Appearance was a large consideration when I selected the Rene 
Herse braze-on centerpull brakes for my Rivendell Custom that was intended 
as a road bike. I call it a fat man's racing bike. "Racing Bike" as in no 
braze-ons for racks, no fender eyelets, no holes in the "brake" or chain 
stay bridges, - clean stays and forks but a really long wheelbase. The long 
chainstays are balanced by the really long main triangle (62 cm ETT x 53.4 
ST). What I did not realize was how large the Rene Herse brakes are, they 
dwarf my Mafac Competition , DiaCompe, and Weinmann centerpulls. But they 
still have that fifties - sixties racing bike look. The centerpull 
braze-ons are located between the rim and the fork crown/brake bridge, so 
they are a stiffer mount that cantilevers/V-brakes whose braze-ons are 
located below the rim. Another plus for the RH centerpulls is no black or 
plastic parts like the long reach Tektros.

I have never actually seen another bike with braze-on centerpulls except in 
pictures - some in the book *Japanese Steel*. I have considered at times 
having Dia-Compe braze-ons installed on my Paramount for the original 
Weinmann centerpull brakes.

Laing

On Sunday, July 10, 2022 at 7:50:05 AM UTC-4 Daniel MacPherson wrote:

> I agree with the sentiment that road bikes look better with calipers on 
> them. Though I find the long-reach caliper brakes (Tektro R559) to be 
> rather ugly looking. Road bikes with disc brakes or v-brakes still look odd 
> to me. I assume they must be gravel or cyclocross bikes. Maybe Rivendell 
> should develop some kick-ass long reach caliper brakes. 
>
>
> Daniel M 
>
> Tallahassee Fl
>
> On Saturday, July 9, 2022 at 10:31:46 PM UTC-4 Joe Bernard wrote:
>
>> Part of the Riv association with long-reach calipers (my opinion) is 
>> Grant had them made back in the days when road bikes were closely 
>> associated with calipers and he wanted more room for big tires. We don't 
>> think anything of it now but at the time if your bike had canti posts it 
>> was a tourer or mtb, you couldn't sell it to folks looking for a road 
>> frame. 
>>
>>
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