Re: [RBW] Best Rivendell for pavement riding

[Damien]

I had a Sam up until recently but sold it and have very recently replaced 
with a Ram which I've yet to get out on (am going to swap out the Albatross 
currently on them for drop bars). Not sure what size you're looking at, but 
the thing for me was I wanted a 700c bike, and the Sam that fit me (51) was 
650b. I had a Roadini in size 50 which was great, but ended up selling that 
and keeping the Sam as it better met my needs at the time (dragging kids 
around, carrying random stuff, more mixed terrain stuff). Sam is great, but 
didn't feel as quick (subjective) and was definitely more sluggish in its 
handling on road - felt a bit like overkill tbh. I attribute most of that 
to set up and the chunky tire size I was using on the Sam (650b x 48 on Sam 
vs. 700 x 32 on Roadini). I would say if you go with the Sam for your use, 
42 would be the ideal tire size (as someone mentioned earlier!). 

I can't wait to get out on the Ram to see how I like it, but if it's 
anything like the Roadini, I feel I'll be on a setup that makes sense for 
the type of riding that I do - which seems similar to the type of riding 
you'll be doing! Hope that is in some way helpful!
On Tuesday 5 March 2024 at 08:44:06 UTC-5 Max S wrote:

> Really great points made by Mathias, and also by Patrick in his post about 
> iterating...  
> IMO, the easiest way to find a good bike is to set your budget and then 
> make a post whose subject starts with "WTB:.. " – all sorts of cool and 
> awesome bikes will emerge that fit your criteria! 
>
> - Max "it's a journey" in A2
>
> On Tuesday, March 5, 2024 at 8:14:36 AM UTC-5 mathiass...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Hi Chuck,
>>
>> I've never owned a Rivendell, so I believe it's important I chime in... 
>> because of this:
>>
>> >> I tried a Roadini (which I recently listed here and sold), but I think 
>> it was too big for me.
>>
>> It probably wasn't too "big", it was probably too long in the top tube.
>>
>> In the current Riv idea space, the Albatross is the handlebar of choice. 
>> The one Grant says he'll ride when he's old. I'd argue you can't build a 
>> bike that accomodates swept back AND drop handlebars for the same rider in 
>> the same size. The difference is  only a few cm, but they matter. 
>>
>> I tend to pick one bike every year and build it from the frame up, to 
>> ride it and see how I like it, and what I can learn from it. And since I 
>> always use a Brooks B17 and a Nitto Noodle, that provides a handy size 
>> reference. The distance from the saddle tip to the handlebar cross tube is 
>> always the same when I'm done fitting it.. and it matches the ancient rule 
>> that if you put your elbow against the tip of the saddle, the finger tips 
>> should just reach the handlebar. Stem lengths go from 70 to 100 mm, on 
>> frames ranging from from a 52 cm Bruce Gordon BLT to a a 25 inch (63.5 cm) 
>> Cannondale ST600 to and a few in between. Top tube length (effective) 
>> ranges from 56 to 59 cm. 
>>
>> So figure out what YOUR saddle/bar distance or top tube length should be, 
>> and find your size accordingly. Were I to buy a Roadini, and the thought 
>> has crossed my mind, I'd have to go for a fairly small frame. For my 6 ft 
>> height and 89 cm PBH, I'm between the 57 and 61 cm size for the Roadini, 
>> and the 57 cm has a 59 cm top tube, so that would be my size, and the stem 
>> would have to be short, which doesn't look good to my eyes.
>>
>> For what it's worth, our pavement here in freeze/thaw country 
>> (mid-Michigan) is famously nasty, and for road riding, I like 32 mm 
>> GP5000s... add some dirt roads, and I'm currently riding 35 mm Paselas, 
>> which seem to roll pretty fast and do OK on loose surfaces. I see no reason 
>> to go wide on asphalt.
>>
>> To buy any bicycle:
>> - decide on the tire you want to ride, which means pick the target roads 
>> and routes.
>> - decide if you'll mount fenders. 
>> - now look at the frames that will accomodate the first criteria, and see 
>> if you can find your size.
>>
>> It may be that a detour through an older (~1980) Trek or Raleigh is the 
>> way to find your setup... most of the parts will move right over, plus it's 
>> fun.
>>
>> cheers -mathias
>>
>>
>>
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>>  
>> 
>> .
>>
>>

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[RBW] WTB: Drop Bar/Stem/brake/shifter set up

[Damien]

Hi all! Looking for a Drop bar set up to plunk onto my newly acquired 
Rambouillet. Let me know if you have something - thank you!

Damien

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[RBW] Re: FS: 51 Sam Hillborne - Sage Green complete bike

[Damien]

SOLD!

On Tuesday 26 September 2023 at 15:21:57 UTC-4 Damien wrote:

> Just a quick note, it's still here but the Tubus rack and mks grip kings 
> have been spoken for, but all else still available and I'm sure I have some 
> nice flat pedals kicking around to throw on.
>
> On Friday, 23 June 2023 at 14:47:01 UTC-4 Damien wrote:
>
>> Hi all, just bumping as this is still available. Make me an offer!
>>
>> Damien
>>
>> On Tuesday, 25 April 2023 at 09:52:22 UTC-4 Damien wrote:
>>
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>> I've added more pics linked here: Sam Hillborne 
>>> <https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1Lcrtaogb4u8tOARV8RzyX6b1gtR0KOfp?usp=sharing>
>>>
>>> Still for sale, or trade for a 54 Rambouillet or potentially a 50 
>>> Roadini.
>>>
>>> Let me know if you have any questions!
>>> Damien
>>>
>>> On Friday, 31 March 2023 at 18:25:39 UTC-4 Gary L wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi Damien,
>>>> Just sent you a pm.
>>>> G
>>>>
>>>> On Friday, March 31, 2023 at 1:23:09 PM UTC-4 Damien wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>

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[RBW] Re: FS: 51 Sam Hillborne - Sage Green complete bike

[Damien]

Just a quick note, it's still here but the Tubus rack and mks grip kings 
have been spoken for, but all else still available and I'm sure I have some 
nice flat pedals kicking around to throw on.

On Friday, 23 June 2023 at 14:47:01 UTC-4 Damien wrote:

> Hi all, just bumping as this is still available. Make me an offer!
>
> Damien
>
> On Tuesday, 25 April 2023 at 09:52:22 UTC-4 Damien wrote:
>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> I've added more pics linked here: Sam Hillborne 
>> <https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1Lcrtaogb4u8tOARV8RzyX6b1gtR0KOfp?usp=sharing>
>>
>> Still for sale, or trade for a 54 Rambouillet or potentially a 50 Roadini.
>>
>> Let me know if you have any questions!
>> Damien
>>
>> On Friday, 31 March 2023 at 18:25:39 UTC-4 Gary L wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Damien,
>>> Just sent you a pm.
>>> G
>>>
>>> On Friday, March 31, 2023 at 1:23:09 PM UTC-4 Damien wrote:
>>>
>>>>

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[RBW] Re: FS: 51 Sam Hillborne - Sage Green complete bike

[Damien]

Hi all, just bumping as this is still available. Make me an offer!

Damien

On Tuesday, 25 April 2023 at 09:52:22 UTC-4 Damien wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> I've added more pics linked here: Sam Hillborne 
> <https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1Lcrtaogb4u8tOARV8RzyX6b1gtR0KOfp?usp=sharing>
>
> Still for sale, or trade for a 54 Rambouillet or potentially a 50 Roadini.
>
> Let me know if you have any questions!
> Damien
>
> On Friday, 31 March 2023 at 18:25:39 UTC-4 Gary L wrote:
>
>> Hi Damien,
>> Just sent you a pm.
>> G
>>
>> On Friday, March 31, 2023 at 1:23:09 PM UTC-4 Damien wrote:
>>
>>>

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[RBW] Re: FS: Quickbeam 54 Orange

[Damien]

Dream bike! Very lucky buyer! I would have jumped had I seen this in time 
(16 hours!)

On Friday, 9 June 2023 at 07:04:00 UTC-4 Ryan wrote:

> Not surprised! That is a lovely bike. I'd have a tough time letting it go
>
> On Thursday, June 8, 2023 at 10:35:55 PM UTC-5 Valerie Yates wrote:
>
>> Sale is pending! That was fast. No time for me to have second thoughts 
>> about passing this one along. Has been a favorite. 
>>
>> Val in Boulder CO
>> On Thursday, June 8, 2023 at 5:23:13 PM UTC-6 Valerie Yates wrote:
>>
>>> I am offering for sale my orange Quickbeam 54 with the parts listed as 
>>> included, below. It is a super fun bike to ride and is in lovely condition. 
>>> I see only a couple of scratches on the front fork where I leaned it 
>>> against a rock when pumping a tire, a small nick on the seat tube, and 
>>> paint wear around the rear wheel drop-outs. The gearing is great for my 
>>> hilly neighborhood. Tons of pictures are here 
>>> . 
>>>
>>> Price is $1800 net to me of any transaction/buyer protection fees. 
>>> Paypal, Venmo or Zelle accepted.  I will  pay to have it professionally 
>>> packed at my local bike store, a Bike Flights partner. Once packed, buyer 
>>> to arrange and pay for shipping directly with Bike Flights. 
>>>
>>> Did I forget to mention anything? Let me know if you have questions. 
>>>
>>> *Included*
>>>
>>> ·   Frame, fork, headset, & bottom bracket
>>>
>>> ·   Wheels: SunRim CR18 silver
>>>
>>> ·   Tires: Compass Bon Jon Pass 700x35
>>>
>>> ·   Front hub: Shimano Deore DX
>>>
>>> ·   Rear hub: Surly flip-flop
>>>
>>> ·   Crank: Sugino 170 length
>>>
>>> ·   Chain rings: Chainguard, 40, 32
>>>
>>> ·   Freewheel: White Industries Dos Enos Blue 16/18
>>>
>>> ·   Fixed cog: Suzue 16
>>>
>>> ·   Handlebar: Nitto 42 short reach, not certain which one but 
>>> likely the M151F
>>>
>>> ·   Brakes: Tektro canti
>>>
>>> ·   Brake levers: Shimano
>>>
>>> ·   Seatpost: Nitto 65
>>>
>>> ·   Stem: Nitto 7 cm (possibly technomic, not sure)
>>>
>>> *Optional*: +$200 to include Berthoud Aspin touring saddle in Cork 
>>> colorway with Berthoud Klickflix Saddlebag. Saddle in great condition. Bag 
>>> leather has some water spots. 
>>> *Excluded:* MKS pedals, King Cage Iris water bottle cage
>>> [image: PXL_20230421_210830887.MP.jpg]
>>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: FS: 51 Sam Hillborne - Sage Green complete bike

[Damien]

Hi all,

I've added more pics linked here: Sam Hillborne 
<https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1Lcrtaogb4u8tOARV8RzyX6b1gtR0KOfp?usp=sharing>

Still for sale, or trade for a 54 Rambouillet or potentially a 50 Roadini.

Let me know if you have any questions!
Damien

On Friday, 31 March 2023 at 18:25:39 UTC-4 Gary L wrote:

> Hi Damien,
> Just sent you a pm.
> G
>
> On Friday, March 31, 2023 at 1:23:09 PM UTC-4 Damien wrote:
>
>>

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Re: [RBW] Re: FS: Marinoni Turismo

[Damien]

Hi all,

Pretty big price drop on this. Looking to get $1100 CAD net to me. 
Considering how favourable the US dollar is to the CAD I hope this is more 
compelling for the group.

Thanks!
Damien
On Tuesday, 14 March 2023 at 12:00:12 UTC-4 wboe...@gmail.com wrote:

> Trying to find good ones.  This one is not :)
>
> Will
>
> On Tue, Mar 14, 2023, 11:43 AM Damien  wrote:
>
>> Will, I'd love to see shots of your '83 Marinoni!
>>
>> On Monday, 13 March 2023 at 15:10:30 UTC-4 wboe...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> I love my '83 Marinoni, especially as it fits 35s under short reach 
>>> brakes.  Made for Margaret van den Bergh, as attested on the fork crown 
>>> :).  
>>>
>>> Will
>>> On Monday, March 13, 2023 at 2:03:08 PM UTC-4 Ian A wrote:
>>>
>>>> It's the original adventure bike for a spot of viaduct camping in Baja 
>>>> California! Cactus thorns notwithstanding.
>>>>
>>>> IanA
>>>>
>>>> On Monday, March 13, 2023 at 10:28:25 AM UTC-6 Damien wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>
>>>>> I know this has been sitting there for a bit but thought I'd try and 
>>>>> bring it back up to the top. Any interest in this at *$1,000 USD*? 
>>>>> I'm happy to throw on the original 3TTT bars/stem if you so desire as 
>>>>> well. 
>>>>> Anyways, let me know if any questions or interest. My 5 month old's 
>>>>> diapers 
>>>>> are getting expensive!
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>> Damien
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tuesday, 2 August 2022 at 10:34:14 UTC-4 Damien wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi all, dropping to $1,100 USD!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thank you,
>>>>>> Damien
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Friday, 29 July 2022 at 12:49:38 UTC-4 Damien wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Ian - thanks for the bump! Really cool to hear (and see!) where your 
>>>>>>> Marinoni has been - Alberta/BC tour looks amazing
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Damien 
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Thursday, 28 July 2022 at 17:30:59 UTC-4 Ian A wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> A bump for Damien! I have a c1999 Marinoni Turismo that has taken 
>>>>>>>> me to the tip of South America and much more recently at 20 day, 
>>>>>>>> 2600km 
>>>>>>>> tour through Alberta and BC. Mine, curiously, had an SLX sticker (not 
>>>>>>>> SPX) 
>>>>>>>> and I suspect it was a special order, but it came to me used in 2008 
>>>>>>>> and I 
>>>>>>>> never met the first owner. Superb road manners, great for rando rides 
>>>>>>>> and 
>>>>>>>> light or loaded touring. Mine just takes 35mm tires under fenders and 
>>>>>>>> as a 
>>>>>>>> sealed road tourer, it's hard to imagine a better choice.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> IanA Alberta Canada
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Tuesday, July 26, 2022 at 7:50:00 AM UTC-6 Damien wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Hi all! Dropping price to $1,200 USD!
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>>>>> Damien
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Friday, 22 July 2022 at 13:42:24 UTC-4 Matt Beecher wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Yep, the other was larger, but these are pretty cool, imo. 
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> https://www.bikeforums.net/classic-vintage-sales/1002852-marinoni-special-triple-rings-cantilever-brakes-great-condition.html
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Friday, July 22, 2022 at 12:34:44 PM UTC-5 Matt Beecher wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Very cool.  I love purple bikes and I remember one like this 
>>>>>>>>>>> several years back on Bikeforums.  I think it was taller though, as 
>>>>>>>>>>> I 
>>>>>>>>>>> recall considering it, but the bike sold before I could f

[RBW] Re: FS: Marinoni Turismo

[Damien]

Will, I'd love to see shots of your '83 Marinoni!

On Monday, 13 March 2023 at 15:10:30 UTC-4 wboe...@gmail.com wrote:

> I love my '83 Marinoni, especially as it fits 35s under short reach 
> brakes.  Made for Margaret van den Bergh, as attested on the fork crown 
> :).  
>
> Will
> On Monday, March 13, 2023 at 2:03:08 PM UTC-4 Ian A wrote:
>
>> It's the original adventure bike for a spot of viaduct camping in Baja 
>> California! Cactus thorns notwithstanding.
>>
>> IanA
>>
>> On Monday, March 13, 2023 at 10:28:25 AM UTC-6 Damien wrote:
>>
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>> I know this has been sitting there for a bit but thought I'd try and 
>>> bring it back up to the top. Any interest in this at *$1,000 USD*? I'm 
>>> happy to throw on the original 3TTT bars/stem if you so desire as well. 
>>> Anyways, let me know if any questions or interest. My 5 month old's diapers 
>>> are getting expensive!
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Damien
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, 2 August 2022 at 10:34:14 UTC-4 Damien wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi all, dropping to $1,100 USD!
>>>>
>>>> Thank you,
>>>> Damien
>>>>
>>>> On Friday, 29 July 2022 at 12:49:38 UTC-4 Damien wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Ian - thanks for the bump! Really cool to hear (and see!) where your 
>>>>> Marinoni has been - Alberta/BC tour looks amazing
>>>>>
>>>>> Damien 
>>>>>
>>>>> On Thursday, 28 July 2022 at 17:30:59 UTC-4 Ian A wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> A bump for Damien! I have a c1999 Marinoni Turismo that has taken me 
>>>>>> to the tip of South America and much more recently at 20 day, 2600km 
>>>>>> tour 
>>>>>> through Alberta and BC. Mine, curiously, had an SLX sticker (not SPX) 
>>>>>> and I 
>>>>>> suspect it was a special order, but it came to me used in 2008 and I 
>>>>>> never 
>>>>>> met the first owner. Superb road manners, great for rando rides and 
>>>>>> light 
>>>>>> or loaded touring. Mine just takes 35mm tires under fenders and as a 
>>>>>> sealed 
>>>>>> road tourer, it's hard to imagine a better choice.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> IanA Alberta Canada
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Tuesday, July 26, 2022 at 7:50:00 AM UTC-6 Damien wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi all! Dropping price to $1,200 USD!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>>> Damien
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Friday, 22 July 2022 at 13:42:24 UTC-4 Matt Beecher wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Yep, the other was larger, but these are pretty cool, imo. 
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> https://www.bikeforums.net/classic-vintage-sales/1002852-marinoni-special-triple-rings-cantilever-brakes-great-condition.html
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Friday, July 22, 2022 at 12:34:44 PM UTC-5 Matt Beecher wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Very cool.  I love purple bikes and I remember one like this 
>>>>>>>>> several years back on Bikeforums.  I think it was taller though, as I 
>>>>>>>>> recall considering it, but the bike sold before I could finalize a 
>>>>>>>>> deal.  
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Good luck with the sale.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Best regards,
>>>>>>>>> Matt
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Friday, July 22, 2022 at 12:03:38 AM UTC-5 Damien wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Friday, 22 July 2022 at 01:02:20 UTC-4 Damien wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> aaand a few more pics
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Friday, 22 July 2022 at 01:01:25 UTC-4 Damien wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Bit of a backstory: I bought this bike and set it up with high 
>>>>>>>>>>>> upright handlebars with the intention of having my dad ride it. 
>>>>>>>>>>>

[RBW] Re: FS: Marinoni Turismo

[Damien]

Looks oddly cosy?

On Monday, 13 March 2023 at 14:03:08 UTC-4 Ian A wrote:

> It's the original adventure bike for a spot of viaduct camping in Baja 
> California! Cactus thorns notwithstanding.
>
> IanA
>
> On Monday, March 13, 2023 at 10:28:25 AM UTC-6 Damien wrote:
>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> I know this has been sitting there for a bit but thought I'd try and 
>> bring it back up to the top. Any interest in this at *$1,000 USD*? I'm 
>> happy to throw on the original 3TTT bars/stem if you so desire as well. 
>> Anyways, let me know if any questions or interest. My 5 month old's diapers 
>> are getting expensive!
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Damien
>>
>> On Tuesday, 2 August 2022 at 10:34:14 UTC-4 Damien wrote:
>>
>>> Hi all, dropping to $1,100 USD!
>>>
>>> Thank you,
>>> Damien
>>>
>>> On Friday, 29 July 2022 at 12:49:38 UTC-4 Damien wrote:
>>>
>>>> Ian - thanks for the bump! Really cool to hear (and see!) where your 
>>>> Marinoni has been - Alberta/BC tour looks amazing
>>>>
>>>> Damien 
>>>>
>>>> On Thursday, 28 July 2022 at 17:30:59 UTC-4 Ian A wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> A bump for Damien! I have a c1999 Marinoni Turismo that has taken me 
>>>>> to the tip of South America and much more recently at 20 day, 2600km tour 
>>>>> through Alberta and BC. Mine, curiously, had an SLX sticker (not SPX) and 
>>>>> I 
>>>>> suspect it was a special order, but it came to me used in 2008 and I 
>>>>> never 
>>>>> met the first owner. Superb road manners, great for rando rides and light 
>>>>> or loaded touring. Mine just takes 35mm tires under fenders and as a 
>>>>> sealed 
>>>>> road tourer, it's hard to imagine a better choice.
>>>>>
>>>>> IanA Alberta Canada
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tuesday, July 26, 2022 at 7:50:00 AM UTC-6 Damien wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi all! Dropping price to $1,200 USD!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>> Damien
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Friday, 22 July 2022 at 13:42:24 UTC-4 Matt Beecher wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Yep, the other was larger, but these are pretty cool, imo. 
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> https://www.bikeforums.net/classic-vintage-sales/1002852-marinoni-special-triple-rings-cantilever-brakes-great-condition.html
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Friday, July 22, 2022 at 12:34:44 PM UTC-5 Matt Beecher wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Very cool.  I love purple bikes and I remember one like this 
>>>>>>>> several years back on Bikeforums.  I think it was taller though, as I 
>>>>>>>> recall considering it, but the bike sold before I could finalize a 
>>>>>>>> deal.  
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Good luck with the sale.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Best regards,
>>>>>>>> Matt
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Friday, July 22, 2022 at 12:03:38 AM UTC-5 Damien wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Friday, 22 July 2022 at 01:02:20 UTC-4 Damien wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> aaand a few more pics
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Friday, 22 July 2022 at 01:01:25 UTC-4 Damien wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Bit of a backstory: I bought this bike and set it up with high 
>>>>>>>>>>> upright handlebars with the intention of having my dad ride it. 
>>>>>>>>>>> Unfortunately he had a significant health scare very recently 
>>>>>>>>>>> (still not 
>>>>>>>>>>> recovered) and I realized that he's not really going to use it. 
>>>>>>>>>>> Plus he's 
>>>>>>>>>>> got some 90's Rocky Mountain which he won't let go of, and I 
>>>>>>>>>>> thought, 
>>>>>>>>>>> "well, if he's happy with this, I'm happy too." So, I tinkered a 
>>>>>>>>>>> bit and 
>>>>>>>>>>> tried to 

[RBW] Re: FS: Marinoni Turismo

[Damien]

Hi all,

I know this has been sitting there for a bit but thought I'd try and bring 
it back up to the top. Any interest in this at *$1,000 USD*? I'm happy to 
throw on the original 3TTT bars/stem if you so desire as well. Anyways, let 
me know if any questions or interest. My 5 month old's diapers are getting 
expensive!

Thanks,
Damien

On Tuesday, 2 August 2022 at 10:34:14 UTC-4 Damien wrote:

> Hi all, dropping to $1,100 USD!
>
> Thank you,
> Damien
>
> On Friday, 29 July 2022 at 12:49:38 UTC-4 Damien wrote:
>
>> Ian - thanks for the bump! Really cool to hear (and see!) where your 
>> Marinoni has been - Alberta/BC tour looks amazing
>>
>> Damien 
>>
>> On Thursday, 28 July 2022 at 17:30:59 UTC-4 Ian A wrote:
>>
>>> A bump for Damien! I have a c1999 Marinoni Turismo that has taken me to 
>>> the tip of South America and much more recently at 20 day, 2600km tour 
>>> through Alberta and BC. Mine, curiously, had an SLX sticker (not SPX) and I 
>>> suspect it was a special order, but it came to me used in 2008 and I never 
>>> met the first owner. Superb road manners, great for rando rides and light 
>>> or loaded touring. Mine just takes 35mm tires under fenders and as a sealed 
>>> road tourer, it's hard to imagine a better choice.
>>>
>>> IanA Alberta Canada
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, July 26, 2022 at 7:50:00 AM UTC-6 Damien wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi all! Dropping price to $1,200 USD!
>>>>
>>>> Thanks
>>>> Damien
>>>>
>>>> On Friday, 22 July 2022 at 13:42:24 UTC-4 Matt Beecher wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Yep, the other was larger, but these are pretty cool, imo. 
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> https://www.bikeforums.net/classic-vintage-sales/1002852-marinoni-special-triple-rings-cantilever-brakes-great-condition.html
>>>>>
>>>>> On Friday, July 22, 2022 at 12:34:44 PM UTC-5 Matt Beecher wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Very cool.  I love purple bikes and I remember one like this several 
>>>>>> years back on Bikeforums.  I think it was taller though, as I recall 
>>>>>> considering it, but the bike sold before I could finalize a deal.  
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Good luck with the sale.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Best regards,
>>>>>> Matt
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Friday, July 22, 2022 at 12:03:38 AM UTC-5 Damien wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Friday, 22 July 2022 at 01:02:20 UTC-4 Damien wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> aaand a few more pics
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Friday, 22 July 2022 at 01:01:25 UTC-4 Damien wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Bit of a backstory: I bought this bike and set it up with high 
>>>>>>>>> upright handlebars with the intention of having my dad ride it. 
>>>>>>>>> Unfortunately he had a significant health scare very recently (still 
>>>>>>>>> not 
>>>>>>>>> recovered) and I realized that he's not really going to use it. Plus 
>>>>>>>>> he's 
>>>>>>>>> got some 90's Rocky Mountain which he won't let go of, and I thought, 
>>>>>>>>> "well, if he's happy with this, I'm happy too." So, I tinkered a bit 
>>>>>>>>> and 
>>>>>>>>> tried to find a way to have this fit me but I could not get 
>>>>>>>>> comfortable 
>>>>>>>>> myself on it (I'm an 80 PBH, standover on this is 81-82, and the 
>>>>>>>>> reach 
>>>>>>>>> still felt a bit long for me even with a short stem and compact bars 
>>>>>>>>> - and 
>>>>>>>>> I'm on a 51 in both a Sam and Hunqapillar and don't feel I would have 
>>>>>>>>> a 
>>>>>>>>> need for it even if it did fit). So, I thought someone here might 
>>>>>>>>> appreciate. 
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Hopefully it is ok to post this here and even if no interest, I'm 
>>>>>>>>> hoping someone will find that the bike is at least cool to look at. 
>>>>>>>>> It 
>>>>>>>>> really is nice and makes me wish I was taller and longer limbed.
>

[RBW] Re: FS: Rambouillet 58cm Orange

[Damien]

Beautiful bike! Whoever gets this appears to be getting a fabulous deal. If 
only it were a 54...

On Tuesday, 14 February 2023 at 14:17:51 UTC-5 jmlmu...@gmail.com wrote:

> Ben is a great guy and a fun riding partner. We've ridden together many 
> times with this bike and I can say $1500 sounds like a steal to me. I hope 
> someone can give it a good home!
>
> On Monday, February 13, 2023 at 8:02:42 PM UTC-8 Jonathan D. wrote:
>
>> This is one of my favorite bikes. I am 6 ft, 85 PBH and also roads a 55 
>> Sam. This size fit me perfect. Hope someone buys it soon.
>>
>> On Monday, February 13, 2023 at 3:51:47 PM UTC-8 bunny...@gmail.com 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hey Everyone! 
>>> This is still for sale. I've had some serious lookers, but no takers.
>>> $1,500 plus shipping?
>>> I need a new computer ;)
>>>
>>> Cheers!
>>> Ben
>>>
>>> On Saturday, January 14, 2023 at 1:28:45 PM UTC-8 alan lavine wrote:
>>>
 Good to know, thanks!

 On Saturday, January 14, 2023 at 11:59:44 AM UTC-5 bunny...@gmail.com 
 wrote:

> It wasn't possible to do get the bars on the stem with the stem on the 
> bike. Like an impossible puzzle. However, with both the stem and bars off 
> of the bike I was able to gently rotate the stem as I was feeding it onto 
> the handlebars. There was always one rotational point where the stem 
> would 
> move on the bars with no forcing. Cheers!
>
> Cheers!
> Ben
>
>
> On Saturday, January 14, 2023 at 5:25:25 AM UTC-8 alan lavine wrote:
>
>> Very nice bike, wish I could get it.
>> A question about the build: How did you get the Soma Highway One bars 
>> thru a Nitto quill stem? I was under the impression these bars required 
>> an 
>> open face stem due to the abrupt curves.
>> Thanks,
>> Alan in NYC
>>
>> On Saturday, January 14, 2023 at 5:35:04 AM UTC-5 ascpgh wrote:
>>
>>> Sorry the Rambouillet didn't fit you well, despite Grant's input on 
>>> sizing. It was increasingly under square (top tube shorter than seat 
>>> tube) 
>>> up through the sizes. Your 58 has a 57cm TT, my 62's is 59cm. I think 
>>> Grant 
>>> was trying to incorporate into frame spec what is often "fit" with seat 
>>> post setback, stem length, handlebar reach, etc. without excluding 
>>> sizes 
>>> and shapes of riders. 
>>>
>>> I'm the opposite of your phenotype, too long of leg/short of torso 
>>> for my height and the Rambouillet fit me like a glove and deflected the 
>>> need for a custom for 20 years. 
>>>
>>> Someone's in for a blast from the past sorry it had to come from 
>>> this bike's envelope just being outside your perfect fit margins. 
>>> Sometimes 
>>> wider accessibility comes at a cost and trying to fit all who come 
>>> isn't at 
>>> the cost of ride quality. I know it was for me when looking around for 
>>> my 
>>> Rambouillet, all that sloped TT "fastback" foolishness was the meme. 
>>> Brands 
>>> made 3-4 sizes in a model and LBS would bodge fit with stem and post 
>>> choices.
>>>
>>> Andy Cheatham
>>> Pittsburgh
>>> On Friday, January 13, 2023 at 5:37:30 PM UTC-5 bunny...@gmail.com 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Early 2000's Rivendell Rambouillet 58cm frame (Grant from Rivendell 
 swears this is my size, but I'm a corgi with a long torso and short 
 legs  
 ), Orange and Cream finish, lots of small paint dings, some touch-up 
 paint 
 from a previous owner, small top tube dent. Everything works great and 
 it 
 still looks stunning, but it was once somebody's daily driver and 
 shows 
 appropriate wear. 

 The Rundown: 

- 58cm Rivendell Rambouillet Frame/Fork
- Mavic Open Pro Rims on Ultegra 6500 Hubs (32h) (12-26 
cassette)
- Ultegra 6500 Deraillures with 3x8 Bar End Shifters
- Sugino XD Triple Crank 48-38-26
- Panaracer Pasela 35c folding bead tires with maybe 50-60 
miles.
- TRP RRL Brake Levers
- Soma Highway One bars (42cm)*BUT I also have some Nitto 
Noodle bars in 42cm. take your pick!*
- Nitto Cold forged 7cm stem (Tallux? It's pretty tall)   *BUT 
I also have the same model in 10-11cm. take your pick!*
- I'll also toss in an 8 speed 11-32 cassette and derailleur 
hanger extender. I ran that for a while and while shifting was not 
 quite as 
awesome, having a 26 x 32 gear was nice.
- Oh, there is also a set of beat up SKS fenders that I will 
include.


 $1,600. + actual shipping cost. I'd, of course, prefer a local 
 sale, but I can ship to a loving home.

 Photos: 
 

[RBW] Re: Simworks Ramble Bar experiences

[Damien]

Thanks for the replies everyone. As an FYI, I'm a bit of a smaller guy, but 
bought these because I enjoyed my Albatross bars with the only knock on 
them being that they were too narrow and I felt cramped with them even with 
a 120mm stem. My hope was that these bars would give some of the benefits I 
enjoyed with the Albatrossbut wider.

On Thursday, 2 February 2023 at 11:41:24 UTC-5 mcgr...@gmail.com wrote:

> Looks like mounting these with negative rise could be something like a 
> wider Choco bar, with a little less sweep, which could be good for trail 
> riding.  (I love the ChocoMoose on my Hunq, but would be nice to be able to 
> lean into the bars a bit more off road.)
>
> On Thursday, February 2, 2023 at 11:06:38 AM UTC-5 iamkeith wrote:
>
>> If you still have buyer's remorse after receiving them, let me know.  I 
>> wasn't aware of these, but they look to be very much what I wish for on a 
>> daily basis.  (Essentially, a really wide albatross bar.)  Wish they had a 
>> 25.4 or 22.2 clamp area, and the grip area looks too short.  Actually, they 
>> even admit that part.  But you could always use extenders to lengthen them 
>> if you don't want bar end shifters.  
>>
>> Funny that they recommend a specific stem length.  That's really going to 
>> depend on the bike, the desired position, and the particular rider's 
>> physiology.  I think you'll still have to experiment with stems, just like 
>> any bar. It's not like we're living in the 90s when every bike had the 
>> exact same geometry.
>>
>> The reason those look appealing to me is because I'm a big-ish guy with 
>> broad shoulders and a proprtionally long torso that puts my ideal grip 
>> posiition further forward than most would want.  The last half-decade or so 
>> has been a godsend for me with bars getting wider, but most (like the 
>> tosco) sweep back without sweeping forward first, which means I need a 
>> longer tem - which are hard to find.
>>
>> Let us know what you think.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thursday, February 2, 2023 at 7:55:15 AM UTC-7 Damien wrote:
>>
>>> Hi! I'm curious if anyone has experience with these bars? I was able to 
>>> track down a pair and I pulled the trigger on them without any real thought 
>>> and had immediate buyers remorse. That said, I'd still love to hear others 
>>> thoughts on them before I go down the dark path of buying parts to switch 
>>> out my drop bars. How do they ride? Are they too wide? How did you set them 
>>> up (i.e., stem length, etc.)? Recommend?
>>>
>>> Thanks all!
>>>
>>> Oh, and for reference, here they are: 
>>> https://sim-works.com/en/news/golden-pliers-x-simworks-ramble-bar
>>>
>>

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[RBW] Simworks Ramble Bar experiences

[Damien]

Hi! I'm curious if anyone has experience with these bars? I was able to 
track down a pair and I pulled the trigger on them without any real thought 
and had immediate buyers remorse. That said, I'd still love to hear others 
thoughts on them before I go down the dark path of buying parts to switch 
out my drop bars. How do they ride? Are they too wide? How did you set them 
up (i.e., stem length, etc.)? Recommend?

Thanks all!

Oh, and for reference, here they 
are: https://sim-works.com/en/news/golden-pliers-x-simworks-ramble-bar

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[RBW] Re: Your Road or Road-ish Riv Rubber Radius (tire width)

[Damien]

Hey Eric, I'm on a 51 Sam (650b) so keep that in mind as I run through my 
experience. I started with 42 Paselas and those felt good on long road 
rides, then moved to 43 rock 'n' roads for some more bite on trails. I 
wanted to go bigger yet as I was riding more on gravel and trails so I now 
have 48 gravel king slicks. I like the tread on the gravel kings, but as I 
find myself riding road more I'm finding the ride is a little bit bouncy, 
sluggish and heavy on the road at that size, and I find the handling a bit 
funny. As you're on a larger Sam, your experience might be different, but I 
feel that on my Sam in that size, 42 in 650b felt to be just about right 
for road and I'm planning on moving to Rene Herse Babyshoe Pass tires at 
some point, or even back to the Paselas. 

Hope that's helpful (even though I can't speak to the brevet side of your 
question)

BTW, your Sam is lovely and the Snoqualmie Pass' look just about perfectly 
proportioned on it

Damien

On Tuesday, 9 August 2022 at 08:23:03 UTC-4 eric...@gmail.com wrote:

> Hello people — What size tires do you all run for riding pavement and 
> doing brevets and such? My Hillborne is set up with 44mm Snoqualmie Pass 
> tires from RH. They are slick, I run them at around 37psi. Went with these 
> seeing no downsides. I have clearance for maybe even 48s. Standard casing 
> but I have a set of used extra lights heading to me soon from Vermont which 
> I'm excited to try. 
>
> Curious to know what others think about tire sizes for long paved rides. 
>
> [image: Hillborne.jpg]
>

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[RBW] Re: FS: Marinoni Turismo

[Damien]

Hi all, dropping to $1,100 USD!

Thank you,
Damien

On Friday, 29 July 2022 at 12:49:38 UTC-4 Damien wrote:

> Ian - thanks for the bump! Really cool to hear (and see!) where your 
> Marinoni has been - Alberta/BC tour looks amazing
>
> Damien 
>
> On Thursday, 28 July 2022 at 17:30:59 UTC-4 Ian A wrote:
>
>> A bump for Damien! I have a c1999 Marinoni Turismo that has taken me to 
>> the tip of South America and much more recently at 20 day, 2600km tour 
>> through Alberta and BC. Mine, curiously, had an SLX sticker (not SPX) and I 
>> suspect it was a special order, but it came to me used in 2008 and I never 
>> met the first owner. Superb road manners, great for rando rides and light 
>> or loaded touring. Mine just takes 35mm tires under fenders and as a sealed 
>> road tourer, it's hard to imagine a better choice.
>>
>> IanA Alberta Canada
>>
>>
>> On Tuesday, July 26, 2022 at 7:50:00 AM UTC-6 Damien wrote:
>>
>>> Hi all! Dropping price to $1,200 USD!
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>> Damien
>>>
>>> On Friday, 22 July 2022 at 13:42:24 UTC-4 Matt Beecher wrote:
>>>
>>>> Yep, the other was larger, but these are pretty cool, imo. 
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> https://www.bikeforums.net/classic-vintage-sales/1002852-marinoni-special-triple-rings-cantilever-brakes-great-condition.html
>>>>
>>>> On Friday, July 22, 2022 at 12:34:44 PM UTC-5 Matt Beecher wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Very cool.  I love purple bikes and I remember one like this several 
>>>>> years back on Bikeforums.  I think it was taller though, as I recall 
>>>>> considering it, but the bike sold before I could finalize a deal.  
>>>>>
>>>>> Good luck with the sale.
>>>>>
>>>>> Best regards,
>>>>> Matt
>>>>>
>>>>> On Friday, July 22, 2022 at 12:03:38 AM UTC-5 Damien wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Friday, 22 July 2022 at 01:02:20 UTC-4 Damien wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> aaand a few more pics
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Friday, 22 July 2022 at 01:01:25 UTC-4 Damien wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Bit of a backstory: I bought this bike and set it up with high 
>>>>>>>> upright handlebars with the intention of having my dad ride it. 
>>>>>>>> Unfortunately he had a significant health scare very recently (still 
>>>>>>>> not 
>>>>>>>> recovered) and I realized that he's not really going to use it. Plus 
>>>>>>>> he's 
>>>>>>>> got some 90's Rocky Mountain which he won't let go of, and I thought, 
>>>>>>>> "well, if he's happy with this, I'm happy too." So, I tinkered a bit 
>>>>>>>> and 
>>>>>>>> tried to find a way to have this fit me but I could not get 
>>>>>>>> comfortable 
>>>>>>>> myself on it (I'm an 80 PBH, standover on this is 81-82, and the reach 
>>>>>>>> still felt a bit long for me even with a short stem and compact bars - 
>>>>>>>> and 
>>>>>>>> I'm on a 51 in both a Sam and Hunqapillar and don't feel I would have 
>>>>>>>> a 
>>>>>>>> need for it even if it did fit). So, I thought someone here might 
>>>>>>>> appreciate. 
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hopefully it is ok to post this here and even if no interest, I'm 
>>>>>>>> hoping someone will find that the bike is at least cool to look at. It 
>>>>>>>> really is nice and makes me wish I was taller and longer limbed.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Friday, 22 July 2022 at 00:59:36 UTC-4 Damien wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Unfortunately selling this lovely bike.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> 2001 Marinoni Turismo Columbus SPX frame and fork
>>>>>>>>> 56 cm top tube length
>>>>>>>>> ~ 81-82 cm standover
>>>>>>>>> Campagnolo Veloce 9x3 speed shifters
>>>>>>>>> Campagnolo Veloce RD
>>>>>>>>> Campagnolo Triple Crankset
>>>>>>>>> Campagnolo Triple FD
>>>>>>>>> new cables and housing throughout
>>>>>>>>> new Nitto x Crust Shaka Bars
>>>>>>>>> new Nitto x Crust 60mm quill stem
>>>>>>>>> new Black Inc bar tape
>>>>>>>>> Ambrosio 36 hole rims laced to Campagnolo Hubs
>>>>>>>>> Blackburn Front and Rear Touring Racks
>>>>>>>>> Will not come with the Brooks B17 in the pics but will come with a 
>>>>>>>>> used Brooks Cambium saddle
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Looking for $1,300 (USD) and can organize professional boxing and 
>>>>>>>>> shipping at the buyers expense (I am located in Canada - if you're in 
>>>>>>>>> Canada and interested, can discuss CAD price).
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Let me know if any questions. Will happily send more pics!
>>>>>>>>> Damien
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>

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[RBW] Re: FS: Marinoni Turismo

[Damien]

Ian - thanks for the bump! Really cool to hear (and see!) where your 
Marinoni has been - Alberta/BC tour looks amazing

Damien 

On Thursday, 28 July 2022 at 17:30:59 UTC-4 Ian A wrote:

> A bump for Damien! I have a c1999 Marinoni Turismo that has taken me to 
> the tip of South America and much more recently at 20 day, 2600km tour 
> through Alberta and BC. Mine, curiously, had an SLX sticker (not SPX) and I 
> suspect it was a special order, but it came to me used in 2008 and I never 
> met the first owner. Superb road manners, great for rando rides and light 
> or loaded touring. Mine just takes 35mm tires under fenders and as a sealed 
> road tourer, it's hard to imagine a better choice.
>
> IanA Alberta Canada
>
>
> On Tuesday, July 26, 2022 at 7:50:00 AM UTC-6 Damien wrote:
>
>> Hi all! Dropping price to $1,200 USD!
>>
>> Thanks
>> Damien
>>
>> On Friday, 22 July 2022 at 13:42:24 UTC-4 Matt Beecher wrote:
>>
>>> Yep, the other was larger, but these are pretty cool, imo. 
>>>
>>>
>>> https://www.bikeforums.net/classic-vintage-sales/1002852-marinoni-special-triple-rings-cantilever-brakes-great-condition.html
>>>
>>> On Friday, July 22, 2022 at 12:34:44 PM UTC-5 Matt Beecher wrote:
>>>
>>>> Very cool.  I love purple bikes and I remember one like this several 
>>>> years back on Bikeforums.  I think it was taller though, as I recall 
>>>> considering it, but the bike sold before I could finalize a deal.  
>>>>
>>>> Good luck with the sale.
>>>>
>>>> Best regards,
>>>> Matt
>>>>
>>>> On Friday, July 22, 2022 at 12:03:38 AM UTC-5 Damien wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On Friday, 22 July 2022 at 01:02:20 UTC-4 Damien wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> aaand a few more pics
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Friday, 22 July 2022 at 01:01:25 UTC-4 Damien wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Bit of a backstory: I bought this bike and set it up with high 
>>>>>>> upright handlebars with the intention of having my dad ride it. 
>>>>>>> Unfortunately he had a significant health scare very recently (still 
>>>>>>> not 
>>>>>>> recovered) and I realized that he's not really going to use it. Plus 
>>>>>>> he's 
>>>>>>> got some 90's Rocky Mountain which he won't let go of, and I thought, 
>>>>>>> "well, if he's happy with this, I'm happy too." So, I tinkered a bit 
>>>>>>> and 
>>>>>>> tried to find a way to have this fit me but I could not get comfortable 
>>>>>>> myself on it (I'm an 80 PBH, standover on this is 81-82, and the reach 
>>>>>>> still felt a bit long for me even with a short stem and compact bars - 
>>>>>>> and 
>>>>>>> I'm on a 51 in both a Sam and Hunqapillar and don't feel I would have a 
>>>>>>> need for it even if it did fit). So, I thought someone here might 
>>>>>>> appreciate. 
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hopefully it is ok to post this here and even if no interest, I'm 
>>>>>>> hoping someone will find that the bike is at least cool to look at. It 
>>>>>>> really is nice and makes me wish I was taller and longer limbed.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Friday, 22 July 2022 at 00:59:36 UTC-4 Damien wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Unfortunately selling this lovely bike.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> 2001 Marinoni Turismo Columbus SPX frame and fork
>>>>>>>> 56 cm top tube length
>>>>>>>> ~ 81-82 cm standover
>>>>>>>> Campagnolo Veloce 9x3 speed shifters
>>>>>>>> Campagnolo Veloce RD
>>>>>>>> Campagnolo Triple Crankset
>>>>>>>> Campagnolo Triple FD
>>>>>>>> new cables and housing throughout
>>>>>>>> new Nitto x Crust Shaka Bars
>>>>>>>> new Nitto x Crust 60mm quill stem
>>>>>>>> new Black Inc bar tape
>>>>>>>> Ambrosio 36 hole rims laced to Campagnolo Hubs
>>>>>>>> Blackburn Front and Rear Touring Racks
>>>>>>>> Will not come with the Brooks B17 in the pics but will come with a 
>>>>>>>> used Brooks Cambium saddle
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Looking for $1,300 (USD) and can organize professional boxing and 
>>>>>>>> shipping at the buyers expense (I am located in Canada - if you're in 
>>>>>>>> Canada and interested, can discuss CAD price).
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Let me know if any questions. Will happily send more pics!
>>>>>>>> Damien
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>

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[RBW] Re: FS: Marinoni Turismo

[Damien]

Hi all! Dropping price to $1,200 USD!

Thanks
Damien

On Friday, 22 July 2022 at 13:42:24 UTC-4 Matt Beecher wrote:

> Yep, the other was larger, but these are pretty cool, imo. 
>
>
> https://www.bikeforums.net/classic-vintage-sales/1002852-marinoni-special-triple-rings-cantilever-brakes-great-condition.html
>
> On Friday, July 22, 2022 at 12:34:44 PM UTC-5 Matt Beecher wrote:
>
>> Very cool.  I love purple bikes and I remember one like this several 
>> years back on Bikeforums.  I think it was taller though, as I recall 
>> considering it, but the bike sold before I could finalize a deal.  
>>
>> Good luck with the sale.
>>
>> Best regards,
>> Matt
>>
>> On Friday, July 22, 2022 at 12:03:38 AM UTC-5 Damien wrote:
>>
>>> On Friday, 22 July 2022 at 01:02:20 UTC-4 Damien wrote:
>>>
>>>> aaand a few more pics
>>>>
>>>> On Friday, 22 July 2022 at 01:01:25 UTC-4 Damien wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Bit of a backstory: I bought this bike and set it up with high upright 
>>>>> handlebars with the intention of having my dad ride it. Unfortunately he 
>>>>> had a significant health scare very recently (still not recovered) and I 
>>>>> realized that he's not really going to use it. Plus he's got some 90's 
>>>>> Rocky Mountain which he won't let go of, and I thought, "well, if he's 
>>>>> happy with this, I'm happy too." So, I tinkered a bit and tried to find a 
>>>>> way to have this fit me but I could not get comfortable myself on it (I'm 
>>>>> an 80 PBH, standover on this is 81-82, and the reach still felt a bit 
>>>>> long 
>>>>> for me even with a short stem and compact bars - and I'm on a 51 in both 
>>>>> a 
>>>>> Sam and Hunqapillar and don't feel I would have a need for it even if it 
>>>>> did fit). So, I thought someone here might appreciate. 
>>>>>
>>>>> Hopefully it is ok to post this here and even if no interest, I'm 
>>>>> hoping someone will find that the bike is at least cool to look at. It 
>>>>> really is nice and makes me wish I was taller and longer limbed.
>>>>>
>>>>> On Friday, 22 July 2022 at 00:59:36 UTC-4 Damien wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Unfortunately selling this lovely bike.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 2001 Marinoni Turismo Columbus SPX frame and fork
>>>>>> 56 cm top tube length
>>>>>> ~ 81-82 cm standover
>>>>>> Campagnolo Veloce 9x3 speed shifters
>>>>>> Campagnolo Veloce RD
>>>>>> Campagnolo Triple Crankset
>>>>>> Campagnolo Triple FD
>>>>>> new cables and housing throughout
>>>>>> new Nitto x Crust Shaka Bars
>>>>>> new Nitto x Crust 60mm quill stem
>>>>>> new Black Inc bar tape
>>>>>> Ambrosio 36 hole rims laced to Campagnolo Hubs
>>>>>> Blackburn Front and Rear Touring Racks
>>>>>> Will not come with the Brooks B17 in the pics but will come with a 
>>>>>> used Brooks Cambium saddle
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Looking for $1,300 (USD) and can organize professional boxing and 
>>>>>> shipping at the buyers expense (I am located in Canada - if you're in 
>>>>>> Canada and interested, can discuss CAD price).
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Let me know if any questions. Will happily send more pics!
>>>>>> Damien
>>>>>>
>>>>>

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[RBW] Re: Nick Offerman reflects on cycling (and more!)

[Damien]

Great read, thanks for sharing! His comedy really comes through in his 
writing, and he seems like just a great storyteller as well. And now I have 
another book to add to the reading list.

On Thursday, 21 July 2022 at 19:13:48 UTC-4 eric...@gmail.com wrote:

> Offerman has a new column in Outside, the first essay centers on his 
> cycling commutes in NYC and Los Angeles. 
>
> Enjoy!
>
>
> https://www.outsideonline.com/culture/love-humor/nick-offerman-column-thoreau-candy-ass/
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[RBW] Re: Sam Hillborne 51, need TT length

[Damien]

Mine's 56.5cm

On Monday, 4 April 2022 at 14:45:25 UTC-4 Paul Choi wrote:

> Can someone measure their Sam and let me know the TT length? Just trying 
> to figure out the stem that I need for an upcoming build. The next Sam 
> shipment comes in August. 
>
> Thanks!
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Re: [RBW] Flat Pedal Users: Favorite size/shape?

[Damien]

I have been using Blackspire Sub Four pedals on my Bombora, and SimWorks 
Bubbly Pedals on my Sam. Both are pretty great and I'd recommend. The 
Blackspire pedals are super grippy - almost too grippy? Whatever, I 
don't hate it and they do feel really nice when ripping around on trails. 
The SimWorks pedals are just really pretty (got them in Copper). Not as 
grippy but honestly a good amount of grip for my purposes with the Sam, and 
a nice platform. Look a bit chunky, but I'm over it and actually enjoy the 
way they look.

https://www.sim.works/products/bubbly-pedals?variant=37871655911598

https://www.blackspire.com/product/sub-four-pedals/

I had MKS Lambdas before - they're ok. They have a nice platform but my 
Vans/Chucks would slip a bit on them. Not sure if you can put pins in them, 
but you may not need/want them. For what it's worth, my wife absolutely 
hates these pedals. I think it's because she has shinned herself more with 
these pedals than any others.

I have another bike coming and I may try some composite pedals - Kona Wah 
Wahs or something like that.
On Wednesday, 16 March 2022 at 21:57:01 UTC-4 Jay Lonner wrote:

> I really, really like the Catalyst pedals from Pedaling Innovations:
>
> https://pedalinginnovations.com/
>
> Thin, long, wide, grippy – they check all the boxes for me. I ride wearing 
> either Vans, Chucks, or Keens, none of which offer much support (esp. the 
> Chucks) and there’s enough real estate on the pedal to keep me comfortable 
> all day. I’ve tried all the options that Riv sells and have replaced them 
> with Catalysts, with the exception of my Bike Friday where I use MKS rinko 
> pedals for ease of packing:
>
>
> https://www.renehersecycles.com/shop/components/pedals/mks-allways-pedals-ezy-superior-rinko-2/
>
> These are also great, esp. for their intended application, but the 
> Catalysts are just ‍ 
>
> Jay Lonner
> Bellingham, WA
>
> Sent from my Atari 400
>
> On Mar 16, 2022, at 6:24 PM, John Bokman  wrote:
>
> Hi all.
>
> I've been riding VP Vice pedals for a few years now. It took a long while 
> (aprx. a year) to get used to riding flats, coming from Speedplay Frogs. 
> Finally, it took, and I'm happy on the flats for my commuter (Sam Hill).
>
> However, the Vice have developed play, rattle a bit, and generally feel 
> gritty, and I have been experimenting with different ideas. I've recently 
> used the old MKS Touring pedals, and RMX sneaker pedals. These are okay, 
> but what I've discovered is that for my riding,  flats without connection 
> (no clips/straps, powergrips) feel better underfoot with a fairly large 
> platform, and low stack height,  like the Vice. And yet I know many of you 
> enjoy the Riv-approved MKS Gamma, lambda, and Allways models. All of these 
> appear to be taller, and all are narrower than the vice. And yet...I 
> wonder: how big is big enough? I'm not racing downhill, fully padded and 
> helmeted, on a double boinger, like my neice. I just ride my bike here and 
> there, long distances, when time allows.
>
> I always want to support Riv when possible. But I am looking at many other 
> pedals that Riv does not sell. What are some of your favorites, and why? 
> For what use? If you use the aforementioned MKS pedals, what is your 
> opinion of them? Do you like the size/shape? I'm wondering if the length of 
> the pedal is more important than the width. The Gamma, Lambda, and Allways, 
> for instance, are all longer than the Vice, while being slimmer. 
>
> Thanks.
> John
>
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[RBW] Re: FS: 54cm Roadini formerly owned by Grant Petersen

[Damien]

Looks like geo is linked 
here: 
https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/1403/7343/files/ROADINI-540-Geo.jpg?7649874663519573416

56.5cm TT?

On Thursday, 24 February 2022 at 09:46:02 UTC-5 Brady Smith wrote:

> Hi Ezra,
>
> Any idea on the TT measurements for this model? 
>
> Thanks,
>
> Brady
>
> On Wednesday, February 23, 2022 at 6:01:11 PM UTC-7 ezra...@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>
>> Unfortunately the day has come... I'm low on space/money and must sell my 
>> beloved Roadini. This 2020 model was originally owned and ridden by Grant 
>> Petersen for a few months as his personal bike. Then it was sold to me by 
>> Rivendell as a demo at the end of 2020. Over the last year I have made a 
>> fair share of changes and upgrades in order to make the bike fit me better 
>> and ride a bit more sporty.
>>
>> -*54 cm Rivendell "Leo Roadini" Frame* (in really great shape other than 
>> a few scuffs and nicks)
>> -*Ritchey Zeta 700c Wheels* w/ Phantom flange removable/interchangeable 
>> rear hub. Tubeless compatible, but run with tubes right now. Very light and 
>> strong. Under 1500g 
>> -*32mm Bontrager R3 Brown Sidewall Hard-Case Lite TLR Road Tire* My 
>> favorite road tires I've ever owned. Perfect mix of fast and supple/cushy 
>> yet puncture resistant. Still haven't flatted with these. Tubeless 
>> compatible, but run tubed currently. Still very new. Less than 200 miles.
>> -*42cm Soma Highway One* handle bars
>> -*100mm Nitto Pearl Stem*. Nitto's top of the line fanciest stem.
>> -Rivendell Silver2 Friction Shifters
>> -FSA Duron Headset
>> -Microshift silver double front derailler
>> -Shimano Acera rear derailleur (scuffed and scratched a little bit)
>> -Clipper triple crank with 50t-30t double chainring setup. (This 50t is a 
>> bit bigger than they recommend, but it totally works and gives more range). 
>> Tip of crank arm scratched a little.
>> -11-32t Cassette
>> -Tekro R559 Brakes
>> -Shimano Brake levers
>> -Nitto Seatpost
>> -Newbaums bar cloth bar tape. Left side is brand new.
>> -Saddle, bottle cages, and pedals not included
>> *Located in Los Angeles*
>>
>> *$1875 *
>> *(Local pickup preferred, but will ship if buyer pays for 
>> packing/shipping)*
>>
>> [image: IMG_4911.jpeg][image: IMG_4912.jpeg][image: IMG_4913.jpeg][image: 
>> IMG_4915.jpeg][image: IMG_4916.jpeg][image: IMG_4917.jpeg][image: 
>> IMG_4918.jpeg]
>>
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[RBW] Re: Which swept back bars for a Hillborne?

[Damien]

I actually went the other way, converting from Albatross to Noodles. With 
the Albas, I had a 12cm stem and bar end shifters (although I think 
thumbies would be better). They felt very upright for me - hence the move 
to Noodles - but I can't figure out whether I just didn't take to the 
sweepback of the Albas, or I was just used to drops. The Noodle setup is 
using 48cm noodles with a 7cm stem, although sometimes I wish it were 5cm 
or 6cm (or I just had compact bars). I'm going to try some SimWorks Fun 3s 
or Nitto Wavies with a 135 faceplater to see if that changes my mind on 
non-drop bars for this bike.

On Monday, 14 February 2022 at 11:28:50 UTC-5 Erik Wright wrote:

> IMO it's hard to beat the look and feel of the Albatross. I've set up my 
> Sam with something like 6-7 different bars at this point; started with the 
> Albatross and finally came back around to that setup a few months back. It 
> seems like most newer bars that Riv makes come back extra far to complement 
> the longer reach of their newer models. Since the Albatross predates those 
> bikes I think they strike a nice balance when coming from drops. I think 
> something like +2cm on a stem will keep the fit/feel from popping you too 
> upright if you're used to Noodles. I have an 11cm stem and have considered 
> a 12, but since it's pretty fine as-is I haven't bothered with the swap.
>
> Shifter choice might also play into your decision. I have Microshift 
> thumbies flipped inboard which sorta takes away the "in between" hand 
> position because it clogs up the bars a bit. This is less of an issue on a 
> bar like Chocos because they have additional sweep. If you run bar ends, 
> you get that extra 2ish cm of sweep from the bar end pods and also get to 
> keep the "in between" position. I've been thinking about moving to stem 
> shifters or moving the thumbies up next to the stem in the forward-most 
> hand position.
>
> Erik, Philly
>
> On Monday, February 14, 2022 at 11:11:08 AM UTC-5 Johnny Alien wrote:
>
>> You will want a longer stem to move to sweptback.  How much longer 
>> depends on which bars you choose. Unless you want to move to albastache in 
>> which case you can keep everything your noodles have. I like to go with a 
>> shorter stem when moving from drops to albastache.  For conventional 
>> sweptback my suggestion for first sweptback from drops is choco or losco.  
>> But it's really a preference thing and hinges on how upright you want to be.
>>
>> On Monday, February 14, 2022 at 10:39:36 AM UTC-5 rcr...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> I've got a Hillborne which I've always used with noodle bars, but want 
>>> to convert it to upright swept back bars.  Anybody else made a similar 
>>> conversion, and which bars did you get?  Should I get a new stem?
>>>
>>

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[RBW] WTB: 25.4 Nitto FacePlater quill stem

[Damien]

As mentioned in the title, I'm on the hunt for a 25.4 Nitto FacePlater in 
110 or 135. I know these are quite rate at the moment, but if anyone 
happens to have one please let me know!

https://www.rivbike.com/products/stem-kajnlkhmgn5646

Thanks
Damien

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[RBW] Re: Joe Appaloosa build

[Damien]

Hey Eric, I noticed you did a Sam build video as well! How are you liking 
the Appaloosa vs. the Samsy?

On Thursday, 25 November 2021 at 11:35:21 UTC-5 eric...@gmail.com wrote:

> Hey, that's me! Thanks, Tom. I made a post here about the video a few 
> weeks ago :) 
>
> On Wednesday, November 24, 2021 at 7:09:55 PM UTC-5 Tom M wrote:
>
>> The Radavist has a link to a nice video of a Joe Appa build: 
>> https://theradavist.com/2021/11/rivendell-bicycle-works-joe-appaloosa-assembly/.
>>  
>> The owner uses a large-setback seat post.
>>
>> Tom in Alexandria, VA
>>
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[RBW] Re: PSA: 46 Joe Appaloosa Garage Sale

[Damien]

Agreed Doug - loving the 1x set ups. I've been fervently watching the 
Garage Sale page for something exactly like this but in 51. One day my 
dreams will come true 

On Thursday, 11 November 2021 at 09:33:27 UTC-5 Doug H. wrote:

> It seems Riv has been building up more 1x indexed bikes lately with off 
> road riding in mind! I approve.
> Doug
>
> On Wednesday, November 10, 2021 at 10:48:45 PM UTC-5 maxcr wrote:
>
>> Spotted this beauty on the Riv site, if you’re looking for a complete get 
>> it quick!
>>
>> https://www.rivbike.com/products/46cm-appaloosa-dirt-ready-web-special-2
>>
>> Max
>>
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[RBW] Re: 2021 Appaloosa video

[Damien]

Amazing Eric. Bike is perfect and the video overall was calming for the 
mind and soul

On Thursday, 11 November 2021 at 09:46:23 UTC-5 cycli...@gmail.com wrote:

> Well done Eric.  The time spent taking the time lapse video really shows.  
>
> David
>
> On Thursday, November 11, 2021 at 6:35:43 AM UTC-8 rickur...@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>
>>
>> Awesome, awesome, awesome video!
>> On Wednesday, November 10, 2021 at 1:09:33 PM UTC-5 eric...@gmail.com 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi everyone -- I made a video about my Appaloosa which I got new this 
>>> summer and had built up at Rivendell. Shows the unpacking and assembly 
>>> along with some riding footage from out here in Virginia! 
>>>
>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CNmhe_hEQ48
>>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: Susie & Gus take a 40 day Vacation

[Damien]

You guys rip! That was s fun to watch. You've inspired me to go for a 
bike-skate sesh even though it's going to feel mildly wintry here this week.

On Monday, 1 November 2021 at 09:53:53 UTC-4 Stephen wrote:

> Hell yeah dude, likewise if you come by NC.
>
> On Saturday, October 30, 2021 at 2:26:12 PM UTC-4 Tim Baldwin wrote:
>
>> This trip was a blast! Glad Joseph and I made it happen after postponing 
>> a year due to the pandemic. Many thanks to Allison for the drop-off.
>>
>> Stephen, it was a pleasure riding the Nutmeg with you. Hoping to do it 
>> again next year. Holler if you end up in the Chicago area and we can link 
>> up for a ride.
>>
>> On Saturday, October 30, 2021 at 10:17:16 AM UTC-5 Stephen wrote:
>>
>>> This is dope, looks like an awesome trip! I got to ride with Tim last 
>>> week in Connecticut, it was a great time!
>>>
>>> On Friday, October 29, 2021 at 11:32:07 AM UTC-4 joseph...@gmail.com 
>>> wrote:
>>>

 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LUGgOqEqOkc

 took a 40 day vacation with bikes.  I ride a Gus and my friend, Tim, a 
 Susie.  Check out the video above for a recap of events in sequential 
 order.

 The original idea was a skate trip by bicycles but with mediocre at 
 best planning.  We would ride from Seattle to Oakland finding as much dirt 
 and gravel as possible.  
 We left Chicago by car on July 3rd with my wife, 2 dogs, 2 bikes and 
 plenty of camping equipment.  We dropped my bike off in Seattle to get the 
 front hub replaced and drove up to Orcas Island for some camping and 
 skating.  After 10 days of driving my wife dropped Tim & I in Seattle to 
 begin the biking portion.  Yes, my wife dropped us in Seattle and drover 
 herself and the 2 dogs back to Chicago by herself.  She is the best and 
 has 
 already let me know she will not be doing that again anytime soon. 
 Free Range Cycles in Seattle was the starting point for the biking 
 portion because that is where my bike was.  We had a late start and ended 
 up skating under the bridge, Marginal Way, until dark with the Grindline 
 crew.  A guy named Isaac gave us a place to crash on the flat bottom of 
 there indoor vert ramp.  He also gave us a great route to hit skateparks 
 along the way towards Yakima.  

 We zigzagged through Washington hitting skateparks along the way. If 
 you didn't know already the Seattle area has the most skateparks per 
 capita.  The route was not straight forward but the trip was not meant to 
 be. We rode towards Yakima and hung for a day before making our way 
 towards Bingen, WA.
 After skating Bingen Park for a full day we hitchhiked across the 
 Columbia River to get into Hood River, Oregon.  From Hood River we rode to 
 Portland and instead of staying in Portland for 3 days we stayed for 14.  
 After about 8 days our friend finally asked how long we would be sleeping 
 on his floor.  We originally thought we would ride the Oregon Outback but 
 due to heavy fires thought best to just stay and skate Burnside everyday 
 and do some s24o in the Portland area. (We plan on going back and doing 
 the 
 Outback in the early spring time).  We both were not interested in biking 
 the 1 and used a Hertz bailout to rent a van and drive the 1 with our 
 bikes 
 to Oakland.  Saving our legs for lots of day rides and skating through the 
 Oakland area. 
 We stayed in Oakland for about 10 days and skated every single day 
 expect one when we decided to take BART to walnut creek and ride Mt. 
 Diablo.  After sleeping outside on the Mountain we checked out Riv and 
 took 
 BART back to our friends place in Oakland.
 After a good time in Oakland we took the Amtrak back to Chicago on 
 August 12th.
 The big take away... Bring your bike to each town you visit so you can 
 go where you want when you want.  Sometimes, listen to locals.  Lastly, 
 carrying a skateboard while touring adds a lot of extra weight but totally 
 worth it if you are still a 30+ year old skate rat.  

 -Joseph



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[RBW] Re: And the winner of best handlebar is....

[Damien]

I had Albas on the Sam and switched over to 48 Noodles. For that bike the 
Noodles feel right, but I think it's because I'm so used to drops. That 
said, I've always been a bit Choco-curious, and am fascinated by the 
proposition of a Wavie on the Sam...

On Tuesday, 5 October 2021 at 16:13:55 UTC-4 eric...@gmail.com wrote:

> I've got Albatross, Billies and 48cm Noodles currently installed on three 
> bikes. Love them all, I do see the Billie as an improvement over the 
> Albatross and love the forward grip position which I used quite a lot. I 
> wouldn't mind a wider Noodle. Will mentioned a prototype 54cm Noodle in an 
> email update sometime in the last year. I'd probably pick one up if 
> offered. 
>
> Thanks for the feedback, Rich! Don't mean to highjack and get all into 
> skewers. Looking for some simple silver skewers and I'm nuts about brass so 
> they do check a few boxes for me. Not afraid to file or shape things, might 
> give them a shot. 
>
> On Tuesday, October 5, 2021 at 12:10:13 PM UTC-4 RichS wrote:
>
>> Johnny,
>>
>> Your Saluki is a great looking, well put together bike. I won't jump into 
>> handlebar preferences (been using Noodles for years).
>>
>> Eric asked about your VO skewers.
>> I purchased a set in silver when they were first offered - based solely 
>> on their appearance. I think they tighten adequately but are somewhat 
>> fiddly to get there. My disappointment with them is the edges of the lever 
>> are not rounded; they're flat and consequently sharp. Not the most 
>> comfortable on one's hand. VO could have charged a bit more and had the 
>> thin lever fattened just a bit and more finely finished.
>>
>> I remedied it by filing and smoothing down the edges. Not a lot of 
>> material to work with but the result is more comfortable.
>>
>> Best,
>> Rich in ATL
>>
>> On Monday, October 4, 2021 at 7:27:05 PM UTC-4 eric...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> Looks like a rad setup, I'd be eager to try someone else's albastache 
>>> rig before taking the plunge. 
>>>
>>> What do you think of the Velo Orange skewers? I've been eying a set 
>>> myself. 
>>>
>>> On Monday, October 4, 2021 at 7:21:57 PM UTC-4 Johnny Alien wrote:
>>>
 Albastache.  Seriously. I have tried the Nitto Moustache in the past 
 and liked it but it needed to sit a bit high to be useful to me. I love 
 drops but at the same time never actually spend much time IN the drops.  
 These bars are perfect. 




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[RBW] Re: Share More Riv Riding Pics

[Damien]

Jason, love your setups. And just an FYI - beer is definitely an errand, 
and a mission critical one at that!

On Wednesday, 4 August 2021 at 15:28:36 UTC-4 Jason Fuller wrote:

> Here's one of each of my bikes (okay, there is a fourth, my mountain bike, 
> but I haven't ridden it lately and it is not at all Riv-inspired) from the 
> past week doing what each of them does best!
>
> Sam Hillborne out on an adventure
> Bombadil doing some heavy lifting
> Raleigh Twenty running errands (okay picking up beer)
>
> On Wednesday, 4 August 2021 at 08:14:12 UTC-7 phoen...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>>
>> Yesterday we got out before the triple digit temps. We hit up two local 
>> parks, had a blast on the swings, kicked a ball all over the park and ate 
>> snacks in the shade of some huge cedars! (Don’t worry, we didn’t leave the 
>> hat behind)
>> [image: 51433055-0ED2-48E4-965E-A2CEF3F40ED3_1_105_c.jpeg]
>> On Wednesday, August 4, 2021 at 7:18:12 AM UTC-7 ascpgh wrote:
>>
>>> I'm away from my bikes tending to family health issues, really wanting 
>>> for a nice long ride like this. This was a weekend trip on my Rambouillet 
>>> down the Great Allegheny Passage to Cumberland, MD with a Sunday 
>>> night Amtrak shuttle home. 
>>> [image: 3C9CE6DE-8E63-4881-A2AD-0FD1D586328F_1_105_c.jpeg]
>>> Great Allegheny Passage along the Youghiogheny River between 
>>> Connellsville, PA and Ohiopyle State Park, PA.
>>> [image: 78008998-5FC2-40A6-9452-3E31F6BA0EA6_1_105_c.jpeg]Great 
>>> Allegheny Passage, Salisbury Viaduct over the Casselman River and Flight 93 
>>> Highway, outside of Meyersdale, PA. 
>>> [image: B798B94B-B8D6-4B51-A89E-AB63ECF2A4B3_1_105_c.jpeg]
>>> Great Allegheny Passage along the Casselman River between Markleton, PA 
>>> and Casselman, PA. Neither a rocker nor a mod, but a ton up.
>>> [image: IMG_7452.jpeg]
>>> Early morning walk in AR with Ike the Lab pup. Looking south from a 
>>> junction to a streetlight. Ghostly little pink bike in driveway to the 
>>> right.[image: 356C3A49-DC42-4684-8064-6E8DB1AA2C03_1_201_a.jpg]
>>> Ike the traveling pup. Not a bike but gets me out three times a day. 
>>>
>>> Andy Cheatham
>>> Pittsburgh
>>> (reporting from Hot Springs National Park)
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, August 3, 2021 at 11:31:22 AM UTC-5 weste...@gmail.com 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 This one is from May -- on the Katy Trail in Missouri. The Radical 
 Design Cyclone trailer makes a great kickstand for my 68cm Toyo Atlantis. 

 Julian Westerhout
 Bloomington, IL 

 On Monday, August 2, 2021 at 11:41:06 PM UTC-5 bicycler...@gmail.com 
 wrote:

>
> I got to be the shirtless guy taking a picture of his bike in the 
> River today. 
> Found a new to me section of the American River that’s just deep 
> enough to float and just shallow enough not to drown. Went full Huck 
> Finn, 
> carrying my bike through some sections downstream before getting lost and 
> having to double back. 
> This was the turnaround of a fairly spirited ride on a warm day, so 
> the swim was much appreciated. 
> -Addison, 
> Shirtless in Sacramento 
> On Monday, August 2, 2021 at 10:00:02 AM UTC-7 Paul in Dallas wrote:
>
>> Thanks Patrick. 
>> I also miss Deacon Jones posts and pictures. He certainly has a 
>> significant skill in capturing stunning pics riding in the Pikes Peak 
>> area.
>>
>> He still has a website I think under Deacon Patrick. A search should 
>> pop it up.
>>
>> Cool pics and historical perspective Philip!
>>
>> I've ridden up and down Swiss Avenue many times and always enjoy it.
>>
>> Also your Platypus looks terrific!
>>
>> Yeah, the heat and humidity. It does get to me also.
>>
>> A break this week with slightly cooler temps...thank the Lord.
>> I measured 1.1 inches of rain yesterday and last night.
>>
>> Paul in Dallas
>>
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: Have you ever considered trading in your Sam for an Appaloosa?

[Damien]

Just an update here. I decided to stick with the Hillborne since I had so 
many great rides on it the past few weeks and knew I would regret selling 
it.
..nd someone else nabbed the Appaloosa - looks like the decision 
was made for me!

I may consider going back to upright bars at some point in the distant 
future, but may try some that aren't Albatross. I would consider a Wavie or 
Bullmoose since they don't seem to sweep back as much and the angle seems 
nicer. I also have some SimWorks Fun 3 bars collecting dust in the parts 
bin that might end up on there one day, but for now, the drops will be just 
fine!
On Sunday, 4 July 2021 at 11:39:15 UTC-4 bjmi...@gmail.com wrote:

> Excellent to know about the long pull levers! Thanks! Gets me kind of 
> thinking about building up a full drop bar cockpit for my Atlantis to see 
> how I like it...
>
> On Thursday, July 1, 2021 at 8:36:18 PM UTC-5 Jason Fuller wrote:
>
>> Ben - regarding V-brakes and drop bars, there are a couple long-pull 
>> levers out there, and the best of them is made by Cane Creek.  So, don't 
>> fret about drops and v-brakes, it's doable! 
>>
>> Regarding Sam vs. Joe... I think it comes down to a couple things: 
>> - Are you planning to run fenders?  If not, both bikes can fit a decent 
>> size tire, even the caliper Sams.  If so, that'll reduce the Sam's offroad 
>> capabilities somewhat
>> - Are you a heavier or lighter rider?  If you're sub-200lbs I wouldn't 
>> concern yourself with which will carry a payload better, as they'll both 
>> carry a lot. 
>> - What percentage of off-pavement riding will you do?  I would stick with 
>> the Sam if you're above 70% pavement, but no doubt the Joe will start to 
>> make sense as that number drops
>>
>> They'd be such complimentary bikes as Erik has illustrated, but if that's 
>> not feasible for cost or space reasons, it's a funny thing:  it's a heck of 
>> a difficult decision, but at the same time, you can't go wrong with 
>> either.  
>>
>> On Wednesday, 30 June 2021 at 08:31:00 UTC-7 bjmi...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> I'm feeling this post today! I have an Atlantis and love it and have no 
>>> plans of ever getting rid of it. I do, however, have the itch for something 
>>> a little more sprightly and nimble with drop bars. I strongly desire a 
>>> Homer, but I think I'm a v-brake guy for life now and would prefer a Sam 
>>> (though would need mini-V brakes if I understand how traditional road drop 
>>> bar brake levers work). Love hearing everyone's feedback on this as I was 
>>> thinking about posting something similar. 
>>>
>>> TL:DR - I have nothing to add to this other than I feel the pain of 
>>> wanting two Rivs for two different styles of riding...but know in my heart 
>>> I'd be fully content just having what I've got. 
>>>
>>> Ben "no help" in Omaha. 
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, June 30, 2021 at 9:53:27 AM UTC-5 Joel S wrote:
>>>
 Sorry for the crazy typos, these iPads have a mind of their own.  

 Sent from ProtonMail for iOS


 On Wed, Jun 30, 2021 at 10:24 AM, 'Joel S' via RBW Owners Bunch <
 rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com> wrote:

 I ride a Hillborne ans a Bleriot, I am not a fan of the longer chain 
 stays.  I started using albatross bars when they were introduced on mt 
 custom and AR. I set up my Saluki and then my Bleriot with them. When I 
 started riding again last year (layoff due to back issues) I Foy find the 
 Bleriot a bit squirrelly.  It took a bit to figure out how to ride with 
 this bike and albatross again.  I switched the Hillborne and Bleriot to 
 Choco bars this year and I like them better.  I do not ride upright, I 
 will 
 gave my hands over the brakes and as far up as what might be equal to the 
 flats of drops.  I have handy different positions with these (now my 
 favorite bars).  I think using drops or albatross is more about your 
 riding 
 style than the bike.  Just my opinion.  

 As far as swapping the Hillborne for an Appaloosa, I looked at both and 
 actually brought an Atlantis in, it was sold within a month and then I got 
 the Hillborne and I have never looked back.  The Appaloosa is very similar 
 to the Atlantis.  

 Enjoy your Sam Hillborne. 
 On Tuesday, June 29, 2021 at 11:40:12 PM UTC-4 JP wrote:

> 89. pbh 185lb 46ish 
>
> I have a 10 year old or so 60cm sam with albatross and a high high 
> double in the front.  I have recently lowered the front stem to get in a 
> more roadish posture and it seems to balance the weight better front to 
> back for me?
>
> I bought a 2021 appaloosa 57cm with tosco cliffhanger shikoro.  
> Haven't received it yet.   I bought the Joe based on loving the length of 
> my brothers MIT 62cm atlantis - also i felt my dad's 63cm homer always 
> felt 
> nice even though it's supposed to be similar geometry to the sam.  
>
> I am 

[RBW] Re: Have you ever considered trading in your Sam for an Appaloosa?

[Damien]

Think I see what most people are saying, and a few things have stuck out to 
me:

   - Both bikes are good, but having both of them would be better to cover 
   off all sorts of riding (Sam for more roadish endeavours, Appa for more 
   load/trails/wider usage)
   - A bigger difference-maker is how each bike would be set up, but it 
   wouldn't make sense to set up my Sam to be what I'd want an Appa to be, and 
   vice versa
   - There is a difference between the new Appa and old one, as the new one 
   may be better suited to more upright bars

To answer a question above, the longest stem I have used with the Albas was 
120, but at some point, a super long stem begins to feel a bit goofy

Super appreciative for all of the insights, knowledge and thoughts dropped 
here! Please keep them coming. The bike in consideration is one of the 
just-released orange Appaloosas, so would have the new geometry, and I 
would likely just transition parts over from the Sam and sell the frame.

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[RBW] Have you ever considered trading in your Sam for an Appaloosa?

[Damien]

So here's the situation. I've got a super hot lead on an orange 51 
Appaloosa, but I'm already deep in it with a sage 51 canti Sam. Initially, 
when I was looking at these bikes, I was torn between the two. I ultimately 
leaned Sam because at the time I liked the colour and it was more 
available. Well, things change I guess! I'm more seriously entertaining a 
move to the Appaloosa because:

   - Sweet long chainstays
   - Can carry more (?? Is this true??)
   - Will likely work better for me with upright bars (Sam felt too cramped 
   for me with Albas)
   - Better tire clearance for fattish knubblies or fatter tires + fenderage

What I would love to do here is tap the forum's collective wisdom to see if 
the grass is really greener. Has anyone made the move from Sam to 
Appaloosa, or vice versa? What were your feelings? What did you miss on the 
old bike when you made the move? What did you love about the new bike that 
the old bike couldn't live up to?

I'm approaching this a bit more cautiously since I already regret selling 
another Riv I owned (Roadini - my regret is well documented, I believe). 
That said, I imagine I'll need to act fast to get the bike before someone 
snags it. In a perfect world I'd keep both, but we all know the world isn't 
perfect, and I do have to live within the very real constraints imposed 
upon me by my lovely partner who for some reason isn't cool with me having 
umpteen bikes.

Anyways, enough of my incessant rambling. Thank you for reading and helping 
to encourage my hobby of buying bikes then selling then replacing then 
modifying then selling then replacing then buying then crying then selling 
then complaining then... (and so on and so forth). 

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Re: [RBW] Re: 2021 Appaloosa thread

[Damien]

I've always been a huge Appaloosa fanboy, and that Mermaid colour is sick! 
I'm honestly toying around with the idea of selling the Sam to grab one of 
these.

On Friday, 4 June 2021 at 23:01:04 UTC-4 bicycler...@gmail.com wrote:

> I'm so excited by this color! I saw it in person on Tuesday and can't stop 
> staring at the photos I took (though I'm glad Crust posted some, because 
> mine are kind of awful) 
> I rode an employee's around Walnut Creek for 45 minutes or so and then 
> rode Grant's around the parking lot; both bikes couldn't have felt more 
> different, and the fact that they're (essentially) the same frame marked 
> just the versatility I'm after. Looking forward to having a Riv of my very 
> own! 
> It's also really nice to hear that a chunk of their sales will be going to 
> Pine Ridge. It sort of puts a finer point on "voting with your dollar" 
> By the way Jason, your bike almost sent me into a Bombadil quest like no 
> other, but have decided I want to experience this long chainstay madness. 
>
> On Friday, June 4, 2021 at 10:47:38 AM UTC-7 Jason Fuller wrote:
>
>> I was a bit hasty there and neglected the other questions (well, the ones 
>> I can answer anyway):  No change to the chainstay length nor the tire 
>> clearance, just based on comparison of new and old geometry tables.  I'm 
>> not sure on other changes; Grant said this batch has slightly longer 
>> "bellies" to the butted tubes which make the frame a touch lighter and 
>> livelier, but that's as compared to the last batch rather than the first 
>> batch, so not necessarily relevant.  
>>
>> On Fri, Jun 4, 2021 at 10:42 AM Jason Fuller  wrote:
>>
>>> Keith, 
>>>
>>> The current 57 Appa has a 10mm longer top tube than the old 58 Appa 
>>> did!  Current 57 is a 625 effective TT, whereas the old 58 was 615.  
>>> Definitely sounds like good news for you! 
>>>
>>> On Fri, Jun 4, 2021 at 10:35 AM iamkeith  wrote:
>>>
 I don't have time to study nuances and geometries and subtle, running 
 design changes like I used to, but I still sort of regret not getting a 
 58cm double-top-tuber from the first batch.  (When they were announced and 
 went on sale, I was precluded by the fact that I was still waiting on a 
 Clem from the first run, which ended up being almost - but not quite - 
 ideal for me, so I eventually got rid of it.)  

 Can anyone provide a clear, accurate summary of how the details of this 
 model have changed?  

 I know the seat tube sizes/designations are 1cm less, but did the top 
 tubes or effective front-centers stay the same, or get shorter or, better 
 yet, get LONGER?

 I know the fork blades got stiffer/thicker after the first run.  Any 
 other changes since.

 Has tire clearance improved?

 Have chainstays gotten longer or shorter, etc?

 Thanks for any geeky analysis or datapoints.

 On Friday, June 4, 2021 at 11:01:43 AM UTC-6 Jason Fuller wrote:

> Now that the new Joe Appa's are hitting shelves (everywhere but at 
> Rivendell, as is becoming the norm!) I reckon it's time for a central 
> place 
> to chat about them, a la the Platy thread! 
>
> Crust has their inventory live for purchase at $1650:  
>
> https://crustbikes.com/collections/frames/products/rivendell-joe-appaloosa
>
> I will be abstaining because there is no line of reason that could 
> possibly justify my buying one, but I look forward to living vicariously 
> through others! 
>
> [image: DSC07418-2_1800x1800.jpg]
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[RBW] Re: Regrets

[Damien]

Hey Joe, I had a 50cm Orange Roadini...but if I'm being honest, if I had 
any of the colours, I would have regretted selling those equally.

On Friday, 21 May 2021 at 10:32:26 UTC-4 Joe M. wrote:

> Damien, what size and color Roadini do you regret selling?
>
> On Friday, May 21, 2021 at 4:42:20 AM UTC-7 alan lavine wrote:
>
>> I totally agree with Patrick's comments, I could have written it myself. 
>>  I'm learning, slowly...
>> You can't make a silk purse out of a sow's ear.  
>> What a weird expression that is!
>>
>> Alan
>> NYC
>>
>> On Thursday, May 20, 2021 at 8:16:16 PM UTC-4 Kainalu V. -Brooklyn NY 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> This 64cm Sam Hillborne- https://photos.app.goo.gl/oe7AdWXzUKB8NF8dA
>>> but it's in a good home.
>>> I popped the seatstay top braze off and had the joy of talking with 
>>> Richard Schwinn about fixing it better than new, which he did for free. 
>>> Once I had it back I was busy riding a Quickbeam and a Clem H, and felt 
>>> weird about it having broken for some crazy reason, and sold it for a 
>>> song...
>>> -Kai
>>>
>>> On Thursday, May 20, 2021 at 3:56:06 PM UTC-4 Damien wrote:
>>>
>>>> In my seemingly endless search to optimize my bike collection, fill 
>>>> gaps, and try new and cool bikes, I recently realized how many bikes I've 
>>>> had in my life and how many questionable decisions I've made. There are a 
>>>> number of choices I've made, for better or worse, to sell bikes in order 
>>>> to 
>>>> make room for other bikes, downsize, or simply because I felt they weren't 
>>>> getting the use they deserved.
>>>>
>>>> My question to the group is: what bike or bikes do you most regret 
>>>> selling, trading, or giving away?  
>>>>
>>>> For me, as you may know, I absolutely regret selling my Roadini, and an 
>>>> old Marinoni touring bike that I originally thought was too big for me (I 
>>>> realize now how wrong I was, and am currently in the process of replacing 
>>>> it!).
>>>>
>>>> Would love to hear what regrets others here have!
>>>>
>>>> <3
>>>> Damien
>>>>
>>>

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[RBW] Regrets

[Damien]

In my seemingly endless search to optimize my bike collection, fill gaps, 
and try new and cool bikes, I recently realized how many bikes I've had in 
my life and how many questionable decisions I've made. There are a number 
of choices I've made, for better or worse, to sell bikes in order to make 
room for other bikes, downsize, or simply because I felt they weren't 
getting the use they deserved.

My question to the group is: what bike or bikes do you most regret selling, 
trading, or giving away?  

For me, as you may know, I absolutely regret selling my Roadini, and an old 
Marinoni touring bike that I originally thought was too big for me (I 
realize now how wrong I was, and am currently in the process of replacing 
it!).

Would love to hear what regrets others here have!

<3
Damien

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[RBW] Re: Wider Noodles

[Damien]

Knowing my tendencies, I imagine I'll be ordering those wide Noodles once 
they exist. I currently have 48 Noodles on the Sam, and 52 Spank bars on 
the Bombora - is this the best of both worlds?

On Monday, 10 May 2021 at 11:46:21 UTC-4 jgs...@gmail.com wrote:

>
> Consider me jazzed. I’ve been searching far and wide (literally) for 
> something noodle-like but with more width. My 48cm’s are fun and all, but I 
> just put 55cm bars on my other bike and I’m in love. I’m still considering 
> a Shaka because I like the idea of the flared drops, but wider noodles 
> sound pretty amazing 
> On Monday, May 10, 2021 at 5:42:26 AM UTC-7 E. Ricky Creek wrote:
>
>> I noticed in Will's email update a mention of a 54cm Noodle prototype. 
>> Well, consider me excited. I recently put Nitto/Crust Shaka bars on my 
>> Atlantis to get something wider than a 48 Noodle and absolutely love them. 
>> It got me thinking that it would be cool if Riv put the same effort into 
>> perfect wider drops that they put into all the wide variations of 
>> loscotoscochocobosco sweptback bars. Also, I recall over the years that 
>> various threads about drops have mentioned demand for 50+ wide noodle bars. 
>> Anyone else jazzed? 
>
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[RBW] Re: Soma Dream Riser

[Damien]

Just an FYI - I checked just now and both colours are back in stock!

On Saturday, 17 April 2021 at 14:20:32 UTC-4 Lucky wrote:

> I slept too long on buying a black Soma Dream Riser and they’re out of 
> stock again.
> Anyone have one for sale?
> Reply off list please. 

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[RBW] Re: Platypus is sold out in 50 cm.

[Damien]

For any of my fellow Canadians, C Cycles is now carrying Rivendell, and 
have 55s and 60s in stock in both 
colours: 
https://www.clcycle.ca/en/cadre-rivendell-platypus-step-through-countrybike.html

On Monday, 5 April 2021 at 13:34:14 UTC-4 velomann wrote:

> I'm pretty sure that Kevin at Golden Pliers here in Portland is getting at 
> least a couple Platy frames in. I recall him saying he was focusing more on 
> larger sizes, but 
> I'm not sure. For anyone who missed out it would be worth contacting him 
> to find out what he's got.
>
> Mike M
> On Monday, April 5, 2021 at 6:44:19 AM UTC-7 Damien wrote:
>
>> Jay, I can also vouch for the Analog folk. I worked with James on a build 
>> and he was great - really detailed, honest, good recommendations. Takes a 
>> different approach from typical Rivendell, but I trusted the team and came 
>> out with a really solid, well-fitting build.
>>
>> On Sunday, 4 April 2021 at 12:44:48 UTC-4 Dorothy C wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks Roberta
>>> This frame is for my youngest who is 27, he finishes a Master’s this 
>>> summer. I already have an Appaloosa, a grey Roadini that is stored in Wales 
>>> with my sister for when I visit, a Cheviot, a Clem and an orange Roadini 
>>> that I just finished building with Losco bars and a Bitex hub wheelset. My 
>>> oldest kid got a Clem complete from me two years ago. 
>>>
>>> On Sunday, April 4, 2021 at 9:13:21 AM UTC-7 Roberta wrote:
>>>
>>>> Dorothy,  That must have been a white knuckle few moments.  I'm so glad 
>>>> you got one.  I got the mermaid, but that lime/olive sure is nice looking, 
>>>> also.
>>>>
>>>> Jay, I'm happy to have helped getting a Riv into another person's hands 
>>>> (under another person's bum)!  
>>>>
>>>> I've bought my first Riv from James when he was located in MD as Gravel 
>>>> and Grind, and I had just heard of the Rivendell brand.  For all my bike 
>>>> naivete, they have been patient answering my questions and never steered 
>>>> me 
>>>> wrong, helping me with a "lightening up" bike project last year, and 
>>>> recommending a build for my 55 Mermaid Platy. 
>>>>
>>>> Roberta
>>>>
>>>> On Sunday, April 4, 2021 at 9:13:49 AM UTC-4 Jay LePree wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi all:
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks to Roberta Chase who referred me to Analogue cycles.  I was 
>>>>> able to procure a 50 cm Olive green and they will do the build for me. 
>>>>> They 
>>>>> seem really great to work with.  
>>>>> Jay
>>>>> Demarest, NJ
>>>>>
>>>>> On Saturday, April 3, 2021 at 2:50:41 PM UTC-4 Dorothy C wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I got the 55cm Lime I wanted in the first two minutes of the sale.  A 
>>>>>> couple of things I did - logged in to my account ahead of the sale time, 
>>>>>> of 
>>>>>> course, but I added the prep for shipment item to my cart earlier that 
>>>>>> morning, and I had the credit card details stored in my browser’s 
>>>>>> autofill. 
>>>>>> I had the size and color already selected too. 
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Saturday, April 3, 2021 at 9:56:11 AM UTC-7 Joe Bernard wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> This is what is known as a good problem. Those Appaloosas are great 
>>>>>>> (and beautiful) bikes, you're going to love it. 
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Joe Bernard
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Thursday, April 1, 2021 at 12:10:04 PM UTC-7 Jay LePree wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I am happy for Riv.  Good they made out.  I tried to purchase one, 
>>>>>>>> and it seemed between 12:00 and 12:01 the mermaids sold out.  I was 
>>>>>>>> able to 
>>>>>>>> load a lime green, but when I added the build up up the frame, they 
>>>>>>>> were 
>>>>>>>> sold out. 
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Divine intervention telling me to go for the Apaloosa in late 
>>>>>>>> April. 
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Jay
>>>>>>>> Demarest, NJ
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>

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[RBW] Re: Platypus is sold out in 50 cm.

[Damien]

Jay, I can also vouch for the Analog folk. I worked with James on a build 
and he was great - really detailed, honest, good recommendations. Takes a 
different approach from typical Rivendell, but I trusted the team and came 
out with a really solid, well-fitting build.

On Sunday, 4 April 2021 at 12:44:48 UTC-4 Dorothy C wrote:

> Thanks Roberta
> This frame is for my youngest who is 27, he finishes a Master’s this 
> summer. I already have an Appaloosa, a grey Roadini that is stored in Wales 
> with my sister for when I visit, a Cheviot, a Clem and an orange Roadini 
> that I just finished building with Losco bars and a Bitex hub wheelset. My 
> oldest kid got a Clem complete from me two years ago. 
>
> On Sunday, April 4, 2021 at 9:13:21 AM UTC-7 Roberta wrote:
>
>> Dorothy,  That must have been a white knuckle few moments.  I'm so glad 
>> you got one.  I got the mermaid, but that lime/olive sure is nice looking, 
>> also.
>>
>> Jay, I'm happy to have helped getting a Riv into another person's hands 
>> (under another person's bum)!  
>>
>> I've bought my first Riv from James when he was located in MD as Gravel 
>> and Grind, and I had just heard of the Rivendell brand.  For all my bike 
>> naivete, they have been patient answering my questions and never steered me 
>> wrong, helping me with a "lightening up" bike project last year, and 
>> recommending a build for my 55 Mermaid Platy. 
>>
>> Roberta
>>
>> On Sunday, April 4, 2021 at 9:13:49 AM UTC-4 Jay LePree wrote:
>>
>>> Hi all:
>>>
>>> Thanks to Roberta Chase who referred me to Analogue cycles.  I was able 
>>> to procure a 50 cm Olive green and they will do the build for me. They seem 
>>> really great to work with.  
>>> Jay
>>> Demarest, NJ
>>>
>>> On Saturday, April 3, 2021 at 2:50:41 PM UTC-4 Dorothy C wrote:
>>>
 I got the 55cm Lime I wanted in the first two minutes of the sale.  A 
 couple of things I did - logged in to my account ahead of the sale time, 
 of 
 course, but I added the prep for shipment item to my cart earlier that 
 morning, and I had the credit card details stored in my browser’s 
 autofill. 
 I had the size and color already selected too. 

 On Saturday, April 3, 2021 at 9:56:11 AM UTC-7 Joe Bernard wrote:

> This is what is known as a good problem. Those Appaloosas are great 
> (and beautiful) bikes, you're going to love it. 
>
> Joe Bernard
>
> On Thursday, April 1, 2021 at 12:10:04 PM UTC-7 Jay LePree wrote:
>
>> I am happy for Riv.  Good they made out.  I tried to purchase one, 
>> and it seemed between 12:00 and 12:01 the mermaids sold out.  I was able 
>> to 
>> load a lime green, but when I added the build up up the frame, they were 
>> sold out. 
>>
>> Divine intervention telling me to go for the Apaloosa in late April. 
>>
>> Jay
>> Demarest, NJ
>>
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: In Praise of the Roadini

[Damien]

Ryan - YES! That truly makes me feel better about the decision to part with 
it, difficult as it may have been! Please post some pics - so happy it's 
now being really used and loved. Maybe I'll get another Roadini at some 
point to fill the void. Who knows? I have too many bikes according to my 
wife, but that hasn't stopped me yet :)

Patrick - she just turned 3 a few days ago, so to me she's huge (well, 
maybe it's just her 3-year-old attitude that's huge) and growing up far too 
fast. Can't even fathom her going off to college, but luckily I have time. 
She really loves longer rides in the Burley, but only if we have a stuffy 
strapped in the seat beside her, lots of snacks, and we let her collect 
sticks and rocks and snails along the way (???). Oddly enough we just 
bought her her first *real* skateboard for her birthday, somaybe 
our "little" ones are more alike than we thought?

On Thursday, 28 January 2021 at 16:22:35 UTC-5 r.d.o...@gmail.com wrote:

> I can confirm that your Roadini is in good hands Damien ;) I have put a 
> few hundred miles on her and absolutely love the ride and the fit. I've 
> been pulling her onto some hard pack singletrack right along our bike trail 
> system here in ole ABQ and she's holding her own.  No real updates to the 
> build other than swapping out the tires for Jack Brown Blues (was getting 
> sick of the goatheads cutting my rides short...) All my pics are FROM the 
> bike, need to take some glory shots out in the desert 
>
> -Ryan 
>
> On Wednesday, January 27, 2021 at 8:46:06 AM UTC-7 Damien wrote:
>
>> Some photos of my dearly departed Roadini back in spring/summer 2019, 
>> when it had nasty filthy white hoods. From a stroller mission with my 
>> then-small (now-huge) daughter. She used to do this thing where she would 
>> wrestle my bikes, but I think she's grown out of that now. Well, I hope she 
>> has.
>>
>> On Tuesday, 26 January 2021 at 14:16:26 UTC-5 mrg...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> Here's one on a foggy forest path with a cool tree I found.
>>>
>>> Discovered that previously used Newbaums still sticks well and arguably 
>>> has an even better texture (bumpier) than new.
>>>
>>> Mike 
>>> Austin TX
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, January 26, 2021 at 12:56:26 PM UTC-6 aus...@soundcoop.tv 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> So happy with the Dini so far, rides like a dream. It's freezing out 
>>>> which has precluded some longer rides but every mile on it so far has been 
>>>> great. A friend described brifters with cork bar-ends as "chaotic energy", 
>>>> but it's my kind of chaos. Loving all the color symmetry it's got.
>>>>
>>>> [image: IMG_8532.JPG]
>>>>
>>>> On Sunday, January 24, 2021 at 8:01:25 PM UTC-5 Paul G wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Interesting how low the seat tube bottle cage mount is. 
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sunday, January 24, 2021 at 2:56:49 PM UTC-8 Bones wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Here's one more then. Nice freezing cold evening ride.[image: 
>>>>>> roadini.jpg]
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Bones
>>>>>> On Wednesday, January 13, 2021 at 12:06:43 PM UTC-5 zem...@gmail.com 
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Austin, let us know how the bike turned out!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I'm always on the edge of buying this frame when Riv brings them 
>>>>>>> out. Each new positive review brings me a little closer :)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Zack 
>>>>>>> Toronto/DC
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Wednesday, January 6, 2021 at 12:48:01 PM UTC-5 
>>>>>>> aus...@soundcoop.tv wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I'm in the process of building up my first Riv, a silver Roadini, 
>>>>>>>> and this thread has me mighty excited. Thanks all,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Monday, January 4, 2021 at 9:46:01 PM UTC-5 Jeff B wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Seems I can only post 1 at a time in this thread. Must have been 
>>>>>>>>> something with the google change,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>

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[RBW] Re: FS: Bikes on eBay, CraigsLIst, and Other Sites

[Damien]

Found this on eBay: Joe Appaloosa, 51cm, looks to be brand new. May be a 
little $$$ especially with the new Joe A's around the corner, but thought 
I'd share in the case that someone needs one right now. I do think this is 
what Blue Lug is selling their stock of Joe's for at the moment.

https://www.ebay.ca/itm/Rivendell-Joe-Appaloosa-w-BB-and-headset-BRAND-NEW-size-51-650b-Hillibike/274650105958?hash=item3ff26c0866:g:tJQAAOSwSF1gA7KB

On Tuesday, 29 December 2020 at 07:04:35 UTC-5 Mark Roland wrote:

> Definitely cool, but even with basketballs included, a little pricey for 
> what you get, and I suspect the Bike Tinkerer would prefer to do the 
> tinkering.  I have a Crust fork, but have gone from no donor bike to trying 
> to decide which donor bike. Hopefully an early 2021 project.  And yeah, I 
> suspect Grant & Co. are fans of the Crust cargo forks. I think Blue Lug did 
> a RivenCrust on Instagram a while back, can't remember what donor model. 
> Fan Say.
>
> On Monday, December 28, 2020 at 5:20:38 PM UTC-5 Joe Bernard wrote:
>
>> Not a Riv but has a Bosco Bar and Crust cargo fork and it's just cool! In 
>> Santa Rosa, CA. where Bike Tinker should go buy it. 
>>
>>
>> https://sfbay.craigslist.org/nby/bik/d/santa-rosa-schwinn-hurricane-cargo-bike/7253169368.html
>>
>> On Wednesday, July 8, 2020 at 4:11:41 PM UTC-7 Matthew Williams wrote:
>>
>>> This thread is for Rivendells you've found on eBay, CraigsList, and 
>>> sites beyond: bikes in which you think someone here might be interested. 
>>> This thread isn't for posting ads to your own ad, it's just so people who 
>>> are searching or interested have a place to look, like, "Hey, check this 
>>> out!" Here are a few, from today's searches:
>>>
>>> 61cm Roadini
>>> https://www.ebay.com/itm/283940882590
>>>
>>> 58cm Quickbeam
>>>
>>> https://sfbay.craigslist.org/eby/bik/d/pinole-rivendell-quickbeam-58/7154380920.html
>>>
>>> 52cm Clementine
>>>
>>> https://dallas.craigslist.org/dal/bik/d/richardson-rivendell-clementine/7130894748.html
>>>
>>> 65cm Redwood
>>>
>>> https://bellingham.craigslist.org/bik/d/bellingham-rivendell-redwood/7153843392.html
>>>
>>

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Re: [RBW] Re: In Praise of the Roadini

[Damien]

This conversation is truly making me realize what a fool I was for selling 
my Roadini. 

On Wednesday, 6 January 2021 at 00:11:30 UTC-5 Paul G wrote:

> And wheel/tire weight can make a difference on steering feel too. When I 
> ride my Roadeo unloaded on spirited road rides, I like the more lively 
> turn-in of lightweight 32mm Soma Supple Vitesse tires (250 grams). They 
> allow precise steering adjustment mid-corner due to less gyroscopic force 
> in the wheels. When urban commuting with a rear saddlebag load up to 10 
> lbs, I like Jack Brown Greens which add 100 grams of tire weight per wheel. 
> The added stability counters the weight shift to the rear from the saddle 
> bag (less stable) and makes for a more relaxed, gentle handling which I 
> like when commuting. 
>
> On Monday, January 4, 2021 at 12:05:20 PM UTC-8 Patrick Moore wrote:
>
>> All the 5 different Rivendells I've ridden (3 road customs, 42.5 and 45 
>> cm stays, early Sam Hill, and 2nd gen Ram) exhibited what I think is a 
>> Grantian quality, unerring stability without sluggish turn-in, though for 
>> me, the first custom was a bit too quick to transition from straight to 
>> turn with the skinniest tires (ie, it was a wee bit twitchy, tho' this with 
>> very light, very short 559 X 22mm 24" wheels; with 32s it was almost 
>> perfect); the Sam had *too much* "corners on rails" feeling -- harder to 
>> adjust line mid-turn; and the Ram felt a bit sedate after the quicker 
>> customs, which are my benchmarks for road bike handling. 
>>
>> There are all sorts of other bikes that are pleasant to ride, but this 
>> quality of stability with "natural" turn-in seems to mark most if not all 
>> of Grant's designs. Note that you can have too much of the "corners as if 
>> on rails" quality, but Grant's best designs seem to have a perfect balance 
>> of stability and quickness. And I realize that taste plays a huge role in 
>> what one finds acceptable and superlative.
>>
>
>>
>> On Mon, Jan 4, 2021 at 12:08 PM Scott Calhoun wrote:
>>
>>> IME, my most confidence inspiring bikes on fast downhills have all had 
>>> longish chainstays (43-45cm) same as the Roadinis. I've not ridden a 
>>> Roadini, but my Ram had that great confidence inspiring handling around 
>>> curves. My Quickbeam is similar. 
>>>
>>> Roadini Curious in Tucson
>>>
>>> On Sunday, April 12, 2020 at 5:22:36 PM UTC-7 lambbo wrote:
>>>
 My experience of the Roadini is that it feels like you're on a rail, 
 like a train car, it just brings you around all the curves and down the 
 hills on a tight line, no wobbling around, with momentum.  It's 
 incredible. 

>>>  
>> ---
>> Patrick Moore
>> Alburquerque, Nuevo Mexico, Etats Unis d'Amerique, Orbis Terrarum
>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: WTB: Drop Bar/Stem/Brake/Shifter set up

[Damien]

Thanks Melanie! Will DM so we can chat off thread. Bars are a bit narrower 
than I was hoping but everything else looks great.

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[RBW] Re: WTB: Drop Bar/Stem/Brake/Shifter set up

[Damien]

Thanks for the feedback both o' y'all. Guess it makes sense to be a bit 
more specific than just drops/stem/levers/shifters.

So, ideally
Stem length - 70-80mm
Bar width - 44 to 48 cm
Bar end shifters would be preferable. Index would be great, but am 
certainly open to friction
Aero brake levers
Fully wrapped is cool, but certainly not necessary.

Anyways, preferences above, but please feel free to let me know what you 
have, since I'm open to other set ups.

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[RBW] WTB: Drop Bar/Stem/Brake/Shifter set up

[Damien]

Hey all,

As the title suggests, I'm looking to see if anyone has a drop bar, stem, 
shifter, and brake lever set up they are looking to rid themselves of. Let 
me know what you have! I'm looking to switch from my current Albatross set 
up on the ol' Sam.

Thanks all!

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[RBW] Re: WTT: My Paul Mini Motos for Your Paul Cantis

[Damien]

Collin, I have some TRP RRL SR (Drilled Silver with the gum hoods). Brand 
new in box - never got used. PM me!

On Saturday, 19 December 2020 at 17:38:46 UTC-5 Collin A wrote:

> Well, that was quick...
>
> No more Pauls, but I am still looking for those TRP levers and a silver 
> shifter bar end pod...
>
> Cheers,
> Collin, Operation Warp *Speedier*, in Sacramento
>
> On Saturday, December 19, 2020 at 1:46:42 PM UTC-8 Collin A wrote:
>
>> Hi Folks,
>>
>> Currently trying a cockpit switch, that turned into a brake switch, but 
>> the minimotos aren't giving me enough clearance with the current tire and 
>> fender setup I like. SO, I have a set of pretty much unused mini-motos in 
>> silver lying in my parts box, taunting me, and threatening to make me buy 
>> another bike to put them on...
>>
>> I am looking for a set of Paul Touring/Neo Retro cantis, ideally silver. 
>> If you also have some spare cable hangers I'll grab those as well :). 
>> Depending on condition, we can haggle/negotiate, but that'll be for later.
>>
>> Photos: https://photos.app.goo.gl/SWnGPZgUjZ5AUwzX6
>>
>> I'm also looking for some TRP RRL levers and one silver bar end shifter 
>> pod, if anyone is holding.
>>
>> Hope everyone is staying safe,
>> Collin in Sacramento
>>
>

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[RBW] Re: 19-year old Riv

[Damien]

Well, wow. This is a really lovely Riv. Thanks for sharing.

Fun fact: your bike is legal drinking age in Canada!

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[RBW] Re: ...and another orange Hillborne

[Damien]

This, along with Jason's, are probably my two favourite Sams. Both are 
inspiring me to change around my current Sam setup.

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[RBW] Black hole of mixing Campagnolo and Shimano

[Damien]

Hey all, hoping to tap your collective knowledge on this topic. I have a 
pretty standard Albatross-Riv-Shimano set up on my Sam (Deore RD, Tiagra 
FD, 11-36 9 speed cassette with Sugino triple up front, Microshift 9 speed 
bar end shifters) and am *exploring *the idea of converting to drop bars 
and using 9 speed Campagnolo Centaur shifters (since I love the way these 
look and feel), potentially using a JTek Shiftmate 3. 

It sounds simple, but as with most things, I imagine it's not as simple as 
it sounds. Before I start getting parts together for this mess, would love 
to know if anyone feels strongly about this working well together, not 
working well together, or if it's not worth the hassle and I just stick 
with my Microshift bar ends on the drops. I figured that it would be nice 
to keep the whole upright stem-handlebar-levers-shifters combo in tact if I 
want to go back upright, and since I'm changing bar styles, why not 
consider another option?

Anyways, would love all of your thoughts on this, especially if you have 
first-hand experience. Thank you all in advance!

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[RBW] Re: WTB: TRP Drilled Brake Levers

[Damien]

Brian, I have a set of brand new never used drilled silver with gum hoods 
if interested

On Wednesday, 16 September 2020 at 22:36:25 UTC-4 Brian Campbell wrote:

> Paul,
>
> I want the levers. This new version of groups won't allow me to respond 
> via laptop or phone directly to you. I also did not get your message. My 
> e-mail is:
>
> bdcamp...@gmail.com
>
> On Wednesday, September 16, 2020 at 6:00:26 PM UTC-4 Paul Brodek wrote:
>
>> Sent an offlist PM, got clean silver/black ones available.
>>
>> Paul Brodek
>> Hillsdale, NJ USA
>>
>> On Wednesday, September 16, 2020 at 3:44:30 PM UTC-4, Brian Campbell 
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi all. If anybody has any to sell, please get in touch.
>>>
>>> Thanks!
>>>
>>

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Re: [RBW] Re: FS: 50cm Roadini - Orange and Athena!

[Damien]

Sold! Just began it's long voyage from Ontario to its new owner in New 
Mexico! Thanks everyone

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[RBW] Re: Dark Green B17 Special

[Damien]

I had one of these stolen too (along with the bike it was perched upon). I 
still pine for it and may purchase another at some point. I did get this 
same saddle in Honey, but it's just not the same.

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[RBW] Re: FS: 50cm Roadini - Orange and Athena!

[Damien]

$1,400 - any interest???

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[RBW] Re: FS: 50cm Roadini - Orange and Athena!

[Damien]

Hi Morris, crank arms are 172.5

On Saturday, 9 May 2020 13:37:39 UTC-4, Morris sterling wrote:
>
> Damien  how long are the crank-arms pls?
>
>
> On Monday, April 27, 2020 at 7:44:44 PM UTC-5, Damien wrote:
>>
>> Down to $1,500!
>
>

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[RBW] Re: Rock n' Road Tires on a Sam Hillborne

[Damien]

Currently have them on my 51 Sam.

They're a bit loud on pavement but don't really feel that slow, and I 
certainly don't mind it. They've been great on trails, singletrack and 
gravel. I'd recommend them.

I have also had Snoqualmie Pass' on another bike of mine and they rode 
s nice. Surprisingly comfy on gravel, but they're definitely a smooth 
tread so keep that in mind if you need some bite. I always worried about 
puncturing or flatting, but it never happened once.

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[RBW] Re: FS: 50cm Roadini - Orange and Athena!

[Damien]

Down to $1,500!

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