[RBW] Re: How do you track mileage?

[Ed Carolipio]

I have a Garmin Edge 810 and quarter turn Garmin mounts for each of my 
bikes (about $6/ea). I move the Edge from bike to bike - it has an option 
to tag which bike you've mounted it on - and use it as an overpriced cycle 
computer while it's on the bike. It records the ride reliably with three 
button presses (one at start, one at end, one to say "yes, I want to 
save.") The Edge 810 has Bluetooth (which I usually leave off) so once in a 
while I turn that on and it automagically syncs data to my Garmin account 
via an app on my phone. I set up my Garmin account to mirror the data to my 
ridewithgps and Strava accounts, and use tools at those sites to analyze 
the rides.

--Ed C.
On Tuesday, March 1, 2022 at 1:13:11 PM UTC-8 jmlmu...@gmail.com wrote:

> How is everyone keeping track of mileage on your bikes? I’m curious what 
> methods people are using. 
>
> I’ve occasionally tracked with a GPS watch only to never look back at the 
> data, let alone tally up a cumulative mileage count. I mostly ride without 
> tracking as it makes it less about the stats and more about the ride. But 
> it would be fun to know how much I rode in a year, over the course of 
> owning a bike, etc. I wish I knew how many miles are on the first Brooks 
> saddle that I bought 15 or so years ago. 
>
> I was inspired by Pam’s post about 63,000 miles on a bike and Rapid Rise 
> RD. How did you come up with that number?! How does everyone else who keeps 
> track keep track?
>
> Joe M. 
> Los Angeles
>
>
>

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[RBW] Re: WTB: Acorn handlebar bag (older version)

[John Rinker]

Going to BUMP this 'cause I'm still hoping someone might have this version 
of the bag that needs more adventure in its life. 

Cheers, John

On Wednesday, September 22, 2021 at 1:42:36 PM UTC+9 John Rinker wrote:

> Greetings Pedalers,
>
> I'm looking for an discontinued version of the Acorn handlebar bag. Should 
> you have one trapped in a box, bin, or closet and in need of further 
> adventures, let me know.
> [image: Acorn Bag.png]
> Cheers,
> John
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Re: [RBW] How do you track mileage?

[Patrick Moore]

My spreadshheets goes back a decade at least, long before I used
Cyclemeter. I use the free version.

On Tue, Mar 1, 2022 at 7:00 PM Richard Rose  wrote:

> I recently figured out how to let Cyclemeter do that for you. No need for
> the spreadsheet.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Mar 1, 2022, at 8:34 PM, Patrick Moore  wrote:
>
> 
> I use Cyclemeter on my iPhone and then add date, miles ridden, and v brief
> route description into Excel sheet that tracks yearly and cumulative miles
> for each bike.
>
>
>
>
> On Tue, Mar 1, 2022 at 2:13 PM Joe Mullins  wrote:
>
>> How is everyone keeping track of mileage on your bikes? I’m curious what
>> methods people are using.
>>
>> I’ve occasionally tracked with a GPS watch only to never look back at the
>> data, let alone tally up a cumulative mileage count. I mostly ride without
>> tracking as it makes it less about the stats and more about the ride. But
>> it would be fun to know how much I rode in a year, over the course of
>> owning a bike, etc. I wish I knew how many miles are on the first Brooks
>> saddle that I bought 15 or so years ago.
>>
>> I was inspired by Pam’s post about 63,000 miles on a bike and Rapid Rise
>> RD. How did you come up with that number?! How does everyone else who keeps
>> track keep track?
>>
>> Joe M.
>> Los Angeles
>>
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Re: [RBW] How do you track mileage?

[Richard Rose]

I recently figured out how to let Cyclemeter do that for you. No need for the 
spreadsheet.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Mar 1, 2022, at 8:34 PM, Patrick Moore  wrote:
> 
> 
> I use Cyclemeter on my iPhone and then add date, miles ridden, and v brief 
> route description into Excel sheet that tracks yearly and cumulative miles 
> for each bike.
> 
> 
>  
> 
>> On Tue, Mar 1, 2022 at 2:13 PM Joe Mullins  wrote:
>> How is everyone keeping track of mileage on your bikes? I’m curious what 
>> methods people are using. 
>> 
>> I’ve occasionally tracked with a GPS watch only to never look back at the 
>> data, let alone tally up a cumulative mileage count. I mostly ride without 
>> tracking as it makes it less about the stats and more about the ride. But it 
>> would be fun to know how much I rode in a year, over the course of owning a 
>> bike, etc. I wish I knew how many miles are on the first Brooks saddle that 
>> I bought 15 or so years ago. 
>> 
>> I was inspired by Pam’s post about 63,000 miles on a bike and Rapid Rise RD. 
>> How did you come up with that number?! How does everyone else who keeps 
>> track keep track?
>> 
>> Joe M. 
>> Los Angeles
>> 
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Re: [RBW] How do you track mileage?

[Patrick Moore]

I use Cyclemeter on my iPhone and then add date, miles ridden, and v brief
route description into Excel sheet that tracks yearly and cumulative miles
for each bike.




On Tue, Mar 1, 2022 at 2:13 PM Joe Mullins  wrote:

> How is everyone keeping track of mileage on your bikes? I’m curious what
> methods people are using.
>
> I’ve occasionally tracked with a GPS watch only to never look back at the
> data, let alone tally up a cumulative mileage count. I mostly ride without
> tracking as it makes it less about the stats and more about the ride. But
> it would be fun to know how much I rode in a year, over the course of
> owning a bike, etc. I wish I knew how many miles are on the first Brooks
> saddle that I bought 15 or so years ago.
>
> I was inspired by Pam’s post about 63,000 miles on a bike and Rapid Rise
> RD. How did you come up with that number?! How does everyone else who keeps
> track keep track?
>
> Joe M.
> Los Angeles
>
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[RBW] Re: FS(Bay Area): 58? Quickbeam

[Mike Godwin]

Nice rig, glad its too small.
Mike SLO CA

On Tuesday, March 1, 2022 at 4:55:56 PM UTC-8 diekaiser wrote:

> Alright, I can confirm it's a 56. Sorry folks! And thank you Christopher 
> for pointing this out. The standover from the catalog was throwing me off 
> since I didn't catch the note that it was measured at "mid TT". Maybe this 
> will open up the flood gates to all those 56 riders 拾.
> On Tuesday, March 1, 2022 at 4:41:35 PM UTC-8 diekaiser wrote:
>
>> Hey Christopher, yea I was wondering about this exact thing as I acquired 
>> it from Miles (my good friend from the thread above) shortly after he got 
>> it. I suppose with only the 1/2cm difference in top tube length between the 
>> 56/58 models that I may have read  the tape incorrectly and in fact, made 
>> the same mistake as the original owner/seller. I'm going to go measure 
>> again out of curiosity and will post my findings. 
>>
>> Anyone out there with a 58 able to measure their head tube?
>> On Tuesday, March 1, 2022 at 1:45:23 PM UTC-8 Christopher Cote wrote:
>>
>>> FWIW, I'm pretty sure your bike has a 56cm frame. See this thread:
>>>
>>> https://groups.google.com/g/rbw-owners-bunch/c/YAadV8nicJI/m/07IzFtYGAwAJ
>>>
>>> Beautiful bike, I'm very tempted by it, but ~3000 miles away. I hope it 
>>> finds a loving home!
>>>
>>> Chris
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, March 1, 2022 at 11:41:47 AM UTC-5 diekaiser wrote:
>>>
 Since someone asked: Standover is 82.25cm with the current 700x38 
 Panaracer EXT tires and Velocity Atlas rims.


 On Monday, February 28, 2022 at 4:20:48 PM UTC-8 diekaiser wrote:

> Hey all. With regret, I'm selling my Quickbeam. Unfortunately living 
> in a studio doesn't accommodate owning 4+ bikes and the Quickbeam didn't 
> make the cut. I'm heading up to SF on March 5th for a birthday roadtrip 
> to 
> Oregon and will be there for the weekend if you would like to check it 
> out.
>
>  I was having a hard time figuring out which size model it is from the 
> Riv catalogs but it has a 57cm top tube and a 56cm seat tube (I measured 
> center to center) which I believe puts it at the 58cm model. 
>
> Sale includes Frame, fork, headset, bottom bracket, seat post, and 
> wheel set. Unfortunately, I don't have a spare set of brakes as they are 
> moving to a different bike along with the crankset. I figured the cockpit 
> would be purely preferential. With that said, I have a selection of nitto 
> bars if someone would like to inquire. 
>
> I'd say the condition is great as in there are no dents, large 
> scratches, etc but the decals are a bit scratched up from locking etc. 
> The 
> only other thing that I didn't know about when I bought it was that the 
> front-left fender eyelet may be stripped. I'll investigate more closely 
> soon but just wanted to mention it.
>
> *Details*
> Tange Levin headset
> Shimano BB (I don't remember the exact width but I believe it is the 
> one that came stock)
> Nitto 83 seat post
> 36h Dura-Ace 7600 track hubs (fixed/fixed)
> White Industries 19t freewheel
> 36h Velocity Atlas rims (non-machined)
> 700x38 Panaracer Gravelking EXTs (if you would like them).
>
> $1300, but if that doesn't sound reasonable I'm more than happy to 
> chat about it.
>
> Here are some photos of the different iterations in which it has been 
> set up 
> 
> .
>
> I'll add some more detail photos to the same link shortly.
>
>
>
>
>

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[RBW] Re: FS(Bay Area): 58? Quickbeam

[diekaiser]

Alright, I can confirm it's a 56. Sorry folks! And thank you Christopher 
for pointing this out. The standover from the catalog was throwing me off 
since I didn't catch the note that it was measured at "mid TT". Maybe this 
will open up the flood gates to all those 56 riders 拾.
On Tuesday, March 1, 2022 at 4:41:35 PM UTC-8 diekaiser wrote:

> Hey Christopher, yea I was wondering about this exact thing as I acquired 
> it from Miles (my good friend from the thread above) shortly after he got 
> it. I suppose with only the 1/2cm difference in top tube length between the 
> 56/58 models that I may have read  the tape incorrectly and in fact, made 
> the same mistake as the original owner/seller. I'm going to go measure 
> again out of curiosity and will post my findings. 
>
> Anyone out there with a 58 able to measure their head tube?
> On Tuesday, March 1, 2022 at 1:45:23 PM UTC-8 Christopher Cote wrote:
>
>> FWIW, I'm pretty sure your bike has a 56cm frame. See this thread:
>>
>> https://groups.google.com/g/rbw-owners-bunch/c/YAadV8nicJI/m/07IzFtYGAwAJ
>>
>> Beautiful bike, I'm very tempted by it, but ~3000 miles away. I hope it 
>> finds a loving home!
>>
>> Chris
>>
>>
>> On Tuesday, March 1, 2022 at 11:41:47 AM UTC-5 diekaiser wrote:
>>
>>> Since someone asked: Standover is 82.25cm with the current 700x38 
>>> Panaracer EXT tires and Velocity Atlas rims.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Monday, February 28, 2022 at 4:20:48 PM UTC-8 diekaiser wrote:
>>>
 Hey all. With regret, I'm selling my Quickbeam. Unfortunately living in 
 a studio doesn't accommodate owning 4+ bikes and the Quickbeam didn't make 
 the cut. I'm heading up to SF on March 5th for a birthday roadtrip to 
 Oregon and will be there for the weekend if you would like to check it out.

  I was having a hard time figuring out which size model it is from the 
 Riv catalogs but it has a 57cm top tube and a 56cm seat tube (I measured 
 center to center) which I believe puts it at the 58cm model. 

 Sale includes Frame, fork, headset, bottom bracket, seat post, and 
 wheel set. Unfortunately, I don't have a spare set of brakes as they are 
 moving to a different bike along with the crankset. I figured the cockpit 
 would be purely preferential. With that said, I have a selection of nitto 
 bars if someone would like to inquire. 

 I'd say the condition is great as in there are no dents, large 
 scratches, etc but the decals are a bit scratched up from locking etc. The 
 only other thing that I didn't know about when I bought it was that the 
 front-left fender eyelet may be stripped. I'll investigate more closely 
 soon but just wanted to mention it.

 *Details*
 Tange Levin headset
 Shimano BB (I don't remember the exact width but I believe it is the 
 one that came stock)
 Nitto 83 seat post
 36h Dura-Ace 7600 track hubs (fixed/fixed)
 White Industries 19t freewheel
 36h Velocity Atlas rims (non-machined)
 700x38 Panaracer Gravelking EXTs (if you would like them).

 $1300, but if that doesn't sound reasonable I'm more than happy to chat 
 about it.

 Here are some photos of the different iterations in which it has been 
 set up 
 
 .

 I'll add some more detail photos to the same link shortly.






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[RBW] Re: FS(Bay Area): 58? Quickbeam

[diekaiser]

Hey Christopher, yea I was wondering about this exact thing as I acquired 
it from Miles (my good friend from the thread above) shortly after he got 
it. I suppose with only the 1/2cm difference in top tube length between the 
56/58 models that I may have read  the tape incorrectly and in fact, made 
the same mistake as the original owner/seller. I'm going to go measure 
again out of curiosity and will post my findings. 

Anyone out there with a 58 able to measure their head tube?
On Tuesday, March 1, 2022 at 1:45:23 PM UTC-8 Christopher Cote wrote:

> FWIW, I'm pretty sure your bike has a 56cm frame. See this thread:
>
> https://groups.google.com/g/rbw-owners-bunch/c/YAadV8nicJI/m/07IzFtYGAwAJ
>
> Beautiful bike, I'm very tempted by it, but ~3000 miles away. I hope it 
> finds a loving home!
>
> Chris
>
>
> On Tuesday, March 1, 2022 at 11:41:47 AM UTC-5 diekaiser wrote:
>
>> Since someone asked: Standover is 82.25cm with the current 700x38 
>> Panaracer EXT tires and Velocity Atlas rims.
>>
>>
>> On Monday, February 28, 2022 at 4:20:48 PM UTC-8 diekaiser wrote:
>>
>>> Hey all. With regret, I'm selling my Quickbeam. Unfortunately living in 
>>> a studio doesn't accommodate owning 4+ bikes and the Quickbeam didn't make 
>>> the cut. I'm heading up to SF on March 5th for a birthday roadtrip to 
>>> Oregon and will be there for the weekend if you would like to check it out.
>>>
>>>  I was having a hard time figuring out which size model it is from the 
>>> Riv catalogs but it has a 57cm top tube and a 56cm seat tube (I measured 
>>> center to center) which I believe puts it at the 58cm model. 
>>>
>>> Sale includes Frame, fork, headset, bottom bracket, seat post, and wheel 
>>> set. Unfortunately, I don't have a spare set of brakes as they are moving 
>>> to a different bike along with the crankset. I figured the cockpit would be 
>>> purely preferential. With that said, I have a selection of nitto bars if 
>>> someone would like to inquire. 
>>>
>>> I'd say the condition is great as in there are no dents, large 
>>> scratches, etc but the decals are a bit scratched up from locking etc. The 
>>> only other thing that I didn't know about when I bought it was that the 
>>> front-left fender eyelet may be stripped. I'll investigate more closely 
>>> soon but just wanted to mention it.
>>>
>>> *Details*
>>> Tange Levin headset
>>> Shimano BB (I don't remember the exact width but I believe it is the one 
>>> that came stock)
>>> Nitto 83 seat post
>>> 36h Dura-Ace 7600 track hubs (fixed/fixed)
>>> White Industries 19t freewheel
>>> 36h Velocity Atlas rims (non-machined)
>>> 700x38 Panaracer Gravelking EXTs (if you would like them).
>>>
>>> $1300, but if that doesn't sound reasonable I'm more than happy to chat 
>>> about it.
>>>
>>> Here are some photos of the different iterations in which it has been 
>>> set up 
>>> 
>>> .
>>>
>>> I'll add some more detail photos to the same link shortly.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>

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[RBW] Re: FS: 59cm Waterford Roadeo

[Gabriel Bruguier]

Bump

On Saturday, February 12, 2022 at 11:16:36 AM UTC-6 Gabriel Bruguier wrote:

> Bump: bike is still available.  I have some offers for the frame and 
> assorted parts, but would strongly prefer to sell the complete.  Please 
> make an offer if interested in complete.
>
> On Friday, February 4, 2022 at 4:12:27 PM UTC-6 Gabriel Bruguier wrote:
>
>> Thank you, Jonathan!!!  
>>
>> Thanks for your question, Bill!  Yes, the rear hub is still 135mm.  I 
>> didn't spread out the rear spacing on the frame to 135mm, but when I was 
>> initially building up the bike I thought I might have to.  However, I found 
>> that the rear wheel installed with less fight than I expected, or, than I 
>> have experienced with other frames I've squeezed oversized hubs into.  And 
>> the wheel was aligned fine in the stays, at least upon visual inspection.  
>> So I suspected that it might have been spread by a previous owner, though I 
>> never measured or looked into it any further.  It rode beautifully so I 
>> didn't pursue it further, though I'd be willing to if it is a concern for a 
>> future buyer.
>>
>> On Friday, February 4, 2022 at 2:45:15 PM UTC-6 Bill Lindsay wrote:
>>
>>> I own a 59cm Roadeo and it is indeed a terrific road bike.  On behalf of 
>>> your potential customers, I guess I have a question.  The Roadeo is clearly 
>>> a straight ahead conventional and contemporary road frameset.  As such it 
>>> is built from the factory with 130mm spacing, to take any normal road 
>>> wheelset.  Your build list indicates you are running Deore XT hubs, which 
>>> by definition are 135mm.  Can you clear up that apparent mismatch?  Was the 
>>> frameset spread out by you or a previous owner from 130 to 135mm?  Was the 
>>> rear hub respaced to 130mm by the shop that built the wheelset?  Or are you 
>>> just squeezing it in there and it seems to work?  Lots of other Rivendells 
>>> are 135mm in back, like the Atlantis, A Homer Hilsen and Hillborne, among 
>>> others.  Some historical Rivendells were deliberately made with 132.5mm 
>>> spacing so they'd take either/or.  The Romulus was one of those.  Perhaps 
>>> your buyer would like to hear the story there.  
>>>
>>> Bill Lindsay
>>> El Cerrito, CA
>>>
>>> On Thursday, January 13, 2022 at 5:07:33 PM UTC-8 Gabriel Bruguier wrote:
>>>
 Hello all,

 Up for sale is my 59cm Roadeo, built by Waterford, with threaded fork.  
 It is the Maroon colorway shown on the Riv product page 
  (or very close to that 
 color).  This frame has mid-fork eyelets installed.  As far as I know, I 
 am 
 the third owner.  I bought it off a fellow RBWOB lister last winter, rode 
 it over the spring and summer, but it has been stored in the garage since 
 then.  I love the bike but I don't foresee as much use as I'd like, and 
 would rather send it on to a new home.

 Frame is in good used shape.  There are plenty of signs of beausage on 
 the paint, but no dents or rust.  I sprayed it with Boeshield before 
 building it up.  It has never been crashed to my knowledge.

 Here's Riv's geometry chart with a link to PBH sizing recommendations. 
   My PBH is 
 right around 85, and this size worked for me.

 Photos are here. 
 
  

 The build list is below.  The front der, wheels, brakes, brake levers, 
 and shifters were from a previous build, but are in good shape.  Though 
 there is some scraping on shifters and levers.  All other parts were 
 bought 
 new.

 I am asking $3500 for the complete bike, plus LBS packing fee, and 
 shipping to lower 48.  Located in Lincoln, NE.  I am not interested in 
 trades.  I might be open to parting it out, if there isn't interest in the 
 complete.

 Please contact me off list with questions or offers.  Thank you for 
 reading,
 -Gabe

 Cockpit: 
 Nitto/Crust Shaka bars, 54cm
 Nitto/Crust stem (30 degree, 60mm)
 TRP RRL SL levers
 Microshift bar ends, 11 sp
 ESI bar tape
 Cane Creek 100 headset

 Drivetrain:
 Wheels: Velocity A23 rims, XT hubs, hand built at Monkey Wrench Cyles 
 
 Butted spokes, black hardware
 Compass Barlow Pass EL
 Tubes with Orange Seal sealant
 White Industries R30 double crankset (46tX36t)
 White Industries bottom bracket
 Simworks bubbly pedals
 Ultegra rear der (11 speed)
 9 Sp XT cassette 11-32
 105 front der

 Brakes:
 Paul Racer centerpulls
 Paul Funky Monkey cable stop
 Paul Moon units

 Saddle: Brooks C17 carved
 Seatpost: Nitto S65

 (Spurcycle bell in photos is not included) 

Re: [RBW] How do you track mileage?

[rltilley]

I use a Garmin watch (Fenix 5+ currently) to record all of my rides. The data 
all goes up to Garmin’s cloud and I have it automatically sent to Strava as 
well. I don’t look at the data much but I can easily see it on the Garmin app 
on my phone. It includes ride data along with heart rate, calories burned, etc.

I like it because I can assign a bike to each ride as well so I know the 
mileage per bike which can be good for maintenance purposes. The watch starts 
recording by pushing a single button three times so there is very little for me 
to do to get it all recorded. 

Robert Tilley
San Diego, CA

Sent from my iPhone

> On Mar 1, 2022, at 1:13 PM, Joe Mullins  wrote:
> 
> How is everyone keeping track of mileage on your bikes? I’m curious what 
> methods people are using. 
> 
> I’ve occasionally tracked with a GPS watch only to never look back at the 
> data, let alone tally up a cumulative mileage count. I mostly ride without 
> tracking as it makes it less about the stats and more about the ride. But it 
> would be fun to know how much I rode in a year, over the course of owning a 
> bike, etc. I wish I knew how many miles are on the first Brooks saddle that I 
> bought 15 or so years ago. 
> 
> I was inspired by Pam’s post about 63,000 miles on a bike and Rapid Rise RD. 
> How did you come up with that number?! How does everyone else who keeps track 
> keep track?
> 
> Joe M. 
> Los Angeles
> 
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[RBW] Re: How do you track mileage?

[Johnny Alien]

I do the same. Quadlock for the phone and run the free Strava app.  I think 
you can have different bike profiles so you can log how many miles per bike 
as well as total.

On Tuesday, March 1, 2022 at 4:41:04 PM UTC-5 lconley wrote:

> In the late 60s/early 70s I had a Schwinn StingRay with a cable driven 
> speedometer/odometer - did my 1st 50 miler on that bike. In the 70's and 
> 80s, I used the Huret belt driven odometer with trip meter that mounted off 
> the axle. I kept detailed records for a few years, graphed it on graph 
> paper. That was back when doing a 75 mile ride was called Sunday. In the 
> early 2000s I had a variety of electronic meters. I haven't had anything 
> mounted on the bike for years until recently, when I put a RokForm mount 
> (similar to quadlock) on the bike for the phone and use the free version of 
> Strava, but I that is mostly to see what I did that day, haven't kept track 
> of annual or total mileage since the 80s.
>
> Laing
>
> On Tuesday, March 1, 2022 at 4:13:11 PM UTC-5 jmlmu...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> How is everyone keeping track of mileage on your bikes? I’m curious what 
>> methods people are using. 
>>
>> I’ve occasionally tracked with a GPS watch only to never look back at the 
>> data, let alone tally up a cumulative mileage count. I mostly ride without 
>> tracking as it makes it less about the stats and more about the ride. But 
>> it would be fun to know how much I rode in a year, over the course of 
>> owning a bike, etc. I wish I knew how many miles are on the first Brooks 
>> saddle that I bought 15 or so years ago. 
>>
>> I was inspired by Pam’s post about 63,000 miles on a bike and Rapid Rise 
>> RD. How did you come up with that number?! How does everyone else who keeps 
>> track keep track? 
>>
>> Joe M. 
>> Los Angeles 
>>
>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: FS(Bay Area): 58? Quickbeam

[Christopher Cote]

FWIW, I'm pretty sure your bike has a 56cm frame. See this thread:

https://groups.google.com/g/rbw-owners-bunch/c/YAadV8nicJI/m/07IzFtYGAwAJ

Beautiful bike, I'm very tempted by it, but ~3000 miles away. I hope it 
finds a loving home!

Chris


On Tuesday, March 1, 2022 at 11:41:47 AM UTC-5 diekaiser wrote:

> Since someone asked: Standover is 82.25cm with the current 700x38 
> Panaracer EXT tires and Velocity Atlas rims.
>
>
> On Monday, February 28, 2022 at 4:20:48 PM UTC-8 diekaiser wrote:
>
>> Hey all. With regret, I'm selling my Quickbeam. Unfortunately living in a 
>> studio doesn't accommodate owning 4+ bikes and the Quickbeam didn't make 
>> the cut. I'm heading up to SF on March 5th for a birthday roadtrip to 
>> Oregon and will be there for the weekend if you would like to check it out.
>>
>>  I was having a hard time figuring out which size model it is from the 
>> Riv catalogs but it has a 57cm top tube and a 56cm seat tube (I measured 
>> center to center) which I believe puts it at the 58cm model. 
>>
>> Sale includes Frame, fork, headset, bottom bracket, seat post, and wheel 
>> set. Unfortunately, I don't have a spare set of brakes as they are moving 
>> to a different bike along with the crankset. I figured the cockpit would be 
>> purely preferential. With that said, I have a selection of nitto bars if 
>> someone would like to inquire. 
>>
>> I'd say the condition is great as in there are no dents, large scratches, 
>> etc but the decals are a bit scratched up from locking etc. The only other 
>> thing that I didn't know about when I bought it was that the front-left 
>> fender eyelet may be stripped. I'll investigate more closely soon but just 
>> wanted to mention it.
>>
>> *Details*
>> Tange Levin headset
>> Shimano BB (I don't remember the exact width but I believe it is the one 
>> that came stock)
>> Nitto 83 seat post
>> 36h Dura-Ace 7600 track hubs (fixed/fixed)
>> White Industries 19t freewheel
>> 36h Velocity Atlas rims (non-machined)
>> 700x38 Panaracer Gravelking EXTs (if you would like them).
>>
>> $1300, but if that doesn't sound reasonable I'm more than happy to chat 
>> about it.
>>
>> Here are some photos of the different iterations in which it has been set 
>> up 
>> .
>>
>> I'll add some more detail photos to the same link shortly.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: How do you track mileage?

[lconley]

In the late 60s/early 70s I had a Schwinn StingRay with a cable driven 
speedometer/odometer - did my 1st 50 miler on that bike. In the 70's and 
80s, I used the Huret belt driven odometer with trip meter that mounted off 
the axle. I kept detailed records for a few years, graphed it on graph 
paper. That was back when doing a 75 mile ride was called Sunday. In the 
early 2000s I had a variety of electronic meters. I haven't had anything 
mounted on the bike for years until recently, when I put a RokForm mount 
(similar to quadlock) on the bike for the phone and use the free version of 
Strava, but I that is mostly to see what I did that day, haven't kept track 
of annual or total mileage since the 80s.

Laing

On Tuesday, March 1, 2022 at 4:13:11 PM UTC-5 jmlmu...@gmail.com wrote:

> How is everyone keeping track of mileage on your bikes? I’m curious what 
> methods people are using. 
>
> I’ve occasionally tracked with a GPS watch only to never look back at the 
> data, let alone tally up a cumulative mileage count. I mostly ride without 
> tracking as it makes it less about the stats and more about the ride. But 
> it would be fun to know how much I rode in a year, over the course of 
> owning a bike, etc. I wish I knew how many miles are on the first Brooks 
> saddle that I bought 15 or so years ago. 
>
> I was inspired by Pam’s post about 63,000 miles on a bike and Rapid Rise 
> RD. How did you come up with that number?! How does everyone else who keeps 
> track keep track?
>
> Joe M. 
> Los Angeles
>
>
>

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Re: [RBW] How do you track mileage?

[Richard Rose]

I am with you 100% regarding not really caring about the data. Still, I like to 
“look back” at my rides & yes, distance travelled. Speed does not matter to me 
but honestly, hours might matter more than distance. For all of these reasons I 
really like the Cyclemeter app on my I phone. The free version gets annoying 
but the $9.99 per year “premium” offers more info & no advertising. It’s the 
only thing I have used for as far back as I can remember.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Mar 1, 2022, at 4:13 PM, Joe Mullins  wrote:
> 
> How is everyone keeping track of mileage on your bikes? I’m curious what 
> methods people are using. 
> 
> I’ve occasionally tracked with a GPS watch only to never look back at the 
> data, let alone tally up a cumulative mileage count. I mostly ride without 
> tracking as it makes it less about the stats and more about the ride. But it 
> would be fun to know how much I rode in a year, over the course of owning a 
> bike, etc. I wish I knew how many miles are on the first Brooks saddle that I 
> bought 15 or so years ago. 
> 
> I was inspired by Pam’s post about 63,000 miles on a bike and Rapid Rise RD. 
> How did you come up with that number?! How does everyone else who keeps track 
> keep track?
> 
> Joe M. 
> Los Angeles
> 
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[RBW] How do you track mileage?

[Joe Mullins]

How is everyone keeping track of mileage on your bikes? I’m curious what 
methods people are using. 

I’ve occasionally tracked with a GPS watch only to never look back at the data, 
let alone tally up a cumulative mileage count. I mostly ride without tracking 
as it makes it less about the stats and more about the ride. But it would be 
fun to know how much I rode in a year, over the course of owning a bike, etc. I 
wish I knew how many miles are on the first Brooks saddle that I bought 15 or 
so years ago. 

I was inspired by Pam’s post about 63,000 miles on a bike and Rapid Rise RD. 
How did you come up with that number?! How does everyone else who keeps track 
keep track?

Joe M. 
Los Angeles


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[RBW] FS: Rough Stuff book, bar end shifters, Suntour barcons, etc.

[Eric Marth]

Further updates and some price reductions. Thanks everyone!

Pictures are here 


1. Further Adventures in Rough Stuff – 
*$25*Pretty much as new. Read it, set it aside. In nice shape! 

2. Velo Orange threadless stem – 
*$15*It’s a 17º rise stem, 8cm with a 25.4 bar clamp diameter. For 1-1/8” 
steerer clamp. Installed, never ridden. 

3. *SOLD *Blue Lug threadless stem cap – $15
With some lovely patina and weathering. 

4. *SOLD *Nitto wire saddle bag guard — $30
Rubber and metal in nice shape.

5. *SOLD *Nitto Technomic Deluxe 6cm stem – $65
With a 26.0mm clamp diameter, 190mm overall length, 100mm useable length. 
Mounted, never ridden.

6. Velocity skewers —
* $10*100 front, 135 rear. 

7. Shimano bar end shifters – $60
Some lite scuffs, good shape! *These are the SL BS-78 Dura Ace model. * 

8. Dia Compe 981 short pull levers – 
*$10*Really big Dia Compe levers from an MB-3. With overspray from silver 
spray paint (I didn’t do it!). It’s a gd amount of silver paint, 
pictures don’t really show it. 

9. Oury Single Compound Grips – $12
Brand new, in da package, never installed. Black, made in USA. 

10. *SOLD *Foldylock Compact lock – 
*$40*Black, in good shape. Two keys included (despite one pictured) and 
mounting sleeve. 

11A.* SOLD* Shimano RD-1055 105 rear derailer – *$10*
Short cage, 7 speed. 

11. Shimano FD-1055 front derailer – 
*$10*With a 28.6 clamp, for 2x7. 

12. Brass cup washers – Four for $1
These fit nicely with Rivendell Silver 1 and Silver 2 shifters and I use 
them on both. Solid brass. Number 12 brass cup washers, also known as 
countersunk washers. 

13. *SOLD *Microshift RD-R47 R10 rear derailer – $35
The box rates this as max 28t in the rear but other members have reported 
it’ll shift up to 32t. Brand new in the box. Use with a double or triple. 

14. *SOLD *Blue Lug reflective triangles – $15/each
New with tags removed, never installed. Willing to sell separately. One 
blue and dark gray. One green and purple. Rare opportunity to know which 
colors you’re getting! 

15. *SOLD *Dia Compe 981 cantilever brakes – $20
Pads are shot! Could use a nice once over with some Simple Green and a 
brush. No hanger wires or clamps. 

16. Wald 137 basket — $10
Black, slightly warped and bent, a few spots of rust. Still a good, 
functional basket. 

17. Suntour Accushift barcons – $50
Some scrapes and scratches as shown. Seems they were dressed up a bit with 
Sharpie (notice the purple hues), both levers are like this. Nice movement, 
for friction or indexing but by all accounts work best for friction 
shifting. 

18. Shimano BR-AT50 cantilever brakes — $20
Pads are shot! Could use a nice once over with some Simple Green and a 
brush. 

19. Surly rear rack – $50
It's a big rear rack, painted black. Some chips through paint and surface 
rust. No structural damage. 
20. Soma toe strap pads – FREE
Four sets, all black, new in package. 
On Monday, February 28, 2022 at 11:44:32 AM UTC-5 Eric Marth wrote:

> A few updates and some price reductions. 
>
> Pictures are here. 
> 
>
> 1. Further Adventures in Rough Stuff – *$25*
>
>
> Pretty much as new. Read it, set it aside. In nice shape! 
>
> 2. Velo Orange threadless stem – *$15*
>
>
> It’s a 17º rise stem, 8cm with a 25.4 bar clamp diameter. For 1-1/8” 
> steerer clamp. Installed, never ridden. 
>
> 3. *SOLD *Blue Lug threadless stem cap – $15
> With some lovely patina and weathering. 
>
> 4. *SOLD *Nitto wire saddle bag guard — $30
> Rubber and metal in nice shape.
>
> 5. *SOLD *Nitto Technomic Deluxe 6cm stem – $65
>
>
> With a 26.0mm clamp diameter, 190mm overall length, 100mm useable length. 
> Mounted, never ridden.
>
> 6. Velocity skewers —* $10*
> 100 front, 135 rear. 
>
> 7. Shimano bar end shifters – $60
>
> Some lite scuffs, good shape! *These are the SL BS-78 Dura Ace model. * 
>
> 8. Dia Compe 981 short pull levers – *$10*
>
>
> Really big Dia Compe levers from an MB-3. With overspray from silver spray 
> paint (I didn’t do it!). It’s a gd amount of silver paint, pictures 
> don’t really show it. 
>
> 9. Oury Single Compound Grips – $12
> Brand new, in da package, never installed. Black, made in USA. 
>
> 10. Foldylock Compact lock – *$40*
>
>
> Black, in good shape. Two keys included (despite one pictured) and 
> mounting sleeve. 
>
> 11A. Shimano RD-1055 105 rear derailer – *$10*
> Short cage, 7 speed. 
>
> 11. Shimano FD-1055 front derailer – *$10*
>
>
> With a 28.6 clamp, for 2x7. 
>
> 12. Brass cup washers – Four for $1
> These fit nicely with Rivendell Silver 1 and Silver 2 shifters and I use 
> them on both. Solid brass. Number 12 brass cup washers, also known as 
> countersunk washers. 
>
> 13. *SOLD *Microshift RD-R47 R10 rear derailer – $35
> The box rates this as max 28t in the rear but other members have reported 
> it’ll shift up to 32t. 

[RBW] Re: FS: 54cm Roadini formerly owned by Grant Petersen

[Ezra Ewen]

Sold

On Thursday, February 24, 2022 at 6:19:31 PM UTC-8 Joe Bernard wrote:

> Yes, I had this size frame and 56.5 straight across sounds about right. 
>
> Joe Bernard
>
> On Thursday, February 24, 2022 at 5:41:24 PM UTC-8 ezra...@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>
>> Hi Brady :)
>>
>> I just measured the top-tube from center of seat-tube to the center of 
>> head-tube and it measured about 54.7cm
>>
>> And I believe since it has a slightly upward sloping top tube, the 56.5cm 
>> measurement is the "effective" top tube length, as mentioned above and in 
>> the geometry link. Thanks for that Damien.
>>
>> On Thursday, February 24, 2022 at 6:46:02 AM UTC-8 Brady Smith wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Ezra,
>>>
>>> Any idea on the TT measurements for this model? 
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> Brady
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, February 23, 2022 at 6:01:11 PM UTC-7 ezra...@gmail.com 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Unfortunately the day has come... I'm low on space/money and must sell 
 my beloved Roadini. This 2020 model was originally owned and ridden by 
 Grant Petersen for a few months as his personal bike. Then it was sold to 
 me by Rivendell as a demo at the end of 2020. Over the last year I have 
 made a fair share of changes and upgrades in order to make the bike fit me 
 better and ride a bit more sporty.

 -*54 cm Rivendell "Leo Roadini" Frame* (in really great shape other 
 than a few scuffs and nicks)
 -*Ritchey Zeta 700c Wheels* w/ Phantom flange 
 removable/interchangeable rear hub. Tubeless compatible, but run with 
 tubes 
 right now. Very light and strong. Under 1500g 
 -*32mm Bontrager R3 Brown Sidewall Hard-Case Lite TLR Road Tire* My 
 favorite road tires I've ever owned. Perfect mix of fast and supple/cushy 
 yet puncture resistant. Still haven't flatted with these. Tubeless 
 compatible, but run tubed currently. Still very new. Less than 200 miles.
 -*42cm Soma Highway One* handle bars
 -*100mm Nitto Pearl Stem*. Nitto's top of the line fanciest stem.
 -Rivendell Silver2 Friction Shifters
 -FSA Duron Headset
 -Microshift silver double front derailler
 -Shimano Acera rear derailleur (scuffed and scratched a little bit)
 -Clipper triple crank with 50t-30t double chainring setup. (This 50t is 
 a bit bigger than they recommend, but it totally works and gives more 
 range). Tip of crank arm scratched a little.
 -11-32t Cassette
 -Tekro R559 Brakes
 -Shimano Brake levers
 -Nitto Seatpost
 -Newbaums bar cloth bar tape. Left side is brand new.
 -Saddle, bottle cages, and pedals not included
 *Located in Los Angeles*

 *$1875 *
 *(Local pickup preferred, but will ship if buyer pays for 
 packing/shipping)*

 [image: IMG_4911.jpeg][image: IMG_4912.jpeg][image: IMG_4913.jpeg][image: 
 IMG_4915.jpeg][image: IMG_4916.jpeg][image: IMG_4917.jpeg][image: 
 IMG_4918.jpeg]

>>>

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[RBW] Re: Shellacing the Neubaums

[JohnS]

Thank you for the advice of using lighter coats, that should help prevent 
runs and drips. I put two coats on this time, so should be good for a 
while. Now onto mounting the Wald basket, always something.

JohnS

On Monday, February 28, 2022 at 11:59:16 AM UTC-5 eric...@gmail.com wrote:

> JohnS: It sounds like you have too much shellac in your brush. Submerge 
> the bristles of your brush only about a half inch and then lay off the 
> brush by wiping the end of the bristles on the underside of the rim of the 
> can. You only need enough to get a single even coat. Shellac dries quickly, 
> it won't be long until you're ready for the next application. 
>
> As Jstern mentions denatured alcohol is great for cleaning up any shellac 
> that ended up where you don't want it. Just dab a bit onto a rag and then 
> wipe the rag over your trouble area. 
>
> I don't cover the bike, sometimes I'll mask my bar end shifter pods with 
> blue painter's tape but I usually don't bother. 
>
> I haven't had any trouble handling the shellac, no issues with runs or 
> drips. I use a 1" wide chip brush and always lay off my brush on the inside 
> edge of the can. I clean my brush with denatured alcohol and have used the 
> same cheap brush for many shellac applications over the last several years. 
>
> Be warned! Shellac can and does go bad. I pulled an old can of amber 
> shellac out of our warehouse for my handlebars once. It never dried and was 
> still tacky and goopy days later. I removed it with denatured alcohol. 
> Better your bars than a furniture project! 
>
> It depends on the project but I typically like three coats of shellac. 
> On Monday, February 28, 2022 at 11:41:55 AM UTC-5 Johnny Alien wrote:
>
>> I never do loads of coats. I like just enough to provide some protection 
>> and keep the twine in place.  Usually just one coat honestly. I never cover 
>> anything. I am a rebel.
>>
>> On Monday, February 28, 2022 at 9:25:20 AM UTC-5 jrst...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> I always apply in very light coats. I end up using 6 or so coats.  Like 
>>> you I cover the front of the bike.  I use plastic drop cloths and lasting 
>>> tape.  Alcohol, denatured Alcohol can take the shellac off of the places 
>>> you do not want it. 
>>>
>>> On Sunday, February 27, 2022 at 5:23:28 PM UTC-5 JohnS wrote:
>>>
 Wrapped the Soma Oxfords (Albatross copy) on my '82 Stumpy today. 
 Shellac is very runny and just wants to go everywhere, I tried to mask the 
 front end of the bike and tipped it in the stand to keep from going where 
 it shouldn't. You really can't be too careful with it.

 JohnS

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>>>

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[RBW] Craigslist (and others) Bikes For Sale: 3

[Matthew Williams]

Atlantis
59cm
$2100
Sacramento, CA
https://sacramento.craigslist.org/bik/d/sacramento-rivendell-atlantis/7452233583.html


Wolbis Slugstone
56cm
$3000
San Francisco, CA
https://sfbay.craigslist.org/sfc/bik/d/san-francisco-rivendell-wolbis-susie/7452103617.html


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[RBW] Re: FS(Bay Area): 58? Quickbeam

[diekaiser]

Since someone asked: Standover is 82.25cm with the current 700x38 Panaracer 
EXT tires and Velocity Atlas rims.


On Monday, February 28, 2022 at 4:20:48 PM UTC-8 diekaiser wrote:

> Hey all. With regret, I'm selling my Quickbeam. Unfortunately living in a 
> studio doesn't accommodate owning 4+ bikes and the Quickbeam didn't make 
> the cut. I'm heading up to SF on March 5th for a birthday roadtrip to 
> Oregon and will be there for the weekend if you would like to check it out.
>
>  I was having a hard time figuring out which size model it is from the Riv 
> catalogs but it has a 57cm top tube and a 56cm seat tube (I measured center 
> to center) which I believe puts it at the 58cm model. 
>
> Sale includes Frame, fork, headset, bottom bracket, seat post, and wheel 
> set. Unfortunately, I don't have a spare set of brakes as they are moving 
> to a different bike along with the crankset. I figured the cockpit would be 
> purely preferential. With that said, I have a selection of nitto bars if 
> someone would like to inquire. 
>
> I'd say the condition is great as in there are no dents, large scratches, 
> etc but the decals are a bit scratched up from locking etc. The only other 
> thing that I didn't know about when I bought it was that the front-left 
> fender eyelet may be stripped. I'll investigate more closely soon but just 
> wanted to mention it.
>
> *Details*
> Tange Levin headset
> Shimano BB (I don't remember the exact width but I believe it is the one 
> that came stock)
> Nitto 83 seat post
> 36h Dura-Ace 7600 track hubs (fixed/fixed)
> White Industries 19t freewheel
> 36h Velocity Atlas rims (non-machined)
> 700x38 Panaracer Gravelking EXTs (if you would like them).
>
> $1300, but if that doesn't sound reasonable I'm more than happy to chat 
> about it.
>
> Here are some photos of the different iterations in which it has been set 
> up 
> .
>
> I'll add some more detail photos to the same link shortly.
>
>
>
>
>

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[RBW] Re: FS(Bay Area): 58? Quickbeam

[diekaiser]

Thanks Matt. I agree, I rather like the more "aggressive unracers" of old. 

On a side note, and maybe a bit random, if anyone has any Canon FD related 
hardware (mainly lenses) I would be interested in a potential trade! Let's 
say something more exotic than a 50mm 1.4. I realized there may be some 
overlap in interests here.

On Tuesday, March 1, 2022 at 5:18:48 AM UTC-8 Matt Beecher wrote:

> That's nice, and a fair price in current times.  If I did not already have 
> one, I would be sorely tempted.  These are nice bikes, from an age when Riv 
> produced bikes with more aggressive in geometry, yet still "unracer".  
>
> GLWS!
>
> Matt in Oswego, IL
>
> On Monday, February 28, 2022 at 7:35:38 PM UTC-6 diekaiser wrote:
>
>> Added more photos to the gallery above. After cleaning it up, there's 
>> more nicks and scratches than I remember. Let's say $1200 unless the 
>> original price wasn't a good starting point to begin with.
>>
>> On Monday, February 28, 2022 at 4:20:48 PM UTC-8 diekaiser wrote:
>>
>>> Hey all. With regret, I'm selling my Quickbeam. Unfortunately living in 
>>> a studio doesn't accommodate owning 4+ bikes and the Quickbeam didn't make 
>>> the cut. I'm heading up to SF on March 5th for a birthday roadtrip to 
>>> Oregon and will be there for the weekend if you would like to check it out.
>>>
>>>  I was having a hard time figuring out which size model it is from the 
>>> Riv catalogs but it has a 57cm top tube and a 56cm seat tube (I measured 
>>> center to center) which I believe puts it at the 58cm model. 
>>>
>>> Sale includes Frame, fork, headset, bottom bracket, seat post, and wheel 
>>> set. Unfortunately, I don't have a spare set of brakes as they are moving 
>>> to a different bike along with the crankset. I figured the cockpit would be 
>>> purely preferential. With that said, I have a selection of nitto bars if 
>>> someone would like to inquire. 
>>>
>>> I'd say the condition is great as in there are no dents, large 
>>> scratches, etc but the decals are a bit scratched up from locking etc. The 
>>> only other thing that I didn't know about when I bought it was that the 
>>> front-left fender eyelet may be stripped. I'll investigate more closely 
>>> soon but just wanted to mention it.
>>>
>>> *Details*
>>> Tange Levin headset
>>> Shimano BB (I don't remember the exact width but I believe it is the one 
>>> that came stock)
>>> Nitto 83 seat post
>>> 36h Dura-Ace 7600 track hubs (fixed/fixed)
>>> White Industries 19t freewheel
>>> 36h Velocity Atlas rims (non-machined)
>>> 700x38 Panaracer Gravelking EXTs (if you would like them).
>>>
>>> $1300, but if that doesn't sound reasonable I'm more than happy to chat 
>>> about it.
>>>
>>> Here are some photos of the different iterations in which it has been 
>>> set up 
>>> 
>>> .
>>>
>>> I'll add some more detail photos to the same link shortly.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>

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Re: [RBW] Indexing Rapid Rise Questions

[Pam Bikes]

Just don't index.  I'm using the RR and the bar end shifters - both on 
friction.  Never needs adjusting.  You adjust it each time you shift  - 
just like an old radio dial.  My RR is one of my only original parts on my 
bike 63,000 miles in.

On Monday, February 28, 2022 at 12:36:55 PM UTC-5 Drw wrote:

> Thanks all, 
> Yes, the shifters do friction and that's how it's being used now. Seems to 
> hold the gears fine in friction. 
> Follow up question. Is ALL shimano 9 speed the same? Road/MTN? Thinking I 
> may just pick up a 9 speed altus if the tinkering doesnt pan out. 
>
> On Monday, February 28, 2022 at 5:37:42 AM UTC-8 James Valiensi wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>> As a matter of fact, derailleur cables do not stretch. The forces 
>> involved in shifting are many orders of magnitude lower than the yield 
>> stress required to stretch the cable. What actually happens is that inside 
>> liner of the cable housing wears and causes the cable to become looser. 
>> Generally, a half turn out of the cable tension adjuster will compensate 
>> for this.
>>
>> On Feb 27, 2022, at 7:59 PM, Joe Bernard  wrote:
>>
>> On a new bike yes, the cable has probably stretched. If you're not 
>> familiar with fiddling with indexing I'll try a short explainer. 
>>
>> If you have the older style Deore there will be a cable adjuster on the 
>> derailer where the housing ends. Put your bike in the middle cog (5th gear 
>> on a 9-speed). Is the pulley directly under that cog? You can turn the 
>> adjuster counterclockwise to move it leftward, towards the bigger cogs; 
>> clockwise to move right, closer to the smaller cogs. Shift up and down the 
>> cassette, you'll probably need to do this a few times until the indexing is 
>> correct.
>>
>> If it's a newer Deore without the adjuster on the derailer you can use 
>> the one at the shifter. Which I find super annoying so I don't buy those 
>> kind so I don't know which way to turn it, but you'll figure it out after a 
>> few turns this way and that. Good luck! 
>>
>> On Sunday, February 27, 2022 at 6:59:34 PM UTC-8 rmro...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> I cannot answer your question but I am having a similar problem on my 
>>> Clem with a Deore rear mech. I suspect cable stretch on this new bike?
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>> On Feb 27, 2022, at 7:10 PM, Drw  wrote:
>>>
>>> Ok, so I had a rapid rise derailler around and all this talk from 
>>> rivendell got me to put it on my partner's bike that i'm building up. I 
>>> can't for the life of me get it to index correctly. Not saying the 
>>> derailler is the problem, but i've never had this issue with regular pull 
>>> deraillers, so im wondering if i'm missing something.
>>>
>>>
>>> *Components:*
>>> Rivendell Platypus 
>>> Microshift 9 speed thumb shifter for shimano (new)
>>> 9 speed shimano cassette (not new but good shape)
>>> Deore LX rapid rise derailer (not new but good shape)
>>>
>>>
>>> *Specific symptoms:*
>>> -Can tune it to get the highs and lows, but the middle 2-3 gears get it 
>>> jumping all over and not engaging with the cassette. 
>>>
>>> Any thoughts would be appreciated,
>>> Drew. LA
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[RBW] Re: FS(Bay Area): 58? Quickbeam

[Matt Beecher]

That's nice, and a fair price in current times.  If I did not already have 
one, I would be sorely tempted.  These are nice bikes, from an age when Riv 
produced bikes with more aggressive in geometry, yet still "unracer".  

GLWS!

Matt in Oswego, IL

On Monday, February 28, 2022 at 7:35:38 PM UTC-6 diekaiser wrote:

> Added more photos to the gallery above. After cleaning it up, there's more 
> nicks and scratches than I remember. Let's say $1200 unless the original 
> price wasn't a good starting point to begin with.
>
> On Monday, February 28, 2022 at 4:20:48 PM UTC-8 diekaiser wrote:
>
>> Hey all. With regret, I'm selling my Quickbeam. Unfortunately living in a 
>> studio doesn't accommodate owning 4+ bikes and the Quickbeam didn't make 
>> the cut. I'm heading up to SF on March 5th for a birthday roadtrip to 
>> Oregon and will be there for the weekend if you would like to check it out.
>>
>>  I was having a hard time figuring out which size model it is from the 
>> Riv catalogs but it has a 57cm top tube and a 56cm seat tube (I measured 
>> center to center) which I believe puts it at the 58cm model. 
>>
>> Sale includes Frame, fork, headset, bottom bracket, seat post, and wheel 
>> set. Unfortunately, I don't have a spare set of brakes as they are moving 
>> to a different bike along with the crankset. I figured the cockpit would be 
>> purely preferential. With that said, I have a selection of nitto bars if 
>> someone would like to inquire. 
>>
>> I'd say the condition is great as in there are no dents, large scratches, 
>> etc but the decals are a bit scratched up from locking etc. The only other 
>> thing that I didn't know about when I bought it was that the front-left 
>> fender eyelet may be stripped. I'll investigate more closely soon but just 
>> wanted to mention it.
>>
>> *Details*
>> Tange Levin headset
>> Shimano BB (I don't remember the exact width but I believe it is the one 
>> that came stock)
>> Nitto 83 seat post
>> 36h Dura-Ace 7600 track hubs (fixed/fixed)
>> White Industries 19t freewheel
>> 36h Velocity Atlas rims (non-machined)
>> 700x38 Panaracer Gravelking EXTs (if you would like them).
>>
>> $1300, but if that doesn't sound reasonable I'm more than happy to chat 
>> about it.
>>
>> Here are some photos of the different iterations in which it has been set 
>> up 
>> .
>>
>> I'll add some more detail photos to the same link shortly.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>

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