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Re: [RBW] OK to post non Rivendell bikes for sale here?

2024-01-17 Thread Josh C

I agree. It's cool that you're digging the Riv and also I'm sure there are 
folks on here that ride full squish MTBs, carbon road bikes, and all things 
in between. Not sure about the rules, but I say go for it. Not sure you'll 
have much success, but why not. 

On Wednesday, January 17, 2024 at 6:20:28 PM UTC-5 Bill Lindsay wrote:

> There definitely are plenty of big-tent cyclists on this group, and there 
> is no house rule against selling non-Rivendells.  I think you should list 
> your Ibis.  Ibis has a ton of retro-chic cache even if that particular 
> model is super contemporary.  I was pricing out an Ibis Hakka just the 
> other day...
>
> Bill Lindsay
> El Cerrito, CA
>
> On Wednesday, January 17, 2024 at 2:55:03 PM UTC-8 rmro...@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>
>> I just thought perhaps there might be others here  (actually I am certain 
>> of it) who’s cycling world includes non Rivendell bikes. But I get it.
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Jan 17, 2024, at 3:17 PM, Armand Kizirian  
>> wrote:
>>
>> Even if you could, who's going to buy that on here? ;) 
>>
>>
>> On Wednesday, January 17, 2024 at 6:56:02 AM UTC-8 steve...@gmail.com 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> RMRose -  a Gus has taken the place of your  Ibis Mojo 3.  I love it - 
>>> good on you!   You might try listing the Ibis on 
>>> BoingBoingShredSleds.com   (I just made that up, please forgive my warped 
>>> attempt at humor)  
>>>
>>> Seriously though, what could be more Rivendellian than choosing a Clem 
>>> for mountain biking?
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, January 16, 2024 at 11:54:01 PM UTC-5 CMR wrote:
>>>
 Great bike, unfortunately off-topic, I can't imagine Grant on a carbon 
 full-suspension!

 On Tuesday, January 16, 2024 at 3:05:43 PM UTC-8 rmro...@gmail.com 
 wrote:

> 2019 Ibis Mojo 3, size large. Fits more like a medium. I am 5’10”. Riv 
> content? My Gus has taken it’s place.
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Jan 16, 2024, at 4:38 PM, Steve  wrote:
>
> You've piqued my curiosity - what's the bike?
>
> Steve
>
> On Tuesday, January 16, 2024 at 12:57:17 PM UTC-5 Patrick Moore wrote:
>
>> The moderator and others can correct me, but I think that if the bike 
>> in question is relatively aligned with Rivendell tastes and might appeal 
>> to 
>> list members -- if it's generally Rivendellian in taste -- it will be 
>> fine. 
>> I would not post a FS for a modern CF road bike or downhill mountain 
>> bike 
>> here.
>>
>> On Tue, Jan 16, 2024 at 10:41 AM Richard Rose  
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I am still new here & do not want to violate an rules. But, I do 
>>> have a bicycle that I would like to sell and thought others here might 
>>> be 
>>> interested. I will not post here until I hear if it is acceptable. 
>>> Thanks! 
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Re: [RBW] Re: New Jewelry for my Platypus

2024-01-17 Thread Leah Peterson

Bill, how’d you know?! Get out of my head! 藍On Jan 17, 2024, at 7:23 PM, Bill Lindsay wrote:Hi Paul? It's me, Leah. Listen, I just mailed you my Nitto rack struts and Chris King headset cups. They just aren't cutting it being aluminum and silver. Could you be a lamb andBL in ECOn Wednesday, January 17, 2024 at 1:18:52 PM UTC-8 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! wrote:I finally got the call to pick up the racing Platypus today! I don’t think the photos I took can capture how great the Paul stuff looks. The mechanics all swooned as the bike was wheeled out to the showroom. It just looks like it was meant to have these brakes and in this rose color.On Jan 15, 2024, at 11:41 PM, Brenton Eastman wrote:the pencil gifting warms my heart!! thanks for sharingOn Sunday, January 14, 2024 at 1:38:46 PM UTC-8 Josh C wrote:Love it!On Saturday, January 13, 2024 at 4:10:31 PM UTC-5 Dorothy C wrote:Congratulations Leah. Now you have a one of a kind brake set on a custom color Platy. On Friday, January 12, 2024 at 10:10:51 PM UTC-8 krhe...@gmail.com wrote:@Leah -I am certain with your new anodized bicycle parts will make you smile loudly with a lot of joy making you go faster than ever before.Enjoy !Kim Hetzel enjoying my blue 52cm Clem with a lot of joy and smiles. On Friday, January 12, 2024 at 3:40:37 PM UTC-8 ascpgh wrote:I had the pleasure to meet and converse with Paul at the Philly Bike Expo. His approachability, perspective and overall friendliness adds to the MUSA points and makes me a fan of his parts any time I can use them. I think I'm dearly holding on to my orange Rambouillet because of the center bolt Racer brakes I added years ago to make room for more fender and tire.Name that bike "Varod". Andy Cheatham PittsburghOn Thursday, January 11, 2024 at 8:28:30 PM UTC-5 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! wrote:I have never had Paul anything. I’ve had whatever brakes and levers came with my bikes and didn’t think any more about it. I did get my VO brake levers anodized, but that batch of rose pink ano faded freakishly fast and everything was silver 4 months later. But I’m giving it another chance. Everyone talks about Paul, and Paul sometimes offers their parts in pretty, anodized colors, but currently, they do not. I emailed the company, asking if they happened to have any of their pink levers laying around that they would be willing to sell me. I got an email back from Paul, like THE Paul, who directed me to an employee I won’t name here. He and I got in contact and he was so fun, right from the start. We chatted and he looked at my bikes (I sent him my pics via email) and we made a plan. We colored it all. The bolts, the brake body, the levers, the barrel adjustors ALL of it. The parts came in 3 boxes, plus one extra little envelope. The envelope had a small personalized gift from my new friend at Paul, just because, with a handwritten note in the prettiest handwriting I’ve ever seen. Swoon! I opened the first box and it was wrapped like origami inside. I uncovered the first gorgeous pieces and the breath left my body. So beautiful. Quality even a novice can’t miss. Just what I wanted. Rich, rose color. I would need to be with bike people to get the full joy out of this experience. My bike shop knows about Paul Components. A blizzard is on its way to Michigan and I knew my shop would not be busy. I put the pieces back in the box, loaded the boxes and my bike in the van and drove to the shop. I came in and there were 4 mechanics and zero customers. “Guys!” I said, “I have a fun project for us to do, and I can’t do it without you! Who wants to see what is in these boxes?” So there we were on company time, hovering over these immaculate little parcels, oohing and aahhing. There was extra swag in there, stuff I had never seen. “What’s this?” I asked, holding up a flat, wooden thing with Paul emblems. “It’s a carpenter’s pencil,” said the mechanic. I gave it to him.I left the bike with them and I should have it in the next couple/few days, depending on how long the blizzard rages for. Not that I’ll get to ride and try those beautiful Paul parts out; we are getting up to a foot of snow! For now they are only a visual treat. I can’t even imagine how enamored I will be when I get to actually USE the brakes. And what nice people. I was not expecting them to be so personable! I have heard they are a small operation, but they are famous in their own right - celebrity machinists, really - yet so kind to a layperson like me.Here’s the photo I got before the parts shipped. “Whatcha think?” he asked. Oh, he knew. He knew he knocked it straight outta the park.Leah

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Re: [RBW] Re: New Jewelry for my Platypus

2024-01-17 Thread Steve

I've been checking this thread daily waiting for these pics.  Very Nice!!! 
 You have put together (I'd even say curated) a standout bike. Well done 
Leah! 

-- when the deep freeze finally thaws and you've had a chance to log a few 
miles on the beauty I'd love to hear your review of the Paul Motolites. 

Steve in Asheville

On Wednesday, January 17, 2024 at 6:27:46 PM UTC-5 Ryan wrote:

> Approve!!!it's a stunner
>
> On Wednesday, January 17, 2024 at 4:44:01 PM UTC-6 JAS wrote:
>
>> Now you've done it!  That's the fanciest Platy I've ever seen and now 
>> we're all going to be dreaming about how to bedeck our own with jewels.  
>> Just beautiful, Leah.  You'll go faster now too, I'm sure of it!
>>
>> On Wednesday, January 17, 2024 at 1:42:14 PM UTC-8 tio ryan wrote:
>>
>>> What a lovely bicycle! Appreciate the close up photos with the snowy 
>>> backdrop — I can't get enough 
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, January 17, 2024 at 4:33:16 PM UTC-5 SallyG wrote:
>>>
 Just beautiful, Leah; thanks for sharing!!

 On Wed, Jan 17, 2024 at 1:18 PM Leah Peterson  
 wrote:

> I finally got the call to pick up the racing Platypus today! I don’t 
> think the photos I took can capture how great the Paul stuff looks. The 
> mechanics all swooned as the bike was wheeled out to the showroom. It 
> just 
> looks like it was meant to have these brakes and in this rose color.
>
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>
> On Jan 15, 2024, at 11:41 PM, Brenton Eastman  
> wrote:
>
> the pencil gifting warms my heart!! thanks for sharing
>
> On Sunday, January 14, 2024 at 1:38:46 PM UTC-8 Josh C wrote:
>
>> Love it!
>>
>> On Saturday, January 13, 2024 at 4:10:31 PM UTC-5 Dorothy C wrote:
>>
>>> Congratulations Leah. Now you have a one of a kind brake set on a 
>>> custom color Platy. 
>>>
>>> On Friday, January 12, 2024 at 10:10:51 PM UTC-8 krhe...@gmail.com 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 @Leah -

 I am certain with your new anodized bicycle parts will make you 
 smile loudly with a lot of joy making you go faster than ever before.

 Enjoy !

 Kim Hetzel enjoying my blue 52cm Clem with a lot of joy and smiles. 

 On Friday, January 12, 2024 at 3:40:37 PM UTC-8 ascpgh wrote:

> I had the pleasure to meet and converse with Paul at the Philly 
> Bike Expo. His approachability, perspective and overall friendliness 
> adds 
> to the MUSA points and makes me a fan of his parts any time I can use 
> them. 
> I think I'm dearly holding on to my orange Rambouillet because of the 
> center bolt Racer brakes I added years ago to make room for more 
> fender and 
> tire.
>
> Name that bike "Varod". 
>
> Andy Cheatham 
> Pittsburgh
>
> On Thursday, January 11, 2024 at 8:28:30 PM UTC-5 Bicycle Belle 
> Ding Ding! wrote:
>
>> I have never had Paul anything. I’ve had whatever brakes and 
>> levers came with my bikes and didn’t think any more about it. I did 
>> get my 
>> VO brake levers anodized, but that batch of rose pink ano faded 
>> freakishly 
>> fast and everything was silver 4 months later. 
>>
>> But I’m giving it another chance. Everyone talks about Paul, and 
>> Paul sometimes offers their parts in pretty, anodized colors, but 
>> currently, they do not. I emailed the company, asking if they 
>> happened to 
>> have any of their pink levers laying around that they would be 
>> willing to 
>> sell me. I got an email back from Paul, like THE Paul, who directed 
>> me to 
>> an employee I won’t name here. He and I got in contact and he was so 
>> fun, 
>> right from the start. We chatted and he looked at my bikes (I sent 
>> him my 
>> pics via email) and we made a plan. 
>>
>> We colored it all. 
>>
>> The bolts, the brake body, the levers, the barrel adjustors ALL 
>> of it. 
>>
>> The parts came in 3 boxes, plus one extra little envelope. The 
>> envelope had a small personalized gift from my new friend at Paul, 
>> just 
>> because, with a handwritten note in the prettiest handwriting I’ve 
>> ever 
>> seen. Swoon! I opened the first box and it was wrapped like origami 
>> inside. 
>> I uncovered the first gorgeous pieces

Re: [RBW] Re: New Jewelry for my Platypus

2024-01-17 Thread George Schick

Careful, Bill. You'll wind up in the same dog house I'm in.  Would you 
prefer a duplex or the upper level of a town house?


On Wednesday, January 17, 2024 at 6:23:03 PM UTC-6 Bill Lindsay wrote:

> Hi Paul?  It's me, Leah.  Listen, I just mailed you my Nitto rack struts 
> and Chris King headset cups.  They just aren't cutting it being aluminum 
> and silver.  Could you be a lamb and
>
> BL in EC
>
> On Wednesday, January 17, 2024 at 1:18:52 PM UTC-8 Bicycle Belle Ding 
> Ding! wrote:
>
>> I finally got the call to pick up the racing Platypus today! I don’t 
>> think the photos I took can capture how great the Paul stuff looks. The 
>> mechanics all swooned as the bike was wheeled out to the showroom. It just 
>> looks like it was meant to have these brakes and in this rose color.
>>
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>> image3.jpeg][image: image4.jpeg][image: image5.jpeg][image: 
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>> image10.jpeg][image: 
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>> image14.jpeg][image: image15.jpeg]
>>
>> On Jan 15, 2024, at 11:41 PM, Brenton Eastman  
>> wrote:
>>
>> the pencil gifting warms my heart!! thanks for sharing
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sunday, January 14, 2024 at 1:38:46 PM UTC-8 Josh C wrote:
>>
>>> Love it!
>>>
>>> On Saturday, January 13, 2024 at 4:10:31 PM UTC-5 Dorothy C wrote:
>>>
 Congratulations Leah. Now you have a one of a kind brake set on a 
 custom color Platy. 

 On Friday, January 12, 2024 at 10:10:51 PM UTC-8 krhe...@gmail.com 
 wrote:

> @Leah -
>
> I am certain with your new anodized bicycle parts will make you smile 
> loudly with a lot of joy making you go faster than ever before.
>
> Enjoy !
>
> Kim Hetzel enjoying my blue 52cm Clem with a lot of joy and smiles. 
>
> On Friday, January 12, 2024 at 3:40:37 PM UTC-8 ascpgh wrote:
>
>> I had the pleasure to meet and converse with Paul at the Philly Bike 
>> Expo. His approachability, perspective and overall friendliness adds to 
>> the 
>> MUSA points and makes me a fan of his parts any time I can use them. I 
>> think I'm dearly holding on to my orange Rambouillet because of the 
>> center 
>> bolt Racer brakes I added years ago to make room for more fender and 
>> tire.
>>
>> Name that bike "Varod". 
>>
>> Andy Cheatham 
>> Pittsburgh
>>
>> On Thursday, January 11, 2024 at 8:28:30 PM UTC-5 Bicycle Belle Ding 
>> Ding! wrote:
>>
>>> I have never had Paul anything. I’ve had whatever brakes and levers 
>>> came with my bikes and didn’t think any more about it. I did get my VO 
>>> brake levers anodized, but that batch of rose pink ano faded freakishly 
>>> fast and everything was silver 4 months later. 
>>>
>>> But I’m giving it another chance. Everyone talks about Paul, and 
>>> Paul sometimes offers their parts in pretty, anodized colors, but 
>>> currently, they do not. I emailed the company, asking if they happened 
>>> to 
>>> have any of their pink levers laying around that they would be willing 
>>> to 
>>> sell me. I got an email back from Paul, like THE Paul, who directed me 
>>> to 
>>> an employee I won’t name here. He and I got in contact and he was so 
>>> fun, 
>>> right from the start. We chatted and he looked at my bikes (I sent him 
>>> my 
>>> pics via email) and we made a plan. 
>>>
>>> We colored it all. 
>>>
>>> The bolts, the brake body, the levers, the barrel adjustors ALL of 
>>> it. 
>>>
>>> The parts came in 3 boxes, plus one extra little envelope. The 
>>> envelope had a small personalized gift from my new friend at Paul, just 
>>> because, with a handwritten note in the prettiest handwriting I’ve ever 
>>> seen. Swoon! I opened the first box and it was wrapped like origami 
>>> inside. 
>>> I uncovered the first gorgeous pieces and the breath left my body. So 
>>> beautiful. Quality even a novice can’t miss. Just what I wanted. Rich, 
>>> rose 
>>> color. 
>>>
>>> I would need to be with bike people to get the full joy out of this 
>>> experience. My bike shop knows about Paul Components. A blizzard is on 
>>> its 
>>> way to Michigan and I knew my shop would not be busy. I put the pieces 
>>> back 
>>> in the box, loaded the boxes and my bike in the van and drove to the 
>>> shop. 
>>> I came in and there were 4 mechanics and zero customers. “Guys!” I 
>>> said, “I 
>>> have a fun project for us to do, and I can’t do it without you! Who 
>>> wants 
>>> to see what is in these boxes?” 
>>>
>>> So there we were on company time, hovering over these immaculate 
>>> little parcels, oohing and aahhing. There was extra swag in there, 
>>> stuff I

Re: [RBW] Re: New Jewelry for my Platypus

2024-01-17 Thread Bill Lindsay

Hi Paul?  It's me, Leah.  Listen, I just mailed you my Nitto rack struts 
and Chris King headset cups.  They just aren't cutting it being aluminum 
and silver.  Could you be a lamb and

BL in EC

On Wednesday, January 17, 2024 at 1:18:52 PM UTC-8 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
wrote:

> I finally got the call to pick up the racing Platypus today! I don’t think 
> the photos I took can capture how great the Paul stuff looks. The mechanics 
> all swooned as the bike was wheeled out to the showroom. It just looks like 
> it was meant to have these brakes and in this rose color.
>
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> image6.jpeg][image: 
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> image10.jpeg][image: 
> image11.jpeg][image: image12.jpeg][image: image13.jpeg][image: 
> image14.jpeg][image: image15.jpeg]
>
> On Jan 15, 2024, at 11:41 PM, Brenton Eastman  
> wrote:
>
> the pencil gifting warms my heart!! thanks for sharing
>
>
>
> On Sunday, January 14, 2024 at 1:38:46 PM UTC-8 Josh C wrote:
>
>> Love it!
>>
>> On Saturday, January 13, 2024 at 4:10:31 PM UTC-5 Dorothy C wrote:
>>
>>> Congratulations Leah. Now you have a one of a kind brake set on a custom 
>>> color Platy. 
>>>
>>> On Friday, January 12, 2024 at 10:10:51 PM UTC-8 krhe...@gmail.com 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 @Leah -

 I am certain with your new anodized bicycle parts will make you smile 
 loudly with a lot of joy making you go faster than ever before.

 Enjoy !

 Kim Hetzel enjoying my blue 52cm Clem with a lot of joy and smiles. 

 On Friday, January 12, 2024 at 3:40:37 PM UTC-8 ascpgh wrote:

> I had the pleasure to meet and converse with Paul at the Philly Bike 
> Expo. His approachability, perspective and overall friendliness adds to 
> the 
> MUSA points and makes me a fan of his parts any time I can use them. I 
> think I'm dearly holding on to my orange Rambouillet because of the 
> center 
> bolt Racer brakes I added years ago to make room for more fender and tire.
>
> Name that bike "Varod". 
>
> Andy Cheatham 
> Pittsburgh
>
> On Thursday, January 11, 2024 at 8:28:30 PM UTC-5 Bicycle Belle Ding 
> Ding! wrote:
>
>> I have never had Paul anything. I’ve had whatever brakes and levers 
>> came with my bikes and didn’t think any more about it. I did get my VO 
>> brake levers anodized, but that batch of rose pink ano faded freakishly 
>> fast and everything was silver 4 months later. 
>>
>> But I’m giving it another chance. Everyone talks about Paul, and Paul 
>> sometimes offers their parts in pretty, anodized colors, but currently, 
>> they do not. I emailed the company, asking if they happened to have any 
>> of 
>> their pink levers laying around that they would be willing to sell me. I 
>> got an email back from Paul, like THE Paul, who directed me to an 
>> employee 
>> I won’t name here. He and I got in contact and he was so fun, right from 
>> the start. We chatted and he looked at my bikes (I sent him my pics via 
>> email) and we made a plan. 
>>
>> We colored it all. 
>>
>> The bolts, the brake body, the levers, the barrel adjustors ALL of 
>> it. 
>>
>> The parts came in 3 boxes, plus one extra little envelope. The 
>> envelope had a small personalized gift from my new friend at Paul, just 
>> because, with a handwritten note in the prettiest handwriting I’ve ever 
>> seen. Swoon! I opened the first box and it was wrapped like origami 
>> inside. 
>> I uncovered the first gorgeous pieces and the breath left my body. So 
>> beautiful. Quality even a novice can’t miss. Just what I wanted. Rich, 
>> rose 
>> color. 
>>
>> I would need to be with bike people to get the full joy out of this 
>> experience. My bike shop knows about Paul Components. A blizzard is on 
>> its 
>> way to Michigan and I knew my shop would not be busy. I put the pieces 
>> back 
>> in the box, loaded the boxes and my bike in the van and drove to the 
>> shop. 
>> I came in and there were 4 mechanics and zero customers. “Guys!” I said, 
>> “I 
>> have a fun project for us to do, and I can’t do it without you! Who 
>> wants 
>> to see what is in these boxes?” 
>>
>> So there we were on company time, hovering over these immaculate 
>> little parcels, oohing and aahhing. There was extra swag in there, stuff 
>> I 
>> had never seen. 
>>
>> “What’s this?” I asked, holding up a flat, wooden thing with Paul 
>> emblems. 
>>
>> “It’s a carpenter’s pencil,” said the mechanic. I gave it to him.
>>
>> I left the bike with them and I should have it in the next couple/few 
>> days, depending on how long the blizzard rages for. Not that

Re: [RBW] Re: New Jewelry for my Platypus

2024-01-17 Thread Ryan

Approve!!!it's a stunner

On Wednesday, January 17, 2024 at 4:44:01 PM UTC-6 JAS wrote:

> Now you've done it!  That's the fanciest Platy I've ever seen and now 
> we're all going to be dreaming about how to bedeck our own with jewels.  
> Just beautiful, Leah.  You'll go faster now too, I'm sure of it!
>
> On Wednesday, January 17, 2024 at 1:42:14 PM UTC-8 tio ryan wrote:
>
>> What a lovely bicycle! Appreciate the close up photos with the snowy 
>> backdrop — I can't get enough 
>>
>> On Wednesday, January 17, 2024 at 4:33:16 PM UTC-5 SallyG wrote:
>>
>>> Just beautiful, Leah; thanks for sharing!!
>>>
>>> On Wed, Jan 17, 2024 at 1:18 PM Leah Peterson  
>>> wrote:
>>>
 I finally got the call to pick up the racing Platypus today! I don’t 
 think the photos I took can capture how great the Paul stuff looks. The 
 mechanics all swooned as the bike was wheeled out to the showroom. It just 
 looks like it was meant to have these brakes and in this rose color.

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 On Jan 15, 2024, at 11:41 PM, Brenton Eastman  
 wrote:

 the pencil gifting warms my heart!! thanks for sharing

 On Sunday, January 14, 2024 at 1:38:46 PM UTC-8 Josh C wrote:

> Love it!
>
> On Saturday, January 13, 2024 at 4:10:31 PM UTC-5 Dorothy C wrote:
>
>> Congratulations Leah. Now you have a one of a kind brake set on a 
>> custom color Platy. 
>>
>> On Friday, January 12, 2024 at 10:10:51 PM UTC-8 krhe...@gmail.com 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> @Leah -
>>>
>>> I am certain with your new anodized bicycle parts will make you 
>>> smile loudly with a lot of joy making you go faster than ever before.
>>>
>>> Enjoy !
>>>
>>> Kim Hetzel enjoying my blue 52cm Clem with a lot of joy and smiles. 
>>>
>>> On Friday, January 12, 2024 at 3:40:37 PM UTC-8 ascpgh wrote:
>>>
 I had the pleasure to meet and converse with Paul at the Philly 
 Bike Expo. His approachability, perspective and overall friendliness 
 adds 
 to the MUSA points and makes me a fan of his parts any time I can use 
 them. 
 I think I'm dearly holding on to my orange Rambouillet because of the 
 center bolt Racer brakes I added years ago to make room for more 
 fender and 
 tire.

 Name that bike "Varod". 

 Andy Cheatham 
 Pittsburgh

 On Thursday, January 11, 2024 at 8:28:30 PM UTC-5 Bicycle Belle 
 Ding Ding! wrote:

> I have never had Paul anything. I’ve had whatever brakes and 
> levers came with my bikes and didn’t think any more about it. I did 
> get my 
> VO brake levers anodized, but that batch of rose pink ano faded 
> freakishly 
> fast and everything was silver 4 months later. 
>
> But I’m giving it another chance. Everyone talks about Paul, and 
> Paul sometimes offers their parts in pretty, anodized colors, but 
> currently, they do not. I emailed the company, asking if they 
> happened to 
> have any of their pink levers laying around that they would be 
> willing to 
> sell me. I got an email back from Paul, like THE Paul, who directed 
> me to 
> an employee I won’t name here. He and I got in contact and he was so 
> fun, 
> right from the start. We chatted and he looked at my bikes (I sent 
> him my 
> pics via email) and we made a plan. 
>
> We colored it all. 
>
> The bolts, the brake body, the levers, the barrel adjustors ALL of 
> it. 
>
> The parts came in 3 boxes, plus one extra little envelope. The 
> envelope had a small personalized gift from my new friend at Paul, 
> just 
> because, with a handwritten note in the prettiest handwriting I’ve 
> ever 
> seen. Swoon! I opened the first box and it was wrapped like origami 
> inside. 
> I uncovered the first gorgeous pieces and the breath left my body. So 
> beautiful. Quality even a novice can’t miss. Just what I wanted. 
> Rich, rose 
> color. 
>
> I would need to be with bike people to get the full joy out of 
> this experience. My bike shop knows about Paul Components. A blizzard 
> is on 
> its way to Michigan and I knew my shop would not be busy. I put the 
> pieces 
> back in the box, loaded the boxes and my bike in the van and drove to

Re: [RBW] OK to post non Rivendell bikes for sale here?

2024-01-17 Thread Bill Lindsay

There definitely are plenty of big-tent cyclists on this group, and there 
is no house rule against selling non-Rivendells.  I think you should list 
your Ibis.  Ibis has a ton of retro-chic cache even if that particular 
model is super contemporary.  I was pricing out an Ibis Hakka just the 
other day...

Bill Lindsay
El Cerrito, CA

On Wednesday, January 17, 2024 at 2:55:03 PM UTC-8 rmro...@gmail.com wrote:

> I just thought perhaps there might be others here  (actually I am certain 
> of it) who’s cycling world includes non Rivendell bikes. But I get it.
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Jan 17, 2024, at 3:17 PM, Armand Kizirian  wrote:
>
> Even if you could, who's going to buy that on here? ;) 
>
>
> On Wednesday, January 17, 2024 at 6:56:02 AM UTC-8 steve...@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>
>> RMRose -  a Gus has taken the place of your  Ibis Mojo 3.  I love it - 
>> good on you!   You might try listing the Ibis on 
>> BoingBoingShredSleds.com   (I just made that up, please forgive my warped 
>> attempt at humor)  
>>
>> Seriously though, what could be more Rivendellian than choosing a Clem 
>> for mountain biking?
>>
>> On Tuesday, January 16, 2024 at 11:54:01 PM UTC-5 CMR wrote:
>>
>>> Great bike, unfortunately off-topic, I can't imagine Grant on a carbon 
>>> full-suspension!
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, January 16, 2024 at 3:05:43 PM UTC-8 rmro...@gmail.com 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 2019 Ibis Mojo 3, size large. Fits more like a medium. I am 5’10”. Riv 
 content? My Gus has taken it’s place.
 Sent from my iPhone

 On Jan 16, 2024, at 4:38 PM, Steve  wrote:

 You've piqued my curiosity - what's the bike?

 Steve

 On Tuesday, January 16, 2024 at 12:57:17 PM UTC-5 Patrick Moore wrote:

> The moderator and others can correct me, but I think that if the bike 
> in question is relatively aligned with Rivendell tastes and might appeal 
> to 
> list members -- if it's generally Rivendellian in taste -- it will be 
> fine. 
> I would not post a FS for a modern CF road bike or downhill mountain bike 
> here.
>
> On Tue, Jan 16, 2024 at 10:41 AM Richard Rose  
> wrote:
>
>> I am still new here & do not want to violate an rules. But, I do have 
>> a bicycle that I would like to sell and thought others here might be 
>> interested. I will not post here until I hear if it is acceptable. 
>> Thanks! 
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Re: [RBW] OK to post non Rivendell bikes for sale here?

2024-01-17 Thread Richard Rose

I just thought perhaps there might be others here (actually I am certain of it) who’s cycling world includes non Rivendell bikes. But I get it.Sent from my iPhoneOn Jan 17, 2024, at 3:17 PM, Armand Kizirian wrote:Even if you could, who's going to buy that on here? ;) On Wednesday, January 17, 2024 at 6:56:02 AM UTC-8 steve...@gmail.com wrote:RMRose - a Gus has taken the place of your Ibis Mojo 3. I love it - good on you! You might try listing the Ibis on BoingBoingShredSleds.com (I just made that up, please forgive my warped attempt at humor) Seriously though, what could be more Rivendellian than choosing a Clem for mountain biking?On Tuesday, January 16, 2024 at 11:54:01 PM UTC-5 CMR wrote:Great bike, unfortunately off-topic, I can't imagine Grant on a carbon full-suspension!On Tuesday, January 16, 2024 at 3:05:43 PM UTC-8 rmro...@gmail.com wrote:2019 Ibis Mojo 3, size large. Fits more like a medium. I am 5’10”. Riv content? My Gus has taken it’s place.Sent from my iPhoneOn Jan 16, 2024, at 4:38 PM, Steve wrote:You've piqued my curiosity - what's the bike?SteveOn Tuesday, January 16, 2024 at 12:57:17 PM UTC-5 Patrick Moore wrote:The moderator and others can correct me, but I think that if the bike in question is relatively aligned with Rivendell tastes and might appeal to list members -- if it's generally Rivendellian in taste -- it will be fine. I would not post a FS for a modern CF road bike or downhill mountain bike here.On Tue, Jan 16, 2024 at 10:41 AM Richard Rose wrote:I am still new here & do not want to violate an rules. But, I do have a bicycle that I would like to sell and thought others here might be interested. I will not post here until I hear if it is acceptable. Thanks!

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Re: [RBW] Re: New Jewelry for my Platypus

2024-01-17 Thread JAS

Now you've done it!  That's the fanciest Platy I've ever seen and now we're 
all going to be dreaming about how to bedeck our own with jewels.  Just 
beautiful, Leah.  You'll go faster now too, I'm sure of it!

On Wednesday, January 17, 2024 at 1:42:14 PM UTC-8 tio ryan wrote:

> What a lovely bicycle! Appreciate the close up photos with the snowy 
> backdrop — I can't get enough 
>
> On Wednesday, January 17, 2024 at 4:33:16 PM UTC-5 SallyG wrote:
>
>> Just beautiful, Leah; thanks for sharing!!
>>
>> On Wed, Jan 17, 2024 at 1:18 PM Leah Peterson  
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I finally got the call to pick up the racing Platypus today! I don’t 
>>> think the photos I took can capture how great the Paul stuff looks. The 
>>> mechanics all swooned as the bike was wheeled out to the showroom. It just 
>>> looks like it was meant to have these brakes and in this rose color.
>>>
>>> [image: image0.jpeg][image: image1.jpeg][image: image2.jpeg][image: 
>>> image3.jpeg][image: image4.jpeg][image: image5.jpeg][image: 
>>> image6.jpeg][image: 
>>> image7.jpeg][image: image8.jpeg][image: image9.jpeg][image: 
>>> image10.jpeg][image: image11.jpeg][image: image12.jpeg][image: 
>>> image13.jpeg][image: image14.jpeg][image: image15.jpeg]
>>>
>>> On Jan 15, 2024, at 11:41 PM, Brenton Eastman  
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> the pencil gifting warms my heart!! thanks for sharing
>>>
>>> On Sunday, January 14, 2024 at 1:38:46 PM UTC-8 Josh C wrote:
>>>
 Love it!

 On Saturday, January 13, 2024 at 4:10:31 PM UTC-5 Dorothy C wrote:

> Congratulations Leah. Now you have a one of a kind brake set on a 
> custom color Platy. 
>
> On Friday, January 12, 2024 at 10:10:51 PM UTC-8 krhe...@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>
>> @Leah -
>>
>> I am certain with your new anodized bicycle parts will make you smile 
>> loudly with a lot of joy making you go faster than ever before.
>>
>> Enjoy !
>>
>> Kim Hetzel enjoying my blue 52cm Clem with a lot of joy and smiles. 
>>
>> On Friday, January 12, 2024 at 3:40:37 PM UTC-8 ascpgh wrote:
>>
>>> I had the pleasure to meet and converse with Paul at the Philly Bike 
>>> Expo. His approachability, perspective and overall friendliness adds to 
>>> the 
>>> MUSA points and makes me a fan of his parts any time I can use them. I 
>>> think I'm dearly holding on to my orange Rambouillet because of the 
>>> center 
>>> bolt Racer brakes I added years ago to make room for more fender and 
>>> tire.
>>>
>>> Name that bike "Varod". 
>>>
>>> Andy Cheatham 
>>> Pittsburgh
>>>
>>> On Thursday, January 11, 2024 at 8:28:30 PM UTC-5 Bicycle Belle Ding 
>>> Ding! wrote:
>>>
 I have never had Paul anything. I’ve had whatever brakes and levers 
 came with my bikes and didn’t think any more about it. I did get my VO 
 brake levers anodized, but that batch of rose pink ano faded 
 freakishly 
 fast and everything was silver 4 months later. 

 But I’m giving it another chance. Everyone talks about Paul, and 
 Paul sometimes offers their parts in pretty, anodized colors, but 
 currently, they do not. I emailed the company, asking if they happened 
 to 
 have any of their pink levers laying around that they would be willing 
 to 
 sell me. I got an email back from Paul, like THE Paul, who directed me 
 to 
 an employee I won’t name here. He and I got in contact and he was so 
 fun, 
 right from the start. We chatted and he looked at my bikes (I sent him 
 my 
 pics via email) and we made a plan. 

 We colored it all. 

 The bolts, the brake body, the levers, the barrel adjustors ALL of 
 it. 

 The parts came in 3 boxes, plus one extra little envelope. The 
 envelope had a small personalized gift from my new friend at Paul, 
 just 
 because, with a handwritten note in the prettiest handwriting I’ve 
 ever 
 seen. Swoon! I opened the first box and it was wrapped like origami 
 inside. 
 I uncovered the first gorgeous pieces and the breath left my body. So 
 beautiful. Quality even a novice can’t miss. Just what I wanted. Rich, 
 rose 
 color. 

 I would need to be with bike people to get the full joy out of this 
 experience. My bike shop knows about Paul Components. A blizzard is on 
 its 
 way to Michigan and I knew my shop would not be busy. I put the pieces 
 back 
 in the box, loaded the boxes and my bike in the van and drove to the 
 shop. 
 I came in and there were 4 mechanics and zero customers. “Guys!” I 
 said, “I 
 have a fun project for us to do, and I can’t do it without you! Who 
 wants 
 to see what is

[RBW] Re: ISO: 53 Atlantis

2024-01-17 Thread Gideon Tsang

Thanks Greg. Send you an email!

On Tuesday, January 16, 2024 at 10:41:42 PM UTC-6 Greg J wrote:

> I am seriously thinking about selling my 53cm All Rounder (Waterford 
> built), which is basically the precursor to the Atlantis.  Let me know if 
> you’re interested.  And where you’re located. 
>
> Greg
>
> On Tuesday, January 16, 2024 at 7:00:01 PM UTC-8 Gideon Tsang wrote:
>
>> Holler if you've got or know one. Xie xie
>
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Re: [RBW] Re: RAGBRAI?

2024-01-17 Thread R. Alexis

BRAN(Bike Ride Across Nebraska) is still going as far as I know. As apposed 
to RAGBRAI, it is a lot smaller. I think registration is limited to 500 or 
so. Might be even smaller. Someone described RAGBRAI as a party atmosphere 
that happens to have bikes involved. BRAN, from what I understand is way 
less party atmosphere. 

Friend thought of doing RAGBRAI and having husband roll with one of their 
campers, but I reminded her and she saw all the stuff that didn't appeal to 
her like crowds, heat, hills, other erratic riders. 

Thanks,

Reginald Alexis

On Wednesday, January 17, 2024 at 8:35:58 AM UTC-6 mmille...@gmail.com 
wrote:

> I wonder if it will start close to Omaha this year since it was the 
> northern route last year? 
> A very good friend did it last summer. He got an RV, and his wife drove 
> (and worked remote). He reserved a lot of RV spots that were NOT with the 
> main group. Had a blast, but a couple of those days were pretty rough. I 
> think last year was one of the toughest years.
>
> Is BRAN still happening? As a photojournalist in Omaha, I covered RAGBRAI 
> a couple years, and also went out to BRAN once. I thought the BRAN folks 
> were pretty hardcore.
>
> Matt in STL
>
> On Wednesday, January 17, 2024 at 12:21:49 AM UTC-6 John Dewey wrote:
>
>> I snapped a shot one RAGBRAI of a bank clock at 6 pm sharp. Still 106F. 
>> Thank goodness for plenty of cold beer. 
>>
>> Jock
>>
>> On Tue, Jan 16, 2024 at 2:50 PM Sarah Carlson  
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Just watched the RAGBRAI documentary and can totally understand how you 
>>> could be called to join a community of riders who support each other 
>>> through an exciting challenge. It makes me want to go too except for 
>>> when I heard one of the guys commenting, "It's 105 degrees." That gave me 
>>> pause! 
>>>
>>> On Monday, January 15, 2024 at 3:33:07 PM UTC-8 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Who knows about Bike Film Festival? 

 I paid for the pass to watch this year’s videos and it was money 
 well-spent. I got to the RAGBRAI documentary last night. Wow. I had heard 
 of it but really knew nothing about it and now I would just love to figure 
 out how to ride it this year. It just looks like such an experience. And 
 I’ve had very few experiences, because I’m late to the bike adventure 
 scene 
 AND I’ve been raising kids! But now they are teenagers and might not even 
 know that I’m gone so maybe I should ride this epic ride!

 There are a ton of logistics I don’t understand. I think you need a 
 “charter” to haul your stuff, yes? And to bring you back across the state 
 after you finish? And if you use these “charters” do they trash your bike 
 in their racks or will they have something that can handle a a mixte with 
 fenders? Is there are charter that is more friendly to Riv bikes than the 
 others?

 Also, no camping. I’m really hoping to end up in a hotel or some sort 
 of dwelling. I don’t have any tents, don’t know how to pitch tents and so 
 on. This may be the thing I can’t plan my way out of, because there are so 
 many riders moving through tiny host towns.

 I’ll look up more info tonight after I get my chores done! But it 
 really is so exciting to imagine riding my bike across a whole state… 
 Also, 
 it’s Real Winter here in Michigan, so maybe that’s why this hits different.

 Leah

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Re: [RBW] Re: If you plan to get a Roaduno..,

2024-01-17 Thread Patrick Moore

If I were to use a coaster brake, I'd also have a front brake of some sort,
and I'd attach the torque arm with a wingnut.

Funny: my first bike build, December 1970; halfway through 10th grade
(mid-summer Christmas vacation at 1*16' 59" South latitude) had first no
brake at all and then a coaster brake. I did everything wrong and was
disconcerted to lear that no frame-mount brake would fit, but when I got
tired of riding a brakeless bike down steep, winding, narrow, 55 mph
traffic arteries and in downtown traffic, I had a *fundi* install a flea
market coaster brake. Gearing IIRC was 90" -- 50 X 15 X ~27".  Whether it
was the gearing or whether the brake cam was worn out, backpedaling made
little difference until you stomped backward, which would lock up the wheel.

Indian-made rod braked roadster frame bought new and cheap from a downtown
Nairobi shop, cottered crank with swaged-on chainring made for butcher's
bike, Czecho steel rim and flip flop rear hub with 15 t fw and ~28 mm tire
from a friend, 24" Westwood front wheel stolen from my little brother's
child-scale rod braked roadster, ancient drooping aluminum drop bar,
Raleigh vinyl over springs saddle, rat trap pedals with no clips nor
straps. Fun times and "there's a special Providence that watches over
drunks, children, and Americans." I sold it after about a year for KS/150
to fund the complete teardown and refurbishment of a ~1960 Varsity with
hybrid 16/18 t AW rear wheel.

On Wed, Jan 17, 2024 at 1:18 PM aeroperf  wrote:

> My dislike with a coaster brake is that the rear tire wears out a lot more
> quickly than I expected.
> You do have to disconnect the torque arm to remove the rear wheel, but
> that’s usually not a big deal.  Just remember the correct screwdriver.
>
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Re: [RBW] Re: New Jewelry for my Platypus

2024-01-17 Thread tio ryan

What a lovely bicycle! Appreciate the close up photos with the snowy 
backdrop — I can't get enough 

On Wednesday, January 17, 2024 at 4:33:16 PM UTC-5 SallyG wrote:

> Just beautiful, Leah; thanks for sharing!!
>
> On Wed, Jan 17, 2024 at 1:18 PM Leah Peterson  wrote:
>
>> I finally got the call to pick up the racing Platypus today! I don’t 
>> think the photos I took can capture how great the Paul stuff looks. The 
>> mechanics all swooned as the bike was wheeled out to the showroom. It just 
>> looks like it was meant to have these brakes and in this rose color.
>>
>> [image: image0.jpeg][image: image1.jpeg][image: image2.jpeg][image: 
>> image3.jpeg][image: image4.jpeg][image: image5.jpeg][image: 
>> image6.jpeg][image: 
>> image7.jpeg][image: image8.jpeg][image: image9.jpeg][image: 
>> image10.jpeg][image: 
>> image11.jpeg][image: image12.jpeg][image: image13.jpeg][image: 
>> image14.jpeg][image: image15.jpeg]
>>
>> On Jan 15, 2024, at 11:41 PM, Brenton Eastman  
>> wrote:
>>
>> the pencil gifting warms my heart!! thanks for sharing
>>
>> On Sunday, January 14, 2024 at 1:38:46 PM UTC-8 Josh C wrote:
>>
>>> Love it!
>>>
>>> On Saturday, January 13, 2024 at 4:10:31 PM UTC-5 Dorothy C wrote:
>>>
 Congratulations Leah. Now you have a one of a kind brake set on a 
 custom color Platy. 

 On Friday, January 12, 2024 at 10:10:51 PM UTC-8 krhe...@gmail.com 
 wrote:

> @Leah -
>
> I am certain with your new anodized bicycle parts will make you smile 
> loudly with a lot of joy making you go faster than ever before.
>
> Enjoy !
>
> Kim Hetzel enjoying my blue 52cm Clem with a lot of joy and smiles. 
>
> On Friday, January 12, 2024 at 3:40:37 PM UTC-8 ascpgh wrote:
>
>> I had the pleasure to meet and converse with Paul at the Philly Bike 
>> Expo. His approachability, perspective and overall friendliness adds to 
>> the 
>> MUSA points and makes me a fan of his parts any time I can use them. I 
>> think I'm dearly holding on to my orange Rambouillet because of the 
>> center 
>> bolt Racer brakes I added years ago to make room for more fender and 
>> tire.
>>
>> Name that bike "Varod". 
>>
>> Andy Cheatham 
>> Pittsburgh
>>
>> On Thursday, January 11, 2024 at 8:28:30 PM UTC-5 Bicycle Belle Ding 
>> Ding! wrote:
>>
>>> I have never had Paul anything. I’ve had whatever brakes and levers 
>>> came with my bikes and didn’t think any more about it. I did get my VO 
>>> brake levers anodized, but that batch of rose pink ano faded freakishly 
>>> fast and everything was silver 4 months later. 
>>>
>>> But I’m giving it another chance. Everyone talks about Paul, and 
>>> Paul sometimes offers their parts in pretty, anodized colors, but 
>>> currently, they do not. I emailed the company, asking if they happened 
>>> to 
>>> have any of their pink levers laying around that they would be willing 
>>> to 
>>> sell me. I got an email back from Paul, like THE Paul, who directed me 
>>> to 
>>> an employee I won’t name here. He and I got in contact and he was so 
>>> fun, 
>>> right from the start. We chatted and he looked at my bikes (I sent him 
>>> my 
>>> pics via email) and we made a plan. 
>>>
>>> We colored it all. 
>>>
>>> The bolts, the brake body, the levers, the barrel adjustors ALL of 
>>> it. 
>>>
>>> The parts came in 3 boxes, plus one extra little envelope. The 
>>> envelope had a small personalized gift from my new friend at Paul, just 
>>> because, with a handwritten note in the prettiest handwriting I’ve ever 
>>> seen. Swoon! I opened the first box and it was wrapped like origami 
>>> inside. 
>>> I uncovered the first gorgeous pieces and the breath left my body. So 
>>> beautiful. Quality even a novice can’t miss. Just what I wanted. Rich, 
>>> rose 
>>> color. 
>>>
>>> I would need to be with bike people to get the full joy out of this 
>>> experience. My bike shop knows about Paul Components. A blizzard is on 
>>> its 
>>> way to Michigan and I knew my shop would not be busy. I put the pieces 
>>> back 
>>> in the box, loaded the boxes and my bike in the van and drove to the 
>>> shop. 
>>> I came in and there were 4 mechanics and zero customers. “Guys!” I 
>>> said, “I 
>>> have a fun project for us to do, and I can’t do it without you! Who 
>>> wants 
>>> to see what is in these boxes?” 
>>>
>>> So there we were on company time, hovering over these immaculate 
>>> little parcels, oohing and aahhing. There was extra swag in there, 
>>> stuff I 
>>> had never seen. 
>>>
>>> “What’s this?” I asked, holding up a flat, wooden thing with Paul 
>>> emblems. 
>>>
>>> “It’s a carpenter’s pencil,” said the mechanic. I gave it to him.
>>>
>>> I left

[RBW] Re: ISO - Ron's VX30 or VX21 Small Fab's Chest - Who's Got One?

2024-01-17 Thread 'jinxed' via RBW Owners Bunch

Armand,

I have a small olive xpac Fab's. I fitted my rack with it, and did a ride 
or two before I had to sell the bike. It's as new.

PICTURE 


Would like to get 220 shipped in the US.

Drop me a PM if interested.
Cheers!
Brad

On Wednesday, January 17, 2024 at 12:44:41 PM UTC-7 kiziria...@gmail.com 
wrote:

> Hello! 
>
> Wish to purchase one of these and see if it can serve as a single front 
> handlebar bag that can be used across all three of my main bikes for hyper 
> efficient bike camping. Seeking only VX30 or lighter fabrics. Show me what 
> you got! Open to different colors. 
>
> Armand
> Santa Monica, CA
>
> [image: dscf6613_1024x1...@2x.jpg]
>

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[RBW] Re: Leo Roadini on Brevet--SFR Del Puerto Canyon 200k ride report

2024-01-17 Thread Max S

Regarding the weight of Leo... there was a thread earlier on the list 
discussing the Crust Malocchio, where Bill wrote: 

   - *"...the reported weight of the Malocchio is very low.  They claim 
   frame and fork combined are under 6 pounds.  Even with a headset it may 
   still be a hair under 6 pounds.  My Rivendell Legolas weighed 6.30 pounds 
   frame+fork+headset, and that's about as light a frame as Rivendell can 
   make.  My Roadini weighed 7.75 pounds for frame + fork + headset." *

8 lbs is quite a lot, IMO, even for a steel bike. That doesn't imply it's a 
bad ride, or worse than a lighter frame might be. Neither does this read on 
whether a given rider can tell the difference while riding... 

Now, I'm aware of the "blind" tests done with Mondonico frames having 
different tube specs, etc., and the "surprising" results of people 
preferring the thicker wall, "downspec" tubing. Like Bill, I've got enough 
bikes in my collection, and do enough tinkering with them, to do my own 
A/B/C comparisons. In contrast to Bill, I believe I can feel a difference 
between a light and a heavy bike, a given bike free of bags and with bags, 
and a given bike with baggage located in different spots (e.g., on top of 
front rack vs. low-riders vs. saddle, etc.), different tires and wheels, 
different inner tubes, and so on. 

I think that weight – and in particular, weight *distribution* on a bike – 
can make a huge difference in how the bike feels when pedaling seated, out 
of saddle, downhill or uphill, with and without hands on bars, etc. Moving 
a load from the front to the rear can easily cause a bike to shimmy even 
pedaling on flat ground – I have video to prove it. And whether my average 
speed changes or not for a given effort, I can still have personal 
preferences. It's just like people have preferences for low- vs. mid- vs. 
high trail steering, based on what they're used to, the terrain, etc. 

Speaking of bike geometry, I think one could tell differences between 
frames that are geometry-driven, more than weight, but the two aspects have 
some interplay between them. Frame flex, for example, is another attribute 
that depends on tubing diameter and wall thickness, but also quite a bit on 
frame design. The long and relatively skinny chainstays on the Roadini are 
going to flex a lot more than the thin-walled, short, light, but 
super-beefy chainstays on the Pegoretti Round, for example. How much flex 
will feel good to you depends on your weight, riding style and surface, 
etc. Plenty of riders and custom frame builders have experience with having 
a tuned / optimized flex characteristic, and one that may even change for a 
given person with time. 

Speaking of custom, it's quite possible to get custom steel frameset (frame 
+ fork) to weigh closer to 5 lbs, and then build it up into a ~16 lb bike 
with ~32-35mm tires (some titanium and carbon parts may need to be used). 
Check out the steel bikes made by Rob English – plenty of examples in that 
range! How stiff that frame will be, and how ponderously it'll ride will 
depend on how the frame is laid out. One 16 lb bike may well end up riding 
more sluggishly than a 23 lb Roadini. 

So, I think it's great to ask for and share qualitative opinions. I'd also 
add that it's helpful to specify what wheels, tires, and other attributes 
the bike had, and maybe include pictures of the set-up, too, as that could 
give a better idea of where the weight is distributed, which impacts how 
the bike feels, rider weight, etc. It's no different from the talk of 
racquets on tennis forums – a given stick in the hands of a star college 
varsity player will feel very different than in the hands of a weekend 3.5 
league doubles player. That info, along with playing / stroke style, is 
typically specified in reviews to help others make a decision. 

- Max "I wouldn't want a head tube shallower than my QB, and would not 
object to a slightly lower bottom bracket, and I sure can tell the lower 
weight with carbon wheels and titanium fixin's" in A2 

On Wednesday, January 17, 2024 at 2:10:10 PM UTC-5 four...@gmail.com wrote:

> Bill,
>
> Thank for the concise, informative replies! I really mean that.. and do 
> get what you mean, for the most part.. I have my Dad's AHH I inherited 
> that, I think, comes in around 25# (typical 2010ish RIV build) and it 
> certainly doesn't ride heavy.. 
>
> I can get totally wrapped around the axle on the perception of weight for 
> sure.. :) Appreciate the grounding truth! 
>
> Chris 
>
> On Wednesday, January 17, 2024 at 10:29:02 AM UTC-8 Bill Lindsay wrote:
>
>> "what I don't want is a bike that feels "heavy" or "sluggish" when being 
>> ridden.. I think we all know what that means"
>>
>> I think this is where I'm the outlier because I *don't* know what that 
>> means.  Or, to be more specific, what I think that means is something 
>> different from what other people mean.  The way I always express it is that 
>> all my bikes go faster

Re: [RBW] Re: Silver crank surprise and the weight of things

2024-01-17 Thread Armand Kizirian

@rmros...@gmail.com: The crank is a vintage middleburn triple road crank. 
Not really available anywhere. Nothing states the model either.  It has a 
highly machined spider and very scalloped arms. I'll be swapping the 
guard/42/30 rings from the Silver cranks onto it. 

On Monday, January 15, 2024 at 8:27:12 AM UTC-8 fra...@gmail.com wrote:

> To me, I don’t notice the weight on my normal rides and commutes, I have 
> racks and gear and pull a trailer everywhere so weight is what it is. I do 
> notice the weight when the trail disappears on a weekend trip and I’m 
> lifting the bike and all my gear over or pushing/pulling under down trees. 
> If I can save 12 lbs, I will have more fun on my trip. 
>
> On Monday, January 15, 2024 at 7:40:27 AM UTC-8 rmro...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> This (to me) is especially true when mountain biking. The trails I like 
>> most have a LOT of short but very punchy climbs. The whole experience is 
>> one of doing intervals, blasting the downhills but gathering strength for 
>> the next climb. My road rides these days are much more chill, without any 
>> of the fast accelerations in the pack from my youth. Odd then that my 
>> heaviest bike is the one I ride on the trails. Alas & so it goes.:)
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Jan 14, 2024, at 9:03 PM, Ron Mc  wrote:
>>
>> What makes a bike joyous is not 1 mph, 15 mph, or 23 mph, but the 
>> dynamic changes between those velocities.  
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sunday, January 14, 2024 at 7:25:57 PM UTC-6 John Hawrylak, Woodstown 
>> NJ wrote:
>>
>>> Chris made some good points.   I am not justifying a heavy bike, merely 
>>> pointing out what you can expect if you take that trip & 'go down the 
>>> rabbit hole' wrt to reducing frame weight and overall weight including the 
>>> rims/tires.  You may not get your kicks on Rt 66 ('when you take that CA 
>>> trip...")
>>>
>>> Good point on wheels.   If you maintain a constant speed, you minimize 
>>> the acceleration and reduce the effect wheels have.   But real world riding 
>>> has a lot of acceleration , so lighter wheels help.  The biggest effect was 
>>> probably the change from STEEL RIMS to AL RIMS in rotational inertial.
>>>
>>> John Hawrylak
>>> Woodstown NJ
>>>
>>> On Sunday, January 14, 2024 at 08:05:11 PM EST, Chris Fly <
>>> four...@gmail.com> wrote: 
>>>
>>>
>>> if you just look at the numbers, you can go down a long rabbit hole and 
>>> certainly justify a heavy bike.. I agree 1mph isn't anything.. what you 
>>> can't justify with numbers is what a heavy bike *feels* like when 
>>> riding.. some heavier bikes certainly can "ride light", but many don't in 
>>> my experience.. same with heavier wheels or tires, my 650b Hilsen with 
>>> Rich-built wheels and 42mm Compass tires do NOT feel like they spin up as 
>>> well as my Serotta with HED Belgium tires with 28mm Vittoria Corsas on it.. 
>>>
>>> I would never begrudge someone riding what they want to ride, but often, 
>>> heavy is just that.. heavy..
>>>
>>> On Sunday, January 14, 2024 at 4:49:18 PM UTC-8 John Hawrylak, Woodstown 
>>> NJ wrote:
>>>
>>> During a appearance on The Opiniated Cyclist, Richard Schwinn stated the 
>>> following:  Reducing the bike weight by 12 lbm, increases your speed by 1 
>>> mph, given the same power input from testing Schwinn did.
>>>
>>> John Hawrylak
>>> Woodstown NJ
>>>
>>> On Sunday, January 14, 2024 at 12:11:36 PM UTC-5 Bicycle Belle Ding 
>>> Ding! wrote:
>>>
>>> 
>>> It will always have a dyno hub. I just can’t give up that kind of 
>>> practicality. I didn’t know Paul components would save me any weight but 
>>> I’m glad if they do. My Velo Orange levers were pretty feather-light 
>>> already though. 
>>>
>>> I probably do have the Platy set up as light as I dare, save the 
>>> drivetrain stuff from White Industries. And Richard has a good point that 
>>> all that money would only save me a third of a pound.
>>>
>>> On Jan 14, 2024, at 8:40 AM, Johnny Alien  wrote:
>>>
>>> Does the raspberry Platy still have a dyno hub? If so that would be a 
>>> big gain as far as weight loss and lessening drag. Otherwise you have it 
>>> set up fairly light from what I remember about your posts. Paul components 
>>> will sure help shave some grams.
>>>
>>>
>>> When weight is brought up the first thing Grant would say is take weight 
>>> off the engine. Well I just took a massive amount of weight off the engine 
>>> so I feel that I am now free and clear to be a weight weenie about the 
>>> bike. :)
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Re: [RBW] Re: If you plan to get a Roaduno..,

2024-01-17 Thread aeroperf

My dislike with a coaster brake is that the rear tire wears out a lot more 
quickly than I expected.
You do have to disconnect the torque arm to remove the rear wheel, but 
that’s usually not a big deal.  Just remember the correct screwdriver.


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Re: [RBW] OK to post non Rivendell bikes for sale here?

2024-01-17 Thread Armand Kizirian

Even if you could, who's going to buy that on here? ;) 

On Wednesday, January 17, 2024 at 6:56:02 AM UTC-8 steve...@gmail.com wrote:

> RMRose -  a Gus has taken the place of your  Ibis Mojo 3.  I love it - 
> good on you!   You might try listing the Ibis on BoingBoingShredSleds.com 
>   (I just made that up, please forgive my warped attempt at humor)  
>
> Seriously though, what could be more Rivendellian than choosing a Clem for 
> mountain biking?
>
> On Tuesday, January 16, 2024 at 11:54:01 PM UTC-5 CMR wrote:
>
>> Great bike, unfortunately off-topic, I can't imagine Grant on a carbon 
>> full-suspension!
>>
>> On Tuesday, January 16, 2024 at 3:05:43 PM UTC-8 rmro...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> 2019 Ibis Mojo 3, size large. Fits more like a medium. I am 5’10”. Riv 
>>> content? My Gus has taken it’s place.
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>> On Jan 16, 2024, at 4:38 PM, Steve  wrote:
>>>
>>> You've piqued my curiosity - what's the bike?
>>>
>>> Steve
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, January 16, 2024 at 12:57:17 PM UTC-5 Patrick Moore wrote:
>>>
 The moderator and others can correct me, but I think that if the bike 
 in question is relatively aligned with Rivendell tastes and might appeal 
 to 
 list members -- if it's generally Rivendellian in taste -- it will be 
 fine. 
 I would not post a FS for a modern CF road bike or downhill mountain bike 
 here.

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 wrote:

> I am still new here & do not want to violate an rules. But, I do have 
> a bicycle that I would like to sell and thought others here might be 
> interested. I will not post here until I hear if it is acceptable. 
> Thanks! 
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[RBW] Re: ISO: Frame Pump Zefal HpX 1 or Acceptable Alternate

2024-01-17 Thread Steve

I've been keeping an eye open for a frame pump for my 50cm Platy as well - 
and wondering why RBW spec'ed such a short span for the pump peg. 

I'd love to hang a Silca Impero on it, but even their small (44 - 49 cm / 
17.3 - 19.3 in.) appears to be a bit too long.  

Steve in Asheville

On Wednesday, January 17, 2024 at 5:00:03 AM UTC-5 Ed Carolipio wrote:

> Hi Christian,
>
> Topeak makes a frame pump for the global market. You can locate new ones 
> from international sellers on eBay. The 4349 has the same spec lengths as 
> the HPX-1.
> https://www.topeak.com/global/en/product/235-ROAD-MASTERBLASTER.
>
> The top-of-the-line Silca Ultimate II went down in price recently, and is 
> actually on sale for $75 until Jan 21. Unfortunately, I think the Small is 
> all sold out. Check suppliers to see if they matched Silca's price.
>
> https://silca.cc/collections/silca-supersecret-semi-anual-sale/products/impero-ultimate-ii-frame-pump-memorial-day-sale?variant=40350946492514
>
> Good luck,
> Ed C.
> Redondo Beach, CA
>
> On Tuesday, January 16, 2024 at 11:43:21 AM UTC-8 christian poppell wrote:
>
>> Hi Gang, 
>>
>> I'm looking for a HPX-1 for a 50cm Platypus. Space between the peg and 
>> headtube is 410mm. Looking to pay retail for like new and less if the pump 
>> is used. 
>>
>> Also, if anyone has a good alternative I'm all ears with the HPX out of 
>> production. 
>>
>> Thanks! 
>> Christian
>> Phoenix, AZ
>>
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[RBW] Re: Leo Roadini on Brevet--SFR Del Puerto Canyon 200k ride report

2024-01-17 Thread Chris Fly

Bill,

Thank for the concise, informative replies! I really mean that.. and do get 
what you mean, for the most part.. I have my Dad's AHH I inherited that, I 
think, comes in around 25# (typical 2010ish RIV build) and it certainly 
doesn't ride heavy.. 

I can get totally wrapped around the axle on the perception of weight for 
sure.. :) Appreciate the grounding truth! 

Chris 

On Wednesday, January 17, 2024 at 10:29:02 AM UTC-8 Bill Lindsay wrote:

> "what I don't want is a bike that feels "heavy" or "sluggish" when being 
> ridden.. I think we all know what that means"
>
> I think this is where I'm the outlier because I *don't* know what that 
> means.  Or, to be more specific, what I think that means is something 
> different from what other people mean.  The way I always express it is that 
> all my bikes go faster when I pedal harder.  I always pedal as hard as I 
> want to go and the bike goes as fast as it does.  I do know what it means 
> to ride a crappy bike, but there are crappy 20 pound bikes and great 35 
> pound bikes.  I don't think there is anything objectively connecting bike 
> weight to sluggishness, but A LOT of people do, and it seems you may be one 
> of those normal people.  I'm the abnormal one.  Maybe what "normal" people 
> mean is that they insist on riding up HILL X at precisely 12 MPH, and a 
> "sluggish" bike requires you to pedal harder to get to objectively 12MPH? 
>  Maybe "normal" people are all on club-rides and just want to keep up with 
> the speedy group?  I am neither of those people.  
>
> Being really specific about it, on these group boards, there was a poster 
> who claimed he can tell how full his water bottles are just by how fast his 
> bike goes up a hill.  I cannot tell how full my water bottles are by riding 
> my bike up a hill.  Two full water bottles is four pounds.  I would say the 
> majority of cyclists claim there's a massive difference between a 17 pound 
> bike and a 21 pound bike.  I agree there's a difference, but I don't think 
> it's massive.  That;s what makes me a weirdo.  There are posters here who 
> may refer to a 24 pound road bike as "a tank".  I'm not one of them.  I 
> hate picking up my 30+ pound bikes, but I don't hate riding them.  I'm sure 
> my sub 20 pound bikes go a hair faster, but I still pedal in the gear that 
> I feel like pedaling in.  In no circumstances am I under some deadline 
> where I have to average 18.75MPH or I get fired.  
>
> One other way normal people justify their "need" for a light bike is using 
> language like "it's just more fun to throw the bike around".  Even Jan 
> Heine uses language like this.  I think I know what "throwing the bike 
> around" is, and I agree that if doing that was something I did a lot, I 
> guess I'd develop more of a taste for very very light bikes, but the fact 
> is that I don't "throw the bike around" all that much.  I love doing weight 
> weenie builds, but the evaluation of the lightness happens on the scale, 
> not on the road.  It's fun to shave a pound of unnecessary weight off a 
> build, full stop.  I can't feel the difference.  Others claim they can, and 
> I can't prove them wrong.  
>
> Bill Lindsay
> El Cerrito, CA
> On Wednesday, January 17, 2024 at 9:28:25 AM UTC-8 four...@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>
>> fair enough, I can see why you got that from what I had put in my initial 
>> inquiry.. 
>>
>> I'm certainly NOT looking for a race bike, I already have a couple of 
>> those kind of bikes, if that is what I'm looking for.. what I don't want is 
>> a bike that feels "heavy" or "sluggish" when being ridden.. I think we all 
>> know what that means.. of course, much of that can often be attributed to 
>> heavy wheels/tires, but a 35# bike HAS to feel heavier than 21# bike to 
>> ride, either accelerating from a stop or on a 5% extended climb.. (using 
>> these weight numbers just to illustrate a point)
>>
>> But back to my search for info- yes I like Rivs, every since around 
>> 2008.. yes, I want a bike that will take a larger tire.. and yes, I would 
>> like the bike to not feel like a pig when I ride it. I generally like to 
>> have my bars at or even a bit above my saddle, so a Riv certainly ticks 
>> that box normally. 
>>
>> Appreciate it! 
>> Chris 
>>
>> On Wednesday, January 17, 2024 at 9:14:23 AM UTC-8 Bill Lindsay wrote:
>>
>>> fourflys wanted feedback on maybe buying a Leo.  
>>>
>>> My general impression of your search for info is that you want it to be 
>>> a racing bike that takes wide tires.  That's not what the Leo Roadini is, 
>>> in my opinion.  The Leo Roadini is an evolved road bike.  It seemed to me 
>>> you want a traditional or mainstream road bike, just one that takes wide 
>>> tires and maybe says Rivendell on it.  In other words, you want a Roadeo, 
>>> which is a lot more of a traditional or mainstream road racing bike that 
>>> takes wide-ish tires.  
>>>
>>> A big part of my "presence" on this board is to counterpoint the 
>>> contrarians.

[RBW] Re: Leo Roadini on Brevet--SFR Del Puerto Canyon 200k ride report

2024-01-17 Thread Bill Lindsay

"what I don't want is a bike that feels "heavy" or "sluggish" when being 
ridden.. I think we all know what that means"

I think this is where I'm the outlier because I *don't* know what that 
means.  Or, to be more specific, what I think that means is something 
different from what other people mean.  The way I always express it is that 
all my bikes go faster when I pedal harder.  I always pedal as hard as I 
want to go and the bike goes as fast as it does.  I do know what it means 
to ride a crappy bike, but there are crappy 20 pound bikes and great 35 
pound bikes.  I don't think there is anything objectively connecting bike 
weight to sluggishness, but A LOT of people do, and it seems you may be one 
of those normal people.  I'm the abnormal one.  Maybe what "normal" people 
mean is that they insist on riding up HILL X at precisely 12 MPH, and a 
"sluggish" bike requires you to pedal harder to get to objectively 12MPH? 
 Maybe "normal" people are all on club-rides and just want to keep up with 
the speedy group?  I am neither of those people.  

Being really specific about it, on these group boards, there was a poster 
who claimed he can tell how full his water bottles are just by how fast his 
bike goes up a hill.  I cannot tell how full my water bottles are by riding 
my bike up a hill.  Two full water bottles is four pounds.  I would say the 
majority of cyclists claim there's a massive difference between a 17 pound 
bike and a 21 pound bike.  I agree there's a difference, but I don't think 
it's massive.  That;s what makes me a weirdo.  There are posters here who 
may refer to a 24 pound road bike as "a tank".  I'm not one of them.  I 
hate picking up my 30+ pound bikes, but I don't hate riding them.  I'm sure 
my sub 20 pound bikes go a hair faster, but I still pedal in the gear that 
I feel like pedaling in.  In no circumstances am I under some deadline 
where I have to average 18.75MPH or I get fired.  

One other way normal people justify their "need" for a light bike is using 
language like "it's just more fun to throw the bike around".  Even Jan 
Heine uses language like this.  I think I know what "throwing the bike 
around" is, and I agree that if doing that was something I did a lot, I 
guess I'd develop more of a taste for very very light bikes, but the fact 
is that I don't "throw the bike around" all that much.  I love doing weight 
weenie builds, but the evaluation of the lightness happens on the scale, 
not on the road.  It's fun to shave a pound of unnecessary weight off a 
build, full stop.  I can't feel the difference.  Others claim they can, and 
I can't prove them wrong.  

Bill Lindsay
El Cerrito, CA
On Wednesday, January 17, 2024 at 9:28:25 AM UTC-8 four...@gmail.com wrote:

> fair enough, I can see why you got that from what I had put in my initial 
> inquiry.. 
>
> I'm certainly NOT looking for a race bike, I already have a couple of 
> those kind of bikes, if that is what I'm looking for.. what I don't want is 
> a bike that feels "heavy" or "sluggish" when being ridden.. I think we all 
> know what that means.. of course, much of that can often be attributed to 
> heavy wheels/tires, but a 35# bike HAS to feel heavier than 21# bike to 
> ride, either accelerating from a stop or on a 5% extended climb.. (using 
> these weight numbers just to illustrate a point)
>
> But back to my search for info- yes I like Rivs, every since around 2008.. 
> yes, I want a bike that will take a larger tire.. and yes, I would like the 
> bike to not feel like a pig when I ride it. I generally like to have my 
> bars at or even a bit above my saddle, so a Riv certainly ticks that box 
> normally. 
>
> Appreciate it! 
> Chris 
>
> On Wednesday, January 17, 2024 at 9:14:23 AM UTC-8 Bill Lindsay wrote:
>
>> fourflys wanted feedback on maybe buying a Leo.  
>>
>> My general impression of your search for info is that you want it to be a 
>> racing bike that takes wide tires.  That's not what the Leo Roadini is, in 
>> my opinion.  The Leo Roadini is an evolved road bike.  It seemed to me you 
>> want a traditional or mainstream road bike, just one that takes wide tires 
>> and maybe says Rivendell on it.  In other words, you want a Roadeo, which 
>> is a lot more of a traditional or mainstream road racing bike that takes 
>> wide-ish tires.  
>>
>> A big part of my "presence" on this board is to counterpoint the 
>> contrarians.  
>>
>> On Wednesday, January 17, 2024 at 8:27:44 AM UTC-8 four...@gmail.com 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> edit to my above reply- just read through Bill's post when he initially 
>>> built up Leo.. good stuff and good comparisons.. 
>>>
>>> Thanks! 
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, January 17, 2024 at 8:10:08 AM UTC-8 Chris Fly wrote:
>>>
 Bill,

 Good Stuff! I had pretty much written a Leo off as I really couldn't 
 find much feedback on it to be honest.. I got a few replies to my 
 question, 
 but not a lot.. your report has it back on my radar! 

 Having been a

[RBW] Re: Leo Roadini on Brevet--SFR Del Puerto Canyon 200k ride report

2024-01-17 Thread Chris Fly

makes sense! and I totally get what you mean.. while I certainly wear "kit"
when riding.. my days of wearing stuff that has logos all over it are
mostly gone.. I do have a couple of classic Salsa jerseys I still like to
wear.. and i also have some more MTBish stuff for those days when I want to
be a bit more "under the radar".. :)

thanks Bill!

On Wednesday, January 17, 2024 at 9:23:44 AM UTC-8 Bill Lindsay wrote:

"A big part of my "presence" on this board is to counterpoint the
contrarians."

...and what I mean by that is that there are a number of people who
badmouth the Leo because they bought it, thinking it was a racing bike,
wanted it to be a racing bike, and then got mad that it isn't a racing
bike. It's totally fine to not like a bike, but it's a little lame to say
that a row boat is crap because it isn't a motor boat.

Anyway, some of the voices badmouthing the Leo for not being a race bike
went so far as to claim that the Leo couldn't be ridden fast. Those
threads that you read were my reports that even though the Leo is not a
racing bike, it still can be ridden fast. That period, 2017 - 2019 was
when I was in my best racing shape, because I was coaching a high school
racing team. That anecdote comes up a lot. "It doesn't matter which bike
that pro rides, because at that level it's the rider". Several "voices" on
these boards sort of anticipate that by claiming "I need ultralight tubing
because I'm so weak and slow, I need all the help I can get", etc. In
those threads you read, I was trying to make clear that you can get a lot
out of a Leo Roadini if you want to.

I think the best summary was that I felt a little weird in full-kit on my
Leo. I felt a little weird NOT being in full kit on my Black Mountain.
That's what I mean by "traditional racing bike" vs "evolved road bike".

Bill Lindsay

[RBW] Re: Leo Roadini on Brevet--SFR Del Puerto Canyon 200k ride report

2024-01-17 Thread Chris Fly

fair enough, I can see why you got that from what I had put in my initial 
inquiry.. 

I'm certainly NOT looking for a race bike, I already have a couple of those 
kind of bikes, if that is what I'm looking for.. what I don't want is a 
bike that feels "heavy" or "sluggish" when being ridden.. I think we all 
know what that means.. of course, much of that can often be attributed to 
heavy wheels/tires, but a 35# bike HAS to feel heavier than 21# bike to 
ride, either accelerating from a stop or on a 5% extended climb.. (using 
these weight numbers just to illustrate a point)

But back to my search for info- yes I like Rivs, every since around 2008.. 
yes, I want a bike that will take a larger tire.. and yes, I would like the 
bike to not feel like a pig when I ride it. I generally like to have my 
bars at or even a bit above my saddle, so a Riv certainly ticks that box 
normally. 

Appreciate it! 
Chris 

On Wednesday, January 17, 2024 at 9:14:23 AM UTC-8 Bill Lindsay wrote:

> fourflys wanted feedback on maybe buying a Leo.  
>
> My general impression of your search for info is that you want it to be a 
> racing bike that takes wide tires.  That's not what the Leo Roadini is, in 
> my opinion.  The Leo Roadini is an evolved road bike.  It seemed to me you 
> want a traditional or mainstream road bike, just one that takes wide tires 
> and maybe says Rivendell on it.  In other words, you want a Roadeo, which 
> is a lot more of a traditional or mainstream road racing bike that takes 
> wide-ish tires.  
>
> A big part of my "presence" on this board is to counterpoint the 
> contrarians.  
>
> On Wednesday, January 17, 2024 at 8:27:44 AM UTC-8 four...@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>
>> edit to my above reply- just read through Bill's post when he initially 
>> built up Leo.. good stuff and good comparisons.. 
>>
>> Thanks! 
>>
>> On Wednesday, January 17, 2024 at 8:10:08 AM UTC-8 Chris Fly wrote:
>>
>>> Bill,
>>>
>>> Good Stuff! I had pretty much written a Leo off as I really couldn't 
>>> find much feedback on it to be honest.. I got a few replies to my question, 
>>> but not a lot.. your report has it back on my radar! 
>>>
>>> Having been a big supporter of the Black Mountain Cycles brand and 
>>> having had a V1 Road and MC, I'd be curious how you would compare the BMC 
>>> Road and your Leo (in drop bar mode)? 
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Chris 
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, January 16, 2024 at 7:18:17 PM UTC-8 Bill Lindsay wrote:
>>>
 I posted a photo of the drop bar build that I had on that bike in 2018. 
  This thread links to that thread, and in that thread I posted a photo. 
  You should be able to find it. It doesn't look like I made a Flickr album 
 for that build so the detailed build photos are buried. 

 Bill Lindsay
 El Cerrito, CA



 On Tuesday, January 16, 2024 at 3:06:34 PM UTC-8 brenton...@gmail.com 
 wrote:

> Got a pic of your setup? I'm building a roadini at the moment and love 
> seeing others' builds. Would love to see it in it's brevet mode if it has 
> multiple modes.
>
> On Sunday, November 4, 2018 at 7:32:05 AM UTC-8 Bill Lindsay wrote:
>
>> Yesterday was the Del Puerto Canyon 200k brevet, hosted by San 
>> Francisco Randonneurs. Luckily for me the day remained conflict-free and 
>> I 
>> was able to do it.  It was the 26th RUSA event of my career of 200k or 
>> greater, and I logged my best time ever: 8 hours 18 minutes.  
>>
>> I woke up a little earlier than I needed to, at 4:45AM.  I was able 
>> to pack light because of the amazing weather forecast.  The Del Puerto 
>> Canyon 200k starts and finishes in Pleasanton, CA, just south of Mount 
>> Diablo.  The ride goes out and over the hills that make up the Altamont 
>> Pass,meanders through the flat farm roads around Tracy and Wesley, and 
>> then 
>> returns out and over the same hills via Del Puerto Canyon.  The forecast 
>> called for temps in the low 50s to start and venturing into the high 70s 
>> in 
>> some places.  So I wore bib-shorts, a light base layer, short sleeve 
>> jersey, arm warmers and a reflective vest.  The ride started at 8AM, 
>> which 
>> would be light enough to not require any lighting.  Sunset would come at 
>> about 6PM, so I did bring lights just in case I went over 10 hours.  I 
>> carried a little Cygolite Dart (from Riv), a battery taillight, and two 
>> elastic head lamps that could serve as backup head or tail lights. I 
>> also 
>> carried a USB battery stick in case I needed to boost my phone, Wahoo, 
>> or 
>> headlight.  In my Ruthworks rackless Brevet bag went those lighting 
>> bits, a 
>> few bars, and a travel size sunscreen for when the armwarmers came off 
>> and 
>> the guns came out.  I made coffee and breakfast, got lubed up and 
>> dressed 
>> and I was a good 25 minutes ahead of schedule.  I had planned

[RBW] Re: Leo Roadini on Brevet--SFR Del Puerto Canyon 200k ride report

2024-01-17 Thread Bill Lindsay

"A big part of my "presence" on this board is to counterpoint the 
contrarians."

...and what I mean by that is that there are a number of people who 
badmouth the Leo because they bought it, thinking it was a racing bike, 
wanted it to be a racing bike, and then got mad that it isn't a racing 
bike.  It's totally fine to not like a bike, but it's a little lame to say 
that a row boat is crap because it isn't a motor boat.  

Anyway, some of the voices badmouthing the Leo for not being a race bike 
went so far as to claim that the Leo couldn't be ridden fast.  Those 
threads that you read were my reports that even though the Leo is not a 
racing bike, it still can be ridden fast.  That period, 2017 - 2019 was 
when I was in my best racing shape, because I was coaching a high school 
racing team.  That anecdote comes up a lot.  "It doesn't matter which bike 
that pro rides, because at that level it's the rider".  Several "voices" on 
these boards sort of anticipate that by claiming "I need ultralight tubing 
because I'm so weak and slow, I need all the help I can get", etc.  In 
those threads you read, I was trying to make clear that you can get a lot 
out of a Leo Roadini if you want to.  

I think the best summary was that I felt a little weird in full-kit on my 
Leo.  I felt a little weird NOT being in full kit on my Black Mountain. 
 That's what I mean by "traditional racing bike" vs "evolved road bike". 

Bill Lindsay
On Wednesday, January 17, 2024 at 9:14:23 AM UTC-8 Bill Lindsay wrote:

> fourflys wanted feedback on maybe buying a Leo.  
>
> My general impression of your search for info is that you want it to be a 
> racing bike that takes wide tires.  That's not what the Leo Roadini is, in 
> my opinion.  The Leo Roadini is an evolved road bike.  It seemed to me you 
> want a traditional or mainstream road bike, just one that takes wide tires 
> and maybe says Rivendell on it.  In other words, you want a Roadeo, which 
> is a lot more of a traditional or mainstream road racing bike that takes 
> wide-ish tires.  
>
> A big part of my "presence" on this board is to counterpoint the 
> contrarians.  
>
> On Wednesday, January 17, 2024 at 8:27:44 AM UTC-8 four...@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>
>> edit to my above reply- just read through Bill's post when he initially 
>> built up Leo.. good stuff and good comparisons.. 
>>
>> Thanks! 
>>
>> On Wednesday, January 17, 2024 at 8:10:08 AM UTC-8 Chris Fly wrote:
>>
>>> Bill,
>>>
>>> Good Stuff! I had pretty much written a Leo off as I really couldn't 
>>> find much feedback on it to be honest.. I got a few replies to my question, 
>>> but not a lot.. your report has it back on my radar! 
>>>
>>> Having been a big supporter of the Black Mountain Cycles brand and 
>>> having had a V1 Road and MC, I'd be curious how you would compare the BMC 
>>> Road and your Leo (in drop bar mode)? 
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Chris 
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, January 16, 2024 at 7:18:17 PM UTC-8 Bill Lindsay wrote:
>>>
 I posted a photo of the drop bar build that I had on that bike in 2018. 
  This thread links to that thread, and in that thread I posted a photo. 
  You should be able to find it. It doesn't look like I made a Flickr album 
 for that build so the detailed build photos are buried. 

 Bill Lindsay
 El Cerrito, CA



 On Tuesday, January 16, 2024 at 3:06:34 PM UTC-8 brenton...@gmail.com 
 wrote:

> Got a pic of your setup? I'm building a roadini at the moment and love 
> seeing others' builds. Would love to see it in it's brevet mode if it has 
> multiple modes.
>
> On Sunday, November 4, 2018 at 7:32:05 AM UTC-8 Bill Lindsay wrote:
>
>> Yesterday was the Del Puerto Canyon 200k brevet, hosted by San 
>> Francisco Randonneurs. Luckily for me the day remained conflict-free and 
>> I 
>> was able to do it.  It was the 26th RUSA event of my career of 200k or 
>> greater, and I logged my best time ever: 8 hours 18 minutes.  
>>
>> I woke up a little earlier than I needed to, at 4:45AM.  I was able 
>> to pack light because of the amazing weather forecast.  The Del Puerto 
>> Canyon 200k starts and finishes in Pleasanton, CA, just south of Mount 
>> Diablo.  The ride goes out and over the hills that make up the Altamont 
>> Pass,meanders through the flat farm roads around Tracy and Wesley, and 
>> then 
>> returns out and over the same hills via Del Puerto Canyon.  The forecast 
>> called for temps in the low 50s to start and venturing into the high 70s 
>> in 
>> some places.  So I wore bib-shorts, a light base layer, short sleeve 
>> jersey, arm warmers and a reflective vest.  The ride started at 8AM, 
>> which 
>> would be light enough to not require any lighting.  Sunset would come at 
>> about 6PM, so I did bring lights just in case I went over 10 hours.  I 
>> carried a little Cygolite Dart (from Riv), a battery taillight, and

[RBW] Re: Leo Roadini on Brevet--SFR Del Puerto Canyon 200k ride report

2024-01-17 Thread Bill Lindsay

fourflys wanted feedback on maybe buying a Leo.  

My general impression of your search for info is that you want it to be a 
racing bike that takes wide tires.  That's not what the Leo Roadini is, in 
my opinion.  The Leo Roadini is an evolved road bike.  It seemed to me you 
want a traditional or mainstream road bike, just one that takes wide tires 
and maybe says Rivendell on it.  In other words, you want a Roadeo, which 
is a lot more of a traditional or mainstream road racing bike that takes 
wide-ish tires.  

A big part of my "presence" on this board is to counterpoint the 
contrarians.  

On Wednesday, January 17, 2024 at 8:27:44 AM UTC-8 four...@gmail.com wrote:

> edit to my above reply- just read through Bill's post when he initially 
> built up Leo.. good stuff and good comparisons.. 
>
> Thanks! 
>
> On Wednesday, January 17, 2024 at 8:10:08 AM UTC-8 Chris Fly wrote:
>
>> Bill,
>>
>> Good Stuff! I had pretty much written a Leo off as I really couldn't find 
>> much feedback on it to be honest.. I got a few replies to my question, but 
>> not a lot.. your report has it back on my radar! 
>>
>> Having been a big supporter of the Black Mountain Cycles brand and having 
>> had a V1 Road and MC, I'd be curious how you would compare the BMC Road and 
>> your Leo (in drop bar mode)? 
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Chris 
>>
>> On Tuesday, January 16, 2024 at 7:18:17 PM UTC-8 Bill Lindsay wrote:
>>
>>> I posted a photo of the drop bar build that I had on that bike in 2018. 
>>>  This thread links to that thread, and in that thread I posted a photo. 
>>>  You should be able to find it. It doesn't look like I made a Flickr album 
>>> for that build so the detailed build photos are buried. 
>>>
>>> Bill Lindsay
>>> El Cerrito, CA
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, January 16, 2024 at 3:06:34 PM UTC-8 brenton...@gmail.com 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Got a pic of your setup? I'm building a roadini at the moment and love 
 seeing others' builds. Would love to see it in it's brevet mode if it has 
 multiple modes.

 On Sunday, November 4, 2018 at 7:32:05 AM UTC-8 Bill Lindsay wrote:

> Yesterday was the Del Puerto Canyon 200k brevet, hosted by San 
> Francisco Randonneurs. Luckily for me the day remained conflict-free and 
> I 
> was able to do it.  It was the 26th RUSA event of my career of 200k or 
> greater, and I logged my best time ever: 8 hours 18 minutes.  
>
> I woke up a little earlier than I needed to, at 4:45AM.  I was able to 
> pack light because of the amazing weather forecast.  The Del Puerto 
> Canyon 
> 200k starts and finishes in Pleasanton, CA, just south of Mount Diablo.  
> The ride goes out and over the hills that make up the Altamont 
> Pass,meanders through the flat farm roads around Tracy and Wesley, and 
> then 
> returns out and over the same hills via Del Puerto Canyon.  The forecast 
> called for temps in the low 50s to start and venturing into the high 70s 
> in 
> some places.  So I wore bib-shorts, a light base layer, short sleeve 
> jersey, arm warmers and a reflective vest.  The ride started at 8AM, 
> which 
> would be light enough to not require any lighting.  Sunset would come at 
> about 6PM, so I did bring lights just in case I went over 10 hours.  I 
> carried a little Cygolite Dart (from Riv), a battery taillight, and two 
> elastic head lamps that could serve as backup head or tail lights. I also 
> carried a USB battery stick in case I needed to boost my phone, Wahoo, or 
> headlight.  In my Ruthworks rackless Brevet bag went those lighting bits, 
> a 
> few bars, and a travel size sunscreen for when the armwarmers came off 
> and 
> the guns came out.  I made coffee and breakfast, got lubed up and dressed 
> and I was a good 25 minutes ahead of schedule.  I had planned to catch 
> the 
> 6:20AM Bart train, and it's a 5-minute bomb down the hill to get to the 
> Bart station.  I went ahead and decided to grab the 6:00AM train instead 
> and left early, and still had to wait on the platform for several 
> minutes.  
> The Fremont Train takes me down past Oakland to the transfer station at 
> Bay 
> Fair, where I transfer to a Pleasanton train to head over the hills in 
> Castro Valley out to the start. There was a delay due to track repair, 
> and 
> a chilly wait for my Pleasanton train, but I was still at the start with 
> my 
> card in plenty of time.  
>
> The turnout for this event was huge; the biggest ever for this event 
> which was first run in 2011.  ~150 randos had signed up, partially 
> because 
> of the great weather forecast, partially because there is always an 
> uptick 
> in participation the year before a PBP year, and partially because this 
> is 
> SFRs flattest 200k, with "only" 5300 ft of climbing. It was a huge bunch 
> that started off. I

[RBW] Re: FS -looong winter storm list

2024-01-17 Thread Ron Mc

Hi Rich, 
actually, my folks up the road made a big pot of soup and shared. a small 
pot with me - I've have to get the recipe from them.  
Trader Joe's sells he good tortilla chips for soup.  
Viner CX is matched with Ahearne MAP bar.  When I picked the stem, I took 
the measurements from the outside reach to my International with Moustache 
bar. 
Regards

On Tuesday, January 16, 2024 at 7:18:24 PM UTC-6 richdpow...@gmail.com 
wrote:

> Tortilla soup? I vote that recipe exchanges are on-topic! In this weather, 
> it is about survival with soup. :-) 
>
> Serious note: is that an Albatross bar on the Viner?
>
> -Rich, Colder than it should be in Iowa.
>
>
>
> On Tuesday, January 16, 2024 at 11:14:39 AM UTC-6 Ron Mc wrote:
>
> Make tortilla soup, pedal it off watching tv
>
>
>
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: If you plan to get a Roaduno..,

2024-01-17 Thread Patrick Moore

I'd be interested to hear others' experiences -- likes, dislikes, problems
-- with coaster brake wheels, ss or IGH. I've thought of a 3 speed coaster
brake wheel for the Libertas that I can alternate with a fixed gear wheel
as the frame has damaged cable housing guides on the tt and I don't like
full housing runs to the rear brake.

I've read that coaster brakes always have some drag, but I can't say I
noticed this on the last 3-speed coaster brake wheel I rode on my then
10-12 year-old daughter's Electra Townie 3i. It seemed to ride pretty well,
but this was very occasionally and 10+ years ago. The Libertas has 126 mm
spacing.

Has anyone considered a kickback hub for the Roaduno?

[Tangent: Current thinking about Libertas -- with Monocog replacement on
hold; room for another topic, but Jones ...? --- and I "need" a fun beater
to lock up outside the library and so on, is to turn build the Libertas
into a stripped-down all rounder with nice-rolling 38 mm tires for outside
lockup and firm-path bosque bashing.]

On Wed, Jan 17, 2024 at 4:25 AM iamkeith  wrote:

>
>
> On Tuesday, January 16, 2024 at 1:54:57 PM UTC-7 aeroperf wrote:
>
> Whups.  My shopping bike is 130mm.  Looks like I'll have to fix it rather
> than cannibalize it for a Roaduno.
>
> It would be pretty easy to spread the frame by 10mm, given the longish
> chainstays we'reseeing on the prototypes..  Or maybe you can remove a
> spacer on  one or both sides of the axle, and re-dish the  wheel?
>
> To the original question, I've been thinking about a 3 speed / coaster
> brake too.  If not using caliper brakes allows for a little fatter tire,
> like 55 or 60mm, it will nudge  me even further that way.
>
> I'm watching this from a classic N+1 starting point.  I don't need a new
> bike - especially since I already have a Quickbeam - but was excited when
> the Roaduno was going to be based on the Clem.  I would definitely use a
> simple, low-maintenance, weather-proof, mud-proof and sand-proof,
> baloon-tired, cruiser sort of thing... that isnt crappy.   The ability to
> use 3 speed IGHs is the best thing about horizontal dropouts, once the
> single-speed novelty wears off.
>
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[RBW] Re: Leo Roadini on Brevet--SFR Del Puerto Canyon 200k ride report

2024-01-17 Thread Chris Fly

edit to my above reply- just read through Bill's post when he initially 
built up Leo.. good stuff and good comparisons.. 

Thanks! 

On Wednesday, January 17, 2024 at 8:10:08 AM UTC-8 Chris Fly wrote:

> Bill,
>
> Good Stuff! I had pretty much written a Leo off as I really couldn't find 
> much feedback on it to be honest.. I got a few replies to my question, but 
> not a lot.. your report has it back on my radar! 
>
> Having been a big supporter of the Black Mountain Cycles brand and having 
> had a V1 Road and MC, I'd be curious how you would compare the BMC Road and 
> your Leo (in drop bar mode)? 
>
> Thanks,
> Chris 
>
> On Tuesday, January 16, 2024 at 7:18:17 PM UTC-8 Bill Lindsay wrote:
>
>> I posted a photo of the drop bar build that I had on that bike in 2018. 
>>  This thread links to that thread, and in that thread I posted a photo. 
>>  You should be able to find it. It doesn't look like I made a Flickr album 
>> for that build so the detailed build photos are buried. 
>>
>> Bill Lindsay
>> El Cerrito, CA
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tuesday, January 16, 2024 at 3:06:34 PM UTC-8 brenton...@gmail.com 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Got a pic of your setup? I'm building a roadini at the moment and love 
>>> seeing others' builds. Would love to see it in it's brevet mode if it has 
>>> multiple modes.
>>>
>>> On Sunday, November 4, 2018 at 7:32:05 AM UTC-8 Bill Lindsay wrote:
>>>
 Yesterday was the Del Puerto Canyon 200k brevet, hosted by San 
 Francisco Randonneurs. Luckily for me the day remained conflict-free and I 
 was able to do it.  It was the 26th RUSA event of my career of 200k or 
 greater, and I logged my best time ever: 8 hours 18 minutes.  

 I woke up a little earlier than I needed to, at 4:45AM.  I was able to 
 pack light because of the amazing weather forecast.  The Del Puerto Canyon 
 200k starts and finishes in Pleasanton, CA, just south of Mount Diablo.  
 The ride goes out and over the hills that make up the Altamont 
 Pass,meanders through the flat farm roads around Tracy and Wesley, and 
 then 
 returns out and over the same hills via Del Puerto Canyon.  The forecast 
 called for temps in the low 50s to start and venturing into the high 70s 
 in 
 some places.  So I wore bib-shorts, a light base layer, short sleeve 
 jersey, arm warmers and a reflective vest.  The ride started at 8AM, which 
 would be light enough to not require any lighting.  Sunset would come at 
 about 6PM, so I did bring lights just in case I went over 10 hours.  I 
 carried a little Cygolite Dart (from Riv), a battery taillight, and two 
 elastic head lamps that could serve as backup head or tail lights. I also 
 carried a USB battery stick in case I needed to boost my phone, Wahoo, or 
 headlight.  In my Ruthworks rackless Brevet bag went those lighting bits, 
 a 
 few bars, and a travel size sunscreen for when the armwarmers came off and 
 the guns came out.  I made coffee and breakfast, got lubed up and dressed 
 and I was a good 25 minutes ahead of schedule.  I had planned to catch the 
 6:20AM Bart train, and it's a 5-minute bomb down the hill to get to the 
 Bart station.  I went ahead and decided to grab the 6:00AM train instead 
 and left early, and still had to wait on the platform for several minutes. 

 The Fremont Train takes me down past Oakland to the transfer station at 
 Bay 
 Fair, where I transfer to a Pleasanton train to head over the hills in 
 Castro Valley out to the start. There was a delay due to track repair, and 
 a chilly wait for my Pleasanton train, but I was still at the start with 
 my 
 card in plenty of time.  

 The turnout for this event was huge; the biggest ever for this event 
 which was first run in 2011.  ~150 randos had signed up, partially because 
 of the great weather forecast, partially because there is always an uptick 
 in participation the year before a PBP year, and partially because this is 
 SFRs flattest 200k, with "only" 5300 ft of climbing. It was a huge bunch 
 that started off. I didn't want to get sucked up with any of the 'too 
 fast' 
 groups, so I looked for familiar SFR riders who I knew were in my 
 time-zone 
 and hung with them for the first ~15 miles through the urban streets of 
 Pleasanton and Livermore before the first climb began. That first climb 
 was 
 around 1200ft, with a gradually increasing grade all along its length, 
 topping off at around 10% at the peak. This did a good job of stretching 
 out the riders, and there was essentially no traffic so it was a great 
 time 
 to move up. I was feeling good, so I left the familiar group behind and 
 passed a lot of slower riders. I was aiming for a decent time, and one way 
 to make a good time is to not waste a lot of time at controls. The first 
 control threatened to be a time

[RBW] Re: Leo Roadini on Brevet--SFR Del Puerto Canyon 200k ride report

2024-01-17 Thread Chris Fly

Bill,

Good Stuff! I had pretty much written a Leo off as I really couldn't find 
much feedback on it to be honest.. I got a few replies to my question, but 
not a lot.. your report has it back on my radar! 

Having been a big supporter of the Black Mountain Cycles brand and having 
had a V1 Road and MC, I'd be curious how you would compare the BMC Road and 
your Leo (in drop bar mode)? 

Thanks,
Chris 

On Tuesday, January 16, 2024 at 7:18:17 PM UTC-8 Bill Lindsay wrote:

> I posted a photo of the drop bar build that I had on that bike in 2018. 
>  This thread links to that thread, and in that thread I posted a photo. 
>  You should be able to find it. It doesn't look like I made a Flickr album 
> for that build so the detailed build photos are buried. 
>
> Bill Lindsay
> El Cerrito, CA
>
>
>
> On Tuesday, January 16, 2024 at 3:06:34 PM UTC-8 brenton...@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>
>> Got a pic of your setup? I'm building a roadini at the moment and love 
>> seeing others' builds. Would love to see it in it's brevet mode if it has 
>> multiple modes.
>>
>> On Sunday, November 4, 2018 at 7:32:05 AM UTC-8 Bill Lindsay wrote:
>>
>>> Yesterday was the Del Puerto Canyon 200k brevet, hosted by San Francisco 
>>> Randonneurs. Luckily for me the day remained conflict-free and I was able 
>>> to do it.  It was the 26th RUSA event of my career of 200k or greater, and 
>>> I logged my best time ever: 8 hours 18 minutes.  
>>>
>>> I woke up a little earlier than I needed to, at 4:45AM.  I was able to 
>>> pack light because of the amazing weather forecast.  The Del Puerto Canyon 
>>> 200k starts and finishes in Pleasanton, CA, just south of Mount Diablo.  
>>> The ride goes out and over the hills that make up the Altamont 
>>> Pass,meanders through the flat farm roads around Tracy and Wesley, and then 
>>> returns out and over the same hills via Del Puerto Canyon.  The forecast 
>>> called for temps in the low 50s to start and venturing into the high 70s in 
>>> some places.  So I wore bib-shorts, a light base layer, short sleeve 
>>> jersey, arm warmers and a reflective vest.  The ride started at 8AM, which 
>>> would be light enough to not require any lighting.  Sunset would come at 
>>> about 6PM, so I did bring lights just in case I went over 10 hours.  I 
>>> carried a little Cygolite Dart (from Riv), a battery taillight, and two 
>>> elastic head lamps that could serve as backup head or tail lights. I also 
>>> carried a USB battery stick in case I needed to boost my phone, Wahoo, or 
>>> headlight.  In my Ruthworks rackless Brevet bag went those lighting bits, a 
>>> few bars, and a travel size sunscreen for when the armwarmers came off and 
>>> the guns came out.  I made coffee and breakfast, got lubed up and dressed 
>>> and I was a good 25 minutes ahead of schedule.  I had planned to catch the 
>>> 6:20AM Bart train, and it's a 5-minute bomb down the hill to get to the 
>>> Bart station.  I went ahead and decided to grab the 6:00AM train instead 
>>> and left early, and still had to wait on the platform for several minutes.  
>>> The Fremont Train takes me down past Oakland to the transfer station at Bay 
>>> Fair, where I transfer to a Pleasanton train to head over the hills in 
>>> Castro Valley out to the start. There was a delay due to track repair, and 
>>> a chilly wait for my Pleasanton train, but I was still at the start with my 
>>> card in plenty of time.  
>>>
>>> The turnout for this event was huge; the biggest ever for this event 
>>> which was first run in 2011.  ~150 randos had signed up, partially because 
>>> of the great weather forecast, partially because there is always an uptick 
>>> in participation the year before a PBP year, and partially because this is 
>>> SFRs flattest 200k, with "only" 5300 ft of climbing. It was a huge bunch 
>>> that started off. I didn't want to get sucked up with any of the 'too fast' 
>>> groups, so I looked for familiar SFR riders who I knew were in my time-zone 
>>> and hung with them for the first ~15 miles through the urban streets of 
>>> Pleasanton and Livermore before the first climb began. That first climb was 
>>> around 1200ft, with a gradually increasing grade all along its length, 
>>> topping off at around 10% at the peak. This did a good job of stretching 
>>> out the riders, and there was essentially no traffic so it was a great time 
>>> to move up. I was feeling good, so I left the familiar group behind and 
>>> passed a lot of slower riders. I was aiming for a decent time, and one way 
>>> to make a good time is to not waste a lot of time at controls. The first 
>>> control threatened to be a time sink if you arrive within a few minutes of 
>>> a lot of other riders, because there would be only one volunteer to stamp 
>>> your card, while a second volunteer checks your name on the roster. I was 
>>> motivated to move up if I could, and I found a great rhythm on Leo. 
>>> Checking my Strava, the majority of the climb is captured in the "Tesla

Re: [RBW] OK to post non Rivendell bikes for sale here?

2024-01-17 Thread Steve

RMRose -  a Gus has taken the place of your  Ibis Mojo 3.  I love it - good 
on you!   You might try listing the Ibis on BoingBoingShredSleds.com   (I 
just made that up, please forgive my warped attempt at humor)  

Seriously though, what could be more Rivendellian than choosing a Clem for 
mountain biking?

On Tuesday, January 16, 2024 at 11:54:01 PM UTC-5 CMR wrote:

> Great bike, unfortunately off-topic, I can't imagine Grant on a carbon 
> full-suspension!
>
> On Tuesday, January 16, 2024 at 3:05:43 PM UTC-8 rmro...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> 2019 Ibis Mojo 3, size large. Fits more like a medium. I am 5’10”. Riv 
>> content? My Gus has taken it’s place.
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Jan 16, 2024, at 4:38 PM, Steve  wrote:
>>
>> You've piqued my curiosity - what's the bike?
>>
>> Steve
>>
>> On Tuesday, January 16, 2024 at 12:57:17 PM UTC-5 Patrick Moore wrote:
>>
>>> The moderator and others can correct me, but I think that if the bike in 
>>> question is relatively aligned with Rivendell tastes and might appeal to 
>>> list members -- if it's generally Rivendellian in taste -- it will be fine. 
>>> I would not post a FS for a modern CF road bike or downhill mountain bike 
>>> here.
>>>
>>> On Tue, Jan 16, 2024 at 10:41 AM Richard Rose  wrote:
>>>
 I am still new here & do not want to violate an rules. But, I do have a 
 bicycle that I would like to sell and thought others here might be 
 interested. I will not post here until I hear if it is acceptable. Thanks! 

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[RBW] Re: If you plan to get a Roaduno..,

2024-01-17 Thread Bill Lindsay

I'm still in the 3x1 camp.  I want to see who can be the first Rivendell 
Customer to ride their Roaduno to the summit of Mount Diablo.  I've got a 
3x1 Rivendell now and I planning  to try to ride it to the summit of Mount 
Diablo this Spring.  If anybody rides a coaster brake Roaduno to the summit 
of Mount Diablo, that would be a whole different thing.  

Bill Lindsay
El Cerrito, CA

On Tuesday, January 16, 2024 at 10:09:06 AM UTC-8 rmro...@gmail.com wrote:

> would you consider a coaster brake hub of some sort?

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Re: [RBW] Re: RAGBRAI?

2024-01-17 Thread matt miller

I wonder if it will start close to Omaha this year since it was the 
northern route last year? 
A very good friend did it last summer. He got an RV, and his wife drove 
(and worked remote). He reserved a lot of RV spots that were NOT with the 
main group. Had a blast, but a couple of those days were pretty rough. I 
think last year was one of the toughest years.

Is BRAN still happening? As a photojournalist in Omaha, I covered RAGBRAI a 
couple years, and also went out to BRAN once. I thought the BRAN folks were 
pretty hardcore.

Matt in STL

On Wednesday, January 17, 2024 at 12:21:49 AM UTC-6 John Dewey wrote:

> I snapped a shot one RAGBRAI of a bank clock at 6 pm sharp. Still 106F. 
> Thank goodness for plenty of cold beer. 
>
> Jock
>
> On Tue, Jan 16, 2024 at 2:50 PM Sarah Carlson  
> wrote:
>
>> Just watched the RAGBRAI documentary and can totally understand how you 
>> could be called to join a community of riders who support each other 
>> through an exciting challenge. It makes me want to go too except for 
>> when I heard one of the guys commenting, "It's 105 degrees." That gave me 
>> pause! 
>>
>> On Monday, January 15, 2024 at 3:33:07 PM UTC-8 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Who knows about Bike Film Festival? 
>>>
>>> I paid for the pass to watch this year’s videos and it was money 
>>> well-spent. I got to the RAGBRAI documentary last night. Wow. I had heard 
>>> of it but really knew nothing about it and now I would just love to figure 
>>> out how to ride it this year. It just looks like such an experience. And 
>>> I’ve had very few experiences, because I’m late to the bike adventure scene 
>>> AND I’ve been raising kids! But now they are teenagers and might not even 
>>> know that I’m gone so maybe I should ride this epic ride!
>>>
>>> There are a ton of logistics I don’t understand. I think you need a 
>>> “charter” to haul your stuff, yes? And to bring you back across the state 
>>> after you finish? And if you use these “charters” do they trash your bike 
>>> in their racks or will they have something that can handle a a mixte with 
>>> fenders? Is there are charter that is more friendly to Riv bikes than the 
>>> others?
>>>
>>> Also, no camping. I’m really hoping to end up in a hotel or some sort of 
>>> dwelling. I don’t have any tents, don’t know how to pitch tents and so on. 
>>> This may be the thing I can’t plan my way out of, because there are so many 
>>> riders moving through tiny host towns.
>>>
>>> I’ll look up more info tonight after I get my chores done! But it really 
>>> is so exciting to imagine riding my bike across a whole state… Also, it’s 
>>> Real Winter here in Michigan, so maybe that’s why this hits different.
>>>
>>> Leah
>>>
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[RBW] Re: If you plan to get a Roaduno..,

2024-01-17 Thread JohnS

Maybe a 2 speed kick back hub with coaster brake would make sense? No 
cables, simple set up.

https://www.sturmey-archer.com/en/products/detail/s2c-silver

JohnS

On Wednesday, January 17, 2024 at 6:25:47 AM UTC-5 iamkeith wrote:

> On Tuesday, January 16, 2024 at 1:54:57 PM UTC-7 aeroperf wrote:
>
> Whups.  My shopping bike is 130mm.  Looks like I'll have to fix it rather 
> than cannibalize it for a Roaduno.
>
>
> It would be pretty easy to spread the frame by 10mm, given the longish 
> chainstays we'reseeing on the prototypes..  Or maybe you can remove a 
> spacer on  one or both sides of the axle, and re-dish the  wheel? 
>
> To the original question, I've been thinking about a 3 speed / coaster 
> brake too.  If not using caliper brakes allows for a little fatter tire, 
> like 55 or 60mm, it will nudge  me even further that way.  
>
> I'm watching this from a classic N+1 starting point.  I don't need a new 
> bike - especially since I already have a Quickbeam - but was excited when 
> the Roaduno was going to be based on the Clem.  I would definitely use a 
> simple, low-maintenance, weather-proof, mud-proof and sand-proof, 
> baloon-tired, cruiser sort of thing... that isnt crappy.   The ability to 
> use 3 speed IGHs is the best thing about horizontal dropouts, once the 
> single-speed novelty wears off.
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[RBW] Re: If you plan to get a Roaduno..,

2024-01-17 Thread iamkeith



On Tuesday, January 16, 2024 at 1:54:57 PM UTC-7 aeroperf wrote:

Whups.  My shopping bike is 130mm.  Looks like I'll have to fix it rather 
than cannibalize it for a Roaduno.


It would be pretty easy to spread the frame by 10mm, given the longish 
chainstays we'reseeing on the prototypes..  Or maybe you can remove a 
spacer on  one or both sides of the axle, and re-dish the  wheel? 

To the original question, I've been thinking about a 3 speed / coaster 
brake too.  If not using caliper brakes allows for a little fatter tire, 
like 55 or 60mm, it will nudge  me even further that way.  

I'm watching this from a classic N+1 starting point.  I don't need a new 
bike - especially since I already have a Quickbeam - but was excited when 
the Roaduno was going to be based on the Clem.  I would definitely use a 
simple, low-maintenance, weather-proof, mud-proof and sand-proof, 
baloon-tired, cruiser sort of thing... that isnt crappy.   The ability to 
use 3 speed IGHs is the best thing about horizontal dropouts, once the 
single-speed novelty wears off.

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[RBW] Re: ISO: Frame Pump Zefal HpX 1 or Acceptable Alternate

2024-01-17 Thread Ed Carolipio

Hi Christian,

Topeak makes a frame pump for the global market. You can locate new ones 
from international sellers on eBay. The 4349 has the same spec lengths as 
the HPX-1.
https://www.topeak.com/global/en/product/235-ROAD-MASTERBLASTER.

The top-of-the-line Silca Ultimate II went down in price recently, and is 
actually on sale for $75 until Jan 21. Unfortunately, I think the Small is 
all sold out. Check suppliers to see if they matched Silca's price.
https://silca.cc/collections/silca-supersecret-semi-anual-sale/products/impero-ultimate-ii-frame-pump-memorial-day-sale?variant=40350946492514

Good luck,
Ed C.
Redondo Beach, CA

On Tuesday, January 16, 2024 at 11:43:21 AM UTC-8 christian poppell wrote:

> Hi Gang, 
>
> I'm looking for a HPX-1 for a 50cm Platypus. Space between the peg and 
> headtube is 410mm. Looking to pay retail for like new and less if the pump 
> is used. 
>
> Also, if anyone has a good alternative I'm all ears with the HPX out of 
> production. 
>
> Thanks! 
> Christian
> Phoenix, AZ
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