[RBW] Re: FS: Craigslist, etc 2023

[Chung Eun Kim]

Also cross posting here.

45cm Clem Smith Jr - $1950
https://sfbay.craigslist.org/pen/bik/d/san-mateo-rivendell-clem-smith-jr/7695219731.html


On Wednesday, December 13, 2023 at 1:06:51 PM UTC-8 Josh C wrote:

> Sam 56cm just outside Asheville 
>
> https://asheville.craigslist.org/bik/d/hendersonville-sell-or-trade-rivendell/7696749429.html
>
> On Wednesday, December 13, 2023 at 4:05:09 PM UTC-5 Josh C wrote:
>
>> Roadini 54m FF + in OH
>> $1200 +
>>
>> https://cincinnati.craigslist.org/bik/d/mason-rivendell-roadini-frameset-new/7696448569.html
>>
>> On Monday, December 4, 2023 at 5:44:16 PM UTC-5 Philip Williamson wrote:
>>
>>> 60cm Simpleone frameset - $600 - Bikelist.com - 
>>>
>>> https://bikelist.com/listings/60cm-rivendell-simple-one-frame-set-368513588
>>>
>>> 62cm Quickbeam bike - $1100 - Facebook group
>>>  Look at this post on Facebook 
>>> https://www.facebook.com/groups/3127504017358010/permalink/6601091443332566/?mibextid=S66gvF
>>>
>>> Philip
>>> No connections to the sellers
>>>
>>> On Monday, April 24, 2023 at 8:09:26 AM UTC-7 JAS wrote:
>>>
 Roadini, 61cm
 $2400, Orange!
 Seattle, WA

 https://seattle.craigslist.org/see/bik/d/seattle-large-road-bike-rivendell/7611983345.html

 Romulus, 24"
 $850
 Bellingham, WA

 https://bellingham.craigslist.org/bik/d/bellingham-rivendell-romulus/7613561566.html

 Legolas, 59cm
 $3400
 Portland, OR area

 https://portland.craigslist.org/mlt/bik/d/portland-rivendell-legolas-59cm/7612121082.html

 Atlantis, 61cm
 $2500
 Port Townsend, WA

 https://olympic.craigslist.org/bik/d/nordland-rivendell-atlantis-61cm/7606421089.html

 Appaloosa, 56cm
 $2000
 Portland, OR

 https://portland.craigslist.org/mlt/bik/d/portland-rivendell-joe-appaloosa/7610380104.html

>>>

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[RBW] FS: Brooks B68, Paul Cantis, DA Barcons, Gravelkings, Nitto Stem, Tektro Levers

[Chris Halasz]

In an effort to clear out some space in storage: 

*Brooks B68*, Brown - $120 

*Paul Touring Cantis* Silver - $90/set (two sets) 

*Shimano Dura-Ace* 9-Speed Barcons - $80 

*Gravelking SS* 650b x 48mm black (set) - $50 

*Nitto UI-5GX hreadless stem* 12cm 7deg silver 1-1/8 25.4mm t - $40 

*Tektro Drop Bar Brake Levers* (set) - $30 


Photos here: 

https://www.flickr.com/photos/sea-fisherman/albums/72177720313362957/with/53397069665


Will split most efficiently packed USPS shipping from Santa Barbara, CA


If interested, please do not attempt PayPal transactions without verifying 
my account ID! 


Thanks, 


Chris 

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[RBW] Re: When were butterscotch Appaloosas made?

[Ryan]

2015 or 2016 

On Wednesday, December 13, 2023 at 8:10:35 PM UTC-6 Eric Grim wrote:

> Does anyone remember, in what year (or years) were butterscotch-colored 
> Appaloosas made?  The 2018 frames catalog lists blue and silver ones.  The 
> website presently offers them in purple and olive.  Mine's butterscotch, 
> but I don't remember when I bought it.  Pre-pandemic, I think it was . . .
>
> Thanks in advance for any hints.
>
> Eric Grim (Spokane, just a little ways North of the Palouse)
>

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[RBW] When were butterscotch Appaloosas made?

[Eric Grim]

Does anyone remember, in what year (or years) were butterscotch-colored 
Appaloosas made?  The 2018 frames catalog lists blue and silver ones.  The 
website presently offers them in purple and olive.  Mine's butterscotch, 
but I don't remember when I bought it.  Pre-pandemic, I think it was . . .

Thanks in advance for any hints.

Eric Grim (Spokane, just a little ways North of the Palouse)

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[RBW] Re: XL Bruce Gordon BLT, MUSA racks, XTR!

[saintruggler]

Update: Frame/fork (with VP Modus headset) + front and rear racks now 
available for $900 shipped CONUS.

I'm planning to keep the other parts, since no one nabbed the complete 
build.

On Friday, December 8, 2023 at 12:06:29 PM UTC-8 saintruggler wrote:

> Cross-post with i-bob.
>
> The sun came out for the first time in more than a week, so I took some 
> photos and a quick video so folks can see the general condition of my Bruce 
> Gordon BLT: https://photos.app.goo.gl/8ywXDsYQ14QrEFd78. 
>
> The bike is in fantastic shape, and I tried to show any signs of beausage 
> and wear from bags and panniers, particularly on the fork blades. 
>
> I've received more than a few inquiries, but no serious offers yet. Hit me 
> up if you have questions, or to request a shipping quote.
>
> -Eric
>
> On Saturday, December 2, 2023 at 6:11:02 PM UTC-8 saintruggler wrote:
>
>> Update to clarify photos: Yes, those are 48mm Soma Shikoro tires in the 
>> earlier Bullmoose iteration. I still have them and would swap out for the 
>> Rock ‘n Roads if desired. No, the Bullmoose bars are sold and no longer 
>> available. See the last couple of photos for current build.
>>
>> And here are some detail photos of the racks alone: 
>> https://photos.app.goo.gl/CGtfU71uhkEvataf9
>>
>> There is some deterioration of the BG sticker on the rear rack. 
>> Otherwise, they are excellent condition thanks to a durable Smurf blue 
>> powdercoat!
>>
>> On Dec 2, 2023, at 2:10 PM, Eric M Cardella  wrote:
>>
>> Winter sorting and garage cleaning has me thinking about (n-1)+1. 
>>
>>
>> *Short version:* Asking $1,300 plus shipping from Oregon for my 
>> Taiwan-built Bruce Gordon BLT in battleship gray, to be sold as pictured as 
>> a complete bike with BG racks (made in Petaluma, CA), or make me an offer 
>> on the F/F/HS+BB plus racks. Individual parts will not be sold separately 
>> at this time.
>>
>> Photos: https://photos.app.goo.gl/xvrNFrjAgx55BBqj8
>>
>> Build specs include 36-hole Velocity/XT wheels, 700x43 Rock ‘n Road tires 
>> (or swap for Schwalbe Marathons) and SKS plastic fenders, XTR V-brakes and 
>> 3x9 mech, Nitto S65 seatpost, Sachs triple 24/36/48 crankset with 11-34t 
>> XTR cassette. Cockpit consists of long pull Dia-Compe levers, Dura-Ace 
>> 9-speed bar-end shifters, and a 52cm Nitto RM013 hung on 80mm Nitto 
>> DirtDrop stem. The racks belong on this frame and will be sold with it. I 
>> will also keep my little bags, phone mount, pedals, Crane bell and Brooks 
>> saddle, please and thank you.
>>
>> *Long version:* observant Listmembers will note that I posted this bike 
>> for sale back in 2021 when it was built up with a Nitto Bullmoose bar (aka, 
>> “Bruce the Moose”), as can be seen in the photostream above. I got cold 
>> feet then and decided to re-unbuild it as a drop bar touring bike again, as 
>> seen in the last few photos. I am the original owner and have taken this 
>> bike on 3 weeklong tours and countless road and mixed terrain gravel rides 
>> since 2010. 
>>
>> This bike was always stored indoors, has never been wrecked or dropped, 
>> and there is no more than the usual beausage you might expect from a bike 
>> that got well loved and ridden over the past 13 years. The bike will be 
>> cleaned and thoroughly photographed prior to shipping. It’s cold and wet 
>> out today, hence the quick photo shoot (with rear rack not installed but 
>> just perched on the rear wheel).
>>
>> PM me if you are serious and need more details. Geometry chart is in the 
>> photos. The is the largest sized frame (56cm), which in Gordon’s universe 
>> equates to ~61cm or XL, suitable for a tall rider. I will say it did feel a 
>> bit smaller with a swept back bar, but you want to have at least 32” inseam 
>> to straddle this iron horse.
>>
>> Eric
>>
>>

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Re: [RBW] Re: Studs for Winter Riding?

[Will Boericke]

+1.  You should see the state of the Raleigh (Carleton) Gran Prix that
wears the studs in my stable.  Lots o' rust.  Sacrificial frame.

Will near Boston

On Wed, Dec 13, 2023, 5:46 PM Julian Westerhout 
wrote:

> I'm impressed and/or depressed at the sight of lovely Hunqs being ridden
> in snow and ice.  In the middle of Illinois we get snow and ice but always
> accompanied by lots of road salt. I commute in those conditions on an old
> Schwinn High Sierra set up as a 1 x 6 with Marathon winter tires with studs
> -- and stop only when I have far better traction than the cars (that's when
> i fear being squashed by a sliding SUV- on those rare days I'll take the
> bus).   The horrible road salts (and my twice-a-season cleaning of the old
> Schwinn)  are slowly eating the Schwinn alive , but it is sacrificial, and
> my Rivs are not. I envy those of you who live in climes with little or no
> salt on the roads -- I remember fondly the winters in SW Colorado in the
> 1990s when I lived there -- no salt, only cinders in the corners.
>
> Julian Westerhout
> Waiting for winter to actually arrive this year in Bloomington, IL
>
>
>
> On Wednesday, December 13, 2023 at 11:18:29 AM UTC-6 Mackenzy Albright
> wrote:
>
>> John - Ive ridden extensively with both studs and regular tires through
>> severe Minnesota and Alberta winters. Back when winters had a fair amount
>> of temperature consistency I found fat MTB tires were excellent. I loved
>> when the cold weather hit -19*c and packed snow becomes hard and squeaky.
>> It's a joy to ride. Most trail riding was perfectly adequate if not
>> excellent.
>>
>> With the winters these days heavy freeze thaw as well as increased
>> cycling traffic on winter trails I found things ice up much more often.  I
>> was also commuting extensively and found the 45N kahvas to be excellent and
>> worth the money.
>>
>> Now that I'm in Vancouver I don't bother with anything but fenders. If
>> it's slippery I take the bus!
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thursday, December 7, 2023 at 10:22:53 AM UTC-8 John Rinker wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks again to all of you experienced winter riders for the
>>> illuminating discussion and worthy suggestions. One significant factor that
>>> I don't contend with anymore is the commute to work, so my winter riding is
>>> strictly for pleasure. Since most of my riding is on country gravel roads I
>>> also don't have to suffer pavement and, in Takashi's words, 'the sound like
>>> the end of the world is coming'.
>>>
>>> I've been riding with my very low-tread WTB Nano's in the packed snow
>>> and relying on the handling skills honed from over 50 years of riding. So
>>> far so good. I don't ride super fast in these conditions and whenever one
>>> of my tires tries to slip out from under me I'm able to correct and hold it
>>> together, and this always makes me laugh as though I've cheated death or
>>> something.
>>>
>>> Again, I am a believer that the right equipment makes a world of
>>> difference, but I also really appreciate Andy's reminder that there is no
>>> substitute for skillful bike handling. Combining the two is certainly the
>>> sweet spot, but for the time being, I think I will forgo the Schwalbe Ice
>>> Spikers and focus on mindful riding and practicing my winter riding skills
>>> with what I've got.
>>>
>>> I'll let you know if I end up knocking out my front teeth.
>>>
>>> Cheers, John
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, December 6, 2023 at 7:02:16 AM UTC-8 Marc Irwin wrote:
>>>
 I've used both Nokian  and Schwalbe Marathon Winter on my Hunq.  I
 prefer the Schwalbe.

 Marc[image: 1213150841_05-SNOW.gif]

 On Sunday, December 3, 2023 at 8:34:32 PM UTC-5 John Rinker wrote:

> Went for a ride in snow today and had a blast! I also slipped around a
> little bit as I tried to follow the packed snow of tire tracks. Got me
> thinking about studded tires. I've never ridden them before and know
> nothing about them.
>
> Do any of you fine folks with more experience in such matters than me
> have any recommendations for studded tires for my Hunq?
>
> Cheers, John
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[RBW] Re: Studs for Winter Riding?

[Julian Westerhout]

I'm impressed and/or depressed at the sight of lovely Hunqs being ridden in 
snow and ice.  In the middle of Illinois we get snow and ice but always 
accompanied by lots of road salt. I commute in those conditions on an old 
Schwinn High Sierra set up as a 1 x 6 with Marathon winter tires with studs 
-- and stop only when I have far better traction than the cars (that's when 
i fear being squashed by a sliding SUV- on those rare days I'll take the 
bus).   The horrible road salts (and my twice-a-season cleaning of the old 
Schwinn)  are slowly eating the Schwinn alive , but it is sacrificial, and 
my Rivs are not. I envy those of you who live in climes with little or no 
salt on the roads -- I remember fondly the winters in SW Colorado in the 
1990s when I lived there -- no salt, only cinders in the corners. 

Julian Westerhout
Waiting for winter to actually arrive this year in Bloomington, IL 



On Wednesday, December 13, 2023 at 11:18:29 AM UTC-6 Mackenzy Albright 
wrote:

> John - Ive ridden extensively with both studs and regular tires through 
> severe Minnesota and Alberta winters. Back when winters had a fair amount 
> of temperature consistency I found fat MTB tires were excellent. I loved 
> when the cold weather hit -19*c and packed snow becomes hard and squeaky. 
> It's a joy to ride. Most trail riding was perfectly adequate if not 
> excellent. 
>
> With the winters these days heavy freeze thaw as well as increased cycling 
> traffic on winter trails I found things ice up much more often.  I was also 
> commuting extensively and found the 45N kahvas to be excellent and worth 
> the money. 
>
> Now that I'm in Vancouver I don't bother with anything but fenders. If 
> it's slippery I take the bus!
>
>
>
> On Thursday, December 7, 2023 at 10:22:53 AM UTC-8 John Rinker wrote:
>
>> Thanks again to all of you experienced winter riders for the illuminating 
>> discussion and worthy suggestions. One significant factor that I don't 
>> contend with anymore is the commute to work, so my winter riding is 
>> strictly for pleasure. Since most of my riding is on country gravel roads I 
>> also don't have to suffer pavement and, in Takashi's words, 'the sound like 
>> the end of the world is coming'. 
>>
>> I've been riding with my very low-tread WTB Nano's in the packed snow and 
>> relying on the handling skills honed from over 50 years of riding. So far 
>> so good. I don't ride super fast in these conditions and whenever one of my 
>> tires tries to slip out from under me I'm able to correct and hold it 
>> together, and this always makes me laugh as though I've cheated death or 
>> something. 
>>
>> Again, I am a believer that the right equipment makes a world of 
>> difference, but I also really appreciate Andy's reminder that there is no 
>> substitute for skillful bike handling. Combining the two is certainly the 
>> sweet spot, but for the time being, I think I will forgo the Schwalbe Ice 
>> Spikers and focus on mindful riding and practicing my winter riding skills 
>> with what I've got. 
>>
>> I'll let you know if I end up knocking out my front teeth. 
>>
>> Cheers, John
>>
>> On Wednesday, December 6, 2023 at 7:02:16 AM UTC-8 Marc Irwin wrote:
>>
>>> I've used both Nokian  and Schwalbe Marathon Winter on my Hunq.  I 
>>> prefer the Schwalbe.
>>>
>>> Marc[image: 1213150841_05-SNOW.gif]
>>>
>>> On Sunday, December 3, 2023 at 8:34:32 PM UTC-5 John Rinker wrote:
>>>
 Went for a ride in snow today and had a blast! I also slipped around a 
 little bit as I tried to follow the packed snow of tire tracks. Got me 
 thinking about studded tires. I've never ridden them before and know 
 nothing about them. 

 Do any of you fine folks with more experience in such matters than me 
 have any recommendations for studded tires for my Hunq?

 Cheers, John

>>>

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[RBW] Re: VBC chainring swap?

[saintruggler]

PM sent.

On Wednesday, December 13, 2023 at 1:16:43 PM UTC-8 Michael Baquerizo wrote:

>
> hi all - i took my VBC chainrings off my appaloosa and theyre going on to 
> a bob jackson audax frame that has a braze on for front derailleur, ie i 
> need to use a certain size ring to get my front derailleur to work. 
> thinking anyhting from 46-50 would be ideal for the big ring, and 36-38 or 
> so for the small ring? Mine is a 38 / 24
>
> TLDR I'd like to trade my not really used so much (i dunno, 200 miles 
> MAX?) 38/24 for a bigger set, 46-50/36-38, give or take. 
>
> not sure why i can't get the photo to work but shows some anodizing loss 
> but no change to shape, shark finning, etc. 
>
>
>
>
>

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[RBW] VBC chainring swap?

[Michael Baquerizo]

hi all - i took my VBC chainrings off my appaloosa and theyre going on to a 
bob jackson audax frame that has a braze on for front derailleur, ie i need 
to use a certain size ring to get my front derailleur to work. thinking 
anyhting from 46-50 would be ideal for the big ring, and 36-38 or so for 
the small ring? Mine is a 38 / 24

TLDR I'd like to trade my not really used so much (i dunno, 200 miles MAX?) 
38/24 for a bigger set, 46-50/36-38, give or take. 

not sure why i can't get the photo to work but shows some anodizing loss 
but no change to shape, shark finning, etc. 




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[RBW] Re: FS: Craigslist, etc 2023

[Josh C]

Sam 56cm just outside Asheville 
https://asheville.craigslist.org/bik/d/hendersonville-sell-or-trade-rivendell/7696749429.html

On Wednesday, December 13, 2023 at 4:05:09 PM UTC-5 Josh C wrote:

> Roadini 54m FF + in OH
> $1200 +
>
> https://cincinnati.craigslist.org/bik/d/mason-rivendell-roadini-frameset-new/7696448569.html
>
> On Monday, December 4, 2023 at 5:44:16 PM UTC-5 Philip Williamson wrote:
>
>> 60cm Simpleone frameset - $600 - Bikelist.com - 
>>
>> https://bikelist.com/listings/60cm-rivendell-simple-one-frame-set-368513588
>>
>> 62cm Quickbeam bike - $1100 - Facebook group
>>  Look at this post on Facebook 
>> https://www.facebook.com/groups/3127504017358010/permalink/6601091443332566/?mibextid=S66gvF
>>
>> Philip
>> No connections to the sellers
>>
>> On Monday, April 24, 2023 at 8:09:26 AM UTC-7 JAS wrote:
>>
>>> Roadini, 61cm
>>> $2400, Orange!
>>> Seattle, WA
>>>
>>> https://seattle.craigslist.org/see/bik/d/seattle-large-road-bike-rivendell/7611983345.html
>>>
>>> Romulus, 24"
>>> $850
>>> Bellingham, WA
>>>
>>> https://bellingham.craigslist.org/bik/d/bellingham-rivendell-romulus/7613561566.html
>>>
>>> Legolas, 59cm
>>> $3400
>>> Portland, OR area
>>>
>>> https://portland.craigslist.org/mlt/bik/d/portland-rivendell-legolas-59cm/7612121082.html
>>>
>>> Atlantis, 61cm
>>> $2500
>>> Port Townsend, WA
>>>
>>> https://olympic.craigslist.org/bik/d/nordland-rivendell-atlantis-61cm/7606421089.html
>>>
>>> Appaloosa, 56cm
>>> $2000
>>> Portland, OR
>>>
>>> https://portland.craigslist.org/mlt/bik/d/portland-rivendell-joe-appaloosa/7610380104.html
>>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: FS: Craigslist, etc 2023

[Josh C]

Roadini 54m FF + in OH
$1200 +
https://cincinnati.craigslist.org/bik/d/mason-rivendell-roadini-frameset-new/7696448569.html

On Monday, December 4, 2023 at 5:44:16 PM UTC-5 Philip Williamson wrote:

> 60cm Simpleone frameset - $600 - Bikelist.com - 
> https://bikelist.com/listings/60cm-rivendell-simple-one-frame-set-368513588
>
> 62cm Quickbeam bike - $1100 - Facebook group
>  Look at this post on Facebook 
> https://www.facebook.com/groups/3127504017358010/permalink/6601091443332566/?mibextid=S66gvF
>
> Philip
> No connections to the sellers
>
> On Monday, April 24, 2023 at 8:09:26 AM UTC-7 JAS wrote:
>
>> Roadini, 61cm
>> $2400, Orange!
>> Seattle, WA
>>
>> https://seattle.craigslist.org/see/bik/d/seattle-large-road-bike-rivendell/7611983345.html
>>
>> Romulus, 24"
>> $850
>> Bellingham, WA
>>
>> https://bellingham.craigslist.org/bik/d/bellingham-rivendell-romulus/7613561566.html
>>
>> Legolas, 59cm
>> $3400
>> Portland, OR area
>>
>> https://portland.craigslist.org/mlt/bik/d/portland-rivendell-legolas-59cm/7612121082.html
>>
>> Atlantis, 61cm
>> $2500
>> Port Townsend, WA
>>
>> https://olympic.craigslist.org/bik/d/nordland-rivendell-atlantis-61cm/7606421089.html
>>
>> Appaloosa, 56cm
>> $2000
>> Portland, OR
>>
>> https://portland.craigslist.org/mlt/bik/d/portland-rivendell-joe-appaloosa/7610380104.html
>>
>

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[RBW] Re: Opinions sought - Platypus needs wheels

[Josh C]

Good for you, love it! Good advice from the lads above. I've got a set of 
polished Quills and they are both durable and beautiful to look at. 

On Wednesday, December 13, 2023 at 12:59:54 PM UTC-5 Steve wrote:

> Thank you guys for sharing your thoughts/opinions. Definitely going with 
> DB spokes, upon your advice. 
>
> Velocity Quills and DT Swiss 350s it will be - NWD (new wheels day) coming 
> soon for me!
>
> Steve, the Lousy Poet
>
> On Monday, December 11, 2023 at 9:49:33 PM UTC-5 Ed Carolipio wrote:
>
>> Like Tim, I suggest spending the extra money on double butted spokes 
>> since you're having a custom set built. Otherwise, I like your baseline 
>> selections. 
>> On the hubs, I personally would opt for the DT Swiss 350s. IMO it's a 
>> nicer hub, easy to work on, tremendous flexibility, and gives you the 
>> option to upgrade to the higher tooth freehub ratchet.
>>
>> --Ed C.
>> Redondo Beach, CA
>> On Monday, December 11, 2023 at 6:12:42 PM UTC-8 steve...@gmail.com 
>> wrote:
>>
>>>  When I built up my Platypus this past summer I borrowed the wheels off 
>>> of another bike - now I'm ready to give the Platy her very own 650b 
>>> wheels.
>>>
>>> The build is road oriented, intended mostly for day rides and maybe some 
>>> light touring. Currently running 38mm slicks but plan to replace them with 
>>> something in the 42 - 44mm range. The bike weighs a bit under 30 lbs and 
>>> I'm about 165 lbs. 
>>>
>>> I have a wheel set cued up with Pro Wheel Builders; Velocity Quill 32 
>>> hole rims, straight gauge spokes,   and DT Swiss 350 hubs (the 2021 
>>> version). I'm also considering letting Velocity build them for me using 
>>> their Racer hubs instead of the 350s. Before I pull the trigger though I'd 
>>> love to hear what thoughts or opinions others might have.  Thanks, Steve
>>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Clean, don't toss, your dull German mirror

[Danny]

Doh! Just noticed that yours is a slotted screw in the photo, which 
reminded me that I swapped out the original screw on mine to one with a 3mm 
socket head. I don't remember if I had to replace the nut at the same time, 
so probably best to disregard my previous post and just bring the whole 
thing to the hardware store.
On Wednesday, December 13, 2023 at 2:03:53 PM UTC-6 Danny wrote:

> Hi Roberta,
>
> That screw should be an M4 x 0.7 mm pitch thread. I think ~16mm in length 
> should be adequate. Is the nut on the other side still in place?
>
> Danny
> Madison, WI
>
> On Wed, Dec 13, 2023 at 10:38 AM RichS  wrote:
>
>> Roberta, if you have a nearby hardware store, Ace or similar in scale, 
>> not the big box HD variety, they should have the same screw or a capable 
>> substitute.
>>
>> Best,
>> Rich in ATL
>>
>> On Monday, December 11, 2023 at 8:05:52 PM UTC-5 Roberta wrote:
>>
>>> Over the years, these dull.  I always thought they pitted and the lack 
>>> of clarity was too much for me.  I'd toss them and buy more.  At $30 a pop, 
>>> it was a bit much, but I like the low profile of the mirror.
>>>
>>> I went to Riv's web site to get another, saw this, tried the baking soda 
>>> with water suggestion and now the mirror reflects as good as new!
>>>
>>> From Riv's site:  " After a couple years the mirror might dull a bit, 
>>> but can be brought back to life by scrubbing it with baking soda and water, 
>>> or toothpaste."
>>>
>>> Roberta
>>>
>>> PS If anyone knows the size of this housing screw or has an extra one, 
>>> I'd like to know the size or buy the screw. 
>>>
>>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Clean, don't toss, your dull German mirror

[Danny]

Hi Roberta,

That screw should be an M4 x 0.7 mm pitch thread. I think ~16mm in length
should be adequate. Is the nut on the other side still in place?

Danny
Madison, WI

On Wed, Dec 13, 2023 at 10:38 AM RichS  wrote:

> Roberta, if you have a nearby hardware store, Ace or similar in scale, not
> the big box HD variety, they should have the same screw or a capable
> substitute.
>
> Best,
> Rich in ATL
>
> On Monday, December 11, 2023 at 8:05:52 PM UTC-5 Roberta wrote:
>
>> Over the years, these dull.  I always thought they pitted and the lack of
>> clarity was too much for me.  I'd toss them and buy more.  At $30 a pop, it
>> was a bit much, but I like the low profile of the mirror.
>>
>> I went to Riv's web site to get another, saw this, tried the baking soda
>> with water suggestion and now the mirror reflects as good as new!
>>
>> From Riv's site:  " After a couple years the mirror might dull a bit, but
>> can be brought back to life by scrubbing it with baking soda and water, or
>> toothpaste."
>>
>> Roberta
>>
>> PS If anyone knows the size of this housing screw or has an extra one,
>> I'd like to know the size or buy the screw.
>>
>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: ISO: Roadini 54 Sergio Green

[Doug H.]

That is helpful Brian. Thank you. And, nice job on the sand-stand!
Doug

On Wednesday, December 13, 2023 at 12:51:05 PM UTC-5 Brian Cunningham wrote:

> Here's a visual, if it helps, of what a 54 looks like with approx. 74cm 
> saddle height. If it's not instructive in terms of sizing, at least it can 
> show you the possibilities of creating a quasi-kickstand out of sand.
>
> Brian
>
>
> On Wednesday, December 13, 2023 at 9:18:35 AM UTC-8 Johnny Alien wrote:
>
>> It generally fits. He would be at the very top of what they suggest for 
>> that size but if going for a road fit with drops being at the top is 
>> preferable to being at the bottom. Most of their "size up" philosophy is 
>> based on upright relaxed riding.
>>
>> On Wednesday, December 13, 2023 at 9:55:30 AM UTC-5 rmro...@gmail.com 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> This is somewhat surprising as it does not seem to align with Riv’s 
>>> published size suggestions? I too am 5’10” & ride with a 72cm saddle 
>>> height. 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>> On Dec 12, 2023, at 10:14 AM, Doug H.  wrote:
>>>
>>> I had an email exchange with Will at Rivendell and he suggested a size 
>>> 50 Roadini for me. I'm 5'10" with an 83 PBH and 71.5" saddle height. Since 
>>> that size is in stock I'll probably get a frameset to build up. Thanks all.
>>>
>>> Doug
>>>
>>> On Friday, December 8, 2023 at 12:18:39 PM UTC-5 John Dewey wrote:
>>>


 On Thursday, December 7, 2023 at 5:28:34 PM UTC-8 Doug H. wrote:

 Frameset or complete would work. 
 Doug Hansford
 Athens, Ga

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[RBW] Re: Opinions sought - Platypus needs wheels

[Steve]

Thank you guys for sharing your thoughts/opinions. Definitely going with DB 
spokes, upon your advice. 

Velocity Quills and DT Swiss 350s it will be - NWD (new wheels day) coming 
soon for me!

Steve, the Lousy Poet

On Monday, December 11, 2023 at 9:49:33 PM UTC-5 Ed Carolipio wrote:

> Like Tim, I suggest spending the extra money on double butted spokes since 
> you're having a custom set built. Otherwise, I like your baseline 
> selections. 
> On the hubs, I personally would opt for the DT Swiss 350s. IMO it's a 
> nicer hub, easy to work on, tremendous flexibility, and gives you the 
> option to upgrade to the higher tooth freehub ratchet.
>
> --Ed C.
> Redondo Beach, CA
> On Monday, December 11, 2023 at 6:12:42 PM UTC-8 steve...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>>  When I built up my Platypus this past summer I borrowed the wheels off 
>> of another bike - now I'm ready to give the Platy her very own 650b 
>> wheels.
>>
>> The build is road oriented, intended mostly for day rides and maybe some 
>> light touring. Currently running 38mm slicks but plan to replace them with 
>> something in the 42 - 44mm range. The bike weighs a bit under 30 lbs and 
>> I'm about 165 lbs. 
>>
>> I have a wheel set cued up with Pro Wheel Builders; Velocity Quill 32 
>> hole rims, straight gauge spokes,   and DT Swiss 350 hubs (the 2021 
>> version). I'm also considering letting Velocity build them for me using 
>> their Racer hubs instead of the 350s. Before I pull the trigger though I'd 
>> love to hear what thoughts or opinions others might have.  Thanks, Steve
>>
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: Did anyone get one of the new Acorn Bags yesterday?

[John Dewey]

And such a sweet couple the ''Acorns' seem to be.

Jock

On Wednesday, December 13, 2023 at 8:30:20 AM UTC-8 John Dewey wrote:

> Plus one on ACORN. On all JD bikes. And they get better with age…like we 
> all wish we did. Such a nice patina they produce and plenty of room for all 
> those sandwich breaks and one of the glass-bottle Coca Colas if you’re so 
> inclined. We can pass ‘em down through the generations. 
>
> Jock
>
> On Wed, Dec 13, 2023 at 4:34 AM Jon Craig (Vendraen)  
> wrote:
>
>> My wife and I each have a "Boxy Rando" bag from back in 2016, during the 
>> time when they used snaps and didn't put their logo patch on the bags.  We 
>> love those bags, and it was time for me to get a bag for the back of my 
>> bike, instead of using my Ortlieb panniers.  So I waited for the Large 
>> Saddlebag to become available and bought one.  It arrives today!  I'm 
>> exited.
>>
>> On Tuesday, December 12, 2023 at 11:55:09 PM UTC-5 Bikie#4646 wrote:
>>
>>> Jon,
>>> I noticed that Acorn continues to modify and improve most of their bags. 
>>> The "Large" saddle bags now seem to have gone back to the drawstring inside 
>>> (instead of the recent zippers) and two leather straps to hold the flap 
>>> down (instead of the more recent single shock cord). A nice new touch (in 
>>> my opinion) is the replacement of the larger and wider side pockets with 
>>> flatter zippered pockets on the sides. 
>>>
>>> Those new flat side pockets make the bag a little more narrow and 
>>> "streamlined," even a cleaner look. I never liked the larger side pockets 
>>> on my old Carradice bags much. 
>>>
>>> Though the leather "flap" straps are a bit slower to deal with than the 
>>> single shock cord on the flap, I think they lend a nice look, dare I say 
>>> "retro'? And a bit more secure, I feel.
>>>
>>> My 2 cents. I have been a big fan of Acorn and their "MUSA cottage 
>>> industry" model. The workmanship has always been superb and pricing is 
>>> super fair.  I've probably owned more than 18 of their bags over the years. 
>>> Great folks to work with, too.
>>>
>>> Paul Germain
>>> Midlothian, Va.
>>>
>>> On Friday, December 8, 2023 at 6:43:05 AM UTC-5 modemm...@gmail.com 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 I got one of the new Acorn Bags "large saddlebags" yesterday when they 
 became available.  Did anyone else get any of the new bags?  I'm excited 
 to 
 check this one out when it arrives!
>>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: ISO: Roadini 54 Sergio Green

[Johnny Alien]

It generally fits. He would be at the very top of what they suggest for 
that size but if going for a road fit with drops being at the top is 
preferable to being at the bottom. Most of their "size up" philosophy is 
based on upright relaxed riding.

On Wednesday, December 13, 2023 at 9:55:30 AM UTC-5 rmro...@gmail.com wrote:

> This is somewhat surprising as it does not seem to align with Riv’s 
> published size suggestions? I too am 5’10” & ride with a 72cm saddle 
> height. 
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Dec 12, 2023, at 10:14 AM, Doug H.  wrote:
>
> I had an email exchange with Will at Rivendell and he suggested a size 50 
> Roadini for me. I'm 5'10" with an 83 PBH and 71.5" saddle height. Since 
> that size is in stock I'll probably get a frameset to build up. Thanks all.
>
> Doug
>
> On Friday, December 8, 2023 at 12:18:39 PM UTC-5 John Dewey wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> On Thursday, December 7, 2023 at 5:28:34 PM UTC-8 Doug H. wrote:
>>
>> Frameset or complete would work. 
>> Doug Hansford
>> Athens, Ga
>>
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[RBW] Re: Studs for Winter Riding?

[Mackenzy Albright]

John - Ive ridden extensively with both studs and regular tires through 
severe Minnesota and Alberta winters. Back when winters had a fair amount 
of temperature consistency I found fat MTB tires were excellent. I loved 
when the cold weather hit -19*c and packed snow becomes hard and squeaky. 
It's a joy to ride. Most trail riding was perfectly adequate if not 
excellent. 

With the winters these days heavy freeze thaw as well as increased cycling 
traffic on winter trails I found things ice up much more often.  I was also 
commuting extensively and found the 45N kahvas to be excellent and worth 
the money. 

Now that I'm in Vancouver I don't bother with anything but fenders. If it's 
slippery I take the bus!



On Thursday, December 7, 2023 at 10:22:53 AM UTC-8 John Rinker wrote:

> Thanks again to all of you experienced winter riders for the illuminating 
> discussion and worthy suggestions. One significant factor that I don't 
> contend with anymore is the commute to work, so my winter riding is 
> strictly for pleasure. Since most of my riding is on country gravel roads I 
> also don't have to suffer pavement and, in Takashi's words, 'the sound like 
> the end of the world is coming'. 
>
> I've been riding with my very low-tread WTB Nano's in the packed snow and 
> relying on the handling skills honed from over 50 years of riding. So far 
> so good. I don't ride super fast in these conditions and whenever one of my 
> tires tries to slip out from under me I'm able to correct and hold it 
> together, and this always makes me laugh as though I've cheated death or 
> something. 
>
> Again, I am a believer that the right equipment makes a world of 
> difference, but I also really appreciate Andy's reminder that there is no 
> substitute for skillful bike handling. Combining the two is certainly the 
> sweet spot, but for the time being, I think I will forgo the Schwalbe Ice 
> Spikers and focus on mindful riding and practicing my winter riding skills 
> with what I've got. 
>
> I'll let you know if I end up knocking out my front teeth. 
>
> Cheers, John
>
> On Wednesday, December 6, 2023 at 7:02:16 AM UTC-8 Marc Irwin wrote:
>
>> I've used both Nokian  and Schwalbe Marathon Winter on my Hunq.  I prefer 
>> the Schwalbe.
>>
>> Marc[image: 1213150841_05-SNOW.gif]
>>
>> On Sunday, December 3, 2023 at 8:34:32 PM UTC-5 John Rinker wrote:
>>
>>> Went for a ride in snow today and had a blast! I also slipped around a 
>>> little bit as I tried to follow the packed snow of tire tracks. Got me 
>>> thinking about studded tires. I've never ridden them before and know 
>>> nothing about them. 
>>>
>>> Do any of you fine folks with more experience in such matters than me 
>>> have any recommendations for studded tires for my Hunq?
>>>
>>> Cheers, John
>>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: Clean, don't toss, your dull German mirror

[RichS]

Roberta, if you have a nearby hardware store, Ace or similar in scale, not 
the big box HD variety, they should have the same screw or a capable 
substitute.

Best,
Rich in ATL

On Monday, December 11, 2023 at 8:05:52 PM UTC-5 Roberta wrote:

> Over the years, these dull.  I always thought they pitted and the lack of 
> clarity was too much for me.  I'd toss them and buy more.  At $30 a pop, it 
> was a bit much, but I like the low profile of the mirror.
>
> I went to Riv's web site to get another, saw this, tried the baking soda 
> with water suggestion and now the mirror reflects as good as new!
>
> From Riv's site:  " After a couple years the mirror might dull a bit, but 
> can be brought back to life by scrubbing it with baking soda and water, or 
> toothpaste."
>
> Roberta
>
> PS If anyone knows the size of this housing screw or has an extra one, I'd 
> like to know the size or buy the screw. 
>
>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Did anyone get one of the new Acorn Bags yesterday?

[John Dewey]

Plus one on ACORN. On all JD bikes. And they get better with age…like we
all wish we did. Such a nice patina they produce and plenty of room for all
those sandwich breaks and one of the glass-bottle Coca Colas if you’re so
inclined. We can pass ‘em down through the generations.

Jock

On Wed, Dec 13, 2023 at 4:34 AM Jon Craig (Vendraen) 
wrote:

> My wife and I each have a "Boxy Rando" bag from back in 2016, during the
> time when they used snaps and didn't put their logo patch on the bags.  We
> love those bags, and it was time for me to get a bag for the back of my
> bike, instead of using my Ortlieb panniers.  So I waited for the Large
> Saddlebag to become available and bought one.  It arrives today!  I'm
> exited.
>
> On Tuesday, December 12, 2023 at 11:55:09 PM UTC-5 Bikie#4646 wrote:
>
>> Jon,
>> I noticed that Acorn continues to modify and improve most of their bags.
>> The "Large" saddle bags now seem to have gone back to the drawstring inside
>> (instead of the recent zippers) and two leather straps to hold the flap
>> down (instead of the more recent single shock cord). A nice new touch (in
>> my opinion) is the replacement of the larger and wider side pockets with
>> flatter zippered pockets on the sides.
>>
>> Those new flat side pockets make the bag a little more narrow and
>> "streamlined," even a cleaner look. I never liked the larger side pockets
>> on my old Carradice bags much.
>>
>> Though the leather "flap" straps are a bit slower to deal with than the
>> single shock cord on the flap, I think they lend a nice look, dare I say
>> "retro'? And a bit more secure, I feel.
>>
>> My 2 cents. I have been a big fan of Acorn and their "MUSA cottage
>> industry" model. The workmanship has always been superb and pricing is
>> super fair.  I've probably owned more than 18 of their bags over the years.
>> Great folks to work with, too.
>>
>> Paul Germain
>> Midlothian, Va.
>>
>> On Friday, December 8, 2023 at 6:43:05 AM UTC-5 modemm...@gmail.com
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I got one of the new Acorn Bags "large saddlebags" yesterday when they
>>> became available.  Did anyone else get any of the new bags?  I'm excited to
>>> check this one out when it arrives!
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[RBW] Re: WTB: Susie L or XL Frame

[Joe Bernard]

Check SF Bay Area Craigslist, there's a Large Susie frame and Gus complete 
there. 

Joe "you might want to tell people where you're located" Bernard
Lake County CA. 

On Monday, December 11, 2023 at 6:21:23 PM UTC-8 Ben Hannon wrote:

> Hello!
>
> I know that they're coming out with a lugged Susie next year, but wanted 
> to see if anyone was hanging onto an older frame they were looking to part 
> with?
>
> Thanks,
> Ben
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Re: [RBW] Re: ISO: Roadini 54 Sergio Green

[Richard Rose]

This is somewhat surprising as it does not seem to align with Riv’s published size suggestions? I too am 5’10” & ride with a 72cm saddle height. Sent from my iPhoneOn Dec 12, 2023, at 10:14 AM, Doug H.  wrote:I had an email exchange with Will at Rivendell and he suggested a size 50 Roadini for me. I'm 5'10" with an 83 PBH and 71.5" saddle height. Since that size is in stock I'll probably get a frameset to build up. Thanks all.DougOn Friday, December 8, 2023 at 12:18:39 PM UTC-5 John Dewey wrote:On Thursday, December 7, 2023 at 5:28:34 PM UTC-8 Doug H. wrote:Frameset or complete would work. Doug HansfordAthens, Ga



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[RBW] Re: Did anyone get one of the new Acorn Bags yesterday?

[Jon Craig (Vendraen)]

My wife and I each have a "Boxy Rando" bag from back in 2016, during the 
time when they used snaps and didn't put their logo patch on the bags.  We 
love those bags, and it was time for me to get a bag for the back of my 
bike, instead of using my Ortlieb panniers.  So I waited for the Large 
Saddlebag to become available and bought one.  It arrives today!  I'm 
exited.

On Tuesday, December 12, 2023 at 11:55:09 PM UTC-5 Bikie#4646 wrote:

> Jon,
> I noticed that Acorn continues to modify and improve most of their bags. 
> The "Large" saddle bags now seem to have gone back to the drawstring inside 
> (instead of the recent zippers) and two leather straps to hold the flap 
> down (instead of the more recent single shock cord). A nice new touch (in 
> my opinion) is the replacement of the larger and wider side pockets with 
> flatter zippered pockets on the sides. 
>
> Those new flat side pockets make the bag a little more narrow and 
> "streamlined," even a cleaner look. I never liked the larger side pockets 
> on my old Carradice bags much. 
>
> Though the leather "flap" straps are a bit slower to deal with than the 
> single shock cord on the flap, I think they lend a nice look, dare I say 
> "retro'? And a bit more secure, I feel.
>
> My 2 cents. I have been a big fan of Acorn and their "MUSA cottage 
> industry" model. The workmanship has always been superb and pricing is 
> super fair.  I've probably owned more than 18 of their bags over the years. 
> Great folks to work with, too.
>
> Paul Germain
> Midlothian, Va.
>
> On Friday, December 8, 2023 at 6:43:05 AM UTC-5 modemm...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> I got one of the new Acorn Bags "large saddlebags" yesterday when they 
>> became available.  Did anyone else get any of the new bags?  I'm excited to 
>> check this one out when it arrives!
>
>

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[RBW] Re: WTB: Susie L or XL Frame

[Garth]

I have a burnt orange Susie XL that's new in the box from the first 
manufacturing batch that I'll consider selling. I'm not familiar with who 
you are however as you have no posting history here and this is your only 
posting. You can contact me offlist and I'd appreciate if you can provide 
some kind of reference so I know you're genuinely interested in riding the 
frame yourself. I'm certainly okay with speaking on the phone ! 

On Monday, December 11, 2023 at 9:21:23 PM UTC-5 Ben Hannon wrote:

> Hello!
>
> I know that they're coming out with a lugged Susie next year, but wanted 
> to see if anyone was hanging onto an older frame they were looking to part 
> with?
>
> Thanks,
> Ben
>

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