[RBW] Re: Front Rack for Rambouillet
I keep remembering this post and I hate to admit how much it probably applies to me. It feels so much more alive whenever I ride the bike without the front rack. I really want this to be my "utility" bike. For instance, I went and picked up some sushi tonight, and I needed a flat area to keep the food upright and stable. Something on the front just seems so much more convenient for me. I usually leave my bag on all the time and it's always getting used. Perhaps I just need some kind of larger rear bag for my everyday stuff; tools, lock, emergency road snacks, light jackets, etc. Then I keep an empty front rack and only bungee stuff to it when the rear is not an option? It's that or get a different bike that likes a front load more. Cheers! Ben On Thursday, January 27, 2022 at 1:31:38 PM UTC-8 Joe Bernard wrote: > Most of us who mucked around with those bikes 15-20 years ago used a > Mark's Rack. It worked well enough but honestly I can't recommend it, > P-clamps are a pain in the patooty and Rivs are rear-loader designs. My > preference - I know you didn't ask, just putting it out there to ponder on > - is an unsupported bar bag of some sort and rack-and-bag in the rear. As > seen here. > > Joe "in this reporter's opinion" Bernard > > On Thursday, January 27, 2022 at 11:45:00 AM UTC-8 bunny...@gmail.com > wrote: > >> Hey all! >> >> I have a Rambouillet which has caliper brakes as I'm sure most of you >> know. >> >> I'd love to put a rando style rack on the front. It only has eyelets for >> fenders, so I know I'll need to use hose/P clamps on the fork and a >> mount at the brake bolt. >> >> Anyway, I'd like to call on the experts here to find out what is the >> favorite rack for this model. Any good front rack talk is appreciated as >> well. >> >> Cheers! >> Ben Adrian >> >> -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/f8925390-44d7-422e-a01d-8bcc61e5fa67n%40googlegroups.com.
[RBW] FS Handlebars Rene Herse Simworks Easton Soma
I'm selling 4 different handlebars, all purchased new and have seen minimal use. Price does not include shipping (I think shipping is around $20 for most places in US). I'm in Seattle if anyone is interested locally. $75 Rene Herse Maes Parallel 25.4 420mm (https://www.renehersecycles.com/shop/components/handlebars/maes-parallel-254-handlebars/) $75 simworks smog cutter 31.8 480mm (http://goldensaddlecyclery.bigcartel.com/product/sim-works-4-gsc-smog-cutter-handlebars) $35 easton ea50 31.8 400mm (https://eastoncycling.com/collections/components/products/ea50-ax-bar?variant=2964213677) $50 soma highway one bars 26.0 460mm (https://www.somafab.com/archives/product/highway-1-bar) I have pics if anyone wants them. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/bda068e4-b7e9-42a9-b434-614a82fe021an%40googlegroups.com.
[RBW] Re: BB spindle length question
I agree with Bill & George. The chart George provided, shows a 107 gives the same front chain line and C/S clearances as a 110 since the JR dimension is the same for the 107 and the 110. The 107 gives a 3mm lower Q.I believe George's chart is for IRD BBs. John Hawrylak Woodstown NJ On Saturday, July 9, 2022 at 5:12:43 PM UTC-4 George Schick wrote: > Agree with Bill. I took a look at my Ram with a two-chainring crank and > that's what it has. But attached is a chart that you might find handy in > making the decision. > > George > > [image: image.jpeg] > > On Saturday, July 9, 2022 at 1:45:30 PM UTC-5 Bill Lindsay wrote: > >> I would expect a 107 would be the best choice. I'm pretty sure I had a >> 107 on both of my recently parted out Silver-cranked bikes. My Atlantis >> had a 38/24, and my wife's Yves Gomez had a triple. >> >> I just built up a Quickbeam with a 38/35 on the big and middle ring >> positions and I'm running a 103mm BB. >> >> On Saturday, July 9, 2022 at 10:46:55 AM UTC-7 Forrest wrote: >> >>> If I want to put an RBW Silver double crank (42/28) on a Rambouillet >>> (with an Ultegra front derailer), do I need a 110 spindle bottom bracket? >>> Thanks. >>> >>> -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/56a7e83c-560d-47f2-b91c-5cdcbfbacc40n%40googlegroups.com.
Re: [RBW] Re: Long reach brake options for AHH
The CHG change is especially frustrating to me, because the frame checked so many boxes for me with the canti brakes. But now it's a non-starter. Eric On Sun, Jul 10, 2022 at 6:49 PM iamkeith wrote: > > > On Saturday, July 9, 2022 at 7:16:35 PM UTC-6 Joe Bernard wrote: > >> Johnny, I believe that's how the long-reach-caliper Cheviot became the >> v-brake Platypus. V-brakes just work and I spec'd them on my light duty >> mostly-pavement custom as well. >> >> Joe Bernard >> >> > > But this doesn't explain how the Charlie Gallop went from cantis to > long-reach calipers before it even went into production. Especially when > you consider that the cable routing actually worked quite well with caliper > brakes on the Cheviott, but is kind of awkward for cantis on the Platypus. > (Or any mixte, really.) > > My own total guess is that part of the reason that Riv still builds bikes > around these brakes is out of a a sense of "obligation." As Eric noted, > both the Tektros and the Paul's came into existence explicitly at the > behest of Rivendell. So it is appropriate that they continue the market if > we/they want such options to continue to exist. > > I have the Tektros on a RB-1 650b conversion and must say I don't hate > them. But it's a fair-weather, occasional bike, so maybe I haven't tested > them like some have. If you really like everything else about the A Homer > Hilsen and can imagine it being a lifetime bike, I think a canti conversion > is a great way to go. Get it over and done and don't look back. (Do check > vertical clearance at the seatstay bridge while you're at it though. If > you don't also raise it and it subsequently becomes the thing that prevents > you from fitting fenders over your desired tire, you'll kick yourself.) > > It's interesting to remember that originally, when it was called the > Saluki, the AHH had the option of either brake type. It was then described > as a cross between a mountain bike and a road bike, so I guess that > accommodated everyone, depending on which direction they leaned. > > > On Saturday, July 9, 2022 at 5:52:03 PM UTC-7 Johnny Alien wrote: >> >>> I didn't realize those brakes would not work. They were marked as long >>> reach. I can't remember what I used them on before but it must have been >>> something for mid-reach brakes. >>> >>> IMO I am just baffled they keep making bikes for those brakes when there >>> are no great options with great stopping power. Especially when there are >>> so many nice V, mini-V and canti brakes out there. >>> >>> On Saturday, July 9, 2022 at 8:28:16 PM UTC-4 Eric Daume wrote: >>> Yes, the AHH in question uses long reach calipers, not mid reach like the VO. My experience with long reach calipers has been universally bad (Tektro, DC centerpulls). They're adequate in the dry, but with wet rims, there is no stopping power at all. I like a lot about the AHH, but I wouldn't get it due to the brakes. Eric Plain City, OH where I'm not really satisfied with the mid reach Tektros on my current Trek,either On Sat, Jul 9, 2022 at 8:21 PM wrote: > The issue with the VO is they are only midreach (47-57). Many Riv > bikes require longer reach. > > Best, > > Aaron in El Paso > > On Jul 9, 2022, at 17:55, Forrest wrote: > > Johnny, I had those brakes on a bike once. Very good stopping power; > they seemed a little stouter than other sidepulls. > > On Saturday, July 9, 2022 at 6:43:41 PM UTC-5 Johnny Alien wrote: > >> Forgot the link. >> >> >> https://velo-orange.com/collections/brakes/products/grand-cru-long-reach-brakes >> >> On Saturday, July 9, 2022 at 7:43:25 PM UTC-4 Johnny Alien wrote: >> >>> If I had a bike that needed long sidepulls these are the ones I >>> would have. I have used them before and I don't think there is a long >>> reach >>> that is as strong. >>> >>> On Saturday, July 9, 2022 at 6:58:27 PM UTC-4 Ted Durant wrote: >>> On Saturday, July 9, 2022 at 8:37:19 AM UTC-5 Pierre wrote: > Not super happy with the original Silver calipers raw stopping > power (admittedly quite spoiled by excellent hydro discs on other > bikes). > I had mixed results with Silver/Tektro long-reach dual-pivot brakes. On my Bleriot, with some dual-compound pads, they were brilliant. On other bikes I had less brilliant experiences. I suspect it had something to do with the levers I was using, but I never did a full, controlled experiment. The levers on my Bleriot were older Aero Gran Compe. I also can suggest that low-compression cable housing made a difference for me. That said, the Yokozuna hybrid disc brakes on my newest bike (which replaced the Bleriot) are a very different fee
Re: [RBW] Re: Long reach brake options for AHH
On Saturday, July 9, 2022 at 7:16:35 PM UTC-6 Joe Bernard wrote: > Johnny, I believe that's how the long-reach-caliper Cheviot became the > v-brake Platypus. V-brakes just work and I spec'd them on my light duty > mostly-pavement custom as well. > > Joe Bernard > > But this doesn't explain how the Charlie Gallop went from cantis to long-reach calipers before it even went into production. Especially when you consider that the cable routing actually worked quite well with caliper brakes on the Cheviott, but is kind of awkward for cantis on the Platypus. (Or any mixte, really.) My own total guess is that part of the reason that Riv still builds bikes around these brakes is out of a a sense of "obligation." As Eric noted, both the Tektros and the Paul's came into existence explicitly at the behest of Rivendell. So it is appropriate that they continue the market if we/they want such options to continue to exist. I have the Tektros on a RB-1 650b conversion and must say I don't hate them. But it's a fair-weather, occasional bike, so maybe I haven't tested them like some have. If you really like everything else about the A Homer Hilsen and can imagine it being a lifetime bike, I think a canti conversion is a great way to go. Get it over and done and don't look back. (Do check vertical clearance at the seatstay bridge while you're at it though. If you don't also raise it and it subsequently becomes the thing that prevents you from fitting fenders over your desired tire, you'll kick yourself.) It's interesting to remember that originally, when it was called the Saluki, the AHH had the option of either brake type. It was then described as a cross between a mountain bike and a road bike, so I guess that accommodated everyone, depending on which direction they leaned. On Saturday, July 9, 2022 at 5:52:03 PM UTC-7 Johnny Alien wrote: > >> I didn't realize those brakes would not work. They were marked as long >> reach. I can't remember what I used them on before but it must have been >> something for mid-reach brakes. >> >> IMO I am just baffled they keep making bikes for those brakes when there >> are no great options with great stopping power. Especially when there are >> so many nice V, mini-V and canti brakes out there. >> >> On Saturday, July 9, 2022 at 8:28:16 PM UTC-4 Eric Daume wrote: >> >>> Yes, the AHH in question uses long reach calipers, not mid reach like >>> the VO. >>> >>> My experience with long reach calipers has been universally bad (Tektro, >>> DC centerpulls). They're adequate in the dry, but with wet rims, there is >>> no stopping power at all. >>> >>> I like a lot about the AHH, but I wouldn't get it due to the brakes. >>> >>> Eric >>> Plain City, OH >>> where I'm not really satisfied with the mid reach Tektros on my current >>> Trek,either >>> >>> On Sat, Jul 9, 2022 at 8:21 PM wrote: >>> The issue with the VO is they are only midreach (47-57). Many Riv bikes require longer reach. Best, Aaron in El Paso On Jul 9, 2022, at 17:55, Forrest wrote: Johnny, I had those brakes on a bike once. Very good stopping power; they seemed a little stouter than other sidepulls. On Saturday, July 9, 2022 at 6:43:41 PM UTC-5 Johnny Alien wrote: > Forgot the link. > > > https://velo-orange.com/collections/brakes/products/grand-cru-long-reach-brakes > > On Saturday, July 9, 2022 at 7:43:25 PM UTC-4 Johnny Alien wrote: > >> If I had a bike that needed long sidepulls these are the ones I would >> have. I have used them before and I don't think there is a long reach >> that >> is as strong. >> >> On Saturday, July 9, 2022 at 6:58:27 PM UTC-4 Ted Durant wrote: >> >>> On Saturday, July 9, 2022 at 8:37:19 AM UTC-5 Pierre wrote: >>> Not super happy with the original Silver calipers raw stopping power (admittedly quite spoiled by excellent hydro discs on other bikes). >>> >>> I had mixed results with Silver/Tektro long-reach dual-pivot brakes. >>> On my Bleriot, with some dual-compound pads, they were brilliant. On >>> other >>> bikes I had less brilliant experiences. I suspect it had something to >>> do >>> with the levers I was using, but I never did a full, controlled >>> experiment. >>> The levers on my Bleriot were older Aero Gran Compe. I also can suggest >>> that low-compression cable housing made a difference for me. >>> >>> That said, the Yokozuna hybrid disc brakes on my newest bike (which >>> replaced the Bleriot) are a very different feel. I can't definitely say >>> they have more ultimate power, but it takes a lot less hand power to >>> get to >>> max. >>> >>> I have the Dia Compe 610-N calipers (not on braze-ons) on a bike and >>> they proved to be excellent stoppers when I was riding pretty fa
[RBW] FS 61 cm Atlantis, metallic brown, Waterford built, loaded, $2950 plus packing and shipping
frame:61 cm, Waterford built, painted a metallic brown headset:FSA stem: Nitto Technomic bars: Simworks Co-Misirlou Bar, 45cm, Oury grips and Newbaum’s brown tape shifters: Ene Wing Shifter, Diacompe brake levers: Diacompe Gran Compe brakes: Diacompe cantilvers crankset: Silver triple front derailer: Shimano Claris rear derailer:Shimano Deore XT rims: Velocity Dyad, 36 spokes tires: Teravail Rampart, 700 x 42c rear hub: Shimano hub front hub: Schmidt Son 28 saddle: Brooks B17 Special seatpost Nitto S83 pedals: MKS Sylvan kickstand included front rack: Nitto mini-front rack, 32F front light: Schmidt Edelux II – Ano rear rack: Nitto Big Back Rack, 33R rear light: Busch & Muller fenders: SKS link to photos: https://photos.app.goo.gl/GhkT1e7ucvHvs2aV9 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/158f85f0-2601-4ab3-acdc-db6856fd635an%40googlegroups.com.
[RBW] FS 61 cm Atlantis, metallic brown, Waterford built
frame:61 cm, Waterford built, painted a metallic brown headset:FSA stem: Nitto Technomic bars: Simworks Co-Misirlou Bar, 45cm, Oury grips and Newbaum’s brown tape shifters: Ene Wing Shifter, Diacompe brake levers: Diacompe Gran Compe brakes: Diacompe cantilvers crankset: Silver triple front derailer: Shimano Claris rear derailer:Shimano Deore XT rims: Velocity Dyad, 36 spokes tires: Teravail Rampart, 700 x 42c rear hub: Shimano hub front hub: Schmidt Son 28 saddle: Brooks B17 Special seatpost Nitto S83 pedals: MKS Sylvan kickstand included front rack: Nitto mini-front rack, 32F front light: Schmidt Edelux II – Ano rear rack: Nitto Big Back Rack, 33R rear light: Busch & Muller fenders: SKS Link to the photos: https://photos.app.goo.gl/GhkT1e7ucvHvs2aV9 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/210a9024-f839-4581-a204-89096f3ebc90n%40googlegroups.com.
Re: [RBW] Hillibikes are so close!
Just curious, has anyone run down to a 48 or so mm tire on their Gus or Susie? Bike insights shows the BB still a tiny bit higher than a Sam with that size tire. Just not sure I can trust the site for these geo’s. I ask because as a one bike guy, I’d love to use fenders for winter. I was thinking a second wheelset would be nice. Otherwise I guess I should look at a winter bike.. On Friday, July 8, 2022 at 6:39:50 AM UTC-7 Ryan Frahm wrote: > Thank you! I actually had the green in my cart and my daughter distracted > me for a minute, green were gone in 4 minutes or so. Really loving this > color though now that I have seen it in person! Right now it just has the > clear protection that Riv puts on it. I do have some slightly thicker heli > tape I could use if this doesn’t hold up. I also have the Campandgoslow > snake bar tape I plan to use once I have decided to wrap the front position > on the bars. I want to try a Billie bar though I think first once they come > back in stock. I think the bar tape colors will look nice with the frame > color! > > On Thursday, July 7, 2022 at 11:05:16 PM UTC-7 mercia...@gmail.com wrote: > >> That color looks so great, it makes you wonder why all bikes aren't >> orange. Cool chainstay decals, may I suggest some helicopter tape to cover >> those and to protect from the dreaded chain slap! >> >> On Thu, Jul 7, 2022 at 5:13 AM Ryan Frahm wrote: >> >>> Thank you! And congrats on the Gus! I plan to wrap my drive side soon. >>> Fortunately the clear protection is keeping it safe so far. The non drive >>> side has the graphics too on this one at least! >>> >>> On Wednesday, July 6, 2022 at 11:27:33 PM UTC-7 brok...@gmail.com wrote: >>> This color is incredible! Nice build. I just received a NOS Gus from the previous batch (mine is Riv blue), and I'm kinda curious as to why the little instrument graphics were moved to the chainstays - particularly the driveside stays - since folks routinely wrap the stay to protect the paint from chain slap. If I had one of these newer models, I would be bummed to have to cover up those cool little graphics. On Saturday, June 25, 2022 at 1:11:54 PM UTC-4 fra...@gmail.com wrote: > [image: 1DE74431-611C-4C5D-9711-56E530A91BA0.jpeg] > > > Still have some fine tuning to do but it rides great! Could have > probably gone for the longest stem. Older XT derailer I had planned on > for > the front was a no go. Hooked up my daughter’s trailer and did a > neighborhood lap with it empty, so far so good. The bike feels like it > has > suspension over small bumps. Really looking forward to a real ride, > hopefully in the morning! > On Friday, June 24, 2022 at 11:21:20 AM UTC-7 Joe Bernard wrote: > >> I use the "e-bike" Kool Stops on my Motolites which work fabulously, >> but they're thick and make pulling the front wheel on my roadish fork >> (Riv >> custom) a pain. I may try the short gray cheapies on the front, I'm >> tired >> of wrestling with these. >> >> On Friday, June 24, 2022 at 5:07:10 AM UTC-7 Paul Clifton wrote: >> >>> Good to know the Salmon pads squeal for lots of people. This isn't >>> my first fight with salmon pads on motolites, but it's the first time I >>> asked about it. I'll just swap out the pads like usual, and there will >>> prob >>> be a free for shipping salmon pads post here once I get everything >>> sorted >>> out. I have at least 2 sets to get rid of now. >>> >>> Wally, the dual compound mountain pads are my go to. I haven't had >>> any problems with them squealing before. There must be something about >>> the >>> shape of the thinlines that leads to the squeal. >>> >>> Paul >>> >>> On Friday, June 24, 2022 at 6:59:35 AM UTC-5 wallye...@gmail.com >>> wrote: >>> I'm running Paul Motolites and the Kool Stop mountain pads, in salmon, for my Gus. No issues for fit or squealing. On Friday, June 24, 2022 at 6:30:18 AM UTC-4 brendonoid wrote: > I have found that the thin line salmons, when working, are great > pads but by far the fussiest to setup. Getting them to be quiet can > require > such ludicrous amounts of toe-in that the pad wont last more than > 1000 > miles. One trick that has worked previously worked is cleaning the > pads > themselves with isopropyl and then with hot detergent water. Not one > or the > other. Both, in that order. > I am trying the grey cheapy pads that riv started selling with > Neo-retros on my Susie and the setup was painless, and the braking is > far > improved to my previous experience with Neo-retros. > Sometimes everything just works, sometimes It doesn't, and if I >>>
[RBW] Re: Long reach brake options for AHH
I have the Tektro R556/R559 (the only difference between the two is that the R559 has a lock on the quick release lever) on three bikes, and the braking is fine on all of them. On one bike I have Shimano R400 brake levers, another one has SRAM Force double-tap integrated shift/brake levers, and the third has TRP RRL levers. On all three I swapped out the provided pads for Koolstop salmon city pads: http://www.koolstop.com/english/city%20threaded.html. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/20d7eb48-93bd-4354-9717-4138f3cfb640n%40googlegroups.com.
[RBW] Re: FS Quickbeam 60cm Frame fork headset and BB
Headed to the mountains, just like your (former) Bombadil, which I now proudly call my own. I hope the new owner likes the Quickbeam even half as much as I admire that Bombadil. If these are the two that you got rid of, I can't wait to see the ones that you actually kept! Willet M. On Sunday, July 10, 2022 at 10:51:43 AM UTC-6 jamison brosseau wrote: > this bike is sold and moving to Colorado > > On Saturday, July 9, 2022 at 1:38:05 PM UTC-4 jamison brosseau wrote: > >> I have a great condition 60cm Green Quickbeam FS. Price is $975 shipped >> CONUSA . The Frame will come with sakae double crankset, bottom bracket >> (shimano?). headset campagnolo, nitto technomic stem, and no name post, >> Soma (?) swept back bars, tektro levers, and I what I believe to be the >> original Suzue wheelset. Saddle not included. >> [image: IMG_7190.jpg] >> > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/608f5e19-29b2-4d98-b2ea-6576e1169b87n%40googlegroups.com.
[RBW] Re: FS Quickbeam 60cm Frame fork headset and BB
this bike is sold and moving to Colorado On Saturday, July 9, 2022 at 1:38:05 PM UTC-4 jamison brosseau wrote: > I have a great condition 60cm Green Quickbeam FS. Price is $975 shipped > CONUSA . The Frame will come with sakae double crankset, bottom bracket > (shimano?). headset campagnolo, nitto technomic stem, and no name post, > Soma (?) swept back bars, tektro levers, and I what I believe to be the > original Suzue wheelset. Saddle not included. > [image: IMG_7190.jpg] > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/87dafea2-73cb-4265-a913-adf727974bfcn%40googlegroups.com.
Re: [RBW] Re: Long reach brake options for AHH
Appearance was a large consideration when I selected the Rene Herse braze-on centerpull brakes for my Rivendell Custom that was intended as a road bike. I call it a fat man's racing bike. "Racing Bike" as in no braze-ons for racks, no fender eyelets, no holes in the "brake" or chain stay bridges, - clean stays and forks but a really long wheelbase. The long chainstays are balanced by the really long main triangle (62 cm ETT x 53.4 ST). What I did not realize was how large the Rene Herse brakes are, they dwarf my Mafac Competition , DiaCompe, and Weinmann centerpulls. But they still have that fifties - sixties racing bike look. The centerpull braze-ons are located between the rim and the fork crown/brake bridge, so they are a stiffer mount that cantilevers/V-brakes whose braze-ons are located below the rim. Another plus for the RH centerpulls is no black or plastic parts like the long reach Tektros. I have never actually seen another bike with braze-on centerpulls except in pictures - some in the book *Japanese Steel*. I have considered at times having Dia-Compe braze-ons installed on my Paramount for the original Weinmann centerpull brakes. Laing On Sunday, July 10, 2022 at 7:50:05 AM UTC-4 Daniel MacPherson wrote: > I agree with the sentiment that road bikes look better with calipers on > them. Though I find the long-reach caliper brakes (Tektro R559) to be > rather ugly looking. Road bikes with disc brakes or v-brakes still look odd > to me. I assume they must be gravel or cyclocross bikes. Maybe Rivendell > should develop some kick-ass long reach caliper brakes. > > > Daniel M > > Tallahassee Fl > > On Saturday, July 9, 2022 at 10:31:46 PM UTC-4 Joe Bernard wrote: > >> Part of the Riv association with long-reach calipers (my opinion) is >> Grant had them made back in the days when road bikes were closely >> associated with calipers and he wanted more room for big tires. We don't >> think anything of it now but at the time if your bike had canti posts it >> was a tourer or mtb, you couldn't sell it to folks looking for a road >> frame. >> >> >>> >>> -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/470a503e-36ef-4f69-8514-db1fe0a59ca8n%40googlegroups.com.
[RBW] Re: FS Quickbeam 60cm Frame fork headset and BB
Is it 60cm c-c or c-t? On Saturday, July 9, 2022 at 12:38:05 PM UTC-5 jamison brosseau wrote: > I have a great condition 60cm Green Quickbeam FS. Price is $975 shipped > CONUSA . The Frame will come with sakae double crankset, bottom bracket > (shimano?). headset campagnolo, nitto technomic stem, and no name post, > Soma (?) swept back bars, tektro levers, and I what I believe to be the > original Suzue wheelset. Saddle not included. > [image: IMG_7190.jpg] > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/00c54a25-446b-4ff2-b53a-2cbd8aca66f0n%40googlegroups.com.
Re: [RBW] Long reach brake options for AHH
Rivendell did have a hand in developing the R559 (though I think just from a specification standpoint, not the actual design) Eric On Sunday, July 10, 2022, Daniel MacPherson wrote: > I agree with the sentiment that road bikes look better with calipers on > them. Though I find the long-reach caliper brakes (Tektro R559) to be > rather ugly looking. Road bikes with disc brakes or v-brakes still look odd > to me. I assume they must be gravel or cyclocross bikes. Maybe Rivendell > should develop some kick-ass long reach caliper brakes. > > > Daniel M > > Tallahassee Fl > > On Saturday, July 9, 2022 at 10:31:46 PM UTC-4 Joe Bernard wrote: > >> Part of the Riv association with long-reach calipers (my opinion) is >> Grant had them made back in the days when road bikes were closely >> associated with calipers and he wanted more room for big tires. We don't >> think anything of it now but at the time if your bike had canti posts it >> was a tourer or mtb, you couldn't sell it to folks looking for a road >> frame. >> >> On Saturday, July 9, 2022 at 6:24:33 PM UTC-7 A. D. M. wrote: >> >>> I assume the folks at Rivendell find them adequate. I’ve used the 559s >>> (with kook stop pads) on a fixed gear with a front brake only in the >>> mountains and found it worked fine. I’ve actually done this on multiple >>> 650b fixed conversions. I’ve even used DC750s in this setup. >>> >>> I’ve also used the Mafac Raids and thought they were fine (but finicky >>> to set up sans squealing). >>> >>> I like v brakes the most for ease of setup and stopping power but many >>> people find them “grabby.” I have yet to find a brake I find inadequate >>> (with kool stop pads). >>> >>> I think brake performance expectations vary quite a bit. >>> >>> Best, >>> >>> Aaron in El Paso >>> >>> On Jul 9, 2022, at 18:52, Johnny Alien wrote: >>> >>> >>> I didn't realize those brakes would not work. They were marked as long >>> reach. I can't remember what I used them on before but it must have been >>> something for mid-reach brakes. >>> >>> IMO I am just baffled they keep making bikes for those brakes when there >>> are no great options with great stopping power. Especially when there are >>> so many nice V, mini-V and canti brakes out there. >>> >>> On Saturday, July 9, 2022 at 8:28:16 PM UTC-4 Eric Daume wrote: >>> Yes, the AHH in question uses long reach calipers, not mid reach like the VO. My experience with long reach calipers has been universally bad (Tektro, DC centerpulls). They're adequate in the dry, but with wet rims, there is no stopping power at all. I like a lot about the AHH, but I wouldn't get it due to the brakes. Eric Plain City, OH where I'm not really satisfied with the mid reach Tektros on my current Trek,either On Sat, Jul 9, 2022 at 8:21 PM wrote: > The issue with the VO is they are only midreach (47-57). Many Riv > bikes require longer reach. > > Best, > > Aaron in El Paso > > On Jul 9, 2022, at 17:55, Forrest wrote: > > Johnny, I had those brakes on a bike once. Very good stopping power; > they seemed a little stouter than other sidepulls. > > On Saturday, July 9, 2022 at 6:43:41 PM UTC-5 Johnny Alien wrote: > >> Forgot the link. >> >> https://velo-orange.com/collections/brakes/products/ >> grand-cru-long-reach-brakes >> >> On Saturday, July 9, 2022 at 7:43:25 PM UTC-4 Johnny Alien wrote: >> >>> If I had a bike that needed long sidepulls these are the ones I >>> would have. I have used them before and I don't think there is a long >>> reach >>> that is as strong. >>> >>> On Saturday, July 9, 2022 at 6:58:27 PM UTC-4 Ted Durant wrote: >>> On Saturday, July 9, 2022 at 8:37:19 AM UTC-5 Pierre wrote: > Not super happy with the original Silver calipers raw stopping > power (admittedly quite spoiled by excellent hydro discs on other > bikes). > I had mixed results with Silver/Tektro long-reach dual-pivot brakes. On my Bleriot, with some dual-compound pads, they were brilliant. On other bikes I had less brilliant experiences. I suspect it had something to do with the levers I was using, but I never did a full, controlled experiment. The levers on my Bleriot were older Aero Gran Compe. I also can suggest that low-compression cable housing made a difference for me. That said, the Yokozuna hybrid disc brakes on my newest bike (which replaced the Bleriot) are a very different feel. I can't definitely say they have more ultimate power, but it takes a lot less hand power to get to max. I have the Dia Compe 610-N calipers (not on braze-ons) on a bike and they proved to be excellent stoppers when I was riding pretty
[RBW] Re: FS: Platypus 60cm mermaid
Please feel free to direct message me with questions or offers. I’m a little uncertain about pricing, so I’m open to reasonable offers and discussion about that. (I understand everyone wants to get the best bargain possible.) About shipping: I’m open to helpful suggestions and/or creative solutions. With the size box required, shipping cost could be pretty hefty. But if you need shipping, let’s discuss. On Saturday, July 9, 2022 at 4:49:24 PM UTC-5 Forrest wrote: > 60 cm Platypus (mermaid color) complete bike for sale (see withheld items > below). I acquired the frame new direct from RBW in 2021. Most of the rest > used parts moved over from an Atlantis. Among the newer (2021) parts are > the nice Paul mini-moto brakes and the Albatross handlebars, brake levers, > and open-face Nitto stem. I would consider selling for $200 less if you > don’t want h-bars, stem, and brake levers, as I might move those to my > wife’s step-through bike. But fine if you want to keep those for the > complete bike price,. (Saddle, pedals, Swift bag, water bottle cages not > included.) > > SON Deluxe dyno hub > Luxos Lumotec headlight > Tail light > Deore XT rear hub > Mavic A719 36-hole rear rim > Velocity Synergy 36-hole front rim. > Soma Shikoro 700x48 tires (setup with inner tubes) > SKS plastic fenders sized to fit over those big tires > Deore rear derailer > IRD front triple derailer > Sugino triple crankset, 48/36/24, 170 arms > 11-32, 9-speed cassette > Nitto seat post (Crystal fellow, I think) > Nitto large rear rack > > $2800 > $2600 without handlebars, brake levers, and stem > > I prefer not to ship. I know this can be a sticking point, especially in > this group with so many on the coasts, etc. I don’t have the box this bike > came in, and boxes big enough to handle the Platypus are a little hard to > come by. Prefer a buyer in Iowa, Minnesota, Illinois, Wisconsin, maybe > Missouri. I am in Iowa City. I would drive part way toward you, 50-60 > miles, to make a hand-off. I don’t want to do that (or at least not very > much of it) for people just to take a look-see and test ride. If you know > what this bike is and know your sizing well and have ridden Riv bikes > before, you have a good idea of whether it will work for you or not. I’ve > bought plenty of Rivs sight unseen (other than photos), and they’ve all > worked out fine. > > I hope this link to photo album works; I’ll know soon enough if not! > Thanks for looking. > https://photos.app.goo.gl/ZY2Va6esBFtyv2nNA > > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/695cf731-16d4-41e0-b6c4-dc0bb85ce3d1n%40googlegroups.com.
Re: [RBW] Re: Long reach brake options for AHH
I agree with the sentiment that road bikes look better with calipers on them. Though I find the long-reach caliper brakes (Tektro R559) to be rather ugly looking. Road bikes with disc brakes or v-brakes still look odd to me. I assume they must be gravel or cyclocross bikes. Maybe Rivendell should develop some kick-ass long reach caliper brakes. Daniel M Tallahassee Fl On Saturday, July 9, 2022 at 10:31:46 PM UTC-4 Joe Bernard wrote: > Part of the Riv association with long-reach calipers (my opinion) is Grant > had them made back in the days when road bikes were closely associated with > calipers and he wanted more room for big tires. We don't think anything of > it now but at the time if your bike had canti posts it was a tourer or mtb, > you couldn't sell it to folks looking for a road frame. > > On Saturday, July 9, 2022 at 6:24:33 PM UTC-7 A. D. M. wrote: > >> I assume the folks at Rivendell find them adequate. I’ve used the 559s >> (with kook stop pads) on a fixed gear with a front brake only in the >> mountains and found it worked fine. I’ve actually done this on multiple >> 650b fixed conversions. I’ve even used DC750s in this setup. >> >> I’ve also used the Mafac Raids and thought they were fine (but finicky to >> set up sans squealing). >> >> I like v brakes the most for ease of setup and stopping power but many >> people find them “grabby.” I have yet to find a brake I find inadequate >> (with kool stop pads). >> >> I think brake performance expectations vary quite a bit. >> >> Best, >> >> Aaron in El Paso >> >> On Jul 9, 2022, at 18:52, Johnny Alien wrote: >> >> >> I didn't realize those brakes would not work. They were marked as long >> reach. I can't remember what I used them on before but it must have been >> something for mid-reach brakes. >> >> IMO I am just baffled they keep making bikes for those brakes when there >> are no great options with great stopping power. Especially when there are >> so many nice V, mini-V and canti brakes out there. >> >> On Saturday, July 9, 2022 at 8:28:16 PM UTC-4 Eric Daume wrote: >> >>> Yes, the AHH in question uses long reach calipers, not mid reach like >>> the VO. >>> >>> My experience with long reach calipers has been universally bad (Tektro, >>> DC centerpulls). They're adequate in the dry, but with wet rims, there is >>> no stopping power at all. >>> >>> I like a lot about the AHH, but I wouldn't get it due to the brakes. >>> >>> Eric >>> Plain City, OH >>> where I'm not really satisfied with the mid reach Tektros on my current >>> Trek,either >>> >>> On Sat, Jul 9, 2022 at 8:21 PM wrote: >>> The issue with the VO is they are only midreach (47-57). Many Riv bikes require longer reach. Best, Aaron in El Paso On Jul 9, 2022, at 17:55, Forrest wrote: Johnny, I had those brakes on a bike once. Very good stopping power; they seemed a little stouter than other sidepulls. On Saturday, July 9, 2022 at 6:43:41 PM UTC-5 Johnny Alien wrote: > Forgot the link. > > > https://velo-orange.com/collections/brakes/products/grand-cru-long-reach-brakes > > On Saturday, July 9, 2022 at 7:43:25 PM UTC-4 Johnny Alien wrote: > >> If I had a bike that needed long sidepulls these are the ones I would >> have. I have used them before and I don't think there is a long reach >> that >> is as strong. >> >> On Saturday, July 9, 2022 at 6:58:27 PM UTC-4 Ted Durant wrote: >> >>> On Saturday, July 9, 2022 at 8:37:19 AM UTC-5 Pierre wrote: >>> Not super happy with the original Silver calipers raw stopping power (admittedly quite spoiled by excellent hydro discs on other bikes). >>> >>> I had mixed results with Silver/Tektro long-reach dual-pivot brakes. >>> On my Bleriot, with some dual-compound pads, they were brilliant. On >>> other >>> bikes I had less brilliant experiences. I suspect it had something to >>> do >>> with the levers I was using, but I never did a full, controlled >>> experiment. >>> The levers on my Bleriot were older Aero Gran Compe. I also can suggest >>> that low-compression cable housing made a difference for me. >>> >>> That said, the Yokozuna hybrid disc brakes on my newest bike (which >>> replaced the Bleriot) are a very different feel. I can't definitely say >>> they have more ultimate power, but it takes a lot less hand power to >>> get to >>> max. >>> >>> I have the Dia Compe 610-N calipers (not on braze-ons) on a bike and >>> they proved to be excellent stoppers when I was riding pretty fast and >>> a >>> car turned left in front of me. Had the back wheel well off the ground >>> and >>> stopped with about a foot to spare. Again, they need a bit more hand >>> power >>> than the disc brakes to get to that point, but not a lo
