Re: [RBW] Cameras On Bikes

2024-05-16 Thread Bones
That’s a really cool bag, Nick. Thanks for sharing. Most handlebar bags 
I’ve come across are too large and bulky. This one is a great size and 
shape.

Bones

On Wednesday, May 15, 2024 at 11:50:07 PM UTC-4 Nick Payne wrote:

> On Thursday 16 May 2024 at 1:03:44 pm UTC+10 Chester wrote:
>
> Really appreciate bigger sensors being available in pocketable packages. I 
> don't ride in jerseys any more, so I haven't settled on the best way to 
> carry even a really compact camera like an RX100 or GR. Even when just 
> riding with my phone, with it in the pocket of a normal pair of shorts, 
> it's not a great to wrestle it out while pedaling. Have ridding a couple 
> times with the RX100 in a stem pouch and that's probably the best carry 
> option I've used so far. Ir maybe that sort of bag worn on a belt, or...a 
> fanny pack.
>
>
> For carrying phone/cameras, I've been using one of the Routewerks 
> handlebar bags for several years. I have a Quadlock mount on the lid, so 
> that's where my phone sits, which makes it extremely easy to grab for a 
> quick photo, and although the bag is quite small, there's enough room 
> inside for both my Leica Q2M and RX100 if I want to carry both. Being a 
> handlebar bag that's not supported underneath, it provides a degrees of 
> insulation from bumps and vibration:
>
> [image: DSC01063.jpg] [image: PXL_20240516_031441761.jpg]
>
> Nick Payne
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Re: [RBW] Cameras On Bikes

2024-05-15 Thread Bones
I typically leave my phone home when I go out for rides, unless I’m 
commuting to work. GR IIIx works well for me. It fits easily into a loosely 
cinched stem bag, where I can grab it whenever I want. I shoot exclusively 
in snap focus mode on this camera. Quick and easy. Occasionally I even take 
nice pictures.

Bones

On Wednesday, May 15, 2024 at 12:27:54 PM UTC-4 Patrick Moore wrote:

> I enjoy the sometimes very good quality (composition as well as 
> reproductive quality) of the photos shared on this list, so all you good 
> photographers please buy better cameras.
>
> Me, I'd like to learn how to take distance shots with an old iPhone, tho' 
> very possibly it's not possible. I tried to take a wide shot of Canada 
> geese and white (crested?) herons and various other wildfowl yesterday at a 
> nearby nature open space but the results were so poor that I had to discard 
> them. [I don't want an additional apparatus of a dedicated camera.]
>
> I remember there was an iBoblist fad back in the early aughts, before this 
> list existed, of taking bike ride photos with those very primitive and very 
> cheap early-Chinese manufacturing stick cameras that you could pick up for 
> $4 or even as free giveaways everywhere, then uploading them via some file 
> management system using a software with very primitive user interface. I 
> was surprised at the quality of some of these photos, including distance 
> and even panoramic shots; all these with unadjustable plastic lenses. Kent 
> Peterson IIRC posted some wonderful photos this way, and even I managed 
> some that were as good as most I take with my iPhone8. 
>
> On Wed, May 15, 2024 at 12:53 AM Keith P.  wrote:
>
>> “Bicycles” is a sport you can spend just about as much as you want to on 
>> - so it stands to reason that so many of you seem to be enamored with the 
>> “money-pit” hobby of photography as well.
>>
>> All of us have our phone cameras with us on bike rides, but do you have a 
>> secondary carry? How do you like it? Is this enough of a Rivendell related 
>> topic to merit being on here? Perhaps as long as we post photos of us 
>> taking photos, whilst *on* our bikes.
>>
>> Either way, I appreciated everyone’s responses on the hijacked *Springtime 
>> Photos *thread enough to compile some images:
>>
>> [image: Bracaglia-OlympusXA-04.jpeg]
>>
>> Keith Paugh - Olympus XA
>>
>> I recently picked up this little gem. It fits perfectly in the back 
>> pocket of a jersey. Maybe not the sharpest camera out there, but I’m not 
>> the sharpest photographer either. 
>>
>> [image: Olympuszoom80_CuteCameraCo_Front_1400x.jpeg]
>>
>> Ian M. - Olympus Stylus Epic
>>
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[RBW] Re: WTB Nitto 32F mini front rack

2024-05-13 Thread Bones
Rack secured, thanks all!

Bones

On Monday, May 13, 2024 at 3:04:20 PM UTC-4 Bones wrote:

> Thank you, Val. I just sent you a message.
>
> Bones
>
> On Monday, May 13, 2024 at 2:19:19 PM UTC-4 Valerie Yates wrote:
>
>> I do. In fact, I have two I've been intending to offer for sale.  $100 
>> each net to me via paypal or venmo includes shipping in the continental US. 
>> Shipping elsewhere negotiable. Nuts and bolts not included. 
>>
>> [image: PXL_20240513_181152653~2.jpg]
>>
>> [image: PXL_20240513_181201314.jpg]
>>
>>
>> Val in Boulder, CO
>>
>> On Monday, May 13, 2024 at 9:27:05 AM UTC-6 Bones wrote:
>>
>>> These are hard to come by these days. Does anybody have one they’d be 
>>> willing to part with?
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Bones
>>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: WTB Nitto 32F mini front rack

2024-05-13 Thread Bones
Thank you, Val. I just sent you a message.

Bones

On Monday, May 13, 2024 at 2:19:19 PM UTC-4 Valerie Yates wrote:

> I do. In fact, I have two I've been intending to offer for sale.  $100 
> each net to me via paypal or venmo includes shipping in the continental US. 
> Shipping elsewhere negotiable. Nuts and bolts not included. 
>
> [image: PXL_20240513_181152653~2.jpg]
>
> [image: PXL_20240513_181201314.jpg]
>
>
> Val in Boulder, CO
>
> On Monday, May 13, 2024 at 9:27:05 AM UTC-6 Bones wrote:
>
>> These are hard to come by these days. Does anybody have one they’d be 
>> willing to part with?
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Bones
>>
>

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[RBW] WTB Nitto 32F mini front rack

2024-05-13 Thread Bones
These are hard to come by these days. Does anybody have one they’d be 
willing to part with?

Thanks,
Bones

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[RBW] Re: New Sam Hillborne sizing advice

2024-05-06 Thread Bones
I’m 6’1 with a 91 PBH. My 60 Appaloosa fits perfectly with swept back bars. 
I had a 61.5 Homer (newer one, for which the top tube is really long) and 
it was way too much reach for drops for me (long legs, short torso, not 
particularly flexible). I replaced the 61.5 Homer with a 58 and the fit is 
perfect with 48cm noodles and a 7cm Tallux. I also have a 61 Roadini which 
fits well, but there is almost too much stack, as there is not much stem 
showing. I guess to summarize, it’s not always easy to find a bike in 
Rivs’s lineup that can accommodate both swept back bars and drops 
interchangeably. If you’re cool with drops on a stubby stem and less 
standover, size up. If you’re cool with swept backs on a long stem and more 
seatpost showing, size down. 

Bones

On Monday, May 6, 2024 at 8:36:03 AM UTC-4 Johnny Alien wrote:

> I find Rivendells sizing based on PBH to oversimplify getting a good bike 
> fit. They are very smart but they also have their preferences and I think 
> most of the time their suggestions lean on that preference more than it 
> should. The smaller size will be way easier to fit with drops if you really 
> think that will be something you want to do. I agree that you "could" make 
> a larger one work too but IMO its easier to get a sweptback setup to work 
> on a smaller frame than it is to get a dropdown setup to work on a frame 
> thats a touch big. If it were me and I rode a 57 and was comfortable on it 
> with sweptback bars then I would go for that one. BUT the best situation is 
> to find a 60 and give it a ride.
>
> On Monday, May 6, 2024 at 7:56:00 AM UTC-4 Tim Bantham wrote:
>
>> My recommendation is to go with the 60 Sam.  You said you want to ride 
>> with swept back bars and use it for mostly commuting and general riding. 
>> Based on your described use case I'd say go with the 60 all day long. If 
>> someday you want to ride the Sam with drops you could still do so with a 
>> short stem. 
>>
>> My PBH is 93.5. I ride a 62 Sam and a 58 MIT Homer. The only reason I 
>> sized down was because my focus for the Homer was going to be a drop bar 
>> road bike for sporty riding. The 61.5 Homer would have been too much reach 
>> for my situation. 
>>
>>
>>
>> On Monday, May 6, 2024 at 2:06:45 AM UTC-4 David B wrote:
>>
>>> Hey all, first time posting here. I'm planning on grabbing a Sam 
>>> Hillborne frameset when they go on sale this month. It'll be my first 
>>> Rivendell. I decided on the Hillborne as a replacement for my 56cm Cross 
>>> Check, which has never been comfortable for me. The short headtube puts the 
>>> bars too far below my saddle.
>>>
>>> I have a pair of Billie bars I'd like to put on the Hillborne for daily 
>>> commuting, grocery getting, and some light off road riding. I'd also like 
>>> to have the option to use drop bars at some point down the line.
>>>
>>> I went to the Rivendell shop a few weeks ago to test ride a few bikes 
>>> and get sized. I'm 6' with a 92 PBH (long legs, short torso), and based on 
>>> the Sam geo chart, my PBH puts me firmly in the size 60 Sam range. They 
>>> didn't have a 60 Hillborne around, so I instead rode a 57 Sam and a couple 
>>> of 61.5 Homers with different cockpit setups. 
>>>
>>>- The 57 Sam was set up with wide, swept back bars (Ron's Ortho 
>>>bars) and was comfortable. We did have to raise the seatpost up pretty 
>>> high 
>>>to get the saddle in a good position.
>>>- The first 61.5 Homer was set up with Billie bars and was also 
>>>comfortable. The saddle was pretty close to the top tube, however - 
>>> there 
>>>was maybe a little less than a fistful of seatpost showing.
>>>- The second 61.5 Homer with drops made me feel a little stretched 
>>>out. The saddle was raised up higher than ideal for my height, but the 
>>> bike 
>>>belonged to a staff member who wasn't around that day, and so we didn't 
>>>adjust the saddle position. Part of me thinks it might have worked with 
>>> a 
>>>lower saddle, shorter stem, and higher bars, but I'm not totally sure.
>>>
>>> I left feeling like a 60 Sam would work for me, but I'm now second 
>>> guessing whether it makes more sense to go down to the 57 for a shorter top 
>>> tube length. However, the size 57 Sam has a suggested PBH range of 86-89, 
>>> which is 3cm lower than my PBH of 92. 
>>>
>>> Could anyone share if you've had a similar experience being in-between 
>>> sizes for a Sam Hillborne, and how the size you chose worked out? 

[RBW] Re: WTB Mark's hub area rack with stabilizer hoop

2024-01-06 Thread Bones
PM sent.

Bones

On Saturday, January 6, 2024 at 12:14:35 PM UTC-5 Robert Blunt wrote:

> Hello everyone,
> I am wondering if anyone has a Nitto Mark's hub area rack with the 
> stabilizer hoop(MF2)  laying around. I am looking for one for my Saluki 
> build and Riv doesn't appear to have any at the moment. 
> Thanks,
> Robert Blunt
> Pennington NJ
>

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[RBW] Re: FS: Jumbo Rosco Bubbe Iditabike

2024-01-03 Thread Bones
I thought the day would never come! Really cool bike Kai. I'm sure you'll 
find it a new home.

Bones

On Wednesday, January 3, 2024 at 5:33:04 PM UTC-5 Kainalu V. -Brooklyn NY 
wrote:

> Multiple Roscos and multiple bills aren’t adding up, and ever since I put 
> it together, it hasn’t snowed. So here for sale is the bestest bike for 
> the larger folks out there. I think it measures 64 at the seat tube, but 
> I’ve got a geometry chart somewhere I’ll plug in here asap. 
> Pictures
> https://photos.app.goo.gl/U18G3VtrhaWFDisWA
> Some weird rare parts, some not. Heartily patinated racks with internally 
> wired dynamo lights and handmade wooden fenders (pretty lightweight 
> actually). Racks and fenders made by me, the front rack can carry anything 
> you can get into some panniers, with the rear rack only ever having held 
> that light there and the fender steady, as I’m hesitant to load up the back 
> of toptubeless frame. 
> I’m keeping the grips and the seat, but everything else you see is 
> included. Also included is a new Mavic 319 rim for when you’d like to swap 
> out the front. Rear wheel came with my Clem and hasn’t seen much of the 
> world.
> Very rare! Highly collectible?!
> $2000.
> Thanks for looking, and happy rolling to all
> -Kai
>
>
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[RBW] Re: ISO 32h dyno hub

2024-01-01 Thread Bones
PM sent.

Bones

On Monday, January 1, 2024 at 12:20:52 PM UTC-5 Josh C wrote:

> Does anyone happen to have a 32h 100mm dyno hub lying around? Want to 
> rebuild the wife's new Platyups front wheel. Silver would be preferred. 
> Thanks 

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Re: [RBW] Re: 26” MTB Tire Advice

2023-09-07 Thread Bones
Wow, I totally lost track of this. Thanks for the suggestions all. No, no 
sadly I do not have any friends with 26” tires hanging around. I guess I’m 
just looking for any good deals (sales, clearance, etc). I don’t have any 
number in mind, but I’d rather not shell out $70+ a tire for a bike that 
either way will not see much use. In southern NJ btw, outside of Philly.

Thanks!
Bones

On Saturday, August 26, 2023 at 10:07:16 AM UTC-4 ted.l...@gmail.com wrote:

> I’m a HUGE fan of the SimWorks Super Yummy. I’ve run them now on two 
> bikes, 26” and 29” and can say they’re some of my favorite tires. They’re a 
> bit pricier than other options, but they usually last me a year or two of 
> almost daily riding (call it somewhere between 5-6k miles). They do pick up 
> small pinholes from road debris once the center track wears down smooth but 
> if you’re not running tubeless, or you use a good sealant (I like orange 
> seal) they don’t cause any issue. They’re fast rolling on pavement and he’s 
> pack dirt and they’ve got good cornering grip on both surfaces as well. I 
> might advise against them on very muddy trails, but that never stopped me 
> (see the attached…)
>
>
>
> On Fri, Aug 25, 2023 at 11:14 PM Nick Shoemaker  
> wrote:
>
>> Good call - Ikon 2.2 is a goodie. Seems to last forever and was easier to 
>> mount tubeless than Schwalbes. I’d personally be sketched out with one on 
>> the front, but loved it as a rear tire in the summer.
>>
>>
>> On Aug 25, 2023, at 11:03 PM, Hoch in ut  wrote:
>>
>> A good all-around tire is the Maxxis Ikon in 26 x 2.2. Rolls pretty fast 
>> and has decent grip. I love it for XC rides. I put a pair on a 90’s 
>> Stumpjumper a couple of years ago. Great tire. Not that expensive, either. 
>>
>> On Friday, August 25, 2023 at 9:59:55 AM UTC-6 Bones wrote:
>>
>>> I recently pulled my wife’s old Cannondale F5 hardtail out of 
>>> hibernation with the intention of moving it along, but she now has a 
>>> renewed interest in it. It cleaned up nicely, but the tires are falling 
>>> apart. It looks like it can comfortably fit a 26x2.25, but I haven’t used a 
>>> 26” tire since the early 90’s so I don’t know where to start. If anyone can 
>>> point me to to a decent all around trail tire that doesn’t break the bank, 
>>> I’d greatly appreciate it.
>>>
>>> Bones
>>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Babies on bikes

2023-09-03 Thread Bones
For whatever reason I have never considered a trailer. I always assumed we 
could communicate and enjoy the ride better if the kids were on the bike 
with me. I started my oldest at nine months, which was when the tiniest 
helmet I could find would fit her massive head. The front mount seat is the 
best in my opinion. You can interact a lot more and they get to see 
everything you see. Once she outgrew that I moved her to a rear seat, and 
put lil man in the front. Eventually they reached the weight limits and I 
switched over to a cargo bike (Xtracycle Stoker). Now big sis, lil man and 
baby girl all fit on the back. We go everywhere on it. Love it. I was able 
to get rid of a car and I can accommodate all three kids easily.

Bones

On Sunday, September 3, 2023 at 12:06:31 PM UTC-4 SallyG wrote:

> We used a Burley double-wide when our kids were 2 and 3.5...We hooked it 
> to my husband's old Giant mountain bike. Traffic was non-existent or very 
> light since we lived on a small island. The kids liked it because they 
> could bring various stuffed animals, so we could get a long-ish ride in 
> ...When we moved to San Diego, the trailer seemed too wide for the streets 
> so we got a Tag-a-long...it didn't seem as safe and, by that time, the kids 
> wanted to ride their own bikes...so we didn't use it much. (P.S. I'm 
> another nurse...seems like nurses choose Rivendell, ha!)
>
> On Saturday, September 2, 2023 at 6:28:45 PM UTC-7 Patrick Moore wrote:
>
>> +1 for a trailer. One advantage of a trailer is that you can use it with 
>> a bike that is not well suited for a heavy load on the rear rack; and I 
>> agree, they don't change the handling and feel of the bike as much as a big 
>> and high rear-rack weight does. And they allow easier mounting.
>>
>> Mine was a "doublewide" and let me combine child hauling with grocery 
>> shopping: my daughter and I would combine bicycle fun with grocery shopping 
>> on Saturday mornings, she on one side, the paper grocery sacks on the 
>> other, usually with a helium balloon or two in our slipstream.
>>
>> My tractor was a early-edition Raleigh Technium sports tourer, a tank 
>> with long stays and flexy tubes stuck into gaspipe lugs, but with 32 mm 
>> tires (fat at the time, early '00s) it was very plush. I had it set up with 
>> a 67" fixed gear, just right: low enough to grunt Catie and groceries up 
>> minor hills or pull the doublewide against headwinds, fast enough to keep 
>> up with modest tailwinds.
>>
>> You don't need a name brand. I forget what I had; it was decent but not a 
>> Burley or a Thule; Avocet? It worked fine and by the time you get to the 
>> point of experiencing the longevity of an expensive brand your child has 
>> long outgrown it. I did later get a used Burley trail-a-bike but by the 
>> time my daughter was old enough to ride it she was embarrassed to be seen 
>> on it and demanded her own bike.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sat, Sep 2, 2023 at 7:05 PM Eliot Balogh  wrote:
>>
>>> A trailer is the safest option. If you go that route I would consider a 
>>> Thule or older Chariot (these can be had very inexpensively). They have 
>>> weight adjustable suspension and you can use an infant sling. The general 
>>> age recommendation is to wait until 12-18 months but we certainly started 
>>> closer to 6 months (My wife and I are both nurse practitioners and got the 
>>> Ok from his pediatrician). It will very from child to child but once they 
>>> are demonstrating strong head and neck control they should be ok in an 
>>> infant sling.
>>>
>>> I personally prefer a Thule Maxi seat on a rack behind me. It’s just 
>>> nice not having to deal with the weight and logistics of a trailer. We only 
>>> just started doing that on our Cargo E bike now that he’s 16 months and 
>>> gets to ride to daycare. 
>>>
>>> Eliot
>>>
>>> On Sat, Sep 2, 2023 at 5:54 PM Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! <
>>> jonasa...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi Kushan,
>>>>
>>>> Oh, I so know that excitement you feel about introducing your baby to 
>>>> biking. It’s wonderful that you want to share it and it will be such a 
>>>> bonding experience between the both of you as he grows up.
>>>>
>>>> Is the plan to put him in a bike seat on your bike? Or in a cargo bike? 
>>>> In a car seat inside a cargo bike? I think the last option is the only one 
>>>> I could safely recommend, and maybe not even that. I am a nurse, and I 
>>>> won’t ever forget the part of our pediatrics training that 

[RBW] 26” MTB Tire Advice

2023-08-25 Thread Bones
I recently pulled my wife’s old Cannondale F5 hardtail out of hibernation 
with the intention of moving it along, but she now has a renewed interest 
in it. It cleaned up nicely, but the tires are falling apart. It looks like 
it can comfortably fit a 26x2.25, but I haven’t used a 26” tire since the 
early 90’s so I don’t know where to start. If anyone can point me to to a 
decent all around trail tire that doesn’t break the bank, I’d greatly 
appreciate it.

Bones

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Re: [RBW] Re: Wheel Builder

2023-08-12 Thread Bones
I do not have a DT 240 but I do have most of the other ones listed: Silver, 
Deore, MI5, Onyx. I'm not a big fan of loud hubs and I found my MI5 
obnoxiously loud; I was having difficultly having conversations with my 
riding friends while coasting. I took the hub apart and applied a generous 
amount of Phil's Tenacious Oil and it now sounds like a different hub. Much 
much quieter and quite tolerable.

Bones

On Saturday, August 12, 2023 at 6:59:43 AM UTC-4 Josh C wrote:

> The noise of the White Ind Mi5 does concern me to some degree. Curious 
> does anyone have both a DT 240 and a White ind. Mi5 to compare the noise 
> level? I've got a DT 240 on a bike and would rather nothing louder than 
> that. 
>
> On Saturday, August 12, 2023 at 6:56:26 AM UTC-4 Josh C wrote:
>
>> @Johnny, Keith: Thanks for the replies. I've had several wheel sets built 
>> by Rich at hands on wheels. I may go that route and shoot him an email. I'm 
>> pretty sure the wheels that I'm currently riding are from Rich. 
>>
>> @Keith, Will, Garth: Not sure about the silver hubs. It'd think that if 
>> it were simply out of stock, it'd say "out of stock" just like half of the 
>> items on the Riv site. I had a silver hub on a Clem a few years ago and 
>> liked it just fine. I was thinking of having the rear built with a Silver 
>> 36h but then didn't see em on the site. Odd. 
>>
>>
>>
>> On Friday, August 11, 2023 at 4:39:37 PM UTC-4 Garth wrote:
>>
>>> There's little choice for quiet hubs so if you need 36 you may as well 
>>> go with Deore's. For myself having a quiet hub is non-negotiable, so I've 
>>> gone back to using threaded FW hubs for my future builds. The irony is that 
>>> for the 7 cogs I use there's a better selection of freewheels these days 
>>> than cassettes. Rich will build you fine wheels. I had him build a set of 
>>> Alex DM24 rims with Deore/Suntour hubs for me but I've never used them. I 
>>> also have 2 sets of Joe Young wheels. (He formerly built wheels for Riv 
>>> way beck when before Rich.) He's in Granbury Texas, youngwheels.com 
>>> I think. I still ride the first set he built in 1999, and of course, 
>>> they're as straight as an arrow. 
>>>
>>> There's many things that Riv has that aren't on the menu as I think 
>>> they're busy enough as it is and don't have much time for extensive upkeep 
>>> of the website in totality. The "new" 7sp cassette hub was supposedly 
>>> coming sometime, but as for noise I'd be surprised if it was quiet. Shimano 
>>> is by their own words ditching most of their road and mtb groups in favor 
>>> of the deathly black "Ican'tremember" line of bike parts that supposed can 
>>> be used for road or mtb use. Of course, it was Shimano who messed things up 
>>> by dividing them in the first place with different cable pulls. 
>>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: FS: Cliffhanger Tandem/Cargo Wheelset

2023-08-07 Thread Bones
Wheels are sold, thanks all!

Bones

On Monday, August 7, 2023 at 7:47:31 AM UTC-4 Justin Kennedy wrote:

> Thanks all! Bones a friend may be reaching out about the wheels  cheers-
>
> On Sunday, August 6, 2023 at 7:30:49 PM UTC-4 Bones wrote:
>
>> Appreciate the input. To clarify: the wheels will work on any frame with 
>> 100/135 spacing. I used them on my Clem for a bit and they worked great.
>>
>> Bones
>>
>> On Sunday, August 6, 2023 at 6:34:29 PM UTC-4 Wesley wrote:
>>
>>> Tandem rear wheels typically have 145mm spacing, wider than the typical 
>>> 135mm spacing of non-tandem rear wheels, and closer to modern "fat bikes". 
>>> Some adaptation may be possible, I don't know.
>>> -Wes
>>>
>>> On Sunday, August 6, 2023 at 3:21:26 PM UTC-7 Bones wrote:
>>>
>>>> Yes. A 56 Susie takes a 29" tire. Somebody please correct me if I am 
>>>> wrong.
>>>>
>>>> Bones
>>>>
>>>> On Sunday, August 6, 2023 at 3:25:56 PM UTC-4 Justin Kennedy wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Sorry maybe a dumb question but would these work with QR on a 56cm 
>>>>> Susie?
>>>>>
>>>>> On Saturday, August 5, 2023 at 7:38:38 PM UTC-4 Bones wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Knew I'd miss something. 29ers!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks, 
>>>>>> Bones
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Saturday, August 5, 2023 at 7:19:15 PM UTC-4 Wesley wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi Bones, 
>>>>>>> What wheel size, please?
>>>>>>> -Wes
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Saturday, August 5, 2023 at 12:08:51 PM UTC-7 Bones wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I bought these from Velocity a few years ago. I replaced the front 
>>>>>>>> hub with a Shimano dynamo. 40H rear, 36H front. Both rims have 
>>>>>>>> machined 
>>>>>>>> sidewalls. The rear has a bolt-on rotor mount, the front is centerlock 
>>>>>>>> (dust cover included).They are black but they have a subtle color to 
>>>>>>>> them, 
>>>>>>>> can't quite explain it. I think they look cool. Hopefully the pictures 
>>>>>>>> show 
>>>>>>>> it. They haven't seen all that much use. Skewers included. $400 
>>>>>>>> shipped (or 
>>>>>>>> best offer) lower 48.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> [image: wheels01.jpg][image: wheels02.jpg][image: wheels03.jpg][image: 
>>>>>>>> wheels04.jpg]
>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>> Bones
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>

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[RBW] Re: FS: Cliffhanger Tandem/Cargo Wheelset

2023-08-06 Thread Bones
Appreciate the input. To clarify: the wheels will work on any frame with 
100/135 spacing. I used them on my Clem for a bit and they worked great.

Bones

On Sunday, August 6, 2023 at 6:34:29 PM UTC-4 Wesley wrote:

> Tandem rear wheels typically have 145mm spacing, wider than the typical 
> 135mm spacing of non-tandem rear wheels, and closer to modern "fat bikes". 
> Some adaptation may be possible, I don't know.
> -Wes
>
> On Sunday, August 6, 2023 at 3:21:26 PM UTC-7 Bones wrote:
>
>> Yes. A 56 Susie takes a 29" tire. Somebody please correct me if I am 
>> wrong.
>>
>> Bones
>>
>> On Sunday, August 6, 2023 at 3:25:56 PM UTC-4 Justin Kennedy wrote:
>>
>>> Sorry maybe a dumb question but would these work with QR on a 56cm Susie?
>>>
>>> On Saturday, August 5, 2023 at 7:38:38 PM UTC-4 Bones wrote:
>>>
>>>> Knew I'd miss something. 29ers!
>>>>
>>>> Thanks, 
>>>> Bones
>>>>
>>>> On Saturday, August 5, 2023 at 7:19:15 PM UTC-4 Wesley wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi Bones, 
>>>>> What wheel size, please?
>>>>> -Wes
>>>>>
>>>>> On Saturday, August 5, 2023 at 12:08:51 PM UTC-7 Bones wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I bought these from Velocity a few years ago. I replaced the front 
>>>>>> hub with a Shimano dynamo. 40H rear, 36H front. Both rims have machined 
>>>>>> sidewalls. The rear has a bolt-on rotor mount, the front is centerlock 
>>>>>> (dust cover included).They are black but they have a subtle color to 
>>>>>> them, 
>>>>>> can't quite explain it. I think they look cool. Hopefully the pictures 
>>>>>> show 
>>>>>> it. They haven't seen all that much use. Skewers included. $400 shipped 
>>>>>> (or 
>>>>>> best offer) lower 48.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> [image: wheels01.jpg][image: wheels02.jpg][image: wheels03.jpg][image: 
>>>>>> wheels04.jpg]
>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>> Bones
>>>>>>
>>>>>

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[RBW] Re: FS: Cliffhanger Tandem/Cargo Wheelset

2023-08-06 Thread Bones
Yes. A 56 Susie takes a 29" tire. Somebody please correct me if I am wrong.

Bones

On Sunday, August 6, 2023 at 3:25:56 PM UTC-4 Justin Kennedy wrote:

> Sorry maybe a dumb question but would these work with QR on a 56cm Susie?
>
> On Saturday, August 5, 2023 at 7:38:38 PM UTC-4 Bones wrote:
>
>> Knew I'd miss something. 29ers!
>>
>> Thanks, 
>> Bones
>>
>> On Saturday, August 5, 2023 at 7:19:15 PM UTC-4 Wesley wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Bones, 
>>> What wheel size, please?
>>> -Wes
>>>
>>> On Saturday, August 5, 2023 at 12:08:51 PM UTC-7 Bones wrote:
>>>
>>>> I bought these from Velocity a few years ago. I replaced the front hub 
>>>> with a Shimano dynamo. 40H rear, 36H front. Both rims have machined 
>>>> sidewalls. The rear has a bolt-on rotor mount, the front is centerlock 
>>>> (dust cover included).They are black but they have a subtle color to them, 
>>>> can't quite explain it. I think they look cool. Hopefully the pictures 
>>>> show 
>>>> it. They haven't seen all that much use. Skewers included. $400 shipped 
>>>> (or 
>>>> best offer) lower 48.
>>>>
>>>> [image: wheels01.jpg][image: wheels02.jpg][image: wheels03.jpg][image: 
>>>> wheels04.jpg]
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> Bones
>>>>
>>>

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[RBW] Re: FS: Cliffhanger Tandem/Cargo Wheelset

2023-08-05 Thread Bones
Knew I'd miss something. 29ers!

Thanks, 
Bones

On Saturday, August 5, 2023 at 7:19:15 PM UTC-4 Wesley wrote:

> Hi Bones, 
> What wheel size, please?
> -Wes
>
> On Saturday, August 5, 2023 at 12:08:51 PM UTC-7 Bones wrote:
>
>> I bought these from Velocity a few years ago. I replaced the front hub 
>> with a Shimano dynamo. 40H rear, 36H front. Both rims have machined 
>> sidewalls. The rear has a bolt-on rotor mount, the front is centerlock 
>> (dust cover included).They are black but they have a subtle color to them, 
>> can't quite explain it. I think they look cool. Hopefully the pictures show 
>> it. They haven't seen all that much use. Skewers included. $400 shipped (or 
>> best offer) lower 48.
>>
>> [image: wheels01.jpg][image: wheels02.jpg][image: wheels03.jpg][image: 
>> wheels04.jpg]
>> Thanks,
>> Bones
>>
>

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[RBW] Re: ISO Roadini...or?

2023-07-29 Thread Bones
Thanks! The saddle height in that picture is probably between 79-80.

Bones

On Friday, July 28, 2023 at 12:55:05 PM UTC-4 jhri...@gmail.com wrote:

> Bones, that's a beautiful Roadini build. Could I ask your saddle height? 
> I'm 78.5ish with an 89.5 PBH and having a difficult time deciding between 
> frames myself.
>
> On Friday, July 21, 2023 at 1:46:37 PM UTC-4 JohnS wrote:
>
>> Hello Peter,
>>
>> Wow, an '81 Sequoia! Those are very rare since only about 700 were made 
>> by hand. In '82 is when production ramped up. Please post a picture if you 
>> can.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> John
>>
>>
>> On Friday, July 21, 2023 at 11:58:26 AM UTC-4 eric...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> Very nice build, Bones!  B) 
>>>
>>> On Friday, July 21, 2023 at 11:05:30 AM UTC-4 Bones wrote:
>>>
>>>> I started with an Appaloosa, which I built as a workhorse to ferry my 
>>>> kids around. I wanted something without all the racks and utility so I 
>>>> purchased a Hillborne. Great bike, but I found it too similar to my 
>>>> Appaloosa so I moved it along and bought a Roadini. It was exactly what I 
>>>> was looking for. No, it is not a delicate, lightweight bike. That is to my 
>>>> benefit, as I can do stupid things to it without worrying about it being 
>>>> damaged. It is a Rivendell, and it rides like all of my other Rivendells. 
>>>> It currently resides at my parents' house, and I make a point to ride it 
>>>> whenever I visit. I love that bike.
>>>>
>>>> [image: roadini2.jpg]
>>>>
>>>> Bones
>>>>
>>>> On Friday, July 21, 2023 at 1:49:48 AM UTC-4 chasenl...@gmail.com 
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> [image: IMG_4997.jpeg]
>>>>>
>>>>> I am about 200 miles into my orange-ass roadini and I love it. Set up 
>>>>> with a23s, dirt drops, cavas and an analog 30mm stem. It is not flexy and 
>>>>> light like my rb 2. It is no sports car. Its like a benz, smooth and 
>>>>> comfy. 
>>>>> I have a 90 stumpjumper (that I’m convinced could be the worlds greatest 
>>>>> bicycle), and the roadini is v similar, minus canti post, add practical 
>>>>> geometry. It is definitely stout, which makes the lack of rack mounts 
>>>>> annoying, but its not t stout. To me, it feels like a road tourer, 
>>>>> not 
>>>>> a zippy speed machine. I think a crust mallochio or lightning bolt might 
>>>>> be 
>>>>> lighter/flexier/zippier. 
>>>>> On Wednesday, July 19, 2023 at 10:03:16 PM UTC-4 Doug H. wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> This paragraph is from Will's recent email... If this sounds like 
>>>>>> what you're looking for then I say buy one. 
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "Yes, the Roadini is heavier than a carbon frame, but, and even 
>>>>>> though it's a cliche phrase at this point, *it rides light* and I 
>>>>>> don't care if I'm two minutes slower than my alternate-universe self who 
>>>>>> rides a carbon bike. I still feel fast on it, and I'm not racing anybody 
>>>>>> anyway, even myself. My bike priorities are safety, comfort, 
>>>>>> reliability, 
>>>>>> and the ability to stretch the bike beyond it's stated purpose. Most of 
>>>>>> you 
>>>>>> aren't able to come test ride one before you buy, but those that do 
>>>>>> invariably say something like, "it's faster than I thought it would 
>>>>>> be!". 
>>>>>> It's always been more about the rider than the frame, but I know what 
>>>>>> they 
>>>>>> mean."
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Doug
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Wednesday, July 19, 2023 at 9:14:40 PM UTC-4 brenton...@gmail.com 
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I have really fallen for these luscious new Roadini builds I've seen 
>>>>>>> at Riv and Blue Lug.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I have a Sam Hillborne and love it. It's been through several 
>>>>>>> iterations of cockpit/racks/bags/brakes/wheels/tires and all have been 
>>>>>>> really fun. Right now it has flat bars with sweep, chunky 47mm tires, 
>>>>>>> and 
>>>>>>> is an excellent all around adventure/trail/camping ride. It's currently 
>>>>>>> my 
>>>>>>> only bike!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Before the Sam, I rode 90s road bikes exclusively for 20 years, and 
>>>>>>> those worked great for city/commuting/neighborhood/pub rides. I've 
>>>>>>> heard 
>>>>>>> that the Roadini does NOT offer that kind of 
>>>>>>> ride/speed/feel/handling/gusto/whatever, from several folks in this 
>>>>>>> group.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> So am I fooling myself into thinking another $2500 Riv build is 
>>>>>>> going to scratch the itch? Or should I buy a <$500 Japanese Road Bike 
>>>>>>> that 
>>>>>>> can hold 33s and actually feel some performance?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>

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[RBW] Re: Homer Sizing Question

2023-06-25 Thread Bones
My PBH is 91.5. I bought a 61.5 Homer based on Riv recommended sizing but 
it never felt great with drops. It's just too long. I also have 61 Roadini 
and it fits great with drops, and when I compared that with the newer 58 
Homer, I found that the reach was actually very similar. The Homer just has 
a little less stack, which isn't a problem for me. So I downsized to the 58 
(the gold color pushed me over the edge) and have been very happy with the 
fit. There is a little more seat post showing than I am accustomed to but 
it looks fine. I have 62 Romanceur as well, which fits great, but I never 
ride it anymore. I will get around to moving both of those bikes along at 
some point. I vote 58.

Bones

On Saturday, June 24, 2023 at 12:52:04 PM UTC-8 CoalTrain wrote:

> Thanks Bill. That's the conclusion I'm coming to as well.
>
> On Saturday, June 24, 2023 at 3:29:38 PM UTC-5 Bill Lindsay wrote:
>
>> The numbers are there to run, but my expectation is that if you ran the 
>> numbers, you would find the 58 Homer would be closer to the XL Romanceur.  
>> The 58 Homer might even be a little bit "bigger" than the XL Romanceur, in 
>> pure Stack and Reach land.  
>>
>> Bill Lindsay
>> El Cerrito, CA
>>
>> On Saturday, June 24, 2023 at 12:58:45 PM UTC-7 CoalTrain wrote:
>>
>>> I'm kicking around the idea of getting a Homer to go with my Platypus 
>>> and Romanceur. I have a PBH of roughly 90cm and probably go with a 61.5 or 
>>> 58. I would like the option to ride drops but am worried if I go 61.5 it 
>>> will be too big and if I go 58 it will be too small. I currently ride as my 
>>> road bike a XL Romanceur and it fits perfect; I could actually stretch out 
>>> a little if I had a longer stem then the 80 nitto I have on the Rom. Has 
>>> anybody else been in this situation? Did you go big and get drops to work?
>>
>>

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Re: [RBW] 60cm Appaloosa Standover

2023-03-24 Thread Bones
60cm Appaloosa: 700x55 Fleecer Ridge = ~89.5cm standover

Bones

On Thursday, March 23, 2023 at 8:15:08 PM UTC-4 Tom Horton wrote:

> for what it's worth, standover on my app 62 (double top bars) is 91cm
>
> running 38mm compass barlow pass tires.
>
>
> On Thu, Mar 23, 2023 at 8:08 PM DamonLee  wrote:
>
>> Wondering if someone could measure the standover height on their 60cm 
>> Appaloosa?
>> (also knowing what tire size you are running would be great too!)
>> Thank you in advance!
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[RBW] Re: Crust Harvey Mushman Bars?

2023-03-19 Thread Bones
I did that exact thing on my Xtracycle Stoker. I went with the 24 degree 
bars and trimmed maybe 2-3cm(?) from either end. I don't remember how long 
the stem is but its more than 5cm. Maybe 8-10cm. I love 'em. I think you 
will too. I also have another pair I plan on using for a future MTB 
build someday.

Bones

On Sunday, March 19, 2023 at 9:04:41 AM UTC-4 Justin Kennedy (Brooklyn, NY) 
wrote:

> I'm looking for some bars for a new cargo bike build (Surly Big Dummy) and 
> was intrigued when I saw Will was using Crust's Harvey Mushman bars 
> <https://crustbikes.com/products/harvey-mushman-riser-bar> on his new 
> tandem 
> <https://www.rivbike.com/blogs/news/will-and-rachels-medium-hubbuhubbuh>. 
>
> Does anyone have experience with these bars, particularly the 24 degree 
> backsweep version? I think I would want to cut them down to 680-ish rather 
> than the stock 800mm as that seems entirely too wide for urban riding. I'm 
> also concerned about getting enough backsweep. Assuming I"ll use a stubby 
> stem (50mm or shorter). 
>
> Would love to hear your thoughts if you've used these bars. 
>

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[RBW] Re: SON Hub & B+M Micro Taillight: must be wired to the front light?

2023-03-17 Thread Bones
It plugs right in. I think they are just trying to tell you not to run a 
taillight by itself, directly off of the dynamo. They are not designed to 
do that. I have several different dynamos with varying headlamp/taillight 
configurations and they all work the same: taillight plugs into the 
headlamp.

Regards,
Bones

On Thursday, March 16, 2023 at 10:55:30 PM UTC-4 Matthew Williams wrote:

> Hi everyone,
>
> I have a SON dynamo front hub, with an Edelux II headlight. I was planning 
> to get the  Busch + Muller “Micro” (µ) taillight:
>
>
> https://www.bumm.de/de/produkte/dynamo-rucklichter/parent/332/produkt/332alk-silber-332alk-01-schwarz.html
>
> Elsewhere, I read this particular taillight 
> "The µ is designed to be powered from the front light only"
> "This light must be wired to a front light, and should not be run directly 
> off a dynamo hub”
>
> I have several questions:
>
> Is this setup inadvisable/poorly-considered?
> Will the taillight sap power from the headlight?
> Is the B+M Micro compatible with the Edelux II and SON hub?
> Has anyone done this setup (SON hub, Edelux II, B+M Micro)? 
> Does this setup require special customization?
> What should I know before getting this taillight and setting it up?
>
> As always, your sage advice, experience, wisdom, and recommendations are 
> welcomed and appreciated.
>
>

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[RBW] LF 58 Homer

2023-02-01 Thread Bones
I've had a 61.5 Homer from the latest batch for just over a year now, and 
although I love the bike, the reach is just too great for my purposes. I am 
pretty much forced into swept back bars, and that is not what I am looking 
for with this bike. After a call to Riv and a peek on bikeinsights, it 
looks like the 58 would give me the perfect reach, with just a little extra 
seatpost showing. If anyone has a 58 from the latest batch they'd like to 
part with (or upsize), PM me. A 61.5 from the previous batch would work as 
well, though I am partial to the DT shifter braze-ons on the newest batch.

Thanks!
Bones

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Re: [RBW] Which Paul brakes for a Quickbeam or Simple One?

2023-01-12 Thread Bones
If you aren't doing fenders then I vote Minimotos. I was able to 
comfortably fit Snoqualmie's with VO Zeppelin 52mm fenders on my Simpleone, 
but in that scenario you definitely need cantis.

I have the Minimoto up front and Touring Canti in the rear set up on a 
different single speed (one that does have a rear brake bridge, unlike my 
Simpleone) and that setup works great as well.

The Minimotos are insanely strong brakes in my experience.

Bones

On Wednesday, January 11, 2023 at 9:22:52 PM UTC-5 jasonz...@gmail.com 
wrote:

> another vote for the touring Canti rear/ Neo retro front set up, I had it 
> on my simple one and now on my QB and love the power modulation and look... 
> its a stunner
>
> On Wednesday, January 11, 2023 at 7:50:15 PM UTC-6 JohnS wrote:
>
>> Thank you everyone for the tips/advice. I'm not planning to have a rear 
>> rack on this bike, so the brake arm extension isn't an issue. Also I may or 
>> may not mount the fenders that I have, my Crust LB-canti has them so not a 
>> priority to have them on the QB.
>>
>> Patch, so how do you like the touring/minimoto combination? Would say it 
>> was better or as good as other brake set ups?
>>
>> Thanks,
>> JohnS
>>
>> On Wednesday, January 11, 2023 at 2:56:39 PM UTC-5 Patch T wrote:
>>
>>> I use Paul's Touring on the rear and Minimotos on the front on my QB. 
>>> The Minimotos clear a VO Smooth 45mm fender just fine.
>>> I agree that not using the canti stop bridge on the rear is a little 
>>> sad, but one could get creative and mount a light there if you preferred to 
>>> run a Minimoto on the rear as well.
>>>
>>> Patch in NYC
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, January 11, 2023 at 11:44:55 AM UTC-8 Benjamin Kelley 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> When I was starting my design process for Paul braking my Quickbeam 
>>>> everyone said to put touring on the rear.
>>>> I measured my heel clearance and decided for my bike and fit, that 
>>>> touring would be unnecessary and neo-retro's would clear fine.
>>>> However, a set of used touring in my preferred color came up either 
>>>> here or i-bob first, so I ended up going with them anyways.
>>>> Definitely measure before you buy tho if you are only considering the 
>>>> touring for clearance problems, it might not be an issue for you.
>>>>
>>>> --ben
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Jan 11, 2023 at 1:19 PM iamkeith  wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Since the Quickbeam has a nice, built-in cable hanger at the rear 
>>>>> (whereas the Simple One relies on an ad-on hanger installed at the 
>>>>> seatpost 
>>>>> clamp bolt), I think it's nice to use canti brakes.  Just my opinion.  I 
>>>>> had wide profile brakes, like the neo-retro, both front and rear on my 
>>>>> Quickbeam (and will again when I finish rebuilding it) and never had heel 
>>>>> clearance problems.   I do have another bike where I needed to use the 
>>>>> touring on the rear with the neo retro on the front.
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wednesday, January 11, 2023 at 12:01:17 PM UTC-7 eliot...@gmail.com 
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Why not do the motolite V brakes ? I bet they rock
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Wed, Jan 11, 2023 at 10:19 AM Drew Henson  
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Also depends on if you want to run fenders. I don't think the 
>>>>>>> minimotos have all that much clearance depending on tire size.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Wednesday, January 11, 2023 at 10:06:49 AM UTC-8 JohnS wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Thank you Mark, good to know.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Wednesday, January 11, 2023 at 1:04:13 PM UTC-5 
>>>>>>>> esoter...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> John,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> The Paul Minomotos are actually short-pull calipers, so you can 
>>>>>>>>> use the same short-pull levers that you would use with the 
>>>>>>>>> touring/neo-retro cantilevers. The Paul Motolites are the ones that 
>>>>>>>>> use 
>>>>>>>>> long-pull levers. 
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> ~Mark
>>>>>>>>> Raleigh, NC
>>&

[RBW] Re: It's my custom

2022-09-17 Thread Bones
Where are the streamers, bro!? Otherwise it looks great Joe. I looked at 
your bike more than once while designing my wife's Platypus last year. 
Looks like a fun bike.

Bones

On Friday, September 16, 2022 at 11:56:23 PM UTC-4 Joe Bernard wrote:

> Made a couple changes, felt like showing it. 
>
> Swapped the DirtDrop stem for an 11cm FacePlater, was able to move the 
> Billies a smidge forward, moved the Brooks a bit forward too (not as much), 
> I feel more "in the middle" of the bike now. I should have taken the bar 
> bag off so you can see the stem. 
>
> Swapped the RBW51 rack for a Nitto Big Rack, it looks kinda way back there 
> for a bag support but I'm going to get at least one shopper pannier for... 
> shopping. 
>
> Love this bike, don't know how someone could show up on the Riv Instagram 
> and tell me I ride a "girl's bike" but that's what happened yesterday. Hey 
> bro, check out my girl's bike! ‍♂️
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Re: [RBW] WTB, maybe - Boscomoose Handlebar

2022-08-26 Thread Bones

That’s a 58cm boscomoose.

Bones 
On Friday, August 26, 2022 at 9:56:05 AM UTC-4 Bones wrote:

> [image: FFADD4E1-814E-4B0A-8C03-F4B5E2D6D424.jpeg][image: 
> 9BA6DC00-FD9E-4D89-BD6A-66E4BC8F7520.jpeg][image: 
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>
>
>
> On Friday, August 26, 2022 at 9:51:31 AM UTC-4 James wrote:
>
>> There's a tosco-moose bar for sale in Ashevilles, NC craigslist page. 
>>  Maybe you could ask them to ship?
>>
>> On Friday, August 26, 2022 at 9:32:46 AM UTC-4 rmro...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> That 120 sounds more realistic - they don’t look like 150? I suspect the 
>>> built in rise of the ‘moose is less than what you get with a FacePlater 
>>> which I think angles up at 10 degrees. I currently have 130mm of stem 
>>> showing above the locknut.
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>> On Aug 26, 2022, at 12:12 AM, Joe Bernard  wrote:
>>>
>>> I'm 99% sure that reach number is wrong, my Boscomoose was about 120. 
>>> And it was tall as heck with the 190 quill, Boscos are TALL bars..I'd be 
>>> very surprised if you needed 230mm of quill unless the bike it's going on 
>>> is really short. 
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thursday, August 25, 2022 at 7:54:34 PM UTC-7 rmro...@gmail.com 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Yeah, I just saw that Soma page. Too long of extension & too short a 
>>>> quill. Dangit! They just look so cool. 
>>>> Thanks
>>>>
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>
>>>> On Aug 25, 2022, at 10:50 PM, Danny  wrote:
>>>>
>>>> 
>>>>
>>>> Hi Richard,
>>>>
>>>> According to Soma 
>>>> <https://www.somafabshop.com/shop/product/nitto-handlebar-stem-b909-rivendell-bosco-bull-moose-2762>'s
>>>>  
>>>> listing for the Boscomoose  the "Stem has about 150mm reach and 190mm long 
>>>> quill".  I believe the Riv FacePlater has a 230mm quill length. Wish I had 
>>>> a Boscomoose to trade you for that FacePlater. If you decide to sell it, 
>>>> please get in touch!
>>>>
>>>> -Danny
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Aug 25, 2022 at 9:23 PM Richard Rose  wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> After swapping out my Tosco for a Bosco, I think I might want to get a 
>>>>> Boscomoose. So, if anyone has one for sale or possible trade, I might be 
>>>>> your guy. I have two questions however; is the Boscomoose quill as long 
>>>>> as 
>>>>> my Faceplater stem? And, does anyone know the effective "stem" length on 
>>>>> a 
>>>>> Boscomoose? I cannot find that info anywhere but need that extension to 
>>>>> be 
>>>>> close to the 130mm I have with the Faceplater.
>>>>> Thanks!
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[RBW] Re: Clemuno Jr

2022-08-20 Thread Bones
I always thought a Homer-ish bike with big fat tires would be awesome. It 
sounds like that’s what this is. And it’s a single speed too, which is 
exactly what I would want! In fact I even was considering a custom at some 
point, and it looked a lot like this in my head. I picture it with some 
quills/antelopes and Ron’s ortho bars. Cant wait.

Bones 

On Saturday, August 20, 2022 at 8:10:05 AM UTC-4 Ryan wrote:

> I hear you Joe! I love the simplicity and silence of single-speeds too. I 
> confess that my old SS PX-10 has been seeing the most riding the last few 
> years. Maybe it's my silent resistance to the proliferation of e-bikes I've 
> been seeing given the ruinous gas prices...which, don't get me wrong, are a 
> good idea if they take some cars off the road! even though aesthetically 
> they  do nothing for me. 
>
> But the final version of the Roaduno could tick some boxes...
>
> On Saturday, August 20, 2022 at 1:34:29 AM UTC-5 Joe Bernard wrote:
>
>> I have an irrational love (ok most of my love experiences are irrational, 
>> but I digress) of the look and simplicity of singlespeeds that translates 
>> to hardly any riding I do. I want this bike despite knowing I'd have to 
>> walk it up the hill in front of my house just to start a ride! 
>>
>> Joe "pfft, it doesn't look that steep" Bernard 
>>
>> On Friday, August 19, 2022 at 9:46:47 PM UTC-7 brendonoid wrote:
>>
>>> I think the Roaduno is going to have much lighter tubing than the Clem. 
>>> So not going to be as good to load up or off road.
>>> I for one welcome a road bike I can put Antelope Hills on, however. So I 
>>> am looking forward to it.
>>>
>>

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Re: [RBW] Re: 2021 Homer wheelbase numbers

2022-08-17 Thread Bones
I’ve used sidepulls and took no issue with them. I can’t claim to have 
experienced any night and day differences. I just find that Paul center 
pulls and levers have the best feel. They also maximize your clearances, 
look sharp, and probably provide more powerful braking. In my opinion, they 
are a perfect match for this bike. I like cantis and V-brakes on other 
bikes, but on the homer, center pulls just feel right to me.

Bones

On Wednesday, August 17, 2022 at 5:01:18 AM UTC-4 Daman Kumar wrote:

> Thank you for measuring that, Bones! The official spec on the racks on 
> buses here says the maximum supported wheelbase is 46”. 118.75 cm 
> translates to 46.75”. Argh, I’m tempted to think that the extra 0.75” 
> should be fine ™.
>
> > It has Paul centerpulls and I wouldn't want any other type of brake on 
> this bike.
>
> Have sidepulls not performed well enough for you?
>
> Daman
>
> On Tue, Aug 16, 2022 at 9:21 AM Bones  wrote:
>
>> 61.5cm Homer (most recent batch) ~118.75cm wheelbase. The Homers have 
>> definitely gotten longer faster than the Sams have. I found considerable 
>> overlap (for my uses) between my Sam and Appaloosa. I no longer have the 
>> Sam but I still have an Appaloosa. I now have a Homer as well. It has Paul 
>> centerpulls and I wouldn't want any other type of brake on this bike. The 
>> blue on this recent batch is out of this world.
>>
>> Bones
>>
>> On Monday, August 15, 2022 at 9:02:29 PM UTC-4 Roberta wrote:
>>
>>> That's "Ive gotten quiet a few "yikes" with the Platy (and 
>>> Appaloosa--not shown in pics) on bus racks."  I put the bikes on there to 
>>> test the length and feasibility.  I wouldn't put the Platy on a rack if the 
>>> bus was to move!  :)
>>>
>>> On Monday, August 15, 2022 at 8:58:03 PM UTC-4 Roberta wrote:
>>>
>>>> I didn't realize the Homer got longer wheelbases last year.  I'm sure 
>>>> someone here knows for sure.  I don't keep track too closely.
>>>>
>>>> So, here are my numbers for much smaller sized bikes  that I've ridden 
>>>> or asked owners about, just to give you an idea between the bikes.  They 
>>>> may not be exacting, but you'll get the idea.  BTW, my interest in 
>>>> wheelbase length has to do with me being able to take bike on public 
>>>> transportation bike racks.  I live in the city, so this is important to 
>>>> me.  My two most favorite bikes are the Homer and Platy, so wheelbase 
>>>> didn't correlate to "favorite."
>>>>
>>>> 54.5 Homer   43"
>>>> 51 Appaloosa   45"
>>>> 55 Cheviot 45 1/4" (or 45 1/2")
>>>> 55 Platy 47"
>>>> 52 Clem L  52" (I got to ride Leah's Bicycle Belle Ding Ding)
>>>>
>>>> And, yes, the blue color on Homer is lovely.
>>>>
>>>> I've gotten quite a few "yikes!" with that 
>>>>
>>>> Roberta
>>>>
>>>> On Monday, August 15, 2022 at 6:04:19 PM UTC-4 Daman Kumar wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Well, *of course* I didn't actually attach the image. Here it is.
>>>>>
>>>>> On Monday, August 15, 2022 at 9:28:43 AM UTC-7 Daman Kumar wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hello, Rivsters,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Has anyone here measured the wheelbase of their 61.5 cm Homer? I've 
>>>>>> been meaning to replace my 59 cm Clem H with a shorter (emphasis on the 
>>>>>> *er*) wheelbase-d bike for months now, and only just started actively 
>>>>>> looking at options. The wheelbase is the only real complaint I have with 
>>>>>> the Clem -- it is way too long to fit on a bus rack, which diminishes a 
>>>>>> bike's utility for me.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Given the increase in chainstay length for the 2021 model, I wanted 
>>>>>> to check with the group if anyone has measured, or could measure, the 
>>>>>> wheelbase of their 61.5 cm bike.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I was originally considering picking up a Sam frame from the next 
>>>>>> batch, but I do want to get an Atlantis a few years down the line as my 
>>>>>> forever bike, and I felt there's a considerable overlap between the two. 
>>>>>> I 
>>>>>> intend to use the Homer as an S24O/bike-camping, go-fast (when not 
>>>>>> bringing 
>>>>>> groceries) bike. Rando

[RBW] Re: 2021 Homer wheelbase numbers

2022-08-15 Thread Bones
61.5cm Homer (most recent batch) ~118.75cm wheelbase. The Homers have 
definitely gotten longer faster than the Sams have. I found considerable 
overlap (for my uses) between my Sam and Appaloosa. I no longer have the 
Sam but I still have an Appaloosa. I now have a Homer as well. It has Paul 
centerpulls and I wouldn't want any other type of brake on this bike. The 
blue on this recent batch is out of this world.

Bones

On Monday, August 15, 2022 at 9:02:29 PM UTC-4 Roberta wrote:

> That's "Ive gotten quiet a few "yikes" with the Platy (and Appaloosa--not 
> shown in pics) on bus racks."  I put the bikes on there to test the length 
> and feasibility.  I wouldn't put the Platy on a rack if the bus was to 
> move!  :)
>
> On Monday, August 15, 2022 at 8:58:03 PM UTC-4 Roberta wrote:
>
>> I didn't realize the Homer got longer wheelbases last year.  I'm sure 
>> someone here knows for sure.  I don't keep track too closely.
>>
>> So, here are my numbers for much smaller sized bikes  that I've ridden or 
>> asked owners about, just to give you an idea between the bikes.  They may 
>> not be exacting, but you'll get the idea.  BTW, my interest in wheelbase 
>> length has to do with me being able to take bike on public transportation 
>> bike racks.  I live in the city, so this is important to me.  My two most 
>> favorite bikes are the Homer and Platy, so wheelbase didn't correlate to 
>> "favorite."
>>
>> 54.5 Homer   43"
>> 51 Appaloosa   45"
>> 55 Cheviot 45 1/4" (or 45 1/2")
>> 55 Platy 47"
>> 52 Clem L  52" (I got to ride Leah's Bicycle Belle Ding Ding)
>>
>> And, yes, the blue color on Homer is lovely.
>>
>> I've gotten quite a few "yikes!" with that 
>>
>> Roberta
>>
>> On Monday, August 15, 2022 at 6:04:19 PM UTC-4 Daman Kumar wrote:
>>
>>> Well, *of course* I didn't actually attach the image. Here it is.
>>>
>>> On Monday, August 15, 2022 at 9:28:43 AM UTC-7 Daman Kumar wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hello, Rivsters,
>>>>
>>>> Has anyone here measured the wheelbase of their 61.5 cm Homer? I've 
>>>> been meaning to replace my 59 cm Clem H with a shorter (emphasis on the 
>>>> *er*) wheelbase-d bike for months now, and only just started actively 
>>>> looking at options. The wheelbase is the only real complaint I have with 
>>>> the Clem -- it is way too long to fit on a bus rack, which diminishes a 
>>>> bike's utility for me.
>>>>
>>>> Given the increase in chainstay length for the 2021 model, I wanted to 
>>>> check with the group if anyone has measured, or could measure, the 
>>>> wheelbase of their 61.5 cm bike.
>>>>
>>>> I was originally considering picking up a Sam frame from the next 
>>>> batch, but I do want to get an Atlantis a few years down the line as my 
>>>> forever bike, and I felt there's a considerable overlap between the two. I 
>>>> intend to use the Homer as an S24O/bike-camping, go-fast (when not 
>>>> bringing 
>>>> groceries) bike. Randonneuring has interested me for a while, and it just 
>>>> seems perfect (although, I don't think *I* would have much trouble using a 
>>>> Sam or Atlantis for brevets given I'm not really a fast rider). At under 
>>>> 170 lbs. I believe it shouldn't be a problem. I digress.
>>>>
>>>> So... anybody?
>>>>
>>>> Clem tax: a picture on a typical PNW winter morning at Lake Sammamish
>>>> P.S. How cool would a canti Homer be, eh?
>>>>
>>>> Daman "who would be a lot more open to a Sam in that *gorgeous* Homer 
>>>> blue" Kumar
>>>>
>>>

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[RBW] Re: ROADUNO - a new singlespeed!

2022-08-03 Thread Bones

Exciting indeed. I will be first in line for the production frames. I 
wonder what the color options will be?

Bones
On Wednesday, August 3, 2022 at 8:26:50 AM UTC-4 Bill Lindsay wrote:

> The Roaduno samples are on the boat, at the dock in Oakland this week, so 
> those sample builds will be along soon.  Exciting.
>
> Bill Lindsay
> El Cerrito, CA
>
> On Monday, July 11, 2022 at 7:08:47 PM UTC-7 Johnny Alien wrote:
>
>> I think the Gallops are 2023 and they have already gone through two proto 
>> stages.  I think Roadunos might be further out than that.
>>
>> On Monday, July 11, 2022 at 11:00:35 AM UTC-5 Bill Lindsay wrote:
>>
>>> The plan had been that the Prototype Roadunos would be in one of these 
>>> Summer Shipments.  I think that the prototype Roadunos maybe were in the 
>>> shipment with the Atlantis' or maybe will be in the next shipment.  Those 
>>> will be prototypes, so we'll presumably get to see them built up, and 
>>> locals can test ride them.  If there are any final tweaks Riv needs to make 
>>> on the real production Roadunos, they'll find those goofs on the 
>>> prototypes.  
>>>
>>> Then, we'll wait.  I think sometime in early 2023 the production 
>>> Roadunos will be buyable by us.  I had been eagerly awaiting the prototypes 
>>> arriving because I am local and was going to give one a test ride.  I have 
>>> managed to acquire a Quickbeam and so I'm not as desperate, but I'm still 
>>> keeping my finger on the pulse.  Folks that are desperate for the absolute 
>>> latest should call Will and ask him.  
>>>
>>> Bill Lindsay
>>> El Cerrito, CA
>>>
>>> On Monday, July 11, 2022 at 7:16:14 AM UTC-7 Doug H. wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hey all, I wanted to revive this old thread to see if any one has any 
>>>> new information about when the Roaduno might be released for sale. 
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> Doug
>>>>
>>>> On Friday, August 27, 2021 at 9:27:35 PM UTC-4 Joe Bernard wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> This excerpt is from the August 6 newsletter. I'll be shocked (but 
>>>>> bake in that I tend towards the skeptical) if we see a Roaduno before 
>>>>> 2023. 
>>>>>
>>>>> - The rest of our orders, most of which we placed in September 2020, 
>>>>> have been pushed back to 2023. We're still waiting to hear for sure what 
>>>>> we 
>>>>> can get from our other frame maker - so far all they've said is that 
>>>>> they'll try their hardest to get us Homers in July '22, but no word yet 
>>>>> on 
>>>>> Roadunos, Roadinis, and Gus-n-Susies, which they also make. -
>>>>>
>>>>> Joe Bernard
>>>>>
>>>>> On Friday, August 27, 2021 at 6:02:30 PM UTC-7 Michael Morrissey wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Is there any update on the Roaduno? If there was, I missed it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> M
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Thursday, December 24, 2020 at 3:52:10 PM UTC-5 Philip Williamson 
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> How about those colors and graphics?? I love them. 
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> https://www.rivbike.com/blogs/peeking-through-the-knothole/no-22-december
>>>>>>> The headbadge is no Rosco Bubbe rocketship, but #2 is quite nice.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> (Chrome ate my longer post)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Philip
>>>>>>> Santa Rosa, CA 
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Friday, December 11, 2020 at 3:03:18 PM UTC-8 Nathan F wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> From today's BLAHG:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> "1. *RoadUno,* a onespeed derailerless country-kind of bike (not 
>>>>>>>> modeled after a track bike). For pavement, town, commutes. It's not a 
>>>>>>>> trail 
>>>>>>>> bike. You can ride it on dirt and gravel roads, but it's kind of rude 
>>>>>>>> to 
>>>>>>>> ride it on hilly and rough trails. More on it way below."
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Sounds great. I'm praying for purple (no grey or RBW Blue, 
>>>>>>>> please--sorry but they use 'em too much) and v-brakes. Based on the 
>>>>>>>> name I 
>>>>>>>> think the latter is unlikely : (
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> - Nathan in PDX
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>

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Re: [RBW] High bars at a club ride

2022-07-26 Thread Bones
I think that's the whole point. Drop bars are the only option on many over 
the counter crotch rockets. Many people are not aware of the "endless 
way(s) to ride." 

Bones

On Tuesday, July 26, 2022 at 8:52:55 AM UTC-4 jo...@chilmarkresearch.com 
wrote:

> Garth, couldn’t have said it better myself.
> Whatever works for YOU is all that counts…
> …though I have been known to give pointers to relatively new riders on 
> form, cadence, gearing etiquette, etc. to help them maintain pace in a 
> paceline. 
>
> Johnnysmooth 
>
> On Jul 26, 2022, at 8:44 AM, Garth  wrote:
>
> 
>
> I've ridden many a mile and raced with quite low drops bars. I've ridden 
> many a mile with with quite high Albatross bars. 
>
> I've ridden many a mile with "regular/street" clothes. I've ridden many a 
> mile with "cycling specific" clothes. 
>
> Day/night/up/down and all around . 
>
> Who/what is to say one "position/way" is better than any other ?
>
> That "who/what" is but the given position trying to justify itself !   Not 
> the rider, the one riding. These "positions" take many forms, be it 
> formations of size and shape or thoughts/opinions/attitudes inwards and 
> outwards towards "others". Sometimes the rider seems to "lose themselves" 
> in these "positions" and seem to believe they ARE the "position". They are 
> not, ever. One is not "what they say", One is That They IS" .BEING !  
> ((( laughing ))) 
>
> Such is the "egomania" of such "positions" !  ((( laughing heartily ))) 
> Always seeking validation, a pat on the ol' back, a status up high or even 
> down low... and a ho-ho-ho !
>
>  
> Nevertheless There's endless way to ride !  As you ride 'em all you 
> clealy see that they all have thier place/time/space/etc, that there is no 
> valid basis for comparing/raising/lowering one to any "other" one as there 
> is only The-One-ALL . This Presence called "Here/Now/This/The-IS" ! 
>
> Just Ride sunshine ! 
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Re: [RBW] High bars at a club ride

2022-07-26 Thread Bones
I would have said look at all the other riders' body positions compared to 
Leah's. It's the same. It's the same position I am in while holding front 
of my Albatross/Billie bars. I can't dispute that drops are great sometimes 
(mostly wind for me), but I have my drops high enough to comfortable and 
useful for me. That may not be the case with many "over the counter crotch 
rockets" <-- love it!

Bones

On Tuesday, July 26, 2022 at 8:12:02 AM UTC-4 Marc Irwin wrote:

> Eric,
> The point is that riders don't use that position.  Even against the wind, 
> only one with drop bars actually got into the lower position.  They all 
> stayed up on the hoods or the flats the whole ride.
>
> Marc
>
> On Tuesday, July 26, 2022 at 7:38:12 AM UTC-4 Eric Daume wrote:
>
>> Is there any doubt drop bars aren’t faster? Less drag goes a long way. A 
>> more leaned over position lets you use your big butt muscles better. 
>>
>> Leah is up front because she’s a strong rider. Maybe she would be up 
>> fronter if she had drops. 
>>
>> Eric
>> With no drop bar bikes in the garage. 
>>
>>
>> On Tuesday, July 26, 2022, Marc Irwin  wrote:
>>
>>> It was a normal Monday night ride with the Kalamazoo Bicycle Club.  A 
>>> typical group was riding 15-16 MPH for 25 or so miles.  A good bunch of 
>>> people in biking regalia on their over the counter crotch rockets with drop 
>>> bars, except for me and Leah Peterson on our Rivendells. with upright 
>>> bars.In the lousy cell phone shot I took from the back of the group, 
>>> Leah is the second white helmet from from the front left.  Notice her 
>>> posture compared to the body position of all the riders on their drop bars.
>>> [image: high bars.jpg]
>>> It was that way the whole ride. Most club riders assume their drop bars 
>>> make them faster, after all, EVERYBODY uses them right?  
>>>
>>> Marc
>>>
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Re: [RBW] Sayonara Japan: A Farewell Tour

2022-07-24 Thread Bones
Fantastic pictures as always John. Japan looks like a beautiful place. I 
can’t wait to see where your path takes you next!

Bones

On Saturday, July 23, 2022 at 7:08:33 PM UTC-4 John Rinker wrote:

> Thank you, Evan. 
>
> I lived and worked in Japan 2 short years. If I were to return, I'd 
> definitely try to get up to Hokkaido near the Shiretoku Park (northeastern 
> corner) because I was unable to get there during my time. I've heard many 
> times that to enjoy Hokkaido properly by bicycle you'd need a month, at 
> least, But, if someone who hadn't been to Japan were to get for a week of 
> cycling (and they were as enamoured with rivers and mountains as I am) 
> you'd want to head to Yakushima Island just south of Kagoshima. I rode 
> there twice, and somewhere in these threads is a trip report from each 
> time. A magical place, for sure!
>
> For every beautiful place I was fortunate enough to ride, there are at 
> least 10 more that I'd like to.
>
> Cheers,
> John
>
>
>
> On Saturday, July 23, 2022 at 12:16:07 PM UTC-7 Evan E. wrote:
>
>> Wow. Beautiful photos! John, how long were you in Japan? (Sorry if you 
>> already explained but I missed your explanation.) And if you were to return 
>> to Japan for, say, one week and you could take just one ride or one loop 
>> that you have taken before, which would it be? Shikoku proper? Or Shimanami 
>> Kaido? Or? 
>>
>> Evan 
>>
>>>

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[RBW] Re: WTB: Nitto Bosco Bullmoose 54cm

2022-07-14 Thread Bones
Heads up, Blue Lug just restocked these in 54mm and 58mm 
<https://global.bluelug.com/nitto-rivendell-bosco-bullmoose-bar-thread.html>. 
Shipping will no doubt be bonkers but at $91.66, I'm sure it will come in 
well under retail price at Riv (if they ever get them again).

Bones

On Thursday, July 14, 2022 at 4:20:14 AM UTC-4 jan.ot...@gmail.com wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> Does anyone have a 54cm Bosco Bullmoose bar they'd like to sell? Please 
> email me off list if you have one available.
>
> Thank you
>
> Jan
> San Francisco, CA
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[RBW] Re: Happy Fourth!

2022-07-05 Thread Bones

Thanks Randy, and it sure does! I can ride this bike most places and it’s 
always fun and comfortable.

Bones
On Sunday, July 3, 2022 at 5:38:00 PM UTC-4 larson@gmail.com wrote:

> A really beautiful and elegant bike! Does it ride as well as it looks?
> Randy in Wisconsin
>
> On Sunday, July 3, 2022 at 2:44:40 PM UTC-5 Bones wrote:
>
>> I was supposed to go to my folks' house this weekend but I got called in 
>> to work so I sent my roomates without me. And that means rather than 
>> commuting and running errands, I actually had the opportunity to ride one 
>> of my bicycles for no good reason at all! It also means I got a break from 
>> cleaning up toys and diapers for a few days. I selected my Roadini, which 
>> recently got an overhaul. What a beautiful day! I hope ya'll get out for a 
>> ride too...
>>
>>

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[RBW] LF Velocity Cliffhangers 27.5

2022-06-15 Thread Bones
Anyone have a set in 32H silver in good shape? Rims preferable but maybe a 
wheelset.

Thanks,
Bones

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[RBW] Re: How Many Bars on the Appaloosa?

2022-06-07 Thread Bones
6'1" with long legs (92pbh). I had a 62 Appaloosa and currently have a 60 
Appaloosa. I've never had toe overlap on either. I've used 38's on up to 
57's (and 50's with fenders). I would size the frame based on your riding 
style. If you are thinking drops or either moose and you don't like the 
bars very upright, I would probably size down. The mooses have a lot of 
rise built in and you may be limited on how far down you can push them. Not 
an issue if you want them more upright. Also, in my experience, the 
Appaloosa prefers tires 50mm+.

Bones

On Tuesday, June 7, 2022 at 1:01:44 PM UTC-4 Max S wrote:

> Resurrecting an old thread, as I'm lazily pondering an Appaloosa with a 
> ChocoMoose set-up (if I can find one). How's the toe overlap on this with 
> ~50 mm tire? 42 mm tire? Folks who are ~6' tall, what size frame are you 
> riding? Drop-bar or BullMoose or ChocoMoose? 
>
> - Max "who can't stop tinkering" in A2 
>
> On Monday, February 21, 2022 at 1:51:09 PM UTC-5 James wrote:
>
>> I used to ride with the Albatross but the bends in the bars were 
>> uncomfortable when I wanted to put my hands in a more forwards position.  I 
>> switched to Bosco bars and love them but I am ridiculously upright.  I can 
>> lean forwards and rest my elbows on by bar grips, with my hands in the 
>> center of the bar.  I can hardly stand and pedal though, as my hands will 
>> basically be at my hips.  I'l like to switch and am considering the 
>> choco-moose based off this thread.
>> On Sunday, February 20, 2022 at 12:15:49 AM UTC-5 Andrew Turner wrote:
>>
>>> Yeah I'm a handlebar fiend. The first bar I became obsessed with was the 
>>> Albatross with bar-end shifters. Truly a perfect cockpit. The second 
>>> handlebar obsession was the Nitto B135 in the 45cm flavor... but then I 
>>> discovered my preference for shorter reach, which led me to my third and 
>>> maybe-latest favorite: Ritchey's Butano handlebar. Another perfect one: 
>>> it's ridiculously comfortable with just a single layer of Green Grips 
>>> cotton bar tape. HOWEVER. I'm waiting on a new pair of Albatross bars to 
>>> come in the mail from Riv, so I'm going back to the beginning to see how 
>>> that feels. 
>>>
>>> Going from drops to alt-bars is the biggest swap for me because it 
>>> usually means I've completely changed the intention of the build from an 
>>> endurance-focused bike (drops) to a fun, smell the roses, 
>>> better-all-terrain bike (alt-bars). It's on like a 1.5-2 year rotation it 
>>> seems. I romanticize spending all day on the saddle, try it, get 
>>> progressively more bored for the next year and a half, then revert and/or 
>>> graduate to Albatross bars until I get sick of the headwind on a paved ride 
>>> in another year and a half!   
>>> On Tuesday, February 1, 2022 at 8:04:27 AM UTC-6 Johnny Alien wrote:
>>>
>>>> Yep!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> https://rivbike.tumblr.com/post/135532314029/the-joe-appaloosa-saga-its-a-new-bike
>>>>
>>>> On Tuesday, February 1, 2022 at 12:31:54 AM UTC-5 Erik wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Were the choco moose bars original equipment on the first round of 
>>>>> Appaloosas?  
>>>>>
>>>>> On Monday, January 31, 2022 at 9:10:33 PM UTC-8 J Imler wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> [image: 186E1CD7-3716-4BE9-A68B-A3B5D6CD2FD2.jpeg]+1 choco moose
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Monday, January 31, 2022 at 7:18:11 PM UTC-8 Roberta wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Same here for the choco moose bars on this bike. I switched to 
>>>>>>> albatross to lighten the build, but went back to the perfect  bars for 
>>>>>>> this 
>>>>>>> bike—choco moose. 
>>>>>>> On Monday, January 31, 2022 at 12:58:54 PM UTC-5 Bones wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I did the same thing to my Appaloosas: boscomoose, bullmoose, 
>>>>>>>> chocomoose, choco, albatross, billie. All of them worked great on this 
>>>>>>>> bike. At the end of the day I always come back to the chocomoose 
>>>>>>>> though. 
>>>>>>>> There is something magical about those bars, at least for me. Great 
>>>>>>>> hand 
>>>>>>>> positions. I love how they are inverted. And yes, they are tougher and 
>>>>>>>> stiffer than other bars 'n stems. They work great with ba

Re: [RBW] Re: Craigslist (and others) Bikes For Sale: 3

2022-06-05 Thread Bones
I’ve got a 59 Clem L in RBW blue I planned on rebuilding and unloading. 
Just haven’t had any time to get to it. PM me if interested!

Bones

On Sunday, June 5, 2022 at 8:10:43 PM UTC-4 mrg...@gmail.com wrote:

> There is a Clem in Indy that's been up for a while. 
> https://indianapolis.craigslist.org/bik/d/indianapolis-rivendell-clem-smith-jr/7479780317.html
>
> mike
>
>
> On Sunday, June 5, 2022 at 6:16:10 PM UTC-5 Kiley Demond wrote:
>
>> Missed this one! Anyone else going to part with a 59 Clem L?
>> On Thursday, June 2, 2022 at 9:29:31 AM UTC-7 Danzem wrote:
>>
>>> Clementine
>>> 59cm
>>> $2000
>>> San Francisco, CA
>>>
>>> https://sfbay.craigslist.org/sfc/bik/d/san-francisco-rivendell-clem-black-59/7487590750.html
>>>
>>> On Monday, May 23, 2022 at 12:38:01 PM UTC-7 Max S wrote:
>>>
>>>> Indeed... some people must be clueless. Plus, that saddle slammed all 
>>>> the way back on its rails - poor seatpost! 
>>>>
>>>> On Monday, May 23, 2022 at 2:38:06 PM UTC-4 Joe Bernard wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> $3700 for an XO-1. Just by literally any Rivendell and you'll have a 
>>>>> better bike 
>>>>>
>>>>> On Monday, May 23, 2022 at 11:10:01 AM UTC-7 eric...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Two Bridgestone XOs on Northern Virginia craigslist. 
>>>>>>
>>>>>> XO-2
>>>>>> 52cm
>>>>>> $700
>>>>>> Alexandria, VA 
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://washingtondc.craigslist.org/nva/bik/d/alexandria-bridgestone-xo/7487241486.html
>>>>>>
>>>>>> XO-1
>>>>>> 52cm
>>>>>> $3,700 (!!!)
>>>>>> McLean, VA 
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://washingtondc.craigslist.org/nva/bik/d/mc-lean-1993bridgestone-xo/7486737255.html
>>>>>>
>>>>>> [image: 00R0R_4dzbuWztfnjz_0ne0ne_600x450.jpg]
>>>>>> [image: 00808_5v9Ky5oUv7Iz_0CI0lN_600x450.jpg]
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Sunday, May 22, 2022 at 1:53:36 AM UTC-4 Hetchins52 wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> New title fixes the Appaloosa spelling. (Nonetheless, Rivendell is 
>>>>>>> spelled three different ways!)
>>>>>>> Probably a good deal if the big Sackville and a rack come with it!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> https://sfbay.craigslist.org/eby/bik/d/berkeley-rivendell-appaloosa-46cm/7486742585.html
>>>>>>> David
>>>>>>> Berkeley
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Saturday, May 21, 2022 at 5:17:30 PM UTC-7 mma...@gmail.com 
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> In case you missed it, a misspelled "46cm rivendale apolusa", SF 
>>>>>>>> gregslist.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> https://sfbay.craigslist.org/eby/bik/d/berkeley-46cm-rivendale-apolusa/7481031255.html
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> [image: 00t0t_7y44sGOHEg8z_0CI0t2_1200x900.jpg]
>>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Sat, May 21, 2022 at 1:12 PM Jason  wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Sam Hillborne
>>>>>>>>> 60cm
>>>>>>>>> $1,000
>>>>>>>>> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/1162024001299575/
>>>>>>>>> On Saturday, May 21, 2022 at 2:36:24 PM UTC-5 eric...@gmail.com 
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Sam Hillborne frame, fork, headset
>>>>>>>>>> 62cm
>>>>>>>>>> $1,100
>>>>>>>>>> Havre de Grace, MD
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/758797715280300/?ref=search_code=marketplace_search_story_type=post
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> [image: 281757366_5077936658980492_8181435420314547667_n.jpg]
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Friday, May 20, 2022 at 1:59:13 PM UTC-4 Eric Marth wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Hubbuhubbuh
>>>>>>>>>>> "Large"
>>>>>&

[RBW] Re: Ride Report: Izu Oshima- Gojira's Keep

2022-05-31 Thread Bones
Great timing John, I've been watching all the old Godzilla movies with my 
son these past few weeks. I'm glad he's down there in his fiery prison and 
not out destroying the beautiful countryside. As always, fantastic 
pictures. Keep 'em coming.

Bones

On Monday, May 30, 2022 at 2:00:34 AM UTC-4 John Rinker wrote:

> Takashi,
>
> Japan is absolutely full of 'must ride' places, and because my time here 
> is limited I will leave with a very long 'must ride' list. I hope to come 
> back again someday and experience more. 
>
> Just returned from a weekend ride in Okutama where the clear rivers cut 
> very deep, steep valleys into the lush mountainsides. The swimming was fast 
> and cold and breathtaking (in more ways than one).
>
> [image: IMG_0062.jpeg] [image: IMG_0064.jpeg]
>
> Cheers,
> John
>
> On Saturday, May 28, 2022 at 10:12:23 PM UTC+9 Takashi wrote:
>
>> Oh, I remember reading Blue Lug Blog about trip to Izu Oshima.
>> The island surely looks like a 'must ride' place. Your description and 
>> photos make me want to visit there.
>> Thank you for sharing!
>>
>> Takashi
>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: WTB: Hurricane Ridge

2022-05-31 Thread Bones
I don't have a pair for sale but I do have a pair in the endurance casing 
and I think they're great. They don't roll quite as smoothly as the lighter 
casings but they definitely do not feel like they will tear. Great tough 
all-around tire for a Hillborne. Good luck.

Bones

On Tuesday, May 31, 2022 at 2:55:41 PM UTC-4 Adam wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> If anyone has a used set--or single--RH Hurricane Ridge that you want to 
> clear out, let me know.
>
> I recently bought a used set of black ELs from the list and really liked 
> the feel of these on the one ride they survived before tearing a sidewall. 
> As it stands, I'm not entirely convinced I want to shell out $90/tire for 
> the endurance casing, but they really fit the Hillborne nicely.
>
> If anyone has a pair, or single, in whatever casing, I'd love to try them 
> a bit more before dropping the $$$ on a new pair.
>
> THANKS!
>
> Adam
>
>
>
>

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[RBW] Re: WTB: Drivetrain parts

2022-05-10 Thread Bones
PM sent.

Bones

On Tuesday, May 10, 2022 at 10:03:29 AM UTC-4 Adam wrote:

> I'm working on assembling parts for a build and need drivetrain stuff. I'm 
> not so knowledgeable about compatibility issues so am hoping to find 
> someone with a functional set of parts they're wanting to move along.
>
> Aiming for
> 9sp cassette 11-34
> dura ace bar ends
> derailers (compatible with this gearing range and indexing)
> 46/30 crankset (170) 
>
> The freewheel is set up 11sp, so I could theoretically use something other 
> than 9, but prefer 9sp for compatibility with my other bikes.
>
> Please send me a message if you have any of this that you're looking to 
> move along.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Adam
>

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[RBW] LF Sackville Jumbo Grabby

2022-04-16 Thread Bones
I love my grabsack but find I’m toting more stuff these days. Anyone have a 
jumbo in good shape they’re not using?

Thanks,
Bones

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[RBW] Re: FS New Sackville Hoard found, trunk sacks, saddle sacks, backabikes, discontinued items

2022-04-03 Thread Bones
PM sent grey saddlesack large.

Bones

On Sunday, April 3, 2022 at 11:55:17 AM UTC-4 Matt Beecher wrote:

> PM sent on panniers, XS saddle sack, mudflaps, and a saddle.  Let's set up 
> a bike!
>
> Best regards,
> Matt
>
> On Sunday, April 3, 2022 at 9:31:00 AM UTC-5 Alex Wirth- Owner, Yellow 
> Haus Bicycles wrote:
>
>> Some updates as of today, I found another big box of Sackville stuff 
>> (from our old shop):
>>
>> (2) Blue trunk sacks $105 each
>> (2) Grey trunk sacks $105 each
>> (7) Blue flaps $15 each
>> (2) Olive flaps $15 each
>> (1) Brown flap $15 each
>> (6) Yellow Haus Wunder Sac (snack/handlebar bag) $75 
>> (1) Blue saddle sack large $220
>> (1) Grey saddle sack large $220
>> (1) Blue bagabond $200
>> (1) Blue saddle sack small $145
>> (1) Blue saddle sack x-small $70
>> (2) Blue backabike panniers $250 for the set (will not separate)
>> (2) Tan hub shiners $10 each
>> (2) Brown hub shiners $10 each
>>
>> Pretty sure most of these are unobtainium from Riv (either discontinued 
>> or not available at the moment)
>>
>>
>> any 2 trunk sacks for $180
>> any two shiners $15
>> any 2 flaps for $25
>>
>> All prices are plus shipping, PayPal F or CashApp preferred (although 
>> PayPal G is ok if we don't know each other)
>>
>> Cheers!!
>>
>> Alex Wirth in Rochester, NY
>>
>> [image: IMG-0407.jpg]
>>
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[RBW] Re: FS 1.5 Riv Sweaters and some hats

2022-03-13 Thread Bones
Both hats claimed, sweaters still available.

Bones

On Saturday, March 12, 2022 at 8:33:56 PM UTC-5 Bones wrote:

> RBW hat has been claimed.
>
> Bones
>
> On Saturday, March 12, 2022 at 2:46:14 PM UTC-5 Bones wrote:
>
>> All items including shipping CONUS.
>>
>> Tragically, my new size large William and Ringo sweater from Riv's last 
>> batch found it's way into the wash and is now even smaller than a medium. 
>> It was worn once, and I will sell it for about half off (let's say $65 
>> shipped).
>>
>> I also have a brand new never worn medium William and Ringo sweater. I 
>> would like what I paid for it plus shipping ($120 shipped).
>>
>> A Blue Lug RBW cycle cap in coyote. Brand new; too large for my tiny head 
>> ($60 shipped)
>>
>> A Blue Lug Work Hat in grey... also brand new and too large for me ($60 
>> shipped)
>>
>> Thanks for looking!
>> Bones
>>
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[RBW] Re: FS 1.5 Riv Sweaters and some hats

2022-03-12 Thread Bones
RBW hat has been claimed.

Bones

On Saturday, March 12, 2022 at 2:46:14 PM UTC-5 Bones wrote:

> All items including shipping CONUS.
>
> Tragically, my new size large William and Ringo sweater from Riv's last 
> batch found it's way into the wash and is now even smaller than a medium. 
> It was worn once, and I will sell it for about half off (let's say $65 
> shipped).
>
> I also have a brand new never worn medium William and Ringo sweater. I 
> would like what I paid for it plus shipping ($120 shipped).
>
> A Blue Lug RBW cycle cap in coyote. Brand new; too large for my tiny head 
> ($60 shipped)
>
> A Blue Lug Work Hat in grey... also brand new and too large for me ($60 
> shipped)
>
> Thanks for looking!
> Bones
>

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Re: [RBW] Has anyone tried out their Uncle Ron's Orthopedic Bars?

2022-02-09 Thread Bones
Sadly mine are in the shed too, and have not yet seen any use. I attached 
them to my Clem H on a 12cm Tallux but I haven't finished putting it 
together. A 26.0 faceplater quill would probably be ideal but I don't know 
where to find one of those. I've got an extra dirt drop but I assumed that 
would bring them too close to me. One of those threadless stem adapters 
would probably work great but I'm not too keen on the aesthetics. I'm not a 
huge dude and I don't anticipate I'll have any issues with the Tallux. I'll 
be sure to report back once I get it rolling though.

Bones
On Tuesday, February 8, 2022 at 8:18:25 PM UTC-5 fra...@gmail.com wrote:

> Still in the shed? Oh man. Sure you don’t want to just pass them along? 
> Because I’m in! Haha
>
> On Tuesday, February 8, 2022 at 4:16:57 PM UTC-8 John Phillips wrote:
>
>> "Orthopedic back Bars...for performance applications" 
>>
>> That gave me a chuckle.
>>
>> John
>>
>> On Tuesday, February 8, 2022 at 2:14:35 PM UTC-8 eric...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> John – I haven't tried the bars but have a set in the shed. I seem to 
>>> recall somewhere Ron recommended adding some friction compound to the stem. 
>>> Oh, I found it. 
>>>
>>> [image: Screen Shot 2022-02-08 at 5.14.07 PM.png]
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, February 8, 2022 at 4:29:32 PM UTC-5 Sam Perez wrote:
>>>
>>>> I found that a single bolt dirt drip stem holds okay, I mounted it on a 
>>>> 4 bolt stem it felt more secure, yet to be field tested. 
>>>>
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>
>>>> On Feb 8, 2022, at 12:32 PM, 'John Phillips' via RBW Owners Bunch <
>>>> rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> 
>>>>
>>>> And did you need any friction paste or Loctite in the bar clamp?
>>>>
>>>> John
>>>>
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[RBW] Re: I'm a New Bike Commuter

2022-02-04 Thread Bones
It depends on how much stuff you need to tote. For years now I've been 
quite happy with: front rack, Wald 137, Sackville grabsack, net. I am also 
able to store my bike inside when I get to work, but I stay away from rear 
bags because I do lock up at other places sometimes and I like being able 
to take what's in the basket and leave the bike bare. I keep my lock, 
tools, repair stuff, lunch, etc. in the bag. When I do have to drive to 
work I take the same grabsack, so I never need to rearrange my stuff. If 
you like using your backpack for walking, perhaps you can continue to do 
so, and just throw it in a basket if you decide to ride in.

Good luck!
Bones

On Friday, February 4, 2022 at 11:31:47 AM UTC-5 Kainalu V. -Brooklyn NY 
wrote:

> You're Stoked! and I'm very happy for you. Being able to bring your bike 
> inside can be a blessing and a curse, what with condensation and such as 
> you see in jolly Philadelphia. I'm fortunate to have a back lot at my job 
> where I can stash my bike behind a locked gate, and as a museum laborer, 
> it's not a huge deal if I'm a little sweaty upon arrival (I keep emergency 
> clothes stashed under my seldom used desk though).
> As for backpacks, throw that thing in the Skoookiill river. 
>
> A Happy Rolling Roberta!
> -Kai
>
>
> On Friday, February 4, 2022 at 9:33:29 AM UTC-5 Roberta wrote:
>
>> After living in the city for decades, my company moved its office and I 
>> can finally bike or walk commute--just under 2 miles each way.   I've been 
>> varying my method based on the weather (I don't like riding in the rain, 
>> snow or ice) and both are fabulous ways to start and end the day, 
>> physically and mentally.  Most of the ride is on streets with bike lanes.  
>> I'll be riding one of my two step-through's--Platypus or She-Devil.  I can 
>> take the bike into my office.
>>
>> I like using a backpack for walking, but not sure about riding.   What do 
>> you use for a short commuter trips--backpack (current preference, not not 
>> sure how hot I'll find it in the warmer months), pannier or saddle bag (I 
>> have a Riv Small Saddlesack).  I have rack or rack and basket on the back 
>> of each bike. I'll be carrying lunch, a change of clothes and shoes.
>>
>> I have lots of lights and reflectors on the bikes.  Any other suggestions?
>>
>> Roberta
>>
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[RBW] Re: How Many Bars on the Appaloosa?

2022-01-31 Thread Bones
I did the same thing to my Appaloosas: boscomoose, bullmoose, chocomoose, 
choco, albatross, billie. All of them worked great on this bike. At the end 
of the day I always come back to the chocomoose though. There is something 
magical about those bars, at least for me. Great hand positions. I love how 
they are inverted. And yes, they are tougher and stiffer than other bars 'n 
stems. They work great with bar end shifters or thumbies. One thing I 
discovered is that although I think the silver shifters are the best, the 
clamp is not so great for inboard thumbies. The microshift shifters with 
paul levers have a nice low profile and don't interrupt your hand 
positions. With respect to the Newbaums, yes I have used a shameful amount 
for bar swaps over the years. At some point I just started slipping oury 
grips on the end and leaving the forward grip areas permanently taped. Bike 
looks great!

Bones

On Monday, January 31, 2022 at 2:57:14 AM UTC-5 Nick Payne wrote:

> I just used my standard Nitto drop bar on my Appaloosa, with a shorter 
> stem than on my other bikes because it has a longer top tube. Brake levers 
> in their normal location, wrapped the bars, haven't changed anything since:
> [image: PXL_20201213_024100183.jpg]
>
> Nick
>

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[RBW] Re: Phil Wood high flange rear track hub question

2022-01-16 Thread Bones
BTW, I have a nice Sugino 75 BB I'd like to use, that's why I didn't 
mention changing the BB, as that would be an easy solution.

Bones

On Sunday, January 16, 2022 at 4:37:40 PM UTC-5 Bones wrote:

> I'm rethinking the drivetrain on my Simpleone. I've got a Phil Wood 
> fixed/free hub here. The chainline with a track cog looks to be right at 
> 42mm. A White freewheel measures closer to 46-47mm. Is that the best I can 
> do? Can the end caps be replaced? The reason I am asking is because I have 
> a track crank I would like to use, but if the chainline is way off I will 
> probably be better off using a road crank and BB instead. I spend most of 
> my time in single speed. Any help would be appreciated!
>
> Thanks,
> Bones
>

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[RBW] Phil Wood high flange rear track hub question

2022-01-16 Thread Bones
I'm rethinking the drivetrain on my Simpleone. I've got a Phil Wood 
fixed/free hub here. The chainline with a track cog looks to be right at 
42mm. A White freewheel measures closer to 46-47mm. Is that the best I can 
do? Can the end caps be replaced? The reason I am asking is because I have 
a track crank I would like to use, but if the chainline is way off I will 
probably be better off using a road crank and BB instead. I spend most of 
my time in single speed. Any help would be appreciated!

Thanks,
Bones

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Re: [RBW] Re: Ron's Ortho Bars in stock at Crust

2022-01-05 Thread Bones
Thanks for the head's up. I saw these on Ron's Atlantis a while back and 
was intrigued. I managed to snag a set before they vanished. About the 
shipping: I've ordered many things from Crust and I regularly receive 
adjustments for the difference in actual shipping costs once my stuff 
ships. $30 is steep, but I doubt you would ever end up paying that.

Bones

On Wednesday, January 5, 2022 at 9:12:10 PM UTC-5 Taylor M wrote:

> I second sending Crust an email.
>
> I suspect whatever algorithm they're using to compute shipping costs 
> doesn't take into account packing considerations, namely whether an item 
> adds significant weight to or changes the size of the package. I ordered 
> the bars + a hat and shipping was a little over $40. I was distracted so I 
> didn't notice until after the fact, but they processed and shipped my order 
> quickly and refunded $25 without me saying anything. This also wasn't the 
> first time Crust has proactively refunded part of my order's shipping cost.
> On Wednesday, January 5, 2022 at 7:47:43 PM UTC-5 John Phillips wrote:
>
>> Maybe send Crust an email? 
>>
>> Maybe there's a glitch in their shipping calculator, an extra $16 to ship 
>> 2 rolls of Newbaum's seems weird.
>>
>> John
>>
>> On Wednesday, January 5, 2022 at 4:35:00 PM UTC-8 eric...@gmail.com 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Getting off-topic here but shipping from Crust is outrageous. $14 to 
>>> ship just the bars to me (I'm an hour away from the by car). If I add two 
>>> rolls of Newbaums shipping jumps to $30!! It had to be said. Thanks for 
>>> listening. 
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, January 5, 2022 at 6:45:05 PM UTC-5 John Phillips wrote:
>>>
>>>> Cool, thanks Danny.
>>>>
>>>> John
>>>>
>>>> On Wednesday, January 5, 2022 at 3:11:39 PM UTC-8 Dee Dee wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> They’re 69 cm wide according to his post on Instagram.
>>>>>
>>>>> -Danny
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, Jan 5, 2022 at 5:08 PM 'John Phillips' via RBW Owners Bunch <
>>>>> rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks for posting, I've been wanting to try out these bars since I 
>>>>>> first saw a photo of them in one of Ron's emails 11 months ago, and 
>>>>>> they're 
>>>>>> nearly sold out already.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Ron said they'd be something line 67-69cm, but I didn't see too many 
>>>>>> spec's listed. Does anyone know how wide these bars are?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> John
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Wednesday, January 5, 2022 at 10:49:06 AM UTC-8 eric...@gmail.com 
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Some have cyclers have been waiting for these, Ron's swept-back 
>>>>>>> super wide bars. They quietly went up on the Crust site this week. I 
>>>>>>> believe these are based on Bosco bars that Ron modified by somehow 
>>>>>>> flattening and bending them to make 'em wider.  
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> https://crustbikes.com/products/rons-ortho-bar-for-whenever-it-shows-up
>>>>>>>
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Re: [RBW] Roadini 650b conversion

2021-12-27 Thread Bones
Looks great Kushan! Glad to help. It's such a fun bike.

Bones

On Sunday, December 26, 2021 at 7:00:14 PM UTC-5 Jim Bronson wrote:

> Interesting thread.   My 90s Road is converted to 650Bx38 and I would not 
> want to trade the 38s for 32s.  But on the other hand there was not 
> clearance for fenders with any 700c tire with the short reach brake,  so it 
> was either convert or get a different bike since fenders are a requirement 
> for me.  
>
> I am using the Tektro 55-73 brakes and the stopping power is not great, 
> but I've gotten used to it.   A pad upgrade would probably help. 
>
> The bottom bracket is indeed very low,  solution is not pedaling through 
> corners.  I do scrape every once in a while when I resume pedaling too 
> soon, which happened most recently a few days ago while turning around in a 
> cul-de-sac.  Overall,  it's a compromise I'm willing to live with. I like 
> the bike the way it is and would not go back. 
>
> Jim
> Leander,  TX
>
>
>
> On Sun, Dec 26, 2021, 15:51 Kushan  wrote:
>
>> Hey all - I wanted to post an update here for someone who might be trying 
>> the same thing in future.
>>
>> 650b wheels with long reach (Tektro R559) wheels on a Roadini is 
>> definitely a no-go. Note that this only applies to larger size Roadinis 
>> that were designed for 700c wheels and mid-reach.
>>
>> I have decided to just keep mine for now. Based on pictures from other 
>> RBW owners on this forums (Special thanks to Bones!), I got inspired to 
>> just keep it with a few changes. I changed the tires to 33mm Soma Shikoro 
>> (which were really difficult to source) and outfitted them with SKS fenders 
>> that I had in my parts bin. For now, I have kept the mid-reach Shimano 
>> caliper brakes (which fit with the fenders well). Depending on braking 
>> power I experience in the wetter weather, I might consider either changing 
>> to the Koo-Stop Salmon pads or changing to stiffer center-pull (center-bolt 
>> mounted) brakes. 
>>
>> Here is the picture of the final look. I am quite pleased with how the 
>> bike looks with brown walled tires and the silver fenders and kind of 
>> slapping my head over why I didn't do this before. 
>>
>> On Monday, November 29, 2021 at 9:33:38 AM UTC-8 Paul C. Brodek wrote:
>>
>>> TL;DR: 
>>> 1. You kinda can't be sure unless you try it. 
>>> 2. Google "650b 700c conversion" for hours of reading/listening pleasure.
>>> 3. 19mm is your magic number; 584/650b rim center will sit 19mm lower 
>>> than 622/700c. If your current reach is 57-59mm, you'll need ~80mm for 
>>> 650b. That's long.
>>> 4. There are cheap/flexy sidepulls and pricier/stiffer sidepulls. Best 
>>> IMHO are Paul Racers, which are $$$, and 73mm max drop.
>>> 5. There are better/crappier brake shoes; Grant's current favorites are 
>>> KoolStop gray E-pads.
>>> 6. Eric isn't wrong, but folks have been riding longer-reach brakes in 
>>> wet weather for decades without asploding. See #1 above.
>>> 7. If a Roadini 650b conversion won't work for you, it's either ride 
>>> narrower 700c tires or get a new frame. The correct answer is almost always 
>>> get an additional frame/bike.
>>>
>>> Maybe I don't need much add'l verbiage/blather? I haven't done your 
>>> particular conversion, but I had my 650b conversion jollies a decade or 
>>> more back, and for me it seldom seemed worth the trouble. Biggest issue for 
>>> me was usually the post-conversion 650b bb being too low, with resultant 
>>> pedal strikes.  Where it worked best was if I started out with a fairly 
>>> high bb/shallow drop, and if the pre-conv brake drop was shallow it was 
>>> aces. I don't remember numbers exactly, but my synapses kinda recall a bb 
>>> drop deeper than 70mm already being problematic. 
>>>
>>> My only current/remaining 650b conversions are a '71 Raleigh Team Pro 
>>> with 584/34mm,  with a drop of only 53mm, and a thoroughly modern (for me) 
>>> 2016 Wraith Paycheck at 584/48mm, with stupid-wide clearances, 
>>> designed/built to be 700c/650b convertible. Neither of those bikes are 
>>> fendered. Your Roadini doesn't fit either of those slots.   
>>>
>>> Paul Brodek
>>> Hillsdale, NJ USA
>>>
>>> [image: 50441879817_59c6b9cc84_c(1).jpg]
>>> [image: 50439494628_6c016d82b9_c(1).jpg]
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, November 17, 2021 at 2:17:09 PM UTC-5 Kushan wrote:
>>>
>>>> Thanks all for your thoughts so far. This is shaping up to be

Re: [RBW] Re: New Craigslist/others thread

2021-12-11 Thread Bones
I recently acquired one that's in really decent shape, somehow. Now that 
I've been riding it daily for a month or two, I can easily see why they 
lead a hard life. Super fun bike.

Bones

On Friday, December 10, 2021 at 3:34:07 PM UTC-5 Joe Bernard wrote:

> Those SimpleOne's lead a hard life, don't they? I haven't seen one in 
> years that wasn't scratched all to heck!
>
> Joe Bernard
>
> On Friday, December 10, 2021 at 11:08:40 AM UTC-8 Matthew Williams wrote:
>
>> SimpleOne
>> 56cm
>> $1800
>> Omaha, NB
>> https://www.ebay.com/itm/403347901149
>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: question and WTB for two new country builds

2021-12-07 Thread Bones
I had the Pletscher double on my old Appaloosa. It worked fine with 50mm 
Cazaderos on Cliffhangers. It's not even close to fitting on my new 
Appaloosa with those same tires/rims. I had trouble with single leg 
kickstands as well. I have since moved on to 55mm tires and I gave up on 
the kickstand.

Bones

On Tuesday, December 7, 2021 at 10:00:01 PM UTC-5 Michael Baquerizo wrote:

> thanks for the recommendations and suggestions - managed to get a matching 
> rear thumbie for the bike, and went ahead and ordered a set of paul levers 
> because they'll likely be the last set of levers we'll ever need. been 
> really digging old shimano mtb stuff lately but didn't want to hold out 
> waiting for something in good condition. 
>
> i think i might get an r14 rack eventually, i like the ones without the 
> tombstone. erlen is out of the question, as is the bagman support as i 
> think those are better for barrel shaped bags than for the riv offerings. 
> heck, even a marks rack would do, but i already put one of those on my 
> wife's bike. probably shouldn't steal it from her just yet.
>
> the pec deck is an idea i've considered, but no, the slim sucker does not 
> have any webbing  on the bottom which is a bummer, but it's small so 
> probably would have been overkill. 
>
> im gonna call riv tomrrow to ask about the kickstand. so far the rat tail 
> filing out the hole to the left seems to make the most sense, and i get 
> with enough torque there wouldn't be any reason for the kickstand to move 
> back and forth along the elongated hole. we'll see if they cosign this idea 
> or have a better one. i'm sure they've dealt w it before.
>
> thanks everyone - better pics to come hopefully this weekend.
>
>
>
> On Tuesday, December 7, 2021 at 2:45:01 AM UTC-5 Ed Carolipio wrote:
>
>> > does anyone have any rack-less recs for sackville saddle bag thats an 
>> inch too low and touching the rear wheel?
>>
>> I have small frames and low saddles. I've used both the Swift Industries 
>> Catalyst (reinforced X-pac) and the Jacks Supply Co Little Slugger (Cordura 
>> or X-pac) successfully. Both have a plastic insert which maintains the body 
>> shape when empty. Not very big but can be overstuffed and has loops on the 
>> lid to tie on stuff. Both also work well as handlebar bags with longer 
>> Voile straps and foam spacers.
>>
>> > i was hoping to avoid racks on this back entirely just because my city 
>> bike has front and rear racks, and generally all the fixings.
>>
>> Would you mind a saddle bag rack? The Carradice Bagman Sport works well 
>> with larger saddle bags, like the Swift Industries Zeitgest, and it's not 
>> as big a commitment as a dedicated rear rack. Someone mentioned the Ocean 
>> Cycles Erlen rack - very elegant and blingy but designed for the Nitto S-83 
>> so can be a roll of the dice with other seat posts.
>>
>> > the bag is the slim sucker.
>>
>> Is your rear flap too long? I bought one recently and the bottom cleared 
>> by 3/4" even when I stuffed it but the too-long flap flopped over and 
>> rubbed the rear tire. Will said that was ...  not right - actually a couple 
>> of inches too long - and I returned the bag for a refund.
>>
>> --Ed C.
>>
>> On Monday, December 6, 2021 at 8:08:33 PM UTC-8 Brent B wrote:
>>
>>> Michael, 
>>>
>>> I also have a very small amount of kickstand rub on one of my bikes with 
>>> a very slightly out of true rear wheel, and had a neat idea for temporarily 
>>> fixing it the other day: 
>>> [image: kickstand-tire-rub-hack.jpg] 
>>> I swear, I will true that wheel eventually, and NOT just totally forget 
>>> about it because it's not making that noise anymore!
>>>
>>> I've had some success using a "Pec Deck 
>>> <https://ronsbikes.com/products/pec-deck-chest-support>" style support 
>>> for a rear saddlebag on my Atlantis. Gotta say, the idea sketches me out 
>>> as-intended for a front handlebar bag, but as a means to buy an extra 
>>> couple of inches of clearance over the rear wheel it seems safe enough. 
>>> Worst case scenario is the bag rubs your tire a bit. 
>>>
>>> I cobbled one together from Carradice Bagman support struts 
>>> <https://carradice.co.uk/product/bagman-support-struts/> and a Nitto 
>>> strut. In the attached I'm using a Road Runner Jumbo Jammer which is has a 
>>> mount or strap every few inches all over itself. I can't tell if the Slim 
>>> Sucker bag has any kind of mounting point around the rear/back of the bag 
>>> that would work for this though.
>>>
>>> [image: rear pec.jpg]
>>> [image: makeshift pec deck.jpg]
>>> [image: bag sag.jpg]
>>>
>>> -Brent
>>>
>>>

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[RBW] Re: Minimotos on a Quickbeam?

2021-12-06 Thread Bones
Not on a QB but on a different single speed. The stopping power is 
unmatched in my opinion. No issues with tire clearance, you could probably 
clear a slick up to 45-48mm (not with fenders though!). I would not 
recommend routing the cable through the holder; just run it like normal 
V-brakes. On my SS I ended up using a minimoto in the front and a neo-retro 
in the rear so that I could continue using the rear brake bridge. Most of 
the stopping power is in the front anyway. 

Bones

On Monday, December 6, 2021 at 8:57:30 AM UTC-5 Wally Estrella wrote:

> I've ridden my Quickbeam for about 2 gazillion miles.  Give or take a 
> gazillion.  The Neo-retros have been good at stopping this Orc sized 
> rider.  I'm guessing the MiniMotos will be even better.   
>
> Any others try Minimotos on their QB? Good for stopping? And I'm guessing 
> no issues for tire clearance (currently has Shikoro 42s on it).
>
> Also, did you run the rear cable into the center holder then out to the 
> noodle or just from the directly into the noodle from around the seatpost?
>
> Thanks,
> Wally in Maine
>

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[RBW] Re: WTB: Paul Racer Silver

2021-11-22 Thread Bones
PM sent.

Bones

On Sunday, November 21, 2021 at 8:51:20 PM UTC-5 Drurad (Sacramento) wrote:

> Gonna do my best to pick up a Homer this Tuesday.  Anyone have a set of 
> Paul Racers in Silver they are willing to part with.  If so, let me know.
>
> Many Thanks,
>
> andrew
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Re: [RBW] Re: Large pedals, thumbs up

2021-11-18 Thread Bones
SimWorks Bubbly pedals 
<https://www.sim.works/collections/simworks-by-mks/products/bubbly-pedals> 
are awesome too (if you can get your hands on them!). Large platform, 
grippy, and very well made. I have large narrow feet but I still appreciate 
the extra real estate.

Bones

On Thursday, November 18, 2021 at 1:02:40 PM UTC-5 Paul Brodek wrote:

> Thanks to Abe for the heads-up on currently available long/wide/thin pedal 
> platform options.
>
> I thought it might be worth mentioning to those who try to minimize pedal 
> tread width that it seems like some of these uber-thin pedals have inner 
> bearing/body dimensions that require feet to sit 5-10mm outboard of the 
> inner surface of the crankarms, potentially adding 10-20mm of foot width. 
> I'm not particularly sensitive to this, and though there have been times in 
> bobbish/RBW  past when this was a hot topic, it doesn't surface regularly 
> these days, just thought I'd point it out just in case. If that's something 
> that bothers you, might be worthwhile looking for platforms that are flat 
> all the way across the top.
>
> Paul Brodek
> Hillsdale, NJ USA  
> On Wed, Nov 17, 2021 at 2:12 PM Pancake  wrote:
>
>> Always looking for wider pedals for my 6E width feet, I've ended up with 
>> a relatively affordable option that's as wide as I can find:
>> Kona Wah Wah 2 (a.k.a., Wah Wah II) - 
>> https://com.konaworld.com/product/accessories/pedals/wah-wah-2-composite/
>>
>> Found for $50-65 online, these are about 120mm long x 118mm wide x 13mm 
>> thick. 
>>
>> They're basically a significantly wider/longer VP 001 or VP Vice pedal, 
>> but in plastic composite (there's a more dear metal version too).[image: 
>> Wah-Wah-2-38.jpg]
>> Generic versions are available on Aliexpress and other sites for about 
>> half the cost.
>>
>> Wider and wiser,
>> Abe
>>
>> On Wednesday, 17 November 2021 at 06:52:45 UTC-8 Pam Bikes wrote:
>>
>>> I have some VP thin gripsters that are great and grippy but a friend 
>>> warned me they'll "eat your shoes".  I looked and he was right.  I wear 
>>> thin soled barefoot shoes like Five Fingers and Xero.  So I switched to the 
>>> plastic flats like Riv uses and I like them.  I've had the steel pins eat 
>>> my shins one too many times on a bumpy road.  I wore out the bearing on one 
>>> so I got another pair I've yet to put on.  Pedals are mismatched for the 
>>> time being but no one notices.  
>>>
>>> On Monday, November 15, 2021 at 1:24:50 PM UTC-5 joseph...@gmail.com 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Large pedals gets two thumbs up from me.  
>>>> I'm a big fan of the DEITY.  Either the Black Kats or Deftrap
>>>> I have a pair of the Black Kats on my Gus and will be swapping them for 
>>>> the Deftraps so the Black Kats can go on my wife's Cheviot 
>>>>
>>>> https://www.deitycomponents.com/pedals.html
>>>>
>>>> On Sunday, November 14, 2021 at 4:07:06 PM UTC-6 Paul Brodek wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I've been a VP Harrier fan for some years now. They're wide in both 
>>>>> width and length, while still being fairly thin/low-profile. Discontinued 
>>>>> for some time now, there were also recall notices on the web, but for 
>>>>> versions evidently way older than mine.
>>>>>
>>>>> Not sure there was ever an official VP replacement, but there are 
>>>>> p-l-e-n-t-y of wide/longer platform pedals in the world today, some with 
>>>>> significant pins, others not so much. Looks like a number of duplicate 
>>>>> plastic/composite candidates out there as well, which can be an 
>>>>> effective/cost-efficient way to evaluate a pedal before springing for the 
>>>>> full-metal experience.
>>>>>
>>>>> Looking for flickr photos I'm realizing I tend to totally neglect 
>>>>> pedal pix, despite obsessively documenting ever other square millimeter 
>>>>> of 
>>>>> hardware. Go figure.
>>>>>
>>>>> Paul Brodek
>>>>> Hillsdale, NJ USA
>>>>>
>>>>> [image: 15160652808_6929dbf189_c.jpg]
>>>>>
>>>>> Yeah, focus solidly on the chainring/chain here. Pedals, schmedals!
>>>>> [image: 50135905607_e422cb16bf_c.jpg]
>>>>>
>>>>> On Saturday, November 13, 2021 at 12:52:35 PM UTC-5 Ray Varella wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Over the years I’ve seen numerous comments on how comfortable larg

[RBW] Re: Autumn Is My Favorite Season

2021-11-11 Thread Bones
P.S. Sorry if the images are huge! I did scale them down 50% too!
Bones

On Thursday, November 11, 2021 at 12:40:42 PM UTC-5 Bones wrote:

> I managed to sneak out for a short ride with my buddy yesterday. I helped 
> him find and build a Clem H earlier this year. He's having a blast on it. I 
> have had way too few opportunities for joy rides lately so this was most 
> welcome.
>
> [image: IMG_6949.JPG][image: IMG_6953.JPG]
>
> Bones
> On Wednesday, November 10, 2021 at 7:28:02 AM UTC-5 Takashi wrote:
>
>> Some more pictures from last Saturday and Sunday.
>> Sorry about non-Riv bike; at least it's equipped with Sackville panniers.
>>
>> Takashi
>>
>>
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[RBW] Re: Night riding

2021-11-09 Thread Bones
I too commute year-round and I ride primarily at night. I work evenings and 
nights and commute via bicycle, and I've been doing so for about ten years 
so I'll add some safety tips. I took a pretty nasty midnight spill back in 
May. I took a right hand turn a bit too close to the curb and could not see 
the thin layer of gravel/sand on the street. It was pitch black, no cars 
around, I had a dynamo on the bike, and I was traveling at about 15mph. 
Still didn't see it. The bike went out from under me and I skid about 15ft. 
So lesson number one was to slow down on the turns and take 'em wide. The 
bike was almost completely unharmed, except for a minor scuff to the left 
grip and a lovely new red paint job, courtesy of my palms. Plenty of 
bruising and scrapes but mostly on my hands, which I suppose instinctively 
did their job. I went back the next day to collect the pieces of my apple 
watch, which did a fantastic job protecting my wrist. That was lesson 
number two: always wear gloves. After I got up and realized how bad it was 
I reached into my BananaSax and pulled out a bandana, which made a great 
tourniquet. I wish I had packed two though, as both palms were in very bad 
shape. Lesson number three: always pack a few bandanas.

I'm not adding this to discourage anyone from riding at night, I just hope 
other folks can learn from my mistakes. I love riding at night, especially 
late. Few cars, no sounds... it's a whole different world. Like Roberta 
stated: very stress relieving and soothing. *Especially* after work.

Bones

On Tuesday, November 9, 2021 at 5:35:57 AM UTC-5 ascpgh wrote:

> I like to separate the arms race of lumens and reflective area on my night 
> rides. They are slower, tend to last longer if I'm not on a to-bed schedule 
> for early wake up. Not so concerning after this weekend. I was at the dog 
> park with my pup and before I really took note of the sunset. 64° was 
> headed for the 40°s under the clear skies and I was in shorts, T-shirt and 
> a shell.
>
> I've reported on night rides around here before, where there are 
> definitely two cultures of dark riding. One that starts around the corner 
> from my house has been more of a Dirty Dozen Bike Race 
> <https://youtu.be/Mb6KnHV7Tqc> training ride and has been running three 
> sadomasochistic hours and thirty miles weekly. The other began with my 
> friend and me after the regular riding season meeting at that coffee shop 
> ended in October. We meander, we invite new to the dark riders, we go 
> places the high tempo riders skip for better paces and miles while they 
> train for the Dirty Dozen bike Race originated by ultra rider Danny Chew. 
> They all tend to be on their road racing bikes with battery lights. I have 
> evolved (over 25? years) to dyno hubs, wired LED head and taillights, 
> carrying a rechargeable set to back others up in case of a fail. Don't like 
> phantom bikes around me unless we're clustering around a rider who's 
> batteries died. A few of us continue into the bad weather, be it wet or 
> cold. It adds to the challenging character of night riding. Headlights 
> redefine a place you ride in the daylight, focussing on what's important 
> and redefining all else. 
>
> I like to include photo stops, curious passageways, local sights and 
> surprising connections. Food and drink often involved. Too hard for new 
> initiates to dark riding to grasp the fast cool of darkness mentioned by 
> Denis in NC and adequately provide for full spectrum physical output so we 
> try not to get too sweat soaked at any point although everyone's experience 
> (effort/perspiration) will vary on any given hill so accommodation is my 
> byword. I like to have a big enough bag on my bike to carry extra layers 
> ("normalizing" items for a restaurant) and a lock for stops.
>
> I commute year round and my days begin and end with my rides before 
> sunrise and after sunset for all but about three months and a week or so of 
> the year. I pedal each leg allowing myself to be amazed and let some 
> wonderment into my head. One neighborhood on my route has made quite a 
> resurgence in the fifteen years I've been pedaling through it. Businesses 
> have anchored, people have reason to be there and a core of artisans have 
> been promoting a "First Fridays" evening sidewalk festival for years now 
> with businesses open sidestreets marketplaces sprouted for the night adding 
> to the resident restaurants, coffee shops, a tea house and microbrewery. 
> Takes all the stress from work out of my head or clears it to begin another 
> day.  
>
> From rides past:
> Tuesday Night Ride <https://photos.app.goo.gl/DouQYdAJaD4zs14c7>
> Another Tuesday Night Ride <https://goo.gl/photos/9okrqUcHNFjbav3v7>
> Tuesday Night "Dark Roast" Ride <htt

[RBW] Re: LF Single Speed Frame

2021-11-09 Thread Bones
Looks great Bill, thanks! And update: I've found a frame. Thanks everyone 
for your help. If anyone is interested in my Wabi (58cm Thunder in Desert 
Turqouise), PM me.

Bones

On Saturday, November 6, 2021 at 10:37:05 AM UTC-4 Bill Lindsay wrote:

> Here's a small flickr album from when I did the build a couple months back:
>
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/45758191@N04/albums/72157719573693918
>
> Bill Lindsay
> El Cerrito, CA
>
> On Friday, November 5, 2021 at 10:10:28 AM UTC-7 Bones wrote:
>
>> Oh and Bill I'd love to see your Florida Man!
>>
>> Bones
>>
>> On Friday, November 5, 2021 at 12:38:13 PM UTC-4 Bones wrote:
>>
>>> But then I'll need to find a new Pizza bike! Wait, does this mean I have 
>>> too many bikes!?
>>>
>>> [image: fm03.jpg]
>>>
>>> Bones
>>> On Friday, November 5, 2021 at 11:43:00 AM UTC-4 Bill Lindsay wrote:
>>>
>>>> It appears there are still large size Crust Florida Man framesets in 
>>>> stock.  I run one of those as my 'commuter' in flattish Wayne County 
>>>> Michigan, where I travel for work several times a year.  Last month I did 
>>>> a 
>>>> fixed 200k on it with Detroit Randonneurs.  I love the bike.  I run the 
>>>> Large-58 with my 75.5cm SH.  
>>>>
>>>> Bill Lindsay
>>>> El Cerrito, CA
>>>>
>>>> On Friday, November 5, 2021 at 8:21:32 AM UTC-7 Bones wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> The Wabi I've been commuting on is perfect in spirit but it's just too 
>>>>> small. If anyone has a frame for sale (i.e. 62-64 Quickbeam, Simpleone ~ 
>>>>> whatever for 80cm saddle height), I'd be interested. Similarly, if anyone 
>>>>> can point to something else that might fit the bill, I'd appreciate it. 
>>>>> The 
>>>>> forthcoming Roaduno looks like it would be perfect, but I'm not sure I 
>>>>> can 
>>>>> hold out that long. I've got lots of single speed stuff and my commute is 
>>>>> short and flat so I'd really like to stick with a SS frame.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks!
>>>>> Bones
>>>>>
>>>>

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Re: [RBW] LF Single Speed Frame

2021-11-05 Thread Bones
Eric, thanks for the offer. Those look nice but not exactly what I'm 
looking for.

Mackenzy, awesome bike! Looks like a lot of fun, thanks for sharing.

Erik, good point about the Kilo WT. I actually have a few TT's in my attic 
collecting dust. Fun bikes but they've fallen out of favor for me lately.

Max, I'll drop you a line. A Simpleone is more along the lines of what I'm 
looking for.

Bones



On Friday, November 5, 2021 at 9:55:58 PM UTC-4 Patrick Moore wrote:

> Thanks, Eric, that's very useful and very surprising, to me at any rate; 
> $500?? Even for a stout frame with toothpaste welding beads. Their frames 
> won't be any stouter than the Monocog or the Fargo steel or Krampus I've 
> looked at, and since the whole point of the frame is to get something that 
> can exploit the full 3" fatness of the Rangers at 12 or 13 psi, I expect 
> that ride will suffer very little compared to thinner steel.
>
> I'd be interested to hear of others who have dealt with Marino.
>
> On Fri, Nov 5, 2021 at 7:46 PM Eric Daume  wrote:
>
>> Marino is a legit builder. Based on my n=1 experience, expect to pay 
>> about $4-500 and wait 5-6 months to get it. 
>>
>> But expect a more workmanlike burly frame, not a Jan Heine refined thin 
>> wall cruiser. They hit my geo right on, but even with relatively skinny 
>> tubing (for an mtb) my frame has kind of a heavy ride with a somewhat harsh 
>> rear end. Not a lot of compliance here. But at $400ish, I can’t complain. 
>>
>> Eric 
>>
>> On Friday, November 5, 2021, Patrick Moore  wrote:
>>
> On Fri, Nov 5, 2021 at 3:28 PM Mackenzy Albright  
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> if you have a bit of patience and feel like being creative you could 
>>>> just get a custom made - 
>>>> https://www.marinobike.com/product/custom-gravel-fixed-cyclocross-frame/
>>>
>>>
>>> MacKenzy: Are you familiar with Marino? Are they legit, and is the 
>>> website and price list up to date? I ask because this jumped out at me:
>>>
>>> *Description: A full custom geometry TIG welded frame starts at 
>>>  US$280. Building time frame: 14 weeks*
>>>
>>> Is that a typo, and should it be $2800? Or are these prices from 2005? 
>>> I'd immediately guess "yes" except, look at the prices he quotes for 
>>> *worldwide* frame shipping! $110 for 1, $150 for 2. 
>>>
>>> Can you say? Anyone else?
>>>
>>> He seems to offer frames for 700C X 3" wheels, and that's what I'm 
>>> hoping to get in replacement for the Monocog so I can use the true 3" width 
>>> of the WTB Rangers (currently at about 71 mm on the skinny 24 mm ED Alex 
>>> rims).
>>>
>>> Thanks.
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[RBW] Re: LF Single Speed Frame

2021-11-05 Thread Bones
Oh and Bill I'd love to see your Florida Man!

Bones

On Friday, November 5, 2021 at 12:38:13 PM UTC-4 Bones wrote:

> But then I'll need to find a new Pizza bike! Wait, does this mean I have 
> too many bikes!?
>
> [image: fm03.jpg]
>
> Bones
> On Friday, November 5, 2021 at 11:43:00 AM UTC-4 Bill Lindsay wrote:
>
>> It appears there are still large size Crust Florida Man framesets in 
>> stock.  I run one of those as my 'commuter' in flattish Wayne County 
>> Michigan, where I travel for work several times a year.  Last month I did a 
>> fixed 200k on it with Detroit Randonneurs.  I love the bike.  I run the 
>> Large-58 with my 75.5cm SH.  
>>
>> Bill Lindsay
>> El Cerrito, CA
>>
>> On Friday, November 5, 2021 at 8:21:32 AM UTC-7 Bones wrote:
>>
>>> The Wabi I've been commuting on is perfect in spirit but it's just too 
>>> small. If anyone has a frame for sale (i.e. 62-64 Quickbeam, Simpleone ~ 
>>> whatever for 80cm saddle height), I'd be interested. Similarly, if anyone 
>>> can point to something else that might fit the bill, I'd appreciate it. The 
>>> forthcoming Roaduno looks like it would be perfect, but I'm not sure I can 
>>> hold out that long. I've got lots of single speed stuff and my commute is 
>>> short and flat so I'd really like to stick with a SS frame.
>>>
>>> Thanks!
>>> Bones
>>>
>>

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[RBW] LF Single Speed Frame

2021-11-05 Thread Bones
The Wabi I've been commuting on is perfect in spirit but it's just too 
small. If anyone has a frame for sale (i.e. 62-64 Quickbeam, Simpleone ~ 
whatever for 80cm saddle height), I'd be interested. Similarly, if anyone 
can point to something else that might fit the bill, I'd appreciate it. The 
forthcoming Roaduno looks like it would be perfect, but I'm not sure I can 
hold out that long. I've got lots of single speed stuff and my commute is 
short and flat so I'd really like to stick with a SS frame.

Thanks!
Bones

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[RBW] Re: FS: 59 Clem H Grilver

2021-10-14 Thread Bones
Bump.

Bones

On Wednesday, September 29, 2021 at 7:20:37 PM UTC-4 eric...@gmail.com 
wrote:

> Wow! Who's gonna scoop this sweet ride? 
>
> On Wednesday, September 29, 2021 at 1:58:42 PM UTC-4 Bones wrote:
>
>> A few more pics:
>> [image: Clem03.jpg][image: Clem04.jpg][image: Clem05.jpg]
>>
>> On Wednesday, September 29, 2021 at 1:57:53 PM UTC-4 Bones wrote:
>>
>>> As promised, here it is. I really like this bike but I really don't ride 
>>> it enough and my Appaloosa does all the same stuff. I put it back to a 
>>> pretty stock build with a few changes. Normal wear 'n tear from two years 
>>> of riding in all types of places. Some scratches here and there but no 
>>> dings or anything major.
>>>
>>>- Alex Adventurer 2 rims with Schwalbe Thunder Burts (2.25) - tubes 
>>>in there now but the rims are tubeless compatible
>>>- Deore Hubs, V-brakes and rear derailleur, 105 front derailleur
>>>- Original Silver 38/24 crank (178mm)
>>>- VP pedals (forget the model, bought them from Riv with the bike)
>>>- Chocomoose handlebars, Ergon grips (GA3 maybe?), Microshift 9sp 
>>>shifters and Sunrace brake levers
>>>- Saddle not included
>>>
>>> Looking for local pickup only in southern NJ (outside of Philly).
>>>
>>> $1500 sound fair? [image: Clem01.jpg][image: Clem02.jpg]PM me with any 
>>> questions.
>>>
>>> Thanks for looking,
>>> Bones
>>>
>>

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Re: [RBW] Roadini or Homer

2021-09-26 Thread Bones
Great feedback folks! Very helpful. I have been inspired to keep the 
Roadini. I think I will bring the tires back down to something more fitting 
of the frame, and keep the build lean. At the same time I'm made more aware 
that my Clem H, which has been sitting idle for some time, should probably 
find a new home. My new Appaloosa overlaps too much, and I always grab *it* 
rather than the Clem. That will open a spot in my stable to justify a new 
bike. 

My Hillborne was a great commuter, and I do miss it. I was on the bottom 
end of the fit range on that frame (62cm), and with the double top tubes it 
was just too much bike. I am dead in the middle of the range for a 61.5 
Homer. With the slightly lighter tubing, slightly lower BB drop, and lack 
of second top tube, I think it may be the perfect replacement commuter. Of 
course, it may feel exactly the same, but there's only one way to find out! 
I can then keep my single speed for lousy weather; I have too much fun 
riding that to work with studded tires in the snow (rare as that is these 
days).

Bones

On Friday, September 24, 2021 at 11:55:38 AM UTC-4 ttoshi wrote:

> I have a Roadeo and a Homer.  I ride the Roadeo for fair weather 1 day 
> rides, but used my Homer for multi-day events set up as shown below.  Of 
> course, the Homer wouldn't be a Roadeo when stripped to its lightest, but 
> then again, it has rack mounts and fits wider tires, so it has tangible 
> benefits and would serve very nicely in many categories.  I think the Homer 
> is the right bike for riding with light loads.  I wouldn't hesitate to put 
> on a rear rack and do some light touring too.
>
> Roadeo:
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/42771204@N00/8443093499/
>
> Homer setup for 600k--obviously smaller bags work just fine and would be 
> more spritely
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/42771204@N00/6988274342/
>
>
>
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[RBW] Re: Roadini or Homer

2021-09-23 Thread Bones
Thank you. I ran into that exact trouble with my Sam, which is why it ended 
up like the Appaloosa. As it stands, I have plenty of parts to build a 
complete Homer *and* keep the Roadini as is. I would likely use a dynamo (I 
have an extra Son in my bin), a Mark's rack up front*, *and a BananaSax in 
back. *Maybe* fenders, probably not... though I'd like the option. No wider 
knobbies, no rear rack, no wider rims. I'd probably keep a trunksack up 
front, and I'd like the option for a basket if needed, which is why the 
rack would be necessary. I just don't want to be in a situation where I 
have more bikes than I will be able to use. 

Johnny - I would tend to agree. But I feel like a a 61.5 Homer would be 
closer to a 61 Roadini than a 62 2TT Hillborne, let alone Appaloosa.

Bones

On Thursday, September 23, 2021 at 12:31:34 PM UTC-4 Bill Lindsay wrote:

> In my opinion, if you swapped your build kit from a Roadini to a Homer, 
> the only parts that would have to change would be the rear hub and the 
> brake calipers.  If that's the only things that changed, the resulting 
> complete bike would be within a pound.  In my opinion, that build would 
> feel just as light and fast.  
>
> If instead you used your Homer platform as an excuse to add wider knobby 
> tires, plus fenders, plus front and rear racks, and bags, and used wider 
> rims because of the wider tires and necessary rear hub change, and added 
> dynamo lighting because you're already buying a wheelset, then that build 
> would not be within a pound.  It could easily be 10 pounds heavier or more, 
> and that bike may not feel as light and fast as your stripped down Roadini 
> did.  
>
> Echoing Max it's all about the build.  In my stable, I like having at 
> least one super stripped down road bike.  Mine is a Roadeo.  I also like 
> having at least one All Road bike.  I have several bikes that fit in that 
> All Road slot, including a Hillborne and an Ebisu.  I'd hate to pare that 
> down.  Maybe an excuse would be to buy a Homer, and move your Roadini to a 
> vacation bike role.  Like if you have a relative that you visit often, park 
> the Roadini there.  You may find value in keeping both.  Once you have 
> both, you may find you can live without one.  My Hillborne lives at my 
> office in Michigan, and my Ebisu lives at my home in El Cerrito.  
>
> Bill Lindsay
> El Cerrito, CA
>
> On Thursday, September 23, 2021 at 7:38:52 AM UTC-7 Bones wrote:
>
>> I know these comparisons have come up frequently, but here is my 
>> particular situation:
>>
>> I had a 62 Hillborne. It felt too similar to my Appaloosa, so I got a 61 
>> Roadini. I've been riding that for a year and a half and I love it. It 
>> serves the purpose the Hillborne was meant to serve (the Hillborne always 
>> felt a bit too bulky for my intended purpose... which is primarily riding 
>> on roads with light loads). 
>>
>> Sometimes I feel like I overshot with the Roadini though, and the Homer 
>> would be the best choice. I sometimes wish I could put fenders on it, 
>> without having to go with a smaller tire (currently running Barlows on 
>> Quills --> ~41mm). I sometimes wish I could add a small front rack without 
>> using P-clamps.
>>
>> Being a tall and slender fella, pretty much every Rivendell is overbuilt 
>> for me for any of their stated purposes. What I am getting at is would I be 
>> losing anything if I swapped the Roadini for a Homer? Clearly I would gain 
>> in functionality. I am indifferent with respect to the chainstay lengths. I 
>> just want to be sure that the bike would have the same lighter feel that I 
>> experience with the Roadini.
>>
>> Any insight is much appreciated!
>>
>> Bones
>>
>

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[RBW] Re: Roadini or Homer

2021-09-23 Thread Bones
Thank you. 

I suppose I should include where this bike would fit in my lineup: For 
riding with kids, I have my ClemXtracycle For commuting, knocking around 
town I have a single speed with a basket rack. I also have a very lean 
single speed with higher gearing and jack browns, which essentially covers 
the same type of riding my Roadini does. So I guess the hole in my lineup 
is between the commuter and the Appaloosa. It's pretty flat around here but 
it can be windy. The Roadini is used exclusively for solo rides in the rare 
event I can escape my family. I have tried to justify keeping the Roadini 
*and* getting a Homer but I'm trying to be responsible (<-- did I spell 
that correctly?) for once. They would overlap too much and I could grab 
either one.

Shoji - I have tried narrower tires, which are I'm sure what this bike was 
designed for. The roads around here are pretty chopped up and the ride is 
markedly nicer with the fatties on there. I have Paul centerpulls, which I 
need to keep the clearances, and they don't play well with front bags (I'm 
sure there's some kind of workaround).

Bones

On Thursday, September 23, 2021 at 11:27:28 AM UTC-4 bjmi...@gmail.com 
wrote:

> Good morning,
> I don't have any personal experience with Sams or Homers, but going of 
> what you are describing and what Riv says, here's my take...
>
> You're right in thinking that Homer will be between Sam and Roadini, but I 
> think it's almost identical outside of color, brake type, and according to 
> Rivendell, Sam has slightly stouter tubing. I can't imagine that slightly 
> lighter tubing on a very similarly sized and designed frame is going to 
> yield a significantly different ride/feel. But I'd love to hear from 
> someone with lots of saddle time in both frames to see what they think.
>
> I have an Atlantis and I lust for Sam as a lighter, zippier option for 
> rides where I want to go for hours on roads and light gravel/dirt...so I am 
> totally with you on wanting to find something different enough from my 
> current bike, but I don't think the Roadini would be quite stout enough to 
> be an all-road solution. 
>
> Ben in Omaha 
>
>
>
>
>
> On Thursday, September 23, 2021 at 9:38:52 AM UTC-5 Bones wrote:
>
>> I know these comparisons have come up frequently, but here is my 
>> particular situation:
>>
>> I had a 62 Hillborne. It felt too similar to my Appaloosa, so I got a 61 
>> Roadini. I've been riding that for a year and a half and I love it. It 
>> serves the purpose the Hillborne was meant to serve (the Hillborne always 
>> felt a bit too bulky for my intended purpose... which is primarily riding 
>> on roads with light loads). 
>>
>> Sometimes I feel like I overshot with the Roadini though, and the Homer 
>> would be the best choice. I sometimes wish I could put fenders on it, 
>> without having to go with a smaller tire (currently running Barlows on 
>> Quills --> ~41mm). I sometimes wish I could add a small front rack without 
>> using P-clamps.
>>
>> Being a tall and slender fella, pretty much every Rivendell is overbuilt 
>> for me for any of their stated purposes. What I am getting at is would I be 
>> losing anything if I swapped the Roadini for a Homer? Clearly I would gain 
>> in functionality. I am indifferent with respect to the chainstay lengths. I 
>> just want to be sure that the bike would have the same lighter feel that I 
>> experience with the Roadini.
>>
>> Any insight is much appreciated!
>>
>> Bones
>>
>

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[RBW] Roadini or Homer

2021-09-23 Thread Bones
I know these comparisons have come up frequently, but here is my particular 
situation:

I had a 62 Hillborne. It felt too similar to my Appaloosa, so I got a 61 
Roadini. I've been riding that for a year and a half and I love it. It 
serves the purpose the Hillborne was meant to serve (the Hillborne always 
felt a bit too bulky for my intended purpose... which is primarily riding 
on roads with light loads). 

Sometimes I feel like I overshot with the Roadini though, and the Homer 
would be the best choice. I sometimes wish I could put fenders on it, 
without having to go with a smaller tire (currently running Barlows on 
Quills --> ~41mm). I sometimes wish I could add a small front rack without 
using P-clamps.

Being a tall and slender fella, pretty much every Rivendell is overbuilt 
for me for any of their stated purposes. What I am getting at is would I be 
losing anything if I swapped the Roadini for a Homer? Clearly I would gain 
in functionality. I am indifferent with respect to the chainstay lengths. I 
just want to be sure that the bike would have the same lighter feel that I 
experience with the Roadini.

Any insight is much appreciated!

Bones

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Re: [RBW] Kickstand Recommendations

2021-09-02 Thread Bones
Thanks all!

Bones

On Monday, August 30, 2021 at 11:39:54 AM UTC-4 Eric Daume wrote:

> I’ve found a rear mount kickstand is more stable with a front load 
> compared to a center mount single legger. 
>
> Eric
>
>
> On Monday, August 30, 2021, Bones  wrote:
>
>> Not really, perhaps I should? Are they stable with a front-loaded bike? 
>> That's typically how I carry my gear.
>>
>> Bones
>>
>> On Monday, August 30, 2021 at 9:08:21 AM UTC-4 Steven Sweedler wrote:
>>
>>> Bones, have you looked at a chain stay mounted kickstand, Steve 
>>>
>>> On Mon, Aug 30, 2021 at 8:25 AM Bones  wrote:
>>>
>>>> Here is my predicament: I used the Pletscher double kickstand on my old 
>>>> Appaloosa. It (barely) cleared the 50mm Cazaderos I had on there, but it 
>>>> did. On my new Appaloosa, it does not fit at all. So I tried the Flex 
>>>> single. That works for that size tire, but it rubs as soon as I put on a 
>>>> 2.25" tire. I tried a Soma double kickstand from another bike. It fits 
>>>> fine 
>>>> but it bounces around too much, even on pavement (and it is a little 
>>>> bulky). I do not want my kickstand to dictate my choice of tire. Does 
>>>> anyone have a recommendation for a kickstand that works on a newer 
>>>> Appaloosa with 2.25" tires? Preferably a double but I'm fine with a single.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> Bones
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Re: [RBW] Kickstand Recommendations

2021-08-30 Thread Bones
Not really, perhaps I should? Are they stable with a front-loaded bike? 
That's typically how I carry my gear.

Bones

On Monday, August 30, 2021 at 9:08:21 AM UTC-4 Steven Sweedler wrote:

> Bones, have you looked at a chain stay mounted kickstand, Steve 
>
> On Mon, Aug 30, 2021 at 8:25 AM Bones  wrote:
>
>> Here is my predicament: I used the Pletscher double kickstand on my old 
>> Appaloosa. It (barely) cleared the 50mm Cazaderos I had on there, but it 
>> did. On my new Appaloosa, it does not fit at all. So I tried the Flex 
>> single. That works for that size tire, but it rubs as soon as I put on a 
>> 2.25" tire. I tried a Soma double kickstand from another bike. It fits fine 
>> but it bounces around too much, even on pavement (and it is a little 
>> bulky). I do not want my kickstand to dictate my choice of tire. Does 
>> anyone have a recommendation for a kickstand that works on a newer 
>> Appaloosa with 2.25" tires? Preferably a double but I'm fine with a single.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Bones
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[RBW] Kickstand Recommendations

2021-08-30 Thread Bones
Here is my predicament: I used the Pletscher double kickstand on my old 
Appaloosa. It (barely) cleared the 50mm Cazaderos I had on there, but it 
did. On my new Appaloosa, it does not fit at all. So I tried the Flex 
single. That works for that size tire, but it rubs as soon as I put on a 
2.25" tire. I tried a Soma double kickstand from another bike. It fits fine 
but it bounces around too much, even on pavement (and it is a little 
bulky). I do not want my kickstand to dictate my choice of tire. Does 
anyone have a recommendation for a kickstand that works on a newer 
Appaloosa with 2.25" tires? Preferably a double but I'm fine with a single.

Thanks,
Bones

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[RBW] Re: Next Upgrade for "Michigan Man": a front rack

2021-08-12 Thread Bones
Have you looked at the SimWorks Obento?

https://sim.works/collections/others-simworks-by-nitto/products/obento-rack?variant=12537904758885

Bones

On Thursday, August 12, 2021 at 10:13:17 AM UTC-4 Bill Lindsay wrote:

> I've been riding my Crust Florida Man this week here in Michigan.  I come 
> out every month for a few days at a time for work, and each visit I can get 
> 50-80 miles in.  
>
> On this visit, the big changes have been Rene Herse Hurricane Ridge 700x42 
> knobbies, which do great on pavement, crap pavement, and gravel.  I also 
> have installed SPD pedals, which also are great.  
>
> Now, my focus is on a better cargo carrying solution.  I have a very 
> small, practically free handlebar bag, but it hits my centerpull brake 
> cable and it's too small.  What I want is a front rack.  I will probably 
> borrow a Nitto 27F from my other Michigan-bike and life will be good.  
>
> What I really want is a front rack with a wide porteur style platform, 
> that has a four-point attachment scheme, connecting to threaded bosses on 
> the fork crown on top, and to mid fork braze ons down low.  I'm thinking 
> something like a Pass and Stow up top, but like a Haulin Colin down below.  
> Is there such a rack?  Or am I into custom-rack territory?  Is it time for 
> me to start making my own racks? 
>
> Bill Lindsay
> Wayne County Michigan 
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[RBW] Re: For sale 53cm Rivendell Frank Jones Sr

2021-07-31 Thread Bones
Beautiful. That’s pretty much my dream bike. They didn’t make them in 
larger sizes though did they? Good luck selling it Aaron.

Bones

On Saturday, July 31, 2021 at 4:41:25 PM UTC-4 Joe Bernard wrote:

> I had one of these that was also slightly too small (51cm) but it was a 
> great bike I probably would have kept if my creaky old back hadn't informed 
> me I don't climb hills on singlespeeds anymore. If you're interested in a 
> light Riv road bike with gorgeous lugs and fillet-brazed BB, this is the 
> lightest you'll find. It's my size and preferred color, I'd grab it in a 
> hot second if I could pedal it. Step up, people!
>
> Joe Bernard
>
> On Saturday, July 31, 2021 at 11:56:24 AM UTC-7 A. Douglas M. wrote:
>
>> Hey Doug in Athens,
>>
>> I’ve carried a Pedros Trixie tool since I built up my first fixed gear 
>> (RB2). It has a 15mm wrench, cog spanner and 5mm Allen on it and fits to 
>> cage bosses with wing nuts. Great tool if you have axle nuts. 
>>
>> It is too bad about the mix up. Ultimately, I felt it would be a waste of 
>> time/money/energy to have the seller pay to ship it back to himself only to 
>> resell it. I hope it goes to a good home here.
>>
>> Best,
>>
>> Aaron
>>
>> On Saturday, July 31, 2021 at 12:16:01 PM UTC-6 Doug H. wrote:
>>
>>> Aaron,
>>> Nice build, too bad it doesn't fit and about the mix-up in size. Do you 
>>> carry a wrench on rides so that you can change to the other chain ring? I 
>>> assume you have to move the wheel back to tension the chain.
>>> Thanks,
>>> Doug in Athens, Ga.
>>>
>>> On Saturday, July 31, 2021 at 2:03:41 PM UTC-4 A. Douglas M. wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hello all!
>>>>
>>>> I’ve got my FJS up for sale. You may have seen that I bought it under 
>>>> the pretense that it was a 55cm. Alas, it’s a 53cm. Full geometry is on 
>>>> the 
>>>> blug/blahg/blog, but Riv advises this is for PBHs of 79.5 to 83. 
>>>>
>>>> Currently set up with a Sugino crank Wolftooth/Willow 40/32 (Phil BB) 
>>>> and a White Industries 16t freewheel and Surly 18t fixed cog on Velocity 
>>>> A23 rims laced to formula (origin8) hubs. Low mileage Gravelking SS+ 35s. 
>>>>
>>>> Velo Orange 80mm stem, Nitto B115 45cm bars, newbaums, TRP levers with 
>>>> new Ultegra cables and housing. Brakes are Tektro 556. 
>>>>
>>>> Nitto S83 seat post with a Brooks Pro. Pedals not included. 
>>>>
>>>> Chain has 20 miles on it. 
>>>>
>>>> This was my first time riding a long chainstay Riv. I’m a fan. It feels 
>>>> just as nimble on the street and trail. I believe 3 of these were made in 
>>>> this color and size.
>>>>
>>>> Price is $2300 shipped obo. Photos at 
>>>> https://photos.app.goo.gl/S1K7dDWiZmMcWKSs5
>>>>
>>>> Please let me know if you have any questions.
>>>>
>>>> Thank you!
>>>>
>>>> Aaron in El Paso 
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>

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[RBW] LF Stem: Tallux/Fillet Faceplater 25.4, 12-13cm

2021-07-28 Thread Bones
Drop me a line if you have one in good shape.

Thanks,
Bones

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Re: [RBW] Re: 2021 Appaloosa thread

2021-07-23 Thread Bones
Adam, I would go with a 2x9 or 2x10, silver wide/low with the chain guard. 
Excellent value. Appaloosas are great for hauling lots of stuff, and if you 
take it on trails, I doubt you will need that big ring. Every time I've set 
up a triple on mine, it's never lasted long because I never need that much 
gearing, and it's pretty flat around me. I agree also with the silver 
shifters. I've used the dura ace bar ends that do index/friction, but if 
you don't need that option, the silver shifters are the smoothest thing 
around. Bar ends or maybe thumbies if you've got lots of real estate on the 
bars (Billies, Choco's, etc.). Good luck!

Bones

On Thursday, July 22, 2021 at 12:18:07 PM UTC-4 Kushan wrote:

> Thanks Mark. I am goign to play around with this a bit. My concern with 
> mounting along seat tube is that the gap between the seat stay is pretty 
> wide. While the peg will support the pump near the crank, there won't be 
> any support on seat collar end. Will try it out and report the findings. 
>
> On Wednesday, July 21, 2021 at 5:59:12 AM UTC-7 esoter...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>>
>> Kushan,
>>
>> Zefal makes plastic pump pegs that you can secure around any tube on your 
>> bike. I'm using one on my Atlantis to hold a Zefal pump and it works great 
>> (mine's an FPX , not an HPX, but they fit the pegs just the same). I've got 
>> an extra one if you'd like, let's say $10 shipped. PM me if you're 
>> interested. Cheers,
>>
>> ~Mark
>> Raleigh, NC
>>
>>
>>
>> On Jul 21, 2021, at 07:45, Eric Marth  wrote:
>>
>> Rad bike, Kushan, and congrats! 
>>
>>
>> I don't have any experience hacking an HPX4 but maybe you could add some 
>> felt washers to the piston between the handle and the main frame body to 
>> effectively add to the overall length of the pump when compressed. 
>>
>> https://www.mcmaster.com/felt-washers/
>>
>> On Wednesday, July 21, 2021 at 1:43:24 AM UTC-4 Kushan wrote:
>>
>>> P.S. It turns out that my frame pump, Zefal HPX4, is a tad too short for 
>>> 60 cm Appa (although it fits fine on 61 Roadini). To my knowledge, HPX4 is 
>>> the largest size pump Zefal makes. If anyone has recommendations on larger 
>>> frame pump (or hacks on how to make HPX4 work), please let me know. It's a 
>>> bummer because I just got this one a few weeks ago.
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, July 20, 2021 at 10:41:24 PM UTC-7 Kushan wrote:
>>>
>>>> After a few weeks of obsessively checking, finally got a note from Will 
>>>> that it's ready. Picked up my 60 cm Appaloosa arrived today. I took it for 
>>>> a quick 10 mile spin on local paved trail and ride quality has exceeded 
>>>> expectations. It is joyfully upright (Albatross bars), planted, and climbs 
>>>> well. It makes me want to just keep pedaling and forget about things like 
>>>> speed, heart rate, and strava. 
>>>>
>>>> Here are some pictures 
>>>> <https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1qmhSAPdLch7t-MnDHg_FrrF-rUcY6M8T?usp=sharin>
>>>> On Saturday, July 3, 2021 at 5:46:50 AM UTC-7 Tim Bantham wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Thanks all for posting pictures of your Appaloosa builds. It has 
>>>>> inspired me to hang on to mine and give it more love. Question for those 
>>>>> of 
>>>>> you running wider tires (2.25) How much mud clearance does it leave when 
>>>>> riding a tire of that size. I am thinking about upgrading from 2.0 WTB 
>>>>> Venture tires to 2.25 Thunder Burts. Just wondering how well the tire 
>>>>> will 
>>>>> fit on Cliffhanger rims. Would appreciate any insight on clearances. 
>>>>>
>>>>> On Thursday, July 1, 2021 at 10:54:26 AM UTC-4 bp wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Brendon - Nitto Kite bars. Ordered from Blue Lug many years ago. Keep 
>>>>>> swapping out, keep coming back time and again. Close matches are Soma 
>>>>>> Osprey or Riv Wavie. Beartraps are OK. Comfortable. Aggressive grip on 
>>>>>> shoes. And my shins/calves.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Eric - that's out my front door in central Iowa. 
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Thursday, July 1, 2021 at 6:22:00 AM UTC-5 eric...@gmail.com 
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Brent -- That's a nice looking bike there! The friscalating 
>>>>>>> dusklight is complimentary. Where, geographically, are you riding? 
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Thursday, Jul

[RBW] Re: FS: Tires, New and Like New

2021-07-23 Thread Bones
All items sold. Thanks!

Bones

On Friday, July 16, 2021 at 10:33:53 PM UTC-4 Bones wrote:

> Thunder Burt's are gone too. Still available:
>
> Soma Cazadero, Pair (700 x 42) - $80 shipped
>
> Bones
>
>
> On Tuesday, July 13, 2021 at 8:05:04 AM UTC-4 Bones wrote:
>
>> Antelopes and Paselas are gone. Still available:
>>
>> Schwalbe Thunder Burt (29 x 2.1) - $100
>>
>> Soma Cazadero (700 x 42) - $80
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Bones
>>
>> On Monday, July 12, 2021 at 1:41:04 PM UTC-4 Bones wrote:
>>
>>> I have too many tires. Most have been mounted, half have been ridden. 
>>> All have no wear or next to no wear. All sold as a pair. Includes shipping 
>>> CONUS.
>>>
>>> Rene Herse Antelope Hill (700 x 55) - $115
>>>
>>> Schwalbe Thunder Burt (29 x 2.1) - $100
>>>
>>> Soma Cazadero (700 x 42) - $80
>>>
>>> Pasela ProTite (700x 32) - $50
>>>
>>> Feel free to drop me a line if you have any questions.
>>>
>>> Bones
>>>
>>> [image: Tires.JPG]
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>

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[RBW] Re: FS: Tires, New and Like New

2021-07-16 Thread Bones
Thunder Burt's are gone too. Still available:

Soma Cazadero, Pair (700 x 42) - $80 shipped

Bones


On Tuesday, July 13, 2021 at 8:05:04 AM UTC-4 Bones wrote:

> Antelopes and Paselas are gone. Still available:
>
> Schwalbe Thunder Burt (29 x 2.1) - $100
>
> Soma Cazadero (700 x 42) - $80
>
> Thanks,
> Bones
>
> On Monday, July 12, 2021 at 1:41:04 PM UTC-4 Bones wrote:
>
>> I have too many tires. Most have been mounted, half have been ridden. All 
>> have no wear or next to no wear. All sold as a pair. Includes shipping 
>> CONUS.
>>
>> Rene Herse Antelope Hill (700 x 55) - $115
>>
>> Schwalbe Thunder Burt (29 x 2.1) - $100
>>
>> Soma Cazadero (700 x 42) - $80
>>
>> Pasela ProTite (700x 32) - $50
>>
>> Feel free to drop me a line if you have any questions.
>>
>> Bones
>>
>> [image: Tires.JPG]
>>
>>
>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: FS: Tires, New and Like New

2021-07-13 Thread Bones
Antelopes and Paselas are gone. Still available:

Schwalbe Thunder Burt (29 x 2.1) - $100

Soma Cazadero (700 x 42) - $80

Thanks,
Bones

On Monday, July 12, 2021 at 1:41:04 PM UTC-4 Bones wrote:

> I have too many tires. Most have been mounted, half have been ridden. All 
> have no wear or next to no wear. All sold as a pair. Includes shipping 
> CONUS.
>
> Rene Herse Antelope Hill (700 x 55) - $115
>
> Schwalbe Thunder Burt (29 x 2.1) - $100
>
> Soma Cazadero (700 x 42) - $80
>
> Pasela ProTite (700x 32) - $50
>
> Feel free to drop me a line if you have any questions.
>
> Bones
>
> [image: Tires.JPG]
>
>
>
>

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[RBW] Re: FS: Velocity-built 650B Cliffhanger wheelset

2021-07-08 Thread Bones

PM Sent.

Bones
On Thursday, July 8, 2021 at 12:41:51 PM UTC-4 Ian Dickson wrote:

> Asking $250 shipped. International shipping proved too expensive, so these 
> are available again. This is the set that Riv sells -- silver Cliffs, 
> silver Deore hubs. Maybe a thousand miles on them, mostly on road, never in 
> the rain. Lots of life left. 
>
> I threw a set of used 650Bx48 tubeless ready GravelKings in the box 
> because I have no use for them. 
>
> thanks
> Ian
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Re: [RBW] Riv-ish Top Tube Protection

2021-07-06 Thread Bones
I have a few of those small Blue Lug frame pads. I slide them all the way 
forward or backward on the top tube until I lock the bike up, then I just 
slide it over to protect the point of contact. I think this is a good 
compromise: it allows the bike to shine but still affords some protection 
when I need it.

Bones

On Tuesday, July 6, 2021 at 8:38:49 PM UTC-4 Andrew Letton wrote:

> On the two bikes where the bar-end shifters would otherwise contact the 
> top tube, I use this JandD pump strap to both secure the pump and protect 
> the TT.
> https://www.jandd.com/detail.asp?PRODUCT_ID=FPT
>
> On my commuter which doesn't have the above issue (and doesn't have a pump 
> under the TT), I wrapped the TT with some bar tape in the two locations 
> where I commonly lean it to lock it or strap it to a post on the train.
>
> cheers,
> Andrew in Sydney
>
> On Tuesday, July 6, 2021, 09:31:26 PM GMT+10, Den John  
> wrote: 
>
>
> Hello,
>
> What do people do for Riv-ish top tube protection for their bikes? 
>
> Clear stickers like helicopter tape don't seem very Riv-ish, tend to peel 
> off and look a mess after a while, and possibly aren't the best from an 
> environmental perspective. 
>
> BMX/mountain bike pads with velcro fixings seem ok but aren't a very good 
> match aesthetically. I'm using an old MTB pad at the moment. 
>
> I've seen some ready made leather top tube covers but they don't seem to 
> fit the 31mm diameter tubes on my Atlantis or Clem H. Similarly, Velo 
> Orange had some elk skin bar tape but again I don't think it would fit. A 
> home made leather TT cover might work I suppose. 
>
> I've seen some people put shellacked bar tape along all or most of their 
> TT but that operation looks like a massive PITA IMO and it's not easily 
> removable once it's been done. 
>
> What I'd really like is a canvas cover made of something like Carradice 
> waxed cotton duck (it would match my bags at least) but I've not found 
> anyone who makes something like that.
>
> Any other ideas?
>
> Cheers,
> Johnny
>
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[RBW] Re: ISO 42cm Struts

2021-06-28 Thread Bones
Thanks Garth!

On Monday, June 28, 2021 at 2:44:30 PM UTC-4 Garth wrote:

> A little birdy whispered go to "Ben's Cycle" ! 
>
> On Monday, June 28, 2021 at 2:33:50 PM UTC-4 Bones wrote:
>
>> Riv is out of stock. Does anybody have and extra set they'd be willing to 
>> part with?
>>
>> Thanks!
>> Bones
>>
>

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[RBW] Re: Have you ever considered trading in your Sam for an Appaloosa?

2021-06-28 Thread Bones
Have you ridden the long chainstays? If you have, and you like them, 
there's a point for the Appaloosa. Sure the Appaloosa can probably carry 
more, but do you need to? The *NEW* Appaloosa is definitely better for 
upright bars (I had both a 2019 Appaloosa and Hillborne, which were very 
similar geometrically). The tire clearance and fenderage is definitely a 
big plus for the Appaloosa as well. I have since sold both older bikes and 
I have a new Appaloosa and Roadini. I went with a new Appaloosa for all the 
reasons you listed. Honestly I don't know what I would do if I could only 
pick one bike. I guess I would pick an Appaloosa! But Bill is right, you 
need both. Have you considered purchasing some bikes for your partner? 
That's what I did. Now if my wife gets on my case I just point out that 
*SHE* doesn't need four bikes and to stop counting mine!

Good Luck!
Bones

On Monday, June 28, 2021 at 9:48:13 PM UTC-4 brendonoid wrote:

> The trick is to only sell a bike after you haven't ridden it for five 
> years. *looks at shed full of bikes*. Works perfectly.
>
> Honestly though I have both and the last 3 years the 2 Appaloosa's (one 
> crashed then replaced) have been ridden a lot more than the hillbourne. But 
> that is my preferences, my type of riding, my local terrain, my bike 
> setups, climate etc etc etc.
> On Tuesday, 29 June 2021 at 06:53:33 UTC+8 Joe Bernard wrote:
>
>> It's a sellers market right now, which may not be helpful on the 
>> Appaloosa end for you but you'll definitely get decent money for your 
>> Hillborne. I've only ridden the Appa (it's great) so can't compare, but I 
>> say get the model and color you really want. 
>>
>> Joe "always keep the custom, anything else can come and go on a moment's 
>> notice" Bernard
>>
>> On Monday, June 28, 2021 at 2:30:58 PM UTC-7 Damien wrote:
>>
>>> So here's the situation. I've got a super hot lead on an orange 51 
>>> Appaloosa, but I'm already deep in it with a sage 51 canti Sam. Initially, 
>>> when I was looking at these bikes, I was torn between the two. I ultimately 
>>> leaned Sam because at the time I liked the colour and it was more 
>>> available. Well, things change I guess! I'm more seriously entertaining a 
>>> move to the Appaloosa because:
>>>
>>>- Sweet long chainstays
>>>- Can carry more (?? Is this true??)
>>>- Will likely work better for me with upright bars (Sam felt too 
>>>cramped for me with Albas)
>>>- Better tire clearance for fattish knubblies or fatter tires + 
>>>fenderage
>>>
>>> What I would love to do here is tap the forum's collective wisdom to see 
>>> if the grass is really greener. Has anyone made the move from Sam to 
>>> Appaloosa, or vice versa? What were your feelings? What did you miss on the 
>>> old bike when you made the move? What did you love about the new bike that 
>>> the old bike couldn't live up to?
>>>
>>> I'm approaching this a bit more cautiously since I already regret 
>>> selling another Riv I owned (Roadini - my regret is well documented, I 
>>> believe). That said, I imagine I'll need to act fast to get the bike before 
>>> someone snags it. In a perfect world I'd keep both, but we all know the 
>>> world isn't perfect, and I do have to live within the very real constraints 
>>> imposed upon me by my lovely partner who for some reason isn't cool with me 
>>> having umpteen bikes.
>>>
>>> Anyways, enough of my incessant rambling. Thank you for reading and 
>>> helping to encourage my hobby of buying bikes then selling then replacing 
>>> then modifying then selling then replacing then buying then crying then 
>>> selling then complaining then... (and so on and so forth). 
>>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: Mini Moto Max Tire

2021-06-28 Thread Bones
Nice lookin bike; looks fun to ride. You definitely need some bigger tires 
though! I once tossed some Mini Motos on my Appaloosa with 50cm Cazaderos. 
There was about 2mm between the brake wire and the tire. I was not cool 
with that. Maybe a 48mm slick would be ok, but I'd guess that's about the 
limit.

Bones

On Monday, June 28, 2021 at 11:03:53 PM UTC-4 CoalTrain wrote:

> Hi RBW! I've thrown some bits on the Platypus and so far really love this 
> thing. The ride is about the same as the Cheviot I owned but seems a little 
> sportier since I'm using wavie bars instead of albatross. I need to get a 
> proper set of shoes and am curious for those running Mini Motos with a 700c 
> wheel what the largest size they've been able to squeeze in without 
> fenders? 
>
> [image: IMG_6958.jpg]
>

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[RBW] ISO 42cm Struts

2021-06-28 Thread Bones
Riv is out of stock. Does anybody have and extra set they'd be willing to 
part with?

Thanks!
Bones

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[RBW] Re: Do you stand and pull with upright bars?

2021-06-24 Thread Bones
Agreed. Works well with Albatross, Billie, and Choco bars. In my 
experience, the lower and further away the bars are, the more effective it 
is. Bosco bars work as well but they have a lot more rise, so unless you 
keep them kinda low and angle them a good amount, it won't work as well.

Bones

On Thursday, June 24, 2021 at 3:20:48 PM UTC-4 A. Douglas M. wrote:

> Zack,
>
> I ride albatross bars with Avid MTB levers and thumbies. No problem 
> standing to climb or sprint. 
>
> I really like albatross bars. I might try Billie bars someday but I’m 
> cheap and albatross work so well I might not. 
>
> Mine are shimmed in a 26.0 tallux. No squeaks or issues. 
>
> Best,
>
> Aaron in El Paso
>
> On Thursday, June 24, 2021 at 11:55:40 AM UTC-6 Erik Wright wrote:
>
>> Hey Zack,
>>
>> I ride with Albatross bars on my Hillborne. I also do a lot of city 
>> riding in Philly where just about every intersection has a stop sign. I 
>> stand & pull all the time from just about every hand position on the bar. 
>> In my opinion, it's fine. The one thing I'd say is to make sure you either 
>> use a 25.4 stem or get a shim for a 26.0 stem- the bars WILL scooch around 
>> with aggressive pulling.
>>
>> Erik, Philly
>> On Thursday, June 24, 2021 at 6:05:52 AM UTC-7 Tom Palmer wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Zack,
>>> I stand to climb even with a full load on my touring bike. Alabas are at 
>>> my bare minimum width for this, but body types vary. I transitioned to a 
>>> wider bar and enjoy it more than the albas on this bike. The bars are 
>>> generic chrome steel from a bike I bought long a go, but they just work. I 
>>> had the bike loaded up for a test run this week and climbed well for me 
>>> standing. When climbing or acellerating as you describe, I pull on the bars 
>>> and rock the bike. 
>>> Go for it.
>>> Tom Palmer
>>> Twin Lake, MI
>>>
>>> On Thursday, June 24, 2021 at 2:49:48 AM UTC-4 zem...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>
>>>> I've been interested in switching to albatross bars but one of my 
>>>> concerns is that it'll be difficult to stand, pedal hard, and pull on the 
>>>> bars. I do a lot of city riding, so being able to do this from a stop or 
>>>> rolling stop is a key part of my riding. 
>>>>
>>>> I've watched Dan Stroud's (aka hobocross) video on how he sets up his 
>>>> albas to have more of a "hoods" position, which seems like a natural 
>>>> solution to this problem, but in his video he doesn't seem to stand and 
>>>> pull a whole lot. 
>>>>
>>>> Link to the video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pGokAt6XAi0=152s
>>>>
>>>> Anyone have thoughts/experience with this?
>>>>
>>>> Zack
>>>> Toronto/DC
>>>>
>>>

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[RBW] Re: WTB: Parts for a Build

2021-06-24 Thread Bones
I've got a new-in-box black B17 Special collecting dust. PM if interested.

Bones

On Thursday, June 24, 2021 at 11:20:40 AM UTC-4 Doug H. wrote:

> I seek a Microshift right thumbie for a 22.2 bar. Thanks for asking for 
> clarification Bill.
> Doug
>
> On Thursday, June 24, 2021 at 10:59:31 AM UTC-4 Bill Lindsay wrote:
>
>> Regarding the OPs request for "Paul Thumbie mount".  There are three 
>> models: Shimano/SRAM/Microshift, two clamp diameters, and they come in left 
>> and right.  So I think that makes 18 different combinations.  Which of 
>> those 18 possible combos do you seek?  I can sell you a LEFT, Shimano, 
>> 31.8mm, if that happens to be the combination you seek.  I would sell it 
>> for half-MSRP ($30), plus shipping.  If you want to clamp to the sleeved 
>> part of a 26.0mm handlebar, I could also sell you the perfect shimset to 
>> enable that.  
>>
>> Bill Lindsay
>> El Cerrito, CA
>> On Thursday, June 24, 2021 at 7:44:16 AM UTC-7 Doug H. wrote:
>>
>>> Sorry for another WTB post but my parts acquisition is nearing an end 
>>> with a few more needed. If you have any of the following please reach out:
>>>
>>> Paul Thumbie mount: black preferred
>>> Brooks B17 antique brown or black
>>> Ergon cork grips new or slightly used
>>> Brass bell
>>> Blue or black headset spacers (one inch)
>>> Front rack
>>> Crank bolt wrench
>>>
>>> Thanks to all who have reached out and/or sold parts for my build.
>>> Doug
>>> Athens, Ga
>>>
>>

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Re: [RBW] Re: 2021 Appaloosa thread

2021-06-21 Thread Bones
Sharp lookin' bike Addison. Smart build too!

Bones

On Monday, June 21, 2021 at 1:08:35 AM UTC-4 Kushan wrote:

> Michael - I am having mine built at RWB. They were out of the Appaloosa 
> standard 48mm Shikoro tires and so they recommended 55mm Continental 
> Contact Urban. I don't have the bike yet but given that RBW recommended 
> those with fenders, I'd say 55mm should fit as long as it's not super 
> knobby. I'd be happy to send some pics, once I have the bike (who am I 
> kidding - I am going share pics even if you don't need them :) ). 
>
> On Sunday, June 20, 2021 at 6:20:32 PM UTC-7 Michael Baquerizo wrote:
>
>> Anyone have experience fitting a 55 on an appaloosa? Never spent a bunch 
>> of money on tires before but want to try the yet to be released RH Umtanum 
>> Ridges for this bike.
>>
>> On Thursday, June 17, 2021 at 1:34:53 PM UTC-4 bicycler...@gmail.com 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Doug, I settled on the Soma Supple Vitesse EX as I'm unable to find the 
>>> Shikoros in the width I want (48mm) 
>>> I could've gotten the folding bead Everwear in 48 but I'm a sucker for 
>>> brown sidewalls ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
>>> I'm skeptical of their durability, but having commuted on and gone on a 
>>> loaded tour with Compass 700 x 32 EL tires with only two flat tires I might 
>>> have some kind of good luck in that regard. 
>>> I'll post pictures once the wheel is done and the tires are on! 
>>>
>>>
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>>>
>>> On Thu, Jun 17, 2021 at 10:23 AM Doug H.  wrote:
>>>
>>>> Which tires are you going with on the build? I'm looking at tires now 
>>>> too for my Clem build.
>>>> Doug
>>>>
>>>> On Thursday, June 17, 2021 at 1:16:23 PM UTC-4 bicycler...@gmail.com 
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Okay okay, you guys told me what I wanted to hear. 
>>>>> A Kasai FS hub and my big ol' squishy tires will be showing up 
>>>>> tomorrow. I might swing for a SON someday, but this little guy should be 
>>>>> more than sufficient for my "needs" 
>>>>> Looking like I'll be able to ride it home from work on Sunday! 
>>>>> You know where to find me, Collin. At the very least I owe you a test 
>>>>> ride! 
>>>>>
>>>>> -Addison, laying on my cement floor 
>>>>> On Thursday, June 17, 2021 at 9:01:18 AM UTC-7 Collin A wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Looks like I'm going to have to swing by and see it in person!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> P.S. Dynamo all the way.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Collin, melting away, In Sacramento
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Wednesday, June 16, 2021 at 11:04:53 PM UTC-7 
>>>>>> bicycler...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Kushan, I made off with a 54cm Mermaid and will be building it as a 
>>>>>>> long distance, mostly paved touring rig. It’ll have big puffy tires, a 
>>>>>>> heaving saddle bag, a legendary range of gears, and am trying to talk 
>>>>>>> myself into or out of dynamo lighting. 
>>>>>>> Built the rear wheel tonight, will have the front wheel built once I 
>>>>>>> make up my mind regarding the dynamo. Hoping to have it road ready 
>>>>>>> before 
>>>>>>> the weekend is over! 
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Wed, Jun 16, 2021 at 3:00 PM Kushan  wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> For the folks who managed to get an Appaloosa yesterday (or through 
>>>>>>>> the dealers earlier), what type of build ideas are you thinking of? I 
>>>>>>>> got a 
>>>>>>>> 60 cm Mermaid and planning to have it built as an all-rounder with 
>>>>>>>> 80-90% 
>>>>>>>> pavement usage.
>>>>>>>> On Wednesday, June 16, 2021 at 2:56:25 PM UTC-7 Andrew Stevens 
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> We have a 51 and a 

[RBW] Re: Roadini Tires: Anyone running 38s?

2021-06-17 Thread Bones
I believe the clearance depends on your model year. My Roadini is from the 
2020 batch and I can easily fit 38 Shikoros without deflating. I had Jack 
Browns on there for a short time but will not be going back to them on this 
bike.

Bones

On Thursday, June 17, 2021 at 10:11:39 PM UTC-4 Jeff B wrote:

> I used 38 GravelKings for a while. Definitely need to install with the air 
> out but I have decent clearance. I really liked them, ran the psi very low, 
> tubeless, and the bike would go anywhere.[image: IMG_20200929_145005.jpg]
>
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Re: [RBW] Re: 2021 Appaloosa thread

2021-06-07 Thread Bones
I had a Sam / Joe combo at one point. The bikes were too similar to warrant 
keeping both (both 62 double TT, both had a 62.5 effective top tube). They 
are more differentiated now that the Joe grew a bit longer. So I replaced 
the Sam with a Roadini, and I just picked up a new Appaloosa. Orange. Love 
the mermaid but I'm a sucker for orange. It is obviously faster too. You 
aren't kidding about the "everywhere but Riv" comment. I've been waiting 
for them to come in and happened to pull up Crust's site Thursday night 
when I saw them available. Two days later I received it and built it. No 
pics yet though. I'm preparing for a trip to Vermont this week, and I plan 
on bringing it. I'm pretty close to my dream Riv lineup now: Roadini with 
drops for road riding, Appaloosa with swept back Billies, and of course my 
Mad Max Clem H off-road rig.

Bones

On Sunday, June 6, 2021 at 10:55:08 PM UTC-4 Jason Fuller wrote:

> bicyclerepairium (sorry not sure what else to call you by!):  I reckon 
> that, while the Bombadil is an awesome bike and I love how mine rides, the 
> Appaloosa probably has its own strengths and is more comfy / compliant with 
> that long frame!  Undoubtedly if I didn't have the Bombadil, I'd end up 
> with a Sam / Joe combination.  Just both immensely useful bikes, though I 
> could say the same about the Platypus and well, most Rivs.  
>

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[RBW] Re: FS: Brooks B17 Special Black, Swift Paloma Black, Nitto HAR

2021-06-03 Thread Bones
Price drop:

Saddle - $150
Bag 'n stuff - $170
HAR - $160

Thanks,
Bones

On Sunday, May 30, 2021 at 1:28:46 PM UTC-4 Bones wrote:

> Price includes shipping CONUS:
>
> Brooks B17 Special Black - $160
> Brand new in box, purchased from Riv earlier this year. Black just never 
> works for me.
>
> Swift Paloma Handlebar Bag Black + Various Adaptors - $190
> From 2019. Used only 2-3 times. I always end up with racks instead. This 
> comes with:
>
>- Klickfix handlebar adaptor
>- Klickfix handlebar adaptor with lock
>- Klickfix extender for handlebar adaptor
>
>
> Nitto Mark's Hub Area Rack - $180
> Purchased earlier this year. Mounted to my Clem for a hot minute then 
> taken off. Never used on the road or with any bags. I settled on a 27F 
> instead.
>
> Thanks for looking!
> Bones
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Re: [RBW] Gus transportation machine and uno Cheviot pic

2021-05-28 Thread Bones
Man that's funny, I may have to sell one of my bikes to buy a 1987 Ford 
Econoline if my family keeps expanding. Awesome pics, love those bikes + 
bags. Really makes me want to go on more adventures.

Bones

On Thursday, May 27, 2021 at 5:46:16 PM UTC-4 joseph...@gmail.com wrote:

> Thanks y'all
>
> Appreciate it Jason,  I sold my 1987 ford Econoline to build the Gus.  
> Hoping to ride it until my body quits
> On Thursday, May 27, 2021 at 12:50:58 AM UTC-5 Jason Fuller wrote:
>
>> I sent photos of your Gus to a buddy (@foundinthemountains) because I 
>> love it and I knew he'd love it.  We had a whole conversation about the 
>> awesome details - you have built my favourite Gus yet.  Thanks for sharing 
>> the photos!  
>>
>> On Wednesday, 26 May 2021 at 17:31:45 UTC-7 Roberta wrote:
>>
>>> These look really nice!  Leah (BicycleBelleDingDing) and I were  talking 
>>> (or was she just posting) that people who own Chevs just love them.  They 
>>> rarely come up for resale.
>>>
>>> Happy riding.
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, May 26, 2021 at 6:54:17 PM UTC-4 Lucky wrote:
>>>
>>>> Joseph, this is rad. Love the useful packs everywhere!
>>>>
>>>> On May 26, 2021, at 15:40, Joseph  wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Some pictures of my 54 Gus and a 55 Cheviot.  
>>>>
>>>> Both bikes were purchased through Chris Wiggins at the Physic 
>>>> Derailleur in Indianapolis, because at the time he was the closest Riv 
>>>> dealer to Chicago.  
>>>> Chris is an excellent human and has taken very good care of us.  He 
>>>> even let me order my Gus through Riv during the pre-order to save some 
>>>> money.  
>>>> The Gus is built for long trips with off roading in mind, specifically 
>>>> a trip that will start in Orcas Island and end in Oakland.  It'll be a 
>>>> skateboarding trip by bicycle.   
>>>> The Cheviot is my wife's bike but I get to ride it occasionally.  
>>>> Thanks for looking
>>>>
>>>> Joseph in Chicago 
>>>>
>>>> 
>>>> winter camping trip for friends birthday. He rides the orange Susie
>>>>
>>>> 
>>>> First stop for a S24O to Indiana Dunes and then we noticed I had gotten 
>>>> a flat.  Ironically I forgot to pack an extra tube but Tim who rides 
>>>> tubeless had an extra for me.  On the way back Tim got a flat but sealant 
>>>> wasn't doing the job and he didn't have any plugs.  I planned on going 
>>>> tubeless after this ride so happened to have some plugs in my tool kit.  
>>>> This is one of the many reasons we continue to travel together.
>>>>
>>>> 
>>>>
>>>> 
>>>> Wife's Cheviot on a ride to my folks place along the Des Plaines River 
>>>> Trail.   
>>>>
>>>> 
>>>> Day 2 sleep spot of a 3 day ride to Davenport from Chicago.  This is 
>>>> Lock 22 along the Hennepin Canal Trail.  No bugs, No rain, No tent.  Used 
>>>> tent as pillow  
>>>>
>>>> 
>>>> Fully loaded in Davenport along the Mississippi.  That is a skateboard 
>>>> on the front rack.  Skateboard covered with Rain cover from backpack.
>>>>
>>>> 
>>>> 70ish mile Day ride to pick up truing station.  We took the train home
>>>>
>>>> 
>>>>
>>>> Got some Flat 80 Honjo fenders from Mack's Bikes in Evanston, IL.  They 
>>>> will come off for summer touring trip but be on all winter for commuting 
>>>> through the city streets.  May keep them on If the Safety Tabs from 
>>>> RidePDW 
>>>> will work on them for the quick release action.  
>>>>
>>>> Also installed some of the Paul Motolites I found on Ebay.  The levers 
>>>> came from 
>>>> Tim Bantham via this group!  
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[RBW] Re: Cazadero, Snoqualmie Pass comparisons?

2021-05-28 Thread Bones
Adam, I came to pretty much the same conclusion. I started with Barlows, 
and quickly moved to Snoqualmie EL's on the Hillborne. Not much more width 
but definitely more volume and a cushier ride. I put some 42mm Cazaderos on 
there for a brief period but I too found them sluggish by comparison (I 
think the 50mm Cazadero tubeless is where it's at). I've also used 42mm 
Hurricane Ridges on there (endurance casing), which definitely felt really 
good on the road. I just spent most of my miles on the road so I couldn't 
justify keeping them on all the time. In the end I built a second wheelset 
so I could have one with slicks and one with knobbies. With respect to 
flats I'm very lucky there. I've been commuting into work every day for 
years (including one whole year on Snoqualmies) and only had one flat.. 
after running my single speed into a snow bank during a blizzard.

Bones

On Friday, May 28, 2021 at 9:11:47 AM UTC-4 Adam wrote:

> Hello all,
>
> I've been comparing the Cazadero 42s to the RH Snoqualmie Pass ELs (thanks 
> to a group member who sold me some well-used ones for cheap)
>
> I wanted to see other folks' experiences with these two pretty different 
> tires?
>
> I'm using these on some new (to me) routes that combine sections of rough 
> gravel, singletrack, and road through Philly.
>
> In an earlier thread, I'd been complaining about the slowness of the 
> Cazaderos--thinking it might be the heavy MTB wheels on that bike, but 
> people suggested a tire change and they were correct. With the Snoqualmie 
> passes I get great acceleration and climbing in addition to the plushness.
>
> Now that I've done some of the same routes on both I've noticed that the 
> range of mixed terrain is way more fun on The Snoqualmie pass, with the 
> only real issue being a fair amount more sliding on dirt and roots. Mud is 
> also much more of a thing than on the cazadero. Another negative, I did get 
> two flats in a short ride yesterday. Maybe still working out the pressure. 
> There's also an insane amount of broken glass on these routes.
>
> The Cazaderos feel much tougher, slide less on singletrack, and are more 
> confidence inspiring. They are also way slower, even off road, and make the 
> road sections more meh. They are far less cushy, really noticeable on rough 
> gravel.
>
> I was concerned about the potential for less fender clearance under the VO 
> 52s. So far, the Snoqualmie pass are actually a bit smaller than the 
> Cazaderos. I'm not sure how much more they'll stretch, it's only been a 
> week or so and they're around 40mm, I think.
>
> Anyway, I wanted to hear other folks' thoughts on these two. It seems like 
> the comparable size RH knobby might be the best of both, but I'm going to 
> work with this pair until I wear them out. . .
>
> ---Adam
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Re: [RBW] To My Platypus People!

2021-05-27 Thread Bones
Bike looks great Roberta! Those Billies definitely look sharp. Maybe you 
can organize another ride this year: a Platypus Parade. And maybe I'll be 
able to make it this time.

Bones

On Thursday, May 27, 2021 at 1:44:56 PM UTC-4 JAS wrote:

> Roberta,
> What a beautiful build!  I love the elegant and understated color choices 
> with the occasional color splash (blue light for example).  Someday we’ll 
> have to find a way to ride our mermaid Platys together.
>
> #RivSisters,
> Joyce
>
>
>
> On Thursday, May 27, 2021 at 7:03:09 AM UTC-7 philipr...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> It's not exactly going to change the world but when I look down & see 
>> chain marks on the twine I think, well that would have been my lovely 
>> paintwork if not for. Dallas is pothole central so some chain slap even 
>> when urban riding is to expected.
>>
>> Plus, it's fun to do, took me a few attempts as, unlike handlebars, the 
>> profile of the chainstays changes radically. I cut a few darts on the 
>> inside to allow the fabric to sit smoother.
>>
>> On Thursday, May 27, 2021 at 8:25:46 AM UTC-5 upyou...@yahoo.com wrote:
>>
>>> Roberta, I love it!!!  I bet you can't wait to ride it this weekend.  
>>> Have fun.
>>>
>>> Philip, I saw your twine wrap and was very intrigued.  I've ridden only 
>>> 3 bikes in 30 years and never used a chainstay protector.  Who knew?  This 
>>> is something I never thought about but now I am. 
>>> Kate-Trenton, NJ
>>> my mermaid is currently in the build line-up at Riv...parts have 
>>> been selectedwent with chaco and long stem 
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, May 26, 2021 at 11:58:03 PM UTC-4 Roberta wrote:
>>>
>>>> I think our builds are very similar.  I did see your wrap and twine and 
>>>> it is very nicely done--adds a lot of character.Right now, I have a 
>>>> clear protector on my chain stay, but I do like the wrap.  Silver I think 
>>>> would be nice.  I already own the twine and I think I have silver tape and 
>>>> did that on a prior bike.
>>>>
>>>> On Wednesday, May 26, 2021 at 10:46:13 PM UTC-4 philipr...@gmail.com 
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I see you did go for the 1x - nice choice & a classy build all around. 
>>>>> Make sure they do a wrap & twine on the chain stay.
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wednesday, May 26, 2021 at 9:35:11 PM UTC-5 Bicycle Belle Ding 
>>>>> Ding! wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Roberta, I am SO excited for you. Analog does the most beautiful 
>>>>>> work, don’t they? They never turn out a bad build. Beautiful, special 
>>>>>> details that the owner will recognize and treasure. I love your classy 
>>>>>> Peacock Platy. 
>>>>>>
>>>>>> This will be your first bike built from frame up, right? I can hardly 
>>>>>> wait for you to go to Analog this weekend and send me the pics. Roberta 
>>>>>> and 
>>>>>> I have Marco Polo, a video messaging app so we can get all our words out 
>>>>>> without having to type them. I’m expecting her to send me hours of 
>>>>>> footage 
>>>>>> this weekend, lol!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It’s great to see these Platys get built and will be even more 
>>>>>> endearing watching you all put your miles on them and telling of your 
>>>>>> travails. Like Pam Murray!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Leah
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Sent from my iPad
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On May 26, 2021, at 7:14 PM, Roberta  wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Sneak Peak from Analog.  I don't have the bike yet.  
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The saddle is a B68 that I will be covering with a black saddle 
>>>>>> cover.  Once I realized it was to be Mermaid GREEN and not Mermaid BLUE 
>>>>>> (with my original Peacock theme), I told Candice "just surprise me."  
>>>>>> She 
>>>>>> "gets" me. 
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Understated and elegant.  Colors: Mermaid green, black, silver and 
>>>>>> white--neutrals used as color, and I love it!  Most of the parts have 
>>>>>> two 
>>>>>> colors in them--white/black for the grips, silver/black for the fenders, 
>>>>>> rac

[RBW] Looking for 52 Clem H for a friend

2021-05-27 Thread Bones

I have a buddy who's been trying to get into cycling more lately, with my 
encouragement (yes he has lousy timing). He is currently using a skinny 
single speed beater I built for him. He needs a bike he can use for 
everything (family rides, beer runs, trail riding), and I really can't 
think of a better bike for the job than a Clem. He's a big fan of my 59 
Clem H. I've tried to talk him into the Clem L but he much prefers the 
traditional diamond frame. Does anyone have one they'd like to move along? 
Or anything comparable? Complete build or frame is fine. 

Thanks!
Bones

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[RBW] Re: Centerpull Rear Cable Management

2021-05-26 Thread Bones
Yep, that's the ticket. I've got a longer Nitto one but I'd really like it 
to be adjustable. Thanks Laing!

Bones

On Wednesday, May 26, 2021 at 1:11:44 PM UTC-4 lconley wrote:

> Use a longer hanger. Nitto, Surly, Rene Herse, Paul Funky Monkey, 
> Dia-Compe. Vintage Weinmann and Mafac.
>
> I like the Surly - nice and long, and adjustable. if you take out the 
> adjuster lock nut, you can even get a touch of extra length.
>
> [image: Capture.JPG]
>
> Laing
> Delray Beach FL
>
> On Wednesday, May 26, 2021 at 12:57:24 PM UTC-4 Bones wrote:
>
>> I've got some Paul Racer's on my Roadini. I am using the small adjustable 
>> Nitto hanger. I've never been happy with the bend in the housing (Jagwire 
>> Pro). It works, but it rubs a little and I am looking for tips on how to 
>> get some smoother braking. Length? Bending tips? Different housing?
>>
>> Thanks!
>> Bones
>>
>

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[RBW] Centerpull Rear Cable Management

2021-05-26 Thread Bones
I've got some Paul Racer's on my Roadini. I am using the small adjustable 
Nitto hanger. I've never been happy with the bend in the housing (Jagwire 
Pro). It works, but it rubs a little and I am looking for tips on how to 
get some smoother braking. Length? Bending tips? Different housing?

Thanks!
Bones

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[RBW] Re: Soma Shikoro 700c x 38mm actual size?

2021-05-21 Thread Bones
I've had them on my Roadini for several months. TB14 rims (17.5 ID). They 
measure 36mm. Riv's page for this item notes that they all tend to measure 
about 2mm smaller than listed. I like these tires a lot. They roll nice and 
smooth and I don't have to worry about flats.

Bones

On Friday, May 21, 2021 at 1:55:27 PM UTC-4 Jeffery S wrote:

>
> Is anyone running these?
>
> This review (
> https://www.cxmagazine.com/soma-fab-shikoro-road-gravel-tire-38c-panaracer) 
> says they run a few mm under size on 17.5 ID rims, but I'm wondering if 
> they expand with more miles on them.
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Re: [RBW] To My Platypus People!

2021-05-19 Thread Bones
Leah, I think the rise is probably more important here. The Boscos rise a 
lot more than the Billies, and are only a little bit longer from the clamp. 
If you wanted your hands in roughly the same place, you'd probably need the 
stem maxed out... which is why the faceplater is a good idea. Because the 
head tube angles toward you, the more you raise the bars up, the closer to 
you they get. Judging from the pictures you posted earlier in this thread, 
I'm not sure you could get the Billies that high. However, they still may 
be comfortable if they are lower but closer. I would just try them out on 
your current stem first. You'll know right away if they are too low, too 
close, or just not going to work at all. I didn't consider Billies for my 
wife's bike because A) I didn't think I could get them to a comfortable 
height and B) she is medium to small and I did not think she would be 
comfortable with the extra width. All that said, the Billies are great 
bars. Lots of real estate, nearly as sharp looking as the albatross, and I 
do dig the extra width.

Hope this helps,
Bones

On Wednesday, May 19, 2021 at 8:44:18 PM UTC-4 Jason Fuller wrote:

> Leah - I don't think the 90 will be too short for you, although that's 
> based on nothing but a hunch really. The Platy's are long bikes, and my 
> comment about needing a real long stem for Billie bars is geared more 
> towards someone who is moving to the Billie from drop bars and is used to 
> that really long reach they have.  In your case, coming from Boscos, you'll 
> get more than a full fist's worth of forward grip area on the same stem, 
> and I imagine that'll be enough.  If you find the Bosco's reach to be short 
> even when you're just cruising along, then yeah a longer stem is probably 
> due.  
>
> I am ISO that long Faceplater but I swear this doesn't affect my feedback 
> :) 
>
> On Wed, May 19, 2021 at 5:34 PM Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! <
> jonasa...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Jason, do you think my 90 stem is going to bring the Billie bars too 
>> close to me? I can't find an 11cm Tallux (which I think would work) but 
>> there's a used 135 mm Faceplater (which is really 124mm accounting for 
>> rise) I might be able to get my hands on. Would Billies with the 135 
>> Faceplater be too much reach? I don't want to lean so far forward that I'm 
>> bearing weight on my hands. I also don't want to be bolt upright. 
>>
>> Bones, you might have insight here as well...
>>
>> I'm sure the other Platy owners would love to know for their own builds...
>> Leah  
>>
>> On Monday, May 17, 2021 at 4:22:43 PM UTC-7 Jason Fuller wrote:
>>
>>> Leah, I think you absolutely made the right call going with a Billie 
>>> bar.  That bar has bar-none (heh) the largest range of fore-aft hand 
>>> positions of the options I'm familiar with.  On the Boscos, while it's 
>>> common practice to wrap the bar ahead of the brake lever, I don't see how 
>>> anyone makes decent use of this area as a hand position.  However, while 
>>> the Billie extends back almost as far for cruising along, you can very 
>>> comfortably and naturally slide your hands all the way into the front 
>>> "hooks", which is a bunch of inches forward.  These bars are so long your 
>>> stem length does little more than determine where along the bar you put 
>>> your brake levers - I suggest positioning them for your most popular hand 
>>> position;  Rivendell puts them further back on the bar than I would, I like 
>>> 1.5 grip's worth about behind the levers, and it's still comfortable to put 
>>> your hands forward even if they rest atop the levers partially.  
>>>
>>> Tangentially related, a surprise benefit to the Paul levers, beyond 
>>> their incredibly smooth operation, is that the clamp is extremely low 
>>> profile and therefore comfortable to rest your hands on.  
>>>
>>> My attachment is my opinion on the useful grip area of the Bosco (left) 
>>> and the Billie (right)
>>>
>>> On Mon, May 17, 2021 at 4:05 PM  wrote:
>>>
>>>> Where are you located, Doug? I have an Albatross in the garage you 
>>>> could try in Sacramento. 
>>>>
>>>> On May 17, 2021, at 15:59, Doug Hansford  wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Leah,
>>>> The Billie Bar is intriguing. I would love to be able to try out some 
>>>> bars before committing to one. Feedback always helps though. You’re right 
>>>> the top tube is s long even on the earlier Clems. I think on the 52 H 
>>>> the ETT is about 60 cm. So I will need something swept back for sure. 
>>>> Doug
>>&

[RBW] Re: Ride differences between Bombadil and Appaloosa

2021-05-17 Thread Bones
Jason, you had a Clem, correct? How does the Bombadil compare to that? I've 
never ridden a Bombadil, but compared to my Clem H (59), my Appaloosa (62 
2TT) always felt lighter, quicker and more roadish. I never actually 
compared their weight. In my mind the Clem always felt like it belongs 
primarily off the road and the Appaloosa on the road. So that's how I 
always had them set up. That said, I'm a pretty slim dude and I'm sure I 
could ride an Appaloosa as rough as I'd like without worrying about it 
breaking. I dig the long chainstays, and I'd bet the Appaloosa would be an 
improvement for the type of riding you are doing with it. If you need a 
54cm or larger its a moot point though, 700c only. Also, I had a 62 2TT 
Hillborne and that felt almost identical to the Appaloosa, maybe a hair 
more responsive. 

Bones

On Monday, May 17, 2021 at 10:14:57 PM UTC-4 Chris L wrote:

> I've had similar thoughts about my 1st run Hunqapillar vs the Appaloosa or 
> the new 55 cm Atlantis.  From what I remember reading over the years, I 
> think the old Hunqapillars and Bombadils are probably quite a bit lighter 
> in weight than the Appaloosa and new Atlantis.  I remember seeing numbers 
> like "0.8 straight gauge" for the Bombadil and the Hunqapillar is supposed 
> to be very similar to the Bombadil in tubing.  OTOH, Will sent me the specs 
> on the Appaloosa tubing and it's thick, with several 1.x numbers in there.  
>
> In theory, the 54 Appaloosa should ride almost identically to my 54 
> Hunqapillar with the the exception of the chainstay length.  I would love 
> to ride them back-to-back.  
>
> I've thought about picking up a 55 Atlantis frameset when they come back 
> next year, but I've pretty much decided that if I did, I would hold on to 
> my Hunqapillar until I had some time on the Atlantis, and then I would 
> decide which one to keep.  Old Hunqapillars and Bombadils are not not easy 
> to come by.
>
> On Monday, May 17, 2021 at 2:26:24 PM UTC-5 Jason Fuller wrote:
>
>> I know some of you are already chuckling, assuming my eyes are already 
>> wandering towards a new project after only seven months on the Bombadil... 
>> well fair, but mostly I am just looking to do my due diligence given that 
>> a) Appa's are about to be available in Mermaid and b) at some point soon, 
>> I'd be spending decent money on a liquid paint job and a few small braze-on 
>> additions that the Joe already has.  
>>
>> I assume the two bikes ride pretty similarly and weigh pretty similar 
>> amounts (the Bombadil, while a burlier bike in theory, is also Waterford 
>> build with probably lighter tubing than Grant would use today), in which 
>> case I'd stay with the Bombadil.  But my main use-case of the Bombadil, 
>> especially in the future, is longer distance commuting (90%+ paved). So if 
>> the Appa was noticably quicker and more comfortable, that would be very 
>> interesting to me. I realize both are a bit overkill for that purpose, but 
>> I want to keep it versatile for hauling stuff and has to be 650B due to the 
>> expensive wheelset I just built. Mostly, I just want to initiate a 
>> comparison discussion! 
>>
>> New paint would be either palm green / sand green VW bus colours (dark 
>> olive green, and greenish-beige head tube and details), or flat grey with 
>> cream headtube. Additions would be M6 rear rack mounts like the Appa has, 
>> internal tail light routing, and triple bottle bosses on seat tube. 
>>
>> [image: PXL_20210501_231647339.jpg]
>>
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Re: [RBW] To My Platypus People!

2021-05-17 Thread Bones
When I spoke to Vince a few months ago he told me that the 52 Clem was 
something like 7-8cm longer than the 50cm Platypus. If the stock 52 Clem 
comes with a 10cm stem, in my mind that means go as long as on the stem as 
you can with any of the sweptback bars on the Platypus. Just for reference: 
on my Appaloosa I used both the Chocomoose (12cm extension) and Billies on 
a 12cm stem. I never grabbed them at the ends of the bars, and always 
wanted them to be just a tad farther away. Riv seems to have addressed that 
by making the latest generation of Appaloosa a tad longer.

Bones

On Monday, May 17, 2021 at 11:02:39 PM UTC-4 Joe Bernard wrote:

> Everyone's getting Billie Bars! I'll be interested to hear the reviews, it 
> seems like that bar never got much attention after it hit the shelves a 
> couple years ago. 
>
> Fun fact about the FacePlater (I got one recently): If you use lock-on 
> grips so everything is easily removable, it actually takes just as much 
> time to remove and replace 4 stem bolts as it does to loosen one and remove 
> and replace the stuff on the bars. Isn't that a fun fact?? 
>
> Joe "now wants Billie Bars too so he can be in with the cool crowd" Bernard
>
> On Monday, May 17, 2021 at 7:44:49 PM UTC-7 Doug H. wrote:
>
>> Leah,
>> Living next door to a Riv family would be so cool. We could ride and try 
>> different bar setups. I think I will try the Billie Bars and like you said 
>> could sell and try another bar if needed. Now on the stem length. I agree 
>> with Will that the new faceplater stem is the way to go to make bar 
>> switches easier but alas they are out of stock. No problem really as I'm 
>> doing a slow build.
>> Doug
>>
>> On Monday, May 17, 2021 at 6:54:39 PM UTC-4 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Doug, I have Boscos on my 2019 Clem and it needs them. The expanded geo 
>>> on that 2019 frame made me need an 8 cm stem and Boscos and there’s still a 
>>> reach! I don’t think you’ll have that same issue because you have a grilver 
>>> Clem, and those came out before Rivendell changed the geometry. But I 
>>> wonder if your Clem would like a Billie bar… Wish you lived next door and 
>>> we could try it out!
>>>
>>> On May 17, 2021, at 3:51 PM, Doug Hansford  wrote:
>>>
>>> I am most interested in a handlebar discussion. I’ve mostly ridden drops 
>>> on the road and straight bars off-road but am looking for options for my 
>>> Clem build. Albatross seems to be the one I’m leaning toward but am open to 
>>> hear what others think. I had Boscos on my first Clem (didn’t keep it long) 
>>> and agree with you Leah they came back a touch too close to me. 
>>> Doug
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>> On May 17, 2021, at 6:45 PM, Leah Peterson  wrote:
>>>
>>> Also, here’s an article Will wrote with some hard facts and numbers 
>>> regarding Rivendell’s bar lineup:
>>>
>>> https://rivbike.tumblr.com/post/176999224484/an-overview-of-our-upright-bars
>>>
>>> On May 17, 2021, at 3:37 PM, Leah Peterson  wrote:
>>>
>>> Does anyone wanna talk handlebars? I went with my standard Bosco bars, 
>>> but the more miles I ride, the more I’m irritated that the bars feel too 
>>> close to me. I have cramping in my right wrist (not my left, don’t ask why, 
>>> I have no idea and it makes no sense!) when I go really hard and it hurts 
>>> enough that I have actually said “ow!” out loud.I’ve also been known to 
>>> sing and dance on my bike so the locals are used to this behavior by now. 
>>> Anyway, I have a 9 cm Nitto XL stem (it is 280mm vs the 225 mm Tallux) on 
>>> there because the 10 cm wasn’t available. I just ordered a Billie bar, 
>>> which I’m hoping pulls the bars away from me enough, though it’s only about 
>>> 1.5 inches further away from me than my Boscos. 
>>>
>>> Does anyone have a Billie or an Albatross bar on their Platypus? What 
>>> are your impressions?
>>>
>>> Thanks!
>>> Leah
>>>
>>> On May 17, 2021, at 11:08 AM, Philip Barrett  
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> That's interesting, mine is a very tight fit as well, 2 more mm and it 
>>> would not be a fit at all. It's pretty soft aluminum alloy if want to take 
>>> a file or grinder to it though.
>>>
>>> On Monday, May 17, 2021 at 12:50:07 PM UTC-5 Tom Wyland wrote:
>>>
>>>> That kickstand looks great!  Mine is all black and tarnished.  Want to 
>>>> hear an odd one?  My Pletscher 2-leg kickstand (like Phi

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