I have been using Blackspire Sub Four pedals on my Bombora, and SimWorks 
Bubbly Pedals on my Sam. Both are pretty great and I'd recommend. The 
Blackspire pedals are suuuuuper grippy - almost too grippy? Whatever, I 
don't hate it and they do feel really nice when ripping around on trails. 
The SimWorks pedals are just really pretty (got them in Copper). Not as 
grippy but honestly a good amount of grip for my purposes with the Sam, and 
a nice platform. Look a bit chunky, but I'm over it and actually enjoy the 
way they look.

https://www.sim.works/products/bubbly-pedals?variant=37871655911598

https://www.blackspire.com/product/sub-four-pedals/

I had MKS Lambdas before - they're ok. They have a nice platform but my 
Vans/Chucks would slip a bit on them. Not sure if you can put pins in them, 
but you may not need/want them. For what it's worth, my wife absolutely 
hates these pedals. I think it's because she has shinned herself more with 
these pedals than any others.

I have another bike coming and I may try some composite pedals - Kona Wah 
Wahs or something like that.
On Wednesday, 16 March 2022 at 21:57:01 UTC-4 Jay Lonner wrote:

> I really, really like the Catalyst pedals from Pedaling Innovations:
>
> https://pedalinginnovations.com/
>
> Thin, long, wide, grippy – they check all the boxes for me. I ride wearing 
> either Vans, Chucks, or Keens, none of which offer much support (esp. the 
> Chucks) and there’s enough real estate on the pedal to keep me comfortable 
> all day. I’ve tried all the options that Riv sells and have replaced them 
> with Catalysts, with the exception of my Bike Friday where I use MKS rinko 
> pedals for ease of packing:
>
>
> https://www.renehersecycles.com/shop/components/pedals/mks-allways-pedals-ezy-superior-rinko-2/
>
> These are also great, esp. for their intended application, but the 
> Catalysts are just 👨‍🍳 😘👌
>
> Jay Lonner
> Bellingham, WA
>
> Sent from my Atari 400
>
> On Mar 16, 2022, at 6:24 PM, John Bokman <jpbc...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Hi all.
>
> I've been riding VP Vice pedals for a few years now. It took a long while 
> (aprx. a year) to get used to riding flats, coming from Speedplay Frogs. 
> Finally, it took, and I'm happy on the flats for my commuter (Sam Hill).
>
> However, the Vice have developed play, rattle a bit, and generally feel 
> gritty, and I have been experimenting with different ideas. I've recently 
> used the old MKS Touring pedals, and RMX sneaker pedals. These are okay, 
> but what I've discovered is that for my riding,  flats without connection 
> (no clips/straps, powergrips) feel better underfoot with a fairly large 
> platform, and low stack height,  like the Vice. And yet I know many of you 
> enjoy the Riv-approved MKS Gamma, lambda, and Allways models. All of these 
> appear to be taller, and all are narrower than the vice. And yet...I 
> wonder: how big is big enough? I'm not racing downhill, fully padded and 
> helmeted, on a double boinger, like my neice. I just ride my bike here and 
> there, long distances, when time allows.
>
> I always want to support Riv when possible. But I am looking at many other 
> pedals that Riv does not sell. What are some of your favorites, and why? 
> For what use? If you use the aforementioned MKS pedals, what is your 
> opinion of them? Do you like the size/shape? I'm wondering if the length of 
> the pedal is more important than the width. The Gamma, Lambda, and Allways, 
> for instance, are all longer than the Vice, while being slimmer. 
>
> Thanks.
> John
>
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