Overall  everything went so much better than I hoped! Riv people are 
> really so nice, and this group was no exception. I got to meet a lot of 
> folks IRL  that I knew from online, and even the leader of previous 
> Riv-themed  rides. Greg and I are already planning on doing another Riv 
> ride in the fall and I really hope it will not be so hot so we can all 
> wear our wool. :)
> 
> Link to check out photos of the ride!
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Re: [RBW] To My Platypus People!

[Philip Barrett]

Rode the Platy late this afternoon, temperatures were hitting the triple 
digits, the wind out of the South felt like you'd opened the oven door to 
check on the pie and I was soaked through with sweat. At one point I looked 
down & saw that curly heart cut in the head tube lug and it made me smile 
for the rest of the ride.

That's all there is to this story but I wanted to share anyway.

On Tuesday, June 15, 2021 at 1:21:30 PM UTC-5 Joe Bernard wrote:

> Emily, this is so cool 
>
>
> On Tuesday, June 15, 2021 at 10:40:11 AM UTC-7 Emily Guise wrote:
>
>> My Platypus has earned my cat’s approval-she sleeps under it all the time!
>>
>> -Emily
>>
>>
>>
>> On Jun 15, 2021, at 6:28 AM, Leah Peterson  wrote:
>>
>> I’m interested in Cheviot vs Platy ride differences, too! So glad you 
>> got your Platys, Sam and Roberta. Keep those photos coming.
>>
>>
>> I love this thread; I hope it continues with Platypodes in perpetuity. 
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Jun 14, 2021, at 9:43 PM, Roberta  wrote:
>>
>> Welcome back, Sam.  I'm sure it'll be great.  I'm very curious how you 
>> feel about the ride Platy vs Chev.  The Platy in my 55cm size has a 2 inch 
>> longer wheelbase!  I have to be careful moving mine around my living room, 
>> but I think it makes up for that with the ride.  I had considered a Chev in 
>> the past.
>>
>> On Monday, June 14, 2021 at 10:47:09 PM UTC-4 CoalTrain wrote:
>>
>>> Howdy folks. After a three year Rivendell hiatus, the last bike was a 
>>> Cheviot, I managed to find one 60cm Platypus up north at C Cyclery in 
>>> Quebec. It arrived today and is being frame saved and tanned out back. 
>>> Can't wait to build it up! The green matches great with my mustard Crust 
>>> Romancuer! I love that Riv finally did a Mixte with Canti studs.  -Sam
>>>
>>> [image: tempImage4J342J.bmp]
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sunday, June 13, 2021 at 9:20:08 PM UTC-5 joseph...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>
 Tom, 
 I think its a great use of space.  I do a 48oz bottle in the same place 
 as your pump, 64oz bottle down low and 140oz bladder in framebag along 
 with 
 all necessary tools for long tours.  I recently added some Honjo Flat 80's 
 (not pictured) and the 48oz still fits
 [image: IMG_7105.jpg]


 On Thursday, June 10, 2021 at 11:46:49 AM UTC-5 duh...@gmail.com wrote:

> I'll be here all week.
>
> On Jun 10, 2021, at 9:10 AM, Jason Fuller  wrote:
>
> 
>
> "Like a Riv-Nut?"
>
> ba-dum c
>
> On Thu, Jun 10, 2021 at 8:33 AM Jared Wilson  wrote:
>
>> Like a Riv-Nut?
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Jun 10, 2021, at 8:32 AM, Jon Dukeman  
>> wrote:
>>
>> 
>> Your local bike shop should have the tool and bosses to do that. They 
>> drill a hole and install the bosses like a pop rivet only better.
>> Jon
>>
>> On Thu, Jun 10, 2021, 8:50 AM Jason Fuller  
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I have been wishing Riv would put water bottle bosses back there on 
>>> frames that a bottle would fit, ie the Appaloosa!  I think it's a great 
>>> use 
>>> of space 
>>>
>>> On Wed, Jun 9, 2021 at 6:12 PM Tom  wrote:
>>>
 Ok, I added a bottle mount for my pump in the rear triangle. I used 
 the VO water bottle clamps.  Thoughts? Dumb idea?  Pictures 
 https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1lY7JGXQ2YdMN5OKLv3Tr3c0tCQCgEEDz

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Re: [RBW] Cycles Grand Bois Centerpulls vs Tektro R559

[Nick Payne]

On Tuesday, 24 August 2021 at 9:02:59 am UTC+10 Eric Daume wrote:

> I've never used the GB brake, but I've found the R559 to be particularly 
> weak. The long arms flex so much, I had to set the pads at the very bottom 
> of the brake track so the brake pads wouldn't hit the tire as the arms 
> flexed up during a stop. And in the wet, they barely stop at all.
>
That opinion is nonsense. I've been using the R559, and it's predecessor 
the R556, for 20-odd years, and haven't had any problems with brake flex or 
being unable to stop, including touring in high mountains.

Nick

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Re: [RBW] Cycles Grand Bois Centerpulls vs Tektro R559

[Paul Richardson]

i can't speak to the direct comparison, but i've been riding 559s on my 
homer hilsen for a decade without a complaint.  i find them perfectly able, 
even in the rain or on questionable / mountain bikey terrain (the kind of 
rides where people ask my least favorite question: "how are you making out 
on *that thing*?")

you might look into the paul racer as a centerpull option?  i've only used 
the racer m, but it's a mighty fine brake, in my opinion.

good luck
paul
takoma park, md.

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Re: [RBW] Cycles Grand Bois Centerpulls vs Tektro R559

[Eric Daume]

I've never used the GB brake, but I've found the R559 to be particularly
weak. The long arms flex so much, I had to set the pads at the very bottom
of the brake track so the brake pads wouldn't hit the tire as the arms
flexed up during a stop. And in the wet, they barely stop at all.

Super long reach brakes are a bad design. There is a reason Riv is moving
towards V brakes on their new frames.

Eric

On Mon, Aug 23, 2021 at 1:34 PM Brenton Eastman 
wrote:

> Hi all,
> I bought my Sam Hillborne built up with Grand Bois centerpulls (with the
> stirrup for mounting on the brakes bridge, not posts). I have been sort of
> disappointed/concerned by the stopping power. I take my Sam all over the
> place, and probably descend on some trails that blur the line of MTB
> territory. I have seen people with Sams (sans canti posts) running tetro
> R559, and Riv's own site sells them. I'm just wondering if making the swap
> would buy me some stopping power. The Grand Bois brakes are beautiful, and
> twice the cost of the tektro, but I would prefer some downhill peace of
> mind over prestige and good looks. Anyone have opinions or experience with
> either/both?
> Thanks,
> Brent
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Re: [RBW] Cycles Grand Bois Centerpulls vs Tektro R559

[Nick Payne]

On Tuesday, 24 August 2021 at 4:52:29 am UTC+10 ttoshi wrote:

> The R559s work much better than Diacompe 750s (in my hands), but I don't 
> have experience with the GBs.  The Compass/Mafac do really well too, but I 
> haven't had those on the same bike as R559s to do a direct comparison.
>

I can't say I notice a difference between the R559 and 750 brakes. My 
Tournesol has an R559 front caliper and 750 rear caliper, and they feel 
pretty much the same to me, with much the same braking effect for the same 
hand pressure. Koolstop salmon pads on both, and the brake levers are 
Campagnolo.

Nick

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[RBW] Re: My First Riv! A Romulus.

[Amit Singh]

Congratulations !!! 

Wishing you tailwinds, and many, many years of happy riding!

On Monday, August 23, 2021 at 10:34:54 AM UTC-7 mrb wrote:

> From the collection of the legendary Larry Black!
>
> [image: IMG_7660.JPG.jpeg]

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Re: [RBW] Cycles Grand Bois Centerpulls vs Tektro R559

[Toshi Takeuchi]

The R559s work much better than Diacompe 750s (in my hands), but I don't
have experience with the GBs.  The Compass/Mafac do really well too, but I
haven't had those on the same bike as R559s to do a direct comparison.

Toshi


On Mon, Aug 23, 2021 at 10:34 AM Brenton Eastman 
wrote:

> Hi all,
> I bought my Sam Hillborne built up with Grand Bois centerpulls (with the
> stirrup for mounting on the brakes bridge, not posts). I have been sort of
> disappointed/concerned by the stopping power. I take my Sam all over the
> place, and probably descend on some trails that blur the line of MTB
> territory. I have seen people with Sams (sans canti posts) running tetro
> R559, and Riv's own site sells them. I'm just wondering if making the swap
> would buy me some stopping power. The Grand Bois brakes are beautiful, and
> twice the cost of the tektro, but I would prefer some downhill peace of
> mind over prestige and good looks. Anyone have opinions or experience with
> either/both?
> Thanks,
> Brent
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[RBW] FS: Surly Front Rack + Wald 139 Basket

[Jonah Cohn]

Silver Surly Front Rack in excellent shape. Includes all original hardware. 
$100

Wald 139 basket $15

$110 for both 

BAY AREA local pick up only (for now)


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Re: [RBW] Perfect high-tech dirt road riding shoes

[Gabriel DeFelippis]

Birkenstocks have been my go-to for summer riding. I have the suede 
versions that are probably better than the thicker leather ones.
I'd like to keep this going as long as I can so I'll need to get the wool 
socks out soonish.

On Saturday, August 21, 2021 at 1:00:04 PM UTC-4 Patrick Moore wrote:

> These Target shoes are pretty wide and big for the marked size; again, 10 
> fits looser on my medium width foot than an 11 in the mountain bike shoes, 
> both tried with winter socks. And, $19.99.
>
> On Fri, Aug 20, 2021 at 9:18 PM Mike Packard  wrote:
>
>> I like the simple canvas sneakers too, but usually find them too narrow. 
>> I recently learned that some Converse and Vans now come in wide; I got the 
>> Converse and they make nice riding shoes. (Closer to $60 but still cheaper 
>> than 510s).
>>
>> Mike
>>
>>
>> On Friday, August 20, 2021 at 12:31:34 PM UTC-5 Benjamin Kelley wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks.
>>> Looked on their site,  they appear to be the Men's Park Sneakers by 
>>> Goodfellow & Co.
>>>
>>> On Fri, Aug 20, 2021 at 12:27 PM Patrick Moore  
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Target, my good man. Always Target.

 Patrick "Target never lets you down" Moore, who has no more details to 
 give, alas. They were hanging on hooks, looked like what I want, and after 
 trying them on, I paid for them.

 On Fri, Aug 20, 2021 at 11:25 AM Benjamin L. Kelley <
 benjami...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Details on these shoes?   They sort of look like the Chrome Truk 
> sneaker, but less aggressive on the side sole and thicker around the 
> ankles.
>
> --ben
>
> On Fri, Aug 20, 2021 at 12:08 PM Patrick Moore  
> wrote:
>
>> I spent over $200 on shoes (Five Ten, $150) and pedals ($50+, 
>> recommended by experts) for "no retention" pedaling, and hated both 
>> pedals 
>> and shoes, so I did the usual and sold them -- as always -- at a loss 
>> with 
>> ~50 miles on them.
>>
>> I went back to the ol' reliable MKS Esprit pedal, 
>> semi-platform/semi-rat trap, with XL/X Deep MKS clips, and for the shoes 
>> I 
>> just paid $19.99 + tax for these hi-tek babies. Somewhat like my 
>> general-wear boat shoes but with lace-up vamps to keep the dirt out.
>>
>> These will slide into and out of the straps very easily, be very 
>> sufficiently supported by the large pedal body and retained sufficiently 
>> by 
>> the serrations, be easy to walk in, and look minimally decent (dust 
>> colored, too).
>>
>> Live 'n' learn.
>>
>>
>>
>>
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[RBW] Re: Proto-Clem L?

[Paul M]

Looks like proto-Bosco style handlebars also.

On Thursday, 19 August 2021 at 20:04:21 UTC-7 Gill wrote:

> Out for a ride passed a yard sale and saw this bike. I thought it showed a 
> strong family resemblance to the Clem I was riding: maybe a great 
> grandfather on the mother’s side. No name could I find and there was no one 
> around to ask but quick research suggests it could be an Elgin from the 
> 1940’s? And apparently that’s a skirt guard on the rear fender. Anyhow if 
> anyone knows vintage bicycles and can identify I’d be curious to know. 

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[RBW] Cycles Grand Bois Centerpulls vs Tektro R559

[Brenton Eastman]

Hi all,
I bought my Sam Hillborne built up with Grand Bois centerpulls (with the 
stirrup for mounting on the brakes bridge, not posts). I have been sort of 
disappointed/concerned by the stopping power. I take my Sam all over the 
place, and probably descend on some trails that blur the line of MTB 
territory. I have seen people with Sams (sans canti posts) running tetro 
R559, and Riv's own site sells them. I'm just wondering if making the swap 
would buy me some stopping power. The Grand Bois brakes are beautiful, and 
twice the cost of the tektro, but I would prefer some downhill peace of 
mind over prestige and good looks. Anyone have opinions or experience with 
either/both? 
Thanks, 
Brent

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[RBW] WTB: Nitto Albatross Bars

[Jacob Smith]

On the hunt for nitto albatross bars - ideally heat-treated alu vs CrMo but 
could go either way. Final piece for finishing up an Atlantis build. 

Anyone holding? Ideally in Bay Area. 

Cheers, 
Jacob

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[RBW] Re: FS Nitto Campee Rear Rack 33R

[Brenton Eastman]

Sold!

On Friday, August 20, 2021 at 9:32:52 AM UTC-7 André P wrote:

> Don't need the rack, but great photo!
> On Friday, August 13, 2021 at 12:09:28 PM UTC-7 brenton...@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>
>> Testing the waters since this is sold out with no ETA, maybe someone 
>> wants it more than me. I have mounted it and used it only a couple times, 
>> just as a top carrier for a skateboard, and as a support for my baggabond. 
>> No panniers, no drops, no damage. I'd like $200 plus shipping. All 
>> hardware, instruction booklet, extra struts, original everything, included.
>>
>> [image: Screen Shot 2021-08-02 at 9.08.40 PM.png]
>>
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[RBW] Re: FS Nitto Campee Rear Rack 33R

[Brenton Eastman]

SOLD

On Friday, August 20, 2021 at 9:32:52 AM UTC-7 André P wrote:

> Don't need the rack, but great photo!
> On Friday, August 13, 2021 at 12:09:28 PM UTC-7 brenton...@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>
>> Testing the waters since this is sold out with no ETA, maybe someone 
>> wants it more than me. I have mounted it and used it only a couple times, 
>> just as a top carrier for a skateboard, and as a support for my baggabond. 
>> No panniers, no drops, no damage. I'd like $200 plus shipping. All 
>> hardware, instruction booklet, extra struts, original everything, included.
>>
>> [image: Screen Shot 2021-08-02 at 9.08.40 PM.png]
>>
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[RBW] Re: Brevets on Rivs -- 2021 Dillon Beach 200k

[Miles]

Nice write up Bill,

Adam, like you, I find I also need a bit more fuel than what Bill was 
carrying. For me, electrolytes are crucial, I seem to get cramps pretty 
easily. I’ve been a big fan of Nuun hydration tabs. 

Food-wise, Clif or Ivan bars are always good, but sometimes I also like to 
bring a pb sandwich, or some other “real” food. I’m guilty of going full 
gas-station nutrition and eating beef sticks and peanut m’s, probably to 
my detriment. I think my ideal century has a proper lunch stop about 
halfway through. Maybe a good burrito or a sandwich, and a stretching 
session before getting back on the road. 

On Monday, August 16, 2021 at 8:48:38 AM UTC-7 Adam wrote:

> Thanks for the report.
>
> I'm curious to hear about your and others' nutrition strategies. I've not 
> ridden a 200k yet but plan to soon. On rides longer than 100k or so, I find 
> that I need eat way more than you describe. I totally over ate on a century 
> a few months ago and got a bit sick post ride(no more pizza!) Since then 
> I've not had time to do another century, but on 50-70 mile rides I've been 
> trying to snack throughout the ride, esp early, and that works for me.
>
> Any suggestions from folks when doing rides long enough to require a meal?
>
> Adam
>
> On Monday, August 16, 2021 at 9:10:25 AM UTC-5 Bill Lindsay wrote:
>
>> Yesterday was brevet day, and it was my 29th career 200k brevet, but my 
>> first on a "road bike".  From the start I've always had one or more "rando 
>> builds" from which to choose, and so I've always ridden one of those 
>> machines.  I always had mixed feelings towards those randos who strap a 
>> bunch of afterthought bags to their carbon road bikes.  Are they cheating 
>> on a race bike?  Will they be suffering because of their skinny tires?  
>> This time, with the weather warm, the pavement decent, and the course not 
>> too hilly, I decided to give the whole road bike brevet thing a try.  
>>
>> The field was tiny, allegedly 8 riders.  I only saw five of them at the 
>> start; the Escape From Alcatraz Race occupied the parking lot where we 
>> intended to start and the volunteer who takes the sign ins couldn't get 
>> there in his car.  The six of us were prepared to collect EPP (Electronic 
>> Proof of Passage) and started our GPS units and headed out.  Bless his 
>> heart the start control volunteer later found me on the route and took my 
>> signature there, explaining I wouldn't get credit without having signed the 
>> waiver.  
>>
>> The weather was in the mid 50s and foggy at the start as we crossed the 
>> Golden Gate Bridge.  The cross winds that would continue all day were very 
>> light in the morning and would be far stronger in the afternoon, which was 
>> advantageous.  The course headed mainly into a headwind while the winds 
>> were weak and returned with a tailwind while the winds strengthened.  I did 
>> most of the ride solo, and I believe I was probably the second finisher.  
>> One rider who went out fast on the first climb of the day, I passed buying 
>> mangoes at a fruitstand late in the afternoon.  One rider who blew past me 
>> was on a current A Homer Hilsen, and he cheerfully said "Nice Bike!" as his 
>> youthful strong legs propelled him down the road.  
>>
>> My early vintage Roadeo did exceedingly well.  I had a slight panic when 
>> I realized that I did not pack gloves, so it was also my first barehanded 
>> 200k.  The only inconvenience that ended up causing was it give me another 
>> place to apply sunscreen, and with no gloves my slick sunscreened fingers 
>> were a little bit slippy on my shellacked bar tape and hoods.  Overall not 
>> a big problem.  
>>
>> From a handling and comfort perspective, the bike was exceptional.  My 
>> back, arms and shoulders felt great all day.  Mechanically the bike was 
>> perfect.  I don't think I ever needed to use my lowest gear, despite some 
>> steep pitches.  I went out pretty fast in the first half but backed off a 
>> little on the wind-aided return when I noticed the smell of wildfire smoke 
>> in the air.  It was nowhere near the worst I've seen, and the consistent 
>> west to east crosswinds certainly helped clean things out for this coastal 
>> route.  I finished the 127 miles, 7300ft of climbing in 9:22 actual, 8:37 
>> moving.  Anything under 10 hours is quick for me.  
>>
>> As per usual, the only things I would change about a Roadeo to make it an 
>> even more perfect brevet bike would have been a tiny bit wider tires.  I'm 
>> running 700x32 Stampede Pass Extralights, and would have loved to enjoy 35s 
>> or 38s.  I still think a semi-custom Roadeo with cantilever brakes and a 
>> tiny bit wider clearances would be tremendous.  I'll test that theory by 
>> doing my next brevet on my Legolas with 700x35 Bon Jon Pass Extralights, in 
>> September.  With the skinny tires, I did notice the bumps, particularly at 
>> the end of the day, and my tush was definitely a bit sore with my firm 
>> Fizik 

Re: [RBW] V-brakes needed or a recommendation

[Mathieu Brown]

Good morning Ray,

Having spoken with The Team as my Platypus build comes together (with 700c
x 47 tires and fenders) my understanding is that clearance is the main
consideration. I personally went with Deore V brakes, based on their
recommendation (which cost a little bit more but not much) (and I know
Deore brakes are not available a-la carte on the site ))

I imagine that Alvio's should work just fine - especially at the price
point. It might not hurt to give the office a call tomorrow morning, if
clearance is a concern.

Happy to hear from someone with additional experience.

MATHIEU BROWN



On Sun, Aug 15, 2021 at 11:24 AM Ray Varella 
wrote:

> I’m in need of a set (bike’s worth) of V-brakes.
> I see Rivendell has Alivo level brakes for $20 per wheel
> Is there a compelling reason not to use them?
>
> If so, any recommendation on a budget level brake that works well?
>
> Thank you
> Ray
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Re: [RBW] Re: Second ride in our new locale, first ride for the Hunq

[Miles]

Good stuff Ariel! Both bikes are looking so good. Stoked to get out and 
ride with you two!

On Friday, August 13, 2021 at 3:31:19 PM UTC-7 Ian A wrote:

> Leah says it best, but those are great photos. What a beautiful part of 
> the world to live in and enjoy by bicycle. 
>
> IanA Alberta Canada
>
> On Friday, August 13, 2021 at 4:25:14 PM UTC-6 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
> wrote:
>
>> You cool cat, you! These are great photos - and you are so right, the 
>> bikes look so unique together. I love this so much! And the new 
>> surroundings are gorgeous. I’m so jealous of that peaceful scenery and the 
>> fact that it must be cool enough to wear long sleeves and pants. It is 
>> triple digits here in Vegas and not going to let up anytime soon. 
>>
>> Thank you so much for the fun glimpse into your riding life. Your Platy 
>> looks great on you!
>> Leah
>>
>> Sent from my iPad
>>
>> On Aug 13, 2021, at 3:20 PM, Ariel Jiana Fenster  
>> wrote:
>>
>> 
>>
>>
>> 
>>
>> On Friday, August 13, 2021 at 3:19:37 PM UTC-7 Ariel Jiana Fenster wrote:
>>
>>> [image: IMG_0542.jpeg]
>>>
>>> On Friday, August 13, 2021 at 3:19:11 PM UTC-7 Ariel Jiana Fenster wrote:
>>>
 [image: IMG_0522.jpeg]


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[RBW] Re: Marin Larkspur - any thoughts?

[David Person]

Russ (Path Less Pedaled) did a review a few months ago.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yIpOLmO-Oic=459s

On Monday, August 23, 2021 at 5:08:00 AM UTC-7 Johnny Alien wrote:

> stell frame, lots of clearance and 650B wheels seems like a nice setup. I 
> never rode one but my guess is that it could be a great bike if your wife 
> is comfortable on it. The 1x setup is pretty good with a wide range of 
> gears and they are using a sunrace cassette which have better gearing than 
> Shimano does.
>
> On Monday, August 23, 2021 at 8:01:15 AM UTC-4 john...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Hello all,
>>
>> My LBS has a Marin Larkspur 2 in stock. When I saw it in the shop, my 
>> first thought 
>> was that it's a knock-off of the Clem-L or Platypus. 
>>
>> https://www.marinbikes.com/bikes/family/larkspur
>>
>> I'm interested in this bike because my wife has expressed an interest in 
>> gravel riding/easy mountain biking, and this looks like a relatively 
>> accessible way to get into it. A Rivendell isn't really feasible due to us 
>> being in Belgium, the way Rivs sell out within minutes of going online, 
>> etc. etc. 
>>
>> There's a short review of the Larkspur on Path Less Pedalled, seems quite 
>> positive and gives the impression that it's quite well suited for what my 
>> wife wants her bikes to do - utility with a bit of off road at the weekends.
>>
>> My other idea was to find an old mixte/low instep mountain bike frame and 
>> do it up as a PPR (Poor Person's Riv), but all the ones I found so far are 
>> pretty nasty low end mid-90's BSOs, and all in stupidly small sizes for 
>> some reason. It's easy to find quite nice Mixte frames, but they tend to 
>> have limited tyre clearance so they probably won't work so well off road. I 
>> think it'd be less trouble to just go for the Larkspur in this case. 
>>
>> Does anyone have any thoughts on the Marin?
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Johnny in Belgium
>>
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Re: [RBW] Want to find "rayon" or "viscose" men's shirts, short sleeves, woven or knit

[Patrick Moore]

Thanks, Paul.

On Mon, Aug 23, 2021 at 7:28 AM Paul Berk  wrote:
>
> The best Hawaiian shirts are rayon so I'd look here and see if anything 
> works. But a trim fit is tough to get as the traditional shirts are the 
> opposite. Of my several shirts, the one from Kalaheo has the best cut. 
> Customer service would be able to answer any question you have. They know 
> their products.
>
> www.alohashirtshop.com/
>
> On Sat, Aug 21, 2021 at 7:55 PM Patrick Moore  wrote:
>>
>> The web seems to have few and mostly in black and too big or small, so
>> perhaps someone can point me toward something that I like.
>>
>> I'm looking for rayon -- ie wood or bamboo or other plant fiber that
>> has been alchemically reduced to its component elements and then
>> transmuted into spinnable, weavable or knittable fiber -- shirts
>> suitable for riding. Criteria:
>>
>> 1. Pure rayon, or if not pure, with just a wee bit of cotton or anything 
>> else.
>>
>> 2. Light colors: white, off white, light blue, light tan, bland
>> yellow, soft orange, very muted green, cyan/teal, etc. No lilac or
>> mauve or rose.
>>
>> 3. Trim fit. I generally take a long medium, ie long but slender torso.
>>
>> 4. Knit -- polo shirt or even t shirt, or woven -- bush shirt cut,
>> straight bottom, not too long, to be worn tail-out.
>>
>> 5. Street wearable.
>>
>> 6. At least 1 chest pocket; better 2.
>>
>> If the shirts are knit, I'd be very interested to hear how well they
>> stand up to snagging and raveling.
>>
>> I used to own the world's largest collection of rayon Hawaiian shirts
>> from Goodwill, in both tasteful and repellant designs, and rode in
>> them for years. They are wonderful for very hot weather riding, but
>> were too baggy -- headwind sails.
>>
>> I don't want thin wool; I save wool for cool weather. And I don't want
>> synthetics chemically treated for odor resistance.
>>
>> Speaking of synthetics and odor: I presently use plastic knits and
>> weaves for hot weather riding, and if I start clean each time, I can
>> get ~2, 2-to-3 hour rides or rides+walking-around sessions out of
>> each, if I hang them up in between and occasionally spritz pits with a
>> mix of white vinegar and water. But as with wool, or even more so,
>> rayon never stinks.
>>
>> Patrick Moore, at the tail-end of the humid "monsoon" season in ABQ, NM%
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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Re: [RBW] Want to find "rayon" or "viscose" men's shirts, short sleeves, woven or knit

[Paul Berk]

The best Hawaiian shirts are rayon so I'd look here and see if anything
works. But a trim fit is tough to get as the traditional shirts are the
opposite. Of my several shirts, the one from Kalaheo has the best cut.
Customer service would be able to answer any question you have. They know
their products.

www.alohashirtshop.com/

On Sat, Aug 21, 2021 at 7:55 PM Patrick Moore  wrote:

> The web seems to have few and mostly in black and too big or small, so
> perhaps someone can point me toward something that I like.
>
> I'm looking for rayon -- ie wood or bamboo or other plant fiber that
> has been alchemically reduced to its component elements and then
> transmuted into spinnable, weavable or knittable fiber -- shirts
> suitable for riding. Criteria:
>
> 1. Pure rayon, or if not pure, with just a wee bit of cotton or anything
> else.
>
> 2. Light colors: white, off white, light blue, light tan, bland
> yellow, soft orange, very muted green, cyan/teal, etc. No lilac or
> mauve or rose.
>
> 3. Trim fit. I generally take a long medium, ie long but slender torso.
>
> 4. Knit -- polo shirt or even t shirt, or woven -- bush shirt cut,
> straight bottom, not too long, to be worn tail-out.
>
> 5. Street wearable.
>
> 6. At least 1 chest pocket; better 2.
>
> If the shirts are knit, I'd be very interested to hear how well they
> stand up to snagging and raveling.
>
> I used to own the world's largest collection of rayon Hawaiian shirts
> from Goodwill, in both tasteful and repellant designs, and rode in
> them for years. They are wonderful for very hot weather riding, but
> were too baggy -- headwind sails.
>
> I don't want thin wool; I save wool for cool weather. And I don't want
> synthetics chemically treated for odor resistance.
>
> Speaking of synthetics and odor: I presently use plastic knits and
> weaves for hot weather riding, and if I start clean each time, I can
> get ~2, 2-to-3 hour rides or rides+walking-around sessions out of
> each, if I hang them up in between and occasionally spritz pits with a
> mix of white vinegar and water. But as with wool, or even more so,
> rayon never stinks.
>
> Patrick Moore, at the tail-end of the humid "monsoon" season in ABQ, NM%
>
>
>
>
>
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[RBW] Re: Share More Riv Riding Pics

[Doug H.]

I am enjoying all of these photos but the one from Japan with the majestic 
old tree is fantastic. This seems appropriate for a Rivendell as I can 
imagine hobbits and elves lurking in the woods behind.
Doug
Athens, Ga

On Monday, August 23, 2021 at 4:56:25 AM UTC-4 John Rinker wrote:

> At the base of a 700+-year-old sugi (cedar) at a Shinto shrine along the 
> Doshi River in Japan.
> [image: IMG_7186.jpeg]
>
> On Monday, August 23, 2021 at 5:28:09 PM UTC+9 Nick Payne wrote:
>
>> Here's my Bleriot in the Victorian Alps. Photo taken about three quarters 
>> of the way up Mt Hotham from the Harrietville side:
>> [image: IMG_0102.JPG]
>>
>> Nick
>>
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Re: [RBW] Pauls Shimano Thumbies

[James Valiensi]

Scott. They sold a long time ago for asking price.

> On Aug 22, 2021, at 2:13 PM, Scott McLain  wrote:
> 
> Hi James,
> Are these still for sale?
> 
> Best, Scott
> 
> On Tuesday, July 6, 2021 at 8:57:06 AM UTC-6 James Valiensi wrote:
> Hi,
> Pauls Components thumb shifter mounts with Dura-Ace 9sp shifters. 
> The Dura-Ace shifters are a little beat up. Looks like the bike was turned 
> upside down to change a flat, several times, and the shifter tops were the 
> part that touched the ground. So, I couldn’t get the right one to go to index 
> mode. Both shifters seem to work in friction mode just fine. 
> The Paul's Thumbie mount appears in great shape. 
> 
> $80 - includes shipping and PP fees.
> 
> Best regards
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[RBW] Re: Marin Larkspur - any thoughts?

[Johnny Alien]

stell frame, lots of clearance and 650B wheels seems like a nice setup. I 
never rode one but my guess is that it could be a great bike if your wife 
is comfortable on it. The 1x setup is pretty good with a wide range of 
gears and they are using a sunrace cassette which have better gearing than 
Shimano does.

On Monday, August 23, 2021 at 8:01:15 AM UTC-4 john...@gmail.com wrote:

> Hello all,
>
> My LBS has a Marin Larkspur 2 in stock. When I saw it in the shop, my 
> first thought 
> was that it's a knock-off of the Clem-L or Platypus. 
>
> https://www.marinbikes.com/bikes/family/larkspur
>
> I'm interested in this bike because my wife has expressed an interest in 
> gravel riding/easy mountain biking, and this looks like a relatively 
> accessible way to get into it. A Rivendell isn't really feasible due to us 
> being in Belgium, the way Rivs sell out within minutes of going online, 
> etc. etc. 
>
> There's a short review of the Larkspur on Path Less Pedalled, seems quite 
> positive and gives the impression that it's quite well suited for what my 
> wife wants her bikes to do - utility with a bit of off road at the weekends.
>
> My other idea was to find an old mixte/low instep mountain bike frame and 
> do it up as a PPR (Poor Person's Riv), but all the ones I found so far are 
> pretty nasty low end mid-90's BSOs, and all in stupidly small sizes for 
> some reason. It's easy to find quite nice Mixte frames, but they tend to 
> have limited tyre clearance so they probably won't work so well off road. I 
> think it'd be less trouble to just go for the Larkspur in this case. 
>
> Does anyone have any thoughts on the Marin?
>
> Cheers,
> Johnny in Belgium
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[RBW] Marin Larkspur - any thoughts?

[Den John]

Hello all,

My LBS has a Marin Larkspur 2 in stock. When I saw it in the shop, my first 
thought 
was that it's a knock-off of the Clem-L or Platypus. 

https://www.marinbikes.com/bikes/family/larkspur

I'm interested in this bike because my wife has expressed an interest in 
gravel riding/easy mountain biking, and this looks like a relatively 
accessible way to get into it. A Rivendell isn't really feasible due to us 
being in Belgium, the way Rivs sell out within minutes of going online, 
etc. etc. 

There's a short review of the Larkspur on Path Less Pedalled, seems quite 
positive and gives the impression that it's quite well suited for what my 
wife wants her bikes to do - utility with a bit of off road at the weekends.

My other idea was to find an old mixte/low instep mountain bike frame and 
do it up as a PPR (Poor Person's Riv), but all the ones I found so far are 
pretty nasty low end mid-90's BSOs, and all in stupidly small sizes for 
some reason. It's easy to find quite nice Mixte frames, but they tend to 
have limited tyre clearance so they probably won't work so well off road. I 
think it'd be less trouble to just go for the Larkspur in this case. 

Does anyone have any thoughts on the Marin?

Cheers,
Johnny in Belgium

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