Re: [RBW] Re: Going around in circles with shifters.

[Ben Adrian]

Just wanted to check in. I've been using the SIlver 1 shifters as bar ends 
for a while. Overall, things were good, but I did have some ghost shifting 
under torque and something just seemed less than precise. For the record, 
I've been using my Ultegra 6500 RD with a hanger extender to get up to a 32 
on the back. 

I took my bike to my list member Jason's house to use his hanger alignment 
tool. It was a little better, but still had some issues with ghost shifting 
under torque. I noticed that there was a little left-right play in the 
derailleur hanger bolt interface. 

So, I happened to have a 105 R7000 RD (11 speed) kicking around. I put that 
on with no idea if it would work. Surprise, it works really well. Silver 1 
shifter, 11 speed RD, 8 speed cassette, 9 speed chain.
I was still getting occasional ghost shifting, especially on larger cogs. 
Much better, but still not perfect. I felt like there was stil a little 
cable play and imprecision on the rear... Like it sometimes settled into a 
position.

It was raining today, so just for fun I mounted the shifters on the 
downtube again. I'm getting pretty quick at this. The improvement felt 
dramatic to me. I'm using off brand shift housing, and I don't know how 
well the housing is sitting in the shifter pods. I just have a feeling that 
something is amiss in that the pod to housing to cable stop interface.

So, I'll roll with this for a while until if and when I get annoyed by 
something. I'll pull my cable housing from under the tape and try some kind 
of alternate routing if I get restless on the next rainy day.

Now I'mjust having fun.

Cheers!
Ben

On Friday, September 30, 2022 at 3:33:47 PM UTC-7 cycli...@gmail.com wrote:

> With the Shimano's I find I often shift with the lever between my pinkie 
> and ring finger.   Almost effortless and one of those things one does 
> without thinking.
>
>
> On Friday, September 30, 2022 at 3:14:15 PM UTC-7 Joe Bernard wrote:
>
>> I can't comment on the Shimano comparison but I've used Silver1 and 2 as 
>> bar-ends and liked that long blade better. The way you can drop your whole 
>> hand and pull up on the ratcheting direction with your two rear fingers 
>> (pinkie and the other one) can't be beat for friction shifting. 
>>
>> On Friday, September 30, 2022 at 3:07:00 PM UTC-7 cycli...@gmail.com 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Adding to Ben's comments.  I've been running Shimano Dura-Ace 9-speed 
>>> bar ends on my bikes for awhile, in friction mode.  Recently wanted to see 
>>> what, if any, difference Silver2 shifter would be.  So last week I 
>>> purchased one Silver2 lever for the rear to try on one bike.  Yes, had to 
>>> use my Dremel to shave off the little nub on the Shimano pod, which doesn't 
>>> affect the ability to go back to using the Shimano shift lever.  After a 
>>> few days of riding with the Silver2 lever the verdict is in and I've 
>>> switched back to the Shimano lever.  Smoother operation and more 
>>> comfortable ergonomics, in my opinion.
>>> On Friday, September 30, 2022 at 11:40:38 AM UTC-7 Pam Bikes wrote:
>>>
 I love this conversation and have learned alot from it.  I'm not the 
 only one to be bothered w/cable routing, etc.  There is no perfect 
 solution 
 - long cables, impaired shifting, down tube or stem shifters...  I have 
 bar 
 ends (friction) on albatross bars and long cables which sometimes get in 
 the way of closing my front

  bag.  [image: fanny.jpg]

 On Friday, September 23, 2022 at 7:57:10 PM UTC-4 bunny...@gmail.com 
 wrote:

> Since I didn't REALLY want to mangle the pods, I decided to dremed the 
> square centered washer spacers. A few minutes carefullt carving on each 
> and 
> I got the stopper washers to fit over the indexing alignment bump.
>
> Here's hoping for the best on my ride this evening. 
> I really live in a charmed world... Amixing shifting on the downtube 
> where I have to lean dow a couple inches vs quick-access bar end with 
> MAYBE 
> a bit of bonus friction from the housing. 
>
> Cheers!
> Ben
>
> On Wednesday, September 21, 2022 at 10:45:22 AM UTC-7 lconley wrote:
>
>> The half-round function is to locate the indexing function of the 
>> indexing shifters correctly. Not strictly necessary, but it makes it 
>> impossible to install an indexing shifter incorrectly - idiot proofing. 
>> It 
>> is easily removed with a file or Dremel to allow silver or Dia-Compe 
>> friction shifters to be installed.
>>
>> Laing
>>
>> On Wednesday, September 21, 2022 at 1:00:01 PM UTC-4 
>> bunny...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> More shifter nerd talk!
>>>  
>>> Attemped to mount the silver shifter onto the shimano pod this 
>>> morning and ran into a snag. Many of you probably know this, but if 
>>> not, 
>>> here's the deal.
>>>
>>> Here's a photo of the Shimano Pod. Thanks Park Tool!

[RBW] Re: Clem for sale

[Joe Bernard]

I believe this is about the bronzey green 45cm L for sale elsewhere here. 
That's not the current generation which has a longer ETT and 650B wheels, 
it has 26" wheels and should match the grilver one I had at 57cm effective 
toptube. 

On Saturday, October 15, 2022 at 6:25:49 PM UTC-7 Kim Hetzel wrote:

> Hi Richard,
>  
> What specific model of the Clem are your referring to ? The "H" or the "L" 
> model ?
>
> I do not see a picture. Do you know what size the bicycle is ?
>
> I do not specificly know if the geometry is the same between the 2020 
> version to the 2021 version. I do own a green 59 cm 2021 Clem Smith Jr. 
> "L".  I am 5'11". I have a long torso and short limbs. It fits me well.
>
> Kim Hetzel
> Yelm, WA.
> On Saturday, October 15, 2022 at 1:17:03 PM UTC-7 rmro...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Hello. Regarding the Clem, I have two questions. First, being a 2020 
>> model, does this bike share the geometry of the newest Clem’s? Or, is this 
>> the previous version? Second, as pictured what size rider fits this bike? 
>> Thanks, Richard 
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>
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Re: [RBW] Tire shipping advice

['Eric Norris' via RBW Owners Bunch]

Fold them into 1/3 the original size. Kind of like folding a windscreen 
sunshade, if you’ve ever done that.

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> On Oct 15, 2022, at 6:20 PM, Ezri Rose  wrote:
> 
> Eric, when you say folded, is that over in half once? I shipped something out 
> yesterday, and the post office rounded up one dimension from 12.1 inches to 
> 13, and that made the price jump from $24 to 41, so every inch is counting 
> these days!
> 
> On Saturday, October 15, 2022 at 6:54:24 PM UTC-4 campyo...@me.com wrote:
> I e shooed folded beaded tires many times. It doesn’t hurt them. 
> 
> –Eric N
> 
> 
>> On Oct 15, 2022, at 3:50 PM, Garth > > wrote:
>> 
>> Yeah, basically use a box cutter to literally make a custom box no bigger 
>> than the tires. You can use some hot glue for integrity if you're worried, 
>> but good tape should suffice. 
> 
>> 
>> On Saturday, October 15, 2022 at 5:35:07 PM UTC-4 bjmi...@gmail.com 
>>  wrote:
>> You can get creative with how you cut cardboard boxes into different shapes. 
>> If you find one big enough to lay the tires down in, you can use a razor/box 
>> opener to cut down the corners of the box and then trim the flaps to the 
>> size you need. It's really hard to explain and it's something I messed up a 
>> few times before I could do it well (I work in a golf shop that ships oddly 
>> shaped things now and then), but it's do-able. 
>> 
>> Otherwise, you could try to find unwanted TV boxes or cardboard boxes that 
>> people ship art in? 
>> 
>> Good luck,
>> Ben 
>> 
>> On Sat, Oct 15, 2022 at 4:20 PM Ezri Rose > wrote:
>> Does anyone have experience shipping wire bead tyres? I have some 26" 
>> studded Schwalbe Marathon winter tyres I would like to sell. But I have no 
>> idea how to ship them. It's probably not good for them to fold them, right? 
>> Selling them locally isn't an option, as I've moved from Colorado to Florida 
>> 
>> Ezri,
>> Merritt Island, FL
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Re: [RBW] Tire shipping advice

[Ray Varella]

To fold a wire bead tire without damaging the bead is what we used to do 
before folding tires were ubiquitous. 
With the tire horizontal in front of you, reach under the the part closest 
to you (we’ll call that 6:00 o’clock), slide your hand all the way across 
(let’s call that 12:00 o’clock), reach up over the top and as you pull that 
portion of the tire towards you and you get about 2/3rds of the way across, 
flip the other two ears over and you should quickly end up with three 
loops. 
Does that make sense?
I don’t think I have any wire bead tires here to make a video but I’ll 
check. 

It’s a very easy method and because it’s forming something like a figure 8 
with an additional loop, it doesn’t crease or kink the bead. 

Ray
On Saturday, October 15, 2022 at 6:20:37 PM UTC-7 ezre...@gmail.com wrote:

> Eric, when you say folded, is that over in half once? I shipped something 
> out yesterday, and the post office rounded up one dimension from 12.1 
> inches to 13, and that made the price jump from $24 to 41, so every inch is 
> counting these days!
>
> On Saturday, October 15, 2022 at 6:54:24 PM UTC-4 campyo...@me.com wrote:
>
>> I e shooed folded beaded tires many times. It doesn’t hurt them. 
>>
>> –Eric N
>>
>>
>> On Oct 15, 2022, at 3:50 PM, Garth  wrote:
>>
>> Yeah, basically use a box cutter to literally make a custom box no 
>> bigger than the tires. You can use some hot glue for integrity if you're 
>> worried, but good tape should suffice. 
>>
>>
>> On Saturday, October 15, 2022 at 5:35:07 PM UTC-4 bjmi...@gmail.com 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> You can get creative with how you cut cardboard boxes into different 
>>> shapes. If you find one big enough to lay the tires down in, you can use a 
>>> razor/box opener to cut down the corners of the box and then trim the flaps 
>>> to the size you need. It's really hard to explain and it's something I 
>>> messed up a few times before I could do it well (I work in a golf shop that 
>>> ships oddly shaped things now and then), but it's do-able. 
>>>
>>> Otherwise, you could try to find unwanted TV boxes or cardboard boxes 
>>> that people ship art in? 
>>>
>>> Good luck,
>>> Ben 
>>>
>>> On Sat, Oct 15, 2022 at 4:20 PM Ezri Rose  wrote:
>>>
 Does anyone have experience shipping wire bead tyres? I have some 26" 
 studded Schwalbe Marathon winter tyres I would like to sell. But I have no 
 idea how to ship them. It's probably not good for them to fold them, 
 right? 
 Selling them locally isn't an option, as I've moved from Colorado to 
 Florida 
 Ezri,
 Merritt Island, FL

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Re: [RBW] Re: Ride Your Rivendell: White Pine Trail, Grand Rapids, MI

[Joe Bernard]

Looks cold! But pretty and fun!! But cold!!! 

On Saturday, October 15, 2022 at 6:37:35 PM UTC-7 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
wrote:

> We had a fantastic ride today, in peak color and with awesome people. More 
> on that later. But for now: 
>
>
> On Friday, October 14, 2022 at 7:46:18 PM UTC-4 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
> wrote:
>
>> I hope to see a lot of you and your lovely Rivbikes tomorrow. And if 
>> there would just be one RivSister in the bunch I would be so happy. 
>>
>> But, if not, I’ll represent. 
>>
>> Leah
>>
>> On Friday, October 14, 2022 at 7:00:20 PM UTC-4 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I sent you a PM…
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>> On Oct 14, 2022, at 6:27 PM, Conway Bennett  
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Is there a contact list going into tomorrow?  My number is 239.877.4119 
>>> <(239)%20877-4119>, and I intend to depart Chicagoland ~5 AM tomorrow.  
>>> See y'all tomorrow!
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, October 11, 2022 at 2:41:10 PM UTC-5 Bicycle Belle Ding 
>>> Ding! wrote:
>>>
 <>>>

 First, a caveat: This ride is not affiliated with Rivendell Bicycle 
 Works; we are a group of Rivendell owners who want to ride our bikes 
 together. Organizers are not liable for bodily injury or damage to your 
 bike. If you are comfortable riding at your own risk, then:

 Join us on the famous White Pine Trail near Grand Rapids, Michigan for 
 a ride through Michigan’s fall foliage. The date is quickly approaching; 
 here are the details so you can make plans to attend.

 When: October 15th, 10 am
 Where: Dwight Lydell Park in Comstock Park
 What: a 32 mile ride, round trip. Ride to Cedar Springs with lunch in 
 Rockford on our way back.

 If you choose to make a weekend of it, there are many National and 
 state campgrounds within an hour of the park. If weather does not 
 cooperate, this ride is rescheduled for Oct 29th. 

 This is our 2nd Rivendell Ride of 2022; the first was in Kalamazoo, MI 
 on the KalHaven Trail. I hope to see familiar faces and new in Grand 
 Rapids 
 on Saturday. 

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[RBW] Re: Clem for sale

[Kim Hetzel]

Hi Richard,
 
What specific model of the Clem are your referring to ? The "H" or the "L" 
model ?

I do not see a picture. Do you know what size the bicycle is ?

I do not specificly know if the geometry is the same between the 2020 
version to the 2021 version. I do own a green 59 cm 2021 Clem Smith Jr. 
"L".  I am 5'11". I have a long torso and short limbs. It fits me well.

Kim Hetzel
Yelm, WA.
On Saturday, October 15, 2022 at 1:17:03 PM UTC-7 rmro...@gmail.com wrote:

> Hello. Regarding the Clem, I have two questions. First, being a 2020 
> model, does this bike share the geometry of the newest Clem’s? Or, is this 
> the previous version? Second, as pictured what size rider fits this bike?
> Thanks, Richard
>
> Sent from my iPhone

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Re: [RBW] Tire shipping advice

[Ezri Rose]

Eric, when you say folded, is that over in half once? I shipped something 
out yesterday, and the post office rounded up one dimension from 12.1 
inches to 13, and that made the price jump from $24 to 41, so every inch is 
counting these days!

On Saturday, October 15, 2022 at 6:54:24 PM UTC-4 campyo...@me.com wrote:

> I e shooed folded beaded tires many times. It doesn’t hurt them. 
>
> –Eric N
>
>
> On Oct 15, 2022, at 3:50 PM, Garth  wrote:
>
> Yeah, basically use a box cutter to literally make a custom box no bigger 
> than the tires. You can use some hot glue for integrity if you're worried, 
> but good tape should suffice. 
>
>
> On Saturday, October 15, 2022 at 5:35:07 PM UTC-4 bjmi...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> You can get creative with how you cut cardboard boxes into different 
>> shapes. If you find one big enough to lay the tires down in, you can use a 
>> razor/box opener to cut down the corners of the box and then trim the flaps 
>> to the size you need. It's really hard to explain and it's something I 
>> messed up a few times before I could do it well (I work in a golf shop that 
>> ships oddly shaped things now and then), but it's do-able. 
>>
>> Otherwise, you could try to find unwanted TV boxes or cardboard boxes 
>> that people ship art in? 
>>
>> Good luck,
>> Ben 
>>
>> On Sat, Oct 15, 2022 at 4:20 PM Ezri Rose  wrote:
>>
>>> Does anyone have experience shipping wire bead tyres? I have some 26" 
>>> studded Schwalbe Marathon winter tyres I would like to sell. But I have no 
>>> idea how to ship them. It's probably not good for them to fold them, right? 
>>> Selling them locally isn't an option, as I've moved from Colorado to 
>>> Florida 
>>> Ezri,
>>> Merritt Island, FL
>>>
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[RBW] Chris King Open House

[velomann]

I know this kind of bike bling doesn't appeal to everyone on this list, but 
after a 3-year absence, Chris King opened their doors again today for a 
small custom bike show and bike geek hang fest. I always enjoy the heck out 
of this event, and it was even sweeter for us to all gather again in person 
post-pandemic to celebrate bikes and riding.

The event is used by CK to showcase the new colorway - it's kept pretty 
hush-hush, but supplied to the custom builders, who design the bikes to 
showcase the hubs/headsets/bottom brackets. It might be difficult to see in 
the pictures, but the new colorway is a matte finish dark gray/blue. I 
forget what they call it. Depending on the light it looks almost black or 
dark navy. Very subtle and subdued compared to some recent colors. 
Consequently, many of the builders chose raw or anodized titanium, or 
various shades of blue (The Best Bike Color IMHO). 

But the highlight of the show was the students from our local Benson 
Polytechnic High School showing off one of their custom frames and talking 
about the program. They currently have 25 (!) frame jigs, and a full class 
(including several female students). The instructor is a former United 
Bicycle Institute instructor. Each student gets to build (and keep) their 
own frame. Really inspiring!
A few pics in my flickr album here: https://flic.kr/s/aHBqjAbmPb

Mike M

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Re: [RBW] Re: Nitto Basket Rack: is it too heavy?

['upyou...@yahoo.com' via RBW Owners Bunch]

3 Triangles on back for sure!
Kate

On Friday, October 14, 2022 at 9:33:23 PM UTC-4 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
wrote:

> Because more is MORE! 藍 Totally doing it.
>
> On Oct 14, 2022, at 9:31 PM, JAS  wrote:
>
> Leah, what a nice change!  Your bike is perfect.  I'm with Jason...3 
> triangles on the back, just like he described.
>
>
> Joyce
>
> On Friday, October 14, 2022 at 6:23:30 PM UTC-7 Jason Fuller wrote:
>
>> Yeah looks great!  The rear basket would look silly on the racing 
>> platypus, but it just fits in with what this bike is for.  
>>
>> Hear me out on the triangle:  one orange triangle on the back of each 
>> pannier, and the green one up on the basket for three (!) rear triangles 
>> and nice symmetry. The Rons bag is already a giant safety triangle for the 
>> front, effectively
>>
>> On Friday, 14 October 2022 at 18:14:18 UTC-7 jmlmu...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> Looks good Leah! You’ve inspired me to try a switcheroo on my Rosco (of 
>>> which I still need to post photos of on the group).
>>>
>>> On Oct 14, 2022, at 5:30 PM, Leah Peterson  wrote:
>>>
>>> 
>>>
>>> I picked up my bike today. I had the work done yesterday but when I got 
>>> home I realized the rear dyno light wasn’t illuminating. Back I went, and 
>>> since the shop was working on the light, I begged them to fix the wiring 
>>> job they had done. The wires were bunched up and zip tied with black zip 
>>> ties right behind my head tube. Really unsightly. I brought my raspberry 
>>> Platypus along to illustrate a beautiful wiring job. I told them I’d pay 
>>> them all over again for labor (to their credit, they tried not to accept, 
>>> but I think it was fair to pay again because they were redoing the wiring 
>>> for cosmetic reasons) if we could just mirror the red bike’s wiring. They 
>>> studied the racing Platypus and snapped some photos. Then, they got to 
>>> work. 
>>>
>>> There was some problem with the connection for the rear light, so they 
>>> replaced it. And there was an extra connection behind the headlight, so 
>>> they eliminated it. They zip-tied the wires to the cables that run 
>>> alongside the down tube. They secured the extra wire near the kickstand 
>>> plate instead of by the pretty lugs at the head tube. Nice and hidden. This 
>>> is not the bike I’m precious about, but I still like it to look pretty. The 
>>> shop did a really nice job; I bet they will do their zip ties to the cables 
>>> from now on. There really isn’t any drawback that I can see and it is so 
>>> aesthetically pleasing. If I ever get access to mint-colored zip ties I’ll 
>>> replace the black ones.
>>>
>>> [image: image0.jpeg]
>>>
>>>
>>> [image: image9.jpeg]
>>>
>>>
>>> [image: image1.jpeg]
>>>
>>> Here it is, bare naked:
>>> [image: image8.jpeg]
>>>
>>> I put the basket on the rack and hung the bags. It feels very different 
>>> without the weight on the front end, but I think I love it. I have had zero 
>>> time to ride tonight, but should weather cooperate, I’ll test it out this 
>>> weekend. I really, REALLY love that I no longer deal with wheel flop. 
>>>
>>> [image: image4.jpeg]
>>>
>>> The reflector on the side of the Ron’s bag needs a new home. To be 
>>> determined.
>>> [image: image5.jpeg]
>>>
>>> [image: image6.jpeg]
>>>
>>> Thanks for all your help and posts on this thread! It is fun to 
>>> reconfigure a bike in ways that might better serve.
>>> Leah 
>>>
>>> On Oct 14, 2022, at 5:22 PM, Leah Peterson  wrote:
>>>
>>> Joe, isn’t it the truth? I got it all put right now, I think! More on 
>>> that later. I’m headed out to dinner…
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>> On Oct 14, 2022, at 3:36 PM, Joe Bernard  wrote:
>>>
>>> Someday a bike shop is going to put one of your bikes back together 
>>> properly. Maybe not today, maybe not tomorrow, but that day will come.  
>>>
>>> On Thursday, October 13, 2022 at 7:23:02 PM UTC-7 Bicycle Belle Ding 
>>> Ding! wrote:
>>>
 I got my bike done today at the shop and it has made a huge difference 
 in ease of lifting it onto the rack. I didn’t get far with setting it up 
 again because when I got home I realized the rear dyno light isn’t working 
 now. She shop had to mess with the dyno wiring and something is likely 
 off, 
 but I can’t see what. Also, they wadded up the wire and zip tied it to the 
 top tube, near that pretty head tube lug and it’s hideous. I will beg them 
 (and pay them again) to wire that bike more classily. My other bike is a 
 perfect example, so maybe I bring that in as a guide. 

 But, once I get these details handled, I do think I’m going to love the 
 improvements. Photos to come!

 On Monday, October 10, 2022 at 4:29:17 PM UTC-4 pi...@gmail.com wrote:

> That's because your romanceur is a low trail bike with 36mm of trail 
> as opposed to the 55-60mm on typical Rivendell bikes.  Conversely, that's 
> why the Romanceur won't ride well without a front load!  That makes bikes 
> like 

Re: [RBW] Tire shipping advice

['Eric Norris' via RBW Owners Bunch]

I e shooed folded beaded tires many times. It doesn’t hurt them. –Eric NOn Oct 15, 2022, at 3:50 PM, Garth  wrote:Yeah, basically use a box cutter to literally make a custom box no bigger than the tires. You can use some hot glue for integrity if you're worried, but good tape should suffice. On Saturday, October 15, 2022 at 5:35:07 PM UTC-4 bjmi...@gmail.com wrote:You can get creative with how you cut cardboard boxes into different shapes. If you find one big enough to lay the tires down in, you can use a razor/box opener to cut down the corners of the box and then trim the flaps to the size you need. It's really hard to explain and it's something I messed up a few times before I could do it well (I work in a golf shop that ships oddly shaped things now and then), but it's do-able. Otherwise, you could try to find unwanted TV boxes or cardboard boxes that people ship art in? Good luck,Ben On Sat, Oct 15, 2022 at 4:20 PM Ezri Rose  wrote:Does anyone have experience shipping wire bead tyres? I have some 26" studded Schwalbe Marathon winter tyres I would like to sell. But I have no idea how to ship them. It's probably not good for them to fold them, right? Selling them locally isn't an option, as I've moved from Colorado to Florida Ezri,Merritt Island, FL



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Re: [RBW] Tire shipping advice

[Garth]

Yeah, basically use a box cutter to literally make a custom box no bigger 
than the tires. You can use some hot glue for integrity if you're worried, 
but good tape should suffice. 

On Saturday, October 15, 2022 at 5:35:07 PM UTC-4 bjmi...@gmail.com wrote:

> You can get creative with how you cut cardboard boxes into different 
> shapes. If you find one big enough to lay the tires down in, you can use a 
> razor/box opener to cut down the corners of the box and then trim the flaps 
> to the size you need. It's really hard to explain and it's something I 
> messed up a few times before I could do it well (I work in a golf shop that 
> ships oddly shaped things now and then), but it's do-able. 
>
> Otherwise, you could try to find unwanted TV boxes or cardboard boxes that 
> people ship art in? 
>
> Good luck,
> Ben 
>
> On Sat, Oct 15, 2022 at 4:20 PM Ezri Rose  wrote:
>
>> Does anyone have experience shipping wire bead tyres? I have some 26" 
>> studded Schwalbe Marathon winter tyres I would like to sell. But I have no 
>> idea how to ship them. It's probably not good for them to fold them, right? 
>> Selling them locally isn't an option, as I've moved from Colorado to 
>> Florida 
>> Ezri,
>> Merritt Island, FL
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[RBW] Re: For sale, Suntour Superbe brakes

[Garth]

Dissing on someone's for sale posting is just not cooland it wasn't 
even for the right brake. doubly shmubly


On Saturday, October 15, 2022 at 4:10:13 PM UTC-4 pi wrote:

> If these are the superbe pro sidepull calipers they are junk. I had a pair 
> and they could never stay centered.

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Re: [RBW] Tire shipping advice

[Ben Mihovk]

You can get creative with how you cut cardboard boxes into different
shapes. If you find one big enough to lay the tires down in, you can use a
razor/box opener to cut down the corners of the box and then trim the flaps
to the size you need. It's really hard to explain and it's something I
messed up a few times before I could do it well (I work in a golf shop that
ships oddly shaped things now and then), but it's do-able.

Otherwise, you could try to find unwanted TV boxes or cardboard boxes that
people ship art in?

Good luck,
Ben

On Sat, Oct 15, 2022 at 4:20 PM Ezri Rose  wrote:

> Does anyone have experience shipping wire bead tyres? I have some 26"
> studded Schwalbe Marathon winter tyres I would like to sell. But I have no
> idea how to ship them. It's probably not good for them to fold them, right?
> Selling them locally isn't an option, as I've moved from Colorado to
> Florida 
> Ezri,
> Merritt Island, FL
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[RBW] Tire shipping advice

[Ezri Rose]

Does anyone have experience shipping wire bead tyres? I have some 26" 
studded Schwalbe Marathon winter tyres I would like to sell. But I have no 
idea how to ship them. It's probably not good for them to fold them, right? 
Selling them locally isn't an option, as I've moved from Colorado to 
Florida 
Ezri,
Merritt Island, FL

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[RBW] Re: For sale, Suntour Superbe brakes

[Greg J]

First of all, the OP says these are nutted Superbe 47-57mm brakes with 
Mathousers.  Not superbe pros.  
Second, the hidden spring Superbe Pros are very nice brakes, 
notwithstanding that one or more people may not have found them to be 
perfect.  
Third, dual pivots may be superior in some aspects, but these Superbe 
brakes do not lack for anything.



On Saturday, October 15, 2022 at 1:41:34 PM UTC-7 Joe Bernard wrote:

> Bro that's a weird place to go on someone's FS posting. 
>
> On Saturday, October 15, 2022 at 1:10:13 PM UTC-7 pi...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> If these are the superbe pro sidepull calipers they are junk. I had a 
>> pair and they could never stay centered. Full analysis here: 
>> http://pardo.net/bike/pic/fail-023/000.html
>>
>> Dual pivots of almost any make are superior. Other sidepulls exist that 
>> don't have these problems.
>>
>>
>> On Saturday, October 15, 2022 at 12:38:11 PM UTC-7 Ray Varella wrote:
>>
>>> Up for sale is a very clean pair of Suntour Superbe brake calipers. 
>>> Front and rear, nutted 47-57mm reach with Mathhauser pads. 
>>> $85 plus shipping. 
>>> Email rayvarella007 at gmail dot com 
>>>
>>> Thank you 
>>> Ray
>>>
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[RBW] Re: For sale, Suntour Superbe brakes

[Joe Bernard]

Bro that's a weird place to go on someone's FS posting. 

On Saturday, October 15, 2022 at 1:10:13 PM UTC-7 pi...@gmail.com wrote:

> If these are the superbe pro sidepull calipers they are junk. I had a pair 
> and they could never stay centered. Full analysis here: 
> http://pardo.net/bike/pic/fail-023/000.html
>
> Dual pivots of almost any make are superior. Other sidepulls exist that 
> don't have these problems.
>
>
> On Saturday, October 15, 2022 at 12:38:11 PM UTC-7 Ray Varella wrote:
>
>> Up for sale is a very clean pair of Suntour Superbe brake calipers. 
>> Front and rear, nutted 47-57mm reach with Mathhauser pads. 
>> $85 plus shipping. 
>> Email rayvarella007 at gmail dot com 
>>
>> Thank you 
>> Ray
>>
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[RBW] Clem for sale

[Richard Rose]

Hello. Regarding the Clem, I have two questions. First, being a 2020 model, 
does this bike share the geometry of the newest Clem’s? Or, is this the 
previous version? Second, as pictured what size rider fits this bike?
Thanks, Richard

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[RBW] Re: For sale, Suntour Superbe brakes

[Piaw Na]

If these are the superbe pro sidepull calipers they are junk. I had a pair 
and they could never stay centered. Full analysis here: 
http://pardo.net/bike/pic/fail-023/000.html

Dual pivots of almost any make are superior. Other sidepulls exist that 
don't have these problems.


On Saturday, October 15, 2022 at 12:38:11 PM UTC-7 Ray Varella wrote:

> Up for sale is a very clean pair of Suntour Superbe brake calipers. 
> Front and rear, nutted 47-57mm reach with Mathhauser pads. 
> $85 plus shipping. 
> Email rayvarella007 at gmail dot com 
>
> Thank you 
> Ray
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[RBW] For sale, Suntour Superbe brakes

[Ray Varella]

Up for sale is a very clean pair of Suntour Superbe brake calipers. 
Front and rear, nutted 47-57mm reach with Mathhauser pads. 
$85 plus shipping. 
Email rayvarella007 at gmail dot com 

Thank you 
Ray

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[RBW] Re: For sale Simplex Retrofriction shifters + Suntour hub

[Ray Varella]

Shifters are sold, hub is still available. 

Before anyone squanders their discretionary income on bike parts…$25 
invested in Apple in 2000 would be worth roughly $8,000
I don’t know where or when I acquired this hub, if anyone buys it I’ll 
include a rear XC-Pro grease guard hub in never built condition BUT, the 
hub had its axle chopped with a hacksaw, it’s about 130mm. It’s a freewheel 
hub
On Saturday, October 15, 2022 at 11:09:49 AM UTC-7 Ryan wrote:

> I'm not criticizing the $50 price for the Suntour XC9000 hub, but I 
> remember buying one from Riv in the early 2000's for...$20-25 USD which was 
> a flat-out bargain. $50 is still more than reasonable for this classic. It 
> is a beautiful smooth-running  hub; so nice I had a local wheel builder 
> friend lace it to grey-anodized RM-17 rims with an older 105 rear bought 
> from Sheldon Brown at Harris Cyclery for my 1993 X0-1
>
> On Saturday, October 15, 2022 at 12:54:27 PM UTC-5 Ray Varella wrote:
>
>> Up for sale is a lightly used pair of Simplex Retrofriction shifters. 
>> Clean and very nice 
>> $55 + shipping. 
>> Suntour XC 9000 front hub. 
>> 32 hole, NOS, never laced. 
>> Very nice sealed bearing hub $50 + shipping. 
>>
>> Email rayvarella007 at gmail dot com 
>>
>> Local pickup in Vallejo CA is also an option. 
>>
>> Thank you 
>> Ray
>>
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[RBW] Re: For Sale Shiny Rack

[Jared Wilson]

$160/shipped is a great deal for this rack, we have (2) in use and love 
them.

Best of luck with the sale, Ray!

Jared

On Saturday, October 15, 2022 at 10:48:39 AM UTC-7 Ray Varella wrote:

> Giving this a bump. 
> These are currently $178 from Rivendell and as mentioned in a recent 
> email, will increase in price with the next shipment 
>
> Ray
>
> On Monday, October 10, 2022 at 7:16:50 PM UTC-7 Ray Varella wrote:
>
>> Hey Doug,
>> I’ve used P clamps in the past to mount lights on racks that didn’t have 
>> a mounting tab. 
>> The P goes around the tubing and the studs or screw go through the hole 
>> and the nut secures it in place. 
>> Hardware stores with those drawers full of miscellaneous specialty items 
>> is where I’ve always found P clamps. 
>>
>> Thank you 
>> Ray 
>>
>> On Monday, October 10, 2022 at 5:07:56 AM UTC-7 Doug H. wrote:
>>
>>> Ray,
>>> This is a good deal and I would buy it if I could figure out a way I 
>>> could mount my rear Topline B dynamo taillight. Any ideas?
>>> Doug
>>>
>>> On Sunday, October 9, 2022 at 2:48:38 PM UTC-4 Ray Varella wrote:
>>>
 Offered is a Rivendell Shiny Rack 
 As new, never used. All mounting hardware in original condition. 
 $150 for local pickup 
 $160 shipped

 Email rayvarella007 at gmail dot com 

 Thank you 
 Ray

>>>

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[RBW] Re: For sale Simplex Retrofriction shifters + Suntour hub

[Ryan]

I'm not criticizing the $50 price for the Suntour XC9000 hub, but I 
remember buying one from Riv in the early 2000's for...$20-25 USD which was 
a flat-out bargain. $50 is still more than reasonable for this classic. It 
is a beautiful smooth-running  hub; so nice I had a local wheel builder 
friend lace it to grey-anodized RM-17 rims with an older 105 rear bought 
from Sheldon Brown at Harris Cyclery for my 1993 X0-1

On Saturday, October 15, 2022 at 12:54:27 PM UTC-5 Ray Varella wrote:

> Up for sale is a lightly used pair of Simplex Retrofriction shifters. 
> Clean and very nice 
> $55 + shipping. 
> Suntour XC 9000 front hub. 
> 32 hole, NOS, never laced. 
> Very nice sealed bearing hub $50 + shipping. 
>
> Email rayvarella007 at gmail dot com 
>
> Local pickup in Vallejo CA is also an option. 
>
> Thank you 
> Ray
>

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[RBW] For sale Simplex Retrofriction shifters + Suntour hub

[Ray Varella]

Up for sale is a lightly used pair of Simplex Retrofriction shifters. Clean 
and very nice 
$55 + shipping. 
Suntour XC 9000 front hub. 
32 hole, NOS, never laced. 
Very nice sealed bearing hub $50 + shipping. 

Email rayvarella007 at gmail dot com 

Local pickup in Vallejo CA is also an option. 

Thank you 
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[RBW] Re: For Sale Shiny Rack

[Ray Varella]

Giving this a bump. 
These are currently $178 from Rivendell and as mentioned in a recent email, 
will increase in price with the next shipment 

Ray

On Monday, October 10, 2022 at 7:16:50 PM UTC-7 Ray Varella wrote:

> Hey Doug,
> I’ve used P clamps in the past to mount lights on racks that didn’t have a 
> mounting tab. 
> The P goes around the tubing and the studs or screw go through the hole 
> and the nut secures it in place. 
> Hardware stores with those drawers full of miscellaneous specialty items 
> is where I’ve always found P clamps. 
>
> Thank you 
> Ray 
>
> On Monday, October 10, 2022 at 5:07:56 AM UTC-7 Doug H. wrote:
>
>> Ray,
>> This is a good deal and I would buy it if I could figure out a way I 
>> could mount my rear Topline B dynamo taillight. Any ideas?
>> Doug
>>
>> On Sunday, October 9, 2022 at 2:48:38 PM UTC-4 Ray Varella wrote:
>>
>>> Offered is a Rivendell Shiny Rack 
>>> As new, never used. All mounting hardware in original condition. 
>>> $150 for local pickup 
>>> $160 shipped
>>>
>>> Email rayvarella007 at gmail dot com 
>>>
>>> Thank you 
>>> Ray
>>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: FOR SALE OFMEGA ADABTOR

['Charlie' via RBW Owners Bunch]

 MAKE DOUBLE INTO TRIPLE CRANK EASY TO DO 
CHARLIE

On Friday, October 14, 2022 at 5:37:09 PM UTC-4 Charlie wrote:

>
> NEW [image: DSCF1060.JPG]OFMEGA  ADAPTER FOR 5 RINGS
>
> $30 + SHIPPING $10 CASH - OR USPS MONEY ORDER NO OTHER MONEY ORDER
>
> l DO NOT HAVE PAYPAL.
>
> CONTACT OFF LIST PLEASE
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