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Re: [RBW] Re: Lugged Roadini and Charlie H Gallup

2024-05-05 Thread Paul M

I purchased a Sergio green Roadini from the last run of framesets. The tig 
welding on this frame had some very poor welding beads. Definitely not what 
I would expect on a $1300 frame. Maybe it was just this frame, but I feel 
that it certainly could have been on the other Roadini's. That could 
explain the move to a lugged Roadini frame. I sold it and bought a mustard 
Homer (lugged :).

On Sunday 5 May 2024 at 18:55:16 UTC-7 Jason Fuller wrote:

> Good info Valerie!  As the reviewer you are noting, yep, I can totally see 
> what you mean and I agree that what I was using it for wasn't quite right 
> for what it was as a bike. My Hillborne is actually the perfect bike for 
> what I was trying to do. 
>
> I'd bet the production version of the CHG will be less wiggly too, just 
> visually going by the diameter of the top tube. I am sure it's still got 
> nice springy flex, though. Seems like it's basically a longer wheelbase 
> Homer, which seems absolutely perfect for a certain someone who appears to 
> already know this bike is perfect for their club ride needs. 
>
> On Sunday 5 May 2024 at 16:33:07 UTC-7 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! wrote:
>
>> Valerie, I would love to hear every single thing you say about this bike. 
>> Do you have sweepy bars? Drop bars? Have you ridden it on a club ride? Do 
>> you find it to be quick and lively? What was the reason you bought your 
>> Charlie? 
>>
>> I don’t know why the lugged Roadini, either. Anyone know?
>> Leah
>>
>> On May 5, 2024, at 7:00 PM, Valerie Yates  wrote:
>>
>> I just finished tweaking the set up on my 2022 Gallop demo - purple with 
>> swoop tube, non-canti version. It rides like a dream. Super silky and 
>> nimble. One mistake I had made was to install a heavy duty pannier rack on 
>> it. It made the bike feel very noodley. I was tempted to sell it. I think 
>> that's why this reviewer 
>> 
>>  
>> complained about its flex. He shows it with the same rack I initially had 
>> on it. 
>>
>>
>> When I switched to a top rack, since it was only being used for my tail 
>> light and lock, everything came together. Now, I love it for unloaded 
>> riding on rough and hilly local roads. I have a huge smile whenever I am 
>> riding it. So just chiming in with a note of caution in setting it up for 
>> its intended purpose. It is not meant as a loaded touring bike and, even 
>> without a load, a rack that is too stiff will impact its performance. 
>>  Can't wait to see the set-ups on the production models. 
>>
>> On Sunday, May 5, 2024 at 2:44:51 PM UTC-6 Johnny Alien wrote:
>>
>>> I'm curious about the whole lugged Roadini thing now. The Susie I 
>>> understand because its a cost/time of manufacture thing but in the case of 
>>> the Roadini it basically is just upping the cost. Unless the feeling is 
>>> that a lugged model will just sell better regardless of a higher price.
>>>
>>> On Sunday, May 5, 2024 at 3:35:27 PM UTC-4 Tim Bantham wrote:
>>>
 I saw the mention of the lugged Roadini. I am 99% certain I will order 
 one once they become available. 

 On Sunday, May 5, 2024 at 3:17:24 PM UTC-4 Joe Bernard wrote:

> "Your friend would be *more* thrilled if this bike was coming in July 
> or something. Like, during riding season!"
>
> I concede that this would be better!
>
> On Sunday, May 5, 2024 at 10:12:37 AM UTC-7 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
> wrote:
>
>> Your friend would be *more* thrilled if this bike was coming in July 
>> or something. Like, during riding season!
>>
>> On Sunday, May 5, 2024 at 12:22:45 PM UTC-4 Joe Bernard wrote:
>>
>>> Doug, 
>>>
>>> My understanding (which may be wrong, my memory for stuff I read a 
>>> while ago seems to have left me as I recently approached my 62nd 
>>> birthday) 
>>> is the CHG will also be lugged and probably not cheap. It will be 
>>> longer-stayed than the Roadini. It's coming September! I know at least 
>>> one 
>>> friend of ours who will be thrilled with this news. 
>>>
>>> Joe Bernard 
>>>
>>> On Sunday, May 5, 2024 at 9:04:26 AM UTC-7 Doug H. wrote:
>>>
 Grant's most recent Blahg mentioned the frame schedule and the 
 upcoming *Lugged *Roadini. It seems the Charlie H Gallup may 
 replace the Roadini as the partially lugged more affordable road bike. 
 I 
 appreciate the cream colored head tubes and full lugs but I also 
 really 
 like my solid Mermaid Roadini so I don't feel like I'm missing out. 

 Will the Charlie H Gallup be longer than the Roadini? If so, I do 
 think it might work better for me but we shall see. For those waiting 
 for 
 the CHG, Grant lists them as coming in September.

 Doug

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[RBW] Re: FFS: bicycle sentences journal

2024-04-30 Thread Paul Richardson

the book is on its way to michigan.

thanks all
paul

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[RBW] FFS: bicycle sentences journal

2024-04-30 Thread Paul Richardson

i've got a copy of the older edition, which is spiral bound and has spaces 
to log details about your ride.  no writing in mine.  send me $5 paypal f+f 
and it's all yours.

paul
takoma park, md.

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Re: [RBW] Rivendell Roadbike Curious

2024-04-25 Thread Paul G

One thing, I think, that separates Riv road bikes from other brands is the 
maintaining of good fit AND handling geometry at the smaller frame sizes 
this thread is dealing with. The 700c wheel size has to be dealt with 
because they physically "get in the way" of good geometry more as the 
frames become smaller (because the wheels stay the same size).

Regarding the Roadeo specifically, this frame was designed with club 
riding, and even tight peloton riding, in mind so the maneuverability is 
the quickest of all the Riv road bikes. Moreover, sizes smaller than 59cm 
get thinner, superlight tubing (down to 4mm bellies) in the main triangle. 
This is assuming the current models still adhere to the original design. So 
it's lighter and perhaps more lively than the equivalent Roadini. Finally, 
it has more of the look of a classic road bike with its nearly level top 
tube.

So the Roadeo becomes more unique from the other models in the smaller 
sizes. 

I've been riding a Roadeo for 10 years now and love it.

On Thursday, April 25, 2024 at 6:02:56 PM UTC-7 Tony Lockhart wrote:

> [image: Screenshot 2024-04-25 at 6.00.23 PM.png]
> @Leah -- Your Platypii are 55's, no? Might be fun to compare the numbers. 
> ;)
> On Thursday, April 25, 2024 at 4:45:35 PM UTC-7 Jason Fuller wrote:
>
>> Wow, I show up late and there are ten thousand replies already which is 
>> too many to read through now 
>>
>> My initial thought is that going from the racing platy's very upright 
>> position all the way to a drop bar road bike is a huge jump. I have to say, 
>> drop bars are truly the best in headwinds, but getting a sweep bar setup 
>> that allows you to get low and stretch out reaching the forward 'hooks' can 
>> be a great compromise between those situations and lower-effort riding.  
>>
>> If it were me, I'd swap the Rasplaty's bar and stem to the longest of the 
>> new 90-190 stems and a Choco bar; I'd then set up the controls so that you 
>> can slide your hands all the way to the front curves without having stuff 
>> in the way (bar end shifters are great for this!) and wrap this area in 
>> Newbaums.  Then I'd slam the stem down as low as you can get away with - 
>> bars nearly at saddle level, probably. 
>>
>> I don't know if this exact thing has already been said, nor what reaction 
>> may already have been provided, so apologies if I'm being an echo!  Pocket 
>> Platy might actually be short enough you can run drop bars on it, but you'd 
>> need a very short stem to pull it off - the Nitto / Crust 'BJ' stem should 
>> do the trick; it's what I used to get my Bombadil set up with drops at an 
>> appropriate reach for me and has that classic Nitto finish and quality. 
>>
>>   
>>
>> On Thursday 25 April 2024 at 10:47:38 UTC-7 Bill Lindsay wrote:
>>
>>> Bending those "BL" rules forced me to concede that the front derailleur 
>>> I chose for my 3x1 build was too crappy.  I kind of smugly used the 
>>> crappiest front derailleur in my bin, because friction shifted front 
>>> derailleurs are a dime a dozen.  The crappiest one (old Deer Head) proved 
>>> to be too crappy.  Thanks to this ride I tossed the bike in the stand and 
>>> put a much nicer FD on there, and now my 3x1 Rom (code name "RoadTrio") 
>>> satisfies another VERY important category.  That category is "every bike 
>>> should have one Campy part".  Now with a Mirage Triple FD, RoadTrio is in 
>>> the club.  
>>>
>>> Bill Lindsay
>>> El Cerrito, CA
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, April 23, 2024 at 2:52:35 PM UTC-7 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 It’s an honor to have the Bill Lindsay Rules bent for our delight here. 
 We await. Bated breath, and all that jazz!

 On Apr 23, 2024, at 5:51 PM, Bill Lindsay  wrote:

 "Let’s both Rom-ride this summer! We could even do it in Michigan! "


 I need to grab a bike right now to head over to the dentist.  I'm going 
 to break my own self-imposed rule and ride my Romulus on its first ride. 
  Pics will prove it.

 Bill Lindsay
 El Cerrito, CA


 On Tuesday, April 23, 2024 at 1:02:31 PM UTC-7 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
 wrote:

> Let’s both Rom-ride this summer! We could even do it in Michigan! 
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Apr 23, 2024, at 3:46 PM, Bill Lindsay  wrote:
>
> I think that falls into Joe Bernard's recommendation of taking a 
> flyer on a used Rivendell at decent price.  Love it if you can and sell 
> it 
> if you find you can't love it.  Go for it if you can stand over it. 
>
>
> I bought a used 59cm Romulus this year, and built it but haven't 
> ridden it, because of my weird self-imposed mileage quota system.  But I 
> will be Rom-riding this summer!
>
> BL in EC
>
> On Tuesday, April 23, 2024 at 12:33:00 PM UTC-7 Bicycle Belle Ding 
> Ding! wrote:
>
>> So I found a 55 cm Romulus for $1250. What do we think of THAT?
>>
>> On Apr 23, 2024, at

Re: [RBW] WTB - 9spd Dura Ace downtube shifters

2024-04-11 Thread 'Paul Germain' via RBW Owners Bunch

Hey Eric,
He wants a set badly. But he does not do the Google forums, so I offered to put
it out there for him. I found a set NOS for $180 and used for $160, which I
thought was an OK price, but not sure he took advantage.
I hope you are well and getting some riding in.
Paul
On Thursday, April 11, 2024 at 08:04:13 PM EDT, Eric Marth
wrote:

Paul — Is Greg trying to bling his Roadini?

On Thursday, April 11, 2024 at 12:22:38 PM UTC-4 bmfo...@gmail.com wrote:

I don't have any for sale but I can confirm they are worth the $$. Beautiful
component with a satisfying click in index mode and if your bike has a
light-ish downtube you can even hear the 'ping' resonate the frame a little
bit. At least that's what I think I'm hearing on my waterford homer I have a
set on.
I too wish i had the matching long cage derailleur.

On Thursday, April 11, 2024 at 10:11:24 AM UTC-5 James Valiensi wrote:

Hi,I bought a NOS set from Alex Cycles in Japan a couple years ago. Paid $90.
The set they replaced was installed in 2002 and were a bit loose. So, they last
about 20-years.I wish I had the matching derailleur.

On Apr 11, 2024, at 7:50 AM, John Dewey wrote:

Who among us has used Dura-Ace 9-speed dt levers long enough to ‘wear them
out’?
And if so, how long?
Jock
On Wed, Apr 10, 2024 at 2:28 PM Ted Durant wrote:

On Wednesday, April 10, 2024 at 2:48:19 PM UTC-5 Bill Lindsay wrote:

Also, you can get brand new 9sp bar cons from Rivendell at $140, and elsewhere
for a few dollars less. Some people run bar cons on their down tube shifter
bosses, and they work long fine.

FYI, Grant tells me that he thinks Shimano has stopped making the 9sp bar-end
shifters "after 25 or 26 years of making them". Get 'em while you can, and
expect the price to get eye-watering.
And, yes, you can run them on the down tube. Interesting bit of RBW history ...
I pointed this out to Grant a long time ago, and that the opposite was true,
that downtube shifters could be mounted on Shimano bar-end pods. And thus were
born the Silver 1 bar-end shifters.
Ted DurantMilwaukee WI USA
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Re: [RBW] Re: WTB - 9spd Dura Ace downtube shifters

2024-04-10 Thread 'Paul Germain' via RBW Owners Bunch

 Many thanks Max. I will r=forward to my friend.
Regards,Paul Germain
On Wednesday, April 10, 2024 at 05:34:50 PM EDT, maxcr 
 wrote:  
 
 Here's an expensive set NOS 9 speed 7700 model $225 (no connection to the 
seller): 
https://cincinnati.craigslist.org/bop/d/mason-nos-shimano-dura-ace-7700/7721948827.htmlAnd
 a used set at a great price $70 for the 10 speed 7800 model (no connection to 
the seller): 
https://minneapolis.craigslist.org/hnp/bop/d/saint-paul-shimano-dura-ace-sl-speed/7721310412.htmlMax

On Wednesday, April 10, 2024 at 5:27:57 PM UTC-4 Ted Durant wrote:

On Wednesday, April 10, 2024 at 2:48:19 PM UTC-5 Bill Lindsay wrote:

Also, you can get brand new 9sp bar cons from Rivendell at $140, and elsewhere 
for a few dollars less.  Some people run bar cons on their down tube shifter 
bosses, and they work fine.

 FYI, Grant tells me that he thinks Shimano has stopped making the 9sp bar-end 
shifters "after 25 or 26 years of making them". Get 'em while you can, and 
expect the price to get eye-watering. 
And, yes, you can run them on the down tube. Interesting bit of RBW history ... 
I pointed this out to Grant a long time ago, and that the opposite was true, 
that downtube shifters could be mounted on Shimano bar-end pods. And thus were 
born the Silver 1 bar-end shifters.
Ted DurantMilwaukee WI USA 


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Re: [RBW] Re: WTB - 9spd Dura Ace downtube shifters

2024-04-10 Thread 'Paul Germain' via RBW Owners Bunch

 Thanks Ted. I will pass this along to my friend.
Regards,Paul Germain


On Wednesday, April 10, 2024 at 05:28:07 PM EDT, Ted Durant 
 wrote:  
 
 On Wednesday, April 10, 2024 at 2:48:19 PM UTC-5 Bill Lindsay wrote:

Also, you can get brand new 9sp bar cons from Rivendell at $140, and elsewhere 
for a few dollars less.  Some people run bar cons on their down tube shifter 
bosses, and they work fine.

 FYI, Grant tells me that he thinks Shimano has stopped making the 9sp bar-end 
shifters "after 25 or 26 years of making them". Get 'em while you can, and 
expect the price to get eye-watering. 
And, yes, you can run them on the down tube. Interesting bit of RBW history ... 
I pointed this out to Grant a long time ago, and that the opposite was true, 
that downtube shifters could be mounted on Shimano bar-end pods. And thus were 
born the Silver 1 bar-end shifters.
Ted DurantMilwaukee WI USA 

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Re: [RBW] Re: WTB - 9spd Dura Ace downtube shifters

2024-04-10 Thread 'Paul Germain' via RBW Owners Bunch

Thanks Bill. I will pass this along to my friend. I think he did check eBay
was put off by prices.
Regards,Paul Germain
On Wednesday, April 10, 2024 at 03:48:27 PM EDT, Bill Lindsay
wrote:

It's not a unicorn. It's just very very old. Find them on eBay for $150 to
$200. They are worth every penny, IMO. I think the best price I ever paid for
used ones here on I-Bob was around $50, but that was a situation where I
pounced the moment they were offered, and they went into my own inventory.
Does your friend have a budget? Also, you can get brand new 9sp bar cons from
Rivendell at $140, and elsewhere for a few dollars less. Some people run bar
cons on their down tube shifter bosses, and they work fine.
Bill LindsayEl Cerrito, CA

On Tuesday, April 9, 2024 at 8:22:46 PM UTC-7 Bikie#4646 wrote:

Asking for a good friend. I can facilitate the sale.Is this a unicorn?
Paul GermainMidlothian, Va.

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Re: [RBW] Re: Eroica California

2024-04-09 Thread 'Paul Germain' via RBW Owners Bunch

Thanks for the explanation Bill. Sorry for the late-night typos.Your stable is
envy-inducing.
Paul Germain

On Tuesday, April 9, 2024 at 11:17:37 AM EDT, Bill Lindsay
wrote:

Paul asked: "Question: Is this bike taller then you usual?" in reference to
my Univega.
I guess that depends on what you mean by "taller" and what you mean by "usual".
I have six vintage level top tube road bikes in my stable, and I would not
consider the Univega "taller" than the other five. I'm a Stack and Reach guy,
and in order to get the Stack and Reach I want/need on a vintage road frame
with a level top tube, I'm looking at a solid "Large" frame size. Even though
I'm 5'10". Back in my teens and twenties I fit these bikes more like racing
bikes and I would have been in the "Medium" range. I also have two
contemporary level-top-tube bikes and those have a similar silhouette to the
vintage machines. Those 8 bikes have a "fist of seatpost" as is typical.
My modern sloping top tube bikes have a similar Stack and Reach but have a more
modern compact look. Those range from slightly sloping bikes like a
Roadeo/Legolas/Quickbeam/Romulus to more sloping approaches. All my bikes in
my stable fit me fine. :)
Bill LindsayEl Cerrito, CA

On Monday, April 8, 2024 at 6:31:28 PM UTC-7 Bikie#4646 wrote:

Your bike profile pic is as classic-looking as all get out Bill. Very tasty.
Question: Is this bike taller then you usual? (I'm trying to recall all
those...)If my bro-in-law still lived on the West Coast, I'd consider doing
that ride, since I have read about it for quite a long time.A Flickr album from
you if you do i, please kind sir..Paul GermainMidlothian, Va.
On Tuesday, April 2, 2024 at 10:28:57 PM UTC-4 Bill Lindsay wrote:

I've got the bike for it, and I'm just waiting for the stars to align to do the
ride. My "Eroica Bike" is a time capsule 1983 Univega Gran Premio. I've got
~700 miles on it, and will not have any issue using it for an Eroica day.
https://flickr.com/photos/45758191@N04/49563967306/in/album-72157713199195553/
BL in EC

On Tuesday, April 2, 2024 at 9:41:21 AM UTC-7 chefd...@gmail.com wrote:

Curious if anyone on this forum is also a Vintage enthusiast and has interest
in the Eroica event that is run on the Central Coast of California. I've ridden
it a few times on my PX-10... its a great ride, although the organization that
runs the event has had its ups and downs over the years. Currently, the website
lists September 22, 2024 as the run date, but the registration button leads to
last year's sign-updoes anyone have any better intel?

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[RBW] FFS: one year's worth of Bicycle Quarterly

2024-03-31 Thread Paul Richardson

i have up for grabs the three most recent issues of BQ--nos. 83, 84, and 
85.  yours for $9, paypal f+f or cash.  

thanks
paul
takoma park, md.

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[RBW] Re: FS: Rosco Platypus - 60cm - $1600

2024-03-28 Thread Paul Donald

Did you sell this? 

On Saturday, March 2, 2024 at 10:58:22 AM UTC-8 benjamin...@gmail.com wrote:

> Parting ways with my nearly new Rosco Platypus. Located in Chicago. More 
> pictures available upon request.
>
> Deore 11-speed crankset (32t/175mm crankarms)
> Deore 11-speed derailleur
> Deore 11-speed cassette (11-42)
> Deore 11-speed chain
> Microshift 11-speed thumbie
> Deore v-brakes/levers
> SKS b65 fenders
> Continental 700x50mm tires
> Ergon GC1 grips
> 65cm Rivendell Tosco bars with Nitto 31.8mm quill stem (4-bolt/removable 
> faceplate)
> Alex DM21 rims w/novatec hubs[image: IMG_1489.jpg]
>

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[RBW] Re: WTB: Bosco and JJJ Bars

2024-03-26 Thread Paul Donald

I have a set of the VO Granola Bars and a set of the chromo Bosco's at 52 
width. Both in silver. 

Was thinking about keeping the Bosco's for a Riv that I'm in glacial-paced 
negotiations about but i think I might prefer something with a lot less 
rise. Message me if you'd like and we can talk price.

I'm in LA so that might make shipping a little affordable.

On Monday, March 25, 2024 at 12:32:57 PM UTC-7 Collin A wrote:

> Still looking :)
>
> On Wednesday, March 20, 2024 at 9:44:06 PM UTC-7 Collin A wrote:
>
>> Heyo,
>>
>> Looking to do a little cockpit refinement before touring season kicks off 
>> and was hoping to get my hands on some well-loved (but not abused) 
>> handlebars to help me achieve that without breaking the bank. Specifically 
>> I am looking for:
>>
>>1. 52 cm heat treated Bosco bars
>>2. Sycip JJJ or VO Granola bars, either in silver would be ideal
>>
>> If you've got some gathering dust, let me know and lets chat :)
>>
>> Happy Belated Equinox!
>> Collin in Berkeley
>>
>

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[RBW] Re: FS: Waterford Built Atlantis (58cm) Frameset & Various Parts

2024-03-15 Thread Erik from Saint Paul

The frame and Nitto stem have been sold.

On Thursday, March 14, 2024 at 5:36:12 PM UTC-5 Erik from Saint Paul wrote:

> Had this frame listed last summer, buyer backed out due to unforeseen life 
> expenses, so I packed it away. It's now back up for sale just in time for 
> anyone with a tax refund burning a hole in their pocket to build up their 
> dream bike. 
>
> Rivendell Atlantis built by Waterford in 2018.
> Size: 58cm
> Color: British racing green
> Headset: Chris King (included)
> Seatpost: Kalloy Uno - 26.8mm (included)
> Wheel size: 700c - 135mm rear spacing
> Frame is in really good shape overall, but there are a few cosmetic 
> blemishes like minor scratches, some paint peeling around fender and rack 
> bosses, and a slight paint bulge where the front derailleur was mounted. No 
> dents, rust or any structural issues. Brake cable hangers are pictured, but 
> not included.
>
> $1,600 for local sale (Minneapolis/St Paul).
> Willing to ship via Bikeflights for an additional cost to buyer.
>
> I also have a wheelset I can include in the sale for an extra $100. 
> Velocity Dyad rims laced to Shimano LX hubs with Surly Knard tires. (Not 
> looking to sell/ship unless it's with the frame).
>
> Other parts for sale:
> * Nitto Technomic stem (26.0mm clamp, 120mm long): $20
> * Velo Orange 46/30 crankset (170mm): $100
> * Tektro Oryx cantilever brakes: $20
> Shipping costs are additional and determined on your location.
>
> Photos 
> <https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1HZoxsvOvQs1LbSL91evmL2d5Tp4TVEtu?usp=share_link>
>
>
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[RBW] FS: Waterford Built Atlantis (58cm) Frameset & Various Parts

2024-03-14 Thread Erik from Saint Paul

Had this frame listed last summer, buyer backed out due to unforeseen life
expenses, so I packed it away. It's now back up for sale just in time for
anyone with a tax refund burning a hole in their pocket to build up their
dream bike.

Rivendell Atlantis built by Waterford in 2018.
Size: 58cm
Color: British racing green
Headset: Chris King (included)
Seatpost: Kalloy Uno - 26.8mm (included)
Wheel size: 700c - 135mm rear spacing
Frame is in really good shape overall, but there are a few cosmetic
blemishes like minor scratches, some paint peeling around fender and rack
bosses, and a slight paint bulge where the front derailleur was mounted. No
dents, rust or any structural issues. Brake cable hangers are pictured, but
not included.

$1,600 for local sale (Minneapolis/St Paul).
Willing to ship via Bikeflights for an additional cost to buyer.

I also have a wheelset I can include in the sale for an extra $100.
Velocity Dyad rims laced to Shimano LX hubs with Surly Knard tires. (Not
looking to sell/ship unless it's with the frame).

Other parts for sale:
* Nitto Technomic stem (26.0mm clamp, 120mm long): $20
* Velo Orange 46/30 crankset (170mm): $100
* Tektro Oryx cantilever brakes: $20
Shipping costs are additional and determined on your location.

Photos
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Re: [RBW] Revisiting the Nitto 52f Basket Rack

2024-03-10 Thread Paul Donald

I use a steerstopper on my Soma Saga that's fitted with a Crust Clydesdale 
fork. That fork can be loaded up quite heavily, which is what I do with the 
giant basket I have on it. Even with the frame up on a double leg stand the 
fork will still swing if the ground is not level. So I lock the steerer 
with the steerstop which makes loading and unloading much nicer. It has a 1 
1/8th steerer admittedly, but they do have shims for quill stems. And 
whatever you do, don't forget to unhitch the lock before riding off. I've 
done this twice, and learnt my lesson.

On Sunday, March 10, 2024 at 10:07:10 AM UTC-7 weste...@gmail.com wrote:

> Leah, 
>
> Assuming that the issue is wheel flop when parking or loading the bike, 
> consider the Steerstopper. https://steerstopper.com   Not cheap, but 
> works great for its intended purpose. I have one on my Clem with a large 
> front basket (used for commuting and everyday riding) and we have one on 
> our Bilenky touring tandem. 
>
> Julian Westerhout
> Bloomington, IL 
>
> On Sunday, March 10, 2024 at 11:39:30 AM UTC-5 Lucky wrote:
>
>> Aesthetically meh but how about a wheel stabilizer such as:
>> [image: dropped_out_86a3211e-bc6d-4631-8d90-bb7f4587c17e.JPG]
>>
>> Wheel Stabilizer 
>> velo-orange.com 
>> 
>>
>>
>> On Mar 10, 2024, at 09:34, Bicycle Belle Ding Ding!  
>> wrote:
>>
>> 
>> 
>>
>> 
>> Hi Friends,
>>
>> I’ve had a Nitto Basket Rack from Rivendell for a few years. I think it 
>> looks awesome, it’s dead useful, but it annoyed me that it was heavy and 
>> made my bars swing around on my mermaid Platy. But as I plan the build for 
>> my 50 cm purple Platy (which is taking a million years) I am considering 
>> putting the basket rack back into service. It pains me to see it sitting, 
>> and it’s so pretty and unique that I just want to give it another try. 
>> Maybe the 650b wheels will be less floppy with this rack? Maybe the 
>> smaller, lighter bike won’t seem as penalized by the heft of this rack? It 
>> would be such an easy experiment if it wasn’t for the dyno light/wiring 
>> that is affected by the decision. It’s not a matter of simply pulling the 
>> rack, because wire length, light mount, etc are affected and will not be an 
>> easy switch. My shop hates soldering and I certainly can’t do it. 
>>
>> I had started a thread long ago about this and a lot of people reported 
>> similar experiences. Now that some more years have gone by, I’m curious if 
>> opinions have changed, or if more people have these racks and would offer 
>> their opinions. There isn’t much in the way of reviews to read online. 
>> Maybe some here would offer theirs. If more folks are trying and loving 
>> their Nitto Basket Racks, I’ll be likely to install mine. 
>>
>> Meanwhile, this beautiful Platypus sits in my living room on the shelf, 
>> waiting for its parts to return from the anodizer. And, there’s fresh snow 
>> on the ground. But talking bikes will get me through!
>> Leah
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[RBW] Re: Going really large on Clems

2024-03-10 Thread Paul Donald

I wish I could test ride some of these bikes! I am certainly taken by the 
aesthetics of the larger Clems, but my eyes may not be sensible guides for 
actual ride fit. Graham and fiddleharpa (sorry, I can only see your email 
handle here), your pbh's are greater than mine, which is at 85.5, and I set 
my saddle at 74.5mm for 175 cranks. Would you tell me what height your 
saddles are set at, including crank length? Talk me into taking up Justins 
offer of a deal. Or I'll go back to staring at the two size 60 Rosco Bubbe 
Paltypus's I see out there...

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[RBW] Re: Has anyone else tried the new Riv seat?

2024-03-02 Thread Paul Donald

I sold all but one of my Brooks and Selle Anatomica's (I have a B67 if 
anyone's looking) and have replaced them all with Ergon SF and one 
Rivendell Clem saddle. I always wear regular clothes when riding and the 
Ergon SF is less uncomfortable than all the leather saddles were for me. 
The Riv is wide on the nose but so far is slightly more comfortable than 
the Ergon. I commute about 18-20 mile round trip most days in a fairly 
upright riding position.

On Monday, February 26, 2024 at 3:11:24 PM UTC-8 Mackenzy Albright wrote:

> Bumping this thread! 
>
> I just made an order from Blue Lug and noticed they had them in stock. I 
> decided to give it a try since saddles are always a thing and my brooks are 
> all getting quite old and stretched. Now that the seat has been out for a 
> few months I am curious how ya'll are feeling about it given more saddle 
> time. 
>
> On Thursday, December 7, 2023 at 8:24:54 AM UTC-8 Chris K wrote:
>
>> Chris - I wanna say my Ergon saddle is the SR Allroad Comp. Nice basic 
>> saddle.
>>
>> On Thursday, December 7, 2023 at 7:58:55 AM UTC-7 Steven Seelig wrote:
>>
>>> I replaced a Brooks Flyer Curved on my Xtracycle now Bafang E-bike that 
>>> is about as upright as it gets.  Agree that at first I wasn't sure where 
>>> this part of my sit bone connected to that part of the saddle.  After a few 
>>> more rides, I simply forgot it was on the bike at all.  Given that with 
>>> e-bikes you are constantly shifting the assist and the 9 speed derailleur 
>>> to hit the perfect sweet spot, and I ride in City traffic, perhaps I was 
>>> not as in-tune as i would be on a quiet country road.  I prefer it to the 
>>> Brooks and don't miss the absence of the spring in the least.  
>>>
>>> My experience is likely comparing persimmons to cumquats for someone 
>>> riding unupright on an analog bike.
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, December 5, 2023 at 1:53:12 PM UTC-5 Tom Wyland wrote:
>>>
>>> I have it on my Platy currently. It replaced a Selle Anatomica H2 (at 
>>> least for the winter). The SA was a tad too narrow since I swapped to 
>>> slighly more upright bars. I haven't yet decided if the Riv saddle is too 
>>> wide (by 1-2cm).  I don't really care for the wide nose of the Riv saddle, 
>>> but I suppose I'll get used to it. I do like the flat shape and the amount 
>>> of padding (minimal). It's good for a more upright ride due to the width.  
>>> I may use it on my wife's bike to swap out the Bontrager commuter saddle 
>>> (wide).  When viewed from the side, the Bontrager commuter saddle has 
>>> shoulders that slope down where the Riv saddle is a flat profile. We both 
>>> prefer saddles that have a flat profile.  I've also ridden a VO wide 
>>> touring saddle and the Riv saddle is wider both in the nose and the rear.
>>>
>>>

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Re: [RBW] Going really large on Clems

2024-03-02 Thread Paul Donald

I really appreciate all these great opinions. I *could* ride a 64 judging by 
what I’ve read here, but perhaps it is more prudent to seek out a 59. Of course 
now I have to pay very close attention to the posts about Clem vs Platypus. My 
inclination is toward the extreme, and the Clem fulfills that with wheelbase 
etc. The Platypus is relatively sensible in comparison. But this is about 
bicycles, and bicycles are “inherently” sensible so, surely, anything goes 
right?

 
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> On Feb 26, 2024, at 3:21 PM, Mackenzy Albright  
> wrote:
> 
> I've ridden a 59 clementine and "sized up" 64 clem jr. I would have been 
> equally happy with both in terms of ride and fit. I don't feel reach (TT) is 
> an issue with hillibikes given their headtube angle and design around 
> sweptback bars. I'd be cautious sizing up if you want to run flat bars. 
> Aesthetically the saddle was a bit low in the seattube on the 64 for some 
> peoples tastes - but had no issue with leg rub etc. The main reason I kept 
> the 59 and resold the 64 was: a really tall person (the previous owner with 
> regret) wanted the 64 back if I decided it wasn't for me as well as I found 
> the previous Clementine (59) to have a slightly more traditional handling 
> feel which worked better for it's utiliarian commuter purpose as I often am 
> lugging around weight on a porteur rack for work. For unloaded trails and 
> general rides I would have slightly preferred the new gen 64. Both are 
> incredible riding bikes. I can't imagine my life without a Clem. 
> On Saturday, February 24, 2024 at 1:07:39 PM UTC-8 Johnny Alien wrote:
> My PBH generally puts me in the middle of sizes. Either at the top of one 
> range or bottom of the net. For a step thru/general use bike I would go with 
> the size up and for a road setup or diamond frame model I would size down. 
> That has always worked for me. I understand that Rivendell will sometimes 
> suggest massively sizing up on step thru frames but I have never been 
> comfortable that way and also just don't like the look of a slammed stem and 
> seatpost.
> 
> On Saturday, February 24, 2024 at 3:41:09 PM UTC-5 rmro...@gmail.com wrote:
> Yes! 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Feb 24, 2024, at 2:38 PM, Patrick Moore  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> Isn't Grant's intention with these very long reaches to the bar, to allow 
>> bars with long sweepback on a stem of reasonable length and with a lot of 
>> rise?
>> 
>> In my own case, with short arms and long torso and a drop bar level with or 
>> below saddle, I need a very undersquare frame (60 X 56 c-c is perfect) for a 
>> level top tube; of courses, if I were to use a non-drop bar with a lot of 
>> sweepback, things could be different.
>> 
>> On Sat, Feb 24, 2024 at 11:23 AM Josh C  wrote:
>> I could fit on anything between 59-64cm with the low top tube but I'd pick 
>> the 59 just to keep the overall length down. These bikes are already crazy 
>> long, I don't want to make it longer unnecessarily, a 64 clem is like riding 
>> an 80s Lincoln Towncar. I don't understand the draw of sizing up. 
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Re: [RBW] Re: Northern Hemisphere Winter 2023-2024 Ride Photos

2024-02-26 Thread 'Paul Germain' via RBW Owners Bunch

Tony, Thanks for that bit of Hillborne history. I
As to the brake change, if pulling a wide tire without deflating it, the Paul
centerpulls open wide.
Paul
On Monday, February 26, 2024 at 12:40:53 AM EST, Tony Lockhart
wrote:

Hey Paul, Beautiful Homer that you've got! I really like the bags and mustache
bars.
I bought my Sam in December of 2009.maybe in the first couple of runs? I'm
not entirely certain. At any rate, those early ones didn't come with the accent
head tubes. I've been daydreaming about getting the Sam repainted to a celeste
or Homer bluemaybe even change ditch the canti posts and change over to
side pulls. Haha, I knowsacrilege!

On Sunday, February 25, 2024 at 6:31:08 PM UTC-8 Bikie#4646 wrote:

Tony, nice image! Just curious, is your bike a repaint? No cream head tube or
accents? I myself have a Homer which was restored and powder coated monochrome,
except for modified decals. Since I also have a Sam Hillborne, it is nice to
set it apart from that (and other Rivendells).Paul GermainMidlothian, Va.

On Saturday, February 24, 2024 at 9:22:32 AM UTC-5 Tony Lockhart wrote:

Early morning...Pasadena, CA
On Tuesday, February 13, 2024 at 7:05:45 PM UTC-8 kyleco...@gmail.com wrote:

Love the photos from Japan! Thanks for sharing.
On Tue, Feb 13, 2024 at 7:48 AM Takashi wrote:

We have very little snowfall this winter. I think I wrote the same thing in the
previous winter, but even less snow now.Anyway, here are a few photos from last
Sunday.
Mt. Ontake:

Kiso Mountains:

Even with this little snowfall, I couldn't ride my bike on an unplowed
road.Here, my bike is standing without help of kickstand.

Takashi

2024年2月13日火曜日 9:38:19 UTC+9 Collin A:

A bit of a delayed post, but I swung up by Riv World HQ a couple weekends ago
and got some moody mid-ride photos in. What isn't pictured is the muddy mess
the bike was about 20-30 minutes later.
FYI, the cazaderos are not great mud tires...but most already knew that I'm sure

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[RBW] Going really large on Clems

2024-02-24 Thread Paul Donald

Hi, I'm new here, all my Rivendell ownership is currently confined to their 
components all over my Riv-esque bikes, Soma Saga, New Albion Privateer, 
Schwinn High Sierra (that one is destined to be replaced with a proper Riv) 
Omnium Cargo. It would be nice to have the main course and not just be 
fiddling with the condiments.

I've been reading what folks have written about Riv sizing, both here and 
on Rivs website, and was particularly interested in Grant's experiment with 
a 64 Clem for his 85mm PBH. I have a PBH of 85.5 so in theory I could do 
similar. Oddly, according to their spec sheets, a 64 has 1mm less reach 
than a 59.

Anyone cheerfully riding against the grain size-wise?

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[RBW] FS: Nitto Deluxe/Tallux 120mm & Ritchey/Nitto 100mm stems

2024-01-24 Thread Paul M

The Nitto Tallux stem came off an early model Clem L that had seen very 
little use. I sold the frameset but kept the components. 120mm reach with a 
-17 degree drop but levels out once mounted. 225mm quill. 25.4 handlebar 
clamp. Excellent clean condition with some very faint marks from 
installation. $55 shipped

The Ritchey Force stem is made by Nitto from the early 90's. 100mm reach 
with zero rise but will give ~6 degree rise once mounted. 26.0 handlebar 
clamp. Excellent condition. $60 shipped.

More pictures if interested, just reach out off this site. Thanks, Paul

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Re: [RBW] FS - Vintage 1989 Brooks Professional saddle, brown.

2024-01-13 Thread 'Paul Germain' via RBW Owners Bunch

The saddle is spoken for and pending payment.
My thanks to the list,Paul Germain

On Saturday, January 13, 2024 at 06:59:02 PM EST, 'Bikie#4646' via RBW
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I mounted this veteran saddle new on my (then new) 1989 custom Bontrager CX.
While I never raced CX, this thing went off and on road for 30 years before I
retired it. It's built like a tank, and despite the "Pre-Softened" designation
on the top, I barely managed to imprint my sit bones into it. The leather is
thick with very little give! However, it can be surprisingly comfy for short
(under 50 miles) rides. Maybe that is why Jan Heine chose it as his go-to
saddle for years and would always mount it on his test bikes. (Until he began
selling another brand.) It is in good shape, with minimal wear, no tears or
major scrapes, etc. The copper rivets are exceptionally handsome compared to
current, IMHO. It might make a perfect addition to a restoration. You could
tour with it and not worry about rain! I can't see my using it as wall art if
someone can make use of it.Chrome rails, which originally were anodized copper.
When Brooks began using titanium rails, I switched my five Brooks to that. (It
seems they have moved away from titanium because of a price hike.)My
measurements vary a little from what Brooks has listed on their web site, so I
will put their dimensions and weight in parenthesis:W: 150mm (160mm) x L: 285mm
(275mm)Weight: 454g (540g)Though eBay prices for these (used) are all over the
place ($50 to $245 and up before shipping,) I saw very few which looked as good
was this one.I will ship at my expense USPS Medium Flat Rate box (CONUS) for
$60.My Flickr images, some normal light (leather appears dark) and some bright
light:https://www.flickr.com/photos/bikecrazy-paul/albums/72177720314045543

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[RBW] Re: FS: VO SS Crankset

2024-01-02 Thread Paul Choi

110 BCD

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[RBW] Re: FS: VO SS Crankset

2024-01-02 Thread Paul Choi

170 mm

On Tuesday, January 2, 2024 at 5:42:58 PM UTC-8 Paul Choi wrote:

> I purchased this crankset new from VO in 2021 but never used them. If you 
> need one for a Roaduno build, this might be a good opportunity. 44t 110 
> BCS. $120 shipped. I'm in Santa Clara CA -  if you are local you can pick 
> up. 

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[RBW] Re: New Bike Day X2

2023-12-20 Thread Paul M

I wouldn't be surprised if RBW dropped the Homer Hilsen from their line-up 
and replaced it with the Charlie H. Gallop (expected next year). Especially 
since it looks to have longish chainstays and uses the same caliper brakes 
as the Homer. Different frame design but similar "country bike" vibes. 

On Wednesday 20 December 2023 at 09:07:01 UTC-8 Jingy wrote:

> Speaking of Homers, any idea when the next run will be? I had something in 
> mind like Chef's bikelooks fantastic.
>
>
> According to a recent weekly email, no Homers in 2024
>
> Jim in Mpls 
> On Tuesday, December 19, 2023 at 8:56:47 PM UTC-6 ian m wrote:
>
>> On Saturday, December 16, 2023 at 9:53:48 AM UTC-5 Tony Lockhart wrote:
>>
>> Speaking of Homers, any idea when the next run will be? I had something 
>> in mind like Chef's bikelooks fantastic.
>>
>> @Tim, can't wait to see updates when you build them up. 
>>
>>
>> Anyone know? Looking to get a Homer 
>>
>

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[RBW] Re: FS: Wooly Warm Sweater

2023-12-19 Thread Paul Richardson

and SOLD!  thanks everyone.  stay warm!!!

paul in tkpk

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[RBW] Re: New Bike Day X2

2023-12-11 Thread Paul Richardson

tim you've done the right thing.  i wanna see that roady homer with 
downtube shifters!!

paul
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[RBW] Re: FS: Homer headbadge

2023-12-01 Thread Paul M

With the green twin top tube Rosco, it was that I just didn't like the 
rocket ship head badge. With the Homer, I like the head badge design but 
not the dark blue border. However, I did leave the head badge on my Wolbis.

On Friday, 1 December 2023 at 09:39:25 UTC-8 cjus...@gmail.com wrote:

> lol.  As soon as I saw this, I knew you had to be the guy who removed the 
> head badge on what is now my Green Rosco.
> On Friday, December 1, 2023 at 10:51:52 AM UTC-6 Paul M wrote:
>
>> Sold. Thanks!
>>
>> On Friday, 1 December 2023 at 05:34:25 UTC-8 Paul M wrote:
>>
>>> Just removed this head badge from my new A. Homer Hilsen frameset. I 
>>> like the look of the plain cream-colored head tube contrasting with the 
>>> mustard frame. Perfect condition. Amazing what you can do with nylon tire 
>>> irons. $35/shipped. Email me directly. Thanks, Paul in rainy Eugene Oregon.
>>
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Re: [RBW] A Homer Hill build....

2023-11-30 Thread 'Paul Germain' via RBW Owners Bunch

Sarah, I completely understand wanting your brake levers close at hand. But
keep in mind, as another here has said, that this is one reason for a short
(but tall) stem. I use this setup for my touring bike too (a Sam) because it
allows a chance to “stretch out” like riding in the drops on drop bars.This is
less useful if you are riding on a commute and making many stops, some
unexpected and abrupt.For longer rides, I find I am “at home” in in my Lazy
Boy” on the hoods.This position may not work for you if your body won’t allow
it. You might be better served by Albatross bars. But keep in mind that you can
angle those for a bit more “aero” position on faster group rides.Paul
GermainMIDLOTHIAN, Va

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On Thursday, November 30, 2023, 9:33 AM, Sarah Carlson
wrote:

Hey Paul!Thank you for sharing pictures of your set up, and an explanation of
your gearing... I like what you have going here, my teen would say, "It's a
vibe." I like the range of gears you have and I feel like that would work with
how I ride. 36 seems like a sweet spot to ride in, while also having a 24 for
hills, and a 46 which gives options when I am coming down hills because I just
feel ungrounded when I'm totally spinning down hills. Great suggestions!

I'm going to have to test ride an Albastache bar somewhere, because your set up
looks like a good possibility to be compatible for how I like to ride. The only
thing is I know I like to have my break levers right under my hands and I tend
to ride with my hands on the swept back part... so I'd need to see how it feels
to keep my hands up front like that. Luckily learning what we like tends to
involve riding and be fun so I'm up for it!
Sarah

On Tuesday, November 28, 2023 at 8:39:10 PM UTC-8 Bikie#4646 wrote:

Sarah, I would like to ditto the other recommendations for triple chainrings
and a smaller cogset. I use a 9-speed 12/27 paired to 46/36/24 crankset. Also,
the Albastache / Mustache handlebars, paired to an 80mm Nitto Dirt Drop stem.
My Mustache bars with a slight tilt downward offers the best of both worlds for
me. It fits between my drop bar bike and the more upright Albatross bar on my
single speed daily ride.I'm at a point in life where I have no riding partners
who don't think the way I do about group riding. (Which might be a new goal for
you, too?) I would call it "spirited" but not competitive. We all have
different pain thresholds and capabilities but everyone would think it improper
to leave the others in the dust. Often the ride includes a bagged lunch midway.
Even my rides which are not in the foothills of the Blue Ridge Mountains are
rarely over 40 miles, but a good workout nonetheless.I find my Homer Hilsen is
the perfect bike for this. With a near-minimum of bag capacity, I can carry a
sandwich and even a lightweight jacket or vest, etc. Most every need for a day
ride, which would include tools of course. Much of what I do on the Hilsen is
unpaved and hilly. The 38mm tire capacity (with fenders) of my 2013 (?) frame
handles dirt roads well, even on slippery downhills. The new Hilsens with
longer chain stays may take wider tires yet, but I suspect there is a tipping
point to tire width. If your group rides are entirely on pavement, 35-38mm
tires should be the sweet spot for you and you won't need the excess rolling
weight of wider.I use a Sam Hillborne for touring and the Hilsen is noticeably
livelier, especially without the touring racks. Since I am not spending all day
on the bike, I can get away with a lighter, more narrow saddle. (But we all
know that is a very personal preference.) My Hilsen set up this way for me is
a confidence-builder and my favorite bike for adventure rides with
others.https://www.flickr.com/photos/bikecrazy-paul/52784257986/in/album-72177720307152181/
Paul GermainMidlothian, Va.

On Tuesday, November 28, 2023 at 9:28:46 PM UTC-5 Joe Bernard wrote:

Did someone say PIE??! 不

On Tuesday, November 28, 2023 at 6:11:51 AM UTC-8 sarahlik...@gmail.com wrote:

Yeah, going down hills in the 42 I am still spinning but then someone told me
that is normal... I guess I am learning new things about riding since I've been
out with a group. I'm going to do a triple on this one and see how it goes! I
do like the sound of your set up with the 24-35-43 with 12 x 36. Gravity is
inconvenient for me a lot these days because I like to fuel my engine with
pie so I am looking forward to the 24!

On Monday, November 27, 2023 at 6:38:19 PM UTC-8 Drew Saunders wrote:

If you say you live in your 34, but sometimes spin out, while wanting a lower
gear as well, then a triple is a good choice.
You can set up the common 74/110 triple, like the Silver, Soma Clipper, etc. as
a 24-34-44, and pair that with a 12-36 in the rear and have your “3 cassettes
on one bike” gearing. I use a 24-35-43 with a 12-36 on my 1998 Ibis Mojo
“Mountain Bike that has become a Gravel

[RBW] Re: mounting a light to Nitto 32F

2023-11-27 Thread Paul Richardson

thanks to both of you for responding.  the chainring definitely wins the 
aesthetics contest but i may ultimately end up with that tanaka mount that 
realizes what i was trying to jerryrig with my zipties.  for me nothing 
beats having the light mounted in the center.

paul
takoma park, md.

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Re: [RBW] 10/23 BLAGH regarding the Roaduno

2023-10-07 Thread Paul Richardson

thanks erics for the responses.  having never used one, i didn't consider 
that switching cogs on a DOS would affect the brakepads, but that does make 
a lotta sense.

hoping to see lots of different builds on the UNO.

paul
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[RBW] Re: 10/23 BLAGH regarding the Roaduno

2023-10-06 Thread Paul Richardson

hi bill

perhaps a dumb question BUT i wonder if you'd mind shedding light on how 
this dropout vs. quickbeam (/s.o./f.j.sr.) dropout changes the setup 
options.  i'm not clear on the effect of the horizontal dropout as opposed 
to the slanted one.  

i too find many reasons to be very excited about the pending roaduno DROP.  

thanks!
paul
takoma park, md.

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[RBW] WTB: john's irish strap

2023-10-03 Thread Paul Richardson

hi there

i'm in search of two, actually--i'd like a short watermelon and the 
original color scheme before rainbow.  the muted hues.  please holler if 
you've got an extra!

thanks!
paul
takoma park, md.

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Re: [RBW] Re: Northern Hemisphere Summer Riding Photos 2023

2023-09-24 Thread 'Paul Germain' via RBW Owners Bunch

Eric, I think they must be about 54cm Noodles, since I noticed them right
away. I'm copying Ian here to confirm. (Ian, I posted your bike on this RBW
Google Group.)
The purple bar tape and twine looked great with the silver paint!
I think Will "found" this frame for him looking around Riv HQ. Another
satisfied Hillborne owner!
I hope you are well,
Paul Germain
On Sunday, September 24, 2023 at 10:01:36 AM EDT, Eric Marth
wrote:

Paul — Looks like Ian had the bike built up as a complete by Riv. Are those
54cm Noodles? They look wide!
Hope you all had a nice outing.
Eric

On Saturday, September 23, 2023 at 5:44:08 PM UTC-4 DavidP wrote:

Kim - the stone arch trail is in Westford, MA.
-Dave

On Friday, September 22, 2023 at 11:54:34 PM UTC-4 Kim H. wrote:

Very cool Dave.
Where is this old rail line trail ?
Kim HetzelYelm, WA.

On Friday, September 22, 2023 at 7:00:29 PM UTC-7 DavidP wrote:

Got a nice ride in on the Platypus for the last day of Summer. Part of the loop
included an unpaved trail that used to be part of a rail line and features a
stone arch bridge.

-Dave

On Wednesday, September 20, 2023 at 8:53:53 PM UTC-4 John Rinker wrote:

The best part of riding on the road? The art, of course! (Apologies for the
spoiler.)

On Monday, September 18, 2023 at 5:20:01 PM UTC-7 Kim H. wrote:

@Takashi-
I love the Pacific Northwest here in Washington state with all of the mountains
and trees. It may rain eight or nine months out the year. However, when the sun
is out and not too hot, It is absolutely glorious.

I wanted to keep riding further on the Willapa Hills Trail, but I did not want
to go too far beyond my limits. To experience such a beautiful trail was
amazing.

I thank-you for your observation praise on my Clem.

I see that you have the same pedals as I do. Cool !
Have you considered buying some extension wings for your pedals
?https://www.rivbike.com/products/mks-monarch-extension
They really do help.

Smiles to you.
Kim HetzelYelm, WA.

On Monday, September 18, 2023 at 6:04:02 AM UTC-7 Takashi wrote:

Kim, you live in a very beautiful place! It must have been fun to ride that
trail.
And your Clem is gorgeous.
Mid-September and it's still very hot here.Soba (from which Japanese soba
noodles are made) patches are in full bloom.

Takashi

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Re: [RBW] Re: Tire advice for my Toyo homer/max tire size

2023-09-17 Thread Paul Richardson

i've gotta join the chorus--that bicycle is really, really nice, and a 
markedly different build than i've seen on a homer.  thanks for posting.

paul
takoma park, md.

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Re: [RBW] Babies on bikes

2023-09-02 Thread Paul Richardson

I had a very positive experience with the Thule Yepp Mini front-mounted
seat for ~9 months to nearly two-years-old. It pairs well with sweptback
bars like Choco and Albatross, though I also used it with Wavie bars. We
definitely started before age one, no problem. I ride big bikes, so
there's plenty of space, but my wife also rides with it on her Choco'd 51cm
Homer Hilsen and does just fine. I've probably got a picture somewhere...

I had a very negative experience with the Hamax Caress (rear mounted) and
do not recommend it.

With older kids, I think the Burley trailer is a great option. I don't
feel like it changes the ride feel *too* dramatically, and it's pretty
simple to move from bike to bike (if there's more than one in your
stable). I wrecked once; the trailer flipped on its side, but my daughter
was completely fine and just wanted to keep going.

I did find that both of my kids were super overstimulated by their first
couple of rides on the Thule and starting with short, slow circles around
the neighborhood was right for their temperaments.

Biking with kids is the best. Start 'em young.

paul
takoma park, md.

[RBW] Re: FS: Craigslist, etc 2023

2023-08-24 Thread Paul Clifton

This apparently is in near me (northwest Arkansas) if anyone wants a proxy. 
Listed on Craigslist now: 
https://fayar.craigslist.org/bik/d/bentonville-rivendell-quickbeam-58cm/7657837282.html

Paul in AR

On Saturday, August 19, 2023 at 11:52:45 PM UTC-5 Collin A wrote:

> PSA, 58 "Crusty" Quickbeam delux (paul, dynamo, etc.) not mine, nor my 
> size:
> https://crustbikes.com/a/shopicial/topics/173086
>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Ron’s Ortho Bars but no bike conundrum? Buy mine!

2023-08-15 Thread Paul Armijo

How much for the bars?

On Mon, Aug 14, 2023 at 3:33 PM Mike Packard  wrote:

> I put some on my Atlantis and now it won't fit in the bike locker at work
> :D
>
> Mike in Austin
>
> On Monday, August 14, 2023 at 1:57:18 PM UTC-5 brok...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Dang, that's a lovely bike Liz! Hopefully someone snatches it up for that
>> price!
>>
>> On Mon, Aug 14, 2023 at 2:06 PM Eric Marth  wrote:
>>
>>> I've got mine on a Nitto 120 and oh, they flex.
>>>
>>> On Monday, August 14, 2023 at 1:53:45 PM UTC-4 Johnny Alien wrote:
>>>
 Just reading the words 130mm and ron's orthos makes me feel the flex.

 On Monday, August 14, 2023 at 1:27:59 PM UTC-4 Mackenzy Albright wrote:

> Wow! I got a lot more DM's than anticipated. Sale is currently pending
> at this point.
>
> On Monday, August 14, 2023 at 9:52:48 AM UTC-7 Mackenzy Albright wrote:
>
>> Ive got a pretty minty silver 130mm ritchey force road stem 26.0
>> clamp in my parts bin for sale for when you realize you need a lng 
>> low
>> steel stem to run these bars. *sunglasses emoji*
>>
>> On Monday, August 14, 2023 at 8:53:08 AM UTC-7 Lucky wrote:
>>
>>> For anyone who bought Ron’s bars only to find they don’t have a bike
>>> to put them on, allow me to shamelessly cross post my lovely 1993 MB-4 
>>> (for
>>> sale on iBOB and local CL), which I’m happy to sell without cockpit…
>>> Ron’s bars would suit this bike exceptionally well!
>>> Feel free to e-mail if I actually caught anyone’s interest;)
>>> Liz in Sacramento
>>> [image: 00707_eKrnb9sdxrf_0CI0t2_600x450.jpg]
>>>
>>> Bridgestone MB-4 Classic 26” ATB - bicycles - by owner - bike sale
>>> 
>>> sacramento.craigslist.org
>>> 
>>>
>>> 
>>>
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[RBW] Re: Have you tried MKS Seahorse pedals

2023-08-12 Thread Paul Richardson

Thanks for all the feedback.

I'm not 100% sold on the huge pedal thing that seems to be quite prevalent, 
and the Seahorse seemed like a nice way to split the difference.  But 
Brendan your negative experience is especially helpful.  Slippy is no 
bueno, no no no.  

I've seen the Tacos, and had the pleasure of playing with a pair of 
Bubblys, which seem to spin simply by being looked at...man what did they 
grease those bearings with, wowee zowee.  The pricepoint ($100 Bubblys vs. 
$32 Seahorse, at bluelug) is also a consideration.

Still deciding if I'll toss a pair in the cart, but I'll offer my firsthand 
experience if I do.

thanks
paul
takoma park, md.

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[RBW] Have you tried MKS Seahorse pedals

2023-08-02 Thread Paul Richardson

Hi

If anyone has ridden the MKS Seahorse 
<https://www.mkspedal.com/?q=en/product/node/436> pedals and has strong 
opinions about them, I'd love to hear--especially if you hated them, for 
some reason.  Sylvan Touring is my favorite pedal I've yet tried, but I've 
also been very happy with Allways and Gammas.  

thanks for any feedback
paul
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Re: [RBW] July 21 CyclingSavvy course

2023-07-19 Thread Paul Lamontagne

I’m basically a lurker on this group having joined a few months ago. I own
a couple of Rivendell bicycles and enjoy some of the discussions in the
group. I say a lurker in that my bikes have mostly been built by Rivendell
and I’m not particularly interested in changing things much, as many of you
seem to do.

I want to add to Pam’s post about CyclingSavvy and how great a resource it
is for me.

I just completed the CyclingSavvy 3-Part Workshop in Milford, OH last
weekend, the first part being the class that Pam is teaching.  The
information provided and techniques taught are going to make me a safer and
better cyclist (and driver) as I put into practice the techniques they
teach. I consider myself lucky to have stumbled upon their website a few
months ago. They have provided me information and techniques that years of
riding, including bike club membership, has not provided.

You can start with the free Essentials course if you can’t attend Pam’s
virtual class. For slightly more than the price of a new Brooks B17 saddle,
you can attend a 3-Part Workshop AND sign up for their Ride Awesome
Membership which gives you LIFETIME access to 3 premium courses. Plus Ride
Awesome Members can attend occasional virtual talks on various cycling
topics.  I’m finding that lifetime course access is an important way for me
to review safe practices and keep that information fresh as I ride.

I’m really enthused by the CyclingSavvy program. I hope my enthusiasm helps
someone start/continue their bicycle safety training in whatever form works
for them.

Paul Lamontagne

On Tue, Jul 11, 2023 at 5:03 PM Pam Bikes  wrote:

> The last email from Will where he talks about fear of drivers and dicey
> roads makes me a little sad b/c it seems like people are getting
> discouraged from riding to some places.  Of course, I have a healthy
> respect for large vehicles, inattentive drivers, blind curves, etc.  But
> that's why I teach CyclingSavvy.  I've learned how to make myself as
> visible, relevant and predictable as possible by using lots of situational
> awareness and communication.  I'll be teaching July 21 from 4-7 EDT.  If
> you're undecided whether to register, let me know and I'll send you the
> link.  Listen for a few minutes and you can decide whether to listen to the
> rest.  I know it's helped me ride wherever I want to ride.  Let me know if
> you have any questions.
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[RBW] Re: FS: Shimano DXR MX70 V brakes (3), Bicycle Quarterlies

2023-07-13 Thread Paul Richardson

All finished!  Thanks everyone for helping me lighten up.

paul
takoma park, md.

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[RBW] Re: FS: Shimano DXR MX70 V brakes (3), Bicycle Quarterlies

2023-07-13 Thread Paul Richardson

Down to just one brake at this point.

paul
takoma park, md.

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[RBW] Re: FS: Shimano DXR MX70 V brakes (3), Bicycle Quarterlies

2023-07-13 Thread Paul Richardson

The BQs have been claimed.

I will accept just about any reasonable offer (I'll consider just about 
anything that isn't a single digit number) on the V brakes.  I don't need 
them and I'd love for them to be put to use!  

paul
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[RBW] Re: ISO/WTB: hex brass valve caps from Rew10 Works.

2023-07-11 Thread Paul Rhodes

Kim, these are not from Rew10 but may suit your fancy. 
http://www.monebikes.com/store/stem-caps-made-of-brass

-Paul 

On Monday, July 3, 2023 at 9:23:17 PM UTC-4 krhe...@gmail.com wrote:

> I am ISO/WTB two (2) hex brass value caps from Rew10 Works. 
>
> I am aware of the BLUE LUG sells them on their website:
> https://global.bluelug.com/rew10-works-hex-brass-valve-cap.html
>
> It is my understanding that these value caps will fit on presta values. 
>
> I am not interested paying the expensive amount of monies for shipping 
> overseas for such two small items.
>
> Does anyone have two (2) of these here in the United States that would be 
> willing to sell me for a reasonable price, plus shipping ?
>
> Thank-you,
> Kim Hetzel
> Yelm, WA. 
>
>

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[RBW] Re: FS: Nitto x Crust 1" Threadless stem

2023-06-20 Thread Paul Clifton

How much steer tube does this require above the headset?

I think it might work on my Boulder All Road.

Paul in AR

On Monday, June 19, 2023 at 1:39:13 PM UTC-5 Stephen wrote:

> Hey all,
>
> Got a stem I'm looking to pass along, maybe someone here could use it?
>
> NittoxCrust Fillet Brazed threadless 1" Steerer stem
> 60mm extension, 26.0 Clamp Diameter
>
> Asking for $100 + shipping (~$10) or local hand off in nyc.
> Original retail was $150, and i don't believe they make them anymore..
>
> Anyways, lovely stem, kind of specific use case. Always open to offers, 
> experience has taught me that this shorty will never work with my lanky 
> body.
>
> Thanks for lookin!
>
> [image: stem 4.jpg][image: stem 2.jpg][image: stem 1.jpg][image: stem 
> 3.jpg]
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[RBW] Re: FS: 58cm MUSA Atlantis f/f/hs, 55cm Crust Lightning Bolt f/f/hs, and various parts

2023-06-15 Thread Erik from Saint Paul

*Update:*

Everything is sold, aside from the Crust Lightning Bolt frameset.

On Wednesday, June 14, 2023 at 5:06:27 PM UTC-5 Erik from Saint Paul wrote:

> *Update:*
>
> Both frames are still available, but there has been some serious interest 
> in the Atlantis.
>
>
> Other parts for sale:
>
> Nitto mustache bars *sold*
>
> Tektro drop bar brake levers (short pull): *sold*
>
> Velo Orange quill stem 31.8 clamp, 90mm: *sold*
>
> Velo Orange quill stem 31.8 clamp, 80mm (new): *sold*
>
> Velo Orange treadless stem 31.8 clam, 110mm: *sold*
>
> Velo Orange treadless stem 31.8 clam, 80mm: *sold*
>
> Handsome Cycles quill stem 25.4 clamp, 80mm: *sold*
>
> Sram Rival left double shifter: *sold*
>
> Sram Rival front and rear derailleurs: *sold*
>
> Dia Compe ratcheting downtube shifter: *pending*
>
> Tektro Oryx cantilever brakes front and rear: $30
>
>
> On Tuesday, June 13, 2023 at 10:03:59 PM UTC-5 Erik from Saint Paul wrote:
>
>> Not very active on this forum, but figured this would be the best place 
>> to list first.
>> Looking to sell my 58cm Waterford built Atlantis. I bought it in 2018 
>> from Rivendell for $2400. It was originally built for someone else, but the 
>> water bottle bosses on the seat tube were a bit off kilter, so it was sold 
>> for a slight discount. Never had any issues with mounting a bottle cage and 
>> nothing ever got in the way. Frame is in really good shape overall, but 
>> there are a few cosmetic issues like minor scratches, some paint peeling 
>> around fender and rack bosses, and a slight paint bulge where the front 
>> derailleur was mounted. It's been a great bike, but I just don't ride it as 
>> often as other bikes I have, so I think it's best to let it go. Located in 
>> the Minneapolis/St Paul area and will meet up within the metro area if 
>> interested.
>> Color: British racing green
>> Wheel size: 700c
>> Headset: Chris King
>> Seatpost: 26.8mm, Kalloy Uno (included with sale)
>> Brake cable hangers: Nitto front and rear (included with sale)
>>
>>
>> https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1oxlevH9kCvQy_amBUuEsh6Vjo8qQ3VIV?usp=share_link
>>
>> Asking $1800 + actual shipping cost.
>> Also have a set of Velocity Dyad rims laced to Shimano LX hubs that I'll 
>> throw in for an extra $150 if you're interested.
>>
>>
>> 55cm Crust Lightning Bolt Frameset with Campagnolo Record Headset. Frame 
>> is in very good condition with a minor scratch and scuff here and there. 
>> Fits 650b x 42mm tires under fenders just fine. 
>> Asking $750 + actual shipping cost.
>>
>>
>> Other parts for sale:
>>
>> Nitto mustache bars $20
>>
>> Tektro drop bar brake levers (short pull): $15
>>
>> Velo Orange quill stem 31.8 clamp, 90mm: $20
>>
>> Velo Orange quill stem 31.8 clamp, 80mm (new): $30
>>
>> Velo Orange treadless stem 31.8 clam, 110mm: $20
>>
>> Velo Orange treadless stem 31.8 clam, 80mm: $20
>>
>> Handsome Cycles quill stem 25.4 clamp, 80mm: $10
>>
>> Sram Rival left double shifter: $25
>>
>> Sram Rival front and rear derailleurs: $50
>>
>> Dia Compe ratcheting downtube shifter: $30
>>
>> Tektro Oryx cantilever brakes front and rear: $30
>>
>> Shipping not included in list price of parts.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: FS: 58cm MUSA Atlantis f/f/hs, 55cm Crust Lightning Bolt f/f/hs, and various parts

2023-06-14 Thread Erik from Saint Paul

*Update:*

Both frames are still available, but there has been some serious interest 
in the Atlantis.


Other parts for sale:

Nitto mustache bars *sold*

Tektro drop bar brake levers (short pull): *sold*

Velo Orange quill stem 31.8 clamp, 90mm: *sold*

Velo Orange quill stem 31.8 clamp, 80mm (new): *sold*

Velo Orange treadless stem 31.8 clam, 110mm: *sold*

Velo Orange treadless stem 31.8 clam, 80mm: *sold*

Handsome Cycles quill stem 25.4 clamp, 80mm: *sold*

Sram Rival left double shifter: *sold*

Sram Rival front and rear derailleurs: *sold*

Dia Compe ratcheting downtube shifter: *pending*

Tektro Oryx cantilever brakes front and rear: $30


On Tuesday, June 13, 2023 at 10:03:59 PM UTC-5 Erik from Saint Paul wrote:

> Not very active on this forum, but figured this would be the best place to 
> list first.
> Looking to sell my 58cm Waterford built Atlantis. I bought it in 2018 from 
> Rivendell for $2400. It was originally built for someone else, but the 
> water bottle bosses on the seat tube were a bit off kilter, so it was sold 
> for a slight discount. Never had any issues with mounting a bottle cage and 
> nothing ever got in the way. Frame is in really good shape overall, but 
> there are a few cosmetic issues like minor scratches, some paint peeling 
> around fender and rack bosses, and a slight paint bulge where the front 
> derailleur was mounted. It's been a great bike, but I just don't ride it as 
> often as other bikes I have, so I think it's best to let it go. Located in 
> the Minneapolis/St Paul area and will meet up within the metro area if 
> interested.
> Color: British racing green
> Wheel size: 700c
> Headset: Chris King
> Seatpost: 26.8mm, Kalloy Uno (included with sale)
> Brake cable hangers: Nitto front and rear (included with sale)
>
>
> https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1oxlevH9kCvQy_amBUuEsh6Vjo8qQ3VIV?usp=share_link
>
> Asking $1800 + actual shipping cost.
> Also have a set of Velocity Dyad rims laced to Shimano LX hubs that I'll 
> throw in for an extra $150 if you're interested.
>
>
> 55cm Crust Lightning Bolt Frameset with Campagnolo Record Headset. Frame 
> is in very good condition with a minor scratch and scuff here and there. 
> Fits 650b x 42mm tires under fenders just fine. 
> Asking $750 + actual shipping cost.
>
>
> Other parts for sale:
>
> Nitto mustache bars $20
>
> Tektro drop bar brake levers (short pull): $15
>
> Velo Orange quill stem 31.8 clamp, 90mm: $20
>
> Velo Orange quill stem 31.8 clamp, 80mm (new): $30
>
> Velo Orange treadless stem 31.8 clam, 110mm: $20
>
> Velo Orange treadless stem 31.8 clam, 80mm: $20
>
> Handsome Cycles quill stem 25.4 clamp, 80mm: $10
>
> Sram Rival left double shifter: $25
>
> Sram Rival front and rear derailleurs: $50
>
> Dia Compe ratcheting downtube shifter: $30
>
> Tektro Oryx cantilever brakes front and rear: $30
>
> Shipping not included in list price of parts.
>
>
>
>
>

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[RBW] FS: 58cm MUSA Atlantis f/f/hs, 55cm Crust Lightning Bolt f/f/hs, and various parts

2023-06-13 Thread Erik from Saint Paul

Not very active on this forum, but figured this would be the best place to
list first.
Looking to sell my 58cm Waterford built Atlantis. I bought it in 2018 from
Rivendell for $2400. It was originally built for someone else, but the
water bottle bosses on the seat tube were a bit off kilter, so it was sold
for a slight discount. Never had any issues with mounting a bottle cage and
nothing ever got in the way. Frame is in really good shape overall, but
there are a few cosmetic issues like minor scratches, some paint peeling
around fender and rack bosses, and a slight paint bulge where the front
derailleur was mounted. It's been a great bike, but I just don't ride it as
often as other bikes I have, so I think it's best to let it go. Located in
the Minneapolis/St Paul area and will meet up within the metro area if
interested.
Color: British racing green
Wheel size: 700c
Headset: Chris King
Seatpost: 26.8mm, Kalloy Uno (included with sale)
Brake cable hangers: Nitto front and rear (included with sale)

https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1oxlevH9kCvQy_amBUuEsh6Vjo8qQ3VIV?usp=share_link

Asking $1800 + actual shipping cost.
Also have a set of Velocity Dyad rims laced to Shimano LX hubs that I'll
throw in for an extra $150 if you're interested.

55cm Crust Lightning Bolt Frameset with Campagnolo Record Headset. Frame is
in very good condition with a minor scratch and scuff here and there. Fits
650b x 42mm tires under fenders just fine.
Asking $750 + actual shipping cost.

Other parts for sale:

Nitto mustache bars $20

Tektro drop bar brake levers (short pull): $15

Velo Orange quill stem 31.8 clamp, 90mm: $20

Velo Orange quill stem 31.8 clamp, 80mm (new): $30

Velo Orange treadless stem 31.8 clam, 110mm: $20

Velo Orange treadless stem 31.8 clam, 80mm: $20

Handsome Cycles quill stem 25.4 clamp, 80mm: $10

Sram Rival left double shifter: $25

Sram Rival front and rear derailleurs: $50

Dia Compe ratcheting downtube shifter: $30

Tektro Oryx cantilever brakes front and rear: $30

Shipping not included in list price of parts.

[RBW] Re: Sail to the trail

2023-06-13 Thread Paul Clifton

A ferry ride to tour around the islands sounds like a great way to spend a 
few days. I'd love to do some camping up that way.

Paul

On Monday, June 12, 2023 at 5:33:40 PM UTC-5 brizbarn wrote:

> That sounds and looks like an awesome time!  I recently took a ferry to 
> Orcas Island in the San Jaun Islands of Washington.  Had my BMX and my Riv 
> (in van).  Mostly rode the skatepark out there with friends, but rode the 
> Riv around the campground too.  I'd like to go back and instead get on the 
> ferry with just my Riv (no van) and do some touring. 
>
> On Monday, June 12, 2023 at 6:27:25 AM UTC-7 Paul Clifton wrote:
>
>> I thought y'all might dig this overnighter I went on on Memorial Day 
>> weekend. We loaded the bikes on to my friends' sailboats and boated to the 
>> a cove along the Karst Loop at Hobbs State Park here in northwest Arkansas. 
>> We spent the afternoon anchored in the cove, swimming and hanging out. We 
>> cooked a feast for dinner on the grills on their boat and slept on the 
>> boats. Then in the morning, we rafted the boats to shore, rode the 7.5 mile 
>> IMBA epic trail, and eventually made our way back to the marina. It was a 
>> fantastic trip with some great folks. Highly recommend combining biking and 
>> boating if you get the chance.
>>
>> Paul in AR
>>
>> [image: 20230528_122416.jpg]
>> [image: 20230529_085456.jpg][image: 20230529_091729.jpg][image: 
>> 20230529_091745.jpg][image: 20230529_095831.jpg]
>>
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: Ron's Ortho Bars in stock at Crust

2023-06-12 Thread Paul Clifton

Oh, I misunderstood what Eric wrote.

On Monday, June 12, 2023 at 8:35:17 AM UTC-5 brok...@gmail.com wrote:

> I don’t think they put them up again on the site… unless I somehow missed 
> the restock notification email. If you’re looking at them now as out of 
> stock, it’s likely because they’ve long been unavailable on the site.
>
> On Jun 12, 2023, at 9:18 AM, Paul Clifton  wrote:
>
> welp, they didn't last very long ...
>
>
>
> On Sunday, June 11, 2023 at 3:19:25 PM UTC-5 eric...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Hey all, in a recent video (May 31, 2023) Ron mentioned that another 
>> shipment of Ortho Bars are currently on a boat heading for North America. 
>> So set that restock alert! 
>>
>>
>> https://crustbikes.com/collections/handlebars/products/rons-ortho-bar-for-whenever-it-shows-up
>>
>> On Saturday, January 22, 2022 at 7:04:47 PM UTC-5 Eric Marth wrote:
>>
>>> For anyone who missed it, Ron's email update included a bit on the 
>>> availability, quick sale and re-stock of the back bars: 
>>>
>>>
>>>- 
>>>
>>>That brings me to the mild outcry over the rapid sell through of 
>>>Uncle Ron’s Orthopedic Back bar.  There is a narrative swirling around 
>>> the 
>>>internet that we do this sorta thing on purpose —- if we were only that 
>>>smart.  This is a short story about a small business with medium 
>>>popularity.  
>>>
>>>I generally prototype new products in my barn.  In the case of these 
>>>handlebars, i used a nitto bosco as a blank and bent them to where i 
>>> liked 
>>>it best.  I call up Matt from Crust and convince him to make them — 
>>> where 
>>>he generally trusts me with baked in reluctance.  Adam Sklar digitally 
>>>draws them up for me —- and its off to the best handlebar factory in 
>>> Taiwan 
>>>who also happen to make Renthal’s motocross bars.  So these handlebars 
>>> are 
>>>gonna take a while to make.  In normal times, 3-6 months is normal …. as 
>>>things sit now, you are lucky to have a turn around under 18 months.  
>>>
>>>So there you are with a high performance geriatric handlebar design 
>>>wondering how many you should order based on what kind of demand there 
>>> will 
>>>be in 18 months… will we even be here??? Fuck! Okay, 90 sounds about 
>>> right. 
>>> 90 it was.  90 gone in an afternoon.  More than 90 on order now…. you 
>>>guessed it …. 18 months away.  Hope you still want them! 
>>>
>>> On Sunday, January 16, 2022 at 7:47:17 PM UTC-5 joseph...@gmail.com 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Mine came in today, and let me just say, I wish I ordered two. They are 
>>>> fantastic!
>>>> On Friday, January 14, 2022 at 3:43:07 PM UTC-7 Andrew Huston wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> If anyone has buyers remorse, let me know and I'll take a set off your 
>>>>> hands. I lingered and lost.
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tuesday, January 11, 2022 at 12:46:23 PM UTC-5 John Phillips wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Eric, thanks for the link to the interview. 
>>>>>>
>>>>>> That is a beautiful bike. From the side, this set up looks a lot like 
>>>>>> my Hunqapillar with Alba's. I'm hoping a Nitto NP stem will get the 
>>>>>> Ortho 
>>>>>> bars down low enough as my saddle is a lot closer to the frame than 
>>>>>> Uncle 
>>>>>> Ron's saddle is. If the bars slip in the NP stem slips, I may try a 4 
>>>>>> bolt 
>>>>>> Wendy stem.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> John
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Monday, January 10, 2022 at 11:46:17 AM UTC-8 eric...@gmail.com 
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Because everything is better with pics – drive-side view as 
>>>>>>> described by John ;)  I love how beat to shit this bike is, the 
>>>>>>> mismatched 
>>>>>>> Paul brakes, the silver, the purple. Is the fork a replacement? The 
>>>>>>> article 
>>>>>>> says he's running a 38-20 double with an extra ring as bashguard. 
>>>>>>> Umm 
>>>>>>> that's groovy. 
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> There's a recent interview w. Ron on the Blue Lug site 
>>>>>>> <https://b

[RBW] Re: Ron's Ortho Bars in stock at Crust

2023-06-12 Thread Paul Clifton

welp, they didn't last very long ...

On Sunday, June 11, 2023 at 3:19:25 PM UTC-5 eric...@gmail.com wrote:

> Hey all, in a recent video (May 31, 2023) Ron mentioned that another 
> shipment of Ortho Bars are currently on a boat heading for North America. 
> So set that restock alert! 
>
>
> https://crustbikes.com/collections/handlebars/products/rons-ortho-bar-for-whenever-it-shows-up
>
> On Saturday, January 22, 2022 at 7:04:47 PM UTC-5 Eric Marth wrote:
>
>> For anyone who missed it, Ron's email update included a bit on the 
>> availability, quick sale and re-stock of the back bars: 
>>
>>
>>- 
>>
>>That brings me to the mild outcry over the rapid sell through of 
>>Uncle Ron’s Orthopedic Back bar.  There is a narrative swirling around 
>> the 
>>internet that we do this sorta thing on purpose —- if we were only that 
>>smart.  This is a short story about a small business with medium 
>>popularity.  
>>
>>I generally prototype new products in my barn.  In the case of these 
>>handlebars, i used a nitto bosco as a blank and bent them to where i 
>> liked 
>>it best.  I call up Matt from Crust and convince him to make them — where 
>>he generally trusts me with baked in reluctance.  Adam Sklar digitally 
>>draws them up for me —- and its off to the best handlebar factory in 
>> Taiwan 
>>who also happen to make Renthal’s motocross bars.  So these handlebars 
>> are 
>>gonna take a while to make.  In normal times, 3-6 months is normal …. as 
>>things sit now, you are lucky to have a turn around under 18 months.  
>>
>>So there you are with a high performance geriatric handlebar design 
>>wondering how many you should order based on what kind of demand there 
>> will 
>>be in 18 months… will we even be here??? Fuck! Okay, 90 sounds about 
>> right. 
>> 90 it was.  90 gone in an afternoon.  More than 90 on order now…. you 
>>guessed it …. 18 months away.  Hope you still want them! 
>>
>> On Sunday, January 16, 2022 at 7:47:17 PM UTC-5 joseph...@gmail.com 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Mine came in today, and let me just say, I wish I ordered two. They are 
>>> fantastic!
>>> On Friday, January 14, 2022 at 3:43:07 PM UTC-7 Andrew Huston wrote:
>>>
>>>> If anyone has buyers remorse, let me know and I'll take a set off your 
>>>> hands. I lingered and lost.
>>>>
>>>> On Tuesday, January 11, 2022 at 12:46:23 PM UTC-5 John Phillips wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Eric, thanks for the link to the interview. 
>>>>>
>>>>> That is a beautiful bike. From the side, this set up looks a lot like 
>>>>> my Hunqapillar with Alba's. I'm hoping a Nitto NP stem will get the Ortho 
>>>>> bars down low enough as my saddle is a lot closer to the frame than Uncle 
>>>>> Ron's saddle is. If the bars slip in the NP stem slips, I may try a 4 
>>>>> bolt 
>>>>> Wendy stem.
>>>>>
>>>>> John
>>>>>
>>>>> On Monday, January 10, 2022 at 11:46:17 AM UTC-8 eric...@gmail.com 
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Because everything is better with pics – drive-side view as described 
>>>>>> by John ;)  I love how beat to shit this bike is, the mismatched Paul 
>>>>>> brakes, the silver, the purple. Is the fork a replacement? The article 
>>>>>> says 
>>>>>> he's running a 38-20 double with an extra ring as bashguard. Umm 
>>>>>> that's 
>>>>>> groovy. 
>>>>>>
>>>>>> There's a recent interview w. Ron on the Blue Lug site 
>>>>>> <https://bluelug.com/contents/ultraromance-interview/>. He mentions 
>>>>>> there might be an aluminum bike like this in the early development 
>>>>>> stages 
>>>>>> with Crust. 
>>>>>>
>>>>>> [image: Ronnies-DURALCAN-S-Works-Stumpjumper-M2-4.jpg]
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Monday, January 10, 2022 at 1:20:07 PM UTC-5 John Phillips wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 69cm is just more than minimal width for my shoulders & wrists. But 
>>>>>>> I'm praying these bars aren't TOO flexy for me, and that pairing with a 
>>>>>>> long, low stem will give me some breathing room.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> In those Radavist photos, I noticed Uncle Ron has his stem down 
>>>>>>> below his saddle, and is gripping those bars at the inside end of those 
>>>>>>> grips.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> My intuition is telling me a bullmoose version of these bars with a 
>>>>>>> 170mm quill would fit my Hunqapillar better.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> John
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>

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[RBW] WTB: Child Stoker Kit for HubbuhHubbuh

2023-06-08 Thread Paul Clifton

I'd like to buy a used child stoker kit that fits the 1 1/4" seat tube of 
the HubbuhHubbuh. 

This Burley version looks like it would work, but I'd rather not pay 300 
bucks, and if anyone's kids have outgrown theirs, I'd love to give it a new 
home.
https://budgetbicyclectr.com/burley-tandem-child-stoker-conversion-kit-5368.html

Please reply off list if you have one, and feel free to reply on list if 
you have tips and tricks for using these things.

All the best,
Paul in AR

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[RBW] Re: WTB - Bosco-Moose handlebar (fillet braze) or Choco-Moose

2023-05-23 Thread Paul Richardson

i'll join the queue!

i'm looking for a 580mm boscomoose, not real picky on condition.  if you 
can ship it cheaper than bluelug, please send me a note!

thanks
paul
takoma park, md.

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[RBW] Re: boscomoose - pictures, experiences, comparisons?

2023-05-21 Thread Paul Richardson

thanks to all for taking the time to respond.

keith--tosco certainly looks nice but i'm really looking for 
moosebars--maybe choco, but probably bosco.  i'm surprised to see yours 
sloping down as much as they do.  the angle looks like the cheviot picture 
on the riv site, and (to my eye) a lot steeper downward than the photos on 
bluelug.  but gee gah maybe it's all an optical illusion, or a result of 
headtube angle?!

jay--sitting "more upright than i wanted" is...exactly what i want!

eric--bluelug 
<https://bluelug.com/bike-catalog/?post_type=post=nitto-rivendell-bosco-bullmoose-bar-thread>
 
is a treasure trove of photos--totally forgot to look there first.

time to start saving my allowance!

paul
takoma park, md.




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[RBW] boscomoose - pictures, experiences, comparisons?

2023-05-20 Thread Paul Richardson

howdy folks

i've been doing the best digging i can and cannot seem to wrangle very many 
pictures of rivs with boscomoose bars.  have you tried them?  did you like 
them?  i ride big bikes, so i'm not too concerned about knee strike on the 
bar-ends, which i gather can be a drawback for some.  their fixedness 
obviously makes for a riskier purchase than separate stem+bars, so i'd love 
to hear your experience before i take the plunge!

thanks in advance
paul
takoma park, md.

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[RBW] Re: FS: New Kenda Kozmik Lite Pro Tires 29x2.0

2023-04-29 Thread Paul M

Sold. Thanks.

On Wednesday, 26 April 2023 at 20:31:52 UTC-7 Paul M wrote:

> Another set mounted on my Hillibike.
>
> On Wednesday, 26 April 2023 at 20:24:04 UTC-7 Paul M wrote:
>
>> Nice multi-purpose tires with a tread design for off-road and street use 
>> that have never been used. Low profile knobs that blend into transition and 
>> edge knobs for a semi-slick tread pattern. This model is not tubeless 
>> compatible. $45/set plus $10 shipping.
>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: FS: Rosco Bubbe 50cm Purple FFHS

2023-04-27 Thread Paul Choi

SOLD

On Thursday, April 27, 2023 at 8:15:10 AM UTC-7 Paul Choi wrote:

> I purchased this frame and fork from Rivendell last year. I just replaced 
> it with another Rivendell. Excellent condition. No trades. Let me know if 
> you have any questions. You can pick it up if you are local. I'm in Santa 
> Clara. 
> [image: Rosco Bubbe.jpg]
> $800 plus shipping.
>
>
> Paul
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[RBW] Re: FS: 64cm Clem Smith Jr. L frameset

2023-03-31 Thread Paul M

Sorry but the frame was sold.

On Friday, 31 March 2023 at 06:55:42 UTC-7 Justin Kennedy (Brooklyn, NY) 
wrote:

> Graham, I saw your other WTB post and thought I'd chime in. I have a 
> similar PBH (91) and ride a 64 Clem as my daily commuter and love it. It 
> fits great, so I think this would work for you. Hopefully it's still 
> avail.  
>
> On Thursday, March 30, 2023 at 1:22:37 PM UTC-4 Graham McCall wrote:
>
>> Paul- is this still available??
>>
>> On Wednesday, September 14, 2022 at 10:12:36 AM UTC-5 Paul M wrote:
>>
>>> Last call for this frameset. $875 plus shipping. Thanks, Paul
>>>
>>>

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Re: [RBW] Rivendell Garage Sale Saturday

2023-03-26 Thread Paul M

If you go back to Matthew Williams 3rd post in this thread there are other 
pictures that show this frame with another top tube besides the diagonal 
sloping Platypus style top tube. It was cut off in Marty's picture. FWIW

On Sunday, 26 March 2023 at 13:45:06 UTC-7 Joe Bernard wrote:

>
> "A fellowship. A fellowship of Rivendells.
>
> (Tolkien fans: you know.)"
>
> PERFECT. 
>
> Paul M: I believe that Platypus-looking frame is indeed a Platy sans 
> decals and with a replacement fork. 
>
> Joe Bernard 
> On Saturday, March 25, 2023 at 7:41:04 PM UTC-7 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
> wrote:
>
>> A fellowship. A fellowship of Rivendells.
>>
>> (Tolkien fans: you know.)
>>
>> On Saturday, March 25, 2023 at 10:13:46 PM UTC-4 Ryan wrote:
>>
>>> an exaltation of Rivendells or maybe since it's a garage sale a haggle 
>>> of  Rivendells...or wait...no haggling
>>>
>>> or a bike of Rivendells (also a bike of hornets)
>>>
>>> Love those collective nouns for creatures
>>>
>>> https://grammar.yourdictionary.com/word-lists/list-of-names-for-groups-of-animals.html
>>>  
>>>
>>> On Saturday, March 25, 2023 at 8:59:09 PM UTC-5 Matthew Williams wrote:
>>>
>>>> Its owner said the frame was bare metal when it was purchased, and RBW 
>>>> offered to paint it. 
>>>>
>>>> I love all the custom touches people have added to their bikes. 
>>>>
>>>> What’s the collective noun for a group of bicycles? A flock of geese, a 
>>>> pride of lions, a murder of crows, a _ of Rivendells?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Mar 25, 2023, at 10:51 AM, Doug Van Cleve  wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Is that custom paint, or was there an orange Atlantis at some point?
>>>>
>>>> Doug
>>>>
>>>> On Sat, Mar 25, 2023 at 10:08 AM Keith Paugh  
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Did you achieve #7?
>>>>>
>>>>> (Beautiful Atlantis )
>>>>>
>>>>> k.
>>>>>
>>>>> On Mar 25, 2023, at 9:53 AM, Matthew Williams  
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
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[RBW] Rivendell Garage Sale Saturday

2023-03-23 Thread Paul Choi

I'm planning on going to garage sale on Saturday. Is anyone else here 
planning on going?
Hope to see some of the locals there. 

Cheers, 

Paul in Santa Clara

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Re: [RBW] Re: Widest fenders that easily fit a Joe Appa?

2023-03-22 Thread Paul Yokanovich

That's an idea Doug, however by reshaping the 63mm 700c fender to fit the 
smaller diameter 650b you would be widening the fender.  You would probably 
want to start with a fender that's more narrower.


Paul
On Thursday, March 9, 2023 at 3:34:50 PM UTC-6 Edwin W wrote:

> Berthoud 60mm (700c) fit my 58cm Joe Appa fine with no manipulation.
>
> Edwin
>
> On Thursday, March 9, 2023 at 2:48:37 PM UTC-6 Doug Van Cleve wrote:
>
>> Thanks Paul!  Great info, I think Honjos are more scratch than I want to 
>> spend though :^(
>>
>> I wonder if getting a set of the V-O 63mm 700c fenders with the plan to 
>> reshape them would be nuts?  Apparently you just gently bend them as if 
>> you’re trying to widen them and it tightens up the curve…  I suppose it 
>> would be pretty cool if it worked, and pretty darn lame if they ended up 
>> ugly or ruined…
>>
>> Doug
>>
>> On Thu, Mar 9, 2023 at 9:36 AM Paul (GlennsBikeGarage) <
>> pa...@myrealagent.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Doug,
>>>
>>> I'm currently installing the Honjo H80 62mm smooth fenders on my 
>>> daughter's 51cm Joe Appaloosa (650b) with 42mm Grand Bois tires. These 
>>> fenders fit without any special bending, cutting, or manipulation and I 
>>> would consider these the widest fender that will fit.  Hope that helps.
>>>
>>> Paul
>>>
>>

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Re: [RBW] Re: Widest fenders that easily fit a Joe Appa?

2023-03-09 Thread Paul (GlennsBikeGarage)

Doug,

I'm currently installing the Honjo H80 62mm smooth fenders on my daughter's 
51cm Joe Appaloosa (650b) with 42mm Grand Bois tires. These fenders fit 
without any special bending, cutting, or manipulation and I would consider 
these the widest fender that will fit.  Hope that helps.

Paul

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Re: [RBW] Rivendell Legos!

2023-03-07 Thread Paul Clifton

Patrick,
They still offer plenty of options for buckets of misc bricks: 
https://www.lego.com/en-us/product/lego-medium-creative-brick-box-10696

I think it's a good balance. The theme sets are great for learning to 
follow instructions and developing different spatial thinking skills, and 
def get kids excited to build something from their favorite show or movie. 
The freestyle sets are great for creativity and exploration.

But yeah, millennials really go hard on nostalgia and will spend big bucks 
on kits that combine their favorite childhood pastime with their favorite 
childhood media.

Paul in AR

On Monday, March 6, 2023 at 3:43:13 PM UTC-6 Patrick Moore wrote:

> It has been 16+ years since I bought my daughter little kid/big size 
> Legos, but I seem to recall that back in the old days (he said bitterly) 
> that Legos were simply standard shapes out of which the child could build 
> whatever he or she imagined. I know that 25 years ago or so my then 
> elementary school age nephew and a couple of friends built a whole 
> civilization out of Legos that lasted several years -- I seem to recall it 
> was a mix of violent Viking barbarism and Roman jurisprudence, with its own 
> constitution and code of draconian laws. They had not heard of Boxen. Is it 
> all theme kits nowadays?
>
> On Mon, Mar 6, 2023 at 12:35 PM Joe Mullins  wrote:
>
>>
>> https://www.lego.com/en-us/product/the-lord-of-the-rings-rivendell-10316?icmp=HP-SHH-Standard-VIP_Hero_10316_LOTR_Rivendell_VIP_Live_HP-PR-VIP-YZ0GDAOVIG
>>
>> Someone has to build this! 
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Re: [RBW] Re: FS - Acorn Large Front Trunk Bag

2023-03-05 Thread 'Paul Germain' via RBW Owners Bunch

I just saw your quick response on PayPal, Matt. Thanks. Sorry for the delay 
today. I will see the package off tomorrow and alter you to the tracking number 
and expected delivery, which should be two days.
This has been a good - and fun - bag since I purchased it. I hope you can get 
lots of use from it. If not satisfied, let me know.
Paul Germain


-Original Message-
From: Matt Beecher 
To: RBW Owners Bunch 
Sent: Sun, Mar 5, 2023 8:06 pm
Subject: [RBW] Re: FS - Acorn Large Front Trunk Bag

I sent a message this morning, but never heard back.  I'm assuming it may have 
already sold.  

On Saturday, March 4, 2023 at 5:13:03 PM UTC-6 Bikie#4646 wrote:

I posted this on the i-BOB list a couple weeks ago, but no takers there. I wish 
to repost it here and drop the price by $20:A somewhat rare "limited edition" 
production run, black waxed canvas in 
very good condition. I have owned over a dozen Acorn bags and am a 
believer. Just a guess, but I suspect this model proved to be too costly to 
produce for very long.
170 mm tall x 300 mm long x 140 mm wide. Two zippered side pockets 
protected from the elements by the top flap. Six attachment rings. Internal 
molded plastic stiffeners in front, back, bottom and sides. I have added 
thin foam sheets inside which quiet things down nicely. Easily removed. 
A slight circular ghost image of a P. Williamson "Goathead" patch remains 
on the top flap. Also, a half-dozen small pin holes where small 
commemorative pins were installed.
$80 plus $17.10 for USPS Flat Rate Priority box shipping, CONUS. Or if you 
wish, I will check your zip to see if shipping can be lowered.
PayPal preferred but check is fine too.)  PM me with any questions.
Photos in sunlight and in shadow: 
https://www.flickr.com/photos/bikecrazy-paul/albums/72177720306262139
Thanks,Paul GermainMidlothian, Va.
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Re: [RBW] FS: HUBBUHUBBUH Med F/F/H

2023-03-04 Thread Paul Armijo

Got any photos? Interested.

On Tue, Feb 28, 2023 at 4:10 PM clayt...@gmail.com 
wrote:

> Hi All,
>
> Hope you are doing well.
> Have a HUBBUHUBBUH Med F/F/H for sale.
> Also, have all the parts to make it a bike if of interest (silver cranks,
> Riv wheels, etc.)
> Local pickup in Healdsburg, CA or I can deliver in the Bay Area.
> It is in mint condition. Orange color
> Price: $2000, but if you take some parts we can work out a deal.
> PM for pics and any details you may wish to know about.
>
> Thanks!
> Clayton
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Re: [RBW] Things I Feel Guilty About: Bike Life

2023-03-04 Thread Paul Clifton

Fantastic post, Leah. Learning to empathize with tiny humans has been one 
of the most eye opening parts of parenthood for me.

In the Google Groups editor, the little square icon with the "mountains" is 
how you add an inline image. The photo has to be small enough (in 
megabytes, not pixels) for Google Groups to accept it. Otherwise, nothing 
will happen and it won't tell you what's wrong. Here's an inline image with 
a red circle around the icon:
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Paul in AR

P.S. It's worth making sure the photo isn't real big in terms of pixels 
also, otherwise it'll bleed off the screen. And Google Groups will not let 
you copy/paste images into the text. You have to select the image file or 
drag and drop it into the screen that opens when you click the button. 
Either way, your method seems to work just fine, so it's all good.
On Saturday, March 4, 2023 at 9:32:02 AM UTC-6 Doug H. wrote:

> This is gold. Your boys will remember these times fondly,  not sure the 
> pup will/did but dogs don't like to be left out of anything so I bet he had 
> fun! Good stuff.
> Doug
>
> On Saturday, March 4, 2023 at 9:40:18 AM UTC-5 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
> wrote:
>
>> Ok, first up. 
>>
>> This is the inaugural ride of my Betty Foy. I was living in Southern 
>> California at the time and had arrived home with my new bike after picking 
>> it up at RBW HQ in late 2012. I decided to make us all ride our bikes to 
>> church that Sunday morning. Please note how tiny my littler boy is. I saw 
>> this photo and remembered how many times I insisted he was not pedaling 
>> hard enough when we were riding up the hills. For Pete’s sake, the kid was 
>> 3 years old and weighed like 30 pounds. I was certain he was not doing his 
>> part.
>> [image: image0.png]
>>
>> You’ll notice my older son, who was almost always smiling and never 
>> complaining, has this Haro bike. It was the best we could get because he 
>> was too small for most everything else. It was a BMX bike, and probably not 
>> well-suited to what we were doing. However, I’ll draw your attention to the 
>> next photo…
>>
>> [image: image1.png]
>>
>> Which is this one. Look at this atrocity. We are visiting my parents, and 
>> they have sweetly bought him this new bike from the best sporting goods 
>> store in town. Pacific was supposedly made by the Schwinn people, the only 
>> reputable bike company we knew of by name. If it said Schwinn, it must be 
>> quality. This said Pacific, which meant Schwinn, so it was clearly quality. 
>> We had no idea at the time how monstrously heavy this bike was. Look at my 
>> tiny boy, suffering with every pedal stroke. The bike was way too big for 
>> him (“He’ll make it work, it’s what I did as a kid,” said the helpful 
>> salesman) and it outweighed him, easily. Is it even put together correctly? 
>> Is the fork right? I don’t know, but my sunny child is clearly not enjoying 
>> himself here. I’m sure I told him he was being ungrateful after his 
>> grandparents bought him a brand new bike. And also, pedal harder. 
>>
>> Finally, these last two. I got my act together and ordered that Islabike 
>> you see in the far right, so at least my poor kids were better off. But 
>> what about our dog?! Here he is, stuffed unceremoniously into a Backabike 
>> bag. I knew it was a bad idea but I consoled myself by believing it was the 
>> dog’s fault. He was desperate to come along and was making quite a fuss. 
>> His riding basket was full of backpacks, so this was the only way. 
>>
>> [image: image2.jpeg]
>> Also, here is he again, all 15 pounds of him, with a heavy wooden 
>> skateboard laying across his back. I’m sure he felt every bump. I am also 
>> sure that I was feeling smug for figuring out how to carry all this stuff 
>> on my bike. 
>> [image: image3.png]
>>
>> I’m sure there are more of these regrettable photos, and when I find 
>> them, I’ll put them here. In the meantime, go ahead and post your guilty 
>> bike life memories/photos here. I could use the company. 
>>
>> Leah
>>
>> On Mar 4, 2023, at 9:23 AM, Bicycle Belle Ding Ding!  
>> wrote:
>>
>> I was looking through an old photo album of my bikes. My boys were tiny, 
>> my dog was young, and my Betty Foy was sparkly and new. But you look at 
>> things through different eyes over the years, and today, I came across a 
>> couple of regrettable old photos that made me want to cry and then laugh, 
>> simultaneously. It was 2013. I was obviously the most excited person in my 
>> family about biking. I had just gotten that Betty Foy and thus I co

[RBW] Re: Bike rack suggestions

2023-02-25 Thread Paul Clifton

Page 4 of the PDF instructions show the preferred arm location. It's like 
basically as long as you can get it up to about 7 o'clock, you should be 
good:
https://rockymounts.com/content/51339_REV_5_sml.pdf

I didn't see any reviews or video instructions. must be niche product :)

I may spring for one of these next time I need another rack, which may be 
never, but it'd really encourage me to put fenders back on some of my bikes.

Paul

On Saturday, February 25, 2023 at 1:55:02 PM UTC-6 Paul Clifton wrote:

> yeah, John, I had the same thought. I might do a search on youtube or 
> something for a review that shows it actually working.
>
> Paul
>
>
>
> On Saturday, February 25, 2023 at 11:46:20 AM UTC-6 John Bokman wrote:
>
>> Thanks for the recommendation Paul. I'm wondering if the front arm can be 
>> rotated forward a bit? My fenders are longer in front than the ones shone 
>> on the Ebike.
>>
>> John
>> On Saturday, February 25, 2023 at 6:44:35 AM UTC-8 Paul Clifton wrote:
>>
>>> I've stayed out of this thread because the Yakima roof rack I use has 
>>> already been mentioned (the one that clamps the downtube) and my 
>>> Rockymounts rack isn't ideal for fenders, but I just went to Rockymounts 
>>> site and they have a rack specifically for fenders: 
>>> https://rockymounts.com/
>>>
>>> I looks like they have a hitch mount version: 
>>> https://rockymounts.com/products/highnoon-fc-solo-fits-both-1-25-2.html
>>> I guess it adds a backstop behind the front wheel, so the arm can grab 
>>> the front of the front wheel and squeeze it against the backstop. Pretty 
>>> smart design IMO. 
>>>
>>> And it looks like maybe there's a roof rack version launching in a 
>>> couple days. Here's a screenshot I grabbed:
>>> [image: Screenshot 2023-02-25 084056.png]
>>>
>>> FWIW, I'm really happy with the quality and stability of my Rockymounts 
>>> rack. It's this roof rack that works with really fat tires: 
>>> https://rockymounts.com/products/tomahawk.html. I think the price has 
>>> gone up, but when I was shopping I thought it seemed like the best 
>>> price/quality option, and it has definitely been great.
>>>
>>> I understand why people don't want to clamp the downtubes of their 
>>> bikes, but as far as functionally holding a bike with fenders, the old 
>>> Yakima Raptors work really really well if you can find one. Buying used is 
>>> a reasonable proposition. These things dont wear out: 
>>> https://www.pinkbike.com/buysell/1915462/
>>>
>>> So, just throwing that rockymounts option into the mix :)
>>>
>>> Paul in AR
>>>
>>> On Sunday, February 19, 2023 at 11:24:08 PM UTC-6 Pam Bikes wrote:
>>>
>>>> Looking for recommendations for a bike rack for a Prius for my fendered 
>>>> Betty.  Lots of tray mount racks seem to not be made for fenders.  And the 
>>>> hanging style would need a bar since my Betty is a step through.  This 
>>>> isn't for my car.  I don't like to drive.  Thanks in advance.
>>>
>>>

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[RBW] Re: Bike rack suggestions

2023-02-25 Thread Paul Clifton

yeah, John, I had the same thought. I might do a search on youtube or 
something for a review that shows it actually working.

Paul



On Saturday, February 25, 2023 at 11:46:20 AM UTC-6 John Bokman wrote:

> Thanks for the recommendation Paul. I'm wondering if the front arm can be 
> rotated forward a bit? My fenders are longer in front than the ones shone 
> on the Ebike.
>
> John
> On Saturday, February 25, 2023 at 6:44:35 AM UTC-8 Paul Clifton wrote:
>
>> I've stayed out of this thread because the Yakima roof rack I use has 
>> already been mentioned (the one that clamps the downtube) and my 
>> Rockymounts rack isn't ideal for fenders, but I just went to Rockymounts 
>> site and they have a rack specifically for fenders: 
>> https://rockymounts.com/
>>
>> I looks like they have a hitch mount version: 
>> https://rockymounts.com/products/highnoon-fc-solo-fits-both-1-25-2.html
>> I guess it adds a backstop behind the front wheel, so the arm can grab 
>> the front of the front wheel and squeeze it against the backstop. Pretty 
>> smart design IMO. 
>>
>> And it looks like maybe there's a roof rack version launching in a couple 
>> days. Here's a screenshot I grabbed:
>> [image: Screenshot 2023-02-25 084056.png]
>>
>> FWIW, I'm really happy with the quality and stability of my Rockymounts 
>> rack. It's this roof rack that works with really fat tires: 
>> https://rockymounts.com/products/tomahawk.html. I think the price has 
>> gone up, but when I was shopping I thought it seemed like the best 
>> price/quality option, and it has definitely been great.
>>
>> I understand why people don't want to clamp the downtubes of their bikes, 
>> but as far as functionally holding a bike with fenders, the old Yakima 
>> Raptors work really really well if you can find one. Buying used is a 
>> reasonable proposition. These things dont wear out: 
>> https://www.pinkbike.com/buysell/1915462/
>>
>> So, just throwing that rockymounts option into the mix :)
>>
>> Paul in AR
>>
>> On Sunday, February 19, 2023 at 11:24:08 PM UTC-6 Pam Bikes wrote:
>>
>>> Looking for recommendations for a bike rack for a Prius for my fendered 
>>> Betty.  Lots of tray mount racks seem to not be made for fenders.  And the 
>>> hanging style would need a bar since my Betty is a step through.  This 
>>> isn't for my car.  I don't like to drive.  Thanks in advance.
>>
>>

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Re: [RBW] Re: Gus and Susie ride off into the sunset

2023-01-31 Thread Paul M

I was hoping for a large when they went on sale last year and they 
certainly sold out fast. The XL is fine in the height but it's 68.5cm 
effective top tube is so long. The 56cm has a 66cm top tube length. They 
used a 31.8mm diameter top tube on the XL (like the Gus) and a 28.6mm top 
tube on the 56cm and smaller frames.

On Tuesday, 31 January 2023 at 16:30:47 UTC-8 fra...@gmail.com wrote:

> I wasn’t going to mention to very nice Large gold Susie I have listed on 
> here but I guess it’s okay. Haha. That green looks super nice Paul! I’m 
> glad you were able to snag a Large, they go quick!
>
> On Tuesday, January 31, 2023 at 4:22:00 PM UTC-8 Paul M wrote:
>
>> I have a new XL (59cm) Lime-Olive Susie Longbolt frameset for sale that 
>> I'm most likely posting later in the week. I picked up a 56cm Susie from 
>> the most recent Rivendell offering of the Hillibikes and need to pass the 
>> bigger one on. Price is $1900 plus shipping. New never ridden. Thanks, Paul
>>
>> On Tuesday, 31 January 2023 at 12:56:29 UTC-8 JW wrote:
>>
>>> All Susie/Gus are fillet brazed, regardless of color. 
>>>
>>> There was talk of going to tig welded after the last batch but it sounds 
>>> like they'll be discontinued all together.
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, January 31, 2023 at 12:51:03 PM UTC-8 r.ha...@live.com 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Thanks Steve! I too decided to part ways with my previous bike which 
>>>> was a lugged 1983 Specialized Expedition (kinda like a Homer) but what I 
>>>> really wanted was a step through frame. I initial wanted (and still do) 
>>>> was 
>>>> a 52cm Clem Smith L with ATB qualities. After building, I realized the Gus 
>>>> not really step through but its okay, I still enjoy it. Also, I thought 
>>>> all 
>>>> Gus/Susie are filet brazed, are they not?
>>>>
>>>> On Monday, January 30, 2023 at 12:26:11 PM UTC-5 steve...@gmail.com 
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Ron, judging from the pic your Gus looks to be one of filet brazed 
>>>>> models?  Nicely done build! I've been thinking about a Homer, but more 
>>>>> and 
>>>>> more the ATB qualities of the Gus/Susie and even the Platypus are looking 
>>>>> attractive, and I think would be a better successor for my hard tail 
>>>>> carbon 
>>>>> fiber MTB that I've decided to part ways with.
>>>>> On Tuesday, January 24, 2023 at 1:32:17 PM UTC-5 r.ha...@live.com 
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> First time Riv owner here sharing pics of my Gus build. I had lots of 
>>>>>> inspiration from the Blue Lug website 
>>>>>> <https://bluelug.com/contents/rivendell/gus-boots.php>. I have only 
>>>>>> rode it a few miles though and still trying to get the squeal out of the 
>>>>>> brakes. So far so fun!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://photos.app.goo.gl/nWnCevTy8pV3AKNZ7
>>>>>> [image: IMG_3291.JPG]
>>>>>> On Wednesday, January 11, 2023 at 6:59:32 PM UTC-5 Joe Bernard wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Richard, that is a fine and lovely bicycle. Enjoy! 
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Joe "I want one" Bernard 
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Wednesday, January 11, 2023 at 3:22:30 PM UTC-8 rmro...@gmail.com 
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> You all are right. I just got my wheels / tires and got my first 
>>>>>>>> good look at this rig in person. The bb is much higher than I 
>>>>>>>> anticipated - 
>>>>>>>> within 1/2 centimeter of my full suspension MTB (for sale:)).
>>>>>>>> This beast should be a hoot.
>>>>>>>> [image: image0.jpeg][image: image1.jpeg]
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Jan 10, 2023, at 9:12 AM, Ryan Frahm  wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I run a 172 on my Susie and it is plenty high with the 2.5” for 
>>>>>>>> some pretty chunky terrain. I have a 170 on my Clem with 2” and it is 
>>>>>>>> about 
>>>>>>>> an inch lower. These bikes are so long that I understand wanting a bit 
>>>>>>>> more 
>>>>>>>> clearance but if a 170 is comfortable I think

Re: [RBW] Seat Post Slippage

2023-01-26 Thread Paul M

My recent Susie calls for a 26.8 seatpost but with the stock Kalloy 
seatpost there is a fair amount of play. I had a 27.0 Kalloy seatpost that 
fit snug and solved the problem. I'm not sure a Nitto 26.8 seatpost would 
have solved the problem for this frame.

On Thursday, 26 January 2023 at 17:06:49 UTC-8 J wrote:

> I had awful seat post slip on my Romanceur when I first built it up. I 
> finally resorted to $30 carbon friction paste and haven had a slip since. 
> Also had the same slipping on my old All rounder a shop out of town I was 
> visiting showed me the friction paste fix. Both seat posts were Nitto S65
>
> On Thursday, January 26, 2023 at 6:24:38 PM UTC-5 Joe Bernard wrote:
>
>> The brand matters if I keep finding that one a little undersized and was 
>> able to solve the problem with a Nitto. Which is what I did, which is why I 
>> mentioned it. 
>>
>> On Thursday, January 26, 2023 at 2:25:49 PM UTC-8 Garth wrote:
>>
>>> I'll second the greasing the bolt head and threads. I had a recent 
>>> experience with a Unior Truing stand whose uprights were out not parallel. 
>>> They were adjusted using 2 bolted collars, not unlike Park stands. Neither 
>>> had a lick of grease in the threads, and one wasn't even set. Loosening 
>>> them, I heard that awful sound of metal on metal, so tightening them as 
>>> they were wasn't happening without some lubricant. I applied some 
>>> anti-seize compound on the threads, and then they were easily tightened 
>>> like cutting butter. 
>>>
>>> The brand of seatpost has nothing to do with it slipping in the frame, 
>>> given it's the correct diameter. Do measure. 
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thursday, January 26, 2023 at 4:18:46 PM UTC-5 mrg...@gmail.com 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 I had this on my Atlantis, took it to my LBS (Cycleast) who used a 
 cordless drill with a flex cylinder hone brush attachment for about 60 sec 
 and never had another issue. 

 mike


 On Thursday, January 26, 2023 at 3:11:21 PM UTC-6 Joe Bernard wrote:

> I'd go ahead with the Super Grip and crank down on the bolt a little 
> more. The worse that happens is you snap the bolt and need a new one but 
> that's not likely. If this doesn't work then you just got unlucky with 
> the 
> diameter on the post, I've run into this on a couple frames with it. 
>
> On Thursday, January 26, 2023 at 12:57:32 PM UTC-8 jak...@me.com 
> wrote:
>
>> I did swap my stem out for a Nitto, but did not have issues with 
>> slippage for the few miles of shake-down use on my new Sam.  It also 
>> held 
>> the bike for it's build, but that is no real test.   I left the binding 
>> bolt stone dry as it is a nylock.  This is not an area where I wanted to 
>> over-torque and torque specs are generally fairly low for the post due 
>> to 
>> the surface area involved.  I use anti-seize on the post, and the frame 
>> has 
>> a ton of anti-corrosion goo, so it's pretty slippery in there.
>>
>> Here is what my Sam Gap look like for comparisons.
>>
>> [image: Sam Gap.JPG]
>>
>> On Thursday, January 26, 2023 at 3:38:27 PM UTC-5 peter...@gmail.com 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Is there grease on the binder bolt threads. Is the head of the bolt 
>>> greased where it contacts the frame? If either answer is no, you just 
>>> may 
>>> not have the binder bolt tight enough.
>>>
>>> On Thu, Jan 26, 2023 at 3:14 PM Drew Henson  
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Anyone have any issues with the stock seat post (the one included 
 with the frame) slipping with the latest sam frames? Happened to me on 
 my 
 first shakedown ride yesterday. 

 I have a new nitto stem and some park tool supergrip on the way but 
 was curious if anyone else experienced this. Or if there's any advice 
 on 
 using the park tool super grip?


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[RBW] Re: Nice Rivendell, Goodrich and Sevens for Sale

2023-01-23 Thread Paul Clifton

I think you're right about your assumptions.
Would you mind letting the list know what size they are when you find out?

Paul in AR

On Monday, January 23, 2023 at 11:42:52 AM UTC-6 mmille...@gmail.com wrote:

> Hey all. A local STL fellow just posted some bikes 
> <https://www.facebook.com/groups/591659724221291/permalink/5766806640039881/> 
> for sale locally. I just talked with him and am going to go look at them. 
> There are a couple frames I'm not familiar with. Since this is where all 
> the experts are, is there anything I should be looking for? I assume the 
> grey AHH and the brown Ram are custom paint jobs. Is the orange one likely 
> custom or an early Riv? And thoughts on the Goodrich? They all look to be 
> fairly similar builds, and I'm wondering if nothing differentiates when I 
> ride them, if I should consider anything else before buying (assuming the 
> boss OKs it. Ha). I do see the brakes are different on the AHH models. 
> Thanks, everyone.

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[RBW] Gus and Susie ride off into the sunset

2023-01-08 Thread Paul M

If you read the current Rivendell Blahg (Grants blog) he mentions that the 
last fillet brazed Hillibikes, the Gus & Susie shipment that just arrived, 
will be it for that those models being made. So last chance at owning a 
beautiful ATB frameset.

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[RBW] Re: First Ride of 2023

2023-01-03 Thread Paul Clifton

Thanks for sharing y'all. I love all the different conditions and distances 
and reasons for riding. It's all very Rivish to me.

Paul

On Tuesday, January 3, 2023 at 6:06:17 PM UTC-5 Paul in Dallas wrote:

>
>
> Was able to start off the year with 31 miles on my Sam Hillsborne in low 
> 70 degree temperatures.
>
> Paul in Dallas
>
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[RBW] Re: The Bombadil on Ebay

2022-12-21 Thread Paul M

Sure resembles the original Breezer Series 1mountain bikes. Diagonal tube, 
Magura motorcycle brake levers, TA Specialties crankset, Brooks B-72...nice!

On Wednesday, 21 December 2022 at 16:55:56 UTC-8 Luke Hendrickson wrote:

> Yes! Spoke to Bailey at Sincere Cycles here in Santa Fe about it. Wald 
> bars and John swapped the wheels off of his Hunq for now until another 
> set’s built up. Thank you for posting, Eric. I’m one of the non-IG ppl. 
>
> On Wednesday, December 21, 2022 at 4:34:23 PM UTC-7 eric...@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>
>> Update on Watson's Bombi: https://www.instagram.com/p/CmaZWguujlT/
>>
>> And a pic for those who don't do instagram!
>>
>> [image: Screen Shot 2022-12-21 at 6.33.15 PM.png]
>>
>> On Thursday, December 15, 2022 at 2:17:22 PM UTC-5 bryan...@yahoo.com 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> For anyone that is interested, John Watson of the Radavist scooped up 
>>> this frame super quick (within a few minutes). I sent him a message as he 
>>> is building it up - it's going to get decked out in some very nice retro 
>>> parts as probably a trail centric build. Looking forward to seeing it done.
>>>
>>> On Sunday, December 11, 2022 at 2:13:00 AM UTC-5 foolis...@gmail.com 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Wow, this has my silver Bombadil a tad envious. What a beautiful banana 
 frame! 

 Does anyone have more production details on the Bombadil? How many 
 frames were made? Mine has always been a machine of lore to me.



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[RBW] Re: FACEBOOK Rivendell Bicycles Buy/Sell/Trade ALERT ! - Pre-Production Rivendell Road. Size 54.5 cm (C-T)

2022-12-17 Thread Paul Clifton

Freaking gorgeous! I'd love to see some higher res close ups of that bike. 
Thanks for sharing.

Paul in AR

On Friday, December 16, 2022 at 8:50:46 PM UTC-6 krhe...@gmail.com wrote:

> https://www.facebook.com/groups/3127504017358010/?mibextid=6NoCDW
> by *Bruce Herbitter* 
>
> Update: someone is interested in the complete bike so it is on hold 
> pending final details. I’ll delete the post if it sells or renew this post 
> if the sale doesn’t go all the way through. Thanks all 
> 1995 pre production sample for the Rivendell Road. Size 54.5 cm (C-T) 
> Frame is Reynolds 753, fork blades are Reynolds 531. Converted to 650B. My 
> garage is too crowded and this bike doesn’t get the miles it used to the 
> older I get. Made by Waterford. Paint looks good from a few feet away but 
> has beausage. Maybe 7.5 out of 10?
> Nitto 135 handlebar, Nitto tall Technomic stem, Tektro R556 long reach 
> brakes, Suntour brake levers, Silver ratchet shift levers, Campy Victory FD
> Shimano Ultegra long cage RD, Campy Veloce 50/34 x 170 crankset
> Selle Anatomica X2 saddle. Wheels are 32s cross 3 laced Velocity A23 with 
> butted spokes on Shimano 105 rear and Deore LX front hubs. Tires are Pari 
> Moto. Chris King stainless cages. Pump, pedals, bell, and Banjo Bros bags 
> included. 
> $1,600 complete as shown + shipping at cost (or free pick up near 
> Montgomery AL) or $800 Frameset only, same shipping deal. Message me to 
> discuss, ask questions, etc.
> 23
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Re: [RBW] Rosco Mtn Mixte?

2022-12-17 Thread Paul Clifton

Brian, FWIW (not much, especially since this thread is about the Massive 
Mountain Mixte) - but I think there were teens of the mediums made. They 
ended up doing two runs of them, and one of them was at least 10 bikes. So 
they're less scarce, but only slightly. The mediums used Appaloosa forks.

Paul in AR

On Saturday, December 17, 2022 at 8:46:54 PM UTC-6 Coal Bee Rye Anne wrote:

> Thanks, Leah, for the heads up for the long legged of us who happen to be 
> non-facebook-users!  That is certainly Will’s Mega Roscoe MTN Mixte and I 
> think made in the single digits (I guess all sizes of the Roscoe Mixte were 
> down in single digits but can’t remember.). This size MTN Mixte was based 
> on forks for designed but never built 64 or maybe 66cm Hunqapillars (I 
> forget the exact size but it was bigger than the biggest made 62cm Hunq.) 
>
> If this were frame only and local I would definitely need to consider make 
> physical and financial space to pursue it.  I strongly prefer the 
> aesthetics of this model vs. the Clem L for some reason.  It’s somewhat 
> hard to explain, because I’m not opposed to the curved L in any way and 
> even really like the Gus/Susie top tube curves… I think it’s more how the 
> Roscoe’s straight, nearly parallel tubes kind of resemble a Raleigh Sports 
> three speed step through.
>
> I was on the fence for a bit between this model and the Clem H once I 
> caught wind of their imminent release. Without the finances for both, I 
> opted for the value and certainty of the 65cm Clem complete, which was 
> released first and in greater numbers, although still limited in the XL 
> size for the discontinued H type.  I’d eventually come to completely miss 
> the initial announcement of the Roscoe presale until after they (XL) were 
> all accounted for anyway so it kind of worked out for the best that I went 
> for the Clem when the opportunity came as there.  I always thought I’d 
> still try to snag one of these Roscoes if they ever became available on the 
> second hand market but would definitely need to be frame/fork for me to 
> even make it work and still retain the Clem.
>
> Looks like a really nice build and hope that for whoever ends up grabbing 
> it, it puts a huge smile on their face every time the get in the saddle!
>
> Brian 
> Lawrenceville NJ
>
>
> On Saturday, December 17, 2022, Mackenzy Albright  
> wrote:
>
>> I really aesthetically enjoy the rosco bubbe. It's too bad it was such a 
>> short lived frame set. That XL is a good looking bike.  
>>
>> On Saturday, December 17, 2022 at 9:25:04 AM UTC-8 fra...@gmail.com 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I think the wheelset alone makes it semi reasonable. Having a frame/fork 
>>> built will be a small fortune with no guarantee they will nail the usual 
>>> Riv magic!
>>>
>>> On Saturday, December 17, 2022 at 9:16:14 AM UTC-8 
>>> captaincon...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>
>>>> One of the best Rivs ever.  My wife has the medium, but it was a $900 
>>>> ish frame new.  You could just have a builder clone it (or a small run of 
>>>> frames) for under $3k.
>>>>
>>>> On Saturday, December 17, 2022 at 10:45:32 AM UTC-6 Bicycle Belle Ding 
>>>> Ding! wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> https://www.facebook.com/groups/3127504017358010/permalink/5447624762012579/
>>>>>
>>>>> On Saturday, December 17, 2022 at 11:44:59 AM UTC-5 Bicycle Belle Ding 
>>>>> Ding! wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> There’s a post on the Facebook Rivendell buy/sell/trade group that 
>>>>>> has a Rosco with the lift-a-tube shown for sale. I can’t seem to post 
>>>>>> the 
>>>>>> link here - will try in a second post. It’s $$$ at 3k, but I know people 
>>>>>> go 
>>>>>> crazy for these for some reason, so heads up and maybe a Merry Christmas 
>>>>>> present for someone.
>>>>>> Leah 
>>>>>>
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[RBW] Re: Cockpit Quandaries - Friction bar ends for a new rider

2022-12-16 Thread Paul Clifton

Thanks David and Joe,
I just remembered to ask ... any recommendations for cheap 26" wheel 
specific racks, rear mostly, but either I guess. 

The 700c compatible racks I have around sit so far above the rear wheel 
that the seat basically goes all the way down on top of them :`(

Paul

On Friday, December 16, 2022 at 11:53:31 AM UTC-6 Paul Clifton wrote:

> I thought y'all might like to see how the Clemified Hard Rock came out. I 
> put Boscos instead of Albatross on because it seemed like it'd work better. 
>
> [image: hard-rock-side-sm.jpg][image: hard-rock-front-sm.jpg]
>
> It's worth mentioning that the seat tube bottoms out with about 3 inches 
> of post still showing. The means that the minimum saddle height (as is) is 
> like 32" from the ground. So she won't be able to put her feet on the 
> ground while sitting on the seat anyway. I thought about cutting the seat 
> post down, and I still might. But if I cut off too much, she won't be able 
> to get the seat up to her PBH minus 11 saddle height from the bottom 
> bracket. So I figured I'd wait and let her ride it before I make any 
> destructive modifications.
>
> The stem has a similar problem. Between the minimum insertion mark and 
> where the stem bottoms out is like 1 inch (because the head tube is so 
> short). So I have it set up with a Technomic to get the bars high, but I 
> will take a stem with a shorter quill in case we need to get them much 
> lower. I'll also take the Albatross bars with me, in case the Boscos come 
> back way too far.
>
> But I rode it around to button everything up this morning, and it feels 
> GREAT! Now just to get it half way across the country and see how it works 
> for its intended rider.
>
> Paul in AR
>
> On Saturday, November 26, 2022 at 5:03:26 PM UTC-6 Paul Clifton wrote:
>
>> What do y'all think about putting friction bar end shifters on Albatross 
>> bars for a new rider?
>>
>> I'm just looking for opinions since I'm stumped on this build.
>>
>> My options are more-or-less indexed or friction 9 speed Microshift 
>> thumbies, friction bar ends, or buy some rapid fire shifters.
>>
>> I (selfishly) want to keep the thumbies for a different build for myself. 
>> And I'd have to buy a set of rapid fire shifters - which has its own 
>> problems (derrailer/cassette mismatching ...).
>>
>> So I want to know - Do you think a new rider would be irritated by 
>> friction bar ends?
>>
>> Here's the long story:
>>
>> I have a very short friend (4'11" - PBH is 72). If money and availability 
>> were no object, I'd buy her a 45cm Clem and be done with it, but I can't do 
>> that myself, and she'd never spend that kind of money on a bike (at least 
>> not until she catches the biking bug from this bike I'm building her since 
>> it'll be the first bike that's ever fit her).
>>
>> So my goal is to build a bike that fits her and is so fun to ride that 
>> she'll want to ride bikes all the time and eventually just buy a Clem.
>>
>> I finally found a frame that will fit her. It's a tiny (41 cm) 90s 
>> Hardrock step through with 26" wheels and Shimano 200ES drive train, which 
>> is low end 90s 7-speed stuff. It has a triple crank that I will leave in 
>> place (buttery smooth even after 30 years). Both derailers are in good 
>> shape, but they're low end 90s stuff, so I doubt they feel great, but I bet 
>> they'd work with friction just fine. It came with junky old rapid fire 
>> shifters, so those are definitely getting replaced.
>>
>> I'm planning to put Albatross bars on this bike, so my quandary is about 
>> the drivetrain. I'd like to use as many parts from my bin as possible, but 
>> I can't decide which combo is gonna work best and be the most fun for a 
>> timid rider. Buying new parts is no big deal, but I don't see the point in 
>> spending a bunch of money in the event she doesn't ride it much, so here 
>> are the relevant parts from my bin:
>>
>>- Rear wheel options - 7 speed cassette wheel with good cassette. 
>>8/9/10 speed wheel with no cassette.
>>- Shifters -Microshift 9 speed thumbies (I kinda want to keep these 
>>for another build). Shimano bar ends that no longer index.
>>- Derailers - New Altus 8 speed RD. Old Sora 9 speed RD. Shimano 
>>600ES 7 speed RD.
>>
>> So here are my options:
>>
>>
>>1. Keep the old 7 speed stuff. Friction bar ends or friction thumbies.
>>2. Buy a new 8 speed cassette. Use the Altus RD from my box. Friction 
>>thumbies or bar ends.
>>3. Buy a 9 speed cassette and a 9 speed derailer. Indexed Micros

[RBW] Re: Gus - bikepacking mode

2022-12-16 Thread Paul Clifton

Thanks for the info, Brian and Scott! I'll check out those spots.

I'm really only familiar with the panhandle, and have been lucky to spend 
several weeks in winter at a house on Indian Pass. FWIW - if your travels 
ever take you to the area, Leon Sinks 
<https://goo.gl/maps/RPVk6WXvfcHQdT5k9>, near Tallahassee, is definitely 
worth a visit. I don't know about the camping situation there, and riding 
there wouldn't be a joy, unless there's a back way I don't know about. But 
a couple hours of hiking around and seeing the strange sink holes is a very 
cool.

Paul

On Friday, December 16, 2022 at 10:29:42 AM UTC-6 greenteadrinkers wrote:

> Brian, here are a few places one of my friends likes to go:
>
> https://floridahikes.com/florida-trail-croom-hiking-trail
> https://alafiatrails.com/
> https://www.floridastateparks.org/learn/biking-cross-florida-greenway
>
> Some of that seems a bit more intense mnt. bike stuff, but some of those 
> areas are just fun to spend a day on the green and blue trails.
>
> From what I gather the "Croom" area is supposed to be amazing.
> -Scott
>
> On Friday, December 16, 2022 at 11:18:34 AM UTC-5 brok...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Ryan, thank you! Regarding the Pec Deck, I didn't actually buy the "bag 
>> 'o parts" Ronnie was selling on his site for $75... I had enough spare rack 
>> struts and Nitto daruma bolts to make the exact same thing. The only thing 
>> I changed was upgrading to a solid 3/8" aluminum rod (from McMaster) for 
>> the cross piece (I was previously using just a long Nitto strut). As I'm 
>> sure you've experienced, the rackless support method is pretty rock solid, 
>> and I find it's no less solid with the Edelux attached. Maybe there's a 
>> slight bit more bounce to the light when riding at night, but it's honestly 
>> hardly noticeable. I'm using the standard Nitto light mount for rack struts.
>>
>> -Brian
>>
>> On Friday, December 16, 2022 at 11:05:19 AM UTC-5 Brian Turner wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks for the kind words, Paul and Scott! The past two winters, my wife 
>>> and I spent our Jan - Feb on a barrier island called Anna Maria Island. 
>>> It's close to Bradenton / Sarasota, and basically within the Tampa Bay / 
>>> St. Pete area, but you have to drive all the way around the bay to get to 
>>> it. Her parents own property there, so we can take our dogs and our bikes 
>>> and work remotely from there. The first year was full-on pandemic, so we 
>>> kinda laid low. Last year, we made more of an effort to get out on our 
>>> bikes and find places to ride. Mostly just day trips to gravel routes out 
>>> on the prairie. A couple of places I found that were nice and within an 
>>> hour's drive or so were Myakka River State Park, and Duette Preserve. I 
>>> didn't really find any good overnight options, and would prefer to do those 
>>> with others even if I did. However, this year I contacted a group out of 
>>> Orlando that does monthly s24o rides and coffeeoutside events. My plan is 
>>> to do a couple of rides with them, even though it's a bit further of a 
>>> drive from where we are living than I would like. I'm certainly open to 
>>> other recommendations if anyone familiar with the area has any!
>>> -Brian
>>>
>>> On Friday, December 16, 2022 at 10:32:00 AM UTC-5 Paul Clifton wrote:
>>>
>>>> Awesome setup and perfect kit, Brian. Thanks for sharing. Where are you 
>>>> planning to camp in Florida? I'm always interested in spots to check out 
>>>> down there.
>>>>
>>>> I'm  really eager to get my Gus out on an overnight sometime soon, and 
>>>> there's a chance I'll make it to the state park on Saint Joe Penninsula 
>>>> <https://goo.gl/maps/SDUUSAHYtLTc1p7r9> in early January, but I've 
>>>> barely had a chance to figure out how I'd carry my gear, and I'd have to 
>>>> get it all sorted by this Saturday. I had a full frame bag on my Jones, 
>>>> and 
>>>> I pack a little heavier than you, so I expect panniers might be in order, 
>>>> so maybe just a nice coffee outside outing around there somewhere will 
>>>> scratch the itch until it warms up here in the Ozarks.
>>>>
>>>> Paul in AR
>>>>
>>>> On Friday, December 16, 2022 at 8:05:39 AM UTC-6 brok...@gmail.com 
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Thanks Eric! Yes, I was happy to see Brendon's clever use of that 
>>>>> half-frame bag. In that case, the shortened section of fender is crucial 
>>>>> to 
>>>

[RBW] Re: Gus - bikepacking mode

2022-12-16 Thread Paul Clifton

Awesome setup and perfect kit, Brian. Thanks for sharing. Where are you 
planning to camp in Florida? I'm always interested in spots to check out 
down there.

I'm  really eager to get my Gus out on an overnight sometime soon, and 
there's a chance I'll make it to the state park on Saint Joe Penninsula 
<https://goo.gl/maps/SDUUSAHYtLTc1p7r9> in early January, but I've barely 
had a chance to figure out how I'd carry my gear, and I'd have to get it 
all sorted by this Saturday. I had a full frame bag on my Jones, and I pack 
a little heavier than you, so I expect panniers might be in order, so maybe 
just a nice coffee outside outing around there somewhere will scratch the 
itch until it warms up here in the Ozarks.

Paul in AR

On Friday, December 16, 2022 at 8:05:39 AM UTC-6 brok...@gmail.com wrote:

> Thanks Eric! Yes, I was happy to see Brendon's clever use of that 
> half-frame bag. In that case, the shortened section of fender is crucial to 
> keep it off the tire. 
>
> Re: my camping setup, I've been bikepacking since about 2010, so I've had 
> a good amount of time to acquire and test stuff out, and of course 
> everything gets better and lighter and smaller each year. Over the years 
> I've tried to whittle my kit down to the stuff that works best for me 
> without any extraneous gear. Here's a basic setup for about 3 seasons here. 
> Of course, things can get bulkier and heavier in the Winter, so I adjust as 
> needed:
>
> Saddlebag:
> tent (Big Agnes Copper Spur HV UL1 solo tent - bikepacking version with 
> the short poles)
> Thermarest seat pad
> Lezyne micro floor drive HV pump
> tire kit (spare tube, tubeless repair kit, 2oz bottle of sealant, digital 
> pressure gauge)
> tool kit
> small, lightweight bike lock (Abus Bordo Lite 6055)
> change of clothes (usually minimal)
> rain jacket and/or Patagonia Nano Puff depending on weather
>
> Handlebar bag:
> Big Agnes 45 deg down bag (there's no insulation in the bottom so it works 
> like a quilt with a sleeve for a sleep pad)
> Nemo Tensor insulated inflatable pad
> Nemo Fillo Elite pillow
> first aid kit
> basic cook kit (MSR Pocket Rocket, Snowpeak solo Ti pot, fuel canister, 
> Opinel knife, long-handled Ti spoon)
> Aeropress Go + 1-2 days worth of coffee - fits in side pocket of bag
> Electronics (battery bank, headlamp, charging cables) - fits in side 
> pocket of bag
> Food (typically I go minimalist and use Good To Go meals, or similar 
> dehydrated prepared meals)
>
> Snacks, electrolyte tabs, and phone typically go in the stem bag or top 
> tube bag
>
> I think that's everything. Happy to answer any questions about specific 
> items!
> -Brian
>
>
> On Friday, December 16, 2022 at 7:50:45 AM UTC-5 eric...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Also very curious to know a typical camping set up and pack list for the 
>> low weight you describe hauling :) 
>>
>> On Friday, December 16, 2022 at 7:49:53 AM UTC-5 Eric Marth wrote:
>>
>>> Nice rig, Brian! 
>>>
>>> I'm reminded of Brendon's seat-tube bag on his Susie, this was the best 
>>> picture I could find. I believe it's a repurposed top tube bag. 
>>>
>>> [image: DSC_0190.jpg]
>>>
>>> On Friday, December 16, 2022 at 12:53:51 AM UTC-5 Luke Hendrickson wrote:
>>>
>>>> Goddamn that’s SICK
>>>>
>>>> On Thursday, December 15, 2022 at 7:00:09 PM UTC-8 fra...@gmail.com 
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> What a beautiful setup! I can’t wait to see pictures from the next 
>>>>> trip! I’ll be watching to see what the bag behind the seat tube comes out 
>>>>> like, I’ve definitely been interested in using that space. 
>>>>>
>>>>> Is your light mount solid on the makeshift Pec Deck? I was thinking 
>>>>> about doing that as well but thought it might not be super stable. I have 
>>>>> it mounted with the stock mount the Edelux came with but haven’t had a 
>>>>> chance to test it very much. It has been studded riding for weeks and I 
>>>>> have those on the Clem with fenders… Loving your setup!
>>>>>
>>>>> On Thursday, December 15, 2022 at 1:59:16 PM UTC-8 brok...@gmail.com 
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I think I've finally gotten my bikepacking setup dialed in on my Gus, 
>>>>>> and thought I'd share. My previous efforts were a bit slapdash, but I'm 
>>>>>> planning on a couple of overnighters down in Florida this winter and 
>>>>>> want 
>>>>>> to take Gus with me. After all, that's what I bought this bike for (I 
>>>>>

Re: [RBW] Cliffhanger alternatives?

2022-12-13 Thread Paul Clifton

This just reminded me ...  I scored some 27.5x2.8" WTB Rangers the other 
day. I wonder if they'll be taller on the cliffhangers.

On Tuesday, December 13, 2022 at 5:53:35 PM UTC-6 Paul Clifton wrote:

> Thanks for the chart Laing!
>
> Deore's and many others clear 2.8" G Ones on a 650b Cliffhanger on the Gus 
> just fine. I guess I get some leaves in between the tire and the cable 
> sometimes, but that happens with all rim brakes IME.
>
> The Motolites technically cleared, if I set them up very close to the rim 
> so that the arms were as vertical as possible. But it was too close for 
> comfort, and I did hear some rubbing occasionally, but not sure what was 
> deforming to cause it ...
>
> Paul in AR
>
> On Tuesday, December 13, 2022 at 12:54:46 PM UTC-6 lconley wrote:
>
>> Shimano Deores are only 4mm (1/6") longer than Paul Motolites. If you 
>> want something longer:
>>
>> [image: V brakes.JPG]
>>
>> Laing
>>
>> On Tuesday, December 13, 2022 at 1:45:07 PM UTC-5 brok...@gmail.com 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Paul brings up an excellent point. If you plan on running the max tire 
>>> size on your Gus, just make sure the brake you use will clear it. I had 
>>> already purchased MotoLites for mine before even considering a tire size. 
>>> Ended up going with 2.5” Ehlines, which turned out to clear the brakes by 
>>> maybe 1cm. I doubt I’d feel comfortable with any less clearance just due to 
>>> the chances of picking up mud and rocks and sticks on chunky treads. Of 
>>> course, this says more about the limitations of certain brakes than it does 
>>> tires. With the right brake choice, you should be able to run the 2.8s no 
>>> problem… just keep it in mind.
>>>
>>> On Dec 13, 2022, at 12:56 PM, Paul Clifton  wrote:
>>>
>>> 
>>>
>>> Richard,
>>> I run 2.8" G-ones on Cliffhangers on my Gus without any problems. I 
>>> don't think the frame would take a bigger tire, and v-brakes almost 
>>> certainly won't. I already had to Swap the Paul Motolites for Deores to 
>>> clear the 2.8" G-ones.
>>>
>>> So if you want Cliffhangers on your Susie, no need to worry about the 
>>> rim width being a limiting factor.
>>>
>>> Paul in AR
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, December 13, 2022 at 10:02:21 AM UTC-6 rmro...@gmail.com 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi Scott. Right now thinking 2.6” Maxxis Recons. Possibly Teravail 
>>>> Ehline 2.5” but I read they really are more like 2.25”. I’ve owned true 
>>>> “plus” bikes before & ran 2.8”-3.0” tires on 30-45mm wide rims with 
>>>> success. Not sure I want to go that big. Not a lot to choose from in rim 
>>>> brake rims.
>>>>
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>
>>>> On Dec 13, 2022, at 10:42 AM, 'Scott Luly' via RBW Owners Bunch <
>>>> rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> 
>>>>
>>>> Richard, what width tire are you wanting to run on your new Gus, 2.8?
>>>>
>>>> I'm getting some Cliffs built for my new Gus, and I plan on running 2.6 
>>>> to begin with and like having the option to run 2.8 tires. 2.6 is within 
>>>> Velocity's recommended rim width. I think one could safely go outside of 
>>>> "recommended" tire width and run a 2.8 on a Cliff. It's .1 per side wider. 
>>>> It's not like going from a 1.9 to say a 2.8.
>>>>
>>>> I find a decent selection of 2.6 tires out there, 2.8 not so much. Have 
>>>> you got a good 2.8 in mind? Do tell. I'd like to look into it. I wouldn't 
>>>> hesitate to run 2.8 on my Cliffs, whenever they show up on my door step...
>>>>
>>>> Also, please share what shakes out in your BB search for your Gus.
>>>>
>>>> Best,
>>>>
>>>> Scott in about to get very cold Montana
>>>>
>>>> On Tuesday, December 13, 2022 at 08:29:36 AM MST, Richard Rose <
>>>> rmro...@gmail.com> wrote: 
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 2.5"-2.6" tires seem to be at the very upper limits for the venerable 
>>>> Cliffhanger. Is anyone aware of a 700c  rim brake rim that is a bit wider? 
>>>> I have not found one. 
>>>>
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Re: [RBW] Cliffhanger alternatives?

2022-12-13 Thread Paul Clifton

Thanks for the chart Laing!

Deore's and many others clear 2.8" G Ones on a 650b Cliffhanger on the Gus 
just fine. I guess I get some leaves in between the tire and the cable 
sometimes, but that happens with all rim brakes IME.

The Motolites technically cleared, if I set them up very close to the rim 
so that the arms were as vertical as possible. But it was too close for 
comfort, and I did hear some rubbing occasionally, but not sure what was 
deforming to cause it ...

Paul in AR

On Tuesday, December 13, 2022 at 12:54:46 PM UTC-6 lconley wrote:

> Shimano Deores are only 4mm (1/6") longer than Paul Motolites. If you want 
> something longer:
>
> [image: V brakes.JPG]
>
> Laing
>
> On Tuesday, December 13, 2022 at 1:45:07 PM UTC-5 brok...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Paul brings up an excellent point. If you plan on running the max tire 
>> size on your Gus, just make sure the brake you use will clear it. I had 
>> already purchased MotoLites for mine before even considering a tire size. 
>> Ended up going with 2.5” Ehlines, which turned out to clear the brakes by 
>> maybe 1cm. I doubt I’d feel comfortable with any less clearance just due to 
>> the chances of picking up mud and rocks and sticks on chunky treads. Of 
>> course, this says more about the limitations of certain brakes than it does 
>> tires. With the right brake choice, you should be able to run the 2.8s no 
>> problem… just keep it in mind.
>>
>> On Dec 13, 2022, at 12:56 PM, Paul Clifton  wrote:
>>
>> 
>>
>> Richard,
>> I run 2.8" G-ones on Cliffhangers on my Gus without any problems. I don't 
>> think the frame would take a bigger tire, and v-brakes almost certainly 
>> won't. I already had to Swap the Paul Motolites for Deores to clear the 
>> 2.8" G-ones.
>>
>> So if you want Cliffhangers on your Susie, no need to worry about the rim 
>> width being a limiting factor.
>>
>> Paul in AR
>>
>> On Tuesday, December 13, 2022 at 10:02:21 AM UTC-6 rmro...@gmail.com 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Scott. Right now thinking 2.6” Maxxis Recons. Possibly Teravail 
>>> Ehline 2.5” but I read they really are more like 2.25”. I’ve owned true 
>>> “plus” bikes before & ran 2.8”-3.0” tires on 30-45mm wide rims with 
>>> success. Not sure I want to go that big. Not a lot to choose from in rim 
>>> brake rims.
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>> On Dec 13, 2022, at 10:42 AM, 'Scott Luly' via RBW Owners Bunch <
>>> rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> 
>>>
>>> Richard, what width tire are you wanting to run on your new Gus, 2.8?
>>>
>>> I'm getting some Cliffs built for my new Gus, and I plan on running 2.6 
>>> to begin with and like having the option to run 2.8 tires. 2.6 is within 
>>> Velocity's recommended rim width. I think one could safely go outside of 
>>> "recommended" tire width and run a 2.8 on a Cliff. It's .1 per side wider. 
>>> It's not like going from a 1.9 to say a 2.8.
>>>
>>> I find a decent selection of 2.6 tires out there, 2.8 not so much. Have 
>>> you got a good 2.8 in mind? Do tell. I'd like to look into it. I wouldn't 
>>> hesitate to run 2.8 on my Cliffs, whenever they show up on my door step...
>>>
>>> Also, please share what shakes out in your BB search for your Gus.
>>>
>>> Best,
>>>
>>> Scott in about to get very cold Montana
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, December 13, 2022 at 08:29:36 AM MST, Richard Rose <
>>> rmro...@gmail.com> wrote: 
>>>
>>>
>>> 2.5"-2.6" tires seem to be at the very upper limits for the venerable 
>>> Cliffhanger. Is anyone aware of a 700c  rim brake rim that is a bit wider? 
>>> I have not found one. 
>>>
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Re: [RBW] Cliffhanger alternatives?

2022-12-13 Thread Paul Clifton

Richard,
I run 2.8" G-ones on Cliffhangers on my Gus without any problems. I don't 
think the frame would take a bigger tire, and v-brakes almost certainly 
won't. I already had to Swap the Paul Motolites for Deores to clear the 
2.8" G-ones.

So if you want Cliffhangers on your Susie, no need to worry about the rim 
width being a limiting factor.

Paul in AR

On Tuesday, December 13, 2022 at 10:02:21 AM UTC-6 rmro...@gmail.com wrote:

> Hi Scott. Right now thinking 2.6” Maxxis Recons. Possibly Teravail Ehline 
> 2.5” but I read they really are more like 2.25”. I’ve owned true “plus” 
> bikes before & ran 2.8”-3.0” tires on 30-45mm wide rims with success. Not 
> sure I want to go that big. Not a lot to choose from in rim brake rims.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Dec 13, 2022, at 10:42 AM, 'Scott Luly' via RBW Owners Bunch <
> rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>
> 
>
> Richard, what width tire are you wanting to run on your new Gus, 2.8?
>
> I'm getting some Cliffs built for my new Gus, and I plan on running 2.6 to 
> begin with and like having the option to run 2.8 tires. 2.6 is within 
> Velocity's recommended rim width. I think one could safely go outside of 
> "recommended" tire width and run a 2.8 on a Cliff. It's .1 per side wider. 
> It's not like going from a 1.9 to say a 2.8.
>
> I find a decent selection of 2.6 tires out there, 2.8 not so much. Have 
> you got a good 2.8 in mind? Do tell. I'd like to look into it. I wouldn't 
> hesitate to run 2.8 on my Cliffs, whenever they show up on my door step...
>
> Also, please share what shakes out in your BB search for your Gus.
>
> Best,
>
> Scott in about to get very cold Montana
>
> On Tuesday, December 13, 2022 at 08:29:36 AM MST, Richard Rose <
> rmro...@gmail.com> wrote: 
>
>
> 2.5"-2.6" tires seem to be at the very upper limits for the venerable 
> Cliffhanger. Is anyone aware of a 700c  rim brake rim that is a bit wider? 
> I have not found one. 
>
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[RBW] Re: Saddle height and BPH

2022-12-12 Thread Paul Clifton

Laing, I've puzzled about how to take crank length into account and this 
seems like a great idea. I'll give it a try. But at the end of the day, 
anything that is a fairly reproducible number for an individual gets the 
job done. I have a seamstress tape with a little rivet on the end that 
grabs the top of the hole where the crank bolt goes and it gets the zero 
point of the tape close enough to the center of the crank that it's never 
been a problem, or at least it keeps my measurements fairly consistent.

Paul in AR

On Monday, December 12, 2022 at 2:41:33 PM UTC-6 lconley wrote:

> I have never understood why any body is concerned "saddle height" which as 
> I understand it is the distance from the CL of the crank to the top of the 
> saddle, inline with the seat tube. It is very hard to measure from the 
> center of the crank and what if you have bikes with different crank 
> lengths?. I put the crank low and in-line with the seat tube and measure 
> from the top of the pedal axle to the top of the saddle,  inline with the 
> seat tube - takes the crank length out of the equation. I used 35" when I 
> was younger, but now use 34". It is constant from bike to bike, no worrying 
> about crank length, nor trying to line up the end of the tape with the 
> centerline of the crank at the same time as trying read the tape at the 
> saddle.
>
> Laing
> Delray Beach FL
>
> On Monday, December 12, 2022 at 12:49:07 PM UTC-5 Jay Lonner wrote:
>
>> I just took delivery of a new (non-Riv) bike and am dialing in the fit. 
>> I’m a little worried that the frame is too big for me, since I only have 
>> maybe 2” standover, which seems tight for a gravel bike.
>>
>> So I went out and measured the saddle height on my Hunq (which is a size 
>> 62). It came in at about 75cm. This gives me a solid fistful of seatpost. 
>> Then I remeasured my PBH, which is 93-94 cm depending on hard I pull. For 
>> reference, here’s the relevant page from HQ:
>>
>> https://www.rivbike.com/pages/pubic-bone-height-how-to-measure-your-pbh
>>
>> This suggests that based on my  PBH my saddle height should be closer to 
>> 83 cm – an 8cm discrepancy. Before riding in this morning I raised my 
>> saddle height to 79 cm, basically splitting the difference. It felt weird, 
>> which of course it would after so many years at 75cm. But I made it in and 
>> my feet were in full contact with the pedals without any tippytoe 
>> maneuvers. So I guess I’ve been doing it wrong this whole time? Kind of 
>> embarrassing. Even so, according to the Riv method my saddle height is 
>> still ~4cm lower than my PBH would suggest. 
>>
>> So I guess I’m wondering about alternative ways of determining saddle 
>> height somewhat objectively, and/or whether I should now be looking at 
>> other variables such as a fore-aft saddle positioning, saddle angle, and 
>> even saddle type (currently a B68, slammed back as far as it can go on a 
>> S83, with the nose pitched up ~10 degrees or so). Other relevant factors 
>> might be crank arm length (175mm), pedal height (Pedaling Innovations 
>> platform pedals), and shoes (Chuck Taylors, typically). Looking for the 
>> optimum balance of comfort, efficiency, and protecting my perineum.
>>
>> Jay Lonner
>> Bellingham, WA
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: Saddle height and BPH

2022-12-12 Thread Paul Clifton

IME, there's no objective way to get the "right" saddle height, but the Riv 
method gets me in the ballpark. I do change my saddle height +/- a cm or 
so, even on the same bike, depending on the kind of riding I'm doing 
(single track vs path/road/gravel) and how flexible I'm feeling at any 
given time. I'm not searching for the most efficient position in terms of 
power transfer, but the most comfortable in terms of my muscles, joints, 
and movements on the bike.

What the others have said (heel on pedal to almost lock out, and adjusting 
the fore/aft/tilt) is good advice, but how straight to get your knee at the 
bottom of the pedal stroke is subjective in my opinion. I'd say jack the 
seat up another 4cm and see how it feels, but don't be shy about lowering 
it back down either. I think some of the individual differences have to do 
with femur-to-fibula ratios, hip flexibility, quad-to-calf strength ratios, 
and butt size, not to mention upright vs leaned forward riding position.

Another Riv method that I like is 
1. Move the seat way up. Get it high enough that when you ride, you notice 
your hips moving from side to side, like you're trying to get a little more 
extension to reach the bottom of the pedal stroke.
2. Move the saddle down 1/2 to 1 cm at a time until you feel that hip 
rocking stop.

That's gonna get you your maximum acceptable saddle height, which I would 
consider "leaned-forward, go fast, roadie saddle height". Go down from 
there based on what feels comfortable to your knees and hips on the type of 
riding you're doing.

These are just my thoughts as I've searched for saddle height nirvana and 
found that it only really exists in the moment.

Paul in AR

On Monday, December 12, 2022 at 11:49:07 AM UTC-6 Jay Lonner wrote:

> I just took delivery of a new (non-Riv) bike and am dialing in the fit. 
> I’m a little worried that the frame is too big for me, since I only have 
> maybe 2” standover, which seems tight for a gravel bike.
>
> So I went out and measured the saddle height on my Hunq (which is a size 
> 62). It came in at about 75cm. This gives me a solid fistful of seatpost. 
> Then I remeasured my PBH, which is 93-94 cm depending on hard I pull. For 
> reference, here’s the relevant page from HQ:
>
> https://www.rivbike.com/pages/pubic-bone-height-how-to-measure-your-pbh
>
> This suggests that based on my  PBH my saddle height should be closer to 
> 83 cm – an 8cm discrepancy. Before riding in this morning I raised my 
> saddle height to 79 cm, basically splitting the difference. It felt weird, 
> which of course it would after so many years at 75cm. But I made it in and 
> my feet were in full contact with the pedals without any tippytoe 
> maneuvers. So I guess I’ve been doing it wrong this whole time? Kind of 
> embarrassing. Even so, according to the Riv method my saddle height is 
> still ~4cm lower than my PBH would suggest. 
>
> So I guess I’m wondering about alternative ways of determining saddle 
> height somewhat objectively, and/or whether I should now be looking at 
> other variables such as a fore-aft saddle positioning, saddle angle, and 
> even saddle type (currently a B68, slammed back as far as it can go on a 
> S83, with the nose pitched up ~10 degrees or so). Other relevant factors 
> might be crank arm length (175mm), pedal height (Pedaling Innovations 
> platform pedals), and shoes (Chuck Taylors, typically). Looking for the 
> optimum balance of comfort, efficiency, and protecting my perineum.
>
> Jay Lonner
> Bellingham, WA
>
>
>
>
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: New Sam Hillbornes

2022-12-08 Thread Paul Clifton

ith brown and grays.  If I was ready to sell my 
>>>>>>>> Hillborne I would order a Silver tomorrow.  But it makes no sense.  If 
>>>>>>>> someone was hot for a bright orange I could be tempted.  
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Tue, Dec 6, 2022 at 6:58 PM Eric Marth  
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Joel — I might be forgetting a color here or there but... I think 
>>>>>>>>> these new ones plus the black are my favorite paint colors for all 
>>>>>>>>> the 
>>>>>>>>> Hillbornes :) 
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I think these new colors will look especially good with some kinda 
>>>>>>>>> warm-tones saddle (tan, brown), nice big tires with gum sidewalls and 
>>>>>>>>> warm 
>>>>>>>>> bar tape and grips! Subtle, timeless warmth. Just me, that's my 
>>>>>>>>> thing, 
>>>>>>>>> maxing out the neutrals. 
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Tuesday, December 6, 2022 at 4:05:44 PM UTC-5 jrst...@gmail.com 
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Eric, I agree.  I do like the blue, have an Orange that I bought 
>>>>>>>>>> as it was the only one I could find when Riv was out, it is ok but 
>>>>>>>>>> not my 
>>>>>>>>>> favorite color. Love that new Silver.  My favorite colors are the 
>>>>>>>>>> Black 
>>>>>>>>>> (like your repainted one) and the new Silver, absolutely beautiful 
>>>>>>>>>> colors. 
>>>>>>>>>> There are probably others I have not seen but that silver has my 
>>>>>>>>>> vote. 
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Dec 6, 2022 at 12:22 PM Eric Marth  
>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I'll be interested to see how quickly these move. The Hillbornes 
>>>>>>>>>>> are such great bikes, adaptable for many purposes. I could 
>>>>>>>>>>> definitely see 
>>>>>>>>>>> the paint colors this round getting buyers excited. Nothing against 
>>>>>>>>>>> 'em but 
>>>>>>>>>>> the RBW blue, orange and harvest gold didn't do much for me. New 
>>>>>>>>>>> colors are 
>>>>>>>>>>> rel good. 
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Tuesday, December 6, 2022 at 11:18:17 AM UTC-5 
>>>>>>>>>>> edwardb...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> But that green is causing it to heat back up 
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Dec 6, 2022 at 8:09 AM Eric Daume  
>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I’m with Johnny. I think the market is cooling down. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tuesday, December 6, 2022, Johnny Alien <
>>>>>>>>>>>>> johnny@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> It will sell well but I don't think we are going to see 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> immediate sell outs on anything the way it had been happening.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tuesday, December 6, 2022 at 12:52:36 AM UTC-5 Joe Bernard 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yep. The folks who will never ride a mixte/step-thru haven't 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> had a lugged Riv on the block in quite a while and these colors 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> are 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> spectacular. Don't dodd

Re: [RBW] Clem L vs Rosco Bebe

2022-12-07 Thread Paul Clifton

It will probably go to a new home. Various permutations of various stables 
are percolating.

Paul

On Wednesday, December 7, 2022 at 12:17:07 PM UTC-6 Slin wrote:

> Thanks, Ray.
>
> Paul - so what did you decide? Did the Rosco Bebe find a new kid/family?
>
> On Tuesday, December 6, 2022 at 8:06:09 PM UTC-8 Ray Varella wrote:
>
>> Great picture Slin
>>
>>
>> Ray
>> On Monday, December 5, 2022 at 1:29:04 PM UTC-8 Slin wrote:
>>
>>> Here's mine!
>>>
>>> [image: IMG_0421.jpg]
>>>
>>> On Monday, December 5, 2022 at 1:19:45 PM UTC-8 jmlmu...@gmail.com 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Will confirmed that the Clem is in fact more Rosco Baby like and would 
>>>> make a great kid-carrier!
>>>>
>>>> Joe
>>>>
>>>> On Dec 5, 2022, at 12:41 PM, Slin  wrote:
>>>>
>>>> That's pretty cool to hear that the Rosco Bebe rides great even without 
>>>> the front load. I was looking at them back in the day too and thought I 
>>>> read that they were expected to feel weird without that load. 
>>>>
>>>> From what I understand, the Clem has become more Rosco-Bebe-like over 
>>>> the years, with a longer effective top tube, etc. I certainly love using 
>>>> mine for kid hauling :)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Wednesday, November 30, 2022 at 3:11:23 PM UTC-8 Paul Clifton wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Has anyone ridden both a Clem L and a Rosco Bebe enough to comment on 
>>>>> the differences?
>>>>>
>>>>> My bebe has long since outgrown the Yepp Mini front seat, and I'm now 
>>>>> using the Bebe to drag a copilot.
>>>>>
>>>>> Part of me feels like I should pass the Bebe on to a new parent, but 
>>>>> another part of me wants to just keep it. The ride is phenomenal, and 
>>>>> really unlike anything else I've ever ridden and I doubt I'd ever get it 
>>>>> back if I let it go.
>>>>>
>>>>> The 68 degree seat tube angle is really comfortable, and the really 
>>>>> long effective top tube puts so much bike out in front of the rider that 
>>>>> it 
>>>>> feels like it really takes the lead. It's absurdly stable on fast 
>>>>> descents 
>>>>> and carves corners without any skittishness.
>>>>>
>>>>> If I was going to sell it, I'd probably replace it with a Clem as my 
>>>>> kid hauling townie, since I'd like to keep my Gus set up for rowdy single 
>>>>> track fun.
>>>>>
>>>>> So I'm curious if anyone can actually compare the two.
>>>>>
>>>>> Paul in AR
>>>>>
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[RBW] Re: New Sam Hillbornes

2022-12-05 Thread Paul Clifton

I'm not looking to buy a Sam, but I just glanced at the size chart on 
Instagram, and, wow, the sizing has changed dramatically over the years. My 
PBH is 82cm. That puts me on a 51cm Sam for this current batch. When I test 
rode one of the originals with caliper brakes, it was a 56cm I believe, and 
it fit perfectly. I haven't kept up with the geometry changes, but I'd 
really like to see what it's like to ride a 51cm frame and be at the top 
end of a size range for once. I bet the reach would be sublime.

Paul in AR

On Monday, December 5, 2022 at 1:47:53 PM UTC-6 Houston Wilson wrote:

> Hi Bill,
>
> I'd love the catalog!! 
> Houston Wilson
> Los Angeles, CA
>
> On Friday, December 2, 2022 at 8:16:50 AM UTC-8 Bill Lindsay wrote:
>
>> For the voracious and anxious waiters of shipping containers:  I've 
>> stumbled upon a Rivendell Sam Hillborne catalog.  It's from one of the 
>> sidepull brake variants of the Sam Hillborne.  If anybody wants it, let me 
>> know and I can mail it to whomever.  
>>
>> Bill Lindsay
>> El Cerrito, CA
>>
>> On Thursday, December 1, 2022 at 7:04:00 AM UTC-8 jak...@me.com wrote:
>>
>>> Anxiously awaiting the new Sams to land on our shores and am obsessing 
>>> over the potential build.  Perusing these pages with all of your 
>>> experiences have really helped.  I thought the lime olive was for me until 
>>> I saw the early photos of the HiHo Silver.  Smitten.
>>>
>>> Anyone going in on these?  I feel like I am on baby watch!
>>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: Stem Length and Handlebar Width

2022-12-05 Thread Paul Clifton

Personally, yes, I would expect to want a shorter stem with wider bars. I 
would probably try it with the existing stem, but I'd anticipate going 
shorter.

Which also makes me realize that, since I'm pretty sensitive to the impact 
of stem length on handling, there's probably some setups where my optimum 
bar width, doesn't work with my optimum stem length.

Paul in AR

On Monday, December 5, 2022 at 1:07:45 PM UTC-6 bjmi...@gmail.com wrote:

> Hey Everyone!
> In theory, if one was to switch to wider handlebars, I would assume the 
> stem length would have to get shorter to keep the reach about the 
> same...right? 
>
> I have 48cm noodle bars on my Sam with a 9cm tallux. The reach is pretty 
> good...maybe a little on the stretchy side. If I go to a 54cm noodle bar, 
> I'm thinking it'd be necessary to get a shorter stem. Right? 
>
> Thanks for your thoughts!
> Ben in Omaha 
>
>
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[RBW] WTB - Maybe ... - Clem L - Medium

2022-12-03 Thread Paul Clifton

I'm curious if anyone has a medium Clem L they'd like to sell. I'd prefer 
frame/fork, but I'd consider a complete or partial build.

If you have one, please send me a PM with details and your price.

I'm contemplating passing my Rosco Bebe on to another family, but need a 
replacement before I do. But hey, my daughter might be pedaling her own 
bike in the next couple weeks, so I may not even need a townie for much 
longer, so who knows how this'll all shake out.

Thanks,
Paul in AR


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Re: [RBW] Re: Clem L vs Rosco Bebe

2022-12-02 Thread Paul Clifton

Hey Joe, I got it and will follow up off list. Hate to say it, but I'm also 
not surprised: you're not the only one waiting on a reply :)

I think Riv should do another round of these :) I wonder if lead times and 
factory capacity are back to where they can do a special order if 10 or 20 
people commit to buy them.

On Friday, December 2, 2022 at 10:29:17 AM UTC-6 jmlmu...@gmail.com wrote:

> Hey Paul,
>
> I sent you an email but not sure if you got it. I’m a new a parent and 
> while I’ve got other Rivs that I plan to use with a kid seat, I’ve 
> definitely been curious to experience the Bebe with my baby! If you decide 
> to pass it to a new parents, I’d love to chat with you about it.
>
> Thanks,
> Joe
> .
>

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[RBW] Re: Clem L vs Rosco Bebe

2022-12-02 Thread Paul Clifton

I'm with you on that Hoch. I'm the third owner of a semi-custom Boulder All 
Road 650b. Aside from being a particularly special bike, it happens to fit 
like no other bike I've ever ridden. I've considered selling it several 
times, because I don't ride it much, and I've basically stopped riding drop 
bars anyway, but I know that if I'm going to own a drop bar road bike, it's 
the only one that will ever do, so it's staying, and I get it out 6 or 10 
times a year for a 30 mile gravel ride and remember why I have it and how 
much fun a sporty bike that really fits is.

It's actually a really similar situation to the Bebe bike. It's a really 
specialized bike for a specific purpose that I don't actually take part in 
(Brevets or Babies). So I'm not in a rush to replace it. Ideally I could 
send it out on loan locally to parents I know, but I don't have that kind 
of network these days.

Paul

On Friday, December 2, 2022 at 9:35:49 AM UTC-6 Hoch in ut wrote:

> Ah, got it. Well, I’m sure you’ll find the Clem rides great. I had one for 
> a bit and I liked it. 
>
> That said, I had a bike years ago (Surly). Fit was amazing and I felt like 
> I could pedal forever on it. I foolishly decided to sell it for another 
> bike. I couldn’t get it to fit right so I bought another. But despite using 
> the exact same components, I still couldn’t get it to fit like the 
> original. Lesson learned, if you have a bike that rides and fits well, hold 
> on to it.  
>
> On Friday, December 2, 2022 at 8:09:03 AM UTC-7 Paul Clifton wrote:
>
>> Hey Hoch,
>> The fork is a Clem fork but I'm pretty sure the head tube angle is 
>> different, part of the way they made the effective top tube so long and 
>> gave it such good balance with a 30 lb load behind the handle bars.
>>
>> I don't really want to get rid of it or get a new bike, but I do want 
>> another parent and kid to have the wonderful experience my daughter and I 
>> had for the couple years she fit the Yepp seat, so if there's a 
>> more-or-less drop-in replacement out there, I want to know about it.
>>
>> Paul
>>
>> On Friday, December 2, 2022 at 8:59:34 AM UTC-6 Hoch in ut wrote:
>>
>>> I believe the Rosco uses Clem forks, so I’m assuming the front end is 
>>> similar, if not the same. Rivendell told me that they also use the same 
>>> front end on the Gus, Susie, Atlantis so they should all ride very similar. 
>>>
>>> Unless you just want a new bike to get a new bike (nothing wrong with 
>>> that), I’d just keep the Rosco. It’s a very unique and rare bike. 
>>>
>>> On Friday, December 2, 2022 at 7:05:27 AM UTC-7 Paul Clifton wrote:
>>>
>>>> Thanks for the feedback Richard and Laing. I certain I'd enjoy a Clem, 
>>>> but I guess I'll never know how unique the Bebe bike is until I can ride 
>>>> them both back to back. There's still part of me that wants to get it to 
>>>> another new parent.
>>>>
>>>> Laing, please share you thoughts when you get the Bebe on the road. I 
>>>> can tell you it's just as fun without a kid on the front as it is with 
>>>> one. 
>>>> The extra load just adds to the stability.
>>>>
>>>> Paul
>>>>
>>>> On Wednesday, November 30, 2022 at 6:29:39 PM UTC-6 lconley wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I own both, but I have never completed the Bebe build [everything done 
>>>>> but the brakes and chain-line (S-A 3 speed)], so not much help yet. I 
>>>>> bought the Bebe because of the long effective top tube. I have short legs 
>>>>> and a long torso and it seemed like it might be the ideal step through 
>>>>> for 
>>>>> bars with a lot of backsweep. I also have a Betty Foy, Rosco Bubbe Medium 
>>>>> Mountain Mixte and the one and only Keven's Bike true mixte. Some day I 
>>>>> may 
>>>>> not be able to swing my leg over and I wanted to cover all the options on 
>>>>> Rivendell step-thrus. I never intended for the Bebe to be a baby bike, 
>>>>> it's 
>>>>> my long torso bike.
>>>>>
>>>>> Laing
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wednesday, November 30, 2022 at 6:11:23 PM UTC-5 Paul Clifton wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Has anyone ridden both a Clem L and a Rosco Bebe enough to comment on 
>>>>>> the differences?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> My bebe has long since outgrown the Yepp Mini front seat, and I'm now 
>>>>>> using the Bebe to drag a copilot.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Part of me

[RBW] Re: Clem L vs Rosco Bebe

2022-12-02 Thread Paul Clifton

Hey Hoch,
The fork is a Clem fork but I'm pretty sure the head tube angle is 
different, part of the way they made the effective top tube so long and 
gave it such good balance with a 30 lb load behind the handle bars.

I don't really want to get rid of it or get a new bike, but I do want 
another parent and kid to have the wonderful experience my daughter and I 
had for the couple years she fit the Yepp seat, so if there's a 
more-or-less drop-in replacement out there, I want to know about it.

Paul

On Friday, December 2, 2022 at 8:59:34 AM UTC-6 Hoch in ut wrote:

> I believe the Rosco uses Clem forks, so I’m assuming the front end is 
> similar, if not the same. Rivendell told me that they also use the same 
> front end on the Gus, Susie, Atlantis so they should all ride very similar. 
>
> Unless you just want a new bike to get a new bike (nothing wrong with 
> that), I’d just keep the Rosco. It’s a very unique and rare bike. 
>
> On Friday, December 2, 2022 at 7:05:27 AM UTC-7 Paul Clifton wrote:
>
>> Thanks for the feedback Richard and Laing. I certain I'd enjoy a Clem, 
>> but I guess I'll never know how unique the Bebe bike is until I can ride 
>> them both back to back. There's still part of me that wants to get it to 
>> another new parent.
>>
>> Laing, please share you thoughts when you get the Bebe on the road. I can 
>> tell you it's just as fun without a kid on the front as it is with one. The 
>> extra load just adds to the stability.
>>
>> Paul
>>
>> On Wednesday, November 30, 2022 at 6:29:39 PM UTC-6 lconley wrote:
>>
>>> I own both, but I have never completed the Bebe build [everything done 
>>> but the brakes and chain-line (S-A 3 speed)], so not much help yet. I 
>>> bought the Bebe because of the long effective top tube. I have short legs 
>>> and a long torso and it seemed like it might be the ideal step through for 
>>> bars with a lot of backsweep. I also have a Betty Foy, Rosco Bubbe Medium 
>>> Mountain Mixte and the one and only Keven's Bike true mixte. Some day I may 
>>> not be able to swing my leg over and I wanted to cover all the options on 
>>> Rivendell step-thrus. I never intended for the Bebe to be a baby bike, it's 
>>> my long torso bike.
>>>
>>> Laing
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, November 30, 2022 at 6:11:23 PM UTC-5 Paul Clifton wrote:
>>>
>>>> Has anyone ridden both a Clem L and a Rosco Bebe enough to comment on 
>>>> the differences?
>>>>
>>>> My bebe has long since outgrown the Yepp Mini front seat, and I'm now 
>>>> using the Bebe to drag a copilot.
>>>>
>>>> Part of me feels like I should pass the Bebe on to a new parent, but 
>>>> another part of me wants to just keep it. The ride is phenomenal, and 
>>>> really unlike anything else I've ever ridden and I doubt I'd ever get it 
>>>> back if I let it go.
>>>>
>>>> The 68 degree seat tube angle is really comfortable, and the really 
>>>> long effective top tube puts so much bike out in front of the rider that 
>>>> it 
>>>> feels like it really takes the lead. It's absurdly stable on fast descents 
>>>> and carves corners without any skittishness.
>>>>
>>>> If I was going to sell it, I'd probably replace it with a Clem as my 
>>>> kid hauling townie, since I'd like to keep my Gus set up for rowdy single 
>>>> track fun.
>>>>
>>>> So I'm curious if anyone can actually compare the two.
>>>>
>>>> Paul in AR
>>>>
>>>

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[RBW] Re: Clem L vs Rosco Bebe

2022-12-02 Thread Paul Clifton

Thanks for the feedback Richard and Laing. I certain I'd enjoy a Clem, but 
I guess I'll never know how unique the Bebe bike is until I can ride them 
both back to back. There's still part of me that wants to get it to another 
new parent.

Laing, please share you thoughts when you get the Bebe on the road. I can 
tell you it's just as fun without a kid on the front as it is with one. The 
extra load just adds to the stability.

Paul

On Wednesday, November 30, 2022 at 6:29:39 PM UTC-6 lconley wrote:

> I own both, but I have never completed the Bebe build [everything done but 
> the brakes and chain-line (S-A 3 speed)], so not much help yet. I bought 
> the Bebe because of the long effective top tube. I have short legs and a 
> long torso and it seemed like it might be the ideal step through for bars 
> with a lot of backsweep. I also have a Betty Foy, Rosco Bubbe Medium 
> Mountain Mixte and the one and only Keven's Bike true mixte. Some day I may 
> not be able to swing my leg over and I wanted to cover all the options on 
> Rivendell step-thrus. I never intended for the Bebe to be a baby bike, it's 
> my long torso bike.
>
> Laing
>
> On Wednesday, November 30, 2022 at 6:11:23 PM UTC-5 Paul Clifton wrote:
>
>> Has anyone ridden both a Clem L and a Rosco Bebe enough to comment on the 
>> differences?
>>
>> My bebe has long since outgrown the Yepp Mini front seat, and I'm now 
>> using the Bebe to drag a copilot.
>>
>> Part of me feels like I should pass the Bebe on to a new parent, but 
>> another part of me wants to just keep it. The ride is phenomenal, and 
>> really unlike anything else I've ever ridden and I doubt I'd ever get it 
>> back if I let it go.
>>
>> The 68 degree seat tube angle is really comfortable, and the really long 
>> effective top tube puts so much bike out in front of the rider that it 
>> feels like it really takes the lead. It's absurdly stable on fast descents 
>> and carves corners without any skittishness.
>>
>> If I was going to sell it, I'd probably replace it with a Clem as my kid 
>> hauling townie, since I'd like to keep my Gus set up for rowdy single track 
>> fun.
>>
>> So I'm curious if anyone can actually compare the two.
>>
>> Paul in AR
>>
>

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[RBW] Re: Blatant shoutout for Road Runner Bags

2022-12-01 Thread Paul Clifton

Nice Joe! I've had my eyes on one of their Jammer bags for a while. I need 
to move my cargo up front now that I'm riding with a copilot attached to my 
seat tube. 

It's worth mentioning that they make bags for Velo Orange too!

Paul in Arr

On Thursday, December 1, 2022 at 3:59:39 PM UTC-6 Joe Bernard wrote:

> I've bought and sold a few of these and really like them a lot..made in 
> Los Angeles, CA. USA! 
>
> This my new Burrito Bag (the small one) in turmeric (looks gold) and pink 
> on my dark blue Bike Friday. I think it would look great on a Mermaid 
> Platypus, Appaloosa or Gus. Road Runner Bags, they're good! 
>
> Joe Bernard 
>

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[RBW] Re: Cockpit Quandaries - Friction bar ends for a new rider

2022-11-30 Thread Paul Clifton

Thanks Pam. I also think friction bar end shifters on Albatross bars is the 
most pleasurable way to shift. It just feels right to me. I'll take them 
with me and let her check them out.

If this bike works out, I'd love to send her up to Charlotte for one of 
your classes. She's in Atlanta, so not as close to Charlotte as Augusta, 
but it's still an easy drive. There are a few organizations that do similar 
classes in Atlanta, but I'd have to look them up again, and they don't 
happen very regularly. But she is in a good spot to bike commute a couple 
days a week, when the weather is nice and her butt gets used to a saddle. 
It would probably be 15 miles round trip, but 13 of that would be 
completely separated rail trail (the Beltline (if you've heard of it) - and 
not the busy part, but the pretty and still undeveloped part). I'd be 
pretty envious of anyone taking that cruise every day. She's said she'd 
like to do it, and I'll do what I can to facilitate.

Paul

On Tuesday, November 29, 2022 at 10:06:16 PM UTC-6 Pam Bikes wrote:

> Friction and albatross bars are great.  I didn't know how to use them when 
> I got them but it's easy.  Takes 5 minutes to learn.  Not sure where she 
> lives in GA but I'm in NC and would be glad to help.  I'm in Charlotte, NC 
> which is on the border of SC.  I'm from Augusta, GA which is only 2 1/2 hrs 
> away.  I have a 47 Betty Foy so I have the same issue.  This is the only 
> bike that fits me.  Let me know if I can help.
>
> On Tuesday, November 29, 2022 at 1:04:09 PM UTC-5 Paul Clifton wrote:
>
>> :) 
>> Are y'all really asking me to defend why I'm upgrading a 30 year old bike 
>> for a very good friend of mine? Sheesh.
>>
>> Of course I've gotten her input. Here's what she's said: 
>>
>>- "I want a bike like [your wife's] bike, with those handlebars." - 
>>45 Clem L with Boscos (also a bit too big...)
>>- "No way, I'm not spending that much money on a bike, and you better 
>>not spend that much on a bike for me either." - We've all been there, and 
>> I 
>>won't, especially since Riv doesn't make a bike small enough for her. 
>> I'll 
>>split the cost of a custom with her if she catches the bug and nothing 
>> else 
>>will do. :)
>>- "My husband got me another bike from someone he works with, but I 
>>just don't like the way it feels." - It's a 700c wheel bike with the seat 
>>all the way down and the adjustable angle stem all the way up to get the 
>>flat bars close enough for her to reach 'em so she's bent over riding it 
>>like it has ape hangers on it. This has happened like 5 times.
>>- "I mean, I've never ridden a bike that fits, so I have no idea what 
>>kind of shifters I'll like. I just want a bike that's not a kids bike, 
>> and 
>>that fits, so that I can put my foot on the ground when I stop." - I know 
>>that that's not a criteria for what "fits", but it'll make her feel 
>> better 
>>riding it, and she can raise the seat when she's ready.
>>
>> I'd love to have gotten her to ride it first, but I live in Arkansas and 
>> she lives in Georgia. I did say that she's ridden my wife's 45cm Clem L, 
>> and it was a smidge too big. I also mentioned that I know her PBH, so I 
>> have a good idea of her saddle height, and this bike accommodates that with 
>> some room to go shorter, so she can get it low enough to put a foot on the 
>> ground. Finding a used (inexpensive) bike that's smaller than a 45 Clem L 
>> and that "isn't a kids bike" is not easy, so when I found one, I asked her 
>> if she liked the color, then I measured it when I checked it out, then I 
>> bought it (and I didn't pay COVID prices on a vintage MTB either, even 
>> though the asking price was obscene). 
>>
>> The seat height will work. She'll have about a fistful of seatpost 
>> showing! If the reach is too short, I'll put on a longer stem. But I'm more 
>> concerned that even with Albas, I'll need to find a shorter stem and it'll 
>> impact the handling, so I may have to buy some Boscos, but I'm at least 
>> holding off on that expense.
>>
>> The derailers may be fine. I'll probably give them a try with new 
>> shifters just to see, but they are absurdly heavy and have some quirks that 
>> new derailers have improved on. They're basically Tourney level, which, 
>> even new, is lowest usable group in my opinion. And I have an new Altus in 
>> my bin that's been waiting for a bike, so why not!
>>
>> And, come on, rapid fire shifters from the early 90s feel like garbage 
>> compared to almost any other shifter ever

[RBW] Clem L vs Rosco Bebe

2022-11-30 Thread Paul Clifton

Has anyone ridden both a Clem L and a Rosco Bebe enough to comment on the 
differences?

My bebe has long since outgrown the Yepp Mini front seat, and I'm now using 
the Bebe to drag a copilot.

Part of me feels like I should pass the Bebe on to a new parent, but 
another part of me wants to just keep it. The ride is phenomenal, and 
really unlike anything else I've ever ridden and I doubt I'd ever get it 
back if I let it go.

The 68 degree seat tube angle is really comfortable, and the really long 
effective top tube puts so much bike out in front of the rider that it 
feels like it really takes the lead. It's absurdly stable on fast descents 
and carves corners without any skittishness.

If I was going to sell it, I'd probably replace it with a Clem as my kid 
hauling townie, since I'd like to keep my Gus set up for rowdy single track 
fun.

So I'm curious if anyone can actually compare the two.

Paul in AR

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[RBW] Re: Your Favorite V-Brake Pads?!

2022-11-29 Thread Paul Clifton

I like to dual compound pads from Kool Stop. The salmon pads squeal too 
much. The dual compound stop fantastically and set up easily and I like 
having the pads that slide into the holder.

www.koolstop.com/english/v_type2.html

http://www.koolstop.com/english/v_type2holder.html

I've tried a couple types of Jagwire and a couple types of Shimano and the 
plain Salmon kool stops and the dual compound v type 2 are leaps and bounds 
better than any other ones.

Paul in AR

On Tuesday, November 29, 2022 at 7:56:57 PM UTC-6 Scott wrote:

> Hey, Bunch:
>
> What v-brake pads are you running, and what are your thoughts about their 
> function?
>
> I've been running Shimano XTR pads and find they have a "hard" feel to 
> them.
>
> Happy holidays,
>
> Scott in Montana
>

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[RBW] Re: Book recommendations for learning how to build up a bike

2022-11-29 Thread Paul Clifton

My experience with bike mechanic books is that they all say the same stuff, 
but in different ways, with different styles of illustrations or 
photographs, and in varying degrees of detail. It might be worth a trip to 
the library to flip through a few of them and see what jives with your 
experience and preferences.

The one I used as a kid was called something like "How to fix your bicycle" 
and it just confused me (and my dad who is a competent mechanic). So 
definitely skim anything you can before you buy it.

The content I would really want in a book is tips and tricks, like how to 
hold everything just right to get the cable tension for my brakes perfect 
and what parts are compatible with other parts (like using a 9 speed chain 
on 8 speed cassettes, or using Shimano road shifters with mountain 
derailers). I don't know of a book that has that stuff, but I bet there is 
one out there that does.

Paul in AR

On Monday, November 28, 2022 at 9:08:04 AM UTC-6 Stephanie A. wrote:

> As I continue to change things on my current bike, I've realize that what 
> I really want is a book that helps me understand building up and 
> maintaining a bike. YouTube videos and helpful websites are great. I'm so 
> thankful that they exist. But my brain craves a single, cohesively written 
> text I can easily read through and turn to when I'm thinking about changing 
> shifters, selecting different drivetrain parts, understanding geometry, 
> taking apart bikes, wiring, and making adjustments. I really only see 
> myself dealing with non-fixie commuters and touring bikes.
>
> I found a book online called *How to Build a Bike (in a Weekend)* by Alan 
> Anderson with illustrations by Lee John Phillips. Has anyone used this? 
> Does anyone have other suggestions?
>
>

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[RBW] Re: Cockpit Quandaries - Friction bar ends for a new rider

2022-11-29 Thread Paul Clifton

hankfully the fork is fine.

My friend wants a bike! She's talks about it frequently. But finding a bike
for her has been a years long process for lots of reasons. She's bought new
bikes from shops. The shop guy told her it fit, but the seat was too high,
and the reach was too long. It had 700c wheels, and the handling was
twitchy, and she wasn't comfortable or confident. So to me, it's clear it
didn't fit and was poorly designed in general. She's ridden a bunch of
hand-me-down bikes from "small" people. For the most part she can barely
get the seat low enough to reach the pedals. They have all had 700c
wheels, and on small frames, that makes the handling really twitchy, which
isn't good, especially for an inexperienced and timid rider. Everyone on
this list probably knows that already: to paraphrase Grant - big wheels +
small frames = bad combo.

I've only ever met one other adult as small as her. That person just rode a
BMX bike. This is the smallest bike I've seen with 26" wheels. I know the
saddle height will work, and the handling should be much better than
everything else she's ridden, except for my wife's Clem, which costs 4x as
much and wouldn't fit. If the handling is still bad, she'll have to find a
24" wheel bike. Since I think it will fit, I'm doing everything else I can
to improve the riding experience so that she doesn't think, "Well, I have a
bike that fits, but it isn't fun to ride. I must just not like riding
bikes." Hence the question about shifters and what I can get away with for
an inexperienced and timid rider.

I'll take a couple saddles and stems with me when I give it to her. And
I'll probably even take a couple options for shifters. So, if it fits,
she'll be able to finally form an educated opinion about what she does and
doesn't like. Maybe I'll eve take the set of black Loscos I have, and let
her try them, but they'd go out on indefinite loan only. I'm attached to
them, even though they don't work for me.

And if it doesn't fit, which given her track record is a real possibility,
the bike will be in Atlanta where it will sell for more than I have in it,
or I'll let it go for free to someone it does.

So thanks for the opinions on shifters. It's nice to see it's a pretty even
split, which has encouraged me to give her the option, but I'll do it in
person when she and I take it out for a ride together. This is gonna be a
great holiday.

Cheers,
Paul

PS If anyone wants this old stuff I've taken off (plastic brake levers,
canti brakes, 7 speed shifters, cassette, chain, and probably the rear
derailer and 7 speed hub and or wheel) keep an eye out on the list. I MIGHT
offer it free for shipping when this is all said and done. Maybe there's a
frame out there for them.

On Tuesday, November 29, 2022 at 3:26:57 AM UTC-6 Garth wrote:

> Did I miss the part where the friend actually rode the Hardrock as it is
> to see how it felt in fit and function ? It seems that without some input
> from her, you'd be trying to make her into something she is not.

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