[RBW] Re: Homer Hilsen: Braking performance

[reca...@gmail.com]

I also use them and find them to work nearly as well as the higher-end 
brakes I've had. I combine them with a good lever and use kool stop pads 
they work great. That being said, I have never used them with road-style 
levers. 

carlos

On Wednesday, April 26, 2023 at 9:55:11 PM UTC-5 Hoch in ut wrote:

> Thanks again all. I’ll check out the coated cables/housing. I’ve also used 
> Jagwire Pro before with good results. 
>
> If I end up with a Homer, I’ll most likely use it with something like 
> Albatross or Bosco’s so it’d be mtb style short pull levers. 
>
> For those that are knowledgeable about these brakes. I have a pair on 
> hand. What I’ve noticed is a fairly heavy/stuff return spring. Anyone know 
> if lighter springs are available? I’m not sure if I dare try bending the 
> spring. I’d think the lighter action would help with better feel. 
>
> On Wednesday, April 26, 2023 at 8:02:06 PM UTC-6 Jeffrey Arita wrote:
>
>> @Jason Fuller:
>>
>> Good question on which handlebar type are we setting the brake lever with 
>> (TRP RRL + Tektro 559).  We've become big fans of Ritchey Logic "Beacon" 
>> drop type gravel bars (here 
>> ).
>>   
>> They have 36 degrees of flare - some folks might find it severe while 
>> others find it ergonomic.  For us, very easy to brake from either the hoods 
>> or the drops (the severe flare places the brake levers in a much more ergo 
>> position).  Combine the short reach and shallow drop, it makes it comfy (at 
>> least for us) in either position (along with the other available positions).
>>
>> Best regards,
>>
>> Jeff & Lori
>> Claremont, CA
>>
>> On Wednesday, April 26, 2023 at 4:18:50 PM UTC-7 Jason Fuller wrote:
>>
>>> What handlebar type are you setting it up with?  If going with a bar 
>>> that uses MTB style levers such as Albatross, I would be much less 
>>> concerned, because you have much better ergonomic mechanical advantage at 
>>> the lever vs. being on the hoods of a drop bar lever.  I don't believe 
>>> you'll have any issue, and if you did, you could rectify with either better 
>>> pads or going to Paul Racers as mentioned. Then you're certainly well set 
>>> up for mountains - after all Jan Heine prefers centerpulls over other types 
>>> of brakes for his wet, mountain pass-heavy and mixed surface riding. 
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, 26 April 2023 at 01:27:52 UTC-7 Hoch in ut wrote:
>>>
 I’m window shopping for the next project and was interested in the 
 Homer. Great looking frame. My only concern is the brakes. I live in a 
 pretty mountainous area. Meaning plenty of long, fast descents. 

 Those of you with Homers, how have you liked or disliked the brakes? Do 
 the 559’s give you adequate performance to descend with confidence? One 
 thing I do like about caliper brakes are how easy they are to set up and 
 adjust. 
 Thanks for any input. 

>>>

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Re: [RBW] Re: Los Angeles Riv Ride

[Tony Lockhart]

@isaac -- The Cub House events are right around the corner from 
meexcellent bike shop. And their community events are a blast. 
Definitely a great opportunity for a Pasadena ride especially since there 
are a ton of good coffee shops in the area.

@bryce -- Yep, that was orange Sam at Palomares Adobe. What a great 
location. My daughter and I were attending the 626 event and happened upon 
the grounds. Will definitely go back there with the rest of the family in 
the future. BTW, your Atlantis looks dialed in. Really love the handlebar 
setup, and will probably go that route once the Roaduno frames come out.

On Wednesday, April 26, 2023 at 2:03:38 PM UTC-7 cycli...@gmail.com wrote:

> Griffith Park would be doable for me 20th or 27th. 
>
> David 
> Black & Tan Sam
> Thousand Oaks
>
> On Wednesday, April 26, 2023 at 11:54:53 AM UTC-7 dwyer...@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>
>> Hi all –– Atlantis rider in the Pomona Valley here. I could likely make 
>> the 20th or the 27th, with a preference for the 27th.
>>
>> Tony: I think that was my Atlantis you saw! I'd guess that was your 
>> parked orange Riv at the Palomares Adobe that I saw too. What a coincidence!
>>
>> The Mt. Hollywood route is definitely a climb but it has some great 
>> payoff! I usually just take a break or two on my way up.
>> On Tuesday, April 25, 2023 at 9:00:35 PM UTC-7 Tony Lockhart wrote:
>>
>>> I can make it on the 13th or 27th. Also, I teach for a living so the 
>>> schedule's wide open during the summer.
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, April 25, 2023 at 10:21:18 AM UTC-7 Keith P. wrote:
>>>
 I am available on the 13th, but might be flexible on the 20th

 k.

 On Apr 25, 2023, at 9:35 AM, Brian Cunningham  
 wrote:

 Of those 3 dates, I’m only available on the 27th, but my tricky 
 schedule is not everyone else’s problem. I’ll join you if that ends up 
 being the best date for all parties involved.


 Brian 

 Sent from my iPhone

 On Apr 25, 2023, at 8:10 AM, Houston Wilson  wrote:

 Yay, I'm loving hearing from y'all!

 1. *Anyone have a preference for May 13th, 20th, or 27th?*

 2. Regarding the route, it seems like most folks are out east, so 
 Griffith seems like the best option. 

 Ted D.--point taken about Griffith + Hollywood sign not being very 
 chill. So, probably best to just stick to griffith, but if anyone wants to 
 ride to the Hollywood sign after, I'd be super down! 

 So, I'm thinking meet by the Greek and do a little loop up to Vista del 
 Valle and around to the Observatory. This would be about 8 mi with ~1000 
 ft. of elevation. *I don't ride in griffith a ton, so if anyone has 
 route suggestions/food spots to hit up before/after...please share haha! *

 On Tuesday, April 25, 2023 at 7:24:40 AM UTC-7 Bryan wrote:

> Hi! I might be able to make it, schedule permitting. Sounds fun!
>
> Bryan Edgar 
> Valley Village
>
> On Monday, April 24, 2023 at 9:18:43 PM UTC-7 Tony Lockhart wrote:
>
>> Count me in. 
>>
>> I'm in South Pasadena (orange Hillborne bought in 2009). Haven't 
>> browsed this forum in a few years, but decided to check in because I 
>> wanted 
>> to go on a group ride. Oddly enough, I saw a parked Atlantis at the 626 
>> Golden Streets event yesterday. Seems like the perfect time to meet up 
>> with 
>> some other folks, especially since some of the newer Rivs look 
>> drastically 
>> different.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Tony
>>
>> On Monday, April 24, 2023 at 11:08:22 AM UTC-7 bunny...@gmail.com 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hey all!
>>> I will be out of the country for about two weeks in MAY, but would 
>>> love to join if I am in town. By no means should the scheduling be done 
>>> around my availability.
>>>
>>> Cheers!
>>> Ben
>>>
>>> On Monday, April 24, 2023 at 10:34:17 AM UTC-7 Keith P. wrote:
>>>
 I remember Ben/bunnyadrian planning a local ride last year.
 Has he seen this yet?

 On Monday, April 24, 2023 at 10:17:19 AM UTC-7 Ted Durant wrote:

> On Sunday, April 23, 2023 at 4:40:12 PM UTC-5 Houston Wilson wrote:
>
> Depending on where most folks are located, I think it could be 
> cool to do the Will Rogers inspiration loop in the Western Santa 
> Monica's 
> or a Griffith Park/Hollywood Sign moment. Regardless, it'd be a chill 
> pace 
> with a cafe stop or two thrown in. 
>
> I don't think I'm going to make it out that way in May. In fact, 
> my LA daughter is planning to come here for a week. I'll watch the 
> thread 
> with interest, though. As for the route ... I can't imagine Griffith 
> Park/Hollywood Sign being a very "chill" ride - that's a lot of 
> climbing! 
> But it's 

Re: [RBW] Re: Show Me Your Atlantis!

[vernon brooks]

Thank you for the input and image Bill. 

I've thought about fabricating something similar and agree with the 
statement regarding p-clamp use although it does the trick in a pinch.

Will follow with a conclusion if some sort.

Vern in San Francisco

On Wednesday, April 26, 2023 at 9:38:08 AM UTC-7 Bill Schairer wrote:

> Vern,
>
> I had some steel flat stock maybe 1/2" by 1/8".  I cut two pieces maybe 
> 1.5" in length and drilled holes at the ends.  Because the BG racks have 
> the long mounting slot that allow for lots of adjustment, the measurements 
> did not need to be terribly precise.  I rounded off the corners and 
> painted.  I've done this on two bikes now with very satisfactory results.  
> The Atlantis has done two one week trips on GDMBR and one two month (~300 
> miles of gravel) trip to Alaska all heavily loaded with this arrangement 
> with zero issues.  They are rock solid.  P clamps and U bolts are 
> aesthetically unpleasing to me but probably perfectly adequate.[image: 
> IMG_1618.JPG]
> [image: Screenshot 2023-04-26 at 9.27.17 AM.png]
> This was fresh gravel.  We also encountered rough stuff and I never had 
> any problems.  I think I used nylon lock nuts on the lower bolts.
>
> Bill S
> San Diego
>
>
> On Tuesday, April 25, 2023 at 8:17:00 PM UTC-7 plumber...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>>
>> [image: thumbnail_IMG_9772.jpg]
>> TLC due will follow up with another image shortly.
>>
>> Bill in SD I have the same BG rack set and am wondering if you have a 
>> close up shot of front mounting points? 
>>
>> My fork only had lower eyelets so maybe I need to use p-clamps to secure 
>> upper mounts to the fork...
>>
>> Vern in San Francisco
>> On Tuesday, April 25, 2023 at 2:18:30 PM UTC-7 Bill Schairer wrote:
>>
>>> [image: IMG_1615.jpeg]
>>> Bill S
>>> San Diego
>>>
>>> On Monday, October 10, 2022 at 9:43:17 PM UTC-7 Luke Hendrickson wrote:
>>>

 I support that idea dude
 On Monday, October 10, 2022 at 4:50:17 PM UTC-7 larson@gmail.com 
 wrote:

> Looks great! I have thought about an Atlantis set up with knobby tires 
> and a bullmoose bar as my mtb.
>
> On Monday, October 10, 2022 at 2:00:41 PM UTC-5 Luke Hendrickson wrote:
>
>> Imma revive this thread with my dream Riv. I’ve since added dust caps 
>> to the crankset, but otherwise this is as it appears now (well, I also 
>> changed the cassette but whatever).
>>
>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: Homer Hilsen: Braking performance

[Hoch in ut]

Thanks again all. I’ll check out the coated cables/housing. I’ve also used 
Jagwire Pro before with good results. 

If I end up with a Homer, I’ll most likely use it with something like 
Albatross or Bosco’s so it’d be mtb style short pull levers. 

For those that are knowledgeable about these brakes. I have a pair on hand. 
What I’ve noticed is a fairly heavy/stuff return spring. Anyone know if 
lighter springs are available? I’m not sure if I dare try bending the 
spring. I’d think the lighter action would help with better feel. 

On Wednesday, April 26, 2023 at 8:02:06 PM UTC-6 Jeffrey Arita wrote:

> @Jason Fuller:
>
> Good question on which handlebar type are we setting the brake lever with 
> (TRP RRL + Tektro 559).  We've become big fans of Ritchey Logic "Beacon" 
> drop type gravel bars (here 
> ).
>   
> They have 36 degrees of flare - some folks might find it severe while 
> others find it ergonomic.  For us, very easy to brake from either the hoods 
> or the drops (the severe flare places the brake levers in a much more ergo 
> position).  Combine the short reach and shallow drop, it makes it comfy (at 
> least for us) in either position (along with the other available positions).
>
> Best regards,
>
> Jeff & Lori
> Claremont, CA
>
> On Wednesday, April 26, 2023 at 4:18:50 PM UTC-7 Jason Fuller wrote:
>
>> What handlebar type are you setting it up with?  If going with a bar that 
>> uses MTB style levers such as Albatross, I would be much less concerned, 
>> because you have much better ergonomic mechanical advantage at the lever 
>> vs. being on the hoods of a drop bar lever.  I don't believe you'll have 
>> any issue, and if you did, you could rectify with either better pads or 
>> going to Paul Racers as mentioned. Then you're certainly well set up for 
>> mountains - after all Jan Heine prefers centerpulls over other types of 
>> brakes for his wet, mountain pass-heavy and mixed surface riding. 
>>
>> On Wednesday, 26 April 2023 at 01:27:52 UTC-7 Hoch in ut wrote:
>>
>>> I’m window shopping for the next project and was interested in the 
>>> Homer. Great looking frame. My only concern is the brakes. I live in a 
>>> pretty mountainous area. Meaning plenty of long, fast descents. 
>>>
>>> Those of you with Homers, how have you liked or disliked the brakes? Do 
>>> the 559’s give you adequate performance to descend with confidence? One 
>>> thing I do like about caliper brakes are how easy they are to set up and 
>>> adjust. 
>>> Thanks for any input. 
>>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: Seeking Velocity Synergy Rim

[Fullylugged]

Velocity dropped the OC version of the Synergy a while ago after reports of 
rim cracking appeared. Then they dropped the Synergy model altogether. The 
Atlas model takes the place of Synergy now.   You can still get OC rims in 
the A23 model in 700c size.

On Wednesday, April 26, 2023 at 7:29:24 AM UTC-5 mhec...@gmail.com wrote:

> I have damaged my rear 650b /32H OC rim and need to replace it.  I am 
> hoping to find the exact replacement, to reuse the spokes, but they seem to 
> be out of production.  If anyone has one sitting around unused I would like 
> to have it.
>
> Michael
>

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[RBW] PSA: Bike Snob blog becoming all-Rivendell blog

[Patrick Moore]

Yesterday's and today's posts are all about his Homer and he said: *And
yes, this is an all-Rivendell blog now,* and devoted most of both to
shopping and commuting (including locking up the Homer downtown for a long
time).

In case you find his humor appealing. Riv content: Grant likes him and
advertises on the blogsite.


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[RBW] Re: Homer Hilsen: Braking performance

[Jeffrey Arita]

@Jason Fuller:

Good question on which handlebar type are we setting the brake lever with 
(TRP RRL + Tektro 559).  We've become big fans of Ritchey Logic "Beacon" 
drop type gravel bars (here 
).
  
They have 36 degrees of flare - some folks might find it severe while 
others find it ergonomic.  For us, very easy to brake from either the hoods 
or the drops (the severe flare places the brake levers in a much more ergo 
position).  Combine the short reach and shallow drop, it makes it comfy (at 
least for us) in either position (along with the other available positions).

Best regards,

Jeff & Lori
Claremont, CA

On Wednesday, April 26, 2023 at 4:18:50 PM UTC-7 Jason Fuller wrote:

> What handlebar type are you setting it up with?  If going with a bar that 
> uses MTB style levers such as Albatross, I would be much less concerned, 
> because you have much better ergonomic mechanical advantage at the lever 
> vs. being on the hoods of a drop bar lever.  I don't believe you'll have 
> any issue, and if you did, you could rectify with either better pads or 
> going to Paul Racers as mentioned. Then you're certainly well set up for 
> mountains - after all Jan Heine prefers centerpulls over other types of 
> brakes for his wet, mountain pass-heavy and mixed surface riding. 
>
> On Wednesday, 26 April 2023 at 01:27:52 UTC-7 Hoch in ut wrote:
>
>> I’m window shopping for the next project and was interested in the Homer. 
>> Great looking frame. My only concern is the brakes. I live in a pretty 
>> mountainous area. Meaning plenty of long, fast descents. 
>>
>> Those of you with Homers, how have you liked or disliked the brakes? Do 
>> the 559’s give you adequate performance to descend with confidence? One 
>> thing I do like about caliper brakes are how easy they are to set up and 
>> adjust. 
>> Thanks for any input. 
>>
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: Homer Hilsen: Braking performance

[a spen]

I'll add another vote to the "Like 'em" column. I have them on my Ram with 
a 650b conversion, so they are fully extended.  As others have said, they 
cannot compete with disks, but I have never found them lacking. 
I wasn't always as positive about them but then someone on another thread 
mentioned about being sure to match the right levers with the right brakes, 
and sure enough, I was using long-pull brake levers which provide less 
mechanical advantage at the lever, so  swapped them out for short/standard 
pull and it made all the difference, I greatly enjoy them now.
 For reference, I run about 230 lbs, and ride in the very steep Appalachian 
mountains of Virginia, and never-ever-ever ride in the (bad for you) drops .

Al in VA


On Wednesday, April 26, 2023 at 7:29:07 PM UTC-4 pi...@gmail.com wrote:

> Ah... Now I understand why people have trouble with sidepull caliper 
> brakes --- if you're actuating the brake from the hood as opposed to being 
> on the drops, that would definitely reduce the braking power you have. On 
> any kind of steep descent I'm always on the drops. Sometimes even on the 
> flats I'll be on the drops.
>
> On Wed, Apr 26, 2023 at 4:18 PM Jason Fuller  wrote:
>
>> What handlebar type are you setting it up with?  If going with a bar that 
>> uses MTB style levers such as Albatross, I would be much less concerned, 
>> because you have much better ergonomic mechanical advantage at the lever 
>> vs. being on the hoods of a drop bar lever.  I don't believe you'll have 
>> any issue, and if you did, you could rectify with either better pads or 
>> going to Paul Racers as mentioned. Then you're certainly well set up for 
>> mountains - after all Jan Heine prefers centerpulls over other types of 
>> brakes for his wet, mountain pass-heavy and mixed surface riding. 
>>
>> On Wednesday, 26 April 2023 at 01:27:52 UTC-7 Hoch in ut wrote:
>>
>>> I’m window shopping for the next project and was interested in the 
>>> Homer. Great looking frame. My only concern is the brakes. I live in a 
>>> pretty mountainous area. Meaning plenty of long, fast descents. 
>>>
>>> Those of you with Homers, how have you liked or disliked the brakes? Do 
>>> the 559’s give you adequate performance to descend with confidence? One 
>>> thing I do like about caliper brakes are how easy they are to set up and 
>>> adjust. 
>>> Thanks for any input. 
>>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Lighter than your Platypus

[Patrick Moore]

Actually, this is very true, all else equal. I recall riding a long time
ago up and back our 7-mile Tramway hill with a much lighter rider. I'm
slender at 170, but he was small and slender and probably 30 lb lighter;
our bikes -- me on my 1995 26" wheel Riv Road custom -- were much the same.
I did pretty well uphill -- I recall using my 60" gear -- but downhill I
had to keep braking (air brake) to keep from running away from him.

Of course he had to sit up and twiddle to stay with me on the climb, as
this was a man who once said, "I only did 9,000 miles last year -- it was a
bad year."

Leah, your Platypus is really one of the list's prettiest bikes while my
Matthews can best be described as industrial. But mine is still lighter.


On Wed, Apr 26, 2023 at 2:07 PM Doug H.  wrote:

> My Clem is heavier than all of those lightweight bikes. And, I roll so
> fast down hills!!
> Doug
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Re: [RBW] Re: Homer Hilsen: Braking performance

[藍俊彪]

Ah... Now I understand why people have trouble with sidepull caliper brakes
--- if you're actuating the brake from the hood as opposed to being on the
drops, that would definitely reduce the braking power you have. On any kind
of steep descent I'm always on the drops. Sometimes even on the flats I'll
be on the drops.

On Wed, Apr 26, 2023 at 4:18 PM Jason Fuller  wrote:

> What handlebar type are you setting it up with?  If going with a bar that
> uses MTB style levers such as Albatross, I would be much less concerned,
> because you have much better ergonomic mechanical advantage at the lever
> vs. being on the hoods of a drop bar lever.  I don't believe you'll have
> any issue, and if you did, you could rectify with either better pads or
> going to Paul Racers as mentioned. Then you're certainly well set up for
> mountains - after all Jan Heine prefers centerpulls over other types of
> brakes for his wet, mountain pass-heavy and mixed surface riding.
>
> On Wednesday, 26 April 2023 at 01:27:52 UTC-7 Hoch in ut wrote:
>
>> I’m window shopping for the next project and was interested in the Homer.
>> Great looking frame. My only concern is the brakes. I live in a pretty
>> mountainous area. Meaning plenty of long, fast descents.
>>
>> Those of you with Homers, how have you liked or disliked the brakes? Do
>> the 559’s give you adequate performance to descend with confidence? One
>> thing I do like about caliper brakes are how easy they are to set up and
>> adjust.
>> Thanks for any input.
>>
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[RBW] Re: Homer Hilsen: Braking performance

[Jason Fuller]

What handlebar type are you setting it up with?  If going with a bar that 
uses MTB style levers such as Albatross, I would be much less concerned, 
because you have much better ergonomic mechanical advantage at the lever 
vs. being on the hoods of a drop bar lever.  I don't believe you'll have 
any issue, and if you did, you could rectify with either better pads or 
going to Paul Racers as mentioned. Then you're certainly well set up for 
mountains - after all Jan Heine prefers centerpulls over other types of 
brakes for his wet, mountain pass-heavy and mixed surface riding. 

On Wednesday, 26 April 2023 at 01:27:52 UTC-7 Hoch in ut wrote:

> I’m window shopping for the next project and was interested in the Homer. 
> Great looking frame. My only concern is the brakes. I live in a pretty 
> mountainous area. Meaning plenty of long, fast descents. 
>
> Those of you with Homers, how have you liked or disliked the brakes? Do 
> the 559’s give you adequate performance to descend with confidence? One 
> thing I do like about caliper brakes are how easy they are to set up and 
> adjust. 
> Thanks for any input. 
>

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[RBW] Re: PSA: Legolas for sale

[Johnny Alien]

Thats too big for me but its a stunning color and build.

On Wednesday, April 26, 2023 at 4:45:32 PM UTC-4 andyree...@gmail.com wrote:

> That's a darn good price too. I'd honestly give this person a few bucks 
> via GoFundMe to NOT have to sell their dialed Legolas! 
> On Tuesday, April 25, 2023 at 3:30:13 PM UTC-5 eric...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> [image: Untitled.png]
>>
>> Legolas, 59cm
>> $3,400 
>> Portland, Oregon
>>
>> Saw this on the Bobish Bikes for Sale forum 
>> https://groups.google.com/g/bobishbikesfs/c/Bo7llfNUeaE
>>
>> "This is my dream bike for adventure riding in Oregon. If you are 
>> familiar with Rivendells, you know these don't come up for sale very often 
>> – I sought after one for many years before I finally found the frame right 
>> on the RBW list. 
>>
>> I have built the bike up slowly, acquiring exactly the parts I imagined 
>> would complete a perfect build. This includes:
>> - Velocity quill rims laced to a Shutter Precision dynamo front hub & 
>> titanium body Dura Ace fh-7900 rear
>> - Busch Mueller IQ-x front lamp, micro rear
>> - Paul Minimoto brakes
>> - Nitto soba bars with TRP RRL SR levers
>> - Mix of Sun, Shimano, Nitto parts
>> - Brooks Swallow Titanium saddle
>>
>> Alas, soon after I finally got it dialed in to perfection, my whole life 
>> changed. I now need to sell this bike, and I hope it will go to someone who 
>> loves it as much as I do. Asking $3400 plus shipping from Portland, Oregon.
>>
>> Photos and full build details are available here:
>>
>> https://quicklywilliam.notion.site/Rivendell-Legolas-93889153504547b79fba9a124170c60d
>> "
>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Los Angeles Riv Ride

[David Person]

Griffith Park would be doable for me 20th or 27th. 

David 
Black & Tan Sam
Thousand Oaks

On Wednesday, April 26, 2023 at 11:54:53 AM UTC-7 dwyer...@gmail.com wrote:

> Hi all –– Atlantis rider in the Pomona Valley here. I could likely make 
> the 20th or the 27th, with a preference for the 27th.
>
> Tony: I think that was my Atlantis you saw! I'd guess that was your parked 
> orange Riv at the Palomares Adobe that I saw too. What a coincidence!
>
> The Mt. Hollywood route is definitely a climb but it has some great 
> payoff! I usually just take a break or two on my way up.
> On Tuesday, April 25, 2023 at 9:00:35 PM UTC-7 Tony Lockhart wrote:
>
>> I can make it on the 13th or 27th. Also, I teach for a living so the 
>> schedule's wide open during the summer.
>>
>> On Tuesday, April 25, 2023 at 10:21:18 AM UTC-7 Keith P. wrote:
>>
>>> I am available on the 13th, but might be flexible on the 20th
>>>
>>> k.
>>>
>>> On Apr 25, 2023, at 9:35 AM, Brian Cunningham  
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Of those 3 dates, I’m only available on the 27th, but my tricky 
>>> schedule is not everyone else’s problem. I’ll join you if that ends up 
>>> being the best date for all parties involved.
>>>
>>>
>>> Brian 
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>> On Apr 25, 2023, at 8:10 AM, Houston Wilson  wrote:
>>>
>>> Yay, I'm loving hearing from y'all!
>>>
>>> 1. *Anyone have a preference for May 13th, 20th, or 27th?*
>>>
>>> 2. Regarding the route, it seems like most folks are out east, so 
>>> Griffith seems like the best option. 
>>>
>>> Ted D.--point taken about Griffith + Hollywood sign not being very 
>>> chill. So, probably best to just stick to griffith, but if anyone wants to 
>>> ride to the Hollywood sign after, I'd be super down! 
>>>
>>> So, I'm thinking meet by the Greek and do a little loop up to Vista del 
>>> Valle and around to the Observatory. This would be about 8 mi with ~1000 
>>> ft. of elevation. *I don't ride in griffith a ton, so if anyone has 
>>> route suggestions/food spots to hit up before/after...please share haha! *
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, April 25, 2023 at 7:24:40 AM UTC-7 Bryan wrote:
>>>
 Hi! I might be able to make it, schedule permitting. Sounds fun!

 Bryan Edgar 
 Valley Village

 On Monday, April 24, 2023 at 9:18:43 PM UTC-7 Tony Lockhart wrote:

> Count me in. 
>
> I'm in South Pasadena (orange Hillborne bought in 2009). Haven't 
> browsed this forum in a few years, but decided to check in because I 
> wanted 
> to go on a group ride. Oddly enough, I saw a parked Atlantis at the 626 
> Golden Streets event yesterday. Seems like the perfect time to meet up 
> with 
> some other folks, especially since some of the newer Rivs look 
> drastically 
> different.
>
> Cheers,
> Tony
>
> On Monday, April 24, 2023 at 11:08:22 AM UTC-7 bunny...@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>
>> Hey all!
>> I will be out of the country for about two weeks in MAY, but would 
>> love to join if I am in town. By no means should the scheduling be done 
>> around my availability.
>>
>> Cheers!
>> Ben
>>
>> On Monday, April 24, 2023 at 10:34:17 AM UTC-7 Keith P. wrote:
>>
>>> I remember Ben/bunnyadrian planning a local ride last year.
>>> Has he seen this yet?
>>>
>>> On Monday, April 24, 2023 at 10:17:19 AM UTC-7 Ted Durant wrote:
>>>
 On Sunday, April 23, 2023 at 4:40:12 PM UTC-5 Houston Wilson wrote:

 Depending on where most folks are located, I think it could be cool 
 to do the Will Rogers inspiration loop in the Western Santa Monica's 
 or a 
 Griffith Park/Hollywood Sign moment. Regardless, it'd be a chill pace 
 with 
 a cafe stop or two thrown in. 

 I don't think I'm going to make it out that way in May. In fact, my 
 LA daughter is planning to come here for a week. I'll watch the thread 
 with 
 interest, though. As for the route ... I can't imagine Griffith 
 Park/Hollywood Sign being a very "chill" ride - that's a lot of 
 climbing! 
 But it's beautiful and fun.

 Ted Durant
 Milwaukee, WI (and occasionally Alhambra, CA) 

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[RBW] Re: PSA: Legolas for sale

[Andrew Turner]

That's a darn good price too. I'd honestly give this person a few bucks via 
GoFundMe to NOT have to sell their dialed Legolas! 
On Tuesday, April 25, 2023 at 3:30:13 PM UTC-5 eric...@gmail.com wrote:

> [image: Untitled.png]
>
> Legolas, 59cm
> $3,400 
> Portland, Oregon
>
> Saw this on the Bobish Bikes for Sale forum 
> https://groups.google.com/g/bobishbikesfs/c/Bo7llfNUeaE
>
> "This is my dream bike for adventure riding in Oregon. If you are familiar 
> with Rivendells, you know these don't come up for sale very often – I 
> sought after one for many years before I finally found the frame right on 
> the RBW list. 
>
> I have built the bike up slowly, acquiring exactly the parts I imagined 
> would complete a perfect build. This includes:
> - Velocity quill rims laced to a Shutter Precision dynamo front hub & 
> titanium body Dura Ace fh-7900 rear
> - Busch Mueller IQ-x front lamp, micro rear
> - Paul Minimoto brakes
> - Nitto soba bars with TRP RRL SR levers
> - Mix of Sun, Shimano, Nitto parts
> - Brooks Swallow Titanium saddle
>
> Alas, soon after I finally got it dialed in to perfection, my whole life 
> changed. I now need to sell this bike, and I hope it will go to someone who 
> loves it as much as I do. Asking $3400 plus shipping from Portland, Oregon.
>
> Photos and full build details are available here:
>
> https://quicklywilliam.notion.site/Rivendell-Legolas-93889153504547b79fba9a124170c60d
> "
>

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[RBW] Re: Homer Hilsen: Braking performance

[Nick Payne]

I'll chime in on the side of those who find the Tektro 556/559 calipers 
stop well (Koolstop pads, Shimano R400 brake levers). I've had my Bleriot 
with 556 calipers on tours in the mountains several times, and not had any 
problems with inadequate stopping power. The braking isn't as good as with 
disc brakes (in over 50 years of cycling, I've never used a rim brake of 
which I would say that), but it's very little different in power from that 
with cantilevers/centrepull/v-brakes that offer similar tyre clearance.

Nick

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Re: [RBW] Re: Lighter than your Platypus

[Doug H.]

My Clem is heavier than all of those lightweight bikes. And, I roll so fast 
down hills!!
Doug

On Wednesday, April 26, 2023 at 7:34:29 AM UTC-4 DavidP wrote:

> Who weighs a Platypus?
>
> -Dave (whose 60cm frame/fork/headset weigh 10lbs)
>
> On Wednesday, April 26, 2023 at 6:23:39 AM UTC-4 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
> wrote:
>
>> Well, I don’t see how this is possible since your Matthews isn’t even 
>> raspberry.
>>
>> [image: image0.jpeg]
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Apr 26, 2023, at 4:51 AM, Garth  wrote:
>>
>> As if any comparison is ever fair  . heeheehee .  The title of 
>> your post is hilarious Patrick ;-)  
>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Lighter than your Platypus

[Doug H.]

My Clem is heavier than all of those lightweight bikes. Weenies.
Doug

On Wednesday, April 26, 2023 at 7:34:29 AM UTC-4 DavidP wrote:

> Who weighs a Platypus?
>
> -Dave (whose 60cm frame/fork/headset weigh 10lbs)
>
> On Wednesday, April 26, 2023 at 6:23:39 AM UTC-4 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
> wrote:
>
>> Well, I don’t see how this is possible since your Matthews isn’t even 
>> raspberry.
>>
>> [image: image0.jpeg]
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Apr 26, 2023, at 4:51 AM, Garth  wrote:
>>
>> As if any comparison is ever fair  . heeheehee .  The title of 
>> your post is hilarious Patrick ;-)  
>>
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[RBW] FS: Schwalbe Thunder Burt 29x2.1

[Dave Grossman]

Bought these for my Hunq but have maybe 10 miles on them.  Performance 
Compound, not listed as tubeless ready.

Asking $85 shipped for the pair CONUS

https://photos.app.goo.gl/iLJw7GZcMSwJLbdv5

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[RBW] Re: Homer Hilsen: Braking performance

[Jeffrey Arita]

I will chime in here: my wife and I ride singles equipped with the Tektro 
559s.  Both bikes use TRP RRL brake levers, so there might be the rub.  
Brake pads all around are Kool Stop salmon pads.  We just completed a 600k 
brevet this past weekend with lots of ups and lots of downs (15k+ of 
elevation gain).  Several of the really steep downhills were on the last 
day - in darkness and speed control (with lots of potholes) was not a 
concern. One frameset is a Soma Pescadero and the other is an older Soma 
Extra Smoothie (both steel frames & forks).  [we used to be Riv AHH & BF 
owners].

Hoch - as you've indicated, they are also extremely easy to set up and 
adjust.

Best regards,

Jeff
Claremont, CA

On Wednesday, April 26, 2023 at 1:27:52 AM UTC-7 Hoch in ut wrote:

> I’m window shopping for the next project and was interested in the Homer. 
> Great looking frame. My only concern is the brakes. I live in a pretty 
> mountainous area. Meaning plenty of long, fast descents. 
>
> Those of you with Homers, how have you liked or disliked the brakes? Do 
> the 559’s give you adequate performance to descend with confidence? One 
> thing I do like about caliper brakes are how easy they are to set up and 
> adjust. 
> Thanks for any input. 
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: Los Angeles Riv Ride

[Bryce Dwyer]

Hi all –– Atlantis rider in the Pomona Valley here. I could likely make the 
20th or the 27th, with a preference for the 27th.

Tony: I think that was my Atlantis you saw! I'd guess that was your parked 
orange Riv at the Palomares Adobe that I saw too. What a coincidence!

The Mt. Hollywood route is definitely a climb but it has some great payoff! 
I usually just take a break or two on my way up.
On Tuesday, April 25, 2023 at 9:00:35 PM UTC-7 Tony Lockhart wrote:

> I can make it on the 13th or 27th. Also, I teach for a living so the 
> schedule's wide open during the summer.
>
> On Tuesday, April 25, 2023 at 10:21:18 AM UTC-7 Keith P. wrote:
>
>> I am available on the 13th, but might be flexible on the 20th
>>
>> k.
>>
>> On Apr 25, 2023, at 9:35 AM, Brian Cunningham  
>> wrote:
>>
>> Of those 3 dates, I’m only available on the 27th, but my tricky schedule 
>> is not everyone else’s problem. I’ll join you if that ends up being the 
>> best date for all parties involved.
>>
>>
>> Brian 
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Apr 25, 2023, at 8:10 AM, Houston Wilson  wrote:
>>
>> Yay, I'm loving hearing from y'all!
>>
>> 1. *Anyone have a preference for May 13th, 20th, or 27th?*
>>
>> 2. Regarding the route, it seems like most folks are out east, so 
>> Griffith seems like the best option. 
>>
>> Ted D.--point taken about Griffith + Hollywood sign not being very chill. 
>> So, probably best to just stick to griffith, but if anyone wants to ride to 
>> the Hollywood sign after, I'd be super down! 
>>
>> So, I'm thinking meet by the Greek and do a little loop up to Vista del 
>> Valle and around to the Observatory. This would be about 8 mi with ~1000 
>> ft. of elevation. *I don't ride in griffith a ton, so if anyone has 
>> route suggestions/food spots to hit up before/after...please share haha! *
>>
>> On Tuesday, April 25, 2023 at 7:24:40 AM UTC-7 Bryan wrote:
>>
>>> Hi! I might be able to make it, schedule permitting. Sounds fun!
>>>
>>> Bryan Edgar 
>>> Valley Village
>>>
>>> On Monday, April 24, 2023 at 9:18:43 PM UTC-7 Tony Lockhart wrote:
>>>
 Count me in. 

 I'm in South Pasadena (orange Hillborne bought in 2009). Haven't 
 browsed this forum in a few years, but decided to check in because I 
 wanted 
 to go on a group ride. Oddly enough, I saw a parked Atlantis at the 626 
 Golden Streets event yesterday. Seems like the perfect time to meet up 
 with 
 some other folks, especially since some of the newer Rivs look drastically 
 different.

 Cheers,
 Tony

 On Monday, April 24, 2023 at 11:08:22 AM UTC-7 bunny...@gmail.com 
 wrote:

> Hey all!
> I will be out of the country for about two weeks in MAY, but would 
> love to join if I am in town. By no means should the scheduling be done 
> around my availability.
>
> Cheers!
> Ben
>
> On Monday, April 24, 2023 at 10:34:17 AM UTC-7 Keith P. wrote:
>
>> I remember Ben/bunnyadrian planning a local ride last year.
>> Has he seen this yet?
>>
>> On Monday, April 24, 2023 at 10:17:19 AM UTC-7 Ted Durant wrote:
>>
>>> On Sunday, April 23, 2023 at 4:40:12 PM UTC-5 Houston Wilson wrote:
>>>
>>> Depending on where most folks are located, I think it could be cool 
>>> to do the Will Rogers inspiration loop in the Western Santa Monica's or 
>>> a 
>>> Griffith Park/Hollywood Sign moment. Regardless, it'd be a chill pace 
>>> with 
>>> a cafe stop or two thrown in. 
>>>
>>> I don't think I'm going to make it out that way in May. In fact, my 
>>> LA daughter is planning to come here for a week. I'll watch the thread 
>>> with 
>>> interest, though. As for the route ... I can't imagine Griffith 
>>> Park/Hollywood Sign being a very "chill" ride - that's a lot of 
>>> climbing! 
>>> But it's beautiful and fun.
>>>
>>> Ted Durant
>>> Milwaukee, WI (and occasionally Alhambra, CA) 
>>>
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[RBW] Re: Homer Hilsen: Braking performance

[Randy Spencer]

I have a sidepull Sam with Tektro r559s and koolstop pads. I weigh around 
270 lbs and live in a hilly, wet area and never have had any issues with 
stopping silently and smoothly. I keep considering swapping brakes, but 
have no reason to. I will say, make sure the pads have a decent amount of 
space from the rim for increased mechanical advantage.
On Wednesday, April 26, 2023 at 7:29:27 AM UTC-7 Hoch in ut wrote:

> Thanks all. Sounds like the reviews are mixed. I’m also assuming the 
> reviews correlate to individual bike set ups and terrain. Some bikes (ie 
> Bleriot) probably don’t stretch the pass all the way down the slot to give 
> better leverage than another bike with a taller fork necessitating pads to 
> be maxed out on the arms, thereby decreasing performance. Maybe brakes like 
> Paul’s mitigates that a bit. 
>
> I have caliper brakes on my road race bike and love the simplicity and 
> ease of adjustment. Braking is excellent as well. But they’re short reach 
> brakes that barely clear 27’s. 
>
> On Wednesday, April 26, 2023 at 8:05:03 AM UTC-6 Ted Durant wrote:
>
>> On Wednesday, April 26, 2023 at 3:27:52 AM UTC-5 Hoch in ut wrote:
>>
>> Those of you with Homers, how have you liked or disliked the brakes? Do 
>> the 559’s give you adequate performance to descend with confidence? One 
>> thing I do like about caliper brakes are how easy they are to set up and 
>> adjust. 
>>
>>
>> I know lots of people haven't been fully happy with the long reach dual 
>> pivots, but I had them on my proto-Bleriot and had no trouble with them at 
>> all. I did some pretty steep hills in Washington, California, and Ireland 
>> and never felt lacking for braking power. I used Kool Stop dual-compound 
>> pads on mine, and AGC (Aero Gran Compe) brake levers. It's worth mentioning 
>> that I am super light and never had more than a stuffed handlebar bag on 
>> the bike. 
>>
>> Ted Durant
>> Milwaukee, WI USA
>>
>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: Los Angeles Riv Ride

[isaac ramos]

Im in! I never took that ride Houston mentions but sounds fun. Weekend 
mornings? Mid week call in sick to work?
Also Cub House in San Marino is having a big bike party on Sunday May 21 if 
Rivendell riders wanted to meet there and ride out on a Pasadena loop. I 
plan to go to this, got some good parts last year at the flea.

On Tuesday, April 25, 2023 at 7:24:40 AM UTC-7 Bryan wrote:

> Hi! I might be able to make it, schedule permitting. Sounds fun!
>
> Bryan Edgar 
> Valley Village
>
> On Monday, April 24, 2023 at 9:18:43 PM UTC-7 Tony Lockhart wrote:
>
>> Count me in. 
>>
>> I'm in South Pasadena (orange Hillborne bought in 2009). Haven't browsed 
>> this forum in a few years, but decided to check in because I wanted to go 
>> on a group ride. Oddly enough, I saw a parked Atlantis at the 626 Golden 
>> Streets event yesterday. Seems like the perfect time to meet up with some 
>> other folks, especially since some of the newer Rivs look drastically 
>> different.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Tony
>>
>> On Monday, April 24, 2023 at 11:08:22 AM UTC-7 bunny...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> Hey all!
>>> I will be out of the country for about two weeks in MAY, but would love 
>>> to join if I am in town. By no means should the scheduling be done around 
>>> my availability.
>>>
>>> Cheers!
>>> Ben
>>>
>>> On Monday, April 24, 2023 at 10:34:17 AM UTC-7 Keith P. wrote:
>>>
 I remember Ben/bunnyadrian planning a local ride last year.
 Has he seen this yet?

 On Monday, April 24, 2023 at 10:17:19 AM UTC-7 Ted Durant wrote:

> On Sunday, April 23, 2023 at 4:40:12 PM UTC-5 Houston Wilson wrote:
>
> Depending on where most folks are located, I think it could be cool to 
> do the Will Rogers inspiration loop in the Western Santa Monica's or a 
> Griffith Park/Hollywood Sign moment. Regardless, it'd be a chill pace 
> with 
> a cafe stop or two thrown in. 
>
> I don't think I'm going to make it out that way in May. In fact, my LA 
> daughter is planning to come here for a week. I'll watch the thread with 
> interest, though. As for the route ... I can't imagine Griffith 
> Park/Hollywood Sign being a very "chill" ride - that's a lot of climbing! 
> But it's beautiful and fun.
>
> Ted Durant
> Milwaukee, WI (and occasionally Alhambra, CA) 
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Re: [RBW] Re: WTB: 51cm Sam Hillborne in Sage/Blue

[Colin P]

good lookin out! I got one of the new colors in 51

On Mon, Apr 24, 2023 at 12:44 PM Matthew Williams <
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> Hi Colin, if you're still looking, here's a 48...
>
>
> https://sfbay.craigslist.org/sby/bik/d/san-jose-48cm-rivendell-sam-hillborne/7613752659.html
>
> On Friday, October 28, 2022 at 8:10:26 AM UTC-7 Colin wrote:
>
>> Hello! Looking to buy a 51cm Sam Hillborne frame or complete in
>> sage/light blue if anyone has one out there :)
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Re: [RBW] Introducing the Charlie H Gallop Protovelo

[Piaw Na]

I had no idea Sams ever came in a caliper brake version. No way am I taking 
my 320 pound triplet with 2 kids down the kind of dirt descents I'd take 
the single bike. But I have descended 20%+ grades on the triplet with mid 
reach calipers. But yeah, with that kind of weight I'd skid both wheels 
since the triplet never endos. (And yes, I've successfully recovered from 
skidding front wheels on tandems) Having said that mountain biking is the 
one application where I like disc brakes. My low end hydraulics squeal like 
a stuck pig but they've proven less maintenance hassle than Paul's Neo 
Retros or other cantilevers. 

On Wednesday, April 26, 2023 at 9:52:23 AM UTC-7 Pancake wrote:

> The brake debate! Here's where my Sam's r559 brakes couldn't keep up with 
> my size (too heavy, 250+ then) and the gravel/dirt downhill grade (-26.1 
> degrees) on our way to climb the fire trails of Mt. Diablo:
> [image: Crystal Ranch drop in Lime Ridge Open Space.jpg]
> This steep segment is called "Crystal Ridge drop in" and there was a lot 
> of drop! My friend (who snagged the Sam for me when it was listed on the 
> Blahg) on his Homer and me on the sidepull Sam. We knew we were underbiking 
> by a bit as a dozen teens on full suspension carbon bikes were flying 
> around doing wheelies and looking at us like we must be lost in the Lime 
> Ridge open space .
> The r559 brakes (salmon yokozuna pads) pulled by TRP levers were *just 
> *strong enough 
> (I was pulling *hard*) to *nearly* lock the tires up in this situation. 
> Never felt so close to the edge of the braking capacity before. I would 
> have either lost traction on the tires and fallen if they locked up, or not 
> been able to slow enough and fallen if I needed to turn even a little on 
> the very steep grade. At some point I simply had to release a bit of my 
> death grip on the levers and got lucky that I could ride it out to the end. 
> My fingers were tired after that and my heart was racing. Thrilling to be 
> honest! 
> But on my Charlie with v-brakes (DXR brake arms, Avid FR-5 brake levers, 
> koolstop e-brake gray compound pads) I'm confident I would have had better 
> modulated and stronger braking power with nearly all the same other 
> components as I've swapped them between these two bikes (including the 
> Schwalbe G-one Allround 700x45mm tires). 
>
> This reminds me that I want to put canti posts on my Cheviot! Though as a 
> commuter the r559 brakes are plenty strong, sometimes I just want to take 
> it somewhere steep ... or stop right away in the rain when a drive turns 
> right in front of me without signaling. The main reason I haven't yet is 
> that I wonder if the $200-300 in welding costs would be better saved to 
> spend on a Platypus ... in silver apparently? ... someday. 
>
> The Sam and the Charlie do cross over into each other's territory - that's 
> why I'll be selling the Sam soon even though that double top tube in 56cm 
> frame is something I'll never find again. A testament to the Gallop's speed 
> and stopping power!
>
> Abe
> On Tuesday, April 25, 2023 at 10:23:24 AM UTC-7 Jason Fuller wrote:
>
>> Phew, heated brake debate! There isn't much else to talk about with the 
>> Charlie since we have no recent news, so it's a good use of this thread 
>> perhaps. 
>>
>> I should clarify: I don't mind side-pull/caliper brakes from a 
>> performance standpoint, although the longer reach models required on this 
>> bike are not as good as medium and short reach models. For me it was the 
>> limitations that caliper brakes put on tire & fender clearance that is 
>> unfortunate. But the CHG is meant to be a road and light gravel bike so 
>> fitting even 38mm tires with fenders is fine in reality. I'm also using 
>> this bike in rain and snow so I wanted the extra power of V's as well as 
>> the extra fender clearance for knobby winter tires. But those are beyond 
>> the typical use-cases for this bike. 
>>
>> I totally see the caliper-lover's point of view on this - there are a lot 
>> more canti stud Rivs than caliper Rivs these days. No doubt calipers look a 
>> little sleeker on a roadish bike too. Maybe as Scott suggests we'll see a 
>> "middle ground" swoop tube model in the future between the CHG and the 
>> Hillibikes. Wait ... that's basically the Platypus. Yeah, that's further 
>> support that the CHG probably should be caliper brake. I concede. 
>>
>> On Tuesday, 25 April 2023 at 10:09:07 UTC-7 Eric Daume wrote:
>>
>>> In my experience, sidepulls are great as long as you only ride in the 
>>> dry and don’t plan on any emergency stops. 
>>>
>>> Eric
>>> Not a caliper fan
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, April 25, 2023, Johnny Alien  wrote:
>>>
 I have zero issues with the effectiveness of sidepulls. I used them for 
 years and years. I just think that the cantiposts gives you a lot more 
 options for brakes (cant's, v, or mini-v) AND allow for using larger tires.

 On Tuesday, April 25, 2023 at 11:35:31 AM UTC-4 

[RBW] Re: Seeking Velocity Synergy Rim

[Saturday Mark]

In case your interested, I have a new Synergy (symmetric)650b laced to a 
Phil Wood FW style hub (130mm). Riv Rich Built wheel. Will sell for price 
of hub and rim only ($400)

On Wednesday, April 26, 2023 at 11:09:19 AM UTC-6 tob...@gmail.com wrote:

> I just picked up a set of these and only need one. I sent you a message.
>
> On Wednesday, April 26, 2023 at 5:29:24 AM UTC-7 mhec...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> I have damaged my rear 650b /32H OC rim and need to replace it.  I am 
>> hoping to find the exact replacement, to reuse the spokes, but they seem to 
>> be out of production.  If anyone has one sitting around unused I would like 
>> to have it.
>>
>> Michael
>>
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[RBW] Re: Seeking Velocity Synergy Rim

[Jacob t]

I just picked up a set of these and only need one. I sent you a message.

On Wednesday, April 26, 2023 at 5:29:24 AM UTC-7 mhec...@gmail.com wrote:

> I have damaged my rear 650b /32H OC rim and need to replace it.  I am 
> hoping to find the exact replacement, to reuse the spokes, but they seem to 
> be out of production.  If anyone has one sitting around unused I would like 
> to have it.
>
> Michael
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Re: [RBW] Re: Los Angeles Riv Ride

[Chris Buzzini]

Great idea. I'll do my best to join as well. Looking forward to it. 
On Tuesday, April 25, 2023 at 9:00:35 PM UTC-7 Tony Lockhart wrote:

> I can make it on the 13th or 27th. Also, I teach for a living so the 
> schedule's wide open during the summer.
>
> On Tuesday, April 25, 2023 at 10:21:18 AM UTC-7 Keith P. wrote:
>
>> I am available on the 13th, but might be flexible on the 20th
>>
>> k.
>>
>> On Apr 25, 2023, at 9:35 AM, Brian Cunningham  
>> wrote:
>>
>> Of those 3 dates, I’m only available on the 27th, but my tricky schedule 
>> is not everyone else’s problem. I’ll join you if that ends up being the 
>> best date for all parties involved.
>>
>>
>> Brian 
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Apr 25, 2023, at 8:10 AM, Houston Wilson  wrote:
>>
>> Yay, I'm loving hearing from y'all!
>>
>> 1. *Anyone have a preference for May 13th, 20th, or 27th?*
>>
>> 2. Regarding the route, it seems like most folks are out east, so 
>> Griffith seems like the best option. 
>>
>> Ted D.--point taken about Griffith + Hollywood sign not being very chill. 
>> So, probably best to just stick to griffith, but if anyone wants to ride to 
>> the Hollywood sign after, I'd be super down! 
>>
>> So, I'm thinking meet by the Greek and do a little loop up to Vista del 
>> Valle and around to the Observatory. This would be about 8 mi with ~1000 
>> ft. of elevation. *I don't ride in griffith a ton, so if anyone has 
>> route suggestions/food spots to hit up before/after...please share haha! *
>>
>> On Tuesday, April 25, 2023 at 7:24:40 AM UTC-7 Bryan wrote:
>>
>>> Hi! I might be able to make it, schedule permitting. Sounds fun!
>>>
>>> Bryan Edgar 
>>> Valley Village
>>>
>>> On Monday, April 24, 2023 at 9:18:43 PM UTC-7 Tony Lockhart wrote:
>>>
 Count me in. 

 I'm in South Pasadena (orange Hillborne bought in 2009). Haven't 
 browsed this forum in a few years, but decided to check in because I 
 wanted 
 to go on a group ride. Oddly enough, I saw a parked Atlantis at the 626 
 Golden Streets event yesterday. Seems like the perfect time to meet up 
 with 
 some other folks, especially since some of the newer Rivs look drastically 
 different.

 Cheers,
 Tony

 On Monday, April 24, 2023 at 11:08:22 AM UTC-7 bunny...@gmail.com 
 wrote:

> Hey all!
> I will be out of the country for about two weeks in MAY, but would 
> love to join if I am in town. By no means should the scheduling be done 
> around my availability.
>
> Cheers!
> Ben
>
> On Monday, April 24, 2023 at 10:34:17 AM UTC-7 Keith P. wrote:
>
>> I remember Ben/bunnyadrian planning a local ride last year.
>> Has he seen this yet?
>>
>> On Monday, April 24, 2023 at 10:17:19 AM UTC-7 Ted Durant wrote:
>>
>>> On Sunday, April 23, 2023 at 4:40:12 PM UTC-5 Houston Wilson wrote:
>>>
>>> Depending on where most folks are located, I think it could be cool 
>>> to do the Will Rogers inspiration loop in the Western Santa Monica's or 
>>> a 
>>> Griffith Park/Hollywood Sign moment. Regardless, it'd be a chill pace 
>>> with 
>>> a cafe stop or two thrown in. 
>>>
>>> I don't think I'm going to make it out that way in May. In fact, my 
>>> LA daughter is planning to come here for a week. I'll watch the thread 
>>> with 
>>> interest, though. As for the route ... I can't imagine Griffith 
>>> Park/Hollywood Sign being a very "chill" ride - that's a lot of 
>>> climbing! 
>>> But it's beautiful and fun.
>>>
>>> Ted Durant
>>> Milwaukee, WI (and occasionally Alhambra, CA) 
>>>
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Re: [RBW] Craigslist, etc 2023

['Eric Norris' via RBW Owners Bunch]

Yeah, but this bike is in a city where a condo costs $35-million.

--Eric Norris
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> On Apr 26, 2023, at 8:23 AM, Ryan  wrote:
> 
> That's a ridiculous price...parts are nice but nothing special...someone's 
> cashing in on the Rivendell brand IMO. Frame is $2000. Is the part spec worth 
> $3500?
> 
> On Wednesday, April 26, 2023 at 8:55:18 AM UTC-5 Justin Kennedy wrote:
>> Gus, 54cm
>> $5,500
>> Brooklyn, NY
>> https://newyork.craigslist.org/brk/bik/d/brooklyn-rivendell-bicycle-works-gus/7613498712.html
>> 
>> (it's tricked out, but wowza that price!)
>> 
>> On Monday, April 24, 2023 at 11:09:26 AM UTC-4 JAS wrote:
>>> Roadini, 61cm
>>> $2400, Orange!
>>> Seattle, WA
>>> https://seattle.craigslist.org/see/bik/d/seattle-large-road-bike-rivendell/7611983345.html
>>> 
>>> Romulus, 24"
>>> $850
>>> Bellingham, WA
>>> https://bellingham.craigslist.org/bik/d/bellingham-rivendell-romulus/7613561566.html
>>> 
>>> Legolas, 59cm
>>> $3400
>>> Portland, OR area
>>> https://portland.craigslist.org/mlt/bik/d/portland-rivendell-legolas-59cm/7612121082.html
>>> 
>>> Atlantis, 61cm
>>> $2500
>>> Port Townsend, WA
>>> https://olympic.craigslist.org/bik/d/nordland-rivendell-atlantis-61cm/7606421089.html
>>> 
>>> Appaloosa, 56cm
>>> $2000
>>> Portland, OR
>>> https://portland.craigslist.org/mlt/bik/d/portland-rivendell-joe-appaloosa/7610380104.html
> 
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[RBW] Re: Homer Hilsen: Braking performance

[Piaw Na]

You may wish to consider the Shimano BC-9000 polymer coated cable set 
(https://amzn.to/420Hye1). I have them on my Roadini with the Tektro 559s 
and cannot tell the difference between the long reach calipers and the 
medium reach on my other bike --- and I take my Roadini down trails other 
people take MTBs on. They're kinda pricey, but brake cables seem to last 
forever.

On Wednesday, April 26, 2023 at 7:29:27 AM UTC-7 Hoch in ut wrote:

> Thanks all. Sounds like the reviews are mixed. I’m also assuming the 
> reviews correlate to individual bike set ups and terrain. Some bikes (ie 
> Bleriot) probably don’t stretch the pass all the way down the slot to give 
> better leverage than another bike with a taller fork necessitating pads to 
> be maxed out on the arms, thereby decreasing performance. Maybe brakes like 
> Paul’s mitigates that a bit. 
>
> I have caliper brakes on my road race bike and love the simplicity and 
> ease of adjustment. Braking is excellent as well. But they’re short reach 
> brakes that barely clear 27’s. 
>
> On Wednesday, April 26, 2023 at 8:05:03 AM UTC-6 Ted Durant wrote:
>
>> On Wednesday, April 26, 2023 at 3:27:52 AM UTC-5 Hoch in ut wrote:
>>
>> Those of you with Homers, how have you liked or disliked the brakes? Do 
>> the 559’s give you adequate performance to descend with confidence? One 
>> thing I do like about caliper brakes are how easy they are to set up and 
>> adjust. 
>>
>>
>> I know lots of people haven't been fully happy with the long reach dual 
>> pivots, but I had them on my proto-Bleriot and had no trouble with them at 
>> all. I did some pretty steep hills in Washington, California, and Ireland 
>> and never felt lacking for braking power. I used Kool Stop dual-compound 
>> pads on mine, and AGC (Aero Gran Compe) brake levers. It's worth mentioning 
>> that I am super light and never had more than a stuffed handlebar bag on 
>> the bike. 
>>
>> Ted Durant
>> Milwaukee, WI USA
>>
>>
>>

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Re: [RBW] Rivendell paint color repetition: Your thoughts

[DavidP]

I guess I've viewed them more as Rivendell colors than as being associated 
with a specific frame - well, except for Atlantis green.

For as long as I've followed Rivendell, at some points I lapsed on being 
aware of exactly what the differences in the various models were (and still 
don't have as complete a historical picture as many here - though Eric's 
history threads help). That said the colors have been part of what make 
them identifiable as Riv bikes to me. Also the impression that "fancier" 
bikes get "fancier" (more sophisticated?) colors.

-Dave

On Tuesday, April 25, 2023 at 9:23:26 AM UTC-4 eric...@gmail.com wrote:

> Jason and Junes — I totally agree about the inspired color choices and the 
> amount of time they put into finding good colors. 
>
> Jason — I agree about retiring colors every few years. 
>
> Junes — You raise some good points and you actually get at something I've 
> had a hard time putting my finger on: brand confusion. Like you, I made 
> strong color and frame associations. Mermaid platypus, got it! That bike 
> was brand new, everyone got crazy excited about it, color is locked in to 
> my brain. And now the color is on all sorts of bikes. Including my 
> Appaloosa :) 
>
> On Monday, April 24, 2023 at 9:01:58 PM UTC-4 Ryan wrote:
>
>> " an ocean of charcoal, slate, and black bikes"just  depressing. But 
>> maybe the right color for a beater you lock up downtown in the hopes that 
>> it'll still be there. Like I say, just depressing.
>>
>> Wasn't it Ford who said " you can have any color you want as long as it's 
>> black"?
>>
>> On Monday, April 24, 2023 at 6:40:47 PM UTC-5 J J wrote:
>>
>>> In an ocean of charcoal, slate, and black bikes, I just appreciate the 
>>> wide range of colors Rivendell puts on their bikes. 
>>>
>>> However, I have what I think is a minority opinion: I’m about 75 percent 
>>> in favor of no more than two specific colors for specific models (**with 
>>> exceptions for custom paint jobs, which are at the buyer’s discretion, with 
>>> Riv’s final approval of course**). The *production* colors become part 
>>> of a particular model's “brand" or visual identity. This is important.
>>>
>>> For example, it’s hard to imagine Atlantis production models in any 
>>> color other than the Atlantis blue/green… even though there are Atlantises 
>>> painted in lovely one-off colors. It would be odd if any other production 
>>> model were painted in the Atlantis color. The Atlantis geometry has changed 
>>> tremendously over the years. You might even say that the Atlantis 
>>> green/blue *is itself* a huge part of the Atlantis brand because the color 
>>> has been a constant through the various Atlantis permutations.
>>>
>>> Another example: I like that Hunqs came in two color schemes: the early 
>>> runs were grey and kidney bean red, and the later runs were green. Now 
>>> Joe’s fantastic custom was inspired by the grey and red Hunq scheme. But 
>>> it’s a custom, a one-off, slightly different, and ultimately it was Joe’s 
>>> prerogative. He made a very tasteful choice. 
>>>
>>> I think the Platypus was the first model in mermaid (?). Anyway, when I 
>>> see mermaid I think Platypus, not Gus or anything else. I don’t get why any 
>>> model other than the Platypus should be in mermaid! It’s a strong brand 
>>> association. The lovely  sparkly raspberry of Leah’s Platypus, being a 
>>> unique one off, does not weaken the Platypus mermaid brand because 
>>> raspberry was not a production color.
>>>
>>> And as much as I like the lovely olive green as a color, the number of 
>>> models in this green suggests brand confusion and inconsistency. 
>>>
>>> I do think that variations of *similar* colors across model is fine. 
>>> They should be different enough not to confuse them, though.  
>>>
>>> Like I said, my opinion is probably in the small minority.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Apr 24, 2023, at 6:48 PM, Wyatt  wrote:
>>>
>>> Have to say whatever they're doing with the paint is right. Next Riv I 
>>> get will be 50% because I want a frame with that mermaid green.
>>>
>>> On Monday, April 24, 2023 at 5:29:55 PM UTC-5 Jason Fuller wrote:
>>>
 Wait, the Platys are coming in silver soon? Crap, I guess good thing I 
 just got my Charlie back or I'd be dropping a bunch of money for that. 

 I'm late to the conversation, but my read is that Grant & co spend a 
 lot more time on color selection than is business-smart to do so, because 
 they want it to be exactly right - so when they get one that passes a 
 vote, 
 they hang onto it. As for my opinion about it, I like how they do it 
 because if you love a certain color, you just have to be patient for it to 
 come to your preferred model - or, conversely, if you like a model but not 
 the available colors, you'll hopefully be accommodated on the next batch.  
 I do think that colors should be retired every few years for new ones 
 though! 

 On Monday, 24 April 2023 at 

[RBW] Re: FS: Craigslist, etc 2023

[Ryan]

That's a ridiculous price...parts are nice but nothing special...someone's 
cashing in on the Rivendell brand IMO. Frame is $2000. Is the part spec 
worth $3500?

On Wednesday, April 26, 2023 at 8:55:18 AM UTC-5 Justin Kennedy wrote:

> Gus, 54cm
> $5,500
> Brooklyn, NY
>
> https://newyork.craigslist.org/brk/bik/d/brooklyn-rivendell-bicycle-works-gus/7613498712.html
>
> (it's tricked out, but wowza that price!)
>
> On Monday, April 24, 2023 at 11:09:26 AM UTC-4 JAS wrote:
>
>> Roadini, 61cm
>> $2400, Orange!
>> Seattle, WA
>>
>> https://seattle.craigslist.org/see/bik/d/seattle-large-road-bike-rivendell/7611983345.html
>>
>> Romulus, 24"
>> $850
>> Bellingham, WA
>>
>> https://bellingham.craigslist.org/bik/d/bellingham-rivendell-romulus/7613561566.html
>>
>> Legolas, 59cm
>> $3400
>> Portland, OR area
>>
>> https://portland.craigslist.org/mlt/bik/d/portland-rivendell-legolas-59cm/7612121082.html
>>
>> Atlantis, 61cm
>> $2500
>> Port Townsend, WA
>>
>> https://olympic.craigslist.org/bik/d/nordland-rivendell-atlantis-61cm/7606421089.html
>>
>> Appaloosa, 56cm
>> $2000
>> Portland, OR
>>
>> https://portland.craigslist.org/mlt/bik/d/portland-rivendell-joe-appaloosa/7610380104.html
>>
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Re: [RBW] FS: Craigslist, etc 2023

[Eric Daume]

Yeah, it’s not 2021 anymore. The used bike market is pretty much
collapsing.

On Wednesday, April 26, 2023, Joe Bernard  wrote:

> They want every last dime they put in it after spending all that money and
> not riding. Well good luck!*
>
> *For full pop I'd get a frame from Riv and build it myself.
>
> On Wednesday, April 26, 2023 at 6:55:18 AM UTC-7 Justin Kennedy wrote:
>
>> Gus, 54cm
>> $5,500
>> Brooklyn, NY
>> https://newyork.craigslist.org/brk/bik/d/brooklyn-
>> rivendell-bicycle-works-gus/7613498712.html
>>
>> (it's tricked out, but wowza that price!)
>>
>> On Monday, April 24, 2023 at 11:09:26 AM UTC-4 JAS wrote:
>>
>>> Roadini, 61cm
>>> $2400, Orange!
>>> Seattle, WA
>>> https://seattle.craigslist.org/see/bik/d/seattle-large-
>>> road-bike-rivendell/7611983345.html
>>>
>>> Romulus, 24"
>>> $850
>>> Bellingham, WA
>>> https://bellingham.craigslist.org/bik/d/bellingham-
>>> rivendell-romulus/7613561566.html
>>>
>>> Legolas, 59cm
>>> $3400
>>> Portland, OR area
>>> https://portland.craigslist.org/mlt/bik/d/portland-
>>> rivendell-legolas-59cm/7612121082.html
>>>
>>> Atlantis, 61cm
>>> $2500
>>> Port Townsend, WA
>>> https://olympic.craigslist.org/bik/d/nordland-rivendell-
>>> atlantis-61cm/7606421089.html
>>>
>>> Appaloosa, 56cm
>>> $2000
>>> Portland, OR
>>> https://portland.craigslist.org/mlt/bik/d/portland-
>>> rivendell-joe-appaloosa/7610380104.html
>>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: FS: Craigslist, etc 2023

[Joe Bernard]

Also very cool! Dig the Klunker bars. 

On Wednesday, April 26, 2023 at 8:00:14 AM UTC-7 Lucky wrote:

> That’s a cool bike but for (shameless plug) $800 less you can buy my bike: 
>
> [image: 00707_eKrnb9sdxrf_0CI0t2_600x450.jpg]
>
> Bridgestone MB-4 - bicycles - by owner - bike sale 
> 
> sacramento.craigslist.org 
> 
>
> 
>
>
> On Apr 26, 2023, at 07:49, Joe Bernard  wrote:
>
> Now for something completely different. This flamed Bridgestone would 
> rule amongst all the Harleys and lifted pickups here in Lake County, CA. 
> Pricey but I'm tempted! 
>
>
>
> https://sfbay.craigslist.org/nby/bik/d/napa-custom-bridgestone-mb/7613966006.html
>
> On Monday, April 24, 2023 at 8:09:26 AM UTC-7 JAS wrote:
>
>> Roadini, 61cm
>> $2400, Orange!
>> Seattle, WA
>>
>> https://seattle.craigslist.org/see/bik/d/seattle-large-road-bike-rivendell/7611983345.html
>>
>> Romulus, 24"
>> $850
>> Bellingham, WA
>>
>> https://bellingham.craigslist.org/bik/d/bellingham-rivendell-romulus/7613561566.html
>>
>> Legolas, 59cm
>> $3400
>> Portland, OR area
>>
>> https://portland.craigslist.org/mlt/bik/d/portland-rivendell-legolas-59cm/7612121082.html
>>
>> Atlantis, 61cm
>> $2500
>> Port Townsend, WA
>>
>> https://olympic.craigslist.org/bik/d/nordland-rivendell-atlantis-61cm/7606421089.html
>>
>> Appaloosa, 56cm
>> $2000
>> Portland, OR
>>
>> https://portland.craigslist.org/mlt/bik/d/portland-rivendell-joe-appaloosa/7610380104.html
>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: FS: Craigslist, etc 2023

[luckyturnip]

That’s a cool bike but for (shameless plug) $800 less you can buy my bike: Bridgestone MB-4 - bicycles - by owner - bike salesacramento.craigslist.orgOn Apr 26, 2023, at 07:49, Joe Bernard  wrote:Now for something completely different. This flamed Bridgestone would rule amongst all the Harleys and lifted pickups here in Lake County, CA. Pricey but I'm tempted! https://sfbay.craigslist.org/nby/bik/d/napa-custom-bridgestone-mb/7613966006.htmlOn Monday, April 24, 2023 at 8:09:26 AM UTC-7 JAS wrote:Roadini, 61cm$2400, Orange!Seattle, WAhttps://seattle.craigslist.org/see/bik/d/seattle-large-road-bike-rivendell/7611983345.htmlRomulus, 24"$850Bellingham, WAhttps://bellingham.craigslist.org/bik/d/bellingham-rivendell-romulus/7613561566.htmlLegolas, 59cm$3400Portland, OR areahttps://portland.craigslist.org/mlt/bik/d/portland-rivendell-legolas-59cm/7612121082.htmlAtlantis, 61cm$2500Port Townsend, WAhttps://olympic.craigslist.org/bik/d/nordland-rivendell-atlantis-61cm/7606421089.htmlAppaloosa, 56cm$2000Portland, ORhttps://portland.craigslist.org/mlt/bik/d/portland-rivendell-joe-appaloosa/7610380104.html



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[RBW] FS -take 2 the cleaning continues (650b and RBW -cross posted from Ibob)

[Rich Powers]

I'm making GREAT progress in my purge! Pictures at:
https://goo.gl/photos/7FKym17mpqFnDNFA7
  Shipping/postage included on all items lower US 48). Paypal preferred
this- address. Please get in touch with me off-list w/ questions.

Need several items? Please make me an offer!

Rich in Des Moines

Hugi hub set-silver 32 rear and 28-hole front. It seems to be 8/9/10 speed,
135 mm rear, and scuffs and scratches as pictured. Not for show, but very
usable. Mailed $55mailed

WHEELS- NEW-proceeds go to the local bike co-op to sponsor another
wheel-building course.

650b Velocity Atlas Shimano 105 (130 mm hub width) 8/9/10/11-speed Wheelset
NEW 32-hole Sapim Race DB 2.0-1.8-2.0 silver spokes, Sapim brass secure
lock nipples.  Professionally built, tensioned, and stress relieved.  $375
shipped in the good old USA

Velocity Atlas Shimano Deore700c Wheelset NEW 32-hole Sapim Race DB
2.0-1.8-2.0 silver spokes, brass nipples. “Fix” spoke-prep applied. The
rear hub is a Shimano Deore model (135 mm width) 8, 9, 10 Speed cassette
compatible. The front hub is a Shimano 400-both hubs are black.
Professionally built, tensioned, and stress relieved. $325 shipped in the
good old USA

Shifters and such
Shimano 8-speed index RIGHT trigger shifter- SL-M315-8r Altus-new in box
-NEW in box $ 18 mailed

Shimano 6-speed index/friction levers. The right one works well. The left
is also supposed to have an index option and does not seem to index-
friction is fine.  $9 mailed

Suntour index/friction thumb shifters 6-speed mtb shifters- $12 mailed

Chainrings
Wickwerks 38 tooth -black ring 110 mm BCD 4 ARM model! It looks unused $25
mailed.
Sugino 45 Tooth  ring 110 MM silver ring $23 mailed 5 arm
Sugino 50 Tooth  ring 110 MM silver ring $23 mailed 5 arm
Sugino 28 T small ring 74 MM silver ring $10 mailed A few more miles on
this one than the one below. Labeled #2 in photo
Sugino 28 T small ring 74 MM silver ring $12 mailed

Other random and possibly interesting items

7-speed cassette -Shimano 11-28 or so-I believe. It is discolored from
soaking in cleaning solution too long. Lower miles. $15 mailed.

Bar-end brake lever extensions-black  $12 mailed. Do you remember these?
Extends the lever to brake while riding on the bar-ends.

Vintage Huret shifter covers. They seem to be rather stiff. Not sure you
could coax them onto a shifter. A neat piece of history if you like that
sort of thing. Say $8 mailed?

Niterider Helmet mount with an extension cable. This works with older
Minewt models mounted with big O rings. May work for some others? $5 mailed

Lynsey 34.9 seat collar $12 mailed

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[RBW] Re: FS: Craigslist, etc 2023

[Joe Bernard]

Now for something completely different. This flamed Bridgestone would rule 
amongst all the Harleys and lifted pickups here in Lake County, CA. Pricey 
but I'm tempted! 

https://sfbay.craigslist.org/nby/bik/d/napa-custom-bridgestone-mb/7613966006.html

On Monday, April 24, 2023 at 8:09:26 AM UTC-7 JAS wrote:

> Roadini, 61cm
> $2400, Orange!
> Seattle, WA
>
> https://seattle.craigslist.org/see/bik/d/seattle-large-road-bike-rivendell/7611983345.html
>
> Romulus, 24"
> $850
> Bellingham, WA
>
> https://bellingham.craigslist.org/bik/d/bellingham-rivendell-romulus/7613561566.html
>
> Legolas, 59cm
> $3400
> Portland, OR area
>
> https://portland.craigslist.org/mlt/bik/d/portland-rivendell-legolas-59cm/7612121082.html
>
> Atlantis, 61cm
> $2500
> Port Townsend, WA
>
> https://olympic.craigslist.org/bik/d/nordland-rivendell-atlantis-61cm/7606421089.html
>
> Appaloosa, 56cm
> $2000
> Portland, OR
>
> https://portland.craigslist.org/mlt/bik/d/portland-rivendell-joe-appaloosa/7610380104.html
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[RBW] Re: Homer Hilsen: Braking performance

[Hoch in ut]

Thanks all. Sounds like the reviews are mixed. I’m also assuming the 
reviews correlate to individual bike set ups and terrain. Some bikes (ie 
Bleriot) probably don’t stretch the pass all the way down the slot to give 
better leverage than another bike with a taller fork necessitating pads to 
be maxed out on the arms, thereby decreasing performance. Maybe brakes like 
Paul’s mitigates that a bit. 

I have caliper brakes on my road race bike and love the simplicity and ease 
of adjustment. Braking is excellent as well. But they’re short reach brakes 
that barely clear 27’s. 

On Wednesday, April 26, 2023 at 8:05:03 AM UTC-6 Ted Durant wrote:

> On Wednesday, April 26, 2023 at 3:27:52 AM UTC-5 Hoch in ut wrote:
>
> Those of you with Homers, how have you liked or disliked the brakes? Do 
> the 559’s give you adequate performance to descend with confidence? One 
> thing I do like about caliper brakes are how easy they are to set up and 
> adjust. 
>
>
> I know lots of people haven't been fully happy with the long reach dual 
> pivots, but I had them on my proto-Bleriot and had no trouble with them at 
> all. I did some pretty steep hills in Washington, California, and Ireland 
> and never felt lacking for braking power. I used Kool Stop dual-compound 
> pads on mine, and AGC (Aero Gran Compe) brake levers. It's worth mentioning 
> that I am super light and never had more than a stuffed handlebar bag on 
> the bike. 
>
> Ted Durant
> Milwaukee, WI USA
>
>
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[RBW] Re: FS: Craigslist, etc 2023

[Joe Bernard]

They want every last dime they put in it after spending all that money and 
not riding. Well good luck!*

*For full pop I'd get a frame from Riv and build it myself. 

On Wednesday, April 26, 2023 at 6:55:18 AM UTC-7 Justin Kennedy wrote:

> Gus, 54cm
> $5,500
> Brooklyn, NY
>
> https://newyork.craigslist.org/brk/bik/d/brooklyn-rivendell-bicycle-works-gus/7613498712.html
>
> (it's tricked out, but wowza that price!)
>
> On Monday, April 24, 2023 at 11:09:26 AM UTC-4 JAS wrote:
>
>> Roadini, 61cm
>> $2400, Orange!
>> Seattle, WA
>>
>> https://seattle.craigslist.org/see/bik/d/seattle-large-road-bike-rivendell/7611983345.html
>>
>> Romulus, 24"
>> $850
>> Bellingham, WA
>>
>> https://bellingham.craigslist.org/bik/d/bellingham-rivendell-romulus/7613561566.html
>>
>> Legolas, 59cm
>> $3400
>> Portland, OR area
>>
>> https://portland.craigslist.org/mlt/bik/d/portland-rivendell-legolas-59cm/7612121082.html
>>
>> Atlantis, 61cm
>> $2500
>> Port Townsend, WA
>>
>> https://olympic.craigslist.org/bik/d/nordland-rivendell-atlantis-61cm/7606421089.html
>>
>> Appaloosa, 56cm
>> $2000
>> Portland, OR
>>
>> https://portland.craigslist.org/mlt/bik/d/portland-rivendell-joe-appaloosa/7610380104.html
>>
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[RBW] Re: Homer Hilsen: Braking performance

[Ted Durant]

On Wednesday, April 26, 2023 at 3:27:52 AM UTC-5 Hoch in ut wrote:

Those of you with Homers, how have you liked or disliked the brakes? Do the 
559’s give you adequate performance to descend with confidence? One thing I 
do like about caliper brakes are how easy they are to set up and adjust. 


I know lots of people haven't been fully happy with the long reach dual 
pivots, but I had them on my proto-Bleriot and had no trouble with them at 
all. I did some pretty steep hills in Washington, California, and Ireland 
and never felt lacking for braking power. I used Kool Stop dual-compound 
pads on mine, and AGC (Aero Gran Compe) brake levers. It's worth mentioning 
that I am super light and never had more than a stuffed handlebar bag on 
the bike. 

Ted Durant
Milwaukee, WI USA


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[RBW] Re: FS: Craigslist, etc 2023

[Justin Kennedy]

Gus, 54cm
$5,500
Brooklyn, NY
https://newyork.craigslist.org/brk/bik/d/brooklyn-rivendell-bicycle-works-gus/7613498712.html

(it's tricked out, but wowza that price!)

On Monday, April 24, 2023 at 11:09:26 AM UTC-4 JAS wrote:

> Roadini, 61cm
> $2400, Orange!
> Seattle, WA
>
> https://seattle.craigslist.org/see/bik/d/seattle-large-road-bike-rivendell/7611983345.html
>
> Romulus, 24"
> $850
> Bellingham, WA
>
> https://bellingham.craigslist.org/bik/d/bellingham-rivendell-romulus/7613561566.html
>
> Legolas, 59cm
> $3400
> Portland, OR area
>
> https://portland.craigslist.org/mlt/bik/d/portland-rivendell-legolas-59cm/7612121082.html
>
> Atlantis, 61cm
> $2500
> Port Townsend, WA
>
> https://olympic.craigslist.org/bik/d/nordland-rivendell-atlantis-61cm/7606421089.html
>
> Appaloosa, 56cm
> $2000
> Portland, OR
>
> https://portland.craigslist.org/mlt/bik/d/portland-rivendell-joe-appaloosa/7610380104.html
>

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Re: [RBW] Homer Hilsen: Braking performance

[Shoji Takahashi]

I have a Homer and tried it with 559s. They were ok, but I ride in a fairly 
flat area. I changed to Paul Racers, and they stop much better. 

Good luck!
shoji
Arlington MA

On Wednesday, April 26, 2023 at 7:32:29 AM UTC-4 DavidP wrote:

> Diacompe GC center pulls (nicer than their DC center pulls) and Paul 
> Racers are also an option.
>
> -Dave
>
> On Wednesday, April 26, 2023 at 6:42:41 AM UTC-4 Eric Daume wrote:
>
>> This was just discussed in the Charlie H Gallop proto thread. 
>>
>> Some people like those brakes, some people find them weak. I’m in the 
>> latter group. I wouldn’t commit to such an expensive frame that is limited 
>> to those brakes. My experience with long reach calipers is almost 
>> universally bad, especially in the wet. 
>>
>> Eric
>>
>>
>> On Wednesday, April 26, 2023, Hoch in ut  wrote:
>>
>>> I’m window shopping for the next project and was interested in the 
>>> Homer. Great looking frame. My only concern is the brakes. I live in a 
>>> pretty mountainous area. Meaning plenty of long, fast descents. 
>>>
>>> Those of you with Homers, how have you liked or disliked the brakes? Do 
>>> the 559’s give you adequate performance to descend with confidence? One 
>>> thing I do like about caliper brakes are how easy they are to set up and 
>>> adjust. 
>>> Thanks for any input. 
>>>
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[RBW] Seeking Velocity Synergy Rim

[Michael Hechmer]

I have damaged my rear 650b /32H OC rim and need to replace it.  I am 
hoping to find the exact replacement, to reuse the spokes, but they seem to 
be out of production.  If anyone has one sitting around unused I would like 
to have it.

Michael

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Re: [RBW] Re: Lighter than your Platypus

[DavidP]

Who weighs a Platypus?

-Dave (whose 60cm frame/fork/headset weigh 10lbs)

On Wednesday, April 26, 2023 at 6:23:39 AM UTC-4 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
wrote:

> Well, I don’t see how this is possible since your Matthews isn’t even 
> raspberry.
>
> [image: image0.jpeg]
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Apr 26, 2023, at 4:51 AM, Garth  wrote:
>
> As if any comparison is ever fair  . heeheehee .  The title of 
> your post is hilarious Patrick ;-)  
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Re: [RBW] Homer Hilsen: Braking performance

[DavidP]

Diacompe GC center pulls (nicer than their DC center pulls) and Paul Racers 
are also an option.

-Dave

On Wednesday, April 26, 2023 at 6:42:41 AM UTC-4 Eric Daume wrote:

> This was just discussed in the Charlie H Gallop proto thread. 
>
> Some people like those brakes, some people find them weak. I’m in the 
> latter group. I wouldn’t commit to such an expensive frame that is limited 
> to those brakes. My experience with long reach calipers is almost 
> universally bad, especially in the wet. 
>
> Eric
>
>
> On Wednesday, April 26, 2023, Hoch in ut  wrote:
>
>> I’m window shopping for the next project and was interested in the Homer. 
>> Great looking frame. My only concern is the brakes. I live in a pretty 
>> mountainous area. Meaning plenty of long, fast descents. 
>>
>> Those of you with Homers, how have you liked or disliked the brakes? Do 
>> the 559’s give you adequate performance to descend with confidence? One 
>> thing I do like about caliper brakes are how easy they are to set up and 
>> adjust. 
>> Thanks for any input. 
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Re: [RBW] Homer Hilsen: Braking performance

[Eric Daume]

This was just discussed in the Charlie H Gallop proto thread.

Some people like those brakes, some people find them weak. I’m in the
latter group. I wouldn’t commit to such an expensive frame that is limited
to those brakes. My experience with long reach calipers is almost
universally bad, especially in the wet.

Eric

On Wednesday, April 26, 2023, Hoch in ut  wrote:

> I’m window shopping for the next project and was interested in the Homer.
> Great looking frame. My only concern is the brakes. I live in a pretty
> mountainous area. Meaning plenty of long, fast descents.
>
> Those of you with Homers, how have you liked or disliked the brakes? Do
> the 559’s give you adequate performance to descend with confidence? One
> thing I do like about caliper brakes are how easy they are to set up and
> adjust.
> Thanks for any input.
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Re: [RBW] Re: Lighter than your Platypus

[Garth]

As if any comparison is ever fair  . heeheehee .  The title of your 
post is hilarious Patrick ;-)  


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[RBW] Homer Hilsen: Braking performance

[Hoch in ut]

I’m window shopping for the next project and was interested in the Homer. 
Great looking frame. My only concern is the brakes. I live in a pretty 
mountainous area. Meaning plenty of long, fast descents. 

Those of you with Homers, how have you liked or disliked the brakes? Do the 
559’s give you adequate performance to descend with confidence? One thing I 
do like about caliper brakes are how easy they are to set up and adjust. 
Thanks for any input. 

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