[RBW] Central Coast Tour ride report
It was 64.2 miles, to be exact: http://connect.garmin.com/activity/100583414 I¹ll have a blog report with some pics in the next couple of days. Dustin Anne Paulson anne.paul...@gmail.com Jul 20 05:00PM -0700 ^ #digest_top So, you have listed that your route from Half Moon Bay to New Brighton (where I hope you did not omit a trip to Gayle's) was 56 miles and included a diversion into Big Basin. What route did you take, and how did you manage to take a 68 mile direct route, add some diversions and get 56 miles? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] FS: Noodle Bars; Phil Wood BB; 1 threadless cable hanger
Hi All, A few additional items for sale: (1) Nitto Noodle bars, 46CM. This is the cleanest, almost new looking used set of bars you will find. 6 months use before they were replaced with Soba bars. $60 shipped via USPS priority mail. I would also be interested in trading these for a set of Albatross bars in equally good condition. (2) Phil Wood SS BB, 107 symmetrical, with SS cups, British thread. $85 shipped via USPS priority mail. (3) Silver cable hanger for 1² threadless steerer tube. $7 shipped via first class mail. High-rez photos: http://www.flickr.com/photos/33769898@N04/sets/72157626774030534/detail/ Paypal strongly preferred for all sales. Thanks, and lemme know if you have any questions. Dustin Sharp San Diego, Calif. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Whole Lotta Things for Sale [UPDATE]
Folks, Here is the revised list this morning after several of the items were picked up last night. Shipping prices are to CONUS via either USPS priority mail or parcel post. (my choice depending on what is closest to what I have charged for shipping) I think/hope the prices are pretty fair and I have set them low enough to avoid needing to haggle. I am happy to combine shipping if you want multiple items. Please go to flickr for details on conditions and pics: http://www.flickr.com/photos/33769898@N04/sets/72157626517528338/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/33769898@N04/sets/72157626517528338/ If you no longer see the pic on Flickr, that probably means I sold it (with the exception of the final 4 items listed below). Please e-mail me directly at: paleo.v...@gmail.com paleo.v...@gmail.com . I only get the digest version of the list, so I won¹t get it very quickly if you send messages that way. Thanks in advance, Dustin Sharp San Diego, Calif. (1) Nitto Noodle Bars two sets both 46cm. $50 each + shipping. (2) Nitto UI-5GX stems two of them, 100mm and 120mm. 26.0. $50 each + shipping. (3) Nitto Technomic stem (12cm, 26.0) $25 + shipping. (4) Rivendell-built Mavic Open Sport/105 front wheel. $100 + 15 shipping. (5) ZTR 355 29er / XT hub wheelset. $300 + shipping. (6) Shimano XTR Dual Control Levers M970 - V-brake model. $200 + shipping. (7) Thomson seatposts three of them all silver and 27.2. Varying condition and prices, $35 40 + shipping. (8) Profile BMX single speed chainwheel - 39T. $20 + shipping. (9) Surly Stainless Steel Chainwheel 38T. $20 + shipping (10) Two Koobi PRS Alpha Saddles. $70 + shipping and $50 plus shipping. (11) Three Ortlieb Saddlebags, two large, one medium. $20 each plus shipping. (12) Salsa Lip Lock Seat Clamp. 30.0 clamp size. $10 + shipping. (13) Specialized S-Works All Conditions Tires 700x25, set of two, $40 + shipping. (14) Ortlieb Backroller Classic Panniers. $80 + 20 shipping. (15) Nitto Campee Front Rack. $100 + 20 shipping. (16) Groovy Cycles Luv Handles MTB Bars. $50 + 10 shipping. (17) Blackburn rear rack $10 + 10 shipping. (18) Middleburn 94/58 Spyder. $45 + 5 shipping. (19) Middleburn 94/58 Spyder and 46-34-20 rings, hardcoat and slickshift. $60 + 10 shipping. (20) BBG Bashguards. $5 each + 5 shipping. (21) Cateye EL-610. $50 + 10 shipping. (22) Minoura handlebar bottle mounts. $6 each + 5 shipping. (23) Salsa Cross Guard Bashring. $10 + 5 shipping. Finally, I have a couple of items not pictured on Flickr, but which will be for sale in the next week and photos will be available soon: (1) SRAM XX BB30 mountain crank, 175mm, 156Q, 28-42 rings. Arms only, no BB. Only about 50 miles use, but a fair number of dings on the bottom of the cranks from pedal strike. $200 + 20 shipping. (2) Shimano 10-speed XT rear cassette, 11-34. About 50 miles. $50 + 10 shipping. (3) Ritchey WCS carbon MTB bars, 58cm across. 50 miles. $70 + 10 shipping. (4) Ergon GX1 grips, team green! 50 miles use. $20 + shipping. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Whole Lotta Things for Sale [FINAL UPDATE]
Folks, Thanks for all of your interest. It¹s great to be able to do so much trading on this list without having to go to e-bay. With that said, all of the remaining stuff plus a little more is now on e-bay! http://shop.ebay.com/m_ba/m.html?_trksid=p4340.l2562 The following items are not on e-bay, but will go up in the 3 days or so: -- SRAM XX BB30 mountain crank, 175mm, 156Q, 28-42 rings. Arms only, no BB. Only about 50 miles use, but a fair number of dings on the bottom of the cranks from pedal strike. $200 + 20 shipping. --Shimano 10-speed XT rear cassette, 11-34. About 50 miles. $50 + 10 shipping. --Ritchey WCS carbon MTB bars, 58cm across. 50 miles. $70 + 10 shipping. --Ergon GX1 grips, team green! 50 miles use. $20 + shipping. With that, I¹ll leave it alone and let everyone go back to the regularly scheduled programming. Cheers, Dustin On 5/18/11 6:18 AM, Dustin Sharp paleo.v...@gmail.com wrote: Folks, Here is the revised list this morning after several of the items were picked up last night. Shipping prices are to CONUS via either USPS priority mail or parcel post. (my choice depending on what is closest to what I have charged for shipping) I think/hope the prices are pretty fair and I have set them low enough to avoid needing to haggle. I am happy to combine shipping if you want multiple items. Please go to flickr for details on conditions and pics: http://www.flickr.com/photos/33769898@N04/sets/72157626517528338/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/33769898@N04/sets/72157626517528338/ If you no longer see the pic on Flickr, that probably means I sold it (with the exception of the final 4 items listed below). Please e-mail me directly at: paleo.v...@gmail.com paleo.v...@gmail.com . I only get the digest version of the list, so I won¹t get it very quickly if you send messages that way. Thanks in advance, Dustin Sharp San Diego, Calif. (1) Nitto Noodle Bars two sets both 46cm. $50 each + shipping. (2) Nitto UI-5GX stems two of them, 100mm and 120mm. 26.0. $50 each + shipping. (3) Nitto Technomic stem (12cm, 26.0) $25 + shipping. (4) Rivendell-built Mavic Open Sport/105 front wheel. $100 + 15 shipping. (5) ZTR 355 29er / XT hub wheelset. $300 + shipping. (6) Shimano XTR Dual Control Levers M970 - V-brake model. $200 + shipping. (7) Thomson seatposts three of them all silver and 27.2. Varying condition and prices, $35 40 + shipping. (8) Profile BMX single speed chainwheel - 39T. $20 + shipping. (9) Surly Stainless Steel Chainwheel 38T. $20 + shipping (10) Two Koobi PRS Alpha Saddles. $70 + shipping and $50 plus shipping. (11) Three Ortlieb Saddlebags, two large, one medium. $20 each plus shipping. (12) Salsa Lip Lock Seat Clamp. 30.0 clamp size. $10 + shipping. (13) Specialized S-Works All Conditions Tires 700x25, set of two, $40 + shipping. (14) Ortlieb Backroller Classic Panniers. $80 + 20 shipping. (15) Nitto Campee Front Rack. $100 + 20 shipping. (16) Groovy Cycles Luv Handles MTB Bars. $50 + 10 shipping. (17) Blackburn rear rack $10 + 10 shipping. (18) Middleburn 94/58 Spyder. $45 + 5 shipping. (19) Middleburn 94/58 Spyder and 46-34-20 rings, hardcoat and slickshift. $60 + 10 shipping. (20) BBG Bashguards. $5 each + 5 shipping. (21) Cateye EL-610. $50 + 10 shipping. (22) Minoura handlebar bottle mounts. $6 each + 5 shipping. (23) Salsa Cross Guard Bashring. $10 + 5 shipping. Finally, I have a couple of items not pictured on Flickr, but which will be for sale in the next week and photos will be available soon: (1) SRAM XX BB30 mountain crank, 175mm, 156Q, 28-42 rings. Arms only, no BB. Only about 50 miles use, but a fair number of dings on the bottom of the cranks from pedal strike. $200 + 20 shipping. (2) Shimano 10-speed XT rear cassette, 11-34. About 50 miles. $50 + 10 shipping. (3) Ritchey WCS carbon MTB bars, 58cm across. 50 miles. $70 + 10 shipping. (4) Ergon GX1 grips, team green! 50 miles use. $20 + shipping. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Whole Lotta Things for Sale
Hi everyone, Time for some spring-cleaning and I thought I¹d offer things up to the list before sticking them on flea-bay. Shipping prices are to CONUS via either USPS priority mail or parcel post. (my choice depending on what is closest to what I have charged for shipping) It may take me a few days to get boxes for some of the items, so please don¹t buy them if you are in a super-duper hurry. I will get them out within the week though. I think the prices are pretty fair and I have set them low enough to avoid needing to haggle. I am happy to combine shipping if you want multiple items. Please go to flickr for details on conditions and pics: http://www.flickr.com/photos/33769898@N04/sets/72157626517528338/ Please e-mail me directly at: paleo.v...@gmail.com. I only get the digest version of the list, so I won¹t get it very quickly if you send messages that way. Thanks in advance, Dustin Sharp San Diego, Calif. (1) Nitto Noodle Bars two sets both 46cm. $50 each + shipping. (2) Thomson seatposts three of them all silver and 27.2. Varying condition and prices, $35 40 + shipping. (3) Profile BMX single speed chainwheel - 39T. $20 + shipping. (4) Surly Stainless Steel Chainwheel 38T. $20 + shipping (5) Shimano XTR Dual Control Levers M970 - V-brake model. $200 + shipping. (6) Nitto UI-5GX stems two of them, 100 and 120. 26.0. $50 each + shipping. (7) Two Koobi PRS Alpha Saddles. $70 + shipping and $50 plus shipping. (8) Three Ortlieb Saddlebags, two large, one medium. $20 each plus shipping. (9) Nitto Technomic stem (12cm, 26.0) $25 + shipping. (10) Salsa Lip Lock Seat Clamp. 30.0 clamp size. $10 + shipping. (11) Rivendell-built Mavic Open Sport/105 front wheel. 700C $100 + 15 shipping. (12) Berthoud Race Saddle, Ti Rails. $100 + 10 shipping. (13) ZTR 355 29er / XT hub wheelset. $300 + shipping. (14) Specialized S-Works All Conditions Tires 700x25, set of two, $40 + shipping. (15) Tubus Logo Rack - Stainless Steel Version. $80 + 20 shipping. (16) Ortlieb Backroller Classic Panniers. $80 + 20 shipping. (17) Arkel XM-28 Panniers in Burgundy. $100 + 20 shipping. (18) Nitto Campee Front Rack. $100 + 20 shipping. (19) Groovy Cycles Luv Handles MTB Bars. $50 + 10 shipping. (20) Jones Bars/Ergon grips (new versions). $90 + 10 shipping. (21) Berthoud Saddle Bag $40 + 8 shipping. (22) Blackburn rear rack $10 + 10 shipping. (23) Middleburn 94/58 Spyder. $45 + 5 shipping. (24) Middleburn 94/58 Spyder and 46-34-20 rings, hardcoat and slickshift. $60 + 10 shipping. (25) BBG Bashguards. $5 each + 5 shipping. (26) Cateye EL-610. $50 + 10 shipping. (27) Minoura handlebar bottle mounts. $6 each + 5 shipping. (28) Salsa Cross Guard Bashring. $10 + 5 shipping. (29) Phil Wood 123mm BB, with Cups, Symmetrical Finally, I have a couple of items not pictured on Flickr, but which will be for sale in the next week and photos will be available soon: (1) SRAM XX BB30 mountain crank, 175mm, 156Q, 28-42 rings. Arms only, no BB. Only about 50 miles use, but a fair number of dings on the bottom of the cranks from pedal strike. $200 + 20 shipping. (2) Shimano 10-speed XT rear cassette, 11-34. About 50 miles. $50 + 10 shipping. (3) Ritchey WCS carbon MTB bars, 58cm across. 50 miles. $70 + 10 shipping. (4) Ergon GX1 grips, team green! 50 miles use. $50 + shipping. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Blacksheep Adventure Bike for Sale
Up for sale is my titanium Blacksheep monstercross/MTB/touring do-it-all adventure bike with SS couplers. Geometry (posted below) is not far off from a Rivendell Atlantis. This bike was made to serve as a sort of Swiss Army knife, and works well in a number of different configurations. Since I had it built back in 2007, I¹ve had it set up as a Rohloff-equipped drop bar monster cross type bike, a single speed cross bike, a road touring and commuting bike, and an H-bar equipped, 29er tired mountain bike. I am looking to sell the frame/fork/ and Chris King headset. However, if you are interested in a complete bike, I could possibly sell it in its current H-bar setup, or possibly a drop bar setup with Nitto Noodle bars, v-brake drop bar levers, and bar cons. If you bought the frame and fork new from Blacksheep today, it would cost an eyewatering $4500. The bike has been ridden, has the usual cable rub, and has some quirks (see below). I¹m asking $1800 for the frame/fork/headset, which its just over 1/3 of what it would cost new. I could throw in a used SS hard case ($400 new), for an even $2000. Since this is Ti, you can return the finish to new with a little scotch brite and a lot of elbow grease, but it looks just fine as it is. Geometry: Effective TT: 59.5 (C-C) Seattube: 56 (c-c) (toptube upslope is around 6 degrees) STA HTA: 72 BB Drop: 75 Fork rake: 5.2 Axle-crown: 42.5 Headtube: 18 Chainstays: 44.5 (about middle of the sliders, so some room in either direction) Standover at mid toptube with 700x38s: 86.5 Things to note (important!) The bike will accept a Nanoraptor 29er tire, though the clearance in front is not very big when set up this way, and would not be ideal if you want to ride it in a muddy area with these tires. I¹ve done lots of mixed surface miles on Nanos here in southern california, and they work great. There is a small dimple in the Toptube from where the TSA goons opened the SS case and shut it again improperly. It¹s purely cosmetic and I¹ve ridden the bike for 3 years since this incident with nary a problem. Still, it¹s there, as you can see in the pics below. Two years ago, I sent the bike back to James at Blacksheep and had him remove and reattach the rear sliders. He beefed up the welds and moved the rackmounts back to make more pannier heel clearance. I did this because there was a 2mm hairline crack on one of the welds. The new sliders have been reattached with extra beefy welds and James assures me its stronger than it ever was. I¹ve ridden it over hill and dale with nary a problem since. With some sets of brakes, you need to use the top position of the canti studs up front to get strong spring tension. Brakes work great‹just something to note if you buy it and are trying to set up your brakes. You¹ll want to replace the seatclamp as this one is getting a bit stripped out. Lots of pics on my blog: http://paleovelo.com/2011/04/15/blacksheep-adventure-bike-for-sale And even more on Flickr: http://www.flickr.com/photos/33769898@N04/sets/72157625879737275/ Please reply directly to with any questions or if you are otherwise interested: paleo.v...@gmail.com Thanks, Dustin Sharp San Diego, Calif. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] WAS: SDR Kitchen Creek 200K NOW: Jerseys for the heat
A few things I have used, starting with hot summer training for the death valley double last year: Arm coolers are great if you don¹t want to spring for the Boure jersey, or if you want to convert a light, short-sleeve jersey to a sun-protective and cooling one. I¹ve used these, but there are plenty of others that work well: http://www.desotosport.com/products/product.asp?Category=accessoriesProdID= AC Hammer endurolytes are great for hot weather cramping, and you can dose them up as the heat goes up. They don¹t seem to upset my stomach, and they are a good way to make sure you get a constant supply in hot weather when many other foods become unpalatable: http://www.hammernutrition.com/products/endurolytes.elt.html Patrick in VT swing4...@gmail.com Jun 09 07:31AM -0700 ^ #digest_top +1 on the Bouré jersey. I have one, in blue. Although I neglected to wear it on Saturday because highs were expected only in the low 80s. Drat! thanks for the tip on this jersey, fellas. you sunny Californian kids probably have higher tolerances for heat as it is. personally, low 80s means my lightest, white full zip jersey and pouring water over my head every 5 mins when climbing. short sleeves and shorts for anything over 55F. maybe arm-warmers if it's breezy. anyway, any other hot weather clothing/tips to share? ditching my hat, unzipping full zip jerseys and working V8 into my fluids intake do wonders for me. V8, especially - that stuff is magic if you can stomach it on a hot day. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] WAS: SDR Kitchen Creek 200K NOW: Jerseys for the heat
These are great jerseys for the heat if anyone is interested. They actually keep you cooler than a short sleeve jersey. http://www.boure.com/8605wh.html Used it for the Death Valley Double and many a hot ride since then. Dustin Michael_S mikeybi...@rocketmail.com Jun 07 05:53PM -0700 ^ #digest_top Looks like a fantastic place to ride... if the weather cooperates... Dustin had the right idea with a reflective white jersey- smart thinking. I've been thinking about doing one of these events but I'll wait for cooler weather. ~Mike~ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] SDR Kitchen Creek 200K...er... Almost
Here¹s another report on the same ride: http://paleovelo.wordpress.com/ Esteban proto...@gmail.com Jun 06 07:40PM -0700 ^ #digest_top So, four of us rode the San Diego Randonneurs Kitchen Creek brevet yesterday. Aaron and I rode our Romulii, Joe on his Riv Road, and Dustin on his lugged steel Kirk. The attire (as I'm sure everyone wants to know) ranged from Woolistic to Rapha to Boure, to Fat Cyclist. There was lycra. There were cleats. There was Perpetuem . However, we rode with the Riv spirit of surveying the scenery and camaraderie -- and focused on enjoying the ride. We rode that spirit all the way home by deciding to bail out after suffering up Kitchen Creek road in mid-90s temps. I suffered the worst - the other three could have finished! Here's the report: http://veloflaneur.wordpress.com/2010/06/06/a-difficult-day-sdr-kitchen-creek -200k/ Esteban San Diego, Calif. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Haleakal? Sunrise
Thought some of you might enjoy a short trip report of my ride down Haleakal? volcano: http://paleovelo.wordpress.com/ What could be more rivish than volcano riding? I am wearing wool at least! Cheers, Dustin Sharp -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Riv's favorite names from the suggestions
New name for women's mixte: Granny Wrinkle Toes Man, I bet that one would sell like hotcakes. From: Me clotht...@gmail.com Reply-To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Date: Thu, 6 May 2010 14:02:14 -0700 (PDT) To: RBW Owners Bunch rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Subject: [RBW] Re: Riv's favorite names from the suggestions LaToya Jackson? Maybe for a carbon fibre whip. I get it though, but yeesh... Plastique Fantastique. One scary woman, is she. How about a lugged frameset with a S curved downtube that has a removable top tube via SS couplers to convert it to a Mixte: The removable TT is decal'd with Chazz Bono; the downtube is decal'd with Chastity Bono? Seat Tube, beyond the Rivendell decals, says He Said/She Said. -Scott On May 6, 1:45 pm, Grant Petersen gr...@rivbike.com wrote: Abe Vigoda and Dick Van Patton--- pure genius! I think Jerry Van Dyke might beat both of those, though. Larry Matthews, for a youngster's bike? LaToya Jackson, for a women's bike. There's only so much time, only so many lugs. -- Grant Rivendell Bicycle Workswww.rivbike.com 925 933 7304 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Top Ten Names for the next Rivendell Bike
Superfluous Tuboleo From: reynoldslugs be...@perrylaw.net Reply-To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Date: Wed, 5 May 2010 12:22:19 -0700 (PDT) To: RBW Owners Bunch rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Subject: [RBW] Re: Top Ten Names for the next Rivendell Bike Daddy Claxton LA Freeway Manila John Mongo Santamaria On May 5, 11:20 am, Bridgestone alancr...@mac.com wrote: Top Ten Names for the next Rivendell Bike 10. Travelino 9. Henri Torres 8. Vagabondo 7. Hugonaut 6. Velocipes 5. Navigador 4. Luis Rotundus 3. F. Murray Abraham 2. Uniped (lugged steel unicycle, made for touring) 1. Retro Grouchier -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Top Ten Names for the next Rivendell Bike
I think I would be compelled to buy just about any frame Riv made if it were called Inigo Montoya. Even if it had a silly double top tube. From: Darin G. dbg...@mac.com Reply-To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Date: Wed, 5 May 2010 13:46:51 -0700 (PDT) To: RBW Owners Bunch rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Subject: [RBW] Re: Top Ten Names for the next Rivendell Bike Abiyoyo Inigo Montoya Loch Leven Border Reiver Carnomore On May 5, 12:20 pm, Bridgestone alancr...@mac.com wrote: Top Ten Names for the next Rivendell Bike 10. Travelino 9. Henri Torres 8. Vagabondo 7. Hugonaut 6. Velocipes 5. Navigador 4. Luis Rotundus 3. F. Murray Abraham 2. Uniped (lugged steel unicycle, made for touring) 1. Retro Grouchier -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: SoCal Riv May 1 Riv Ride; Photos
Happy to lead people on a mixed terrain adventure at any point. It does get hot in the areas with the best riding during the summer months though--something to keep in mind. From: Michael_S mikeybi...@rocketmail.com Reply-To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Date: Mon, 3 May 2010 09:18:39 -0700 (PDT) To: RBW Owners Bunch rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Subject: [RBW] Re: SoCal Riv May 1 Riv Ride; Photos I'm game for a repeat ( or something like it) I just need to schedule it with staying at my daughters place down there. My wife and daughter need to do some wedding dress shopping... this may work out just great! ~Mike~ On May 3, 7:17 am, Andy.M andy.e.m...@gmail.com wrote: Looks like it was a great ride! I'm bummed that I missed it, but Seattle was amazing! Anyone down for a repeat some upcoming weekend? -Andy On May 1, 7:59 pm, Dustin Sharp paleo.v...@gmail.com wrote: Seven turned out for today's SoCal Riv ride, riding everything from a Roadeo with Jack Browns, to a MTB singlespeed with 29x2.4 tires. 42 miles, 5600 feet of climbing, and about 80% of it on dirt. Temps in the high 60s. This was some of the best mixed-surface riding around. Paved road, dirt road, rough fireroad, and a little single track. Some pretty steep pitches, including one stretch of 21% grade dirt. Stats and map: http://connect.garmin.com/activity/31903053 Pics: http://www.flickr.com/photos/33769...@n04/sets/72157623847776549/ Cheers, Dustin Sharp San Diego, Calif -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: SoCal Riv May 1 Riv Ride; Photos
So far I'm pleased as punch with it, especially as it makes swapping between 4 bikes with different wheel sizes easy. Lots of stats and figures to geek out on. The heart rate monitor is fun too--first time ever experimenting with one. Re the altimeter: when you upload your data to the online system to get the mapping, you have the option of having it correct the data based on available topographic sources. That never seems to result in more than a few feet of correction, so I'm guessing it's accurate enough for most purposes. The one thing it doesn't do is offer turn-by-turn instructions like the bigger and more expensive Garmins. D On 5/2/10 8:40 AM, MikeC mecinib...@sbcglobal.net wrote: Dustin, Great photos. Interesting ride statistics. How do you like the Garmin 500? How accurate is the altimeter? -Mike On May 1, 10:59 pm, Dustin Sharp paleo.v...@gmail.com wrote: Seven turned out for today's SoCal Riv ride, riding everything from a Roadeo with Jack Browns, to a MTB singlespeed with 29x2.4 tires. 42 miles, 5600 feet of climbing, and about 80% of it on dirt. Temps in the high 60s. This was some of the best mixed-surface riding around. Paved road, dirt road, rough fireroad, and a little single track. Some pretty steep pitches, including one stretch of 21% grade dirt. Stats and map: http://connect.garmin.com/activity/31903053 Pics: http://www.flickr.com/photos/33769...@n04/sets/72157623847776549/ Cheers, Dustin Sharp San Diego, Calif -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Protorio/esteban photos
There are more coming. Wait till you see the ones from the Riv ride we will be doing today! On 5/1/10 7:42 AM, happyriding happyrid...@yahoo.com wrote: They are crazy beautiful: http://i453.photobucket.com/albums/qq255/protorio/4201937687_4047b61466_b.jpg This thread is filled with them: http://sdbikecommuter.com/comments.php?DiscussionID=7page=1 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] SoCal Riv May 1 Riv Ride; Photos
Seven turned out for today's SoCal Riv ride, riding everything from a Roadeo with Jack Browns, to a MTB singlespeed with 29x2.4 tires. 42 miles, 5600 feet of climbing, and about 80% of it on dirt. Temps in the high 60s. This was some of the best mixed-surface riding around. Paved road, dirt road, rough fireroad, and a little single track. Some pretty steep pitches, including one stretch of 21% grade dirt. Stats and map: http://connect.garmin.com/activity/31903053 Pics: http://www.flickr.com/photos/33769...@n04/sets/72157623847776549/ Cheers, Dustin Sharp San Diego, Calif -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: SoCal Riv May 1 Riv Ride; Photos
Great pics, David. Hope the ride didn¹t set your knee recovery back too much. Man, if we¹d a had a video camera, this would have been up with Jay¹s Hunq video. Straight out of a Riv promo ad. On 5/1/10 9:59 PM, cyclotourist cyclotour...@gmail.com wrote: This was an amazing ride. Probably the toughest I've ever been on. Lots of climbing up front, then marvelous alpine singletrack. Lots of mud. Terrible fires through there over the last decade, so all the big trees were dead, but lots of new growth at the ground level. If you notice Dustin's stats, there was about two hours of non-riding time... I think 75% of that was his/their waiting for me. Thanks for that by the way!!! I'm slow in general, but about 4/5 of the way into it my knee quit working, which really sucked for me. Good Mexican food at the end, too! Anyway, a great time, even with the slow and the knee. Some more pics here: http://www.flickr.com/photos/cyclotourist/sets/72157623972486340/ On Sat, May 1, 2010 at 9:46 PM, Me clotht...@gmail.com wrote: Very nice, enjoyed it, thanks for sharing! -Scott On May 1, 7:59 pm, Dustin Sharp paleo.v...@gmail.com wrote: Seven turned out for today's SoCal Riv ride, riding everything from a Roadeo with Jack Browns, to a MTB singlespeed with 29x2.4 tires. 42 miles, 5600 feet of climbing, and about 80% of it on dirt. Temps in the high 60s. This was some of the best mixed-surface riding around. Paved road, dirt road, rough fireroad, and a little single track. Some pretty steep pitches, including one stretch of 21% grade dirt. Stats and map: http://connect.garmin.com/activity/31903053 Pics: http://www.flickr.com/photos/33769...@n04/sets/72157623847776549/ Cheers, Dustin Sharp San Diego, Calif -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com mailto:rbw-owners-bunch%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en . -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com mailto:rbw-owners-bunch%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] What a Difference A Little Albatross Makes
That's a great makeover. Reminds me of the ones they do from time to time in the Riv Reader. On 4/30/10 3:13 PM, Marty mgie...@mac.com wrote: I keep buying these bars, and they make every neglected old bike (in this case, and old Rockhopper) something very special. Thanks Rivendell, for introducing me to them! Marty http://tinyurl.com/264rhdr -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Paul racer M's
I'm pretty excited about these brakes too; So much that I have speced the braze-on version for an incoming custom. And then there is the love I have for my neo-retros on another bike. Best cantis out there. Cheers, Dustin Sharp San Diego, Calif. On 4/26/10 5:29 AM, MichaelH mhech...@gmail.com wrote: I (quite literally) owe my life to my neo-retros; that's why I speced the racers on my new tandem and will convert my Rambouillet to Racer Ms, as soon as I get the scratch. Growing old stinks, but it still beats the alternative. Michael On Apr 26, 2:01 am, paul p...@paulcomp.com wrote: These brakes work with 45mm fenders AND 32 tires. That's what I have on my Salsa Cassaroll, the proto machine for the proto brakes. I love these things. They keep on stopping in relation to lever force vs hitting a flexing point were the force just stays the same no matter how hard you pull. I am biased, duh, but this is a product I am really proud of. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Hobbies that compliment your Rivendell lifestyle
Apparently off-topic posting to bike lists is chief among the hobbies that complement Riv lifestyles. ;) Dustin Sharp San Diego, Calif. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Four by Four Array of bikes
And they had tails like unto scorpions, and there were stings in their tails: and their power was to hurt men five months. From: Esteban proto...@gmail.com Reply-To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Date: Thu, 15 Apr 2010 15:48:48 -0700 (PDT) To: RBW Owners Bunch rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Subject: [RBW] Re: Four by Four Array of bikes This reads like a passage from the Book of Revelation. On Apr 15, 3:35 pm, William tapebu...@gmail.com wrote: So the three Hunqa prototypes at RBWHQ have three different handlebars: The 48 has Bullmoose bars The 54 won't be around until next week or later The 58 has Noodles The 62 has Albatross bars It seems natural to me that they'd build the 54 with a Moustache bar, and that the bike would be equally right with all 4. That's true of several Rivendell models. So, my hypothetical is: Imagine that Rivendell built up a 4x4 array of bikes. In the four columns are four models of bike (all in your size of course): the Sam Hillborne, the Bombadil, the Atlantis, and the Hunqapillar. In the four rows are those four handlebars: Noodle, Moustache, bullmoose and Albatross. How many bikes would you need to build your stable? And which bikes would you pick? I imagine some of you might pick 3 or 4 Atlantis'. Some others might replace the Hillborne column with a Hilsen column. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] WTB: Nitto Soba Bars
Anyone out there have an unused set you¹d be willing to part with? Prefer 44cm. Let me know off list if you¹d be willing to sell. Dustin Sharp San Diego, Calif. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] FS: Rohloff Wheel + parts
Hi All, I¹m selling my Rohloff 500/14 CC hub, attached to a 700c Velocity Dyad rim (32x, double butted spokes, brass nips). Hub and wheel are all silver. This is the quick release version of the hub (CC). It is not the disk brake version of the hub. Making the hub work with your bike: (1) To run a Rohloff, you need some way to deal with the torque the hub produces. The hub is currently set up with the OEM axle plate. This only works with the special Rohloff dropouts. However, you can order the OEM2 axle plate that will allow you to use the Rohloff with any bike that has international standard disk brake mounts for 30 bucks: http://aebike.com/page.cfm?action=detailsPageID=30SKU=HU3053 With this setup, you use the IS disk mount to resist the torque of the hub. (2) To run a Rohloff, you need somewhere to run the cables to the hub. I had cables running off the rear canti-stud, works really well. I will include the part that lets you do that. If you buy the part and convert the hub to the external gearbox option, you would not need to do the canti-stud routing. (3) To run a Rohloff, you need some way to tension the chain. This can be done with an eccentric BB, sliding dropouts, or the Rohloff chain tensioner (not included). If you have horizontal dropouts, some people have made it work just by using a really burley steel skewer. I have no experience with that. NOTE: These hubs are highly adaptable/configurable. If you buy the parts, you can convert the hub to run with risk brakes rather than rim brakes. Basically, anything can be converted to anything if you buy the parts. The only thing that can¹t be changed is the fact that this is the lighter quick release axle version, and not the solid axle bolt-on version. Things I¹m including: (1) Hub, laced to Velocity rim. (2) 16T cog. (3) Rohloff cog tool (needed to removed cog) (4) Rohoff Gripshifter (5) Hubub drop-bar Adapter (lets you run the Rohloff shifter with drop bars if you want) (6) Canti bolt adapter (required so you can run the cables off a rear canti-stud). (7) Two sets unused Rohloff shifter cables and housing (8) Oil change kit with syringe. (bottle of cleaning fluid is not full). (9) Miscellaneous unused spare parts handy to take with you when touring, etc. History of the hub: Hub was purchased in 2006. Rohloff recently replaced the entire gearbox with a new unit. Basically, everything inside the hubshell is brand new and you¹ll have to break in a new hub (takes about 5000 kilometers). Outer hubshell is fine, but has scratches and a few deep gouges from riding inside an SS travel case. In essence, you are getting a new hub with a somewhat cosmetically challenged shell. Rim: Rim has a few deep scratches from SS travel. It could use a tiny bit of truing. Basically, I¹m selling the hub, but am too lazy to remove the rim. You get what you get in the rim dept. Tire in pictures is not included In sum, if you have the right bike, this is the chance to pick up a functionally new Rohloff hub for relatively cheap. This hub would run you at least $1200 new. Price: $600 + shipping. Prefer to keep shipping domestic. Figure for yourself that you will probably need to invest at least $30 for the OEM 2 adaptor to use IS disk mounts as the torque arm. You will spend more if you want to convert it for actual disk brake use or to the external gearbox. If you happen to have a bike with Rohloff dropouts, or are planning to acquire one, you may not need to change anything. Pics: http://www.flickr.com/photos/33769...@n04/sets/72157623702726555/ Contact me off list with any questions. Regards, Dustin Sharp San Diego, CA -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] FS: Frog Pedals, Tubus Rack, Campy Wheel
Hi All, I have a few items for sale. (1) Speedplay frog pedals + cleats. Stainless steel axles. Exactly 70 miles on them. Will be shipped in original box. $85 + shipping. (2) Tubus Duo low rider rack. New, never mounted. $50 + shipping. (3) Campy rear wheel: 2006 Campy Record hub (back when they were still silver + classic looking) laced to silver MA3 rim. 36h, double butted, brass nips. About 1000 miles on them. Needs slight truing, but is in good shape. Includes 13-29 10 speed cassette (I think centaur level). $100 + shipping. It may take me a few days to be able to wrap and ship (need to find a box for the Tubus rack in particular), so hopefully you aren't in too much of a hurry. Contact me with questions off list. Regards, Dustin Sharp San Diego, Ca. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] San Diego Custom Bicycle Show - Ques from Newbie - should I ride or drive to it Sat?
They have an excellent setup for bike parking. Your bike will be safe. On 4/9/10 9:35 PM, James Warren jimcwar...@earthlink.net wrote: First off, looking forward to Sunday. Staring at my unmounted fenders now. But main topic: I just realized that I can go to the show tomorrow. So should I drive and deal with parking the car and leave bike at motel or should I ride the bike to the show. Sounds like a no-brainer, but here's the question: what's the bike locking/parking like? Any reason I should worry about locking precious bike at the show? How are people handling this on Sunday? Thanks, Jim W. -Original Message- From: James Valiensi valie...@mac.com Sent: Apr 9, 2010 10:26 PM To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [RBW] Re: San Diego Custom Bicycle Show Photos Hi, Maybe it was the Joe Bell paint job. (there was a Rivendell in his booth too). One thing about this show: there were no pure show bikes that were otherwise useless. Everyone had fine machines that anyone could happily ride. This show is the one of the best, and San Diego makes a very nice vacation destination. Cheers! On Apr 9, 2010, at 4:05 PM, Aaron Thomas wrote: Thanks for posting these photos. I'd hate to be unfair to contemporary builders, and perhaps I'll come off sounding like an incurable retro- grouch, but I can't help but think that the vintage Colnago in your photo set is the best in show. I want. On Apr 9, 3:03 pm, James Valiensi valie...@mac.com wrote: Enjoy, http://www.flickr.com/photos/jamespatrickvaliensi/sets/72157623819107... James Valiensi, PE Northridge, CA H818.775.1847 M.818.585.1796 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. James Valiensi, PE Northridge, CA H818.775.1847 M.818.585.1796 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: There's another Jay-riding video up
I have to admit, that video made me want one, and I don't need one! I've got the monster cross thing covered. But . . . Maybe I don't have the monster cross with albatross bars slot covered! Guess this advertising stuff works after all. From: Seth Vidal skvi...@gmail.com Reply-To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Date: Wed, 7 Apr 2010 16:59:14 -0400 To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [RBW] Re: There's another Jay-riding video up On Wed, Apr 7, 2010 at 4:33 PM, William tapebu...@gmail.com wrote: I just called Jay, complemented his work.and pulled the trigger on a 54 Hunqa. Woot! That should definitely reinforce the efficacy of a video-based advertising campaign. :) -sv -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] What happened to the Nitto Soba?
Riv doesn't seem to carry this anymore. Does anyone else offer it? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: What happened to the Nitto Soba?
41cm. I'm a big guy. On 4/7/10 8:39 PM, Andy.M andy.e.m...@gmail.com wrote: Hey Dustin, I was surfing around on riv's site and saw them on the web specials. -A On Apr 7, 8:30 pm, Dustin Sharp paleo.v...@gmail.com wrote: Riv doesn't seem to carry this anymore. Does anyone else offer it? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: There's another Jay-riding video up
Yeah, it¹s a nice feature. New brakes coming in the mail. Hope that fixes the fork shudder issue. But I betcha' you can use the front brake on this one. That's always a plus! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: There's another Jay-riding video up
Jay is having way too much fun with these. They just get better and better. Makes me want a bike with Albatross bars! From: William tapebu...@gmail.com Reply-To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Date: Tue, 6 Apr 2010 17:17:07 -0700 (PDT) To: RBW Owners Bunch rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Subject: [RBW] Re: There's another Jay-riding video up Oh SNAP! It was all Jay, solo. That's something else. On Apr 6, 5:13 pm, William tapebu...@gmail.com wrote: If it's still Dave doing the filming he's learning how to shoot and edit REALLY quickly. This one is legit. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] SoCal Riv Appreciation Society Ride: May 1 or 2
Details posted on the Flickr site: http://tinyurl.com/yfqjuj9 And for those of you who don't like to click links, you will find the details below: OK, this is it folks, the rough riders ride to equal if not beat the best of the best. You will not be sorry, unless you don't come. We're going to do a version of the Boulder Creek Loop that the Rough Riders did last July: http://www.xo-1.org/2009_07_01_archive.html This version will be shorter than the original RR version at only 40+ miles and 5000 feet of climbing, but will involve more dirt. About 80-85% dirt. We'll start in the hamlet of Descanso and head north up Boulder Creek Road, as you can see on the map below. However, when we get to Lake Cuyamaca, we we will head south using fire roads rather than the pavement on route 79. (Those with skinnier tires or who are feeling tired can still opt for the pavement of route 79 and end up in the same place). http://ridewithgps.com/routes/51619 Basically, you get about half the ride on super smooth dirt road and the second half on fire road with almost no traffic at all. It's about as good as it gets. The ride itself takes about 5.5hrs+. You will not wish for more. There is one stop for water and food refueling at the half way point. Camelback or 3 bottles recommended. You will climb. If you want to take the fire roads in the second half of the ride, something fatter than 35s is recommended. Otherwise, the pavement may be the better option. Yes, yes, Descanso is far from LA. But just pretend you are a hardened mountain biker. We routinely drive 2.5 hrs up to do the Palm Canyon Epic or SART. It's worth driving for an epic ride! Don't wuss out and make mountain bikers laugh at you because you are afraid to drive or commit a whole day for some nice dirt. We may look into getting a University of San Diego apt/crash pad if folks want to drive up the night before. This depends on folks committing to the ride and expressing an interest in it. If you come the night before, dinner and beer will be scheduled. Finally, please let us know if it would make a difference if we do it on May 1 or 2. Thanks! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: San Diego Custom BIcycle Show Rivendel l Ride! Apr. 11 Mixie €Velo Cult €Beer
The house shook quite a bit, but nothing fell out or broke. We felt 2-3 aftershocks as well. They were small ones though. On 4/4/10 4:27 PM, cyclotourist cyclotour...@gmail.com wrote: I live ~200 miles away and our house was a shakin'. Long quake, maybe 30 seconds? Esteban is probably still on the road from the Bay Area. Dustin, what were things like in S.D.??? On Sun, Apr 4, 2010 at 4:19 PM, William tapebu...@gmail.com wrote: I hope all you So-Cal Rivvers (and everyone else) is OK after that 6.9 Earthquake On Apr 4, 4:16 pm, Esteban proto...@gmail.com wrote: Eric--some of this is the route we did last year. Gonna be fun. On Apr 4, 5:48 am, EricP ericpl...@aol.com wrote: Wish I wasn't 3,000 or so miles away. Would love to get back out there and particpate in those rides. Eric Platt St. Paul, MN On Apr 4, 12:17 am, Esteban proto...@gmail.com wrote: Forget the fact that I don't know what size bikes I ride. Let's ride, drink beer, and see fancy bikes! Highlights - Mixed terrain urban route! Velo Cult! Craft Beers! Big Time Bicycle Show! Last year, the SDCBS was a fantastic event - featuring framebuilders new and old (figuratively and literally), and a nice Riv custom in the Joe Bell booth. A few of us rode a loop around San Diego Bay. This is going to be a great event, and I hope some list members make some of the show: http://www.sandiegocustombicycleshow.com/ Of, course, the So Cal Rivendell Bicycle Appreciation Society will hold court on Sunday morning (April 11) for a mid city mixie. For those who want to see the ocean and enjoy a bit more of a ride, we'll meet at 9am at the Mission Bay Visitors Center and do this loop (San Diego River, Ocean Beach, Sunset Cliffs, Pt. Loma, Downtown)... then, we'll pick people up at the train station. http://www.bikely.com/maps/bike-path/Mid-City-Mixie-Extended-Route And for those who want to sleep in, and/or just want a tolken ride to through two tolken dirt sections in the middle of one of the largest cities in the U.S., meet us at 10ish at the Santa Fe Depot downtown, and we'll cross downtown up to Balboa Park, through the Haunted Trail along the 163, down the dirt section of Florida Canyon ( a bit bumpy, but not bad), up to Velo Cult in South Park, then down 30th St. (The Brewlevard) to Blind Lady Ale House for a beer and lunch. Then down to the show: http://www.bikely.com/maps/bike-path/Mid-City-Mixie402176 So, if you want to do 30 miles, meet at 9am at the Mission Bay Visitors Center. For those who want a shorter 15 mile ride, we'll pick you up at Santa Fe Depot at 10ish. The ride will be short, prioritize the view, some dirt, a stop at Velo Cult, and a craft beer and pizza. Kid friendly! Esteban San Diego, Calif. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com mailto:rbw-owners-bunch%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Paul Racer Braze-on Process
This is what Chris Kostman did with his Roadeo when Riv wasn¹t offering downtube shifter bosses: sent it to Joe Bell, where brazing was done, and then sealed up with a stellar coat of paint. On 4/1/10 7:42 AM, cyclotourist cyclotour...@gmail.com wrote: I wonder if Rivendell will ship the bare or primered frame to the builder of your choice for brazeons (of whatever kind) and a paint. That would be a good way to avoid W'Ford's excessive upcharge. On Thu, Apr 1, 2010 at 5:41 AM, JoelMatthews joelmatth...@mac.com wrote: Thanks for the link Marty. I have read good things about Mr. Bishop. Appears to be giving a lot of loving attention to your Trek. East Coast Roadeo buyers take note! Buy an unpainted frame and fork - and a custom builder can set it up for RacerMs. On Apr 1, 6:10 am, Marty mgie...@mac.com wrote: During the recent thread on the topic, I mentioned I'm having some work done on an old frame, and part of that is adding posts for Paul Racers. I'm having Chris Bishop here in Baltimore do the work. Here's the link to a set that shows some of the steps: http://tinyurl.com/ydeg9qo Marty -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com mailto:rbw-owners-bunch%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Grant's latest post.
I think I just enjoy all kinds of riding off road. When I ride with cross tires and drop bars, I really enjoy myself, even if I get a bit beat up. I'm happy folks like Grant Petersen and Chris Kostman are trying to popularize this type of riding as it's a lot of fun and most bikes can do way more than we give them credit for. On the other hand, when I ride rougher trails on my dual suspension 29er, I also have a blast, and it takes me to places in terms of distance and trail difficulty I could not get to on cross tires. At least not without hand neuropathy. So there is a place for both bikes and both kinds of riding. There are also lots of trails in between that are fun either way. I was joking the other day as we were doing some underbiking here in SoCal about the irony that some on the Riv/Bob lists seem to relish riding the fattest tires they can on the road (Hetres/Big Apples) and yet then want to ride things like skinny pasela 32s off road. Perhaps we all have a strong contrarian streak. Dustin you can pry my disk brakes from my cold, dead hands Sharp San Diego, Calif. On 3/30/10 5:20 AM, Frederick, Steve frede...@mail.lib.msu.edu wrote: Good read and I enjoy underbiking once in a while, and love riding dirt roads on one of my versatile Riv/Grant bikes. But I prefer a suspended bike for riding real, trails just because I can't take the pounding. I think Grant's preferences for roadish trail bikes stem in part from his location--Marin County is opposed, even hostile toward biking on trails, going all the way back to the birth of modern mountain biking. The less you look like a Mountain biker, the less likely you are to face the wrath of upset hikers and ticket writing rangers. Steve bouncy bikes on the trail, lugged steel on the road, Frederick, East Lansing, MI -Original Message- From: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com [mailto:rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com]on Behalf Of Mike Sent: Monday, March 29, 2010 4:39 PM To: RBW Owners Bunch Subject: [RBW] Grant's latest post. http://www.rivbike.com/blogs/news_post/221 I really like his observations about riding off-road. I like this piece a lot and it makes a nice companion piece to go with Tips for Happy Riding. I don't mountain bike anymore but I used to do it a lot when leaving in the Bay Area. Part of me always felt that I was forcing myself to descend and climb faster than I really wanted which took some of the fun out of it. I still miss the people I rode with down there. As fast as they are they remain a great group of people. But I'm much happier with the pace of my riding here. Oh, I should clarify that while I don't mountain bike I still ride plenty of unpaved roads and even some singletrack now and then in Forest Park and Powell Butte. The Hilsen does just fine on these trails. --mike -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Grant's latest post.
I spent about 4 years where my only bike was a Gunnar crosshairs, and I made a point of proving that I could ride just about any ³mountain bike² trail on it. It was great, and I learned a lot about bike handling. I remember getting crazy stares high up in the Rockies when groups of mountain bikers realized that I made it up there on my, gasp, ³10 speed.² These days I have more than one bike, and I¹ve realized that just because I CAN do a particular trail on a cross bike doesn¹t necessarily mean that it¹s ENJOYABLE to me on a cross bike. So for me today the transition from drop bar cross bike to suspension mountain bike happens when riding the ³road² bike off road stops being fun. That can happen because I¹m just getting too beat up, or spending so much time on descents holding the brakes that my hands hurt, etc. Depends on the trail, or how far I¹m planning to ride that day. Horses for courses, but most horses can run lots of courses. Dustin Sharp San Diego, Calif. From: PATRICK MOORE bertin...@gmail.com Reply-To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2010 08:50:36 -0600 To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [RBW] Re: Grant's latest post. On Tue, Mar 30, 2010 at 8:33 AM, rswat...@me.com rswat...@me.com wrote: 2. And, more important, where -- what terrain and conditions -- do you, personally, (y'all) leave the sub 28 mm tire'd, drop bar'd bike at home and take out the other one? You couldn't pay me to ride sub 28mm tires! ' I guess that's why I got such a good deal on those Turbos ... -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Grant's latest post.
Wow! That bike really pops off the screen. Nice! From: Esteban proto...@gmail.com Reply-To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2010 10:09:16 -0700 (PDT) To: RBW Owners Bunch rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Subject: [RBW] Re: Grant's latest post. Here's Mike's monstercross (forgive me) Hillborne all-rounder bomber: http://www.flickr.com/photos/37347...@n05/4449447882/sizes/l/ Pretty awesome! Mike - have you thought of adding 'cross levers? They might do the trick nicely. I'd prefer an Hillborne built up this way to a Hunqa. But that's perhaps meant for beefier riding/loads? Esteban San Diego, Calif. On Mar 30, 9:54 am, Michael_S mikeybi...@rocketmail.com wrote: My Hillborne is pretty close to Chris's all rounder with slightly smaller 700x40 knobbies. I did start with Noodle drop bars but after a particularly steep and long dirt downhill this past Sunday I am starting to think about a different handlebar. Maybe a WTB dirt drop ( with black ano removed! ) because long continous braking is much better in the drops which are not as comfortable on the Noodles. Can't access Flicker from work but pics are at my site under Mikeybikes. The Hillborne is perfect for this with the upslope top tube. Next up are some 700x 45 or 47 knobbies, I've been eyeing the Kenda Karma's at 1.9 wondering if they would fit? ~Mike~ On Mar 30, 9:23 am, Esteban proto...@gmail.com wrote: I just caught this:http://www.adventurecorps.com/chronicles/2003/2003moabmaze/pages/DSC0.. . andhttp://www.flickr.com/photos/25671...@n02/4473833906/ Kindred spirits. So.. will someone build up a Hillborn in this manner? Or post pics if you got it? Seems like it would be pretty perfect for such a build. Don't mean to hijack the skinny tires offroad thread. Esteban San Diego, Calif. On Mar 30, 9:06 am, Esteban proto...@gmail.com wrote: I love all this stuff - and Grant's and Chris' writings are fun, provocative, and useful. Rough riding underbiking is where its at. Seems to be a common interest among the Riv Appreciation Society riders down here. It is indeed fun to ride a road bike with Jack Browns or Pasela 32s or 35s out on the trails. Its a gas. I'm also having a gas on the Rawland with 58mm knobbies, but all-rounder geometry. Think XO-1 with a 6 degree upslope tt and fat ass tires. I don't get out on singletrack as much as I like, but when I do (Big Laguna loop, Los Penasquitos Preserve, San Clemente Canyon, Nobel Canyon here in SD County), I certainly have a ball on that bike. I like to ride to the trail if possible, and the knobbies sure do cause a racket! I'm an overly cautious rider on dirt, and as Chris mentions, a lot of where I ride can be pretty darn rocky offroad. And if I'm to believe Dustin, some of the rides I'd like to do would cause more sanity with suspension. I think suspension is helpful if you're in a group. The thing is, and here's where I think Grant's spot on (if indeed conservative), if you just go slow, hike-a-bike, enjoy the scenery, you can take any bike nearly anywhere. Looking forward to the Rough Riders Rally to discuss this further with kindred souls! On Mar 30, 9:28 am, CycloFiend cyclofi...@earthlink.net wrote: on 3/30/10 4:20 AM, Frederick, Steve at frede...@mail.lib.msu.edu wrote: I think Grant's preferences for roadish trail bikes stem in part from his location--Marin County is opposed, even hostile toward biking on trails, going all the way back to the birth of modern mountain biking. The less you look like a Mountain biker, the less likely you are to face the wrath of upset hikers and ticket writing rangers. Actually, Grant and Rivendell's location is in the East Bay - specifically Contra Costa county. That doesn't change or undercut his message - and in fact his comments are incredibly salient. I, on the other hand, have somehow managed to remain in Marin. Lucky me... ;^) In the interest of not promoting stereotypes, it should be noted that attitudes of hostility here in the birthplace of mountain biking have refined and mellowed over the years. Yes, there are high-profile and hotheaded comments made from the same entrenched individuals on both sides of access issues, and that tends to get press when it happens. But, the facts are that bicycles have been common on the trails for more than 20 years. in general, people are used to them and realize they aren't going anywhere. Most people behave well. Many people could use some constructive criticism. Some people have no clue. http://ramblings.cyclofiend.com/?p=273 I do find that when people see me way up some trail on the Hilsen or Quickbeam, the first response is to smile. But, I'm pretty proactive in doing the same and finding something to comment about, other than saying onyerleft. Wildflowers, birds and weather are always good starting points. - Jim -- Jim Edgar
Re: [RBW] Re: Racer M Alive!
I don't understand the Waterford thing either. I don't know about the stays, but the tubes I know about on the Roadeo aren't exactly super light and thin, unless you are comparing them to the Bombadil. At at least as stout as the Rambo, and stouter than the Legolas, I think, at least in the bigger sizes. They are billing it as a light, rackless, go-fast bike, but it's still Grant Petersen conservative in its own way. Plus, there are other light tubed bikes (Boulder Bike) where Waterford attaches canti studs w/ no fuss. So it would be interesting to have a better explanation for Waterford's reticence. As for Waterford, that seemed to me a cop-out estimate, unless they can explain the issue. They can't be serious unless they're talking about a re-paint as well. I'm having the bosses put on an older frame as we speak, and the cost is more in line with what Joel suggested. Also agree with him on the adjustability - I have center mounts on a single speed that feel and work perfectly, only wish I had them brazed on. Marty On Mar 26, 5:47 pm, JoelMatthews joelmatth...@mac.com wrote: Oh, and the reason I say too bad if true is that at first the word from Riv was no DT braze ons for the Roadeo. Now it is an option. If demand is there, Riv may well find a way to convince Waterford the folly of its ways. On Mar 26, 4:45 pm, JoelMatthews joelmatth...@mac.com wrote: Well, that is too bad if true. The Brazeons modulate better than centerposts. Too strong would never be an issue. Pauls have near infinite and very easy adjustability. Once you get the hang of it, in a matter of minutes you can set the brakes where they will throw you over the handlebars with barely a finger twitch or so slack you need to pull the levers to the grip to slow down. On Mar 26, 4:38 pm, William tapebu...@gmail.com wrote: Speculating is fun, but I called and asked Keven for the answer. I've talked with him a few times about a Roadeo maybe next year, so I asked how it would work if I wanted Paul Racer posts. He said Waterford is violently opposed to posts. He asked them previously to do it for a customer and they said no. He asked more encouragingly and they reluctantly said OK for $500 extra. So, in conclusion, he said if I had to have them, we should pursue a Nobillette built Riv custom. So there you have it. You can't get them, but it's no fault of Rivendells. Keven also pointed out all the obvious common sense things. The center mount ones are already so strong, maybe too strong. What more do you need?. If they are too strong you can replace them with less strong center mount ones. Having a single-source for any of your parts to keep your bike rideable is risky. All correct statements. On Mar 26, 2:15 pm, JoelMatthews joelmatth...@mac.com wrote: There's a post-mount version, so you don't need special braze-ons. Though, to maximize function/purpose, the brazeons are the way to go. I have experienced original Racers in post mount and braze on. The post mounts are probaby better than 99% of what is out there today. The Brazeons are that much better than the post mounts. Braze on is a cleaner look and easier to adjust and maintain as well. Hope Riv agrees. On Mar 26, 4:07 pm, Gino Zahnd ginoza...@gmail.com wrote: There's a post-mount version, so you don't need special braze-ons. Though, to maximize function/purpose, the brazeons are the way to go. -Gino On Fri, Mar 26, 2010 at 11:06 AM, Michael_S mikeybi...@rocketmail.com wrote: Boy those polished ones are the cats pajama's! will Riv add the braze on's to the Roadeo? I can't tell from your conversation? ~Mike~ On Mar 26, 11:00 am, JoelMatthews joelmatth...@mac.com wrote: Hello, Keven? It's me Bill, can you sell me a bike to fit these brakes? A Roadeo? Sounds perfecto! How much to add braze on mounting posts? $25.00 per post? I am in heaven! On Mar 26, 12:05 pm, William tapebu...@gmail.com wrote: Those are swank! I can't afford not to have a set. Hello, Keven? It's me Bill, can you sell me a bike to fit these brakes? A Roadeo? Sounds perfecto! On Mar 26, 7:52 am, Marty mgie...@mac.com wrote: Very nice option for many builds. Fits 45mm fenders with no brake arm interference! http://www.paulcomp.com/racerm.html-Hidequotedtext- - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.-Hidequotedtext- - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to
Re: [RBW] Racer M Alive!
Between the arms there is enough clearance to fit a 45mm fender and a 32mm tire Hm. Says 32, but I wonder if a tire measuring 33.333 might just fit? On 3/26/10 7:52 AM, Marty mgie...@mac.com wrote: Very nice option for many builds. Fits 45mm fenders with no brake arm interference! http://www.paulcomp.com/racerm.html -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Riv goes Paleo
Do you do eggs and dairy? Hard to get low carb on a pure vegan diet, I think. Unless you are drinking vats of coconut milk. From: Bill Gibson bill.bgib...@gmail.com Reply-To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Date: Tue, 23 Mar 2010 10:32:59 -0700 To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [RBW] Re: Riv goes Paleo I wonder how to implement a lower carb diet as a veg? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Riv goes Paleo
FWIW, eating Paleo to me isn't a diet in the traditional sense of the word. At 6'2 and 175 lbs, I am not trying to lose weight. It's really a set of flexible eating and exercise principles that resonate with a good number of people. In any event, if we start debating what to eat it's going to take us off topic pretty quickly, so I'll go back into my cave now. Cheers, Dustin From: manueljohnacosta manueljohnaco...@hotmail.com Reply-To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Date: Tue, 23 Mar 2010 11:23:57 -0700 (PDT) To: RBW Owners Bunch rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Subject: [RBW] Re: Riv goes Paleo It's funny because in my Physical Education class my students just recently went over the lesson of what to look for in physical fitness products and programs. People need to be weary of going on diets or exercise routines. Not saying that these programs or diets don't work, most in fact work really well, to a point. BUT there needs to be a realization that when taking on any type of physical improvement on oneself it shouldn't come in form of diets or programs, it should be a lifestyle change. One where you don't try to fit physical activity around your schedule but you fit your schedule around your physical activity. On Mar 23, 10:47 am, Seth Vidal skvi...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Mar 23, 2010 at 1:44 PM, Dustin Sharp paleo.v...@gmail.com wrote: Do you do eggs and dairy? Hard to get low carb on a pure vegan diet, I think. Unless you are drinking vats of coconut milk. Cut out white-flour breads and pastries of any kind. That's a big carb cut. But in general, I wouldn't fuss with it if you're vegetarian. eat well, eat food. -sv -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Riv goes Paleo
Sounds pretty simple, but I wonder why we as a nation keep getting fatter and fatter when we all know how to do the opposite? Seems more accurate to say that we Americans all know how to get fat and unhealthy on the Standard American Industrial Diet, but a few people have figured out that by eating real food and staying active, it's possible to stay relatively healthy. It blows my mind when I walk into a mainstream grocery store how little real food there actually is. Eat a variety of healthy whole foods and exercise regularly - everybody knows how to do that, and what it looks like, tastes like and feels like. Yep, that's it. Now... how do we market that big idea? :) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Riv goes Paleo
Yes, the traditional explanation for the obesity epidemic is that people are stupid, lazy, and eat too much. There's something to that, but I tend to think there is much more to it as well, including bad government policy/subsidies, bad science, and a horrendously profitable franken-food industry. People have mentioned Michael Pollen's books, and I can't say enough good things about them. I'd also add Good Calories, Bad Calories by Gary Tabues as another must read for those interested in the same topics. D From: Eric Norris campyonly...@me.com Reply-To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Date: Tue, 23 Mar 2010 17:00:20 -0700 To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [RBW] Re: Riv goes Paleo Knowing and doing are two different things. Most (all?) smokers know it's killing them, but they smoke anyway. Add to that our ridiculous American serving sizes, and it's not too hard to figure out why there's an obesity epidemic. --Eric campyonly...@me.com www.campyonly.com www.wheelsnorth.org On Mar 23, 2010, at 4:26 PM, Dustin Sharp wrote: Sounds pretty simple, but I wonder why we as a nation keep getting fatter and fatter when we all know how to do the opposite? Seems more accurate to say that we Americans all know how to get fat and unhealthy on the Standard American Industrial Diet, but a few people have figured out that by eating real food and staying active, it's possible to stay relatively healthy. It blows my mind when I walk into a mainstream grocery store how little real food there actually is. Eat a variety of healthy whole foods and exercise regularly - everybody knows how to do that, and what it looks like, tastes like and feels like. Yep, that's it. Now... how do we market that big idea? :) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Riv goes Paleo
Sounds like Grant is getting more serious about the primal eating exercise philosophy: http://www.marksdailyapple.com/ It all makes a lot of sense. I've been working the kettle bells a bit and trying to do more cross training since I got into the primal stuff myself. Dustin Had a free Saturday, so Duy and me rode to Rivendell to grab some things for our upcoming S240 trip to Mt.Diablo. It's ironic that the only bike shop I go to is a shop where I don't buy bike stuff and I always find myself talking to the staff about non-bike related things. For instance Grant and I got into a conversation that started with wrestling, then went on to fitness, then it ending up with Grant showing me the Rivendell Gym(Complete with rowing machine and dip station) and also some cool variations of pull-ups using tree branches and rope. He also showed us this cool suspended push-up rope exercise made from PVC piping and rope. He even donated some materials for me to make some of these Grant Push-Up contraptions for my students to use in Physical Education. By far one of my most favorite trips to Rivendell, not very often do you see the owner of a bike shop doing pull ups! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Roadeo Fender Mounting Question
How elegant is the fender mounting setup on the Roadeo: can the rear fender be screwed directly in to the rear chain and seatstay bridges, or do you need to use brackets or other kludges? Just wondering. Dustin -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Roadeo Fender Mounting Question
You might say that. Also looking at the Hampsten Strada Bianca, which is a similar idea. On 3/21/10 5:53 PM, cyclotourist cyclotour...@gmail.com wrote: Empty hook in the garage??? :-) On Sun, Mar 21, 2010 at 5:38 PM, Dustin Sharp paleo.v...@gmail.com wrote: How elegant is the fender mounting setup on the Roadeo: can the rear fender be screwed directly in to the rear chain and seatstay bridges, or do you need to use brackets or other kludges? Just wondering. Dustin -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com mailto:rbw-owners-bunch%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Child seat recommendations?
Gotta say . . . One of my earliest memories--I must have been 3 or so--is my mom going down on her tenspeed with me on the rear-mounted child seat. None of us were wearing helmets, of course. I survived, but happened to fall in an ant pile. That sucked. Dustin From: William tapebu...@gmail.com Reply-To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Date: Fri, 19 Mar 2010 10:00:32 -0700 (PDT) To: RBW Owners Bunch rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Subject: [RBW] Re: Child seat recommendations? I think that the US is completely out of synch with the rest of the world in terms of what is considered safe and what is not. The thinking that leads to the trailer recommendation is that the higher you mount your child to the bike, the harder they hit the ground when your bike goes down. Most trailers don't tip over at all when the bike falls, which is certainly nice. The things that have to be balanced against that feature is that trailers are much more expensive, much heavier, much harder to secure when parking, virtually impossible to incorporate with any public transportation. Possibly most importantly, your vehicle is now so massive that riding in traffic is terrifying for many, and it is easy to assume that the risk of being hit by a vehicle is increased. If you apply the same logic that Grant uses to rationalize not wearing a helmet, you will claim that riding with your small child on the bike makes you so much more careful that the remote chance of you going DOG (down on ground) is rendered infinitessimally small. If that risk is acceptable, then a smaller, cheaper option that gives you the ability to have your child right there with you, in your view, where you can talk to her, is likely to work fine. I used a Burley Solo trailer, partially because my wife was scared of falls, and we kept our kid rides to bike paths only. I have since converted that trailer to cargo, which is a cool conversion that is possible with a nice trailer. The other reason we did that was that all my bikes were lightweight go-fasts when my kids were small that didn't take kidseats well. On Mar 19, 9:22 am, Weird Harold alanpcr...@yahoo.com wrote: I just read that the American Association of Pediatrics recommends trailers instead of bike seats. Any opinions on that? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: What's the right saddle for a Roadeo?
I don't know how anyone can bear to ride a B-17 with even modest saddle-to-bar drop. That hard nose just digs into your nether regions like nothing else! I don't know if things like the Swallow are better in this regard. Narrower in the back, but still rock hard in the front, no? From: Patrick in VT psh...@drm.com Reply-To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Date: Fri, 19 Mar 2010 16:10:33 -0700 (PDT) To: RBW Owners Bunch rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Subject: [RBW] Re: What's the right saddle for a Roadeo? On Mar 19, 4:38 pm, usuk2007 clive.stand...@umassmed.edu wrote: I just think the B17 looks a little clunky on the Roadeo. i think it depends on the set-up too - a B17 is a fine saddle when the bars are at (or even above, as some like) saddle height. in my experience, narrower saddles feel better when there is some handlebar drop and the bike is set-up for more aggresive riding. i think it's same as far as looks go to - wider saddles look just fine when the handlebars are up, narrower saddles look better with some handlebar drop. a b17 narrow would be another option. that's a nice saddle for all you brooks fiends. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: What's the right saddle for a Roadeo?
For me at least, anything more than an inch or so and I had a hard time getting comfy on a B17, no matter how much I played with tilt. Most of my bikes have close to two inches of drop. Set up with a set of albatross bars and a more upright position, the same B-17 genital torture device became quite pleasant to ride. When you can get it right, nothing is more comfy than a Brooks. I'm tempted to try one of the new Berthoud saddles to see if that works better than the B-17 with about 2 inches of S-t-B drop. Dustin From: Steve Palincsar palin...@his.com Reply-To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Date: Fri, 19 Mar 2010 19:53:41 -0400 To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [RBW] Re: What's the right saddle for a Roadeo? On Fri, 2010-03-19 at 16:19 -0700, Dustin Sharp wrote: I don't know how anyone can bear to ride a B-17 with even modest saddle-to-bar drop. How small qualifies as modest? That hard nose just digs into your nether regions like nothing else! I don't know if things like the Swallow are better in this regard. Narrower in the back, but still rock hard in the front, no? Brooks saddles don't work for everyone, but they do work for many. The Team Pro works very well with low bars, and its nose is no softer than that of the B.17. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Riv rider as Mr. Retro
He¹s half Italian. Maybe it¹s just ³The Retrissimo² On 3/18/10 3:35 AM, Bruce fullylug...@yahoo.com wrote: Nah, Senor Retro, because after all, it's Esteban. From: Mike mjawn...@gmail.com To: RBW Owners Bunch rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Sent: Wed, March 17, 2010 11:02:56 PM Subject: [RBW] Re: Riv rider as Mr. Retro Hey, Mr Retro actually a pretty cool name. Oh wait, how about Monsieur Retro since you're a randonneur. - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Chris K's Roadeo
Hard to get a more ringing endorsement than that! From: XO-1.org Rough Riders adventureco...@gmail.com Reply-To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Date: Thu, 18 Mar 2010 15:07:08 -0700 (PDT) To: RBW Owners Bunch rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Subject: [RBW] Re: Chris K's Roadeo I love this bike so much, it's actually going to replace about eight bikes in my stable! eBay is going to see my XO-1, RB-1, Kestrel 4000, classic Raleigh, Tom-built Ritchey tandem, Alan Carbonio, Tom-build Ritchey classic, and much more very soon, now that I have a bike with the proper seat angle, super tire clearance, and the all-important classic, timeless, purposeful aesthetic for randonneruing, Rough Riding, and hauling butt all in one bike! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: New Jay/Vaughn video Mystery item revealed
If you really want to dress to impress, make sure to wear the Riv lobster bib together with the following items to your next MCRB club ride: (1) Mud flappers: http://www.rivbike.com/products/show/sackville-mudflappers/27-011 (2) Rain hat: http://www.rivbike.com/products/show/grundens-rain-hat/22-147 (3) suspenders: http://www.rivbike.com/products/show/suspenders/22-391 From: Jim M. mather...@gmail.com Reply-To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Date: Thu, 18 Mar 2010 16:02:13 -0700 (PDT) To: RBW Owners Bunch rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Subject: [RBW] Re: New Jay/Vaughn video Mystery item revealed Just about spit coffee on my keyboard when I read that. Gernot guessed it exactly. On Mar 18, 3:58 pm, Eric Norris campyonly...@me.com wrote: The Mystery Item needs to have a picture of a lobster on it. --Eric campyonly...@me.comwww.campyonly.comwww.wheelsnorth.org -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Riv rider as Mr. Retro
There's even retro-cabon: Calfee From: jpp paste...@notes.udayton.edu Reply-To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2010 08:59:59 -0700 (PDT) To: RBW Owners Bunch rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Subject: [RBW] Re: Riv rider as Mr. Retro Mr. Retro, That is pretty funny. Glad to know your old steel frame could handle it. But you know for some of the more racey guys a 2003 bike is retro. I have a friend who gets a new race/crit bike every year, two years maximum. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: $300 Sugino Double Crankset
On that note, I don't really understand what the appeal of the Mighty Tour might be. If you spec'ed a nicer version of the XD (with high polish quality rings), you could sell it for $200 and still have a better deal than the Mighty Tour. The Q factor difference between the two cranks is insignificant. It won't please the true low-Q folks, and for some of us wider is better anyway. Maybe some care that the aluminum is supposed to be higher grade, but since the XDs are plenty strong and actually lighter, I'm not sure what that fancy aluminum gets you except for an increase in price. Not saying the MT isn't a great crank, just not sure how I'd justify spending the extra coin over a dressed up XD. Dustin From: William tapebu...@gmail.com Reply-To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2010 14:14:00 -0700 (PDT) To: RBW Owners Bunch rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Subject: [RBW] Re: $300 Sugino Double Crankset That VO Alpina is nice, but if I was looking for the economical route, I'd seriously consider the $105 XD700. That's a pretty sweet crank and I kind of prefer the not-so-polished finish. To each his/her own, I suppose. Thanks to whomever pointed out the TA Carmina. Even though it appears pricey, and only imported by Euro Asia, it's good to know that one can get a 94 or a 94/58 crankset in 172.5 for a square taper BB. On Mar 17, 9:38 am, bfd bfd...@yahoo.com wrote: On Mar 16, 1:57 pm, William tapebu...@gmail.com wrote: On Mar 16, 1:39 pm, Patrick in VT psh...@drm.com wrote: On Mar 16, 3:04 pm, William tapebu...@gmail.com wrote: The Sugino website doesnt list the Mighty Tour as a triple capable crank. Do you mean the Alpina? I'd love to see that imported as a triple. looks like the Mighty Tour will be sold as a double, but can be triple- ized with a special ring. which looks ridiculous to me. Any conjectures as to the alleged flaw Grant is referring to in the original incarnation of the Alpina? sounds like there are various versions of the Alpina, so it's hard to tell which crank is being called out - but I assume this includes the Alpina VO sells? Other than the sculpted crankarms (and a possible flaw), is there any difference between the Alpina (the VO Alpina, to be clear) and the Mighty Tour? I would assume there has to be some difference, since VO themselves said that if they were to bring in the Mighty Tour, they would sell it for $375. Since they already sell the Alpina double at $170, that's more than double the price. It looks like the Mighty Tour has denser material (lower Q, visibly thinner, yet higher weight) so that material must be a lot more costly to buy and manufacture from. Can you feel the difference? I wish I knew. They are both great looking cranks.- Hide quoted text - Agree, the mighty tour is a nice looking crank, but not something I would jump up and say I HAVE TO GET. Actually, for the money, I prefer the VO Alpina. The only flaw I see on the VO crank is the logo, it should have used the Sugino crown logo. If I was looking for a new crank, that would be it. Good Luck! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: $300 Sugino Double Crankset
I'm thinkin' we're kind of stocked up with 110/74 options these days. If you really want some good wide-range double gearing possibilities to open up, 95/58 would be a lot better. And it's something the market isn't offering much of. Hope that's what Riv is going to offer . . . Dustin From: William tapebu...@gmail.com Reply-To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2010 15:53:02 -0800 (PST) To: RBW Owners Bunch rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Subject: [RBW] Re: $300 Sugino Double Crankset Another shot of the Mighty Tour with rings on the Sugino site. Looks awesome: http://www.suginoltd.co.jp/japan/chainwheelset_MightytourPE110s_japan.htm Velo Orange kind of opened the suggestion box and I suggested that they consider bringing in the Mighty Tour. Tom at VO said that they'd have to sell it for $375 and had no interest in taking that kind of risk. Just as well I suppose, since they refuse to stock 172.5 unless badgered incessantly. On Mar 11, 6:33 am, No Brakes Atlanta nobrakesbi...@gmail.com wrote: My bet is that it's the new Sugino Mighty Tour, Merry(soma) from what I have seen has the intention of stocking them, so I bet Riv will get in on it. No prices that i've seen yet, but from the pictures I could see them retailing for 300. On Mar 10, 8:26 pm, Bruce fullylug...@yahoo.com wrote: I picked up a Sugino GX 53/39 on Ebay that is now on my Rambouillet. It was orig equip on the B'stone RB-1 and has a very tight Q. I think I paid about $39.95 for it with not much more than usual usage scratches from shoes on it. Not as pretty as the V-O, or the upcoming RBW to be sure, but if you like a light crank with low Q From: rperks perks@gmail.com To: RBW Owners Bunch rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Sent: Wed, March 10, 2010 5:54:47 PM Subject: [RBW] Re: $300 Sugino Double Crankset I know not everybody loves low Q, but I dream of the day ritchey cranks in the old style come back, and yes they show up on ebay for the prices that it looks like RBW is asking, but the stess of bidding can get to be a drag, that and the addictive compulsion to stockpile. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: New Hunquapillar Video
Marathon XRs are indeed versatile, but they ride (and wear) like iron. Plump Marathon Supremes are the better bet if you aren't doing a trans-continental epic. From: EricP ericpl...@aol.com Reply-To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2010 18:01:07 -0800 (PST) To: RBW Owners Bunch rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Subject: [RBW] Re: New Hunquapillar Video My PBH is 89 and was told a 58 is right. Which is what I ordered. Probably could straddle a 62, but it would feel huge. (A comparison, once tried a 62 Quickbeam and the reach was way long. Don't believe the bike had an abnormal stem or anything.) Had been contemplating tires. Maybe those Marathons? Looks like it was a good test ride. Makes me want to get out on some long rides this weekend. Maybe even (gasp) take the Hillborne out now that roads are pretty much clear of ice. Eric Platt St. Paul, MN On Mar 11, 5:02�pm, William tapebu...@gmail.com wrote: Marty That seems to make sense. �It's just that the Hunqasizing chart has your 92 PBH on the small end of the 62 range and Jay's 90 (if that is right) outside of that range. �It makes me think that my 87 PBH could work on a 58, but I can't envision me and Keven riding the same size of anything. �Maybe Keven should get a 62, just to make me feel better. �:P On Mar 11, 2:51�pm, Marty mgie...@mac.com wrote: Didn't show him standing over the frame, but there was a scene of him stopped in the saddle. It looked right to me. I'm a 92, and they concurred that a 62 would be right for me when I called to order one. (I usually ride a 64) There is some overlap shown on the fit chart, but I couldn't see myself on a 58 and I'm not planning to use it in MTB mode in any case - certainly no rougher stuff than the video shows. Tires for me will start out at 40 since I have a newish pair of Marathon XRs in that size, and I'll go from there. On Mar 11, 5:37�pm, William tapebu...@gmail.com wrote: Answered it myselfkind of. �Jay rides a 63cm AHH. �So he's probably about a 90. �So that 62 should have been too big. �Right? Maybe I need to watch the video again. On Mar 11, 2:23�pm, William tapebu...@gmail.com wrote: Looked great. �What is Jay's PBH? �That 62 Hunqa seemed to fit him just fine. On Mar 11, 2:16�pm, John Bennett johnat...@gmail.com wrote: Great video make by Vaughn (camera) and Jay (riding and editing). Just posted on YouTube. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r2W2--ku0zM- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] New Hunquapillar Video
Dylan soundtrack to Pat Garret and Billy the Kid. From: Ray Shine r.sh...@sbcglobal.net Reply-To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2010 17:24:01 -0800 (PST) To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Cc: RBW Owners Bunch rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [RBW] New Hunquapillar Video Yeah, the bike is fine, and all. But, I'd really like to know who made the music Please advise. Ray Sent From My iPhone On Mar 11, 2010, at 3:16 PM, John Bennett johnat...@gmail.com wrote: Great video make by Vaughn (camera) and Jay (riding and editing). Just posted on YouTube. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r2W2--ku0zM -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] New Hunquapillar Video
Hope the soil in the bay area recovers more quickly than down here in SoCal. Mud ruts like that often harden up and don't recover until the following rainy season Oh, awesome video though! Dustin From: John Bennett johnat...@gmail.com Reply-To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2010 14:16:57 -0800 (PST) To: RBW Owners Bunch rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Subject: [RBW] New Hunquapillar Video Great video make by Vaughn (camera) and Jay (riding and editing). Just posted on YouTube. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r2W2--ku0zM -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: $300 Sugino Double Crankset
If it were as light as the new VO TA cranks with a Q above 160, I'd probably pay. But I'm predicting it'll be a really nice TA Zephyr-like or Ritchey Logic-like compact double with low Q. From: rcnute rcn...@hotmail.com Reply-To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2010 12:06:56 -0800 (PST) To: RBW Owners Bunch rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Subject: [RBW] Re: $300 Sugino Double Crankset Too rich for my blood. Ryan On Mar 10, 11:19 am, William tapebu...@gmail.com wrote: I was intrigued to see today's news describing a new double crankset. I'm a little surprised to see that it's going to be $300. Not that they can't be worth it, but Velo Orange sells a $170 Sugino double that they claim has every possible upgrade and upcharge that Sugino knows how to make in a square taper double. It's pretty saucy:http://www.velo-orange.com/sualcr.html I wonder how Riv's will differ? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] What would you pay for a used custom?
If aesthetics matter, some customs might have better filing on the lugs and higher quality paint. Bu to me the real value of a custom is not things like paint, but the fact that tubes are actually chosen for your weight, rather than with a 300lb rider in mind. So I'd say a used custom might be worth a premium to me if the original owner was near my weight, had a preference for the same level of frame flex, and the bike had been built accordingly. Often we don't know those things, so a used custom to me isn't worth that much more than a quality stock frame in my size. Dustin From: Seth Vidal skvi...@gmail.com Reply-To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Date: Tue, 9 Mar 2010 15:10:08 -0500 To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [RBW] What would you pay for a used custom? On Tue, Mar 9, 2010 at 3:07 PM, William tapebu...@gmail.com wrote: So, if a new custom costs $3000 and a new stock frame costs $2000 from the same builder (Waterford Rivs, for example), then your used custom is worth some percentage less than $2000, in my opinion. Am I wrong about that? Would you pay more for a used custom Riv (that fit you) than you would for a used Hilsen (in your best size)? I think they have identical value, assuming they are the right bike for the application, etc etc. Well - a custom isn't made at waterford, iirc. Mark(?) Nobliette(sp?) is doing those. -sv -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Widest wide range double chainring setup? How wide is too wide?
Yup, I pretty much ride mine as a 1x9 until the hills come. I'm running 44-30 and 12-27. I do spin out on bigger hills and occasionally wish for something a bit easier for extreme grades. Maybe I should give 44-28 a shot with one of SRAM's 11-28 cassettes. The other thing that makes this setup work well is having a big ring that is positioned to let you use almost all of your gears. For me, 135 rear spacing and using the inner two rings of a Sugino XD triple with a 113 bb makes for a great chainline. Dustin IMO a workable wide-range double uses the small ring only as a bail- out for the biggest climbs, and the big ring for everything else. Something like 44/24 x 12-xx would work pretty well for me. Bill -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Tubesets: Rambouillet v Roadeo
Didn't someone mention earlier that the tubes on the larger Roadeos are the same if not beefier than the Rambos? If so, I'm not sure why so much is being made of it being a light bike that isn't designed for any kind of a load whatsoever. From: newenglandbike matthiasbe...@gmail.com Reply-To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Date: Thu, 4 Mar 2010 09:21:37 -0800 (PST) To: RBW Owners Bunch rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Subject: [RBW] Re: Tubesets: Rambouillet v Roadeo I remember from this post that most of Rivendell's frames are 8/5/8: http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch/browse_thread/thread/9b63d62ff d368e31/829ef6df4ed06b49?q=#829ef6df4ed06b49 Which makes it seem strange that the larger sizes of the Roadeo would be 8/6/8- since that would make it beefier than their other more trail-oriented frames such as the AHH (if the above post implies that the AHH 8/5/8 and the Quickbeam). On Mar 4, 12:11 pm, reynoldslugs be...@perrylaw.net wrote: Thanks for finding that... 8/6/8 for the larger sizes makes sense. Now, for the last piece of the puzzle - and for the prize cigar and kewpie doll - did Grant ever post the tubeset thicknesses for the Rambouillet? I looked back in old Readers and couldn't locate anything. On Mar 4, 7:31 am, Horace max...@sdf.lonestar.org wrote: -- Forwarded message -- From: gr...@rivbike.com grantmill...@gmail.com Date: Jul 9 2009, 1:21 pm Subject: Frame-Bike Plans (some) To: RBW Owners Bunch Newlite Roadbike. TheROADEO---final name, final spelling, thanks for all your input and don't take offense. This is really Mark's bike, by which I mean he asked for it/suggested it as a bike for clubbies. He's a club rider a couple of days a week, and rides his cross bikes--which to me are light enough, at 19-20lb, even with fatty tires (and he's still the fastest by a good margin, and the humblest). But he sees his fellow clubbies buying road bikes with carbon this and that, and was thinking hmm, they should get a nice lugged steel bike, and if we made it light enough and roadynuff they probably would. Originally,'twas gunnabe for short reach brakes, but nobody here really rides with those anymore, so, with some input from Jay's, they'll use standard reach brakes, which means...about 56mm reach, about like the 'bouillet. TUBING: The goal is a clubbie bike, so it's going to be clubbie light, and it should, ideally, be ridding by somebody who is, if not clubbie light, at least knows how to ride light. A Nureyev-like 225-pounder who lifts over bumps and veers around pothholes and rides 32mm tires at 85psi rides lighter than a Nagurski-like 150-pounder who rides 23mm tires at 115psi and hits everything with a stiff body and locked arms. So, it's hard to give this bike a weight limit. I should point out that you aren't buying an engine with this bike; you're supplying the engine, and it's good to somewhat match the engine's weight with the frame's weight. OK: Up to 57cm, the main tube butts are 0.65, with 0.4bellies. Bigger than that, 0.8 butts with 0.6bellies. It's superstrong heat-treated steel, so strength isn't much of an issue. Flex is more of an issue, but nobody really anymore believes that flexless frames are the goal (I never have). A more rigid frame matters if you're toting weight, but not as much if you aren't, and as we introduce this as a superlight clubbie-bike, its flex-under-a-touring-load shouldn't matter. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Tubesets: Rambouillet v Roadeo
Does this mean that a Roadeo has at least an extra half a pound of overly stout tubing? Or does the weight savings on the Sachs frames come from other things? I mean, all those baroque touches on Riv lugs must weigh something, right? ;) a sachs cx frame weighs about 3.5 lbs. i get to see a lot of his cx bikes in action and they are ridden *hard.* riding tubies at 30psi helps to soften things up a bit and take the edge off the rough stuff - but still, i think it's proof that a high quality lightweight steel bike need not be relegated to paved roads/smoothish surfaces. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Atlantis Rondo.
Looks great! How long is that stem? Dustin From: muckum toddjeffr...@sbcglobal.net Reply-To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Date: Wed, 3 Mar 2010 16:10:46 -0800 (PST) To: RBW Owners Bunch rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Subject: [RBW] Atlantis Rondo. Wanted to share a few recent tweeks to the Atlantis. http://www.flickr.com/photos/24971...@n06/sets/72157623425544101/ Anybody doing Solvang Century? See you there. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Riv-Related Double Century
Well, I made it into one of your pics even if we didn't get the chance to meet. You must have been far ahead of us slowpokes! Dustin From: Eric Norris campyonly...@me.com Reply-To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Date: Tue, 23 Feb 2010 09:27:24 -0800 To: Riv Owners List rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Subject: [RBW] Riv-Related Double Century My Riv Road and I rode the Camino Real Double Century together this past weekend. Except for getting the bike filthy in a muddy underpass, it was a great ride. Rain was predicted, but the storm passed over the night before the ride and we only had to deal with wet roads. Photos are here: http://www.flickr.com/photos/35176...@n03/sets/72157623477133944/ --Eric www.campyonly.com www.wheelsnorth.org -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: IGH
The best thing about my Rohloff is that it never leaks, never requires any maintenance, right? To think of all the time I could be spending fussing with derailleurs if I didn't have to keep sending my Rohloff back for repair. Dustin From: Esteban proto...@gmail.com Reply-To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Date: Thu, 18 Feb 2010 10:07:27 -0800 (PST) To: RBW Owners Bunch rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Subject: [RBW] Re: IGH I agree with Grant. I think that if you're going for simplicity, 1x9 is the way to go. My Kogswell had that before I changed it out for a Nexus redline by default (my wife wanted touring gearing after all on her bike). I preferred the 1x9 - the steps were more even, lighter, etc. I like the IGH only because its different from my other bikes, and fully loaded (70lbs groceries + child), its nice to not think ahead about shifting down as I approach a stop. This being said, I liked this quote: If I were riding my bike to the Birmingham coal mines every day and I got home too bushed to brush my teeth, I'd go for an internal gear and hope the gear-chain dealybob didn't slip and leave me spinning air I've had a long love affair with the Birtish 3-speed. They're like sliding around on a heavy, elegant steel sled. Esteban San Diego, Calif. On Feb 18, 9:17 am, Ray Shine r.sh...@sbcglobal.net wrote: Agree with Seth mostly, but my Alfine instructions were to place gear in 4th at the red line on the shift indicated. All else as he said. I've never had any trouble with the hub. Sent From My iPhone On Feb 18, 2010, at 9:50 AM, Seth Vidal skvi...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Feb 18, 2010 at 11:46 AM, JoelMatthews joelmatth...@mac.com wrote: Jim: What is the process for changing an Alfine equipped wheel? When I had the Rohloff equipped bike changing the wheels was the least of my problems. The cables attached to the hub throug some sort of easy off device. With OEM Rohloff drop outs anyway, removing the wheel from that point on was not any more difficult than removing a traditional hub and cassette wheel. On the other hand, what should have been simple issues given the engineering of the hub - ie seals that worked and finding Rohloff approved oil - turned into such a hassle I wound up getting rid of the blasted bike. And it was a real beauty. on the nexus redline hubs I have used the process was: - set the grip shift into 1st - pull the little bolt fixer-do-flochy to disconnect it from the rear hub bracket - take the wheel out - change tire - put wheel back in - put chain back on cog - reconnect the bolt fixer do-flochy - shift things to make sure the magic lines are aligned on the hub - bolt stuff tight after tensioning the chain - ride off. maybe there's a step I'm missing b/c it never took me much time to do it. -sv -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: IGH
I think Rohloff's claim is that getting the seals right would produce an unacceptable amount of drag. Whether that's true or not, I'd just settle for a hub that only seeped but did not bleed oil. They are now replacing all of the internals of my hub, so let's hope I have better luck this time. From: JoelMatthews joelmatth...@mac.com Reply-To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Date: Thu, 18 Feb 2010 10:51:54 -0800 (PST) To: RBW Owners Bunch rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Subject: [RBW] Re: IGH The best thing about my Rohloff is that it never leaks, never requires any maintenance, right? To think of all the time I could be spending fussing with derailleurs if I didn't have to keep sending my Rohloff back for repair. My experience as well. It almost seems as though the brilliant engineers are all clamoring to work on the gearing and no one is interested in the journeyman stuff like getting seals right. And to Jim's point, the more I used the Rohloff, the less I found any real advantage over a der system. However, I do wonder whether the forthcoming Alfine 11 will have the easier Rohloff mount/dismount connection. On Feb 18, 12:10 pm, Dustin Sharp dsh...@runbox.com wrote: The best thing about my Rohloff is that it never leaks, never requires any maintenance, right? To think of all the time I could be spending fussing with derailleurs if I didn't have to keep sending my Rohloff back for repair. Dustin From: Esteban proto...@gmail.com Reply-To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Date: Thu, 18 Feb 2010 10:07:27 -0800 (PST) To: RBW Owners Bunch rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Subject: [RBW] Re: IGH I agree with Grant. I think that if you're going for simplicity, 1x9 is the way to go. My Kogswell had that before I changed it out for a Nexus redline by default (my wife wanted touring gearing after all on her bike). I preferred the 1x9 - the steps were more even, lighter, etc. I like the IGH only because its different from my other bikes, and fully loaded (70lbs groceries + child), its nice to not think ahead about shifting down as I approach a stop. This being said, I liked this quote: If I were riding my bike to the Birmingham coal mines every day and I got home too bushed to brush my teeth, I'd go for an internal gear and hope the gear-chain dealybob didn't slip and leave me spinning air I've had a long love affair with the Birtish 3-speed. They're like sliding around on a heavy, elegant steel sled. Esteban San Diego, Calif. On Feb 18, 9:17 am, Ray Shine r.sh...@sbcglobal.net wrote: Agree with Seth mostly, but my Alfine instructions were to place gear in 4th at the red line on the shift indicated. All else as he said. I've never had any trouble with the hub. Sent From My iPhone On Feb 18, 2010, at 9:50 AM, Seth Vidal skvi...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Feb 18, 2010 at 11:46 AM, JoelMatthews joelmatth...@mac.com wrote: Jim: What is the process for changing an Alfine equipped wheel? When I had the Rohloff equipped bike changing the wheels was the least of my problems. The cables attached to the hub throug some sort of easy off device. With OEM Rohloff drop outs anyway, removing the wheel from that point on was not any more difficult than removing a traditional hub and cassette wheel. On the other hand, what should have been simple issues given the engineering of the hub - ie seals that worked and finding Rohloff approved oil - turned into such a hassle I wound up getting rid of the blasted bike. And it was a real beauty. on the nexus redline hubs I have used the process was: - set the grip shift into 1st - pull the little bolt fixer-do-flochy to disconnect it from the rear hub bracket - take the wheel out - change tire - put wheel back in - put chain back on cog - reconnect the bolt fixer do-flochy - shift things to make sure the magic lines are aligned on the hub - bolt stuff tight after tensioning the chain - ride off. maybe there's a step I'm missing b/c it never took me much time to do it. -sv -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group
Re: [RBW] Various questions about the Sam Hillborne
Bork! Does that count? All comments welcome if they are intelligent and well articulated. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: A virtual sales brochure, and special offer
Doug Van Cleve has a great disk fork by Tony Pereira with a nice double crown and non-industrial looking curve to it: http://www.serotta.com/forum/showthread.php?t=42545highlight=pereira (sorry, you need to be a forum member to see the pic). From: CycloFiend cyclofi...@earthlink.net Reply-To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Date: Wed, 10 Feb 2010 10:48:37 -0800 To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [RBW] Re: A virtual sales brochure, and special offer on 2/10/10 6:18 AM, Leslie at leslie.bri...@gmail.com wrote: Okay, maybe a non-Rivish thought, but, since the Hunqa could be considered a 29er, what about using disc brakes? (Have to admit, I know little about 'em, seems like it just complicates things more than they need to be, but, if it'd function well.) One of the things you have to do with full disc brakes is to beef up the fork to handle some very different and specific stresses. I don't think I've seen any viable disc-specific forks which aren't pretty industrial. On the other end, whenever I see a gorgeous frame with all all the necessary dangly bits for a disc on the left rear dropout, it just undoes it for me. There is a great deal of info about disc brakes out there, including front wheel ejection issues, how it changes wheelbuilding requirements and the applications in which is makes some sense. - Jim -- Jim Edgar cyclofi...@earthlink.net Cyclofiend Bicycle Photo Galleries - http://www.cyclofiend.com Current Classics - Cross Bikes Singlespeed - Working Bikes Get your photos posted: http://www.cyclofiend.com/guidelines Then I sat up, wiped the water out of my eyes, and looked at my bike, and just like that I knew it was dead -- Robert McCammon, Boy's Life -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Mount Diablo Name Change?
Aren't the two synonymous anyway? From: Aaron Thomas aaron.a.tho...@gmail.com Reply-To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Date: Wed, 10 Feb 2010 13:18:38 -0800 (PST) To: RBW Owners Bunch rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Subject: [RBW] Re: Mount Diablo Name Change? There is now a Facebook group dedicated to opposing the name change: http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=272957899462 On Feb 1, 6:04 pm, cyclotourist cyclotour...@gmail.com wrote: Isn't belief in The Devil integral for belief in God? I think the East Bay Atheist society could get behind the name change. On Mon, Feb 1, 2010 at 4:49 PM, Big Paulie pauldgr...@yahoo.com wrote: Saw an article in a local newspaper that Mount Diablo might have a name change to Mount Ronald Reagan... http://www.insidebayarea.com/columns/ci_14296818 This might spin off an entirely different vein of Rivendell bike names, wouldn't you think? :) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comrbw-owners-bunch%2Bunsubscribe @googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- Cheers, David Redlands, CA Bicycling is a big part of the future. It has to be. There is something wrong with a society that drives a car to workout in a gym. ~Bill Nye, scientist guy -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] A virtual sales brochure, and special offer
Very few double top tubes have ever worked for me aesthetically. Now, maybe it¹s just because it¹s a big frame or something, but the big Bombadil in the Hunqa flyer is just awkward looking. Something about the sloping toptube, double toptube and jacked up stem. I guess that one really deserves the name hunqapillar because it¹s a big shambling beast of a bike. Don McClung is one of the only builders I have seen who does beautiful double top tube bikes: http://www.flickr.com/photos/awalker/10829494/ Anyway, love the Hunqa name and functionality, but not sold on the looks of the big ones. Also not sold on the need for a double top tube. That's OK though as I already own an overweight, overbuilt all-rounder touring rough stuff machine. Dustin From: Bill Connell bconn...@gmail.com Reply-To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Date: Tue, 9 Feb 2010 16:39:55 -0600 To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [RBW] A virtual sales brochure, and special offer If I were at all in a position to get a new bike this year it would almost certainly be a Hunq. The only thing that gives me any pause about it is the double top tube. I have no problem at all with it aesthetically, but I'd ride it as a trail/gravel bike an I know i'd periodically need to carry the bike for a log bridge or stair climb or something. It doesn't seem easily shoulderable with the extra frame tube there. Bill Connell St. Paul, MN On Tuesday, February 9, 2010, EricP ericpl...@aol.com wrote: This new model really piques the interest. Seriously (and I mean actual, really, serious) thinking of selling my Atlantis to facilitate a Hunqa. Plus, could move up a couple of sizes. (Atlantis 56. New Hunqa would be 58.) A couple of years ago 700x60 tires weren't around. Hence my Atlantis. But with this, it gets very, very tempting. Might even be tempted to go skinny and ride Marathon Supreme 700x50. Eric Platt St. Paul, MN -- Bill Connell St. Paul, MN -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] SFR Two Rock/Valley Ford 200K Ride Report
If I drive up to ride it can I use it as an excuse to order an Ebisu like Esteban? I'll looking for a good excuse. Dustin San Diego, Calif. From: nathan spindel nath...@gmail.com Reply-To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Date: Mon, 8 Feb 2010 14:18:10 -0800 To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [RBW] SFR Two Rock/Valley Ford 200K Ride Report Nice report, Esteban. It was a great ride, and it was nice to pedal along with other first time randonneurs! :) I'm glad you took photos, since I couldn't find my camera that morning while busily packing my boxy bag full of food and rushing off to the bridge in the early morning darkness. Who's up for the Russian River 300K besides Will and me? :) -nathan On Mon, Feb 8, 2010 at 11:02 AM, Esteban proto...@gmail.com wrote: I was lucky enough to ride with some friends on the 200K on Saturday. Drove from San Diego... and I might just have to do it again. There were a lot of sensible, purpose-built bikes on the ride: Rivendells, Kogswells, Ebisus, Pelicans, and a variety of customs along with the typical MCRBs. I absolutely enjoyed the ride, and somehow, felt just great the whole time. Photos here: http://www.flickr.com/photos/25671...@n02/sets/72157623251904639/ Write-up: http://veloflaneur.wordpress.com/2010/02/08/my-first-brevet/ Regards, Esteban San Diego, Calif. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] CXP33s with Jack Browns or similar
I've run Nanoraptors (29er tire) on MA3s with no problems. Not ideal, but it works. From: CycloFiend cyclofi...@earthlink.net Reply-To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Date: Fri, 05 Feb 2010 10:29:02 -0800 To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [RBW] CXP33s with Jack Browns or similar on 2/5/10 5:18 AM, LouisvillePatrick at flightofthebomba...@gmail.com wrote: I'm wondering if anyone has had problems running Jack Browns or simlar sized tires (30+mm) on 19mm wide rims, like my CXP33s. I've ridden 50s on my Dyads for years with no problems at all. I see on the Mavic site that the rim is recommended for 23-28mm tires. And when I talk to friends (who may or may not be more in the racing tradition) they always advise, you don't want to run anything more than a 28 on that Mavic rim. But I want me something a little more plump. Thoughts and real experiences? Hilsen has my CX wheelset on it, which is a CXP22 and a CXP33. (The original wheelset is a Velocity.) The Quickbeam has MA3 front and rear. No problems running Jack Browns under a wide variety of riding conditions. - J -- Jim Edgar cyclofi...@earthlink.net Cyclofiend Bicycle Photo Galleries - http://www.cyclofiend.com Current Classics - Cross Bikes Singlespeed - Working Bikes Your Photos are needed! - Send them here - http://www.cyclofiend.com/guidelines -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] what he heck is 80 For Haiti?
Just wanted add my 2 cents: If you can make it to this ride, you really really really outta. Yes, really. The cause is noble. And the course is also just fantastic. Some of the best country road riding you¹ll find anywhere. And as Grant mentioned, Chris puts on a great event. He¹s also trying to promote the kind of riding for which so many of the Riv models are made in heaven: go anywhere, do anything mixed surface country rambles. Cheers to Riv for giving the 80 4 Haiti ride a nudge. Now it¹s time for all who can to get out there and fly the Riv colors the day of the ride! Esteban and I will be pre-riding the course with a little extra credit this Saturday. There¹s no way you can get sick of the riding in this area. Best, Dustin From: Grant Petersen gr...@rivbike.com Reply-To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Date: Fri, 29 Jan 2010 09:33:46 -0800 To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Subject: [RBW] what he heck is 80 For Haiti? Sorry--- I read a reference to it--from Aaron-- and I thought there'd been some discussion I'd missed, and everybody knew. Here's the link: http://www.adventurecorps.com/80/index.html -- Grant Rivendell Bicycle Works www.rivbike.com http://www.rivbike.com 925 933 7304 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] SoCal Rivendell Riders ( Friends) Ride - Feb 21
Not sure if you all get to call these SoCal anymore since they all seem to be in the LA area. Maybe LaCal Riv Riders and Friends? Dustin There's better riding in San Diego Anyway Sharp From: Seth seth...@gmail.com Reply-To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Date: Thu, 28 Jan 2010 09:37:11 -0800 (PST) To: RBW Owners Bunch rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Subject: [RBW] SoCal Rivendell Riders ( Friends) Ride - Feb 21 Hi All, SoCal Rivendell Riders ( Friends) is planning a ride on February 21. The route will be a scenic loop from Los Angeles to Long Beach and back. The return leg will be on the LA River bike path. To join the discussion as the details are finalized, check out: http://www.flickr.com/groups/socal_rivendell_bicycle_appreciation_society/disc uss/72157623162236373/ Seth Ely -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: SoCal Rivendell Riders ( Friends) Ride - Feb 21
This is true, but as I told Seth in a private message, if I actually took any initiative in life, what would I have to complain about? :) But yes, we need to get you all down to San Diego's east county for some epic mixed surface riding. And I need to suck it up and drive up to LA, after the Death Valley Double training that is. Dustin From: Esteban proto...@gmail.com Reply-To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Date: Thu, 28 Jan 2010 11:28:02 -0800 (PST) To: RBW Owners Bunch rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Subject: [RBW] Re: SoCal Rivendell Riders ( Friends) Ride - Feb 21 Yea, we've got to get it together and propose some routes. We've got them, just need to get it together. We're busy obsessing about our diet and training for the Death Valley Double March 6. I may still do 80 for Haiti... and I *may* make it up to SF for the Two Rock/Valley Ford 200K next week. -esteban Indeed, lovely San Diego, Calif. On Jan 28, 10:52 am, Aaron Thomas aaron.a.tho...@gmail.com wrote: Hey, I proposed that we do the 80 for Haiti in San Diego, but that idea met with a resounding thud. Can't say that this LA denizen didn't try... Aaron On Jan 28, 10:14 am, Dustin Sharp dsh...@runbox.com wrote: Not sure if you all get to call these SoCal anymore since they all seem to be in the LA area. Maybe LaCal Riv Riders and Friends? Dustin There's better riding in San Diego Anyway Sharp From: Seth seth...@gmail.com Reply-To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Date: Thu, 28 Jan 2010 09:37:11 -0800 (PST) To: RBW Owners Bunch rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Subject: [RBW] SoCal Rivendell Riders ( Friends) Ride - Feb 21 Hi All, SoCal Rivendell Riders ( Friends) is planning a ride on February 21. The route will be a scenic loop from Los Angeles to Long Beach and back. The return leg will be on the LA River bike path. To join the discussion as the details are finalized, check out: http://www.flickr.com/groups/socal_rivendell_bicycle_appreciation_soc... uss/72157623162236373/ Seth Ely -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Cycles of Change/ Rivendell ride.
The Bombadil might be a good candidate for Jeff Jones' fat front idea, running a 29er tire in the rear, and endomorph in front, if you had the right fork built to make it work. I think that is one of the only ways I might enjoy a full rigid in the real gnarly rough stuff anymore! On 1/19/10 6:02 AM, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery thill@gmail.com wrote: I believe Grant mentioned his Pugsley in a previous Reader. You wanna talk about supple tires! I run my 26x3.7 Endomorph 3-18 psi. I glued one of the tire beads to the rim so the tire won't come off during hard braking or cornering. Those fancy 650B tires are harsh by comparison! On Jan 19, 7:45 am, jpp paste...@notes.udayton.edu wrote: Looks like fun. I have to ask, in the picture of your friend on the mini bike with Grant riding behind him. Is grant riding a drop bar surly pugsley? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Batten Down, California (particularly NorCals) Coming At us!
I tease Esteban del Rio that fenders in SoCal are little more than a form of foppery. Looks like he may have the last laugh in the coming weeks. For the time being though, I am safe in Dakar, Senegal, where harmattan winds from the Sahara are more of a problem than rain this time of year. On 1/17/10 9:55 AM, Steve Palincsar palin...@his.com wrote: On Sun, 2010-01-17 at 09:14 -0800, Dustin Sharp wrote: Does this mean I have to finally put fenders on? :) You mean you've been losing vital style points all this time? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Batten Down, California (particularly NorCals) Coming At us!
A little sketchy. Biking in Burkina Faso was safe and easy given the number of bikes on the road. Here it's sauve qui peut. On 1/17/10 10:17 AM, Steve Palincsar palin...@his.com wrote: On Sun, 2010-01-17 at 10:00 -0800, Dustin Sharp wrote: I tease Esteban del Rio that fenders in SoCal are little more than a form of foppery. Looks like he may have the last laugh in the coming weeks. For the time being though, I am safe in Dakar, Senegal, where harmattan winds from the Sahara are more of a problem than rain this time of year. How's the riding in Dakar? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Palms Springs, CA Area Riding?
Gotta say, the best riding around Palm Springs requires fat tires and (hopefully) front suspension (at least): http://www.mountainbikebill.com/PalmCanyon.htm You could try it on a Bombadil, but I don't think you'd try it again on a Bombadil. On 1/16/10 2:54 PM, Gary g...@worldcyclotour.com wrote: The Tour De Palm Springs will be going on Feb 12-13th. Weather is usually brisk in the morning and warm in the day 60+ degrees or so. I've done this one a bunch. You may be able to download a course route online. Real fun ride if you decide to participate. If not, there are tons of interesting rides out there. Gary baufl.org On Jan 16, 1:40 pm, Ken Yokanovich reflector.collec...@gmail.com wrote: It looks like I will be able to spend a few days with the family in Palm Springs during the second week in February. Thinking of bringing along my Atlantis so that I can get out and ride. Looking at the map, it looks like San Jacinto State Park could make for a fantastic ride. I, cannot tell from the maps if there is any way to make for a loop through Banning and back to Palm Springs. (I hate out and back rides.) Anyone have any experience with the area that might be able to provide some must-see or should ride routes? I will ride just about any type of road condition and love gravel and off road stuff too. Really, the more tortuous the route, perhaps the better? Am I a sadist... No, but I am trying to get in condition for a really STUPID bike ride at the end of April. Being from MN, any weather that doesn't involve studded tires and multiple layers of wool sounds wonderful. Distance wise, if the weather is above 40, I wouldn't mind a little longer routes, should be good for 100+ miles at a crack. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] SOMA Riv. Prototyp pics
Not sure if I missed it in an earlier post, but anyone know why Riv would help SOMA on a new frame that essentially hits the same price-point as Riv¹s new Taiwan-made frames? Not that I¹m against collaboration, just trying to understand the business rationale, and wondering how many $1000 lugged country bikes the market will bear (luckily, that number seems to be growing). Dustin On 1/9/10 9:24 AM, James Dinneen jfxdinn...@yahoo.com wrote: Thanks for the pictures. Do we have any explanation of the bikes intended purpose (fast road, touring, all round country bike)? Jim D. Massachusetts --- On Sat, 1/9/10, CycloFiend cyclofi...@earthlink.net wrote: From: CycloFiend cyclofi...@earthlink.net Subject: Re: [RBW] SOMA Riv. Prototyp pics To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Date: Saturday, January 9, 2010, 10:19 AM on 1/9/10 2:21 AM, Jason at jasonshaef...@gmail.com /mc/compose?to=jasonshaef...@gmail.com wrote: I was at RivHQ on Friday and the prototype frame was laying around. They said they didn't mind pictures, so here they are: http://tinyurl.com/yfxzvs9 This is a prototype frame, so it may be changing. They said the thinking right now is a frame in the $1,000 range, an upward sloping top tube, so fewer sizes (or at least that's what I heard, it was early). Thanks for sharing those here. That's an interesting looking frame - good practical dropouts with fender and rack bosses, 2 way attachment options at the seatstay bridge, good hardy braze-ons for the upper rack mount, downtube shifter bosses It will be interesting to see how it comes together. - Jim -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] The Noodle
If they had the balls to call it The Noodle and sold it with Noodle bars, I'd buy one too! They could have a pretty cool logo with a spaghetti noodle running through the letters too. Grant was country was country wasn't cool with the 650B stuff, so maybe he'll one day take up the banner of Non-OS tubing? For my part, I can't say I prefer it as I don't have an OS and non-OS bike to ride side by side. Dustin On 1/9/10 10:23 AM, rswat...@me.com rswat...@me.com wrote: So... what's the tubing on this baby? Thin-n-flexy or fat-n-stiff? If Riv made a nice, noodly non-OS frame, I'd be very tempted. Ryan On Jan 9, 2010, at 10:51, RoadieRyan rya...@hotmail.com wrote: Jason Thanks for these pics I was eagerly awaiting more after that first teaser and you have delivered! It will be interesting to see how this frame compares to the SamH and stanyan. More of a low cost Roadeo? 650b? Love the color and the lugs, I agree with surf that a creamish headtube to set off the lugs would look great. BTW you can do this on the SamH it just costs you the $300 custom paint charge. Maybe by the time I have $1000 this frame will be available ;-) I am also glad to see two companies whose products I really like working together On Jan 9, 2:21 am, Jason jasonshaef...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all, I was at RivHQ on Friday and the prototype frame was laying around. They said they didn't mind pictures, so here they are: http://tinyurl.com/yfxzvs9 This is a prototype frame, so it may be changing. They said the thinking right now is a frame in the $1,000 range, an upward sloping top tube, so fewer sizes (or at least that's what I heard, it was early). Hope you all enjoy these, and have a wonderful weekend. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners- bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en . -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Correct Bombadil size...
Stand-over clearance issues aside, the problem I've seen with sticking too closely with some of Riv's sizing recommendations is that it can put me on a bike with a longer top tube than I'd like. Sure, the bike fits by using a shorter stem, but weight distribution then becomes an issue. All FWIW, ATMO, etc, etc. From: Doug Peterson dougpn...@cox.net Reply-To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Date: Fri, 18 Dec 2009 09:39:20 -0800 (PST) To: RBW Owners Bunch rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Subject: [RBW] Re: Correct Bombadil size... Rene: After all the data points regarding the bigger size, here's one vote for going smaller. I understand Riv's sizing system and philosophy, but chose to go a size down from their recommendation on my Atlantis (58 cm vs 61 cm). Coming up on 7 happy years of riding, I've never given it a second thought. There's actually some overlap on PBHs and frame sizes. If possible, see if they have a 56 cm you can try on for size before going to the effort of completely changing. Bikes can always be made a bit larger (within reason!) but they are tough to shrink. dougP On Dec 17, 9:08 pm, Rene Sterental orthie...@gmail.com wrote: My 60cm Bombadil is finally finished (had too much work and family related stuff these last two weeks). I will post pictures tomorrow. However, as soon as I straddled it while building it, I realized I had significantly less standover clearance than I do on my 61cm Homer. I can still lift both wheels what appears to be around 1 inch, haven't really measured, but when I stand over the bike with both feet on the ground, I can feel the top tube way up there. The bike is currently built with Specialized El Capitan Control 2.2 front/2.0 rear tires for a full MTB experience. Since it was raining during the weekend and I was swamped with work and family, I was only able to take it out for a ride on Tuesday's commute to work via bike and Caltrain. I rode it for a total of around 8 miles split up in four legs. I'll post more details when I have more time, but my concerns with the standover clearance persisted, so I e-mailed Mark @ Rivendell and spoke with Keven today. They both feel that based on my measured PBH, the 60cm Bombadil frame is the right size, but if I feel it's too big, they will set me up with a new 56cm frame. It's great to know that they will stand by me and take care of my in this situation. Today I commuted with the Homer, and even though barely a month and a half ago it seemed like a huge frame (my conversion to the Rivendell fit philosophy), compared to the Bombadil I felt I had lots of clearance and of course, they both handle different. I'm taking the Bombadil to Rivendell tomorrow so Mark and Keven can check my fit and together, we can decide if it is indeed the right size for me, or if I'll fit best on the 56cm. Standover height on the Bombadil 60 is about 2 cm higher than on the Homer 61. Everyone agrees that you probably need a little more clearance on a mountain bike than on a road bike, but what is really the minimum clearance? Anyway, I'll update the group on the decision we take tomorrow and will submit photos of the complete bike. Going to a 56 frame will mean another wait for it to be painted (minor annoyance), but also a new wheelset from Rich, new tires, and no exchanging wheels between the Homer and the Bombadil. What is the feeling regarding standover clearance and minimum clearance? René PS.- The fender question is now on hold until the frame size issue is cleared... -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Correct Bombadil size...
This is where I think the Riv sizing has gotten too simplistic. The marketing for the new compact frames has been that it allows the same frame to fit more riders because they will accommodate a wider range of PBHs, while still keeping the bars up high. BUT . . . It also means you are putting more riders on the same size top-tube, requiring a greater variety in stem lengths to make the bike fit. Most of the time, this probably works well enough. But it also funks up front-rear weight balance for some sets ups, which is important to both road and mountain biking. From: newenglandbike matthiasbe...@gmail.com Reply-To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Date: Fri, 18 Dec 2009 10:05:56 -0800 (PST) To: RBW Owners Bunch rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Subject: [RBW] Re: Correct Bombadil size... I think you'll most likely be fine on either size since, as a previous post points out, the Bombadil is designed to fit a wide range of PBHs. Also since it's a mountain bike, it's optimized to work well with something like dirt drop (or similar stem) you won't really have an issue getting the bars up high.I think it really depends on how your going to use it.If you're really going to be doing low- speed navigating over rocks and roots and single-track type stuff, maybe the extra clearance would be good to have, since in my experience that's the only time you might need to put a foot, or both feet, down. But, if you can stand over the 60cm frame with decent clearance, that shouldn't be a problem for that size either. One way to think about it is this: the slope of the TT on the Bombadil results in the HT being about 5 or 6 cm taller than it would be on an AHH of the same size- so a 56 Bombadil has a stem 'launching point' of a 61cm AHH, and a 60cm Bombadil gives you a HT launch point similar to that of a 65cm AHH. As far as sizing for comfort (or higher bar position), I think it's more important on frames with more horizontal top-tubes to choose a bike with close to 'zero standover' clearance. To do that on a frame with an upsloping tt *really* ensures that the bars can be that much higher than the saddle. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Roadeo Prelim Report
Beautiful bike. If they had an option for a low-trail fork and front rack mounts for a HB bag, I'd order one tomorrow. (speaking of BQ on the brain) Hope you have many many happy miles together! Cheers, Dustin From: rperks perks@gmail.com Reply-To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Date: Mon, 7 Dec 2009 11:27:34 -0800 (PST) To: RBW Owners Bunch rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Subject: [RBW] Roadeo Prelim Report The honeymoon was perfect, and made it home in time to recover, pull a full afternoon build up, and a Sunday shakedown ride before the rains and work set in for the week. Picture here: http://www.flickr.com/photos/36302...@n08/4166372759/in/set-72157622875811028/ It is a mix of old, new and NOS components. I shot around town for about an hour, threw in some hills for good measure. All I can say now is WOW. My basis of comparison is my Rawland dsogun, a 1974 Eisentraut Model A and a previously owned CrossCheck. The thing is fast, easy and comfortable. I hit the build almost spot on right out of the gate. The Jack Browns are like pillows compared to my Roughy Toughies I was a bit nervous after looking at the oversized tubes and too much Bicycle Quarterly/planing on the mind, but this thing is like a finely tuned spring. I can not wait to get it up on some of my regular rides up in the hills. In summary, this is the best roadbike I could ever imagine owning, ever. Details to follow later this week. Rob -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: status of Atlantis?
One question I had is why not just have Waterford make them? Seems they are able to do the Rodeos and AHH @ $2000. Of course, if they can get a great pricepoint in Taiwan, that probably makes more business sense. Once you hit the $2000 mark for me, I start thinking I might as well pay a bit more and go custom with a smaller US builder. Someday I am sure I will regret not springing for one of the last Japanese Atlantii, but at $2300---$2500+ if I want my own color--it's hard to justify right now given the other bikes I already own. Dustin From: Doug Peterson dougpn...@cox.net Reply-To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Date: Mon, 30 Nov 2009 10:55:04 -0800 (PST) To: RBW Owners Bunch rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Subject: [RBW] Re: status of Atlantis? Grant's e-mail is clear that there will be a replacement for the Atlantis but ..more upslope on the TT fewer sizes. If most riders can be accomodated with fewer frame sizes, it's a sensible business decision, allowing larger production runs to spread out tooling set- up costs. This will be an on-going struggle for US importers as long as the dollar continues its downward drift. dougP On Nov 29, 11:29 pm, happyriding happyrid...@yahoo.com wrote: Hi, Can someone give me a run down on the status of the Atlantis? Is Rivendell going to make size 68 cm frames again? Thanks. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Roadeo Teaser
I'd see that as a tough call, but then again maybe that's why I am in the doghouse so often. From: JoelMatthews joelmatth...@mac.com Reply-To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Date: Wed, 25 Nov 2009 12:30:46 -0800 (PST) To: RBW Owners Bunch rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Subject: [RBW] Re: Roadeo Teaser Honeymoon before bike build!?! Man, where are your priorities? ;) Hope you have a great time. Look forward to seeing pics when you get back. On Nov 25, 1:56 pm, rperks perks@gmail.com wrote: I have been posting here and there, but mostly lurking. Santa's Brown truck came early this year, and apparently I was a good boy! Here are some teaser shots:http://www.flickr.com/photos/36302...@n08/sets/72157622875811028/ Size 63 in the Raw clear powder coat. I can now be part of the Owner's bunch with more than stuff from the odds and ends pages. I can say without a doubt that this is the most beautiful frame I have ever owned. It has been a crazy wonderful week, Married my best friend, bike comes early, and off on a family weekend with the Honeymoon to follow. Back in 10 days to take some better pictures and document the build, until then enjoy the teaser shots, have a safe Holiday and get some saddle time. Rob -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Internal Hub Efficiency: What the Experts Say
The feel issue is definitely a big issue with the Rohloff in certain gears. You can feel static in the pedals as it grinds in gear 7, for example. Hear it too. Makes you understand why some riders used to call them pepper grinders and gives you the sensation of pedaling through water. In terms of real world time, I'm as fast in my commutes on my Rohloff-equipped bike as with my derailleur-equipped one. If it weren't for my computer, I might not believe it. From: Steve Palincsar palin...@his.com Reply-To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Date: Thu, 19 Nov 2009 12:24:02 -0500 To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [RBW] Re: Internal Hub Efficiency: What the Experts Say On Thu, 2009-11-19 at 07:26 -0800, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery wrote: Mechanical inefficiency of the drivetrain is not the only thing that makes a cyclist slower. Let's say, for example, that 90% of the total inefficiency comes from tire rolling resistance and aerodynamics, and 10% comes from the mechanical friction and slop in the drivetrain. Then the total effect of a 6% drop in mechanical efficiency would translate to something like 10% of a 6% drop in speed (i.e. 0.6%). Approximately. My numbers are for illustrative purposes only, not based on actual measurements of inefficiency. But I think the big issue with IG hubs isn't the actual inefficiency -- it's well known that 11T and 12T sprockets are extremely inefficient, yet nobody complains about their inefficiency vs larger ones -- it's the feel, that slushy, squishy feeling that you're putting power in but it isn't coming out. A derailleur drive train in any gear feels solid under your pedal as you apply power, but 1st gear in a Sturmey AW (and that is, after all, what most people have in their experience bank when you speak of internal geared hubs) doesn't. Also the gear change in a derailleur system, even non-indexed, once it stops clacking, feels positive compared to the gear change on an AW, which somehow does not. People call that inefficiency, even though nobody's measuring power in vs power out. It's that friction box feeling. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=.
Re: [RBW] Re: 8-Speed Quickbeam
Yes, I don't know what is at the root of the dispute between Rohloff and their former US distributor, but it is annoying. Their former distributor did do a warranty repair for me recently (leaking oil), but I had to wait several months until they had the right parts. And I think that was an exception since they had replaced the seals once before and probably felt bad for me. So at this point, I'm not sure what the deal will be with warranty repairs: i.e., whether things will have to go back to Germany or what. If you want to pay to have someone work on it, Cyclemonkey (the shop of the former distributor) knows what they are doing. From: JoelMatthews joelmatth...@mac.com Reply-To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Date: Wed, 18 Nov 2009 08:56:28 -0800 (PST) To: RBW Owners Bunch rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Subject: [RBW] Re: 8-Speed Quickbeam Perhaps this is no longer the case. Around June or so my LBS learned that Rohloff and its U.S. distributor had parted ways. As a result, they were unable to source the Rohloff specified oil and seals I needed after mine started leaking. I wound up giving the rather expensive Oswald custom built around the Rohloff to one of the LBS mechanics. Life is too short to mess with poorly supported components. On Nov 18, 10:40 am, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery thill@gmail.com wrote: We have set up 2 or 3 Rohloffs. They seem to be very durable. I have not yet had to do any significant service to the Rohloffs we've sold and set up. On Nov 18, 10:17 am, Ray Shine r.sh...@sbcglobal.net wrote: --- On Wed, 11/18/09, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery thill@gmail.com wrote: The customer service tech suggested that the hub was being over-torqued and told me that IGHs were for cruisers and other low-torque applications. Good for grandma to ride to church on Sundays, but not adequate for a vigorous cycler, apparently. Jim -- That's interesting that he made such a comment. That didn't happen to be a certain high-end German manufacturer did it? The reason I ask is that -- as I spoke about a few posts back-- I toured cross Nevada, Utah, Colo Rockies with a guy who rode a Thorn fitted with a Rohloff 14-speed. I have to tell you, that hub appeared bulletproof to me. David was a real masher, too, having been a mountain biker all his cycling life, and the hub never held him back. David is from England, and those hubs are more common over there, so perhaps he has a knack for the proper riding with an internal. Anyway, I was just curious if you have had any experience with the Rohloff brand. I know they are very pricey, but, as I said, appear to be quite long-lasting. Ray- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=.
[RBW] Re: Dandy Time for Dandy Cyclists
Tweed = 3 speed Beret and mime face paint = protovelo From: Esteban proto...@gmail.com Reply-To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Date: Mon, 16 Nov 2009 12:19:56 -0800 (PST) To: RBW Owners Bunch rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Subject: [RBW] Re: Dandy Time for Dandy Cyclists I'm part of a group that's helping plan the San Diego ride. Hopefully it will be over-the-top fun. Can't decide wether to ride the francophilic Protovelo or my old Raleigh 3 speed. Esteban San Diego, Calif. On Nov 16, 11:26 am, EcoVelo ecoveloi...@gmail.com wrote: We attended a Tweed Ride in Sacramento recently. The ride leaders were on a pair of Quickbeams, with a number of other Rivs in attendance as well. http://www.ecovelo.info/2009/11/08/sacramento-tweed-ride/ Alan On Nov 16, 7:09 am, Bob linthi...@gmail.com wrote: Bodes well for Mr. Petersen's business: http://bit.ly/2r8us3 Bob --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: FS ActionTec Titanium Cogset 11-36
I agree, though compared to the almost $500 you can pay for a 2009 Campagnolo Super Record 11 Cassette, the ActionTec Cassettes almost seem like a bargain! Dustin From: Steve Palincsar palin...@his.com Reply-To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Date: Mon, 02 Nov 2009 14:29:35 -0500 To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Subject: [RBW] Re: FS ActionTec Titanium Cogset 11-36 On Mon, 2009-11-02 at 11:00 -0800, doug peterson wrote: Mitch: Thanks for the link. I was unaware of this source. I only wear out 15-17-19 cogs and it burns me to have to buy a complete cassette. With 8sp Shimano stuff getting more rare, I'll try Ti next time. But my god they are expensive! $177 for the cheapest, up to $280. That's just breathtaking. And, they all start with an 11. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: an imitation or just a coincidence?
I agree the color makes it look Atlantis like, but then again, Celeste/sea-foam whatever it is didn't exactly start with Rivendell. D From: Patrick in VT psh...@drm.com Reply-To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Date: Mon, 2 Nov 2009 13:26:47 -0800 (PST) To: RBW Owners Bunch rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Subject: [RBW] Re: an imitation or just a coincidence? hmm . ... framebuilder in austin, TX designs and offers a handbuilt frameset with choice of geometry/tubes depending on intended use - touring, sport (whatever that means) and cx - and names the bike after a texan hero. imitation or coincidence? not sure i'd use either of those words. unless sam houston and sam hillborne are distant cousins or something ;) --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: Atlantis on the Great Divide Route?
Plenty of people have proved you can do it fully rigid: --Someone did the entire route with a Bombadil prototype (not racing, but touring). --As far as racers go, Kent Peterson did it on a fully rigid monocog. --Rick Hunter also tried riding it with a ridged cross bike setup, but had to quit after his knee swelled up. --Deanna Edwards rode the entire thing on a fixed gear with 700x35 tires and only a rear brake! From the pics, it seems like most of the route is dirt road--not gnarly singletrack. That said, I'm sure there are a number of sections where suspension would make the whole adventure a lot more comfortable. Probably comes down to home many miles you are going to do per day. If you are going to do 100-150 like many of the GDR racers, you'd need something to take the edge off. Those are some tough mofos riding that race, and nearly all of them use front suspension. If you have more of a leisurely touring style, maybe some fat 29er tires at low psi would be enough. Dustin From: JoelMatthews joelmatth...@mac.com Reply-To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Date: Thu, 29 Oct 2009 09:38:58 -0700 (PDT) To: RBW Owners Bunch rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Subject: [RBW] Re: Atlantis on the Great Divide Route? In spite of the fact I have never really done much mountain biking, I have a bee in my bonnet that I ought to do the GD. Most of the report I have read the rider did at least have front suspension. There is a report from a GD completer a few years bike who started the ride in Canada with a Stumpjumper but switched to a front suspension bike in Montana. Personally, I have never warmed to suspension bikes so would like to think you could enjoy the trip without one. On Oct 29, 10:57 am, Ray r.sh...@sbcglobal.net wrote: Question: Is it practical to use an Atlantis on the ACA Great Divide Route, as opposed to a hard-tail mountain bike with suspension fork? I am thinking about mounting some appropriate large 700c knobbies, maybe a suspension seat post or a Brooks Flyer, and probably pull a trailer (as opposed to panniers). I have spent the past several days reading through the journals of others who have ridden the route, and the over-whelming bike of choice is a hard-tail mtb with suspension forks. What is max tire width I can use on my Atlantis? The RBW site no longer spec's that, just a recommended minimum. By the way, I realize that a Bombadil would fit the bill nicely. But, I don't have the funds at present to purchase one, and I already own a great Atlantis, which I just used on the Western Express route with panniers. Just wondering if I should think about fixing up my Schwinn Moab 3 hardtail for the Great Divide, or use the tour-tested Atlantis instead. Thank you for comments and suggestions. Ray --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: Who's in the queue for a custom Rivendell?
All depends on how far you take the ³values and style² aspect, right? I¹m not sure how a low-trail fork compromises Riv¹s values and style. It¹s not like asking for a dayglo time trial bike, right? Ultimately, seems like a question that only a phone call or e-mail to Grant can answer though. Dustin From: Bruce fullylug...@yahoo.com Reply-To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Date: Mon, 26 Oct 2009 09:34:59 -0700 (PDT) To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Subject: [RBW] Re: Who's in the queue for a custom Rivendell? Grant says exactly that in his notes on custom bike ordering. He suggests that you look at Rivs carefully to be sure that your interests align with the RBW gestalt. Copy/paste from the notes: I absolutely listen to your wishes and input, and in fact require it, want it, and use it. But ultimately it is our name that goes on the bike, so certain consistencies and standards must be met, for it to bear our name. For that reason, before ordering a Rivendell custom, it's important to familiarize yourself with our values and style, and make sure we're a good match. From: Doug Van Cleve dvancl...@gmail.com To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Sent: Mon, October 26, 2009 11:24:19 AM Subject: [RBW] Re: Who's in the queue for a custom Rivendell? Howdy folks. Unless there has been some fairly recent and radical change, a Riv Custom isn't really custom. It is Grant's design for you, tweaked within limits to your preferences. I know of at least one Custom from the Curt Goodrich days that was built with braze-ons for centerpull brakes and at least one that Curt built a front rando rack for (may have been the same bike, don't recall). So there is a precedent for that sort of thing. I don't think, though, that Grant will radically alter any traditional RBW geometry ideas so I would be surprised if he would do a low trail French style front geometry. It will be interesting to hear how these recent Customs come out. My impression is that Customs are a FAR smaller proportion of RBW sales than they were 10 years ago... Regards, Doug On Mon, Oct 26, 2009 at 7:15 AM, Patrick in VT psh...@drm.com wrote: On Oct 24, 12:54 am, benzzoy benz...@yahoo.com wrote: I believe Grant prefer rear racks but I'm hoping he'll design a frame/fork suitable for a Berthoud or Acorn front bag; perhaps Grant and Mark (Nobilette) may even consent to brazing up a simple custom front rack. :) . .. . Finally, and this is way out there, I may ask if he is willing to design the bike around the PegoRichie tubeset. sounds very much like my custom, right down to the tubes! sweet. your post implies that perhaps some of your preferences might be vetoed? how exactly does the riv custom process work? i realize that some designers/framebuilders do things their way and your either down with it or your not - and that's cool. i have a lot of respect for that. but, if you have a clear, reasoned thoughts about what *you* want (front rack, spirit tubes, etc.), I don't think you should compromise. it's *your* custom bike, afterall! in any event, I'm sure it will be a killer rig! --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: Death Valley Century/Double Ride Report Fall 2009
Rub it in? Missed out? Dod! Do you know how friggin' cool Death Valley was? :) Man, 200 miles was tough, but what a spectacular place to do it! My butt is still sore, but I'm already thinking about the spring version of the death valley double. Hope to catch the next Riv ride too! Cheers, Dustin On Oct 26, 7:53 am, Andy.M andy.e.m...@gmail.com wrote: The OC ride was a helluva lot of fun, I'm not going to rub it in and say that you boys missed out, but here's a link to the pics...http://www.flickr.com/photos/wwqandy/sets/72157622542481011/ -Andy On Oct 25, 8:32 pm, Esteban proto...@gmail.com wrote: The AdventureCorps Death Valley ride was Saturday, and Dustin and our friend Jacek and I drove up to participate. I rode a mere 120 while Dustin and Jacek conquered the double. A new baby kept me off the bike for longer than I'd wish during training time... but I'm emboldened for next year. The ride was remarkable, taking us generally from Furnace Creek up to Scottys Castle and beyond into Nevada and back -- and administered very well. Death Valley is a striking place. There was great camaraderie among the riders and there seemed to be a large cohort who reveled in the suffering. Besides Dustin's Kirk and my Romulus, another Romulus and a Heron rounded out the Bobish bicycles. Our friend Bradley rode a nice 80s Miyata road bike. I did see a lovely Waterford fixie, and another fellow rode a red Soma Rush fixie for his fixed triple crown. Most folks were are well appointed MCRBs. I didn't take many photos, and had a little ps, but here they are: http://www.flickr.com/photos/25671...@n02/sets/72157622538208323/ Wonder how the Orange County Riv Friends ride went... Esteban San Diego, Calif.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: Who's in the queue for a custom Rivendell?
When I had my Blacksheep allrounder done, I asked James to leave all stickers off and just went with a headbadge. Seemed like a nice compromise to me of making the frame identifiable in a subtle way, while avoiding the feeling of riding on a billboard between wheels. Dustin From: Seth Vidal skvi...@gmail.com Reply-To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Date: Mon, 26 Oct 2009 15:40:10 -0400 To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Subject: [RBW] Re: Who's in the queue for a custom Rivendell? On Mon, Oct 26, 2009 at 3:30 PM, newenglandbike matthiasbe...@gmail.com wrote: Not even a stamp? No names or logos seems like a pretty strict requirement for an artisan to adhere to. I only say this because I wouldn't call a builder's identity 'advertising' if all it amounted to was a stamp on the bottom bracket or something, and I certainly would *not* look at a custom frame as merely equivalent to/a product of someone's skill and time. If something as personal as a custom bicycle frame was built by human hands, whether it be an individual or multiple people, I think it should have some marking to identify those hands. I go out of my way to buy clothing that does not have any logos. I don't always succeed but I try. I like my atlantis. I think it is a great bike. I think rivendell is a great company. If I'm buying production items and I'm happy with the company then I'm willing to compromise on my requirements a bit. However, if I'm paying for something to be custom then I expect built into the cost of custom building it is the reality that it will have no markings save the ones I want. I spent hours removing all the logos from almost all the parts on a number of bikes. I've unstitched embroidered logos on pants and jackets. Removed patch logos. (seam rippers are wonderful tools) If someone wants to know what products I endorse then they can ask me. I do not wish to be compelled to do otherwise. And like I said - I'm not unwilling to compromise, to a point.( That little laser-etched logo from Velo-orange annoys the crap out of me, though) but for fully custom-made objects I expect no brands or logos. No stamps, nothing unless it is something I request. I don't think I'm being unreasonable at all, especially b/c I don't dogmatically follow this rule. -sv --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: Death Valley Century/Double Ride Report Fall 2009
Highs in Death Valley itself were in the low 90s, which is about 10 degrees above normal, I believe. For a nice chunk of that, we were up above 4000ft where the temps were nicer (but where the headwinds were a killer). When we woke Sunday to go home, the winds were really roaring. So overall, I think were were pretty lucky! The poor guys who raced the Furnace Creek 508 in DV a few weeks earlier had 30-40 mph winds for a very long stretch. Dustin From: JoelMatthews joelmatth...@mac.com Reply-To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Date: Mon, 26 Oct 2009 13:07:06 -0700 (PDT) To: RBW Owners Bunch rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Subject: [RBW] Re: Death Valley Century/Double Ride Report Fall 2009 Dustin: What were the temps in Death Valley for the ride? Were they near seasonal averages? On Oct 26, 12:55 pm, Dustin Sharp dsh...@runbox.com wrote: Rub it in? Missed out? Dod! Do you know how friggin' cool Death Valley was? :) Man, 200 miles was tough, but what a spectacular place to do it! My butt is still sore, but I'm already thinking about the spring version of the death valley double. Hope to catch the next Riv ride too! Cheers, Dustin On Oct 26, 7:53 am, Andy.M andy.e.m...@gmail.com wrote: The OC ride was a helluva lot of fun, I'm not going to rub it in and say that you boys missed out, but here's a link to the pics...http://www.flickr.com/photos/wwqandy/sets/72157622542481011/ -Andy On Oct 25, 8:32 pm, Esteban proto...@gmail.com wrote: The AdventureCorps Death Valley ride was Saturday, and Dustin and our friend Jacek and I drove up to participate. I rode a mere 120 while Dustin and Jacek conquered the double. A new baby kept me off the bike for longer than I'd wish during training time... but I'm emboldened for next year. The ride was remarkable, taking us generally from Furnace Creek up to Scottys Castle and beyond into Nevada and back -- and administered very well. Death Valley is a striking place. There was great camaraderie among the riders and there seemed to be a large cohort who reveled in the suffering. Besides Dustin's Kirk and my Romulus, another Romulus and a Heron rounded out the Bobish bicycles. Our friend Bradley rode a nice 80s Miyata road bike. I did see a lovely Waterford fixie, and another fellow rode a red Soma Rush fixie for his fixed triple crown. Most folks were are well appointed MCRBs. I didn't take many photos, and had a little ps, but here they are: http://www.flickr.com/photos/25671...@n02/sets/72157622538208323/ Wonder how the Orange County Riv Friends ride went... Esteban San Diego, Calif.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: Wiggy's Sleeping Bag
The sew-your-own gear IS a cool idea. I also like the idea of growing all my own food. Neither of them are likely to happen though unless I find myself unemployed! Dustin From: Stuart Fletcher stuart.fletc...@gmail.com Reply-To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Date: Wed, 14 Oct 2009 09:54:15 -0700 To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Subject: [RBW] Re: Wiggy's Sleeping Bag Ray Jardine is a big quilt advocate. There's a bunch of info on his site here: http://www.rayjardine.com/ray-way/Quilt-Kit/index.htm or (same thing): http://bit.ly/2Cn3hv I've never used a quilt instead of a sleeping bag but I'm really interested in trying it out. (I also like Ray Jardine's sew-your-own-gear stance but I haven't yet sewn any of my own gear. That's neither here nor there though.) Stuart Seattle, WA On Wed, Oct 14, 2009 at 8:31 AM, clevewheel clevewh...@gmail.com wrote: Those quilts are a really cool idea, but I have a hard time seeing how they would cover as well as a sleeping bag. On Oct 13, 12:16 pm, usuk2007 clive.stand...@umassmed.edu wrote: Take a look at www.jacksrbetter.com They do a nice line of down sleeping quilts. They pack down small and don't cost as much as many down bags. They must be used with a sleeping pad and give you lots of options for moving about. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: From full suspension to Bombadil??
It's interesting to note that one of the few modern mountain bike designers specializing in fully rigid bikes, Jeff Jones, uses many of the same design features as Rivendell to smooth out the ride: --highish bars --slackish seat tube angle --shortish top tube --super plump tires All of this is designed to get the weight off the hands and cushion the blow. Lots of us can probably remember what it was like to descend a really rough trail back in the late 80s, early 90s with those old cross country bikes. I remember having to stop and constantly wring my hands out because of the abuse. I'd love to try descending on a Jones or Bombadil to see if it is an improvement over my early 90s MTB in that respect. Dustin keeping his dual suspension 29er for now Sharp From: jinxed hbcl...@yahoo.com Reply-To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Date: Mon, 14 Sep 2009 13:01:55 -0700 (PDT) To: RBW Owners Bunch rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Subject: [RBW] From full suspension to Bombadil?? I know asking a bunch of bike nuts which bike for me is a bit of a silly proposition, but I do have some specific questions and would love to hear the commentary. So obviously as the thread title suggests, I am considering a Bombadil, coming from a full suspension bike. Now that comment in and of itself is fairly vague without some background and detail. So here we go. I am freshly turned 38 and have been a cyclist for the last 23 years. Cut the teeth on BMX racing, then a die hard mountain biker for several years, a few at road racing, and since have become an advocate of anything with 2 wheels. For full disclosure I have worked on and off in the bike biz for 15 years. I ride as much as I can, but with my first child now 2, I tend to do a bunch of trailer pulling and just for fun cruising. Which I love. Competition, training, and extreme riding is well behind me. I just love biking. Having started mountain biking in the late 80's I have basically spanned the full range from quite rigid non suspended bike (Klein Adroit) to plush full boing (Yeti 303). The riding I enjoy is cross country climbing type of rides. Twisty single track, trees, smooth fast rollers...that's what I like. Maybe an occasional trip to Moab. I am a sissy descender and don't do big hit kind of stuff. Colorado is great because it offers up all manner of dirt fun, so I'm certainly not lost for terrain here. Now about 3 years ago, just before my daughter was born, I picked up a new Yeti AS-R SLC full suspension cross country bike. All the sexy stuff on it, light, fast, plush. Well, I rode it @ 6 times while my wife was pregnant. Daughter came aboard, I became stay home dad, and the bike has sat for 2 years. Now backing up a year, I realized I needed a more utility oriented bike, and wanted a sort of townie do- all. All my bikes were of some race oriented design, no rack capability, and aggressively fit and geared. So, that led me to the Bleriot. I have ridden nothing else since then. It fit the ticket so perfectly it has almost become my main reason for riding. I just love to ride it. Got rid of my old beach cruiser, road race bike, and cross racing bike. No tears shed at all. But here's the rubalthough not ridden, I am extremely hesitant to get rid of my dedicated mountain bike. My very first preference is to ride in dirt, but being 45 min to an hour from the closest trails has been very tough to work into the schedule. I am also aware that my riding ability is now (and probably has been for a while) far outmatched by the Yeti. I have it basically because I have seemingly always had a racing mountain bike. So here is where some question comes in. Has anyone gone from a hi- tech suspension bike to a rigid Bombadil? Good or bad? Now having come from rigid frames, I understand all that is entailed there, and also things like disc vs. cantillever braking etc, but the Bomba is quite a different beast from rigid bikes of old. Having been riding a 650b I am seeing it's benefit on roads, but have never experienced it in the dirt, so thoughts there? And also sizing...based on my PBH of 86.5 I would be on a 52 or 56 Riv from a (med) Yeti, but from pictures, the Bombadil looks massiveis it unwieldy in the dirt? Tight single track an issue? I am sure fire roads and such are a blast. Yes I have considered that the Bleriot could be made to do some dirt riding, but lets go on the assumption I want to keep it as is. The Yeti would certainly have to go in order to do this, so no have em both. The thought of having a bike that is as versatile in the dirt as the bleriot is on roads is wildly appealing to me. I may actually be on the verge of having only 2 bikes. That from an all time high of 28. So what say the Bombadil Brigade? --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To
[RBW] Re: Nice Lugged Stems
Pretty reasonable weight on that stem too. From: Pete pedalling.p...@gmail.com Reply-To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Date: Thu, 3 Sep 2009 08:47:23 -0700 (PDT) To: RBW Owners Bunch rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Subject: [RBW] Nice Lugged Stems What's up with Modolo? I've never been too impressed with their strange collection of parts. But then I stumbled on this nice looking lugged and chrome plated thread less stem in their catalog on page 12: http://www.modolo.com/Cat-Modolo-2009.pdf The white version wouldn't look out of place on the new Rivendell Roadeo. Problem is there doesn't seem to be any info or shop that stock it. Anyone have more info? --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
