Re: [RBW] Re: Crash Stories

[Alan Pickett]

Joe's mention of his Stingray reminded me of this: in 1977 I was living in 
Charleston WV and had a yellow Schwinn Stingray. Black banana seat and 
those high, high "monkey bars". Behind our house, there was a church, and 
we would often ride our bikes in the parking lot, bunny hopping, and 
jumping off the edge of the asphalt, which dropped sharply about 2.5-3ft as 
it transitioned into an undeveloped, weedy and rock-strewn lot. I don't 
know what inspired me, but I got it in my head that if secured my mom's 
large umbrella to the very back of the seat (in addition to the seat post, 
there was a long, vertical arc of cheap metal that attached at the rear 
drop-outs and rose up to stabilize the seat), I might perhaps sail loftily 
over the drop-off, momentarily weightless, and alight gracefully to the 
weed-lot below. Needless to say, my vision, as well as my bike and I, came 
crashing down, as the umbrella only served to produce enough drag to keep 
my rear-end up, briefly holding my bike in a nose-dive position before I 
was severely re-introduced to terra-firma. Hey, at least I had a dream!

On Sunday, March 22, 2020 at 11:40:51 AM UTC-4, Tirebiter ATX wrote:
>
> Video was hilarious.  Thanks.
>
> On Sun, Mar 22, 2020 at 10:36 AM Leah Peterson  > wrote:
>
>> I have loved this thread; it really has been so instructive and also - 
>> please don’t take offense - entertaining. 
>>
>> I now have a name for those yellow things in the road (“road turtles”) 
>> and know that I should never get near them in the rain. I will never, ever 
>> race my best friend lest she turn her bike in front of me and send me 
>> flying. I will certainly never attempt a wheelie. 
>>
>> In all seriousness, these stories as well as the COVID pandemic have made 
>> me more careful - now is not a good time to need a hospital. I usually ride 
>> helmet-free but I’ve been wearing one more often just as an extra layer of 
>> safety. Helmets come with certain annoyances, particularly for women, and 
>> because I can’t ever just be serious, I catalogued it in the video below. 
>>
>> I don’t have a crash story to contribute, but what I have I give to you. 
>> Also, don’t we just need to laugh these days? 
>>
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>> On Mar 21, 2020, at 8:46 AM, SurlyProf > 
>> wrote:
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>> 
>> Reading about all of these injuries and browsing X-rays makes me realize 
>> how lucky I've been in my 45-50 years of riding a bike.  In all that time, 
>> I've only been in 3 crashes (all, of course, involving cars with clueless 
>> drivers). 
>>
>> In the '80's, I bought my first really nice "Italian" bike at a sidewalk 
>> sale in Huntington Beach (1/2 price!).  I'd been out of college for a year 
>> or so and hadn't owned a bike since my last one was stolen freshman year.  
>> It was an '86 Bertoni Corsa Mondiale in metallic lavender (in Italian they 
>> called it, "God-awful purple").  Loved that bike but thought it might have 
>> been cursed.  Within a month or two I had two crashes in the same weekend!  
>> The first happened as I was riding down in the Newport/Balboa area.  I was 
>> probably cruising at 25+ mph when I was passed by a van.  The van barely 
>> went another city block when it took a right turn in front of me.  I hit 
>> the brakes and slid the bike sideways like I was doing a hockey stop.  I 
>> must have hit the side of that van at 10 mph.  The whole incident seemed to 
>> happen in slow motion.  I even remember the fear in the elderly woman's 
>> face as I slammed into the van right next to her.  Looked like a couple 
>> driving their in-laws around the area.  I'm sure this incident made an 
>> impression as I did given the huge Wile E. Coyote-shaped dent I put in 
>> their side.  They slowed and saw that I was still on the bike and, I guess, 
>> assumed I was OK and drove off.  I quickly unclipped and put a foot down 
>> and then heard the lunchtime host at the restaurant on the corner where it 
>> happen say (in a fantastic Jeff Spicolli voice), "Du-u-u-de... I can't 
>> believe you stayed on the bike!"
>>
>> The next day I went out for an easy ride to loosen up my severely bruised 
>> hip and shoulder and was right-hooked by a pick up truck.  That time, I was 
>> not so lucky.  I flew over the handlebars onto the pavement as I heard the 
>> squealing of tires as they tore off.  My rear wheel was completely taco-ed 
>> which I didn't bother repairing for at least a month since I thought the 

[RBW] Re: Anyone in the DMV have a 51 or 55 Hillborne I could test ride?

[Alan Pickett]

Hey Guys - thanks for the wise words. I may have been the victim of a brief 
consumerist "the grass is always greener" springtime virus of some sort, 
and I think you have calmed my fever. I'm gonna lower the seat a smidge and 
change up the cockpit - it is such a fine bike - and see if that helps 
knock the little gremlin sitting on my shoulder who is whispering, "buy, 
buy!" into my gullible ears. Hmm, but there are all those pretty blue 
backabike and saddlesack bags and such on the website - maybe I'll just 
take a peek...

Thanks again, and cheers,
Al

On Wednesday, May 2, 2018 at 8:24:47 AM UTC-4, Alan Pickett wrote:
>
> Howdy folks - 
>
>
> I have a 2011-12 vintage 56 Hillborne that I've always felt was a little 
> to big for me, and I find I'm often disincentivized to ride it, which is 
> sad. I'd love to see if I could spin around the block on a 55 or 51 just to 
> get a feel. Does anyone have a Hillborne they would be will to allow a 
> stranger to check out for a test ride? You could hold my ID, Bike, or dog 
> as collateral while I do so! I'm bummed I didn't get back out to Gravel and 
> Grind to do this before the closed up shop. Here's a pic of current 
> configuration:
>
>
> Hope the RBWOB is doing well this morning
>
>
>
> <https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-UxryW5lv3sw/Wumt_9k0QKI/BWE/Uz-o3wdVX0EdrD67A3mv0uXeizwaaK41ACLcBGAs/s1600/IMG_0868.JPG>
>
>
>
>

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[RBW] Anyone in the DMV have a 51 or 55 Hillborne I could test ride?

[Alan Pickett]

Howdy folks - 


I have a 2011-12 vintage 56 Hillborne that I've always felt was a little to 
big for me, and I find I'm often disincentivized to ride it, which is sad. 
I'd love to see if I could spin around the block on a 55 or 51 just to get 
a feel. Does anyone have a Hillborne they would be will to allow a stranger 
to check out for a test ride? You could hold my ID, Bike, or dog as 
collateral while I do so! I'm bummed I didn't get back out to Gravel and 
Grind to do this before the closed up shop. Here's a pic of current 
configuration:


Hope the RBWOB is doing well this morning






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[RBW] Re: Newbaums on Sam Hillborne

[Alan Pickett]

Those look super-cushy, super-comfy. The orange clearly signifies you as 
someone who says "Yes!" to life. I like, and well done!  

On Monday, April 2, 2018 at 11:05:04 PM UTC-4, Paul Choi wrote:
>
> Decided to try orange Newbaums over my silicone grips. I put three coats 
> of clear shellac and then twine to keep it from unraveling. I like the way 
> it turned out. The clear shellac brings out a deeper color.

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[RBW] Re: The diet

[Alan Pickett]

Just want to say thanks to all for your speedy and thoughtful replies. I 
will suck in all the collective input and attempt to put it to good use. 
It's so nice having such a great bunch of folks to check in with. Just ride!

Al

On Wednesday, June 1, 2016 at 9:33:04 AM UTC-4, Alan Pickett wrote:
>
> Hey there - 
>
> I wrapping my head around giving Grants diet a try, and am wondering if 
> those of you have played around with this can answer a couple of questions:
>
> 1. Has anyone noticed a change in mood, mentation, or energy level that 
> appears to be associated with being in ketosis? I get fatigue and mental 
> fogginess daily which i suspect may in part be due to blood sugar spikes.
>
> 2. When starting, can I literally just begin with one of Grants 24 hour 
> carbo fasts, load up on the butter and lard, and forward march, or would 
> you all advise a "softer" transition, say by ceasing sugary snacks for a 
> week or so, then corn, then spuds, then grains, over a longer time period? 
> Just wondering if I can just turn this thing on overnight. I assume with a 
> little bit of transitional suffering?
>
> I know this is a topic oft discussed, so feel free simply to point me to 
> some good discussion threads or resources if this has already been 
> exhausted.
>
> Hope everyone is well this morning,
> Alan
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[RBW] The diet

[Alan Pickett]

Hey there - 

I wrapping my head around giving Grants diet a try, and am wondering if 
those of you have played around with this can answer a couple of questions:

1. Has anyone noticed a change in mood, mentation, or energy level that 
appears to be associated with being in ketosis? I get fatigue and mental 
fogginess daily which i suspect may in part be due to blood sugar spikes.

2. When starting, can I literally just begin with one of Grants 24 hour 
carbo fasts, load up on the butter and lard, and forward march, or would 
you all advise a "softer" transition, say by ceasing sugary snacks for a 
week or so, then corn, then spuds, then grains, over a longer time period? 
Just wondering if I can just turn this thing on overnight. I assume with a 
little bit of transitional suffering?

I know this is a topic oft discussed, so feel free simply to point me to 
some good discussion threads or resources if this has already been 
exhausted.

Hope everyone is well this morning,
Alan

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[RBW] Gravel and Grind

[Alan Pickett]

No pics, but i stopped by Gravel and Grind 
 in Frederick MD over the long weekend, 
and we did a beautiful owner-recommended ride through town and up one of 
the local "mountains" featuring a bit of gravel and lovely scenery. The 
shop looks great - we got coffee and almond butter toast while browsing, 
and it is a beautifully curated shop, featuring many familiar items from 
the Riv catalog, but also many thoughtfully sourced bike related items. 
There is a glorious Atlantis with a sparkly red paint job hanging up, plus 
four Appaloosas in different sizes ready for test rides. James was kind 
enough to print out a cue sheet for the ride, and is a fine host.

If you're local to the area, get your self out there!

Alan

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[RBW] Re: Maryland area supported Century rides and also unsupported Brevets this spring, summer and fall 2016.

[Alan Pickett]

Hey - BIG thanks for posting this. 

We usually use a fall century as a little motivation to get out and enjoy 
some long rides in the summer, and this comes right on time. 

I'm also looking forward to visiting Gravel and Grind to get more info on 
the owner's personal favorite unpaved rides in the Frederick area. 

Last year we used the Amish Country Bike Ride as our carrot, and frankly, I 
found it a bit boring - super flat and mind numbing. I think I may reach a 
point - just personally - of diminishing returns with rides over 60-70 
miles, whereby the whole enterprise becomes more of a grind than a 
pleasure. I have never done any touring, but I've been thinking about 
trying a long weekend ride from Bethesda to, say, Harper's Ferry, with a 
full tilt "just ride" philosophy - kick back, enjoy the effort when it is 
called for, but no "heroic" grasp at bagging a 100 miles in one swoop!

I'll check these sites out now. Thanks again!
Alan in Silver Spring.

On Sunday, April 24, 2016 at 11:28:35 PM UTC-4, Lungimsam wrote:
>
> Just in case anyone is looking for some in our area.
>
> Patuxent River Ride June 11 (metric) http://www.ohbike.org/
>
> Tour dem Parks, Hon June 12 (only 30 some miles thru Baltimore parks and 
> streets, but thought I'd include it here) https://tourdemparks.org/
>
> Bay to Bay Century June 26 (English) 
> https://www.active.com/betterton-md/cycling/races/bay-to-bay-ride-2016
>
> Firefighter 50 Ride - 7/24 (English) http://www.firefighter50.com/
>
> Lancaster Bike Club Covered Bridges 100k 8/21 (metric) 
> http://franklincountycyclists.org/non-fcc-events/2016/8/21/lancaster-covered-bridge-metric-century
>
> Indian Head 100 Sept. 5 (English) http://www.ohbike.org/
>
> Anne Arundel Lifeline Century 100 - 10/16 (English) 
> https://bikeaaa.org/lifeline-100/
>
> Seagull Century http://www.seagullcentury.org/
>
> Six Pillars Century http://www.6pillarscentury.org/
>
> Civil War Century http://www.civilwarcentury.com/
>
>
> DC Randonneurs Calendar here: http://www.dcrand.org/dcr/calendar.php
>
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[RBW] Re: C / GAP Trail Users: Bike Roll-On Service on Amtrak's Capitol Limited

[Alan Pickett]

Game - changer is right! Time to start planning an expedition! Thanks for 
the heads up!

On Monday, September 14, 2015 at 4:50:39 PM UTC-4, WETH wrote:
>
> That's a game changer and a long time in coming.  Thanks for the update!!
>
> On Monday, September 14, 2015 at 3:39:30 PM UTC-4, Bob Ehrenbeck wrote:
>>
>> Good news for those wanting to use Amtrak in combination with a tour on 
>> the C / GAP trail (between Pittsburgh and DC) but are put off by the 
>> hassle of disassembling your bike and sticking it in a box: Amtrak’s 
>> Capitol Limited, which runs between DC and Chicago via Pittsburgh, now 
>> offers roll-on bike service! 
>>
>>
>> *http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/columnists/ct-amtrak-bicycles-getting-around-met-0914-20150914-column.html*
>>  
>> 
>>
>> http://www.amtrak.com/bring-your-bicycle-onboard
>>
>> Bob E
>>
>

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[RBW] Re: Classic Bike Show + Swap Meet in Frederick MD @ Gravel & Grind, Sept 27th

[Alan Pickett]

Hey Tony - 

Was not an "organized" ride, but rather I and a few friends used one of the 
cue-sheets posted on the Frederick pedalers website, and I see dozens of 
cue sheets linked on their site, of varying lengths, several of which 
involve covered bridges. This particular ride is really just lightly 
rolling terrain around emmitsburg. I do believe that the Frederic Pedalers 
announce group rides on a regular basis, but I have not yet participated.

A couple of weeks ago, I rode to Gettysburg from the Utica Park parking lot 
using another of the cue sheets, and it was pretty sublime just quietly 
rolling into the town - the cue sheet took us past many of the places 
included on guided tours - as opposed to on a tour bus. All of the roads 
are paved, and when we encountered detours due to work at bridge crossings 
these have been easy to improvise with gps maps. We have yet to encounter a 
"bad" piece of road, and often the detours result in interesting nooks and 
crannies we would never have discovered. It's all lovely scenery.

Again, not sure about elevations, but there were no monster climbs, and 
nothing that couldn't be managed by dropping into low gearing, sitting up, 
and taking it all in!

Hope everyone is having a great weekend,
Alan



On Saturday, September 5, 2015 at 10:51:48 AM UTC-4, Tony DeFilippo wrote:
>
> Alan, is the covered bridges an organized ride? What's the elevation like? 
>  50 is a great distance and I'm a fan of covered bridges!!

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[RBW] Re: Classic Bike Show + Swap Meet in Frederick MD @ Gravel & Grind, Sept 27th

[Alan Pickett]

I'm not sure if I will be in town on that date, but if I am, I would love 
to attend. 

I think the ride from DC to Gravel and Grind, if it were round trip, would 
approach if not surpass a century(!), no? 

Another option could be to look into some of the nearby loops in and around 
Frederick, and simply use Gravel and Grind as a rally point. the Frederick 
Pedalers  have staked out 
some nice rides. Again, not sure if I will be in town, but if so, perhaps 
we can use this thread to join up in a few weeks?

By the way, tomorrow, I will be doing the Covered Bridges 50 
 mile 
ride with some friends, and may stop at Gravel and Grind to say hi. A 
definite stop will by Volt's Family Meal : 
adult milkshakes and fried chicken taste REALLY FRIGGIN' GOOD after 
pedaling for 50! 

Hope all are well. 
Alan

On Tuesday, September 1, 2015 at 8:31:18 PM UTC-4, Gravel & Grind Espresso 
+ Bikes wrote:
>
> Dan, 
>
> Take the canal up till the Monocacy Aquaduct then:  Monocacy Bottom Road 
> to Mt Ephriam to Park Mills to Lily Pons to New Design.  Follow New Design 
> north until you hit the city.  Mostly low traffic or shouldered.  Mt 
> Ephriam has a good dirt bit, and if you wanna extend it, take in Peters Rd 
> and Sugarloaf Mtn road.-james
>
> On Tuesday, September 1, 2015 at 5:23:02 PM UTC-4, DMG wrote:
>>
>> Cool - have been looking for an excuse to check out the shop for a while. 
>> Anyone else interested in riding up from DC? On a related matter, anyone 
>> have a good route to Fredrick from DC?
>> -Dan, DC (duh)
>>
>>

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Re: [RBW] Purple for a Riv?

[Alan Pickett]

LOVE the agapanthus! It looks like a shade from a bygone era. I think the 
mythical icelandic "little people" prolly paint their road signs in this 
color. Its downright elvish. 



Alan "It's A Beautiful day" Pickett



On Wednesday, September 2, 2015 at 3:10:57 PM UTC-4, Bill wrote:
>
> Still alive and well in Columbus.  This shade of agapanthus purple just 
> dazzles in direct sunlight.
>
> On Tuesday, September 1, 2015 at 11:54:28 PM UTC-4, Tony DeFilippo wrote:
>>
>> The purple-luki wasn't for me but I did grow to appreciate it as a nice 
>> color.  I hear that Bill in Ohio is enjoying it still. 
>>
>> A darker purple might have worked for me, I learned to ride on a dark, 
>> sparkly purple 'ladies' Schwinn after all. 
>>
>> I'm happy with my dark green one and the Bombadil blue is growing on me 
>> to. 
>>
>> Tony 
>>
>

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[RBW] Re: Aeropress Inventor

[Alan Pickett]

That is very nice, and he seems like a really cool, gentle, dude. He looks 
at times unnervingly like Walt in Breaking Bad at times...(!)

On Thursday, August 27, 2015 at 12:21:44 AM UTC-4, cyclot...@gmail.com 
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 Aeropress has a lot of love here. This is a pretty fun read/watch: 
 http://io9.com/its-impossible-to-watch-this-profile-of-aeropress-inven-1726692916


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[RBW] Re: Small Items to add to a RBW Order.

[Alan Pickett]

This just to say I'm officially embarrassed by the careless typos - I blame 
the dictation feature on my iPhone - from my above post. Must proofread 
after dictating on the fly!

A thought: you could alway just purchase the last remaining supply of 
Grant's Tagua Nuts http://www.rivbike.com/product-p/mnut.htm! Inventory 
suggests there are only 14 $2 orders of these remaining in stock, then 
likely gone forever!

Al

On Monday, August 24, 2015 at 10:54:50 AM UTC-4, David Banzer wrote:

 I'm putting together a Riv order to take advantage of a birthday coupon 
 and thought I'd treat myself to some extras this year.
 What are your favorite small items (under $20) that Riv carries?
 Bike or non-bike related items welcomed.
 Thanks,
 David
 Chicago


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[RBW] Small Items to add to a RBW Order.

[Alan Pickett]

I almost always going to John's Irish strap,  and often where one is a belt so 
that it is always handy. There's also the wooden Rivendell yo-yo which is sort 
of hard to pass up - I got one with my last order. I also got one of the NItto 
factory hats which are kind of a kick in the pants. The little magnets are cool 
too… I also often get the little brass housing fair are y which are kind of a 
kick in the pants. The little magnets are cool too… I also often get the little 
brass housing ferrules and The silver shifter black plastic washer that 
occasionally break ends need replacing.

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[RBW] Re: Rivendell Red

[Alan Pickett]

I really like that Legolas red.  Does anyone know the story behind the Carter's 
Rivendell's? I see a picture on the inter-webs with both Jimmy and Rosalyn 
standing astride to Rivendell's. Hopis doing OK. I have not yet checked the 
news today.

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Re: [RBW] Re: Local Rivendell Dealer suggestions for DELMARVA area?

[Alan Pickett]

Hi Jeff - they do indeed look well suited to each other, and would likely 
become fast friends!

Yesterday, my partner Heidi and I stopped by Gravel and Grind to check it 
out, and it is a LOVELY place, owned and staffed by super-sweet people, and 
already stocked with Nitto Racks, Green Grips bar tape, and complete S24O 
camping kits for rent to encourage people to get out and enjoy the area. 
It's very thoughtfully curated, and really looks like a relaxing and 
welcoming coffee shop with bike books on display, coffee a-brewing, and 
rivish conversation bubbling about from all corners. I noticed a 
Bridgestone RB-1 outside, kitted out with a waxed canvas bag dangling from 
the seat post. Looks like a great place, and I will be returning to see how 
they do and cheer them on. 

The two owners are themselves excited about Riv Frames (Atlantis and a 
Hunq') they have recently ordered, and are expecting to have some 
demo/floor model frames in the shop relatively soon to show off.

Good things are happening in Frederick!

On Friday, August 14, 2015 at 5:51:46 PM UTC-4, Jeff wrote:

 On Fri, Aug 14, 2015 at 3:48 PM, Alan Pickett youbety...@gmail.com 
 javascript: wrote:

 Cool man, cool! I may go on a little 30 mile ride near Frederick on my 
 newly minted Bosco-Sam this Sunday, and will stop by the shop to say hi. 
 Great news!


 I'll definitely find my way to Frederick for a visit at some point, as I 
 make a trip between home of Silver Spring, MD and Hagerstown, MD to visit 
 family at least once a month, and Frederick is conveniently about half-way 
 between the two. Either way, my Sam wants to be friends with your Sam, 
 Alan, so maybe we can arrange a play date for the two...



 -Jeff
 Silver Spring, MD 


 On Wednesday, August 12, 2015 at 10:28:54 AM UTC-4, Lungimsam wrote:

 Wow! A place to test ride Rivs that's not too far from home! 
 And avoid shipping costs for the smaller stuff!




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[RBW] Re: Single Speed Sam on Blug

[Alan Pickett]

Bill, i hope and believe that your goodies will arrive unscathed and in 
this lifetime. It actually sounds like sort of fun order to track as it 
makes it's way around the globe. From here in MD, I always obsessively 
check my Riv orders as they go from San Ramon, Oakland, then San Pablo, 
whereupon they disappear for a few days before popping back up in Laurel, 
Maryland. It reminds me of Apollo 13 when they are on the dark side of the 
moon and out of radio contact, and everybody's just holding their breath.

I know that may sound like a hyperbolic comparison, since I'm just a dude 
waiting for some pine tar soap and a John's Irish strap to his my porch, 
and those guys were like, in OUTER SPACE careening around in a broken 
vessel, but, hey, that's how it feels TO ME! Know what I mean? 


Alan who has been known to press refresh on the UPS tracker website an 
unhealthy number of times  in Silver Spring

On Thursday, August 13, 2015 at 3:54:55 PM UTC-4, Bill Lindsay wrote:

 I called and asked about this rack as well when I saw it in the brochure. 
  I had Dave on the phone, and he said maybe it's still around, I'll have a 
 look.  Now I have something to razz him about, since it looks like he had 
 a look and kept it for himself!  

 Speaking of the 27F, I did go ahead and order a real 27F, with detachable 
 lowriders and all, from Alex's Cycle in Japan.  For some reason I was/am 
 nervous/anxious about actually getting stuff from a vendor in Japan.  I 
 don't know why I'm nervous, but I am.  I placed the order on the 8th, and 
 now I have a tracking number and I can my order has made it to Osaka.  I 
 ordered a 27F rack plus a pair of Ostrich DLX panniers.  


 On Thursday, August 13, 2015 at 12:26:34 PM UTC-7, Alan Pickett wrote:

 I called and spoke to Jared about this rack, after seeing it on the blug 
 back on August 20th (on a cheviot) and he confirmed that it was a sample 
 27f without the low rider attachments. I think it can also be seen in the 
 Cheviot brochure, in the page showing a touring set up. 

 I would buy this rack as a sturdier side-pull front than the mark's, 
 which I have and appreciate!



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[RBW] Single Speed Sam on Blug

[Alan Pickett]

I called and spoke to Jared about this rack, after seeing it on the blug back 
on August 20th (on a cheviot) and he confirmed that it was a sample 27f without 
the low rider attachments. I think it can also be seen in the Cheviot brochure, 
in the page showing a touring set up. 

I would buy this rack as a sturdier side-pull front than the mark's, which I 
have and appreciate!

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[RBW] Re: Ride Report: Summit of the Patricks

[Alan Pickett]

Maybe I'm just an emotional wreck this week (quitting smoking, diet 
changes, job change), but seeing the picture of both of you together 
brought a teary tingle (no actual tear as i am a stoic and emotinally 
repressed white male) to my eye, and a joyful one at that. Both of you are 
such playful, positive and reflective contributors to this list, It's great 
to think of you meeting in such a grand place and spending some time 
together. Thanks for allowing all of us to vicariously attend The Summit Of 
The Patricks!

On Thursday, August 6, 2015 at 4:24:42 PM UTC-4, Deacon Patrick wrote:

 We navigated the logistics and met at Rampart Reservoir while Patrick of 
 the Moore was here in the highlands. After mastering the astrophysics of 
 disk brakes and the sun spot  expansion of brake pad effect on his front 
 brake, we got underway and had an amazing ride.

 What a pleasure to meet and get to ride and share toil and sweat views and 
 flowers and amazing trail and road, including “you’re joking, right?” roads 
 with the added feature of providing toe floss for the shoeless. Grin.

 Thank you for a fantastic ride, Patrick! Fantastic gift.

 We Photoshopped, er, used a tripod, and obtained proof that we can be seen 
 together. Check out the evidence but please, don’t zoom in too closely at 
 the fuzzy pixels or incongruent lighting. 
 https://www.flickr.com/photos/32311885@N07/sets/72157656815085416 

 With abandon,
 Patrick

 *www.MindYourHeadCoop.org http://www.MindYourHeadCoop.org*
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[RBW] Re: Ketogenics: long rides during the first couple weeks

[Alan Pickett]

 and processed sugar, but instead 
 eat fruit and nuts. Have fun, and enjoy the ride!

 With abandon,
 Patrick 

 On Tuesday, August 4, 2015 at 5:02:56 AM UTC-6, Alan Pickett wrote:

 Hi All - 

 First, feel free to just point me to another thread if this has been 
 hashed and re-hashed before. 

 Here's the scoop: Started the EBDJ diet last Saturday August 1st, with 
 a commitment to go 6 weeks, then assess. At the same time, we (my lady 
 Heidi and I) have been training up for a rambling century ride in 
 September, and are gonna do 60 or so miles this weekend. I'm a little 
 worried about going on a long ride, one I would normally carb - up for, 
 before my body is doing the fat-burning ketogenic thing, for fear of 
 bonking. This weekend, we went on a 25 mile and I ended up riding like a 
 tree sloth, in slow motion, even on the flats, desperately hallucinating 
 a 
 20oz Pepsi, but ate almonds instead, and sort of limped along. 

 Does anyone have any thoughts or perspective on using little carb 
 bombs during the first couple of weeks on this diet? I don't want to 
 forestall the conversion and am all-in for the duration of this little 
 experiment, and I assume that slamming a pepsi or eating dates on a long 
 ride will mess with the gluconeogenisis going on in the liver, which is 
 the 
 step before switching to fat burning, right?

 We are just ride types, so are not into grimacing, white knuckling 
 during our rides, so our energy expenditure is not pegged to maximum, 
 it's 
 just having enough gas for the duration I'm worried about.

 Any thoughts from those who have been there before?

 Hope all are well
 Alan in Silver Spring MD






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[RBW] Re: Ketogenics: long rides during the first couple weeks

[Alan Pickett]

Dear Patrick and Andy - 

Thank you for your thoughtful responses, I really appreciate it, and 
Deacon, I find your conceptual way of sharing both what you understand 
about the science (even if the technical details make your eyes and brain 
glaze over, as they do mine!) and how you relate that to your own 
experience I find extremely helpful. It is true, I have no (known!...) 
medical condition that would necessitate a formal ketogenic diet, but am 
interested in a little experimentation as I now have a modestly elevated 
HA1C and some wacked lipid profiles that appear to be trending in the wrong 
direction. I think I may have thrown myself into this a little to quickly 
and extremely, and will take a little more time to study up and perhaps 
reframe my timeline, expectations, and self-care along the way!

I'm also not particularly interested in a severe approach to food and 
love making, eating, and savoring it too much to even want to be overly 
regimented about it, but it appears that a little well-informed, 
non-oppressive regimentation may be in order. Thank you for suggesting the 
PHD book, it is ordered, and if I understand you correctly, i may be able 
to induce some fat burning down the road without being formally 
ketogenic. In the meantime, I'll make sure I'm properly fueled and 
unmiserable as I continue to ride along!

Hope you are both well, and Deacon, I'm glad you have taken such good care 
of your battered brain, we are all beneficiaries of your insights, humor, 
knowledge, and encouragement, and while I know from what you have written 
that you have had to make major lifestyle changes to keep both psyche and 
soma in good form, any deficits are undetectable from where I sit.

Cheers!
Alan

On Tuesday, August 4, 2015 at 8:01:14 AM UTC-4, Deacon Patrick wrote:

 Alan,

 The simple answer is you need time to transition you body to being fat 
 burning rather than sugar burning, especially during extra levels of 
 activity. As in 1-3 months of transition time at a minimum before you could 
 head out on a ride and not eat anything. The long answer is there are a 
 number of things going on and I'll address a few of them from my own 
 experience (I lose the details of the science of it, so think in concepts).

 You just started this thing. This is your fourth day. Bring some dates or 
 other dried fruit on your longer rides and eat them if you bonk. Your liver 
 isn't yet up to speed on converting protein to glucose on the fly. It will 
 get there, but it has to build up to it, and that's part of what takes 
 months.

 Being ketogenic is a state where your body does not consume carbs of any 
 kind (less than 20 grams) in a day. I'm betting you don't want or need to 
 be full time ketogenic. This is an extreme version of low carb and from all 
 I've read it is not recommended unless you have a medical condition 
 warranting it (generally a neurological issue of some sort). I am nearly 
 always ketogenic and my bludgeoned brain functions much better this way. 
 However, my wife and daughters eat safe carbs (white rice, potatoes, 
 sweet potatoes), four fist fulls a day. This is the approach of the Perfect 
 Health Diet (book on Amazon, no affiliation) and it may be a great way for 
 you to go. You become fat burning, but also eat the carbs your body needs 
 rather than relying on your liver to produce them.

 There is a don't do it window in low carb eating between ketogenic and 
 low carb consumption where the body is getting to many carbs to be in 
 ketosis, and not enough carbs to replace what the body isn't doing. I 
 forget the amounts of carbs involved here, but the concept is go higher or 
 lower, not in the middle. 

 You may find the concept of intermittent fasting helpful. It's simple: eat 
 all your food for the day in an 8 hour window, then fast for the other 16. 
 This is well explored in the PHD book as well. This is great for health as 
 your body enters a pick up the trash and recycle the bits floating around 
 phase.

 If you need to eat carbs for your Sept. century ride, eat them. No biggie. 
 I would recommend avoiding grains and processed sugar, but instead eat 
 fruit and nuts. Have fun, and enjoy the ride!

 With abandon,
 Patrick 

 On Tuesday, August 4, 2015 at 5:02:56 AM UTC-6, Alan Pickett wrote:

 Hi All - 

 First, feel free to just point me to another thread if this has been 
 hashed and re-hashed before. 

 Here's the scoop: Started the EBDJ diet last Saturday August 1st, with a 
 commitment to go 6 weeks, then assess. At the same time, we (my lady Heidi 
 and I) have been training up for a rambling century ride in September, and 
 are gonna do 60 or so miles this weekend. I'm a little worried about going 
 on a long ride, one I would normally carb - up for, before my body is 
 doing the fat-burning ketogenic thing, for fear of bonking. This weekend, 
 we went on a 25 mile and I ended up riding like a tree sloth, in slow 
 motion, even on the flats, desperately

[RBW] Ketogenics: long rides during the first couple weeks

[Alan Pickett]

Hi All - 

First, feel free to just point me to another thread if this has been hashed 
and re-hashed before. 

Here's the scoop: Started the EBDJ diet last Saturday August 1st, with a 
commitment to go 6 weeks, then assess. At the same time, we (my lady Heidi 
and I) have been training up for a rambling century ride in September, and 
are gonna do 60 or so miles this weekend. I'm a little worried about going 
on a long ride, one I would normally carb - up for, before my body is 
doing the fat-burning ketogenic thing, for fear of bonking. This weekend, 
we went on a 25 mile and I ended up riding like a tree sloth, in slow 
motion, even on the flats, desperately hallucinating a 20oz Pepsi, but ate 
almonds instead, and sort of limped along. 

Does anyone have any thoughts or perspective on using little carb bombs 
during the first couple of weeks on this diet? I don't want to forestall 
the conversion and am all-in for the duration of this little experiment, 
and I assume that slamming a pepsi or eating dates on a long ride will mess 
with the gluconeogenisis going on in the liver, which is the step before 
switching to fat burning, right?

We are just ride types, so are not into grimacing, white knuckling during 
our rides, so our energy expenditure is not pegged to maximum, it's just 
having enough gas for the duration I'm worried about.

Any thoughts from those who have been there before?

Hope all are well
Alan in Silver Spring MD




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[RBW] Re: Bike rental Rockville, MD area

[Alan Pickett]

Not sure what your size is, but I have a spare surly Crosscheck - it's a 56 
- that is completely Rivendellized, and you would be welcome to borrow it. 
Albatross bars with Silver BE shifters, the Sugino Triple Crank, Tektro 
Wide cantis, 45mm tires. It's probably a little de-tuned at the moment, but 
would still carry you capably through a rambling DC area ride. Feel free to 
contact me off the list if that sounds appealing.

Alan in Silver Spring

On Monday, August 3, 2015 at 10:28:12 PM UTC-4, DS wrote:

 Off topic and not Riv-related, but thought I'd ask the group as there 
 seems to be some DC area people on here. I'm traveling there in a few weeks 
 to visit my brother. He has one bike (an '84 trek 500 I converted to 650b 
 for him) and I'm looking for another so we can do a rambling 30-50 mile day 
 ride. There doesn't seem to be any shops that rent bikes in that area as 
 far as I can tell. We won't have a car really so planning to leave from the 
 Twinbrook area (or somewhere the metro can take us from Twinbrook). 

 Can anyone here on the list chime in? Or better yet, if anyone has a bike 
 for a 5'7 80 PBH person they'd be willing to lend out for the day, and 
 even join us, let me know ;)


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[RBW] Bike rental Rockville, MD area

[Alan Pickett]

Oops, didn't notice your PBH, my surly might also be too big. 

I have also noticed the bike rental place at union station, it's called Bike 
and Roll: http://bikeandrolldc.com.

There's also the Capitol BikeShare that has stations all over the city, and you 
can get a 24 hour membership for $8 plus a fee based on total time, and it 
looks like this could get a little steep if you have the bike for several 
hours, website: http://www.capitalbikeshare.com

Either way, enjoy the ride!
Alan

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[RBW] Re: Riv-ish Bicycle shops in Hokkaido

[Alan Pickett]

Hi Nils - 

I know nothing about Japan or Hokkaido bike shops, but I do remember that 
Jitensha Studio sells a high quality cloth bar tape called Viva that is 
made in Japan. Here http://www.jitensha.com/eng/e_index.html is a link to 
their website, and contact email is: h...@jitensha.com. 

By the way, the site says that Hiroshi is spending more time now in Japan, 
but is responding to emails, so perhaps you could get a quick turnaround on 
an inquiry and get that bar re-wrapped.

Looking forward to more details of your adventure.
Alan

On Friday, July 31, 2015 at 2:51:05 AM UTC-4, Nils Janson wrote:

 Hi all --

 I'm currently one week in to a three week credit card tour of Hokkaido, 
 Japan, with my dad, and I was wondering if any list members knew of a 
 Riv-ish shop in Hokkaido.  I'm in Hakodate now and will be in Niseko, 
 Otaru, and Sapporo in the upcoming week, so any of those cities would fit 
 the bill.  I'm specifically looking for cloth bar tape, and it would be 
 neat if I could find a local cycling cap.

 I got into a little bit of an accident on my first day due to the 
 combination of jet lag and heat (95º and 90% humidity in Tokyo -- ugh!) and 
 ripped the rear derailer cable straight out of my handlebar wrapping. 
  Luckily, nothing else was seriously damaged other than my pride, and I was 
 able to substitute a John's Irish Strap for the bar wrap.  But it would be 
 nice if I could wrap it in some real cloth bar tape, so I'm interested in 
 buying some along the way.

 Incidentally, the Homer is handling the trip like a champ.  I couldn't be 
 happier with my choice of bike to bring along on this trip, even if it did 
 involve the additional hassle of boxing up the bike (lesson learned: use 
 pool noodles!).

 Obligatory shot of my bike, along with my dad's bike and the bike of 
 Hiroaki, a 22-year-old cyclist we met on our third day of cycling, attached.

 Nils


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[RBW] Re: Mechanical disadvantage? Seeking joyful braking.

[Alan Pickett]

Eric - Yes, squeezing hard, not bottoming out. I was thinking about 
switching levers. happily, it's not a pressing issue (pun was unintended, 
but I would still like to take credit!), but I will try your suggestion of 
switching the yoke as the least expensive and involved thing to fiddle with 
first! Thx.

On Friday, June 26, 2015 at 9:22:52 AM UTC-4, Ginz wrote:

 Alan,

 The issue is that you are squeezing the lever super hard?  It is not 
 bottoming out, correct?

 Are you using the stock, triangular cable hanger?  Try the narrower and 
 inexpensive Dia Compe.  This will have the same effect as lowering the 
 hanger (increasing he mechanical advantage.)

 My suggestion is to simply try a different lever and see what happens. 
  I've done that and found different levers produced different results.

 Eric



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[RBW] Re: Mechanical disadvantage? Seeking joyful braking.

[Alan Pickett]

Thanks for all the responses - I will fiddle a bit more before plunking 
down any serious money since I don't have to change anything, but I really 
appreciate the wisdom and perspective of the group. As I understand is, the 
CR720s as a high profile brake will certainly have less MA, but I''m still 
a little confused about how one evaluates mechanical advantage regarding 
levers - is this what is going on when one refers to short vs long 
pull? 

It's funny, I can visualize the concept of Mechanical advantage best if I 
imagine the classic see-saw diagram with a fulcrum in the middle and levers 
of various lengths, but I get totally lost when that translates to straddle 
yokes, straddle wire angles, and the various points along a brake arm that 
play a role in determining leverage. 

Sounds like many of you really get results with V Brakes. And Deacon! That 
straddle yoke is in the stratosphere, at least as far as my bike relates: I 
moved mine down just above the (fenders) tire.

Happy Friday Everybody,
Alan
On Friday, June 26, 2015 at 7:02:04 AM UTC-4, Alan Pickett wrote:

 So, before I ponied up for my Hillborne, I purchased a Surly Cross Check 
 about four years ago and completely Rivendellized it, with what at the 
 time amounted to a Riv Build Kit: Albatross bars, Sugino triple, bar-end 
 silver shifters, Tektro CR720 wide profile cantis and the Tektro Eclipse 
 linear pull levers. I never thought much about it, and the brakes have 
 performed over time, and the whole bike treated me well, even during the 
 Ragbrai of 2012, with over 100 degree temperatures most days.

 Now that I have my side pull hillborne with the lovely bigmouth side pulls 
 and the tektro mountain levers, I find that I really love the smooth, 
 almost buttery action of the levers and the lack of white knuckling 
 required to get modulation out of the brakes, and have started fiddling 
 with my old setup on the Surly. I've lowered the CR720's straddle wire 
 hanger as low as it will go, and have double checked to make sure that the 
 setting on the Eclipse levers is set for non-linear pull brakes (y'all 
 might remember that it had two settings for the cable nipple, depending on 
 the brakes used), but still have a sense of having to really clench the 
 levers to white-knuckle levels to bring the bike to rest. It's not that 
 they've ever failed, and I certainly become used to this set-up whenever I 
 return to the Surly, but do find that I like the action of the side pulls 
 and Mountain levers a lot more - it's like having power brakes vs 
 floor-stompers!

 So, is this simply a matter of mechanical advantage, and have I likely 
 exhausted my ability to get as much MA out of the cantis and levers, or is 
 there anything I can do to get more leverage? I remember in the description 
 of the CR720s they are described as having a positiveness and crispness, 
 and maybe that is another way of saying less mechanical advantage, and 
 that's just how wide profile canto's behave? I did wonder if I could 
 replace the levers, since it appears that the Eclipse levers were actually 
 designed for linear pull brakes and maybe a poor choice?

 Lastly, bear with me. If there is an exhaustive post buried in the ROB, 
 feel free to point me in the direction. I also realize I may be confusing 
 some terminology above and using language imprecisely. I definitely don't 
 know my applied physics!

 Hope all are well this morning,
 Alan


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[RBW] Mechanical disadvantage? Seeking joyful braking.

[Alan Pickett]

So, before I ponied up for my Hillborne, I purchased a Surly Cross Check 
about four years ago and completely Rivendellized it, with what at the 
time amounted to a Riv Build Kit: Albatross bars, Sugino triple, bar-end 
silver shifters, Tektro CR720 wide profile cantis and the Tektro Eclipse 
linear pull levers. I never thought much about it, and the brakes have 
performed over time, and the whole bike treated me well, even during the 
Ragbrai of 2012, with over 100 degree temperatures most days.

Now that I have my side pull hillborne with the lovely bigmouth side pulls 
and the tektro mountain levers, I find that I really love the smooth, 
almost buttery action of the levers and the lack of white knuckling 
required to get modulation out of the brakes, and have started fiddling 
with my old setup on the Surly. I've lowered the CR720's straddle wire 
hanger as low as it will go, and have double checked to make sure that the 
setting on the Eclipse levers is set for non-linear pull brakes (y'all 
might remember that it had two settings for the cable nipple, depending on 
the brakes used), but still have a sense of having to really clench the 
levers to white-knuckle levels to bring the bike to rest. It's not that 
they've ever failed, and I certainly become used to this set-up whenever I 
return to the Surly, but do find that I like the action of the side pulls 
and Mountain levers a lot more - it's like having power brakes vs 
floor-stompers!

So, is this simply a matter of mechanical advantage, and have I likely 
exhausted my ability to get as much MA out of the cantis and levers, or is 
there anything I can do to get more leverage? I remember in the description 
of the CR720s they are described as having a positiveness and crispness, 
and maybe that is another way of saying less mechanical advantage, and 
that's just how wide profile canto's behave? I did wonder if I could 
replace the levers, since it appears that the Eclipse levers were actually 
designed for linear pull brakes and maybe a poor choice?

Lastly, bear with me. If there is an exhaustive post buried in the ROB, 
feel free to point me in the direction. I also realize I may be confusing 
some terminology above and using language imprecisely. I definitely don't 
know my applied physics!

Hope all are well this morning,
Alan

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[RBW] Re: FS: 58CM Sam Hillborne Sage Green

[Alan Pickett]

pretty1

On Thursday, June 11, 2015 at 8:37:01 PM UTC-4, Ryan Thompson wrote:

 I’m selling my 58cm Sam Hillborne double top tube in Sage Green to make 
 room for another Rivendell mixte.  

  

 I purchased the bike new in January 2014.  There are few scratches here 
 and there from mounting racks, some scratches from when I dropped the chain 
 the first time I rode the bike, and a scratch on the seat lug from mounting 
 a trail-a-bike.

  

 Pretty standard albatross Riv build:

 9spd Dura Ace bar end shifters

 CX-70 front derailleur

 Deore rear derailleur

 Sugino Wide/Low - 175mm arms with 40/24 rings

 9sp 11/32 cassette

 9sp Chain

 FSA sealed cartridge bearing headset

 Tektro R559 silver side pull long-reach brakes

 Nitto Albatross chromo handlebars with 

 Nitto Tallux stem 10cm

 Shimano mountain bike brake levers Silver

 Meisha's corks grips with groove for barend shifters (Amber shelacked)

 Kalloy seatpost silver

 Brooks B17 honey

 Rich built Velocity Synergy wheels with Shimano XT 36 hole hubs

 New Schwalbe Marathon GreenGuard tires 38mm 

 MKS RMS Sneaker pedals

 Mark’s front Nitto rack with basket

 SKS longboard fenders in silver

 Pletcher single leg kickstand

  

 $1,800 complete. Hoping to sell locally in the DC Metro but will ship if 
 the buyer covers shipping (CONUS only) and any paypal fees. I'm happy to 
 answer any questions.

  

 Photos here:

 https://www.flickr.com/photos/ashtop/sets/72157654405754032  
 https://www.flickr.com/photos/ashtop/sets/72157654405754032

  

 Thanks,

  

 Ryan

 (804) 638-4315

 Arlington, VA


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[RBW] Re: Is it crazy to do a century with Boscos?

[Alan Pickett]

Hi guys - 

I didn't want to let this post fade without letting y'all know how much I 
enjoyed your responses - especially the cajoling, encouragement, and 
stories 'bout smoking'. While I'm still inhaling, I''m also now riding the 
bike to work - about a seven mile commute each way from Silver Spring into 
DC - which is significantly diminishing my ciggy intake! 

I am also thoroughly enthused by the cries of ride on regarding the 
boscos, and enjoyed the references to chocolate milk, molten metal, and 
plain common sense.

You guys are cool...

Alan



On Sunday, June 7, 2015 at 8:18:03 PM UTC-4, Alan Pickett wrote:

 The Lady Who Makes Me Pedal has started a campaign to get me to limit my 
 cigarette smoking by imposing a Soviet-style regimen of preparatory weekend 
 rides, culminating in perhaps the Amish Country Century 
 http://amishcountrybiketour.com later this summer. At the moment, I am 
 riding and liking my Bosco'd 2 top-tubed hillborne (it's a greenie, 56). We 
 are not at all go-fast people, and so far, I have managed a 50 mile outing 
 without any ill effects. It seems like I really can get down into a decent 
 resting position at the front of the bar for a little aero time, then move 
 and shift quite a bit on the bars to counter numbness, pressure, etc...

 Does anyone have reports or reflections after going significant 
 single-ride distances with Boscos you might be willing to share?

 As an aside, I was peeking at the aluminum Jones loop H-bars, and actually 
 thought these could be pretty darn comfy for an extended ride, but the 
 clamp diameter is 31.8, and I think Nitto only makes one quill stem 
 http://www.retro-gression.com/product/nitto-ui-12-31-8-quill-stem that 
 would work for this. I'm just future-dreaming here, but has anyone ridden 
 with a Jones bar on a Riv, and if so, how did you fix it up and what were 
 your impressions?

 Hope all are well this fine Sunday,
 Alan in Silver Spring, MD




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[RBW] Re: Is it crazy to do a century with Boscos?

[Alan Pickett]

Now it's all starting to make sense: I'm 1/4 Sicilian! 

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[RBW] Is it crazy to do a century with Boscos?

[Alan Pickett]

The Lady Who Makes Me Pedal has started a campaign to get me to limit my 
cigarette smoking by imposing a Soviet-style regimen of preparatory weekend 
rides, culminating in perhaps the Amish Country Century 
http://amishcountrybiketour.com later this summer. At the moment, I am 
riding and liking my Bosco'd 2 top-tubed hillborne (it's a greenie, 56). We 
are not at all go-fast people, and so far, I have managed a 50 mile outing 
without any ill effects. It seems like I really can get down into a decent 
resting position at the front of the bar for a little aero time, then move 
and shift quite a bit on the bars to counter numbness, pressure, etc...

Does anyone have reports or reflections after going significant single-ride 
distances with Boscos you might be willing to share?

As an aside, I was peeking at the aluminum Jones loop H-bars, and actually 
thought these could be pretty darn comfy for an extended ride, but the 
clamp diameter is 31.8, and I think Nitto only makes one quill stem 
http://www.retro-gression.com/product/nitto-ui-12-31-8-quill-stem that 
would work for this. I'm just future-dreaming here, but has anyone ridden 
with a Jones bar on a Riv, and if so, how did you fix it up and what were 
your impressions?

Hope all are well this fine Sunday,
Alan in Silver Spring, MD


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[RBW] Re: Local Rivendell Dealer suggestions for DELMARVA area?

[Alan Pickett]

Ok, first, Ed, I just watched the video of you and Mary 
(http://www.bicyclespacedc.com/our-blog/2014/11/15/ed-and-mary) and, OMG!! 
THAT IS THE CUTEST, MOST ADORABLE damn thing I have ever seen!!! And there 
you are, on a Rivendell! In a Bicycle Space video!!! That is super sweet on 
all counts.

When I read local blogs here and peek at local shops, and now see the 
responses to this post from people who are clearly plugged-in to the scene 
here, I see DC as an already enlightened cycling community. There is a very 
wide continuum of riders here, from super-athletes to Frankenbike welders, 
and I think there is a more than concentrated number of Riv-minded riders, 
people who may not or may only remotely know of Rivendell bikes, but have 
independently embraced many of the philosophical values shared by ROB 
members. It's parallel evolution. 

People like Ed and Mary (Ed please correct me if i mis-state) seem to 
actively promote a bike-positive lifestyle in the DC area that appeals to a 
lot of different kinds of riders, but ultimately, when I read Mary's blog, 
she is sharing STORIES about her love of cycling as a vehicle for 
personal discovery, the experience of beauty, and social pleasure and 
enrichment. That, in my opinion, is RIVISH TO THE CORE. 

Riv's request for help is so feeble and unenthusiastic sounding, that I 
wonder if they mean it, and if Grant is just burned out or demoralized at 
the thought of having to whore himself out to sell bikes, and I worry 
that he may be mistaken. Look at the video above, and just try and tell me 
that a Just Ride revolution has yet to come to DC. Riv did a pop-up 
before they opened the retail shop, right? Keith's Bicycle Pro shop is on M 
St. in Georgetown, Washington DC, and he's interested? That's the frigging 
5th Avenue of this town. Uppity people with serious bank promenade up and 
down that street all day and night. If you want to sell a few pretty 
looking bikes, I don't think you could ask for a better shot. Bicycle Space 
is a thriving business, opening up three shops in DC and using all of the 
groovy tools of modern technology to create a true community of local 
customers that feels a bit like a family, and they sell Grip Kings and 
bikes with Kickstands. No revolution needed, the eagle has already landed.

The more I think about it, I like the idea of Riv doing a 5 - city pop-up 
tour. They already did a cool one in walnut creek. Local supporters and 
lover's of Riv could help out on the ground (I would think that some would 
even let a couple of Riv staff members crash on a floor, or shine up our 
own bikes for display or test rides to lower costs of trucking a ton of 
equipment) and local bike shops sound like they would gladly involve 
themselves, because they already get it. They don't need conversion or a 
sales pitch, and they already have developed their own successful ways of 
communicating with their customers in a meaningful way. Maybe the details 
of something resembling a dealership relationship are just not workable, 
(and hell, maybe that's actually ok - Riv's individual success is more akin 
to slow food than a KFC franchise...). I am convinced that a 2 week 
pop-up in Union Market, Bicycle Pro, or Bicycle Space, done in Rivish 
fashion as a social experience would be first and foremost FUN. It would 
only add to the already thriving community of like minded riders, and could 
result in furthering the Just Ride revolution that is already well in 
play here.

That's it. I think I'm done with this. If people like Keith and Ed are 
already  in our community and our friends, and Riv is serious about this 
idea, then I don't what more can be done. If anything begins to Pop-up, I 
would commit to being part of the pop-up-planning process!

ps, Liz: I see you are right, I didn't know the Bicycle Space near 
Judiciary square was interim, and am also really glad to see them 
developing so wonderfully into the cycling community in dc. Ivy City? 
That's cool!

Alan

On Thursday, June 4, 2015 at 3:41:41 AM UTC-4, Elisabeth Sherwood wrote:

 Really -- a flashmob isn't necessary! BIcycleSpace folks are more than 
 familiar with Rivendells (and all things BoBish).  Ed mentioning the topic 
 to Erik will be enough to put the possibility on his radar.

 (Feel free to join the shop on any of their weekend group rides on your 
 Riv, if you're so inclined.)

 Congratulations, Keith, on the upcoming new addition! (And, looking 
 forward to seeing what the Hunq looks like in person sometime in the 
 future.) Will be interesting to see how Riv responds to your query.

 Cheers,

 -- Liz S.



 On Wednesday, June 3, 2015 at 3:14:53 PM UTC-4, Kevin Lindsey wrote:

 Keith -
 Congrats on the new one.  If this is your first, then brace yourself and 
 get plenty of sleep while you can.
 I've had no problems with my Hunqapillar since you fixed the seat post a 
 couple of weeks back - it continues to be a work of art.  It was great 
 meeting you and I remain 

[RBW] Re: Local Rivendell Dealer suggestions for DELMARVA area?

[Alan Pickett]

Hi Folks - I cannot be trusted to handle my own checking account 
responsibly, much less make any claim to business acumen in the cut-throat, 
bottom-line world of bike sales, but I just looked at Grant's Blug post, 
dated May 26th:

* ...we’d also like your help in nominating dealers to maybe sell some 
Sams, and possibly Chevs and CLEMs later on. We’re too uppity to grovel 
ourselves, so if you know of a good local shop that’s already familiar with 
our work (maybe they’ve seen and admired your bike, if you have one of 
ours)—then contact them, refer them to this BLUG post, and we’ll take it 
from there. We want five good dealers in the country. Ideally they’d be in 
big cities with decent populations of riders, but if there’s a good, 
kindred shop in Turkeyscratch, Arkansas, we’re open to that, too.*

*Have the dealer contact Will if they are interested : **800 345-3918 **or 
**will 
at rivbike.com*

*OK. Much thanks for your help with this. There’s no “finders” fee, but the 
shop should still let us know who sent ‘em. *
Given the sense from some of you that Rivendell has historically made a 
conscious choice for direct sales, and that at least some shops may have 
found previous prospects of doing business with RBW unattractive, I wonder 
what it would be like to just take the above at face value, roll up with a 
coupla bikes or three to Bicycle Space http://www.bicyclespacedc.com/city/ 
like 
merchant emissaries of Venice, have a friendly chat, then let Riv take it 
from there as Grant proposes.

Bicycle Space sells Pashley, Linus, Handsome, Surly (also Felt, Bianci, 
Cannonale), but also euro-baskets and crane bells. 

There is also the well-known blogger Mary Gersemalina of Chasing Mailboxes 
http://chasingmailboxes.com/about-chasing-mailboxes/, herself a Rivendell 
Owner, and promoter of all things two-wheeled - please note that her 
profile pic for her blog features her seated atop a Quickbeam in front of 
the Capitol. Perhaps she would be enthusiastic.

The idea of a DC Pop-up sounds sort of cool, urban, and trendy, and perhaps 
relatively low risk on both sides.

I have to admit that Grant's post (We are too uppity to grovel 
ourselves...) doesn't make me exactly want to stick my neck out and pump 
the brand, but I would be happy to go with a couple of folks on what we 
might call an S2O (sub 2 hour outing) and show off a couple of bikes, maybe 
see if Mary is interested in joining?

Any interest from the Bunch

On Tuesday, June 2, 2015 at 10:12:30 AM UTC-4, Alan Pickett wrote:

 What to DC-centric folks think about helping develop a local dealer for 
 Riv Bikes, as requested a bug-post or two ago?

 I love the gang at Proteus Bikes in College Park, and I know that College 
 Park Bicycles has an affinity with Grant/Riv, but somehow I wonder if a 
 place like Bicycle Space - which just recently opened a new shop right 
 smack in downtown DC, might have real potential, by tapping into a well 
 moneyed, bike-commutin' crowd with consumer tastes just precious enough to 
 make the gorgeous lugs and paint on Riv Bikes a beacon of irresistible 
 attraction. Does anyone know the Bicycle Space people? Could we talk to 
 them?

 Either that, or a few of us could quit our day jobs and attempt to open a 
 bike store... I would assume that we would all become filthy stinking rich 
 in short order, right?

 Alan in Silver Spring


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Re: [RBW] Nominating Dealers for Sams and Clems

[Alan Pickett]

Oops - my posts are still moderated, so I idiotically started two posts on 
this topic when I didn't see my original post appear right away. Apologies! 
Here 
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/aj01ocA0nBA/CL3K3kSyEu8J 
is the link to the other post, which currently has a more responses and 
some robust discussion.

It's sort of like thinning carrots... 

On Wednesday, June 3, 2015 at 2:39:33 AM UTC-4, Lungimsam wrote:

 College Park Bikes and Mt Airy bikes are Rivish shops. 
 But I think the owner knows Grant personally so probable that it's no need 
 to inform RBW about them. 

 Why is RBW looking for dealers? I thought they don't do that anymore?

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[RBW] Re: Local Rivendell Dealer suggestions for DELMARVA area?

[Alan Pickett]

I have no way to answer or even effectively ponder and of the smart and 
thoughtful commentary here. I am also far too lazy to find out, and too engaged 
in my own life to care, but happily, none of these concerns are mine. I'm not 
think in' too hard here - as is my modus operandi in most things. I just 
reacted to grant's brief appeal , and thought of bicycle space. It's 
interesting - and maybe telling - that Keith at Bicycle Pro has already made an 
overture and has yet to hear back, so maybe that's all we need to know!

I can't however shake the image of how frigging sexy a black and cream double 
top tubed Hillborne would look in a display window, even if only for a weekend 
pop-up. Hell, I'd walk in the door! But maybe I'm just sexually confused...  :)

Anyway, Keith: have a blessed new beginning with the little one, and I'll stop 
by the shop next time my superhero wife has us ride the the rock creek 
park-Georgetown-Capitol Crescent circuit from Silver Spring! I'm nothing to 
brag about bike wise. Just trying to quit smoking and keep up with the Lady Who 
Makes Me Pedal. Have a lovely paternity leave, and congratulations!

Alan

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[RBW] Local Rivendell Dealer suggestions for DELMARVA area?

[Alan Pickett]

What to DC-centric folks think about helping develop a local dealer for Riv 
Bikes, as requested a bug-post or two ago?

I love the gang at Proteus Bikes in College Park, and I know that College 
Park Bicycles has an affinity with Grant/Riv, but somehow I wonder if a 
place like Bicycle Space - which just recently opened a new shop right 
smack in downtown DC, might have real potential, by tapping into a well 
moneyed, bike-commutin' crowd with consumer tastes just precious enough to 
make the gorgeous lugs and paint on Riv Bikes a beacon of irresistible 
attraction. Does anyone know the Bicycle Space people? Could we talk to 
them?

Either that, or a few of us could quit our day jobs and attempt to open a 
bike store... I would assume that we would all become filthy stinking rich 
in short order, right?

Alan in Silver Spring

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[RBW] Nominating Dealers for Sams and Clems

[Alan Pickett]

Grant's Blug post of May 26th appealed for help nominating bicycle shops - 
preferably in large markets - that might be interested in carrying Sams and 
Clems. Any thoughts on this from folks in the DC area? I love the folks at 
Proteus Cycles, and recall that College Park Bicycles has an affinity with 
Rivendell (Grant spoke there during his book tour), but I actually wondered if 
the newly moved Bicycle Space might be a great bet. It appears to really focus 
on practical cycling for commuters, carries products, gear and bikes (Surly, 
Linus,  Pashley) that have just the right amount of irreverence for the status 
quo, a little consumeristic snootiness for quality and brand, and are located 
smack downtown in DC in a recently acquired space - getting lots of exposure to 
well-moneyed folk to whom Riv might appeal on multiple levels. They also have a 
great community networking component - hosting plenty of just-ride style 
events.

Would it be interesting to travel as a group of friendly emissaries 
(Fremissaries!) on our bikes for a dog and pony show, to promote the idea of 
them carrying Clems/Sams? I don't know anyone there, perhaps others in DELMARVA 
do? (If we did so, I would secretly imagine myself as Marco Polo travelling to 
the court of Kublai Khan to talk up textiles and spices. You know, just for 
fun...)

I'm curious about whether folks in other areas that can imagine an existing 
brick and mortar shop selling Rivendells. Where in your neck of the woods can 
you easily imagine seeing a Rivendell Floor Model, complete with a floppy 
card-stock price tag dangling from a handlebar?

Alan in Silver Spring MD

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[RBW] WTT: 56 Hillborne for 55

[Alan Pickett]

Hi People - 

Just pinging the group to see if any of y'all have a 55cc hillborne and 
might be pining for something a smidge bigger. 
I have a double top tube 56 side pull sam, green, barely used but built up 
at the moment, and am really interested in sizing down a notch. 
Would be happy to discuss off list if this captures anyone's attention!

Al from Silver Spring

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[RBW] Re: Buy my 56cm Bombadil so I can get that Cheviot!

[Alan Pickett]

Wow. That bike practically smiles in your photos - I think it might be a 
golden retriever! It's a beauty, and I'm surprised you're not having to 
referee a bidding war, much less twiddling your thumbs and waiting by the 
phone! I love what Riv has done with the Cheviot, and relate to your 
rationale - hope things work out soon.

On Wednesday, October 1, 2014 12:00:19 AM UTC-4, Peter M wrote:

 Bump, price drop to $1300 Shipped. Thanks!

 On Thu, Sep 18, 2014 at 8:42 PM, Goshen Peter uscpet...@gmail.com 
 javascript: wrote:

 I love my bombadil, best bike ever but every time I throw my leg over 
 that top tube my lower back and hips hate me, add the kid on the back and 
 blergh. Long story short I have my mb2 and its a tad too small but good for 
 offroady stuff. So for sale now, hoping to get in on the green Cheviots is 
 my 56cm Bombadil, double TT, old style, new paint, included is the Paul 
 Brakes (Neo front, touring rear), needleblastr headset and 113 phil bb if 
 that fits buyers needs. Was looking for about 1400 shipped but can talk.  I 
 will also have the wheelset from this bike FS if the bike sells, Rich built 
 lx rear, Longleaf built shimano dynamo front. My Flikr page is crowded with 
 family stuff but will clean it up soon. Email me any questions, thanks! 

 https://www.flickr.com/photos/67889635@N06/8615933161/
  



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Re: [RBW] Blug Rack ID, please

[Alan Pickett]

That's two of us. If you have a welding torch, i'll look for some scrap steel, 
and we can fabricate something in my secret, dungeon laboratory, which is 
itself entirely fabricated. 

Cheers, al

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Re: [RBW] Blug Rack ID, please

[Alan Pickett]

Tim - Good eye! I called Jared at RBW, and it is the Nitto Campee 27f, sent 
to RBW as a sample without the lower pannier attachments. I think RBW is 
doing some thinking about potential designs. I've wanted to put a front 
rack on my hillborne for a minute now, and keep thinking that most of the 
designs use a diving board tang or threaded tube for the fork crown bolt 
hole with cantis. With the Hillborne, I'd love to have a mild-to moderate 
weight front rack - i.e., a little more beefy than Mark's - that was 
stable, but at this point, am not looking for panniers, and the example 
shown in the blog is exactly what i'm looking for. The Campee front - with 
the removable low-riders - looks awesome - but is a little more rackage 
than i'm in the market for right now. Would love to see a version of the 
rack pictured in the blug today sold as is! Thanks for hollering' back.

On Thursday, August 21, 2014 2:11:54 PM UTC-4, Tim Gavin wrote:

 It looks just like the Nitto Campee front rack, but without the attachment 
 points for the removable lowrider frames.


 Like it was a special order, with unique cross braces that lack the bolt 
 sockets.

 So, in comparison to a Campee front with the lowriders removed, you get a 
 cleaner look, a hair less weight, and hopefully a slightly lower price. 
  The current Campee front is an exceptional rack, with a commensurate price.


 On Wed, Aug 20, 2014 at 6:11 PM, Alan Pickett youbety...@gmail.com 
 javascript: wrote:

 Hi folks - 

 Would anyone be able to identify the front rack pictured in today's Blug, 
 featuring a peek at the upcoming Cheviot brochure? It looks a little bit 
 like Soma Champs Elysees, but I like the apparent ability to tie into 
 dropout eyelets and the fork for added stability. Thinking this might be a 
 moderate weight-bearing add on for my side-pull Hillborne. Happy Wednesday!

 Alan

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[RBW] Blug Rack ID, please

[Alan Pickett]

Hi folks - 

Would anyone be able to identify the front rack pictured in today's Blug, 
featuring a peek at the upcoming Cheviot brochure? It looks a little bit 
like Soma Champs Elysees, but I like the apparent ability to tie into 
dropout eyelets and the fork for added stability. Thinking this might be a 
moderate weight-bearing add on for my side-pull Hillborne. Happy Wednesday!

Alan

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