Re: [RBW] Bikes on eBay, CraigsLIst, and Other Sites

[Matthew Williams]

Please use the new CraigsList And Others thread:

https://groups.google.com/g/rbw-owners-bunch/c/ftDdAiVhOio

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Re: [RBW] New Craigslist/others thread

[Matthew Williams]

Rambouillet
58cm
$1000
Baton Rouge, LA
https://batonrouge.craigslist.org/bik/d/saint-francisville-rivendell-rambouillet/7385761283.html

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Re: [RBW] Stolen 50cm Betty Foy

[rltilley]

Sorry to hear that! Where did this happen in San Diego? I’ll keep an eye out.

Robert Tilley
San Diego, CA

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> On Oct 2, 2021, at 10:10 AM, Amy DeVaudreuil  wrote:
> 
> My beautiful Betty Foy bicycle was stolen from my garage last night. I am 
> filing a police report and monitoring local (San Diego) craigslist and Offer 
> Up, but in case anyone sees a 50cm Betty Foy for sale somewhere, please let 
> me know so I can track down if it's my bike.
> 
> Thank you!
> Amy DeVaudreuil
> amydevaudre...@gmail.com
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Re: [RBW] To My Platypus People!

[Roberta]

Congratulations. She's a beauty and I'm sure you'll be as happy as we (I) 
are (am) with our Platys. Looking forward to a writeup and pictures if you 
care to indulge us. 
Roberta Philadlelphia mermaid Platy  
On Saturday, October 2, 2021 at 5:36:42 PM UTC-4 sof...@gmail.com wrote:

> Thank you for the warm welcome here, and very happy to be your #RivSister! 
> I will happily post photos when my platy arrives! I'm not sure how long the 
> wait will be -- I am in Massachusetts outside of Boston...I'm willing to 
> wait... I still can't believe that I was lucky enough to nab this beauty!
>
> On Saturday, October 2, 2021 at 5:19:12 PM UTC-4 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
> wrote:
>
>> I just got home from work and realized we got a new #RivSister! Oh, how 
>> wonderful that you scored a Platy, Sofie. I really couldn’t be more excited 
>> for you. Please, please, please delight us with your write up and photos 
>> when the bike gets to you. How long before you expect to have it? 
>>
>> Thanks so much for chiming in. What a pleasure!
>> #RivSisters,
>> Leah
>>
>> Sent from my iPad
>>
>> On Oct 2, 2021, at 10:08 AM, Sofie C  wrote:
>>
>> Hello, new here, but I'm now the proud owner of the 50 cm lime olive 
>> Platypus that was just listed on web special! I had been preparing to try 
>> my luck at the Clem complete restock, but happened to be looking at my 
>> email when the newsletter came through last night, and I went for it. This 
>> is my first Riv, after being a long time admirer. I'm so silly excited I 
>> can hardly stand it!
>>
>>
>> [image: Screen Shot 2021-09-24 at 8.00.16 PM.png]
>>
>> On Sunday, September 19, 2021 at 1:58:27 PM UTC-4 Bicycle Belle Ding 
>> Ding! wrote:
>>
>>> Ha! I’d be honored, but I think it unlikely. But “Belle Bars” have a 
>>> nice ring to them… I wouldn’t object! 
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>> On Sep 19, 2021, at 10:20 AM, ascpgh  wrote:
>>>
>>> I think from the last Riv post that there is a handlebar soon to be 
>>> known more as a Platy or Leah bar. I mean really, Billie who?
>>>
>>>
>>> Andy Cheatham
>>> Pittsburgh
>>>
>>> On Saturday, September 18, 2021 at 7:01:31 PM UTC-5 Bicycle Belle Ding 
>>> Ding! wrote:
>>>
 It’s the Bike For All Reasons. The Bike of All Time.

 . It’s a gravel Platy. An errand Platy. A nighttime getaway Platy.

 What kind of Platypus to you have?
 Leah


 Sent from my iPad

 On Aug 30, 2021, at 7:06 AM, ascpgh  wrote:

 Leah wrote: "Oh my word. You’re right..."


 A modified (from someone's FB repost) list of the the three hardest 
 things to say:


1. I was wrong.
2. I need help.
3. Yes, that does make you look fat. 


 Andy Cheatham
 Pittsburgh

 On Sunday, August 29, 2021 at 9:35:20 AM UTC-5 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
 wrote:

> Oh my word. You’re right - I completely missed this. A secret Platypus!
>
> The only Platys I know of that deviated from the production run colors 
> were the samples, all of which we have seen. An orange, a silver and a 
> bronzey green.  I don’t know what this root beer one is all about but I’m 
> going to try and find out.
> L 
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> On Aug 29, 2021, at 5:46 AM, Eric Marth  wrote:
>
> 
>
> I noticed this bronze-cola Platypus in this week's Blahg. What is the 
> deal?
>
> 
> I 
>
>
>
> On Monday, August 23, 2021 at 10:20:06 PM UTC-4 philipr...@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>
>> Rode the Platy late this afternoon, temperatures were hitting the 
>> triple digits, the wind out of the South felt like you'd opened the oven 
>> door to check on the pie and I was soaked through with sweat. At one 
>> point 
>> I looked down & saw that curly heart cut in the head tube lug and it 
>> made 
>> me smile for the rest of the ride.
>>
>> That's all there is to this story but I wanted to share anyway.
>>
>> On Tuesday, June 15, 2021 at 1:21:30 PM UTC-5 Joe Bernard wrote:
>>
>>> Emily, this is so cool 
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, June 15, 2021 at 10:40:11 AM UTC-7 Emily Guise wrote:
>>>
 My Platypus has earned my cat’s approval-she sleeps under it all 
 the time!

 -Emily



 On Jun 15, 2021, at 6:28 AM, Leah Peterson  
 wrote:

 I’m interested in Cheviot vs Platy ride differences, too! So glad 
 you got your Platys, Sam and Roberta. Keep those photos coming.


 I love this thread; I hope it continues with Platypodes in 
 perpetuity. 

 Sent from my iPhone

 On Jun 14, 2021, at 9:43 PM, Roberta  wrote:

 Welcome back, Sam.  I'm sure it'll be great.  I'm very curious how 
 you feel about the ride Platy vs Chev.  The Platy in my 55cm size has 

Re: [RBW] Re: 2021 Appaloosa thread

[Nick Payne]

On Sunday, 3 October 2021 at 4:10:29 am UTC+11 kwi...@weimar.edu wrote:

> What kind of seat post rack are you using?  Is it custom?  It looks like 
> an ideal rack solution.
>

I got a local framebuilder to make it for me, and had it chromed by a local 
business.

Nick

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[RBW] Re: Landmark LBS Closed

[Craig Montgomery]

Hallejulah Jim. A great belated eulogy for a good man and teacher. I 
remember before Sheldon there were books (remember those?), one or two 
magazines, and some really great catalogues (Kitching/Cyclopedia). They 
really helped those of us who couldn't countenance the mod-stretch elastic 
racer dude mentality (Velo News? Meh). Proto-iBobbers. 
Just sitting here, some names come to mind, like Sloane, Ballantine, 
Forester, Cuthbertson. I still have a couple of Englishmen's books who 
wrote as if cycling was a culture, Nigel Spencer's The Art of Cycling and 
Reg Shaw's Let's Go Cycling (both from late 40'/early 50's).  Roger St. 
Pierre's The Book of the Bicycle ('73) and the Krause's (husband and wife) 
The Bicycle Book ('82). Bicycling (mag) was good way back when. We inhaled 
all this disparate knowledge from anywhere we could. Usually in magazine 
form, or from libraries (remember those?), or book stores. Then along came 
Sheldon and put a gigantic chunk of this knowledge between the Q and the M 
of our keyboards. He turned on many a light and quickly (at the speed of 
light). When I got my first real computer that could hook up with the net I 
would spend hours perusing him. It took a while for the wife to understand 
what was going on. She'd ask, "What are you staring at so intently?" I'd 
answer, "I'm mind-melding with Sheldon." 

Craig in Tucson



On Saturday, October 2, 2021 at 10:35:43 AM UTC-7 Cyclofiend Jim wrote:

> Long, slow exhale.
>
> Holding an eagle to the east in memory of an amazing person who left us 
> too soon.
> https://www.sheldonbrown.com/eagle.html
>
> There was a phrase, before this list, before Rivendell was more widely 
> known:
> AASHTA
>
> "As Always, Sheldon Has The Answer"
>
> Back in the days of Usenet, when dealing with a technical cycling problem 
> - heck, even building a wheel from scratch - was a 
> 17th-level-mason-guild-craft-mysto riddle you had to solve through elusive 
> scraps of information (and certainly no online videos), there was one 
> person who consistently wrote copious, logical, detailed answers to 
> technical bicycle questions: Sheldon Brown. 
>
> He set the standard in assistance, all from the back room of this shop I'd 
> never visited in Newtown Mass. Back in the days of dial-up. 
> Rec:Bicycles:Tech (and a dozen other sub-topics in Bicycles) was an oasis 
> and generations of riders owe him a serious debt. By his own admission, the 
> Harris Cyclery folks let him tinker around and play on this crazy 
> experiment of internet "discussion groups" long before it was widespread. 
> But we are richer for those decisions. It has a lot to do with how riders 
> became aware of stuff other than "what the pros ride!", learned the history 
> of the sport and bicycles in general, and it coalesced the perspective of 
> many of us who realized the sublime perfection of the bicycle in its most 
> basic form. It is part of the foundation of this list, to be sure.
>
> There were so many articles, you cannot scratch the surface - it was the 
> original archive.
> https://www.sheldonbrown.com/retroraleighs/history.html
> https://www.sheldonbrown.com/tandems.html
>
> He is the one who finally nudged me into trying a fixed-gear 
> https://www.sheldonbrown.com/fixedgear.html
> "Coasting is a pernicious habit"
>
> His technical knowledge ran deep. No, deeper than that. His humor to his 
> last days filled the world. One of my favorite chuckles was when he 
> photographed Grant at the Bridgestone booth at the 2005 Interbike.
> https://www.sheldonbrown.com/lasvegas/2005/
>
> I feel very, very lucky that I am out of retail these days. Running a high 
> service, knowledge-based store is a very difficult challenge when you can 
> get stuff delivered in 4 hours from a warehouse across your state. Layer on 
> that the constraints of doing business the last couple years and you have a 
> very tough equation to solve. It's why remembering and supporting those 
> quality organizations who hang in there is so important. 
>
> I'll admit this hit me unaware. But, it has hit me. Didn't realize they 
> had shuttered. 
> I guess I'll go pour one out, as the kids say. Thank you Sheldon. Thank 
> you Harris. You have blazed a trail and kept it clear. Now it's our turn to 
> continue.
>
> https://www.bostonglobe.com/2021/06/24/metro/we-had-people-with-tears-their-eyes-west-newton-bicycle-shop-closes-after-70-years/
>
>

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Re: [RBW] To My Platypus People!

[Sofie C]

Thank you for the warm welcome here, and very happy to be your #RivSister! 
I will happily post photos when my platy arrives! I'm not sure how long the 
wait will be -- I am in Massachusetts outside of Boston...I'm willing to 
wait... I still can't believe that I was lucky enough to nab this beauty!

On Saturday, October 2, 2021 at 5:19:12 PM UTC-4 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
wrote:

> I just got home from work and realized we got a new #RivSister! Oh, how 
> wonderful that you scored a Platy, Sofie. I really couldn’t be more excited 
> for you. Please, please, please delight us with your write up and photos 
> when the bike gets to you. How long before you expect to have it? 
>
> Thanks so much for chiming in. What a pleasure!
> #RivSisters,
> Leah
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> On Oct 2, 2021, at 10:08 AM, Sofie C  wrote:
>
> Hello, new here, but I'm now the proud owner of the 50 cm lime olive 
> Platypus that was just listed on web special! I had been preparing to try 
> my luck at the Clem complete restock, but happened to be looking at my 
> email when the newsletter came through last night, and I went for it. This 
> is my first Riv, after being a long time admirer. I'm so silly excited I 
> can hardly stand it!
>
>
> [image: Screen Shot 2021-09-24 at 8.00.16 PM.png]
>
> On Sunday, September 19, 2021 at 1:58:27 PM UTC-4 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
> wrote:
>
>> Ha! I’d be honored, but I think it unlikely. But “Belle Bars” have a nice 
>> ring to them… I wouldn’t object! 
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Sep 19, 2021, at 10:20 AM, ascpgh  wrote:
>>
>> I think from the last Riv post that there is a handlebar soon to be 
>> known more as a Platy or Leah bar. I mean really, Billie who?
>>
>>
>> Andy Cheatham
>> Pittsburgh
>>
>> On Saturday, September 18, 2021 at 7:01:31 PM UTC-5 Bicycle Belle Ding 
>> Ding! wrote:
>>
>>> It’s the Bike For All Reasons. The Bike of All Time.
>>>
>>> . It’s a gravel Platy. An errand Platy. A nighttime getaway Platy.
>>>
>>> What kind of Platypus to you have?
>>> Leah
>>>
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPad
>>>
>>> On Aug 30, 2021, at 7:06 AM, ascpgh  wrote:
>>>
>>> Leah wrote: "Oh my word. You’re right..."
>>>
>>>
>>> A modified (from someone's FB repost) list of the the three hardest 
>>> things to say:
>>>
>>>
>>>1. I was wrong.
>>>2. I need help.
>>>3. Yes, that does make you look fat. 
>>>
>>>
>>> Andy Cheatham
>>> Pittsburgh
>>>
>>> On Sunday, August 29, 2021 at 9:35:20 AM UTC-5 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Oh my word. You’re right - I completely missed this. A secret Platypus!

 The only Platys I know of that deviated from the production run colors 
 were the samples, all of which we have seen. An orange, a silver and a 
 bronzey green.  I don’t know what this root beer one is all about but I’m 
 going to try and find out.
 L 

 Sent from my iPad

 On Aug 29, 2021, at 5:46 AM, Eric Marth  wrote:

 

 I noticed this bronze-cola Platypus in this week's Blahg. What is the 
 deal?

 
 I 



 On Monday, August 23, 2021 at 10:20:06 PM UTC-4 philipr...@gmail.com 
 wrote:

> Rode the Platy late this afternoon, temperatures were hitting the 
> triple digits, the wind out of the South felt like you'd opened the oven 
> door to check on the pie and I was soaked through with sweat. At one 
> point 
> I looked down & saw that curly heart cut in the head tube lug and it made 
> me smile for the rest of the ride.
>
> That's all there is to this story but I wanted to share anyway.
>
> On Tuesday, June 15, 2021 at 1:21:30 PM UTC-5 Joe Bernard wrote:
>
>> Emily, this is so cool 
>>
>>
>> On Tuesday, June 15, 2021 at 10:40:11 AM UTC-7 Emily Guise wrote:
>>
>>> My Platypus has earned my cat’s approval-she sleeps under it all the 
>>> time!
>>>
>>> -Emily
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Jun 15, 2021, at 6:28 AM, Leah Peterson  
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> I’m interested in Cheviot vs Platy ride differences, too! So glad 
>>> you got your Platys, Sam and Roberta. Keep those photos coming.
>>>
>>>
>>> I love this thread; I hope it continues with Platypodes in 
>>> perpetuity. 
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>> On Jun 14, 2021, at 9:43 PM, Roberta  wrote:
>>>
>>> Welcome back, Sam.  I'm sure it'll be great.  I'm very curious how 
>>> you feel about the ride Platy vs Chev.  The Platy in my 55cm size has a 
>>> 2 
>>> inch longer wheelbase!  I have to be careful moving mine around my 
>>> living 
>>> room, but I think it makes up for that with the ride.  I had considered 
>>> a 
>>> Chev in the past.
>>>
>>> On Monday, June 14, 2021 at 10:47:09 PM UTC-4 CoalTrain wrote:
>>>
 Howdy folks. After a three year Rivendell hiatus, the last bike was 
 a Cheviot, I managed to find one 60cm Platypus 

[RBW] Re: Music to ride by

[Craig Montgomery]

For a good mountain climbing tempo I prefer Frank "Music is the only 
religion that delivers the goods" Zappa. Inspiring, energizing.   

 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dp6LT2MdaPI

Craig jivin' with my own cosmic debris in Tucson



On Sunday, September 26, 2021 at 2:28:24 PM UTC-7 Patrick Moore wrote:

> Years ago, 25+ years ago, in fact, back when I thought that cold weather 
> meant riding a trainer indoors -- the pain of it finally made me go out and 
> ride outdoors in all weather except freezing rain and snow -- I had a 
> carefully crafted trainer routine involving 60 minutes of intervals in an 
> apartment with windows wide open, heat turned off, 18" fan 2' in front of 
> my face, towel on bar, and plastic mat underneath to catch the sweat. I, 
> meanwhile in shorts and shoes and nought else. 
>
> This was a very rigorous interval workout, with heartrate chart on wall 
> behind fan, and minimal recovery periods. The mag trainer had 10 settings, 
> and the bike -- Miyata 410 or somesuch -- had 12 speeds. The regimen 
> included multiple 10 minute intervals standing and cranking fast and hard 
> in the 52 X 14 and #10 setting.
>
> So far, so good. The great problem was the ineffable boredom. "Ineffable" 
> doesn't begin to describe the mental pain. Time would slow down to 1/16 of 
> real speed. I tried watching reruns of Friends, but they were even slower 
> under exercise than ordinarily. I listened to NPR news, and tried Cream (
> *Crossroads*) and other heavy rock 'n' roll.
>
> One piece that did help assuage the pain -- again, I didn't mind the 
> physical suffering; it was the mental suffering -- was Handel's *Dixit 
> Dominus,* putting to music one of the more violet Psalms:
>
> "The Lord said to my Lord: Sit thou at my right hand until I make of thine 
> enemies thy footstool" (KJV, of course, accept no other) with music 
> composed to match.
>
> Anyway, as usual today, after riding to and from liturgy, I came home to 
> peruse the news (NYT Today's Paper), drink a drink or 2, and listen to 
> music on YouTube. I favor Baroque.
>
> And I stumbled across this performance of Dixit Dominus, which I link to 
> for your enjoyment. Use it for your own trainer or Peloton workouts at no 
> charge.
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dS65-ZvUSSM
>
> Patrick "will balance this with evening ragas for bedtime" Moore
>
>
>
> -- 
>
> ---
> Patrick Moore
> Alburquerque, Nuevo Mexico, Etats Unis d'Amerique, Orbis Terrarum
>
>

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Re: [RBW] To My Platypus People!

[Joe Bernard]

That's a nice bike! I love the gray and eggplant wrap on those swanky 
Loscos, and the black brakes and levers look good on LimeOlive frames. 
Welcome! 

Joe Bernard

On Saturday, October 2, 2021 at 10:08:11 AM UTC-7 sof...@gmail.com wrote:

> Hello, new here, but I'm now the proud owner of the 50 cm lime olive 
> Platypus that was just listed on web special! I had been preparing to try 
> my luck at the Clem complete restock, but happened to be looking at my 
> email when the newsletter came through last night, and I went for it. This 
> is my first Riv, after being a long time admirer. I'm so silly excited I 
> can hardly stand it!
>
> [image: Screen Shot 2021-09-24 at 8.00.16 PM.png]
>
> On Sunday, September 19, 2021 at 1:58:27 PM UTC-4 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
> wrote:
>
>> Ha! I’d be honored, but I think it unlikely. But “Belle Bars” have a nice 
>> ring to them… I wouldn’t object! 
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Sep 19, 2021, at 10:20 AM, ascpgh  wrote:
>>
>> I think from the last Riv post that there is a handlebar soon to be 
>> known more as a Platy or Leah bar. I mean really, Billie who?
>>
>>
>> Andy Cheatham
>> Pittsburgh
>>
>> On Saturday, September 18, 2021 at 7:01:31 PM UTC-5 Bicycle Belle Ding 
>> Ding! wrote:
>>
>>> It’s the Bike For All Reasons. The Bike of All Time.
>>>
>>> . It’s a gravel Platy. An errand Platy. A nighttime getaway Platy.
>>>
>>> What kind of Platypus to you have?
>>> Leah
>>>
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPad
>>>
>>> On Aug 30, 2021, at 7:06 AM, ascpgh  wrote:
>>>
>>> Leah wrote: "Oh my word. You’re right..."
>>>
>>>
>>> A modified (from someone's FB repost) list of the the three hardest 
>>> things to say:
>>>
>>>
>>>1. I was wrong.
>>>2. I need help.
>>>3. Yes, that does make you look fat. 
>>>
>>>
>>> Andy Cheatham
>>> Pittsburgh
>>>
>>> On Sunday, August 29, 2021 at 9:35:20 AM UTC-5 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Oh my word. You’re right - I completely missed this. A secret Platypus!

 The only Platys I know of that deviated from the production run colors 
 were the samples, all of which we have seen. An orange, a silver and a 
 bronzey green.  I don’t know what this root beer one is all about but I’m 
 going to try and find out.
 L 

 Sent from my iPad

 On Aug 29, 2021, at 5:46 AM, Eric Marth  wrote:

 

 I noticed this bronze-cola Platypus in this week's Blahg. What is the 
 deal?

 
 I 



 On Monday, August 23, 2021 at 10:20:06 PM UTC-4 philipr...@gmail.com 
 wrote:

> Rode the Platy late this afternoon, temperatures were hitting the 
> triple digits, the wind out of the South felt like you'd opened the oven 
> door to check on the pie and I was soaked through with sweat. At one 
> point 
> I looked down & saw that curly heart cut in the head tube lug and it made 
> me smile for the rest of the ride.
>
> That's all there is to this story but I wanted to share anyway.
>
> On Tuesday, June 15, 2021 at 1:21:30 PM UTC-5 Joe Bernard wrote:
>
>> Emily, this is so cool 
>>
>>
>> On Tuesday, June 15, 2021 at 10:40:11 AM UTC-7 Emily Guise wrote:
>>
>>> My Platypus has earned my cat’s approval-she sleeps under it all the 
>>> time!
>>>
>>> -Emily
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Jun 15, 2021, at 6:28 AM, Leah Peterson  
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> I’m interested in Cheviot vs Platy ride differences, too! So glad 
>>> you got your Platys, Sam and Roberta. Keep those photos coming.
>>>
>>>
>>> I love this thread; I hope it continues with Platypodes in 
>>> perpetuity. 
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>> On Jun 14, 2021, at 9:43 PM, Roberta  wrote:
>>>
>>> Welcome back, Sam.  I'm sure it'll be great.  I'm very curious how 
>>> you feel about the ride Platy vs Chev.  The Platy in my 55cm size has a 
>>> 2 
>>> inch longer wheelbase!  I have to be careful moving mine around my 
>>> living 
>>> room, but I think it makes up for that with the ride.  I had considered 
>>> a 
>>> Chev in the past.
>>>
>>> On Monday, June 14, 2021 at 10:47:09 PM UTC-4 CoalTrain wrote:
>>>
 Howdy folks. After a three year Rivendell hiatus, the last bike was 
 a Cheviot, I managed to find one 60cm Platypus up north at C Cyclery 
 in 
 Quebec. It arrived today and is being frame saved and tanned out back. 
 Can't wait to build it up! The green matches great with my mustard 
 Crust 
 Romancuer! I love that Riv finally did a Mixte with Canti studs.  -Sam

 [image: tempImage4J342J.bmp]


 On Sunday, June 13, 2021 at 9:20:08 PM UTC-5 joseph...@gmail.com 
 wrote:

> Tom, 
> I think its a great use of space.  I do a 48oz bottle in the same 
> place as your pump, 64oz bottle 

[RBW] Re: Landmark LBS Closed

[aeroperf]

Thankfully, the Sheldon Brown website is continuing on.
His wife, Harriet Fell, and technical writer John Allen will keep it going.
Good interview here: 
https://outspokencyclist.com/2021/06/show-561-june-26-2021/

>From the website:
“Reports of the demise of this Web site are greatly exaggerated! We at 
sheldonbrown.com thank Harris Cyclery for its support over the years. 
Harris Cyclery has closed, but we keep going. Keep visiting the site for 
new and updated articles, and news about possible new affiliations.”

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[RBW] Re: Landmark LBS Closed

[Cyclofiend Jim]

Long, slow exhale.

Holding an eagle to the east in memory of an amazing person who left us too 
soon.
https://www.sheldonbrown.com/eagle.html

There was a phrase, before this list, before Rivendell was more widely 
known:
AASHTA

"As Always, Sheldon Has The Answer"

Back in the days of Usenet, when dealing with a technical cycling problem - 
heck, even building a wheel from scratch - was a 
17th-level-mason-guild-craft-mysto riddle you had to solve through elusive 
scraps of information (and certainly no online videos), there was one 
person who consistently wrote copious, logical, detailed answers to 
technical bicycle questions: Sheldon Brown. 

He set the standard in assistance, all from the back room of this shop I'd 
never visited in Newtown Mass. Back in the days of dial-up. 
Rec:Bicycles:Tech (and a dozen other sub-topics in Bicycles) was an oasis 
and generations of riders owe him a serious debt. By his own admission, the 
Harris Cyclery folks let him tinker around and play on this crazy 
experiment of internet "discussion groups" long before it was widespread. 
But we are richer for those decisions. It has a lot to do with how riders 
became aware of stuff other than "what the pros ride!", learned the history 
of the sport and bicycles in general, and it coalesced the perspective of 
many of us who realized the sublime perfection of the bicycle in its most 
basic form. It is part of the foundation of this list, to be sure.

There were so many articles, you cannot scratch the surface - it was the 
original archive.
https://www.sheldonbrown.com/retroraleighs/history.html
https://www.sheldonbrown.com/tandems.html

He is the one who finally nudged me into trying a fixed-gear 
https://www.sheldonbrown.com/fixedgear.html
"Coasting is a pernicious habit"

His technical knowledge ran deep. No, deeper than that. His humor to his 
last days filled the world. One of my favorite chuckles was when he 
photographed Grant at the Bridgestone booth at the 2005 Interbike.
https://www.sheldonbrown.com/lasvegas/2005/

I feel very, very lucky that I am out of retail these days. Running a high 
service, knowledge-based store is a very difficult challenge when you can 
get stuff delivered in 4 hours from a warehouse across your state. Layer on 
that the constraints of doing business the last couple years and you have a 
very tough equation to solve. It's why remembering and supporting those 
quality organizations who hang in there is so important. 

I'll admit this hit me unaware. But, it has hit me. Didn't realize they had 
shuttered. 
I guess I'll go pour one out, as the kids say. Thank you Sheldon. Thank you 
Harris. You have blazed a trail and kept it clear. Now it's our turn to 
continue.
https://www.bostonglobe.com/2021/06/24/metro/we-had-people-with-tears-their-eyes-west-newton-bicycle-shop-closes-after-70-years/



On Thursday, September 30, 2021 at 6:44:46 AM UTC-7 George Schick wrote:

> I just happened to check into Harris Cyclery the other day to see if they 
> had a certain component in stock only to find this announcement:
> https://www.sheldonbrown.com/harris/
> Apparently they closed back in June but I had not checked the website for 
> a while and just discovered it.
>
> I've purchased many bike parts as well as one complete bike from those 
> people over the years and they were always very friendly and knowledgable. 
>  Further, that shop was central to the famous Sheldon Brown.  Fortunately, 
> it looks like the website and links to all of Sheldon's articles and advice 
> is still up and running.
>
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[RBW] Re: Anyone run 650b on a Sam Hillborne?

[JohnS]

Hello,

I have not tried a 650B conversion for a Sam, but I did on my Surly Pacer. 
I didn't like how much lower the bb/crank was, so it's going back to 700c. 
I have a pair of Paul Racers,  long reach center pull brakes in silver, 
which I would be willing to sell. Let me know if you would be interested in 
them.

JohnS

On Saturday, October 2, 2021 at 1:08:08 PM UTC-4 brenton...@gmail.com wrote:

> Hi all, I have a Sam Hillborne without canti posts. I was considering 
> trying 650b hoops to get some even beefier tires on the bike. Has anyone 
> seen it done? Pics?

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Re: [RBW] Stolen 50cm Betty Foy

[Curtis McKenzie]

This is painful to hear.  Will keep a eye out for you in the East County.

Take care,

Curtis
El Cajon

On Sat, Oct 2, 2021, 10:10 AM Amy DeVaudreuil 
wrote:

> My beautiful Betty Foy bicycle was stolen from my garage last night. I am
> filing a police report and monitoring local (San Diego) craigslist and
> Offer Up, but in case anyone sees a 50cm Betty Foy for sale somewhere,
> please let me know so I can track down if it's my bike.
>
> Thank you!
> Amy DeVaudreuil
> amydevaudre...@gmail.com
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Re: [RBW] To My Platypus People!

[JAS]

Congratulations Sofiya and welcome!  You've got a spectacular bike; what a 
beauty.   Lucky you!  Be sure to write again and give us a ride report and 
show us the places you go with your new Platy.  

Joyce

On Saturday, October 2, 2021 at 10:08:11 AM UTC-7 sof...@gmail.com wrote:

> Hello, new here, but I'm now the proud owner of the 50 cm lime olive 
> Platypus that was just listed on web special! I had been preparing to try 
> my luck at the Clem complete restock, but happened to be looking at my 
> email when the newsletter came through last night, and I went for it. This 
> is my first Riv, after being a long time admirer. I'm so silly excited I 
> can hardly stand it!
>
> [image: Screen Shot 2021-09-24 at 8.00.16 PM.png]
>
> On Sunday, September 19, 2021 at 1:58:27 PM UTC-4 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
> wrote:
>
>> Ha! I’d be honored, but I think it unlikely. But “Belle Bars” have a nice 
>> ring to them… I wouldn’t object! 
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Sep 19, 2021, at 10:20 AM, ascpgh  wrote:
>>
>> I think from the last Riv post that there is a handlebar soon to be 
>> known more as a Platy or Leah bar. I mean really, Billie who?
>>
>>
>> Andy Cheatham
>> Pittsburgh
>>
>> On Saturday, September 18, 2021 at 7:01:31 PM UTC-5 Bicycle Belle Ding 
>> Ding! wrote:
>>
>>> It’s the Bike For All Reasons. The Bike of All Time.
>>>
>>> . It’s a gravel Platy. An errand Platy. A nighttime getaway Platy.
>>>
>>> What kind of Platypus to you have?
>>> Leah
>>>
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPad
>>>
>>> On Aug 30, 2021, at 7:06 AM, ascpgh  wrote:
>>>
>>> Leah wrote: "Oh my word. You’re right..."
>>>
>>>
>>> A modified (from someone's FB repost) list of the the three hardest 
>>> things to say:
>>>
>>>
>>>1. I was wrong.
>>>2. I need help.
>>>3. Yes, that does make you look fat. 
>>>
>>>
>>> Andy Cheatham
>>> Pittsburgh
>>>
>>> On Sunday, August 29, 2021 at 9:35:20 AM UTC-5 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Oh my word. You’re right - I completely missed this. A secret Platypus!

 The only Platys I know of that deviated from the production run colors 
 were the samples, all of which we have seen. An orange, a silver and a 
 bronzey green.  I don’t know what this root beer one is all about but I’m 
 going to try and find out.
 L 

 Sent from my iPad

 On Aug 29, 2021, at 5:46 AM, Eric Marth  wrote:

 

 I noticed this bronze-cola Platypus in this week's Blahg. What is the 
 deal?

 
 I 



 On Monday, August 23, 2021 at 10:20:06 PM UTC-4 philipr...@gmail.com 
 wrote:

> Rode the Platy late this afternoon, temperatures were hitting the 
> triple digits, the wind out of the South felt like you'd opened the oven 
> door to check on the pie and I was soaked through with sweat. At one 
> point 
> I looked down & saw that curly heart cut in the head tube lug and it made 
> me smile for the rest of the ride.
>
> That's all there is to this story but I wanted to share anyway.
>
> On Tuesday, June 15, 2021 at 1:21:30 PM UTC-5 Joe Bernard wrote:
>
>> Emily, this is so cool 
>>
>>
>> On Tuesday, June 15, 2021 at 10:40:11 AM UTC-7 Emily Guise wrote:
>>
>>> My Platypus has earned my cat’s approval-she sleeps under it all the 
>>> time!
>>>
>>> -Emily
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Jun 15, 2021, at 6:28 AM, Leah Peterson  
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> I’m interested in Cheviot vs Platy ride differences, too! So glad 
>>> you got your Platys, Sam and Roberta. Keep those photos coming.
>>>
>>>
>>> I love this thread; I hope it continues with Platypodes in 
>>> perpetuity. 
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>> On Jun 14, 2021, at 9:43 PM, Roberta  wrote:
>>>
>>> Welcome back, Sam.  I'm sure it'll be great.  I'm very curious how 
>>> you feel about the ride Platy vs Chev.  The Platy in my 55cm size has a 
>>> 2 
>>> inch longer wheelbase!  I have to be careful moving mine around my 
>>> living 
>>> room, but I think it makes up for that with the ride.  I had considered 
>>> a 
>>> Chev in the past.
>>>
>>> On Monday, June 14, 2021 at 10:47:09 PM UTC-4 CoalTrain wrote:
>>>
 Howdy folks. After a three year Rivendell hiatus, the last bike was 
 a Cheviot, I managed to find one 60cm Platypus up north at C Cyclery 
 in 
 Quebec. It arrived today and is being frame saved and tanned out back. 
 Can't wait to build it up! The green matches great with my mustard 
 Crust 
 Romancuer! I love that Riv finally did a Mixte with Canti studs.  -Sam

 [image: tempImage4J342J.bmp]


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> Tom, 
> I think its a great use of space.  I do a 48oz bottle in the same 

Re: [RBW] Clicking MKS bear trap pedal

[Greg Murphy]

MKS pedals are notorious for needing to being greased up...even in newish
condition.

On Wed, Sep 29, 2021, 7:36 AM Eric Marth  wrote:

> I just installed a pair of MKS bear trap pedals and have put about 150
> miles on them. The right pedal just started clicking. I can feel a dull
> click when the pedal gets to the three o'clock position.
>
> Any ideas for remedies?
>
> Thanks!
>
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[RBW] Re: Landmark LBS Closed

[Willet Mather]

Glad I'm not the only one who misses Velouria and her Lovely Bicycles.  
With sincere apologies to our own Jason F., I must say in all honesty that 
Velouria's (not her real name, we know) images of bicycles and bags and 
lugs and rustic stone cottages in the Irish countryside and wool sweaters 
(oooh, the wool!) are, collectively, the most beautiful picture stories 
I've seen anywhere on any topic.  The colors and the textures and the 
weather and the dramatic (imagined) backstories that arise from her 
compositions and her posing and facial expressions-- the whole package made 
me log in to her site every day for a month just to see the one posting 
that might show up during that time period.  She is (or was, I guess) the 
Dame Judi Dench of bicycle chronicling, who told more of a tale with each 
frown or gaze off into the distance than a hundred paragraphs of exposition 
could possibly explain.

I do hope she's found fulfillment knitting in front of woodstove and making 
patterns and raising a family in County Donegal or wherever else she 
currently calls home.  Best wishes to her and her family.

Willet M.

On Thursday, September 30, 2021 at 8:12:21 AM UTC-6 Arthur Mayfield wrote:

> That’s sad. Without Harris Cyclery, we might never have had Velouria and 
> the Lovely Cicycle blog, and I might not have found Rivendell (and would 
> still be wandering around lost in Mirkwood). I hope others will take up 
> where Harris Cyclery left off, for the benefit of the locals, at least.
>
> On Thursday, September 30, 2021 at 9:44:46 AM UTC-4 George Schick wrote:
>
>> I just happened to check into Harris Cyclery the other day to see if they 
>> had a certain component in stock only to find this announcement:
>> https://www.sheldonbrown.com/harris/
>> Apparently they closed back in June but I had not checked the website for 
>> a while and just discovered it.
>>
>> I've purchased many bike parts as well as one complete bike from those 
>> people over the years and they were always very friendly and knowledgable. 
>>  Further, that shop was central to the famous Sheldon Brown.  Fortunately, 
>> it looks like the website and links to all of Sheldon's articles and advice 
>> is still up and running.
>>
>>

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[RBW] Stolen 50cm Betty Foy

[Amy DeVaudreuil]

My beautiful Betty Foy bicycle was stolen from my garage last night. I am 
filing a police report and monitoring local (San Diego) craigslist and 
Offer Up, but in case anyone sees a 50cm Betty Foy for sale somewhere, 
please let me know so I can track down if it's my bike.

Thank you!
Amy DeVaudreuil
amydevaudre...@gmail.com

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[RBW] Re: Clicking MKS bear trap pedal

[Jayachandra Kura]

I have a pair of MKS Bear Trap Pedals - they're the best! I've run into the 
same issue before and it was just caused by the right pedal developing some 
play.

Its just a cup and cone style hub, so it should be fairly straightforward 
to remove the play/click as long as you have allen keys/metric socket 
wrenches. It'd probably be good idea to repack both pedals with grease as 
mine (and others) have come pretty meagerly greased straight from the 
factory. I would advise against dripping tri-flo into the cup and 
cone/spindle area as that would thin any existing grease and might 
aggravate the clicking sound.

If that doesn't resolve the issue, then I wouldn't invest in the Park Tool 
CWO-1, I've heard its what the professionals use to open their can-o-worms.

Hope that helps
Jay
On Wednesday, September 29, 2021 at 10:44:10 AM UTC-4 eric...@gmail.com 
wrote:

> Thanks Paul, can you recommend a good quality can-o-worms opener? 
> Preferably made in USA? 
>
> On Wednesday, September 29, 2021 at 8:32:43 AM UTC-4 Paul Brodek wrote:
>
>> TL; DR: First swap the pedal to make sure the issue is the pedal. If the 
>> clicking goes away, then you know it's the pedal. If not, you need a deep 
>> dive into other possibilities. 
>>
>> If it is the pedal, make sure the pedal threads are greased or have 
>> anti-seize, install a pedal washer if you don't have one installed 
>> currently, and check again. 
>>
>> Next check the spindle/bearing adjustment for any play. If there's play, 
>> adjust it out. If the spindle isn't adjustable, you're SOL on that count.
>>
>> If the pedal cages are bolted on, drip some Tri-Flow/similar at the 
>> bolt/cage interface and cage/body interface and carefully make sure the 
>> bolts are tight. You want to use a good wrench and care since the bolt head 
>> is probably small and shallow. 
>>
>> If the cages aren't bolted on, drip some Tri-Flow/similar into the space 
>> between cages and pedal body. 
>>
>> I don't know if you can just pound on the peened cage/body interface---I 
>> mean nothing's stopping you from doing that,  just not sure if it'd be 
>> effective, and it could cause damage and ugliness. 
>>
>> That's about all that comes to my scattered mind at the moment.
>>
>> And just so it's said
>>
>> Clicking Pedal Syndrome can bring you down some dark and scary places.
>>
>> Joking aside, what seems like a pedal click can come from many other 
>> places on the bike, and may have zero relation to what you're 
>> hearing/feeling from your recent pedal installation. Plenty of stories here 
>> if you do a search. Folks have found "pedal clicks" to be seatposts, 
>> saddles, stems and/or handlebars. You swear you can feel it in the pedals, 
>> but the offending tick is somewhere else entirely. And much time and agony 
>> can be experienced running it down.
>>
>> Good luck!
>>
>> Paul Brodek
>> Hillsdale, NJ USA
>>
>> On Wednesday, September 29, 2021 at 7:36:30 AM UTC-4 eric...@gmail.com 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I just installed a pair of MKS bear trap pedals and have put about 150 
>>> miles on them. The right pedal just started clicking. I can feel a dull 
>>> click when the pedal gets to the three o'clock position. 
>>>
>>> Any ideas for remedies? 
>>>
>>> Thanks! 
>>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: Sam Hillborne build video

[Samuel Courtney]

Awesome vid. Cool build.

On Wednesday, September 29, 2021 at 12:01:05 PM UTC-7 eric...@gmail.com 
wrote:

> Thanks to a tip from forum members Liz S. and Paul R. I purchased my first 
> Rivendell earlier this summer. It was a complete Sam Hillborne that I 
> totally overhauled. 
>
> I made a video of the build process, it's up here 
> . 
>
> And here are a few pictures of the completed bike. Thanks for having a 
> look ✌️
>
> [image: Hillborne Sm_01.jpg][image: Hillborne Sm_02.jpg][image: Hillborne 
> Sm_03.jpg][image: Hillborne Sm_05.jpg][image: Hillborne Sm_06.jpg][image: 
> Hillborne Sm_07.jpg]
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[RBW] FS Front Bags - Acorn Medium Rando & Dill Pickle Gear Handlebar Bag

[Sean Steinle]

Prices are shipped to lower 48. Cross posted. 

Pics 

Acorn Medium Rando in green, don't think it's the newest version. Used, not 
drilled, good shape overall. $125

Dill Pickle Handlebar Bag in burnt orange. Like New. $75

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[RBW] Back Issues of bicycle quarterly giveaway

[Nicolas Protopappas]

I have some back issues of Bicycle Quarterly that I'd love to give away if 
anyone is interested. From Autumn 2018-Winter 2020. 

I live in Oakland, Let me know
Cheers
-Nico

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[RBW] Re: College Park Bicycles - Don't Look Down!

[Batwing]

That place is so amazing.  When I lived in DC, I would head to that 
Bikeshop to window shop.  Just an amazing amount of steel frames. 

Ryan

On Friday, September 24, 2021 at 10:54:44 AM UTC-5 mrb wrote:

> Incredible place! Larry is the best.
>
> On Friday, September 24, 2021 at 10:08:21 AM UTC-4 George Schick wrote:
>
>> They should put places like this on the National Register before they 
>> either disappear entirely or fill up with e-bikes.
>>
>>
>> On Friday, September 24, 2021 at 7:58:21 AM UTC-5 Marty Gierke, 
>> Stewartstown PA wrote:
>>
>>> Paid a visit to College Park Bicycles yesterday to drop off a bike I 
>>> agented recently. (A nice 70s touring Paramount) As always, I strained my 
>>> neck staring at the ceiling - packed with so may cool vintage bikes and 
>>> frames it boggles the mind. Never enough time to see everything, but I did 
>>> pick out a few notable bikes I would be interested in. Two rooms full of 
>>> eye candy - top to bottom:
>>>
>>> [image: PXL_20210923_202229009.MP.jpg]
>>> [image: PXL_20210923_201709791.MP.jpg]
>>> A cool ladies' Paramount caught my eye:
>>> [image: PXL_20210923_202135073.jpeg]
>>> And a sweet Motobecane:
>>> [image: PXL_20210923_20034.jpeg]
>>> This Bruce Gordon (in my size!) was a fun find. And yes, I flipped the 
>>> photo for clarity: 
>>> [image: PXL_20210923_202149675.jpeg]
>>> And a beautiful 26"-wheeled Rivendell All Rounder buried in the mix:
>>> [image: PXL_20210923_202346370.PORTRAIT.jpg]
>>> Sorry I didn't get a better shot of that one! Trust me, it's stunning. 
>>>
>>> I did not leave empty handed. Could not resist a pair of Sackville bags 
>>> in the colors I particularly like; 
>>> [image: PXL_20210924_113654926.jpeg]
>>>
>>> Special thanks to Larry and the crew. If you every get close to DC, make 
>>> this shop a priority to visit. It's a cacophony of cycling clutter - just 
>>> what we all love!
>>>
>>> Marty
>>>
>>>
>>>

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[RBW] Stolen Rivendell Bleriot

[Tara Guertin]

Hey everyone!  I just wanted to post that my Rivendell Bleriot was stolen 
out of my downtown San Francisco apartment building. It had a tweed saddle 
bag and silver rack and green handlebar wraps . I know its a long shot but 
if anyone hears anything my cell is 917-626-3593.  
Thank you!
Tara

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[RBW] Anyone run 650b on a Sam Hillborne?

[Brenton Eastman]

Hi all, I have a Sam Hillborne without canti posts. I was considering 
trying 650b hoops to get some even beefier tires on the bike. Has anyone 
seen it done? Pics?

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Re: [RBW] Roadini or Homer

[Karl Wilcox]

The Homer will be 'heavier' or stiffer in terms of feel than the Roadini; I
actually find the Roadini too stiff for my riding style.
Karl

On Thu, Sep 23, 2021 at 7:38 AM Bones  wrote:

> I know these comparisons have come up frequently, but here is my
> particular situation:
>
> I had a 62 Hillborne. It felt too similar to my Appaloosa, so I got a 61
> Roadini. I've been riding that for a year and a half and I love it. It
> serves the purpose the Hillborne was meant to serve (the Hillborne always
> felt a bit too bulky for my intended purpose... which is primarily riding
> on roads with light loads).
>
> Sometimes I feel like I overshot with the Roadini though, and the Homer
> would be the best choice. I sometimes wish I could put fenders on it,
> without having to go with a smaller tire (currently running Barlows on
> Quills --> ~41mm). I sometimes wish I could add a small front rack without
> using P-clamps.
>
> Being a tall and slender fella, pretty much every Rivendell is overbuilt
> for me for any of their stated purposes. What I am getting at is would I be
> losing anything if I swapped the Roadini for a Homer? Clearly I would gain
> in functionality. I am indifferent with respect to the chainstay lengths. I
> just want to be sure that the bike would have the same lighter feel that I
> experience with the Roadini.
>
> Any insight is much appreciated!
>
> Bones
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Re: [RBW] Re: Show Me Your Roadeo!

[Karl Wilcox]

@Tim... I also have a 93 pbh with a 84cm saddle height.  I decided that the
63cm Roadeo was just not large enough.  I do not like elongated stems
(vertical or horizontal).  I got the 2018 Roadini instead.  It fits
perfectly.  My only gripe with the Roadini is that it is too stiff for my
kind of riding (club rides that can be kind of fast).  I prefer more
lateral compliance in my bicycles, and the Roadini is just stiffer all
round than I like.  I will be selling it.  It rides wonderfully, but
compliance is not its cup of tea.  My SOMA San Marcos which is really
identical to the Roadini has more compliance-- perfect for long distance
stuff and gravel.  I will keep the San Marcos.  It seems that Grant
perfected frame design in the Roadini and the San Marcos: long head tubes
and sloping top tubes for us tall riders really improves comfort
immensely.  My old Riv 'Redwood' was a great bike, but the stem was always
too low, and I really do not like the 'stuck up' stem look.

On Mon, Sep 20, 2021 at 5:13 PM Tim Bantham  wrote:

> @Doug H I have the same question about the fork. How did you decide
> between the two? My saddle height is 84.5 cm with a PBH of 93. My bars are
> 1.5 cm's below the saddle. On my Sam the 6 degree top tube slope creates a
> bit more stack height. In comparison the Roadeo has a 2 degree slope. This
> is why I am wondering what the HT size is on the size 63 that Matt has. I
> am trying to decide if I could get my bars high enough with a threadless
> form without having to add to many spacers.
>
> On Monday, September 20, 2021 at 7:59:07 PM UTC-4 Tim Bantham wrote:
>
>> John, You've got two great bikes with the QB and Roadeo. Both are high on
>> my list to own. I mostly agree with your comments about taking the
>> versatility of a Rivendell to far. I have an Appaloosa and a Sam. I had a
>> Clem H and quickly sold it. The Clem was one I regretted and wished I
>> hadn't gone down that path. With the Clem I tried to make it something it
>> was not (at least to my standards) and that was an analog mountain bike. At
>> the time I was caught up in the Rivendell Hillie Bike marketing only to be
>> disappointed later. I found the ride to be heavy, dull and just
>> uninspiring. I also did not get along with the very long chainstays. So in
>> that sense my experience mirrors yours.
>>
>> Like the Atlantis, the Appaloosa is great at what it is meant for.
>> Touring, bike packing, grocery getting both on and off road. I currently
>> have it set up with 2.25 Schwalbe T-Burts tubeless. A very Un-Riv Jones
>> Loop bars along with a White Industries Double. The bike is super stable
>> loaded or unloaded on any surface. I love it for what it is and mostly ride
>> it for those purposes.
>>
>> I have found the Sam to be the most versatile of them all. I've had that
>> bike built up so many different ways, Before I had the Appaloosa I would
>> ride it loaded with camping gear, It had Billie Bars, Albatross bars,
>> Albastache bars and Noodle bars. I also had several different Nitto racks
>> on it front and rear. All versions were great but I have finally settled on
>> a drop bar set up. I ditched the Noodles for a 31.8 clamp so I could use
>> Salsa Cowchippers. I have a Nitto Quill adaptor so I can use a normal clamp
>> on stem. I mostly did that to make it easier to try different stem lengths
>> without spending a fortune. I settled on a 110mm stem. This bike outshines
>> my other Riv's in overall versatility.
>>
>> I think the Sam makes a great road bike. Similar to the very popular "all
>> road" versions from the bigger brands. The Sam is better because it's
>> lugged steel and has far more tire clearance. That said, I wish it was
>> lighter and had more snap. I think the Roadeo would provide that.
>>
>> @Calvin, good for you on taking the plunge. You must be excited!!
>> Although the Roadeo is technically not custom Mark Nobilette is a custom
>> builder and talking to a local one man ship he told me most everyone is one
>> year out. At least you are not having to wait until 2023 like some of the
>> bigger brands out there!
>>
>> @Austin, Beautiful bike! I love the red and white color. Looks like Bon
>> Jon Pass tires so I know it's good for 35's. I'm happy to see that because
>> this is the minimum size RH tire that will set up tubeless.
>>
>> On Monday, September 20, 2021 at 7:29:54 PM UTC-4 Austin B. wrote:
>>
>>> [image: 78447BB8-3CDE-4D78-873B-5A4287F94FEF.jpeg]Here’s my 63cm with a
>>> modern take on components.
>>>
>>> On Monday, September 20, 2021 at 7:09:05 PM UTC-4 Calvin Yolo wrote:
>>>
 I ended up placing a deposit for the Roadeo instead of waiting for a
 Roadini. 10 month wait. I plan to put Ultegra on it like what's shown 
 above.

 On Monday, September 20, 2021 at 3:46:17 PM UTC-7 John G. wrote:

> I've owned a Hunqapillar and an Atlantis. I currently own a Quickbeam
> and a Roadeo. I sold the Hunq to buy the Atlantis, then I traded the
> Atlantis for the 

[RBW] LF: Sam Hillborne & Rambouillet Decals

[Jurgen Estanislao]

Looking for spare decals for my SAM and RAM, most especially for my RAM as 
I am planning on restoring it. 

If anyone happens to have an extra set, please do let me know!

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Re: [RBW] WTB: Fabios Chest Small

[Ryan Stanis]

Michael,

Just saw that a Swift Industries made, Coyote X-Pac is for sale on ebay as
we speak.  Current going price is about the same as getting one new however.

take care,
R

On Mon, Sep 20, 2021 at 5:36 PM Michael Ullmer  wrote:

> After a wonderful weekend spent riding some gravel out in Wenatchee, I
> decided I need to switch up my cockpit setup on my gravel bike. It's
> currently sporting narrow (42cm) drop bars with a rando bag and on
> technical terrrain I really need something wider. I've got some Crust Towel
> Rack bars coming and I'm hoping to pair it with a small Fab's Chest. Anyone
> have one in their bin?
>
> Thanks!
>
> Mike in Seattle
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[RBW] Safety on the littered trails

[Pete P]

It’s that time of the year to be careful about riding on trails with leaves 
and STICKS. There have been a couple times in the past when a stick would 
get sucked up my front wheel. I managed to stop in time before it crumpled my 
fender and possibly jam into the fork crown and cause me to crash.

Safety tabs come standard on Riv’s plastic fenders.I have these on my other 
bike. My Atlantis has Gilles Berthoud stainless steel fenders with 5mm 
aluminum fender stays. I thought the PDW safety tabs wouldn’t fit but my 
email question to them was returned and YES the hole would fit 5mm stays 
perfectly.  So I measured two times and cut once on each side of the fender 
stays and this is how they look. 

[img]https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51492545496_0a528aeae3_c.jpg[/img]

[img]https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51438690374_117b3d3012_c.jpg[/img]

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Re: [RBW] Re: Brevets on Rivs -- 2021 Dillon Beach 200k

[Ryan Stanis]

Bill,

Alway love to see rivs out on brevets! I have a similar set up to your
Roadeo on a Circle A Cycles frame, 32s but *with* fenders, that is not my
go-to rando bike, but I find it a nice change of pace sometimes. Little bit
zippier feeling than my larger volume tired alternatives.  Longest i've
done on the Circle A was 300k, but am currently improving the build on it
to hopefully complete our local SR series again next spring. Have yet to
complete a brevet on my Sam Hillborne, but will be taking it on a 100 mile
dyno ride down to Cape May NJ, then another 50 miles up to Atlantic City
later that day.  Not the best test as the biggest hill will be crossing the
Benjamin Franklin Bridge over in to Camden, but will be a nice long time to
spend with Sam regardless!

And second your shout out to Ruth Works! Ely makes some great bags, and he
was hugely supportive of us as we got our new bike shop off the ground here
in Philly!

-Ryan

On Thu, Sep 16, 2021 at 7:31 PM Craig Montgomery 
wrote:

> *My "dream Roadeo" would be a frame that has the light tubing of a
> Roadeo/Legolas, geometry of a Roadeo, but the clearances of my Hillborne
> which takes 38s plus fenders.  That's why I think cantilever brakes would
> be ideal.  The fact is that I have a Roadeo, and a Legolas, and a
> Hillborne, so it's kind of dumb for me to imagine the combination of all of
> them.  :)*
>
> *Bill Lindsay*
> *El Cerrito, CA*
>
> Not really dumb. You just *yearn* for an "ideal" and it just so happens
> you have three bikes with one or two characteristics of that "ideal".  I
> had similar criteria a long time ago. Road bike (not full on touring),
> reasonably light, fat tires for long distance comfort and making the
> transition from pavement to hardpack with aplomb. Such an animal didn't
> exist in the "new" market. So...being dirt poor, I approached the "problem"
> from a different angle: Vintage. Hence, a '68 Condor handbuilt by Vic
> Edwards. 531, medium trail (about 50mm),  room for 38's with fenders. What
> a gem and I saved a whole bunch of cash. When I found it,  Riv was still in
> Rambouillet mode (beautiful but not much in the meaty tire department).
> "Fat-tired" road bikes were either French or British handbuilts, usually
> 700x32/35 or 27x1 1/4 or 3/8.  here really was a lot of diversity in the
> road bike paradigm back in the 50's-70's. These bikes still exist but you
> need to immerse yourself in the vintage state of mind and be able to ask
> sellers the right questions to be sure of clearances. And they're not as
> cheap as they used to be. Think I paid about $150 for used custom steel
> back then.  Even then you have to accept that you're not going to get 100%
> of what you may have wanted. My '68 Volvo was very cool but you still had
> to keep those dual Strombergs in sync, live with single belt seat belts and
> no head rests.
> Craig in Tucson
>
> On Monday, August 16, 2021 at 10:27:32 AM UTC-7 Bill Lindsay wrote:
>
>> I noted that I wished my 32s were 35s at the end of the ride.  Austin
>> responded that his Roadeo takes 35s
>>
>> I did not mean to suggest my Roadeo doesn't take 35s.  I have the same
>> brakes you have (Velo Orange Gran Cru).  I only meant that's what I was
>> wishing at the end of the ride.  I considered putting the 35s on pre-ride,
>> and didn't.  Perhaps next time I will.  Please do show off if you can fit
>> Barlow Passes into your Roadeo.  My Barlow Passes are sitting on another
>> bike in another location, so I can't do that test.  My Barlow Passes are
>> plump, more like a true 40mm - 41mm.
>>
>> My "dream Roadeo" would be a frame that has the light tubing of a
>> Roadeo/Legolas, geometry of a Roadeo, but the clearances of my Hillborne
>> which takes 38s plus fenders.  That's why I think cantilever brakes would
>> be ideal.  The fact is that I have a Roadeo, and a Legolas, and a
>> Hillborne, so it's kind of dumb for me to imagine the combination of all of
>> them.  :)
>>
>> Bill Lindsay
>> El Cerrito, CA
>>
>> On Monday, August 16, 2021 at 9:26:03 AM UTC-7 Austin B. wrote:
>>
>>> @Bill,
>>>
>>> My 2014 Roadeo takes 35mm Bon Jon EL's just fine (mounted to H Plus Son
>>> Archetype rims) and the ride is sublime. See photos of clearance
>>> below--maybe a different brakes would help? Or perhaps RBW adjusted the
>>> clearances at some point.
>>>
>>> I've got 38mm Barlow's on my BMC Monstercross which I've been thinking
>>> about trying on the Roadeo to see if they fit (I'm due for new tires soon
>>> so I'm curious).
>>>
>>> Austin
>>>
>>> [image: IMG_8105.jpeg] [image: IMG_8106.jpeg]
>>>
>>>
>>> On Monday, August 16, 2021 at 11:48:38 AM UTC-4 Adam wrote:
>>>
 Thanks for the report.

 I'm curious to hear about your and others' nutrition strategies. I've
 not ridden a 200k yet but plan to soon. On rides longer than 100k or so, I
 find that I need eat way more than you describe. I totally over ate on a
 century a few months ago and got a bit sick post ride(no more pizza!) 

[RBW] Rivendell Redwood size 65cm

[Karl Wilcox]

I am looking for a 65cm Rivendell Redwood frameset.  If anyone on the RBW 
list has one to sell or knows of one that might be sold, please let me 
know-- I purchased a new Redwood some years ago, but I got the 68cm, and it 
was too big for me.  I also tried the Roadini, but while the sizing was 
perfect, I found the frame too stiff for my style of riding.
Cheers,
Karl
Weimar, CA.

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[RBW] FS Sackville CLEMBASACK

[Brendan McLaughlin]

This bag is in the Light Grey Grid color and is lightly used. 

There is slight wear around the top seam and a tiny stain on the surface of 
the top of the bag you can see if you look closely squint.

$50 plus shipping anywhere in Continental U.S.

Photos HERE: https://link.shutterfly.com/R8aU3KZVHjb

Thanks!

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[RBW] Re: Will Rivendell shifters work on Paul Thumbie mounts?

[EricP]

No. I tried. You need the center post which the Paul doesn't have.

The Sunrace mount will work, but the center post supplied is too short. One 
needs to use either a Shimano bar end center post or something similar. 
Just went through that whole issue on my Sam Hillborne. Ended up just using 
it as a bar end shifter. 

Eric Platt
St. Paul, MN

On Saturday, October 2, 2021 at 9:57:34 AM UTC-5 Ray Varella wrote:

> Thanks Garth,
> I should have looked there first. 
>
> Cheers,
> Ray
>
> On Saturday, October 2, 2021 at 2:58:05 AM UTC-7 Garth wrote:
>
>> That's a no-go Ray, as Rivendell states on their thumbie product page and 
>> as Joe confirmed in your other post. 
>> On Friday, October 1, 2021 at 11:50:47 PM UTC-4 Ray Varella wrote:
>>
>>> Has anyone tried mounting their Rivendell shifters to Paul’s thumbie 
>>> mounts?
>>> If so, did they work well enough?
>>>
>>> Thank you 
>>> Ray
>>>
>>>

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[RBW] Re: WTB Silver shifter mounts

[Ray Varella]

I would have guessed you had tinkered with this configuration Joe. 

Thank you 
Ray

On Friday, October 1, 2021 at 8:51:26 PM UTC-7 Joe Bernard wrote:

> I tried it, the barrels on the Silvers are bigger than the old downtube 
> levers and scraped on the Paul Thumbies mounts. Plus you would need the 
> adapter Paul used to sell. 
>
> Joe Bernard
>
> On Friday, October 1, 2021 at 8:39:41 PM UTC-7 Ray Varella wrote:
>
>> Hi Joyce,
>> Thank you for the offer. 
>> Your experience has me wondering if the Paul thumbie mounts (did I say 
>> that right?) will work with the Riv shifters?
>> I do have a set of them here. I’m going to explore that and I’ll get back 
>> to you on the VO mounts. 
>>
>> Meanwhile, does anyone know if the Paul’s work with the Riv shifters?
>> Does it warrant a new post?
>>
>> The Platypuses are some of the nicest bikes Rivendell has made. 
>> I really like watching how their bikes evolve over the years…they get 
>> very thoroughly tested during development, I’ll go revisit the posts where 
>> people have shared theirs. 
>>
>> Cheers 
>> Ray
>>
>> On Friday, October 1, 2021 at 9:10:12 AM UTC-7 JAS wrote:
>>
>>> Ray, I recently went through the same problem with my Platypus.  After 
>>> some research, I bought a set of thumbshifter mounts from Velo Orange which 
>>> will work with the silver shifters.  Meanwhile, the silver mounts came 
>>> available and I was lucky to get them!  They went on the bike instead.  I'd 
>>> be happy to sell you the Velo Orange mounts if you decide to go that 
>>> route.  One of them was mounted then removed before the bike was ridden, 
>>> the other never got out of the box. 
>>>
>>> --Joyce
>>>
>>> On Friday, October 1, 2021 at 5:37:41 AM UTC-7 Ray Varella wrote:
>>>
 Hi All,
 Does anyone have a pair of the new Rivendell thumbshifter mounts they 
 are willing to part with?
 Rivendell is currently sold out 
 I wouldn’t be opposed to buying them with the shifters as well but I 
 have shifters. 

 Thank you,
 Ray

>>>

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[RBW] Re: Will Rivendell shifters work on Paul Thumbie mounts?

[Ray Varella]

Thanks Garth,
I should have looked there first. 

Cheers,
Ray

On Saturday, October 2, 2021 at 2:58:05 AM UTC-7 Garth wrote:

> That's a no-go Ray, as Rivendell states on their thumbie product page and 
> as Joe confirmed in your other post. 
> On Friday, October 1, 2021 at 11:50:47 PM UTC-4 Ray Varella wrote:
>
>> Has anyone tried mounting their Rivendell shifters to Paul’s thumbie 
>> mounts?
>> If so, did they work well enough?
>>
>> Thank you 
>> Ray
>>
>>

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Re: [RBW] Re: FS 2021 60cm Appaloosa frameset

[Kevin Lochner]

Jim, sure is. Feel free to pm if you'd like more details.

I'll also note that where local folks are concerned, I'm fine to sell as a
complete +/- the lighting system.

Thanks.

On Sat, Oct 2, 2021, 12:38 AM Jim Plaugher  wrote:

> Kevin, is this still available?
> Jim in Lansing Iowa
> On Sunday, September 26, 2021 at 6:14:27 PM UTC-5 Kevin wrote:
>
>> [image: IMG_20210926_175807860_1.jpg]
>>  Here's a photo in its current incarnation. Can send more detailed shots
>> of the frame on request.
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[RBW] Re: Will Rivendell shifters work on Paul Thumbie mounts?

[Garth]

That's a no-go Ray, as Rivendell states on their thumbie product page and 
as Joe confirmed in your other post. 
On Friday, October 1, 2021 at 11:50:47 PM UTC-4 Ray Varella wrote:

> Has anyone tried mounting their Rivendell shifters to Paul’s thumbie 
> mounts?
> If so, did they work well enough?
>
> Thank you 
> Ray
>
>

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