Wow!  That bike really pops off the screen.

Nice!


> From: Esteban <[email protected]>
> Reply-To: <[email protected]>
> Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2010 10:09:16 -0700 (PDT)
> To: RBW Owners Bunch <[email protected]>
> Subject: [RBW] Re: Grant's latest post.
> 
> Here's Mike's monstercross (forgive me) Hillborne all-rounder bomber:
> 
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/37347...@n05/4449447882/sizes/l/
> 
> Pretty awesome!  Mike - have you thought of adding 'cross levers?
> They might do the trick nicely.
> 
> I'd prefer an Hillborne built up this way to a Hunqa.  But that's
> perhaps meant for beefier riding/loads?
> 
> Esteban
> San Diego, Calif.
> 
> On Mar 30, 9:54 am, Michael_S <[email protected]> wrote:
>> My Hillborne is pretty close to Chris's all rounder with slightly
>> smaller 700x40 knobbies. I did start with Noodle drop bars but after a
>> particularly steep and long dirt downhill this past Sunday I am
>> starting to think about a different handlebar. Maybe a WTB dirt drop
>> ( with black ano removed! ) because long continous braking  is much
>> better in the drops which are not as comfortable on the Noodles. Can't
>> access Flicker from work but pics are at my site under Mikeybikes. The
>> Hillborne is perfect for this with the upslope top tube. Next up are
>> some 700x 45 or 47 knobbies, I've been eyeing the Kenda Karma's at
>> 1.9"  wondering if they would fit?
>> 
>> ~Mike~
>> 
>> On Mar 30, 9:23 am, Esteban <[email protected]> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> I just caught 
>>> 
this:http://www.adventurecorps.com/chronicles/2003/2003moabmaze/pages/DSC0..>>>
.
>>> andhttp://www.flickr.com/photos/25671...@n02/4473833906/
>> 
>>> Kindred spirits.
>> 
>>> So.. will someone build up a Hillborn in this manner?  Or post pics if
>>> you got it? Seems like it would be pretty perfect for such a build.
>>> Don't mean to hijack the "skinny tires offroad" thread.
>> 
>>> Esteban
>>> San Diego, Calif.
>> 
>>> On Mar 30, 9:06 am, Esteban <[email protected]> wrote:
>> 
>>>> I love all this stuff - and Grant's and Chris' writings are fun,
>>>> provocative, and useful. Rough riding & underbiking is where its at.
>>>> Seems to be a common interest among the Riv Appreciation Society
>>>> riders down here.
>> 
>>>> It is indeed fun to ride a road bike with Jack Browns or Pasela 32s or
>>>> 35s out on the trails.  Its a gas.  I'm also having a gas on the
>>>> Rawland with 58mm knobbies, but all-rounder geometry.  Think "XO-1
>>>> with a 6 degree upslope tt and fat ass tires."  I don't get out on
>>>> singletrack as much as I like, but when I do (Big Laguna loop, Los
>>>> Penasquitos Preserve, San Clemente Canyon, Nobel Canyon here in SD
>>>> County), I certainly have a ball on that bike.  I like to ride to the
>>>> trail if possible, and the knobbies sure do cause a racket!
>> 
>>>> I'm an overly cautious rider on dirt, and as Chris mentions, a lot of
>>>> where I ride can be pretty darn rocky offroad.  And if I'm to believe
>>>> Dustin, some of the rides I'd like to do would cause more sanity with
>>>> suspension.
>> 
>>>> I think suspension is helpful if you're in a group.  The thing is, and
>>>> here's where I think Grant's spot on (if indeed conservative), if you
>>>> just go slow, hike-a-bike, enjoy the scenery, you can take any bike
>>>> nearly anywhere.
>> 
>>>> Looking forward to the Rough Riders Rally to discuss this further with
>>>> kindred souls!
>> 
>>>> On Mar 30, 9:28 am, CycloFiend <[email protected]> wrote:
>> 
>>>>> on 3/30/10 4:20 AM, Frederick, Steve at [email protected] wrote:
>> 
>>>>>> I think Grant's preferences for roadish trail bikes stem in part from his
>>>>>> location--Marin County is opposed, even hostile toward biking on trails,
>>>>>> going
>>>>>> all the way back to the birth of modern mountain biking.  The less you
>>>>>> look
>>>>>> like a "Mountain biker," the less likely you are to face the wrath of
>>>>>> upset
>>>>>> hikers and ticket writing rangers.
>> 
>>>>> Actually, Grant and Rivendell's location is in the East Bay - specifically
>>>>> Contra Costa county. That doesn't change or undercut his message - and in
>>>>> fact his comments are incredibly salient.
>> 
>>>>> I, on the other hand, have somehow managed to remain in Marin.
>> 
>>>>> Lucky me... ;^)
>> 
>>>>> In the interest of not promoting stereotypes, it should be noted that
>>>>> attitudes of hostility here in "the birthplace of mountain biking" have
>>>>> refined and mellowed over the years.  Yes, there are high-profile and
>>>>> hotheaded comments made from the same entrenched individuals on both sides
>>>>> of access issues, and that tends to get press when it happens.  But, the
>>>>> facts are that bicycles have been common on the trails for more than 20
>>>>> years. in general, people are used to them and realize they aren't going
>>>>> anywhere.
>> 
>>>>> Most people behave well. Many people could use some constructive
>>>>> criticism.
>>>>> Some people have no clue.
>> 
>>>>> http://ramblings.cyclofiend.com/?p=273
>> 
>>>>> I do find that when people see me way up some trail on the Hilsen or
>>>>> Quickbeam, the first response is to smile.  But, I'm pretty proactive in
>>>>> doing the same and finding something to comment about, other than saying
>>>>> "onyerleft".  Wildflowers, birds and weather are always good starting
>>>>> points.  
>> 
>>>>> - Jim
>> 
>>>>> --
>>>>> Jim Edgar
>>>>> [email protected]
>> 
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