[RBW] Re: Front basket rack recommendations

[Luke Hendrickson]

I love these: Rip Rack from Rat King, Five Rail from Pass & Stow, or the 
34F from Nitto.

On Thursday, September 21, 2023 at 3:26:12 PM UTC-7 Edwin W wrote:

> That Cycles manivelle rack is slick. No zip ties, cool!
>
> Edwin
>
> On Thursday, September 21, 2023 at 11:54:33 AM UTC-5 greenteadrinkers 
> wrote:
>
>> In the latest PLP video, Russ brings to light a nice basket solution from 
>> a company called Manivelle. The Le Porteur version is a little less than 2 
>> lbs, which is kind of amazing for a basket and rack combination. The 
>> standard version seems to work well with a basket bag. Looks like you might 
>> spend under $100 for the Manivelle.
>>
>> https://cyclesmanivelle.com/en/-shop/racks-baskets/
>>
>> On Thursday, September 21, 2023 at 12:19:47 PM UTC-4 ack...@gmail.com 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Just found a screamin deal on a fully built 51 Sam. Now it's time to get 
>>> it kitted out. I love my Pass And Stow for the heavy duty- stuff and 
>>> aesthetically, it's unmatched IMO. Perhaps a bit of overkill as a simple 
>>> basket rack. Would love an RBW51 Nitto rack, but not sure I can justify the 
>>> $288 plus tax. Looking for something simple and elegant and cost-efficient 
>>> for mounting a Wald 139 Hardware-less Basket and a Tunitas 137 Tote. 
>>> If anybody has a well used RBW51 that they would be willing to part 
>>> with, I'd love to hear from you.
>>> Also looking for other options and would love to see what y'all are 
>>> using for your Wald 139 Baskets.
>>> Thanks!
>>> Alex
>>> a c k s f 7 8 gmail
>>>
>>

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Re: [RBW] Re: Single Speed (QB/SO/RU..) Questions

[Bill Lindsay]

Patrick, I'm not sure what you are asking. You've got some kind of single 
speed cassette hub on your Monocog.  What do you want to buy?  Are you 
looking to buy a different cassette body that you will install into your 
existing rear wheel to carry two cogs?  Or are you looking to buy a 
different rear hub?  Or a different rear wheel?  

The easiest thing may be to just run a "normal" geared rear wheel and run 
the needed stack of spacers along with two cogs to get you what you want. 
 I'm running three cogs on a short Capper cassette on one of my 120mm rear 
end bikes, but I don't think your Monocog is a 120mm bike.  I imagine there 
are a number of ways you could run two cogs on your Monocog.  You would 
just need to decide that you are going to do it and start spending.  Given 
that you've been looking to replace the Monocog with a custom, maybe your 
gearing solution should be integrated with your frame choice.  

BL in EC

On Thursday, September 21, 2023 at 4:50:02 PM UTC-7 Patrick Moore wrote:

> Too bad that the DOS fws are disappearing as the Dingle 2X fixed cogs did. 
> But question: My Monocog has a single speed freehub that takes a Shimano 
> HG-spline splined cog. A quick search just now shows Bontrager and DT ss 
> freehub bodies and some made by companies unknown to me, but are these 
> currently and readily available? Did Shimano ever make one?
>
> And: are any of these big enough to squeeze 2 3/32 cogs onto?
>
> Does anyone make 2-speed freehubs/fh bodies? I did not find any.
>
> Patrick Moore, tempted to put a 17/19 Dingle onto his SA ASC threaded 
> driver -- but not worthwhile since the quickest on/off axle retention 
> system with such hubs is wingnuts which are simply too cumbersome for quick 
> roadside stoop-and-change operations.
>
> On Thu, Sep 21, 2023 at 3:11 PM Bill Lindsay  wrote:
>
>> Not that anybody cares, but people reported the 16/19 was/is out of 
>> production.  That was partially true, and now is totally true.  When I 
>> reached out to Mike last month, he secured the last 16/19 that White 
>> Industries ever made.  It arrived today, so now I'm all set.  Eagle eyed 
>> parts buyers should keep your eyes peeled for a 16/19 because they are now 
>> officially 'scarce'.  Roaduno planners may have to make different plans if 
>> they were counting on a 16/19.  The 16/18 and 17/19 are still totally 
>> available.  
>
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: Single Speed (QB/SO/RU..) Questions

[Patrick Moore]

Too bad that the DOS fws are disappearing as the Dingle 2X fixed cogs did.
But question: My Monocog has a single speed freehub that takes a Shimano
HG-spline splined cog. A quick search just now shows Bontrager and DT ss
freehub bodies and some made by companies unknown to me, but are these
currently and readily available? Did Shimano ever make one?

And: are any of these big enough to squeeze 2 3/32 cogs onto?

Does anyone make 2-speed freehubs/fh bodies? I did not find any.

Patrick Moore, tempted to put a 17/19 Dingle onto his SA ASC threaded
driver -- but not worthwhile since the quickest on/off axle retention
system with such hubs is wingnuts which are simply too cumbersome for quick
roadside stoop-and-change operations.

On Thu, Sep 21, 2023 at 3:11 PM Bill Lindsay  wrote:

> Not that anybody cares, but people reported the 16/19 was/is out of
> production.  That was partially true, and now is totally true.  When I
> reached out to Mike last month, he secured the last 16/19 that White
> Industries ever made.  It arrived today, so now I'm all set.  Eagle eyed
> parts buyers should keep your eyes peeled for a 16/19 because they are now
> officially 'scarce'.  Roaduno planners may have to make different plans if
> they were counting on a 16/19.  The 16/18 and 17/19 are still totally
> available.

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[RBW] FS: 50cm Roadini F/F - Dark Gold

[Johnny Alien]

Sadly a family issue with my parents' health has popped up and I won't have 
time or money to do anything bike build related for quite some time. I just 
got this frame and was planning on a fall project but as noted above its 
not happening. This had some parts installed but is pretty much just as it 
came from Rivendell. Never got to a point far enough to get any dings or 
marks or anything. The fork is installed and the kalloy seatpost will of 
course be included. The one thing I did do so far is swap the bottom 
bracket from a 110 to a 113 so it would work better with a triple (or wide 
range triple with a guard). I will include the 110 BB that came with it. 
These cost around $1400 to get shipped to you from Rivendell. I will sell 
this one for $1100 shipped anywhere in the USA. I really hate to do this 
but hopefully someone here can help me out and also get a great looking 
bike.

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[RBW] Re: Front basket rack recommendations

[Edwin W]

That Cycles manivelle rack is slick. No zip ties, cool!

Edwin

On Thursday, September 21, 2023 at 11:54:33 AM UTC-5 greenteadrinkers wrote:

> In the latest PLP video, Russ brings to light a nice basket solution from 
> a company called Manivelle. The Le Porteur version is a little less than 2 
> lbs, which is kind of amazing for a basket and rack combination. The 
> standard version seems to work well with a basket bag. Looks like you might 
> spend under $100 for the Manivelle.
>
> https://cyclesmanivelle.com/en/-shop/racks-baskets/
>
> On Thursday, September 21, 2023 at 12:19:47 PM UTC-4 ack...@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>
>> Just found a screamin deal on a fully built 51 Sam. Now it's time to get 
>> it kitted out. I love my Pass And Stow for the heavy duty- stuff and 
>> aesthetically, it's unmatched IMO. Perhaps a bit of overkill as a simple 
>> basket rack. Would love an RBW51 Nitto rack, but not sure I can justify the 
>> $288 plus tax. Looking for something simple and elegant and cost-efficient 
>> for mounting a Wald 139 Hardware-less Basket and a Tunitas 137 Tote. 
>> If anybody has a well used RBW51 that they would be willing to part with, 
>> I'd love to hear from you.
>> Also looking for other options and would love to see what y'all are using 
>> for your Wald 139 Baskets.
>> Thanks!
>> Alex
>> a c k s f 7 8 gmail
>>
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: Front basket rack recommendations

[Brian Turner]

FWIW, a friend of mine recently picked up a Pelago Rasket, and while Pelago makes very nice, affordable racks, my friend said he was shocked at how incredibly heavy the Rasket was.On Sep 21, 2023, at 5:08 PM, Alex K  wrote:Oh boy. That is a brilliant use of the Tumbleweed rack If only The Sam fork had those mounts on the fork I really really dig that. As far as the Tunitas 137 Basket Tote in the Wald 139 basket, I tried a Tunitas 139 Basket Bag in the 139 basket and it was way too snug, no wiggle room and I really had to jam it in there to get it to feel right. The 137 Basket Tote just fits better. Similar issues with the Sackville ShopSack Large vs. Medium. The large WILL fit, but the medium fits like a glove. Will keep an eye out for the pelagoAlexOn Thursday, September 21, 2023 at 10:28:53 AM UTC-7 DavidP wrote:Hi Alex,Just double checking - but you mention a Wald 139 basket (the larger one) and the Tunitas 137 tote (the one designed for the Wald 137 basket).If you are looking for the larger basket, then the Pelago Rasket may be worth a look. It's another combo basket and front rack and the basket is slightly larger than the Wald 139.-DaveOn Thursday, September 21, 2023 at 1:12:26 PM UTC-4 rmro...@gmail.com wrote:I thought it odd that the basket was a bit larger than a Wald 137. Seems so many nice basket bags are perfectly sized for the 137. I have been very happy mounting my 137 via zip ties to a Tumbleweed “T” rack. The best thing about the Tumbleweed racks is the 3 bolt mounts built in to the support legs. Makes these racks very versatile.Sent from my iPhoneOn Sep 21, 2023, at 12:54 PM, greenteadrinkers  wrote:In the latest PLP video, Russ brings to light a nice basket solution from a company called Manivelle. The Le Porteur version is a little less than 2 lbs, which is kind of amazing for a basket and rack combination. The standard version seems to work well with a basket bag. Looks like you might spend under $100 for the Manivelle.https://cyclesmanivelle.com/en/-shop/racks-baskets/On Thursday, September 21, 2023 at 12:19:47 PM UTC-4 ack...@gmail.com wrote:Just found a screamin deal on a fully built 51 Sam. Now it's time to get it kitted out. I love my Pass And Stow for the heavy duty- stuff and aesthetically, it's unmatched IMO. Perhaps a bit of overkill as a simple basket rack. Would love an RBW51 Nitto rack, but not sure I can justify the $288 plus tax. Looking for something simple and elegant and cost-efficient for mounting a Wald 139 Hardware-less Basket and a Tunitas 137 Tote. If anybody has a well used RBW51 that they would be willing to part with, I'd love to hear from you.Also looking for other options and would love to see what y'all are using for your Wald 139 Baskets.Thanks!Alexa c k s f 7 8 gmail



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Re: [RBW] Re: Front basket rack recommendations

[m f]

Pelago makes great racks that can attach to eyelets or through the axle 
(and then attach a Wald 139). The RBW rack is available through Blue Lug 
(Japan) for appx $100 less than sourcing it here in the states. You will 
pay a little bit for shipping, but it allows you to justify adding a bunch 
of fun Blue Lug stuff to your order

On Thursday, September 21, 2023 at 4:08:22 PM UTC-5 ack...@gmail.com wrote:

> Oh boy. That is a brilliant use of the Tumbleweed rack If only The Sam 
> fork had those mounts on the fork I really really dig that. As far as 
> the Tunitas 137 Basket Tote in the Wald 139 basket, I tried a Tunitas 139 
> Basket Bag in the 139 basket and it was way too snug, no wiggle room and I 
> really had to jam it in there to get it to feel right. The 137 Basket Tote 
> just fits better. Similar issues with the Sackville ShopSack Large vs. 
> Medium. The large WILL fit, but the medium fits like a glove. Will keep an 
> eye out for the pelago
> Alex
>
>
> On Thursday, September 21, 2023 at 10:28:53 AM UTC-7 DavidP wrote:
>
>> Hi Alex,
>>
>> Just double checking - but you mention a Wald 139 basket (the larger one) 
>> and the Tunitas 137 tote (the one designed for the Wald 137 basket).
>>
>> If you are looking for the larger basket, then the Pelago Rasket may be 
>> worth a look. It's another combo basket and front rack and the basket is 
>> slightly larger than the Wald 139.
>>
>> -Dave
>>
>> On Thursday, September 21, 2023 at 1:12:26 PM UTC-4 rmro...@gmail.com 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I thought it odd that the basket was a bit larger than a Wald 137. Seems 
>>> so many nice basket bags are perfectly sized for the 137. I have been very 
>>> happy mounting my 137 via zip ties to a Tumbleweed “T” rack. The best thing 
>>> about the Tumbleweed racks is the 3 bolt mounts built in to the support 
>>> legs. Makes these racks very versatile.
>>> [image: image0.jpeg]
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>> On Sep 21, 2023, at 12:54 PM, greenteadrinkers  
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> In the latest PLP video, Russ brings to light a nice basket solution 
>>> from a company called Manivelle. The Le Porteur version is a little less 
>>> than 2 lbs, which is kind of amazing for a basket and rack combination. The 
>>> standard version seems to work well with a basket bag. Looks like you might 
>>> spend under $100 for the Manivelle.
>>>
>>>
>>> https://cyclesmanivelle.com/en/-shop/racks-baskets/
>>>
>>> On Thursday, September 21, 2023 at 12:19:47 PM UTC-4 ack...@gmail.com 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Just found a screamin deal on a fully built 51 Sam. Now it's time to 
 get it kitted out. I love my Pass And Stow for the heavy duty- stuff and 
 aesthetically, it's unmatched IMO. Perhaps a bit of overkill as a simple 
 basket rack. Would love an RBW51 Nitto rack, but not sure I can justify 
 the 
 $288 plus tax. Looking for something simple and elegant and cost-efficient 
 for mounting a Wald 139 Hardware-less Basket and a Tunitas 137 Tote. 
 If anybody has a well used RBW51 that they would be willing to part 
 with, I'd love to hear from you.
 Also looking for other options and would love to see what y'all are 
 using for your Wald 139 Baskets.
 Thanks!
 Alex
 a c k s f 7 8 gmail

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Re: [RBW] Re: Single Speed (QB/SO/RU..) Questions

[Bill Lindsay]

Not that anybody cares, but people reported the 16/19 was/is out of 
production.  That was partially true, and now is totally true.  When I 
reached out to Mike last month, he secured the last 16/19 that White 
Industries ever made.  It arrived today, so now I'm all set.  Eagle eyed 
parts buyers should keep your eyes peeled for a 16/19 because they are now 
officially 'scarce'.  Roaduno planners may have to make different plans if 
they were counting on a 16/19.  The 16/18 and 17/19 are still totally 
available.  

BL in EC

On Friday, August 25, 2023 at 8:42:19 AM UTC-7 Bill Lindsay wrote:

> I've bought three or four 16/19s through Mike Varley of Black Mountain 
> Cycles.  I don't remember if I got my last one before or after 3/22.  I 
> just emailed Mike to see if I can buy another.  There is "off menu" stuff 
> that White Industries doesn't push because the general population of noobs 
> have shown they don't know how to use it.  The 16/19 is one of those parts 
> that isn't idiot proof*.  If it exists, I can buy it through Mike.  If it's 
> really discontinued, then Mike won't be able to get it for me (and my 
> holdings got a LOT more valuable).  
>
> BL in EC
>
> * I think the idiot move is to run a single ring, vertical dropouts, the 
> eccentric ENO hub and the 16/19 freewheel.  The eccentric ENO hub doesn't 
> take up all the slack on some builds.  The person buying all that stuff is 
> mad and demands a refund for everything.  
> On Friday, August 25, 2023 at 8:01:29 AM UTC-7 brok...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Just FYI, White Ind’s site says the 16/19 Dos freewheel was discontinued 
>> in March of ‘22.
>>
>> On Aug 25, 2023, at 10:50 AM, Will Boericke  wrote:
>>
>> Were it me, I'd be inclined to build an IGH rear wheel for it.  I have a 
>> Sturmey Archer 3sp path racer that is one of my favorite bikes right now, 
>> and I commute on an 8sp Nexus IGH that is not light, but works well.  You 
>> could have an attractive frame that is also a practical family rider that 
>> way.
>>
>>
>>
>> Will, fan of the IGH
>>
>> On Thursday, August 24, 2023 at 8:11:49 PM UTC-4 jasonz...@gmail.com 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> So as its been posted, I'm selling my Quickbeam, but even with "too low" 
>>> prices, its still not moving.  I also have options to figured out how to 
>>> tow my newest addition and I can make space/have the space so who cares. 
>>>  The big concern for me is riding it and I don't find myself jumping on it 
>>> as often as I'd like.  Partially due to the epic mtn bike scene immediately 
>>> around me and my newly rebuilt bombora that I absolutely love.  That said, 
>>> It would be fun to hit the trails on a QB and I have a pass rack and 
>>> some bags I'd like to use to do some camping with my twin boys (7) and the 
>>> SS would be a nice way to enjoy the trip out to the woods with them.  
>>>
>>> The question I pose is what gear options do you all enjoy.  I've dug 
>>> into the internets and I'm sure there is a post or 100 on this here already 
>>> but I figured with the upcoming roduno and its many possibilities, this 
>>> might be a fun chat to dig into.
>>>
>>> I'm currently at 48-18 and its great climbing around rural gravel roads 
>>> in the midwest but now I'm in steeper hills its a bear-cat.
>>>
>>> Thanks xo
>>> Jason Cheap QB For Sale.
>>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Front basket rack recommendations

[Alex K]

Oh boy. That is a brilliant use of the Tumbleweed rack If only The Sam 
fork had those mounts on the fork I really really dig that. As far as 
the Tunitas 137 Basket Tote in the Wald 139 basket, I tried a Tunitas 139 
Basket Bag in the 139 basket and it was way too snug, no wiggle room and I 
really had to jam it in there to get it to feel right. The 137 Basket Tote 
just fits better. Similar issues with the Sackville ShopSack Large vs. 
Medium. The large WILL fit, but the medium fits like a glove. Will keep an 
eye out for the pelago
Alex


On Thursday, September 21, 2023 at 10:28:53 AM UTC-7 DavidP wrote:

> Hi Alex,
>
> Just double checking - but you mention a Wald 139 basket (the larger one) 
> and the Tunitas 137 tote (the one designed for the Wald 137 basket).
>
> If you are looking for the larger basket, then the Pelago Rasket may be 
> worth a look. It's another combo basket and front rack and the basket is 
> slightly larger than the Wald 139.
>
> -Dave
>
> On Thursday, September 21, 2023 at 1:12:26 PM UTC-4 rmro...@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>
>> I thought it odd that the basket was a bit larger than a Wald 137. Seems 
>> so many nice basket bags are perfectly sized for the 137. I have been very 
>> happy mounting my 137 via zip ties to a Tumbleweed “T” rack. The best thing 
>> about the Tumbleweed racks is the 3 bolt mounts built in to the support 
>> legs. Makes these racks very versatile.
>> [image: image0.jpeg]
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Sep 21, 2023, at 12:54 PM, greenteadrinkers  
>> wrote:
>>
>> In the latest PLP video, Russ brings to light a nice basket solution 
>> from a company called Manivelle. The Le Porteur version is a little less 
>> than 2 lbs, which is kind of amazing for a basket and rack combination. The 
>> standard version seems to work well with a basket bag. Looks like you might 
>> spend under $100 for the Manivelle.
>>
>>
>> https://cyclesmanivelle.com/en/-shop/racks-baskets/
>>
>> On Thursday, September 21, 2023 at 12:19:47 PM UTC-4 ack...@gmail.com 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Just found a screamin deal on a fully built 51 Sam. Now it's time to get 
>>> it kitted out. I love my Pass And Stow for the heavy duty- stuff and 
>>> aesthetically, it's unmatched IMO. Perhaps a bit of overkill as a simple 
>>> basket rack. Would love an RBW51 Nitto rack, but not sure I can justify the 
>>> $288 plus tax. Looking for something simple and elegant and cost-efficient 
>>> for mounting a Wald 139 Hardware-less Basket and a Tunitas 137 Tote. 
>>> If anybody has a well used RBW51 that they would be willing to part 
>>> with, I'd love to hear from you.
>>> Also looking for other options and would love to see what y'all are 
>>> using for your Wald 139 Baskets.
>>> Thanks!
>>> Alex
>>> a c k s f 7 8 gmail
>>>
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[RBW] Re: Help me repair Pam's Silver shifters

[christian poppell]

I too am impressed that the pawls have worn out. I havent seen it mentioned 
yet, what is the original material of the pawl?

For 3d printing, Shapeways.com can print in a variety of materials with 
good resolution and decent timeline. 

For lasercutting, Sendcutsend.com is a good economical option if they have 
a stock that matches the thickenss of the pawl. Resolution with laser 
cutters is pretty good but oversizing the mating surface and filing to fit 
would probably give the best result with the least amount of fiddling. 
Might have to work around a minimum size requirement but you could gang a 
few together with bridges. They have all sorts of materials in different 
thicknesses.

A jewelers saw, flat stock, and some paitence would do the same but theres 
a little more skill involved. 

If you need any help drawing it up for cutting shoot me a PM. Happy to help 
get these shifters back on the road!

Christian
Phoenix, AZ
On Thursday, September 21, 2023 at 12:28:16 PM UTC-7 Bicycle Belle Ding 
Ding! wrote:

> Wes, Pam’s bike is a model of beausage. There is no Betty Foy used 
> harder…maybe Caroline Gollum can give Pam a run for her money, but that’s 
> about it. (Caroline wrote in a recent thread that her well-loved Betty had 
> a stem seized and then later they discovered the skewer to the wheel was 
> seized, too.) Pam just crossed over 74,000 miles on her Betty. Not bad for 
> a bike purchased in 2011!
>
> Here is the 10 year anniversary post Pam did about her Betty. I’m sure 
> that little bike is far more marked up now than it was in those photos.
>
> https://cltspokespeople.org/my-betty-foy-after-10-years/
> Leah
> On Thursday, September 21, 2023 at 11:12:44 AM UTC-4 Wesley wrote:
>
>> I am frankly amazed at the workout Pam is giving her bike, to wear out 
>> multiple shifter pawls! I can imagine a few ways to do a repair, none of 
>> which are "worth it", in terms of resource and money cost (3D printing, 
>> filing down a bit of aluminum bar, CNC milling). The most expedient fix, 
>> IMO, would be to epoxy the ratchet gear to the shifter body so that the 
>> both directions work in friction mode.
>> -Wes
>>
>> On Tuesday, September 19, 2023 at 8:02:06 PM UTC-7 eric...@gmail.com 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi all — I'm looking for some neglected, cast off or broken Silver 1 
>>> shifters to scavenge so that I can repair some broken Silver 1 shifters 
>>> sent to me by forum member Pam Murray. If you have some you aren't using or 
>>> that you think are broken which you are willing to send me for the cost of 
>>> shipping please let me know. I will use them to repair Pam's shifters and 
>>> get them back to her! 
>>>
>>> I recently read enjoyed Pam's thread on broken Silver shifters 
>>> .
>>>  
>>> And right on time one of my Silvers broke. So I took mine apart to have a 
>>> look. It turns out the spring was clogged with corrosion and wouldn't 
>>> compress, allowing for the pawl to hold the ratchet wheel and hold tension 
>>> on the shifter cable. Luckily the spring and pawl only needed to be cleaned 
>>> and reassembled. 
>>>
>>> Pam sent me three broken Silver shifters. As many of us know, Pam has 
>>> put tens of thousands of miles on her legendary Betty Foy. She's worn out 
>>> many parts and she's interested in getting them back into service when 
>>> possible. I took a look and was able to fix one of the shifters. The other 
>>> two require new pawls, which I can't locate. 
>>>
>>> [image: Screenshot 2023-09-19 at 10.59.05 PM.png]
>>>
>>> I reached out to Dia Compe in Taiwan about spare parts. They replied 
>>> quickly but said they could not send me any bits and pieces and suggested I 
>>> contact Rivendell. 
>>>
>>> So I wrote to Will Keating at Rivendell, who's a wonderfully helpful and 
>>> nice guy and a friend and he said he'd send me some parts. Well, they 
>>> arrived today and they're *brand new* Silver 2 levers. I really don't 
>>> want to destroy brand new shifters to revive old shifters! I'm sure the 
>>> pawls I need are inside but I can't bring myself to tear them apart. 
>>> They've very definitely never been installed on a bike. 
>>>
>>> I have found some replacement springs from McMaster-Carr 
>>> . They're heavier gauge wire and 
>>> slightly longer than the stock springs from Dia Compe. But they fit and 
>>> they work. They do result in a lever with heavier action but they do not 
>>> make the lever difficult to operate. 
>>>
>>> My plan, once I locate some pawls, is to make a Silver shifter repair 
>>> and maintenance video. I hope that with donated parts from other members I 
>>> can fix Pam's shifters, show the process of disassembly, repair and 
>>> re-assembly and share it with the group (and the rest of the web). I'll 
>>> include a detailed look of the proper order for all the bits and how the 
>>> get the shifter closed back up. 
>>>
>>> Thanks in advance! 

[RBW] Re: Help me repair Pam's Silver shifters

[Bicycle Belle Ding Ding!]

Wes, Pam’s bike is a model of beausage. There is no Betty Foy used 
harder…maybe Caroline Gollum can give Pam a run for her money, but that’s 
about it. (Caroline wrote in a recent thread that her well-loved Betty had 
a stem seized and then later they discovered the skewer to the wheel was 
seized, too.) Pam just crossed over 74,000 miles on her Betty. Not bad for 
a bike purchased in 2011!

Here is the 10 year anniversary post Pam did about her Betty. I’m sure that 
little bike is far more marked up now than it was in those photos.

https://cltspokespeople.org/my-betty-foy-after-10-years/
Leah
On Thursday, September 21, 2023 at 11:12:44 AM UTC-4 Wesley wrote:

> I am frankly amazed at the workout Pam is giving her bike, to wear out 
> multiple shifter pawls! I can imagine a few ways to do a repair, none of 
> which are "worth it", in terms of resource and money cost (3D printing, 
> filing down a bit of aluminum bar, CNC milling). The most expedient fix, 
> IMO, would be to epoxy the ratchet gear to the shifter body so that the 
> both directions work in friction mode.
> -Wes
>
> On Tuesday, September 19, 2023 at 8:02:06 PM UTC-7 eric...@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>
>> Hi all — I'm looking for some neglected, cast off or broken Silver 1 
>> shifters to scavenge so that I can repair some broken Silver 1 shifters 
>> sent to me by forum member Pam Murray. If you have some you aren't using or 
>> that you think are broken which you are willing to send me for the cost of 
>> shipping please let me know. I will use them to repair Pam's shifters and 
>> get them back to her! 
>>
>> I recently read enjoyed Pam's thread on broken Silver shifters 
>> . 
>> And right on time one of my Silvers broke. So I took mine apart to have a 
>> look. It turns out the spring was clogged with corrosion and wouldn't 
>> compress, allowing for the pawl to hold the ratchet wheel and hold tension 
>> on the shifter cable. Luckily the spring and pawl only needed to be cleaned 
>> and reassembled. 
>>
>> Pam sent me three broken Silver shifters. As many of us know, Pam has put 
>> tens of thousands of miles on her legendary Betty Foy. She's worn out many 
>> parts and she's interested in getting them back into service when possible. 
>> I took a look and was able to fix one of the shifters. The other two 
>> require new pawls, which I can't locate. 
>>
>> [image: Screenshot 2023-09-19 at 10.59.05 PM.png]
>>
>> I reached out to Dia Compe in Taiwan about spare parts. They replied 
>> quickly but said they could not send me any bits and pieces and suggested I 
>> contact Rivendell. 
>>
>> So I wrote to Will Keating at Rivendell, who's a wonderfully helpful and 
>> nice guy and a friend and he said he'd send me some parts. Well, they 
>> arrived today and they're *brand new* Silver 2 levers. I really don't 
>> want to destroy brand new shifters to revive old shifters! I'm sure the 
>> pawls I need are inside but I can't bring myself to tear them apart. 
>> They've very definitely never been installed on a bike. 
>>
>> I have found some replacement springs from McMaster-Carr 
>> . They're heavier gauge wire and 
>> slightly longer than the stock springs from Dia Compe. But they fit and 
>> they work. They do result in a lever with heavier action but they do not 
>> make the lever difficult to operate. 
>>
>> My plan, once I locate some pawls, is to make a Silver shifter repair and 
>> maintenance video. I hope that with donated parts from other members I can 
>> fix Pam's shifters, show the process of disassembly, repair and re-assembly 
>> and share it with the group (and the rest of the web). I'll include a 
>> detailed look of the proper order for all the bits and how the get the 
>> shifter closed back up. 
>>
>> Thanks in advance! 
>>
>

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[RBW] Re: Help me repair Pam's Silver shifters

[Garth]

A couple things with the ST Sprint shifters Pam. Firstly I don't know for 
sure, but I'd venture to guess the compression washer Riv and others sell 
for the Dia Compe/Riv versions will likely work as I thought these were 
based on the Sprint tooling. Secondly, I read this about Campagnolo DT 
shifters that slip, that is to apply some rosin powder to the inside of the 
washer. Rosin is a tacky powder typically used by baseball pitchers for 
better grip. This gives the shifter washer some added friction. Any 
sporting goods store that sells baseball stuff with have either a rosin bag 
or a bottle of powder. More friction inside the shifter means it doesn't 
need to be tightened as much, hence last longer ! 

On Thursday, September 21, 2023 at 1:29:50 PM UTC-4 Pam Bikes wrote:

> I ordered a new shifter but - duh - ordered the wrong one.  So I ordered 
> the correct one.  It's on it's way.  
>
> I promise I'm not lax about my bike.  But I'm not overly careful.  Parts 
> wear out and break.  I like a tall kickstand and I strap my purse on the 
> handlebars and sometimes it falls or the wind blows it down.  I have been 
> better.  And sometimes I get it off Amtrak and it has fallen apparently.  
> So now I have some foam and a cardboard tube I put on the L so if it falls 
> it won't break hopefully.  But I know I'll need another shifter at some 
> point in the future.  
>
> I like to keep spare parts in the closet.  I use my bike everyday. 
>
> BTW I did try to put an old pair of SunTour shifters on and for some 
> reason, They wouldn't get tight enough to have enough friction to hold.  A 
> friend had a pair I would have used.
>
> Thank you to everyone who is helping us out.  Among us all we have all the 
> parts.  
>
> On Thursday, September 21, 2023 at 11:12:44 AM UTC-4 Wesley wrote:
>
>> I am frankly amazed at the workout Pam is giving her bike, to wear out 
>> multiple shifter pawls! I can imagine a few ways to do a repair, none of 
>> which are "worth it", in terms of resource and money cost (3D printing, 
>> filing down a bit of aluminum bar, CNC milling). The most expedient fix, 
>> IMO, would be to epoxy the ratchet gear to the shifter body so that the 
>> both directions work in friction mode.
>> -Wes
>>
>> On Tuesday, September 19, 2023 at 8:02:06 PM UTC-7 eric...@gmail.com 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi all — I'm looking for some neglected, cast off or broken Silver 1 
>>> shifters to scavenge so that I can repair some broken Silver 1 shifters 
>>> sent to me by forum member Pam Murray. If you have some you aren't using or 
>>> that you think are broken which you are willing to send me for the cost of 
>>> shipping please let me know. I will use them to repair Pam's shifters and 
>>> get them back to her! 
>>>
>>> I recently read enjoyed Pam's thread on broken Silver shifters 
>>> .
>>>  
>>> And right on time one of my Silvers broke. So I took mine apart to have a 
>>> look. It turns out the spring was clogged with corrosion and wouldn't 
>>> compress, allowing for the pawl to hold the ratchet wheel and hold tension 
>>> on the shifter cable. Luckily the spring and pawl only needed to be cleaned 
>>> and reassembled. 
>>>
>>> Pam sent me three broken Silver shifters. As many of us know, Pam has 
>>> put tens of thousands of miles on her legendary Betty Foy. She's worn out 
>>> many parts and she's interested in getting them back into service when 
>>> possible. I took a look and was able to fix one of the shifters. The other 
>>> two require new pawls, which I can't locate. 
>>>
>>> [image: Screenshot 2023-09-19 at 10.59.05 PM.png]
>>>
>>> I reached out to Dia Compe in Taiwan about spare parts. They replied 
>>> quickly but said they could not send me any bits and pieces and suggested I 
>>> contact Rivendell. 
>>>
>>> So I wrote to Will Keating at Rivendell, who's a wonderfully helpful and 
>>> nice guy and a friend and he said he'd send me some parts. Well, they 
>>> arrived today and they're *brand new* Silver 2 levers. I really don't 
>>> want to destroy brand new shifters to revive old shifters! I'm sure the 
>>> pawls I need are inside but I can't bring myself to tear them apart. 
>>> They've very definitely never been installed on a bike. 
>>>
>>> I have found some replacement springs from McMaster-Carr 
>>> . They're heavier gauge wire and 
>>> slightly longer than the stock springs from Dia Compe. But they fit and 
>>> they work. They do result in a lever with heavier action but they do not 
>>> make the lever difficult to operate. 
>>>
>>> My plan, once I locate some pawls, is to make a Silver shifter repair 
>>> and maintenance video. I hope that with donated parts from other members I 
>>> can fix Pam's shifters, show the process of disassembly, repair and 
>>> re-assembly and share it with the group (and the rest of the web). I'll 
>>> include a detailed look of the proper order for 

[RBW] Re: Riv Ride Report - Impromptu Ride /w Grant

[Pam Bikes]

Great story!  I took my Betty to the Asheville Riv ride.  We rode Bent 
Creek and as we rode in I passed so many people on full suspension MTBs.  
Needless to say I was underbiked.  But she handled well as all Rivs do.  
You just need to trust the bike.  And have a blast!  Thanks for sharing 
your story.

On Wednesday, September 20, 2023 at 11:27:13 AM UTC-4 sarahlik...@gmail.com 
wrote:

> Leah helped me with process of finding and then going through the process 
> of custom painting my Platypus. If I was a super cool technology person I 
> could direct your right to that conversation. There is also someone who 
> custom painted an orange bike... 
>
> On Tuesday, September 19, 2023 at 10:19:51 AM UTC-7 Joe A. wrote:
>
>> Leah and Sarah, I've passed your support to Mathilde to which she said 
>> "See, they get it!" :)
>>
>> And also, I wouldn't say I crashed twice, more like I had to bail from 
>> the bike because I lost balance. Nothing catastrophic (except for a bruise 
>> or two from those damn bear trap pedals!)
>>
>> On Monday, September 18, 2023 at 7:11:15 PM UTC-7 RBW Owners Bunch wrote:
>>
>>> And I wanted a raspberry bike! So I also say make it happen for the 
>>> yellow or orange bike!
>>>
>>> I thoroughly enjoyed reading this thread, start to finish. I was as 
>>> delighted as if it had been me who got the experience. How wonderful. But I 
>>> would not have been brave enough to be doing single track out there with 
>>> Riv People. You crashed twice? Nope, nope, nope. Put me back on the bike 
>>> path please and thank you.
>>>
>>> On Monday, September 18, 2023 at 8:22:30 PM UTC-4 sarahlik...@gmail.com 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 As a lady who also wanted a yellow bike... and custom painted one 
 Make it happen! Say goodbye to barf green!


 On Monday, September 18, 2023 at 1:40:39 PM UTC-7 Joe A. wrote:

> Hey All,
>
> I wanted to share a special ride report from this past Saturday.
>
> Originally, my wife and I planned to hop on BART from West Oakland and 
> travel to Walnut Creek to visit the Riv HQ, followed by a quick ride 
> around 
> Shell Ridge. I've been to the showroom a handful of times to pick some 
> odds 
> and ends, but my wife has never been. 
>
> She currently rides a Clem H in "Barf Green" as she calls it (ha!) 
> that I sourced for her from a fellow bay area Riv rider. It's an amazing 
> bike, but as she didn't pick it, it's never truly been *hers*. I was 
> excited for her to try out a few bikes and finally find her one true 
> steed.
>
> We arrived to find Grant in the showroom, helping another person find 
> their PBH size. Before long, my Wife and Grant were deep in conversation 
> about what type of bike she was looking for, and she hopped on a 
> Platypus, 
> Homer (the new gold ones look amazing in person btw), Proto Charlie, 
> amongst others. She immediately fell in love with the Homer and was 
> zipping 
> around the compound with a huge smile on her face. While she did that, I 
> nerded out with James, checking out his Homer and Atlantis.
>
> Intermittently, Grant, James, and Riv Friend Dan, gushed about the 
> color of her frame, how unique the color was and how beautiful it was in 
> the light (all things I also thought when I scored the bike for her). For 
> context, my wife is obsessed with getting a yellow or orange bike, and 
> nothing else will please her :) Grant conceded to her that yes, one 
> should 
> have a bike in a color that makes them love it, and so it in was in 
> friendly jest that for the rest of our time together Grant kept talking 
> up 
> her "barf green" Clem. I thought it was hilarious.
>
> After an hour or so, we said that we'd come back another day to hammer 
> out the details on a build, and that we were off to Shell Ridge to ride 
> some trails. I confessed that we'd never been out there before and James 
> let me take a photo of a map they had on hand to get there. 
>
> We set off, only to find both Grant (on his light blue Clem) and Dan 
> (on his army green Gus) waiting near the start of the trailhead!
>
> They graciously offered to show us around (though were careful to give 
> us the option to get a few pointers and continue on with our date ride). 
> Obviously, we were more that elated to have Grant and Dan lead us on our 
> first ride in Riv's backyard. How cool is that??
>
> So we were off! Grant and Dan tested our chops a bit through some 
> light trails, and eventually we came up to a fork in the road. Grant and 
> Dan gave each other a look and after a moment Grant said "well, you two 
> look like you can handle yourselves, so let's try some singletrack, it'll 
> be fun!"
>
> Full disclosure: my Wife and I are pretty avid cyclists, though we 
> spend most of our time on easier 

[RBW] Re: Help me repair Pam's Silver shifters

[Pam Bikes]

I ordered a new shifter but - duh - ordered the wrong one.  So I ordered 
the correct one.  It's on it's way.  

I promise I'm not lax about my bike.  But I'm not overly careful.  Parts 
wear out and break.  I like a tall kickstand and I strap my purse on the 
handlebars and sometimes it falls or the wind blows it down.  I have been 
better.  And sometimes I get it off Amtrak and it has fallen apparently.  
So now I have some foam and a cardboard tube I put on the L so if it falls 
it won't break hopefully.  But I know I'll need another shifter at some 
point in the future.  

I like to keep spare parts in the closet.  I use my bike everyday. 

BTW I did try to put an old pair of SunTour shifters on and for some 
reason, They wouldn't get tight enough to have enough friction to hold.  A 
friend had a pair I would have used.

Thank you to everyone who is helping us out.  Among us all we have all the 
parts.  

On Thursday, September 21, 2023 at 11:12:44 AM UTC-4 Wesley wrote:

> I am frankly amazed at the workout Pam is giving her bike, to wear out 
> multiple shifter pawls! I can imagine a few ways to do a repair, none of 
> which are "worth it", in terms of resource and money cost (3D printing, 
> filing down a bit of aluminum bar, CNC milling). The most expedient fix, 
> IMO, would be to epoxy the ratchet gear to the shifter body so that the 
> both directions work in friction mode.
> -Wes
>
> On Tuesday, September 19, 2023 at 8:02:06 PM UTC-7 eric...@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>
>> Hi all — I'm looking for some neglected, cast off or broken Silver 1 
>> shifters to scavenge so that I can repair some broken Silver 1 shifters 
>> sent to me by forum member Pam Murray. If you have some you aren't using or 
>> that you think are broken which you are willing to send me for the cost of 
>> shipping please let me know. I will use them to repair Pam's shifters and 
>> get them back to her! 
>>
>> I recently read enjoyed Pam's thread on broken Silver shifters 
>> . 
>> And right on time one of my Silvers broke. So I took mine apart to have a 
>> look. It turns out the spring was clogged with corrosion and wouldn't 
>> compress, allowing for the pawl to hold the ratchet wheel and hold tension 
>> on the shifter cable. Luckily the spring and pawl only needed to be cleaned 
>> and reassembled. 
>>
>> Pam sent me three broken Silver shifters. As many of us know, Pam has put 
>> tens of thousands of miles on her legendary Betty Foy. She's worn out many 
>> parts and she's interested in getting them back into service when possible. 
>> I took a look and was able to fix one of the shifters. The other two 
>> require new pawls, which I can't locate. 
>>
>> [image: Screenshot 2023-09-19 at 10.59.05 PM.png]
>>
>> I reached out to Dia Compe in Taiwan about spare parts. They replied 
>> quickly but said they could not send me any bits and pieces and suggested I 
>> contact Rivendell. 
>>
>> So I wrote to Will Keating at Rivendell, who's a wonderfully helpful and 
>> nice guy and a friend and he said he'd send me some parts. Well, they 
>> arrived today and they're *brand new* Silver 2 levers. I really don't 
>> want to destroy brand new shifters to revive old shifters! I'm sure the 
>> pawls I need are inside but I can't bring myself to tear them apart. 
>> They've very definitely never been installed on a bike. 
>>
>> I have found some replacement springs from McMaster-Carr 
>> . They're heavier gauge wire and 
>> slightly longer than the stock springs from Dia Compe. But they fit and 
>> they work. They do result in a lever with heavier action but they do not 
>> make the lever difficult to operate. 
>>
>> My plan, once I locate some pawls, is to make a Silver shifter repair and 
>> maintenance video. I hope that with donated parts from other members I can 
>> fix Pam's shifters, show the process of disassembly, repair and re-assembly 
>> and share it with the group (and the rest of the web). I'll include a 
>> detailed look of the proper order for all the bits and how the get the 
>> shifter closed back up. 
>>
>> Thanks in advance! 
>>
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: Front basket rack recommendations

[DavidP]

Hi Alex,

Just double checking - but you mention a Wald 139 basket (the larger one) 
and the Tunitas 137 tote (the one designed for the Wald 137 basket).

If you are looking for the larger basket, then the Pelago Rasket may be 
worth a look. It's another combo basket and front rack and the basket is 
slightly larger than the Wald 139.

-Dave

On Thursday, September 21, 2023 at 1:12:26 PM UTC-4 rmro...@gmail.com wrote:

> I thought it odd that the basket was a bit larger than a Wald 137. Seems 
> so many nice basket bags are perfectly sized for the 137. I have been very 
> happy mounting my 137 via zip ties to a Tumbleweed “T” rack. The best thing 
> about the Tumbleweed racks is the 3 bolt mounts built in to the support 
> legs. Makes these racks very versatile.
> [image: image0.jpeg]
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Sep 21, 2023, at 12:54 PM, greenteadrinkers  
> wrote:
>
> In the latest PLP video, Russ brings to light a nice basket solution from 
> a company called Manivelle. The Le Porteur version is a little less than 2 
> lbs, which is kind of amazing for a basket and rack combination. The 
> standard version seems to work well with a basket bag. Looks like you might 
> spend under $100 for the Manivelle.
>
>
> https://cyclesmanivelle.com/en/-shop/racks-baskets/
>
> On Thursday, September 21, 2023 at 12:19:47 PM UTC-4 ack...@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>
>> Just found a screamin deal on a fully built 51 Sam. Now it's time to get 
>> it kitted out. I love my Pass And Stow for the heavy duty- stuff and 
>> aesthetically, it's unmatched IMO. Perhaps a bit of overkill as a simple 
>> basket rack. Would love an RBW51 Nitto rack, but not sure I can justify the 
>> $288 plus tax. Looking for something simple and elegant and cost-efficient 
>> for mounting a Wald 139 Hardware-less Basket and a Tunitas 137 Tote. 
>> If anybody has a well used RBW51 that they would be willing to part with, 
>> I'd love to hear from you.
>> Also looking for other options and would love to see what y'all are using 
>> for your Wald 139 Baskets.
>> Thanks!
>> Alex
>> a c k s f 7 8 gmail
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Re: [RBW] Re: Toyo Atlantis Update

[Eliot Balogh]

It’s the m960 version which is a polished rapid rise and one of the last
versions of their 9 speed. I have a medium cage that I will be posting
shortly which I would imagine could shift an 11/32.

On Thu, Sep 21, 2023 at 7:18 AM 'Kurt Henry' via RBW Owners Bunch <
rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com> wrote:

> I'll agree with others, that is a very nice looking Atlantis!  Which model
> of XTR derailleur are you using?   I thought most of the earlier XTR
> derailleurs were grey, but that definitely looks shiny.   I have been
> hunting for a silver rear derailleur for a custom build, and new ones are
> pretty hard to come by.  Everything that will shift a broader range now
> only seems to come in black. I just found out yesterday that I am #2 in
> line, and #1 is not returning calls, so finding some key parts just became
> more urgent.  That might work if I can find one!
> Thanks!
> Kurt Henry
> Lancaster, PA
>
> On Thursday, September 21, 2023 at 12:13:27 AM UTC-4 eliot...@gmail.com
> wrote:
>
>> I think it’s a 40/24 setup with a 11/32 cassette. This was my first ride
>> in this configuration and it might be too low for me. I spend a lot of time
>> in the top 1/3 of the gear range. The low gears were nice for the hills
>> though.
>>
>> The housing I’m using I got from Velo Orange. It looks nice. It works.
>> I’m not sure it’s better than Jagwire.
>>
>> I am fighting with the front fender rattling. I suspect I need to put
>> some helicopter tape under the fender stays between the fender and the
>> stays. Driving me nuts. Should have gone for a more expensive stainless
>> fender. These cheaper aluminum ones don’t feel as nice as the Berthouds I
>> had on the Surly.
>>
>> The XTR drivetrain is sweet. It’s my first time running a rapid rise with
>> friction. I like it. I can see why GP is a fan. Looking forward to the
>> Silver Derailleur.
>>
>> On Wed, Sep 20, 2023 at 8:59 PM Kim H.  wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Eliot,
>>>
>>> What a difference of change you made to your bike !  Excellent job. You
>>> are matching the black from the handlebars all the way down to the feet of
>>> the double kickstand. Very nice.
>>>
>>> XTR drive train - very cool
>>>
>>> What is your inner chain ring count ?
>>>
>>> That cable housing you are using... is it any better than the standard
>>> Jagwire housing ?
>>>
>>> Suggest buying some helicopter tape for your drive train chain stay
>>> underneath your protective piece of rubber ?
>>> This is what I bought for my Clem. I am very happy with the product.
>>>
>>>
>>> https://www.amazon.com/ISC-Racers-Tape-HT2128-Transparent/dp/B000TPC7HU/ref=sr_1_1?crid=2NJT0GPDH55NS=ISC%2BRacers%2BTape%2BHT2128%2BISC%2BRacerstape%2BSurface%2BProtection%2BTape%2B%2F%2BHelicopter%2BTape=1695268525=isc%2Bracers%2Btape%2Bht2128%2Bisc%2Bracerstape%2Bsurface%2Bprotection%2Btape%2B%2F%2Bhelicopter%2Btape%2Caps%2C213=8-1=1
>>>
>>> Looking good on that hill overlooking the water...
>>>
>>> Kim Hetzel.
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, September 20, 2023 at 8:41:31 PM UTC-7 eliot...@gmail.com
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Much better. New Album:  https://flic.kr/s/aHBqjAVscy
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[RBW] Re: Front basket rack recommendations

[greenteadrinkers]

In the latest PLP video, Russ brings to light a nice basket solution from a 
company called Manivelle. The Le Porteur version is a little less than 2 
lbs, which is kind of amazing for a basket and rack combination. The 
standard version seems to work well with a basket bag. Looks like you might 
spend under $100 for the Manivelle.

https://cyclesmanivelle.com/en/-shop/racks-baskets/

On Thursday, September 21, 2023 at 12:19:47 PM UTC-4 ack...@gmail.com wrote:

> Just found a screamin deal on a fully built 51 Sam. Now it's time to get 
> it kitted out. I love my Pass And Stow for the heavy duty- stuff and 
> aesthetically, it's unmatched IMO. Perhaps a bit of overkill as a simple 
> basket rack. Would love an RBW51 Nitto rack, but not sure I can justify the 
> $288 plus tax. Looking for something simple and elegant and cost-efficient 
> for mounting a Wald 139 Hardware-less Basket and a Tunitas 137 Tote. 
> If anybody has a well used RBW51 that they would be willing to part with, 
> I'd love to hear from you.
> Also looking for other options and would love to see what y'all are using 
> for your Wald 139 Baskets.
> Thanks!
> Alex
> a c k s f 7 8 gmail
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[RBW] Front basket rack recommendations

[Alex K]

Just found a screamin deal on a fully built 51 Sam. Now it's time to get it 
kitted out. I love my Pass And Stow for the heavy duty- stuff and 
aesthetically, it's unmatched IMO. Perhaps a bit of overkill as a simple 
basket rack. Would love an RBW51 Nitto rack, but not sure I can justify the 
$288 plus tax. Looking for something simple and elegant and cost-efficient 
for mounting a Wald 139 Hardware-less Basket and a Tunitas 137 Tote. 
If anybody has a well used RBW51 that they would be willing to part with, 
I'd love to hear from you.
Also looking for other options and would love to see what y'all are using 
for your Wald 139 Baskets.
Thanks!
Alex
a c k s f 7 8 gmail

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[RBW] Re: 65cm Specialized Sequoia

[Edwin W]

Love that build photo you've got!

Too big for me, but good luck,

Edwin

On Wednesday, September 20, 2023 at 1:20:30 PM UTC-5 mitchel...@gmail.com 
wrote:

> Hello! I'm looking to recoup some funds from a recent purchase and on the 
> chopping block is this 65cm Specialized Sequoia..Hard to find 65cm size.. 
> perfect for a 650b conversion.. all the details in craigslist ad.
>
> Hoping to sell locally but I do have some packing material and bike box in 
> my shop. 
>
> Reach out if you have any questions!
>
> Mitch 
>
>
> https://sfbay.craigslist.org/sfc/bik/d/san-francisco-65cm-specialized-sequoia/7667168003.html
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[RBW] Re: Help me repair Pam's Silver shifters

[Wesley]

I am frankly amazed at the workout Pam is giving her bike, to wear out 
multiple shifter pawls! I can imagine a few ways to do a repair, none of 
which are "worth it", in terms of resource and money cost (3D printing, 
filing down a bit of aluminum bar, CNC milling). The most expedient fix, 
IMO, would be to epoxy the ratchet gear to the shifter body so that the 
both directions work in friction mode.
-Wes

On Tuesday, September 19, 2023 at 8:02:06 PM UTC-7 eric...@gmail.com wrote:

> Hi all — I'm looking for some neglected, cast off or broken Silver 1 
> shifters to scavenge so that I can repair some broken Silver 1 shifters 
> sent to me by forum member Pam Murray. If you have some you aren't using or 
> that you think are broken which you are willing to send me for the cost of 
> shipping please let me know. I will use them to repair Pam's shifters and 
> get them back to her! 
>
> I recently read enjoyed Pam's thread on broken Silver shifters 
> . 
> And right on time one of my Silvers broke. So I took mine apart to have a 
> look. It turns out the spring was clogged with corrosion and wouldn't 
> compress, allowing for the pawl to hold the ratchet wheel and hold tension 
> on the shifter cable. Luckily the spring and pawl only needed to be cleaned 
> and reassembled. 
>
> Pam sent me three broken Silver shifters. As many of us know, Pam has put 
> tens of thousands of miles on her legendary Betty Foy. She's worn out many 
> parts and she's interested in getting them back into service when possible. 
> I took a look and was able to fix one of the shifters. The other two 
> require new pawls, which I can't locate. 
>
> [image: Screenshot 2023-09-19 at 10.59.05 PM.png]
>
> I reached out to Dia Compe in Taiwan about spare parts. They replied 
> quickly but said they could not send me any bits and pieces and suggested I 
> contact Rivendell. 
>
> So I wrote to Will Keating at Rivendell, who's a wonderfully helpful and 
> nice guy and a friend and he said he'd send me some parts. Well, they 
> arrived today and they're *brand new* Silver 2 levers. I really don't 
> want to destroy brand new shifters to revive old shifters! I'm sure the 
> pawls I need are inside but I can't bring myself to tear them apart. 
> They've very definitely never been installed on a bike. 
>
> I have found some replacement springs from McMaster-Carr 
> . They're heavier gauge wire and 
> slightly longer than the stock springs from Dia Compe. But they fit and 
> they work. They do result in a lever with heavier action but they do not 
> make the lever difficult to operate. 
>
> My plan, once I locate some pawls, is to make a Silver shifter repair and 
> maintenance video. I hope that with donated parts from other members I can 
> fix Pam's shifters, show the process of disassembly, repair and re-assembly 
> and share it with the group (and the rest of the web). I'll include a 
> detailed look of the proper order for all the bits and how the get the 
> shifter closed back up. 
>
> Thanks in advance! 
>

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[RBW] WTB: Aluminum Albatross Bars

[Michael Ullmer]

I seemingly missed out on a few sets of bars that were for sale on the 
list. Anyone have a set of Aluminum Albatross bars? I'm ready to switch up 
from my Albastache setup on my 650b'ed Trek 640. 

PM off-list

Thanks!
Mike in Minneapolis

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Re: [RBW] Re: Toyo Atlantis Update

['Kurt Henry' via RBW Owners Bunch]

I'll agree with others, that is a very nice looking Atlantis!  Which model 
of XTR derailleur are you using?   I thought most of the earlier XTR 
derailleurs were grey, but that definitely looks shiny.   I have been 
hunting for a silver rear derailleur for a custom build, and new ones are 
pretty hard to come by.  Everything that will shift a broader range now 
only seems to come in black. I just found out yesterday that I am #2 in 
line, and #1 is not returning calls, so finding some key parts just became 
more urgent.  That might work if I can find one!
Thanks!
Kurt Henry
Lancaster, PA

On Thursday, September 21, 2023 at 12:13:27 AM UTC-4 eliot...@gmail.com 
wrote:

> I think it’s a 40/24 setup with a 11/32 cassette. This was my first ride 
> in this configuration and it might be too low for me. I spend a lot of time 
> in the top 1/3 of the gear range. The low gears were nice for the hills 
> though. 
>
> The housing I’m using I got from Velo Orange. It looks nice. It works. I’m 
> not sure it’s better than Jagwire. 
>
> I am fighting with the front fender rattling. I suspect I need to put some 
> helicopter tape under the fender stays between the fender and the stays. 
> Driving me nuts. Should have gone for a more expensive stainless fender. 
> These cheaper aluminum ones don’t feel as nice as the Berthouds I had on 
> the Surly. 
>
> The XTR drivetrain is sweet. It’s my first time running a rapid rise with 
> friction. I like it. I can see why GP is a fan. Looking forward to the 
> Silver Derailleur. 
>
> On Wed, Sep 20, 2023 at 8:59 PM Kim H.  wrote:
>
>> Hi Eliot,
>>
>> What a difference of change you made to your bike !  Excellent job. You 
>> are matching the black from the handlebars all the way down to the feet of 
>> the double kickstand. Very nice.
>>
>> XTR drive train - very cool
>>
>> What is your inner chain ring count ?
>>
>> That cable housing you are using... is it any better than the standard 
>> Jagwire housing ?
>>
>> Suggest buying some helicopter tape for your drive train chain stay 
>> underneath your protective piece of rubber ?
>> This is what I bought for my Clem. I am very happy with the product. 
>>
>>
>> https://www.amazon.com/ISC-Racers-Tape-HT2128-Transparent/dp/B000TPC7HU/ref=sr_1_1?crid=2NJT0GPDH55NS=ISC%2BRacers%2BTape%2BHT2128%2BISC%2BRacerstape%2BSurface%2BProtection%2BTape%2B%2F%2BHelicopter%2BTape=1695268525=isc%2Bracers%2Btape%2Bht2128%2Bisc%2Bracerstape%2Bsurface%2Bprotection%2Btape%2B%2F%2Bhelicopter%2Btape%2Caps%2C213=8-1=1
>>
>> Looking good on that hill overlooking the water...
>>
>> Kim Hetzel. 
>>
>> On Wednesday, September 20, 2023 at 8:41:31 PM UTC-7 eliot...@gmail.com 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Much better. New Album:  https://flic.kr/s/aHBqjAVscy
>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Toyo Atlantis Update

[Eliot Balogh]

How big is your cassette ? I have a medium I can sell you.

On Wed, Sep 20, 2023 at 10:12 PM John Rinker  wrote:

> Beautiful! I’ve never seen a silver xtr derailleur, and it’s rapid rise?
> I’m on the hunt for one now!
>
> Cheers, John
>
> On Sep 20, 2023, at 21:35, Kim H.  wrote:
>
> 
>
> Hi Eliot,
>
> My hope is that you find the proper gearing that is most comfortable for
> you, yet have some climbing gears.
>
> With my success of the addition of the Avid Micro-adapter and a 20T chain
> ring on the 74bcd along with a 34T ring on the 110bcd and a 11-40T SunRace
> cassette in the back, I am quite pleased.
>
> I had to change out the Shimano M952 rear derailleur with the long elbow
> extension to another M952 rear derailleur here the other day. I was having
> trouble out on the Willapa Hills Trail this past Saturday. It was not
> shifting properly. Now it shifts a lot better.
>
> I had a pair of Bethoud steel fenders on my Surly Long Haul Trucker. They
> were some very stout and sturdy fenders.
>
> I tried the rapid rise derailleur by Shimano a long time ago. After so
> many years of road riding, I did not like it. I am glad to hear that you
> do.
>
> I have in my parts drawer both the XTR front and rear derailleurs. They
> are very nice.
>
> Kim Hetzel.
>
> On Wednesday, September 20, 2023 at 9:13:27 PM UTC-7 eliot...@gmail.com
> wrote:
>
>> I think it’s a 40/24 setup with a 11/32 cassette. This was my first ride
>> in this configuration and it might be too low for me. I spend a lot of time
>> in the top 1/3 of the gear range. The low gears were nice for the hills
>> though.
>>
>> The housing I’m using I got from Velo Orange. It looks nice. It works.
>> I’m not sure it’s better than Jagwire.
>>
>> I am fighting with the front fender rattling. I suspect I need to put
>> some helicopter tape under the fender stays between the fender and the
>> stays. Driving me nuts. Should have gone for a more expensive stainless
>> fender. These cheaper aluminum ones don’t feel as nice as the Berthouds I
>> had on the Surly.
>>
>> The XTR drivetrain is sweet. It’s my first time running a rapid rise with
>> friction. I like it. I can see why GP is a fan. Looking forward to the
>> Silver Derailleur.
>>
>> On Wed, Sep 20, 2023 at 8:59 PM Kim H.  wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Eliot,
>>>
>>> What a difference of change you made to your bike !  Excellent job. You
>>> are matching the black from the handlebars all the way down to the feet of
>>> the double kickstand. Very nice.
>>>
>>> XTR drive train - very cool
>>>
>>> What is your inner chain ring count ?
>>>
>>> That cable housing you are using... is it any better than the standard
>>> Jagwire housing ?
>>>
>>> Suggest buying some helicopter tape for your drive train chain stay
>>> underneath your protective piece of rubber ?
>>> This is what I bought for my Clem. I am very happy with the product.
>>>
>>>
>>> https://www.amazon.com/ISC-Racers-Tape-HT2128-Transparent/dp/B000TPC7HU/ref=sr_1_1?crid=2NJT0GPDH55NS=ISC%2BRacers%2BTape%2BHT2128%2BISC%2BRacerstape%2BSurface%2BProtection%2BTape%2B%2F%2BHelicopter%2BTape=1695268525=isc%2Bracers%2Btape%2Bht2128%2Bisc%2Bracerstape%2Bsurface%2Bprotection%2Btape%2B%2F%2Bhelicopter%2Btape%2Caps%2C213=8-1=1
>>>
>>> Looking good on that hill overlooking the water...
>>>
>>> Kim Hetzel.
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, September 20, 2023 at 8:41:31 PM UTC-7 eliot...@gmail.com
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Much better. New Album:  https://flic.kr/s/aHBqjAVscy
>>>
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