Re: [RBW] Any Riv folks in Loveland, CO?
Pretty sure there are enough of us for a local raid. This is one of my lights at the end of the Covid tunnel! I'm really looking forward to creating a bike community where we can do group rides and possibly S24Os. On Tuesday, April 7, 2020 at 10:39:15 PM UTC-6, James Davis wrote: > > Kip, > There are a few of us down here in Denver. I know that is not ideal, but > we’re out here. > > Best, > James Gardner Davis > Denver “The Queen City of the Plains” > > On Sat, Apr 4, 2020 at 6:53 PM Kip Otteson > wrote: > >> I’m moving to Loveland and I know it’s not the right time for group rides >> but was wondering if there are any Owners in this area? >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "RBW Owners Bunch" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com . >> To view this discussion on the web visit >> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/f510826c-1305-4e52-8b5f-3da11c2588d8%40googlegroups.com >> . >> > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/15caf597-69ab-47c4-bdf9-d73bb184d798%40googlegroups.com.
[RBW] Re: Any Riv folks in Loveland, CO?
Sounds like there are few up in the area. I just did the Carter Lake route from Loveland and it was an excellent country ride. It's got enough climbing for me, for sure and nice rolling terrain. I'm estimating 25-30 miles. That could be fun and do a coffee brew up at the marina! I don't know when this is going to be over, but I'm ready for some fun summer rides. On Saturday, April 4, 2020 at 6:53:54 PM UTC-6, Kip Otteson wrote: > > I’m moving to Loveland and I know it’s not the right time for group rides > but was wondering if there are any Owners in this area? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/542325ed-3752-4c9c-a792-f949cc88f935%40googlegroups.com.
[RBW] Any Riv folks in Loveland, CO?
I’m moving to Loveland and I know it’s not the right time for group rides but was wondering if there are any Owners in this area? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/f510826c-1305-4e52-8b5f-3da11c2588d8%40googlegroups.com.
[RBW] Re: My wife's request for a bike tour
We looked at almost that same route. I am a little freaked about the traffic, but I do feel that if we are spooked too often we can figure out another option. That's the trouble with kids. I want them to have adventures but I also want them to be alive! So far they are alive, but I hate to have to worry about it. I guess we'll just have to see. The thing I think about is how much traffic we road in in Chiang Mai and how well they did. We've all been hit by cars but it was at slow speeds. The cars in the US really rip along. I'm just rambling, but I appreciate your advice! On Tuesday, October 9, 2018 at 12:35:04 PM UTC-6, Jon BALER wrote: > > Back in 2015, my wife, a friend, and I did a 5 week tour from Vancouver to > San Louis Obispo. We primarily followed the Adventure cycling and book > routes, but departed west from Portland to hook up with the Cascades route, > took that south to Crater Lake, and then back to the coast for the last bit > of Oregon. We also took a detour to Sonoma county before reaching San > Francisco. It was just under 1800 miles. > > Some thoughts: > >- Highway 1 has pretty heavy traffic in places on the CA coast. Not >sure it would be suitable for a family tour. I was almost taken out by an >RV mirror, but otherwise it wasn't terrible. Definitely helpful to have a >mirror. >- The climp up Bear camp road back to the coast in Oregon can be quite >long and hot with no water in the summer. We paid a rafting company to >shuttle us. >- We ended our tour in SLO, after hearing the remaining journey to LA >wouldn't be great. I recall hearing quality of campsites would be an > issue. >- Going inland in Oregon to Hood River, Cascade Lakes, Bend/Sisters, >and Crater Lake was awesome and had many highlights of the trip. > > > > On Tuesday, October 9, 2018 at 11:10:47 AM UTC-4, Clayton wrote: >> >> I did a three week tour of the Canadian Islands around Victoria island on >> the west coast. I really enjoyed it. No litter, nice people, great scenery >> and camping. Traffic was light and polite. The pastries are something I >> will always remember. Great bakers. It was a slow paced tour with rather >> low mileage as the islands are not that big. We explored an island for a >> couple of days, and then took a ferry to another. VERY enjoyable. >> >> Clayton >> DDD >> > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: My wife's request for a bike tour
Sounds wonderful! We did Ireland in 98 and it was the same for us. Sooo nice! On Tuesday, October 9, 2018 at 9:10:47 AM UTC-6, Clayton wrote: > > I did a three week tour of the Canadian Islands around Victoria island on > the west coast. I really enjoyed it. No litter, nice people, great scenery > and camping. Traffic was light and polite. The pastries are something I > will always remember. Great bakers. It was a slow paced tour with rather > low mileage as the islands are not that big. We explored an island for a > couple of days, and then took a ferry to another. VERY enjoyable. > > Clayton > DDD > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] My wife's request for a bike tour
I hope I can be organized enough to post stuff. I'm lame at documenting our rides. I've done one on Crazyguyonabike, but usually it's just mental memories. On Monday, October 8, 2018 at 3:14:20 PM UTC-6, Patrick Moore wrote: > > I've no advice to give, but I for one would be very interested to read > reports and see photos of your family cycling vacation. > > I hope it goes well. > > On Sun, Oct 7, 2018 at 5:57 PM Kip Otteson > wrote: > >> My wife requested that we do a bike tour this upcoming summer. This is a >> pretty rare request and when she mentioned it I jumped at the chance. I'm >> planning on riding the Pacific Coast route as laid out by Adventure >> Cycling. We are not doing the whole trip, but are going to be riding from >> Southern Oregon and will be ending up in the OC. The crew will be me, my >> wife, and two kids, daughter (12) and son (15). We have ridden a few tours >> in SE Asia but nothing this long. Not remotely. I'll be on my Bombadil, >> my wife on her Heron, and my son on a Surly Pack Rat, daughter on an 86' >> Panasonic Mountain Cat 4500. We plan on being on the road from the 10th of >> June till around the middle of July. We are both school teachers so this >> is doable as far as work is concerned. Being teachers, we are on a budget >> and plan on camping as much as we can. We have used Warm Showers in the >> past and are hosts. That is a great deal, for sure. >> >> I'm looking for any suggestions from folks that have done this. Good >> places to camp, words of advice on road conditions, etc. >> >> Thanks in advance. >> >> Kip >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "RBW Owners Bunch" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com . >> To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com >> . >> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >> > > > -- > Resumes, LinkedIn profiles, bios, and letters that get interviews. > By-the-hour resume and LinkedIn coaching. > Other professional writing services. > http://www.resumespecialties.com/ > Patrick Moore > Alburquerque, New Mexico, Etats Unis d'Amerique > ** > ** > *Auditis an me ludit amabilis insania?* > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: My wife's request for a bike tour
I agree, Patrick. I think that it would be nice to mix it up and get off the beaten path. We are going to be open varying which route we take. If the traffic gets too crazy we can definitely switch it up. I know what you mean about being spoiled. I'm in Colorado too. I live off of Highway 77 in Jefferson and it's probably the best kept secret in the state. Crazy good riding and nobody around! On Monday, October 8, 2018 at 2:15:52 PM UTC-6, Deacon Patrick wrote: > > Kip, > > First ... sweet! Sounds a blast! Second, I second the idea of considering > a less trafficed path. I recall being surprised by how much traffic was > there for an official bike route (but then, I’m rather spoiled in this neck > of the woods). Perhaps a blend of routes, hitting the remote sections of > the coast and then going more inland? Unless traffic has no effect on your > or your wife and kids’ enjoyment of the days’ rides, may be worth > considering. > > With abandon, > Patrick -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: My wife's request for a bike tour
Thanks, Shawn! I'll be sure to look this up. On Monday, October 8, 2018 at 1:53:12 PM UTC-6, Shawn Granton wrote: > > On Sunday, October 7, 2018 at 7:52:54 PM UTC-7, dougP wrote: >> >> A complimentary resource to the ACA maps is Bicycling the Pacific Coast >> by Vicki Spring & Tom Kirkendell (The Mountaineers Books, Seattle). The >> commentaries are more detailed and the route is essentially the same: take >> Hwy 1 south. >> > > To note: Spring/Kirkendell no longer do this book. Their final (4th) > edition came out in 2005, and was a bit shopworn then. > Bill Thorness has taken over the title, and put out a new edition this > year: > http://billthorness.com/cycling-the-pacific-coast/ > > While the Spring/Kirkendell run was good for its time, the new Thorness > version is much improved and has much more detail, so I'd encourage anyone > who wants info on touring the Pacific Coast to seek out the new book. > > -Shawn in PDX > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: My wife's request for a bike tour
Steve, I looked at that option. I think the hills are a bit more heavy duty on that route. We also live in the Rockies so the beach is the big draw! On Monday, October 8, 2018 at 6:36:28 AM UTC-6, stevef wrote: > > If it were me, I'd opt for the Cascade route over the coastal route. > Lower traffic, less development and, well-I'm more of a mountain view guy > than an ocean view guy but that's just me... > > Good luck, Steve > > On Sunday, October 7, 2018 at 7:57:13 PM UTC-4, Kip Otteson wrote: >> >> My wife requested that we do a bike tour this upcoming summer. This is a >> pretty rare request and when she mentioned it I jumped at the chance. I'm >> planning on riding the Pacific Coast route as laid out by Adventure >> Cycling. We are not doing the whole trip, but are going to be riding from >> Southern Oregon and will be ending up in the OC. The crew will be me, my >> wife, and two kids, daughter (12) and son (15). We have ridden a few tours >> in SE Asia but nothing this long. Not remotely. I'll be on my Bombadil, >> my wife on her Heron, and my son on a Surly Pack Rat, daughter on an 86' >> Panasonic Mountain Cat 4500. We plan on being on the road from the 10th of >> June till around the middle of July. We are both school teachers so this >> is doable as far as work is concerned. Being teachers, we are on a budget >> and plan on camping as much as we can. We have used Warm Showers in the >> past and are hosts. That is a great deal, for sure. >> >> I'm looking for any suggestions from folks that have done this. Good >> places to camp, words of advice on road conditions, etc. >> >> Thanks in advance. >> >> Kip >> > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: My wife's request for a bike tour
Cool, Matt! I'll check that out for sure. On Monday, October 8, 2018 at 9:00:29 AM UTC-6, Matt C. wrote: > > Kip, > > May I recommend this podcast on bike touring the Pacific Coast: > > https://castbox.fm/vb/3096376 > > Also, he has other episodes that discuss different sections he has done > that were shorter. I think in 2017 he did a southern Oregon to San > Francisco ride. I'm sure if you read episode descriptions you could easily > find it. > > Best of luck on your tour next summer! > > Matt Cook > Bristol, RI > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: My wife's request for a bike tour
Thanks for the info, Doug. I appreciate all the time you took with this. I'm from the OC myself and as soon as I hit Seal Beach I have a lots of old tricks up my sleeve. My mom is in Aliso Viejo so that's our final stop. I've done the ride from LAX with the kids when they were much younger and it was cool. I enjoyed the strange looks we got with these little kids on touring bikes! I'm worried about the hills with my daughter, but I'll have to just see how she does! I have the the book you mentioned. My book is pretty vintage, however. I think they've put up new stuff since mine was published. On Sunday, October 7, 2018 at 8:52:54 PM UTC-6, dougP wrote: > > Kip: > > A complimentary resource to the ACA maps is Bicycling the Pacific Coast by > Vicki Spring & Tom Kirkendell (The Mountaineers Books, Seattle). The > commentaries are more detailed and the route is essentially the same: take > Hwy 1 south. > > Something to think about: crossing LA on a bicycle is a bit tedious, to > say the least. I grew up in LA and have lived with heavy traffic all my > life. For ease of navigation, most published routes across LA stick to the > Pacific Coast Bike Route, aka SR 1, for the most part. Study this area > carefully as there are more pleasant alternates with some minor > adjustments, sometimes just being a couple of blocks off SR 1 (commonly > referred to as PCH in the area). > > There is no camping between Malibu State Park (north of LA) and Doheny SP > (southern OC). There is a new hostel in San Pedro called the South Bay > Hostel. Of course, if you can get Warm Showers across this stretch that's > the best solution. > > One caution on the Bicycling the Pacific Coast info: it's set-up as > roughly 60 mile per day average. This may be challenging given the amount > of climbing, esp for the kids. They do a good job of listing all the > campgrounds along the way but only comment on the ones they've used. The > ACA maps also have good info on services. > > We live in Orange County & could possibly help out, although we have no > travel plans that far off. Contact me directly if you want to discuss in > detail. > > Doug Peterson > > On Sunday, October 7, 2018 at 4:57:13 PM UTC-7, Kip Otteson wrote: >> >> My wife requested that we do a bike tour this upcoming summer. This is a >> pretty rare request and when she mentioned it I jumped at the chance. I'm >> planning on riding the Pacific Coast route as laid out by Adventure >> Cycling. We are not doing the whole trip, but are going to be riding from >> Southern Oregon and will be ending up in the OC. The crew will be me, my >> wife, and two kids, daughter (12) and son (15). We have ridden a few tours >> in SE Asia but nothing this long. Not remotely. I'll be on my Bombadil, >> my wife on her Heron, and my son on a Surly Pack Rat, daughter on an 86' >> Panasonic Mountain Cat 4500. We plan on being on the road from the 10th of >> June till around the middle of July. We are both school teachers so this >> is doable as far as work is concerned. Being teachers, we are on a budget >> and plan on camping as much as we can. We have used Warm Showers in the >> past and are hosts. That is a great deal, for sure. >> >> I'm looking for any suggestions from folks that have done this. Good >> places to camp, words of advice on road conditions, etc. >> >> Thanks in advance. >> >> Kip >> > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] My wife's request for a bike tour
Thanks, Steven. I'll be sure to check that out. I love that site! On Sunday, October 7, 2018 at 6:02:26 PM UTC-6, Steven Sweedler wrote: > > Kip, here is a link to a Crazyguy trip report from an experienced tourer > who just rode from Vancover to San Diego.He records a huge amount of info > about the route, services, etc. > > https://www.crazyguyonabike.com/doc/page/?o=1mr_id=550960=AV > > Steve > Plymouth, NH > > > On Sun, Oct 7, 2018 at 7:57 PM Kip Otteson > wrote: > >> My wife requested that we do a bike tour this upcoming summer. This is a >> pretty rare request and when she mentioned it I jumped at the chance. I'm >> planning on riding the Pacific Coast route as laid out by Adventure >> Cycling. We are not doing the whole trip, but are going to be riding from >> Southern Oregon and will be ending up in the OC. The crew will be me, my >> wife, and two kids, daughter (12) and son (15). We have ridden a few tours >> in SE Asia but nothing this long. Not remotely. I'll be on my Bombadil, >> my wife on her Heron, and my son on a Surly Pack Rat, daughter on an 86' >> Panasonic Mountain Cat 4500. We plan on being on the road from the 10th of >> June till around the middle of July. We are both school teachers so this >> is doable as far as work is concerned. Being teachers, we are on a budget >> and plan on camping as much as we can. We have used Warm Showers in the >> past and are hosts. That is a great deal, for sure. >> >> I'm looking for any suggestions from folks that have done this. Good >> places to camp, words of advice on road conditions, etc. >> >> Thanks in advance. >> >> Kip >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "RBW Owners Bunch" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com . >> To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com >> . >> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >> > -- > Steven Sweedler > Plymouth, New Hampshire > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] My wife's request for a bike tour
My wife requested that we do a bike tour this upcoming summer. This is a pretty rare request and when she mentioned it I jumped at the chance. I'm planning on riding the Pacific Coast route as laid out by Adventure Cycling. We are not doing the whole trip, but are going to be riding from Southern Oregon and will be ending up in the OC. The crew will be me, my wife, and two kids, daughter (12) and son (15). We have ridden a few tours in SE Asia but nothing this long. Not remotely. I'll be on my Bombadil, my wife on her Heron, and my son on a Surly Pack Rat, daughter on an 86' Panasonic Mountain Cat 4500. We plan on being on the road from the 10th of June till around the middle of July. We are both school teachers so this is doable as far as work is concerned. Being teachers, we are on a budget and plan on camping as much as we can. We have used Warm Showers in the past and are hosts. That is a great deal, for sure. I'm looking for any suggestions from folks that have done this. Good places to camp, words of advice on road conditions, etc. Thanks in advance. Kip -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Thanks again for helping my student in the USA.
I asked the group about a year ago to help a student find housing options in Portland as he was going to attend the UBI course. Chris Chen volunteered to house him and the offer was graciously accepted. I think it took about 45 minutes to find some place for this kid to stay. Unbelievably cool. He went to Portland, got his bike schooling done, found time to do Ragbrai, and got tons of experience regarding community cycling development. The plan worked. He came back to Chiang Mai and has started his own shop, Two Revolutions. He has built a tall bike to lead the Critical Mass rides in town and you can see him everywhere promoting what he loves. He is an incredibly positive example of what hard work and passion can accomplish. Thanks again for helping him out and I know you'll hear his name in cycling circles in the future. You guys are always welcome to visit Chiang Mai and you have a place to stay with us. Kip Otteson Chiang Mai, Thailand -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Student you guys helped update
Doug, I'll be there summer after this one. I'll be hooking up for a ride for sure. Come on out whenever you get the itch. On Saturday, April 26, 2014 5:43:11 AM UTC+7, dougP wrote: Good to see the Chiang Mai Rivendell group is still active. You guys have been quiet for a while. Still hoping to see you here in OC someday. dougP On Thursday, April 24, 2014 8:51:05 PM UTC-7, Kip Otteson wrote: Hey, guys. Thanks again for helping out the student Kan kyi that I wrote about earlier. He is enrolled in the UBI course for the month of October in Portland and will be going to the USA in June to intern at the Community Cycling Center in Portland. He is planning on doing work with the BTA as well. He wants to learn community organizing and bicycle repair so that he can bring these skills back to Chiang Mai and start a community bike shop. He's been organizing alleycat races in Chiang Mai and it's bringing all kinds of kids together from all types of backgrounds. Here's a link to a video of the first race. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vp6dLjKwheUfeature=youtu.be If you see a fat beardy guy on a tandem with a cute little girl that's me and my daughter. Thanks again. Kip Otteson Chiang Mai, Thailand -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Student you guys helped update
Hey, guys. Thanks again for helping out the student Kan kyi that I wrote about earlier. He is enrolled in the UBI course for the month of October in Portland and will be going to the USA in June to intern at the Community Cycling Center in Portland. He is planning on doing work with the BTA as well. He wants to learn community organizing and bicycle repair so that he can bring these skills back to Chiang Mai and start a community bike shop. He's been organizing alleycat races in Chiang Mai and it's bringing all kinds of kids together from all types of backgrounds. Here's a link to a video of the first race. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vp6dLjKwheUfeature=youtu.be If you see a fat beardy guy on a tandem with a cute little girl that's me and my daughter. Thanks again. Kip Otteson Chiang Mai, Thailand -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Heron (from RBWWHQ) gets new life as 650b
My wife has that same frame. I got it in 1998 or so complete from Rivendell, if memory serves. It's shakedown was a tour of Ireland. Excellent bike and the ride is superb. She won't let me change a thing about it and as long as she's happy riding, I won't. On Sunday, March 9, 2014 6:23:45 AM UTC+7, reynoldslugs wrote: Dear List, Here's a note I just posted on iBob, it's about a frame I got from Grant a number of years back. I'm very fond of the frame, as it's the reason I got back into cycling after a hiatus of 12 or 13 years. I had fallen out of biking for a number of years - - aluminum bikes and index shifting didn't suit me too well - - then one night over a few beers the Right Reverend Mookie Rex handed me a Rivendell Catalog, which led to the purchase of this frame, a renewed interest in cycling, and many good times since. Here is what I just posted on the Bob list: With quite a bit of help from the list, this project is finally done: http://www.flickr.com/photos/41563482@N06/sets/72157642068014924/http://www.google.com/url?q=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.flickr.com%2Fphotos%2F41563482%40N06%2Fsets%2F72157642068014924%2Fsa=Dsntz=1usg=AFQjCNF_clrg9dd2y8uOGxNHN8wF_i85Hw It's an older Heron Road frame, just a bit of beausage. I got this bike from Grant Peterson maybe 15 years ago. It was hanging in the garage, and has a new life as a 650B. I haven't ridden it much, just around the neighborhood, but I like the way it looks and feels. Parts include the following: Phil Hubs from the original build, now on Velo-Orange rims with Soma B-line 650x38s. Sugino PX crankset in 26-40 Shimano Deore r/d Suntour Superbe Pro f/d Superbe Seatpost - 27.0 Nitto flat bars - these suckers are pretty heavy... Selle Anatomica Titanico X for Clyde Tektro Big Mouth King Iris Thin Gripsters I'll take it out for some hills this week and will send along a ride report. thanks again - Max B Sonoma County CA -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Looking for some advice, contacts in Portland
Hello from Thailand. I'm currently helping a student look into the UBI school in Portland for the mechanics course. The course is 6,450 dollars for the whole shebang and he has that much money. He can also fly over from Thailand to do the course. What I'm looking for is some good soul that would house him and let him work for food and lodging while he's in Portland from the beginning of October to November 8th or so. The courses run from the 6th of October to November 7th. So, one month. This kid is named Kan Kyi and he's an ethnic Burmese/Shan person. He's very motivated to start a community bike shop in Chiang Mai and use the space to bring communities together of Thai, Burmese, and various ethnic tribes through cycling and art. My family has land in town that is available for him to use for a shop and the lease runs for five years. Kan Kyi has applied and been accepted to numerous universities in the states but there is just not enough scholarship money for his needs to be met. His family has chosen public service over money and it is hard to pay such huge fees for American schools. The space that Kan Kyi's shop would be located on includes Documentary Arts Asia and the Pun Pun Farm restaurant. This is going to be a kind of alternative, organic, sustainable think tank in the middle of the city. Super cool! So does anyone on the list want to take a risk and host a budding bike nut for a month? I know Kan Kyi wants to work out some kind of rent payment. (He'll soon have crazy bike skills!) He'll come to Portland with his Surly LHT and get to work. Two other list guys can vouch for him, Earl Grey (Gernot Huber) and Paul Y. Thanks for the time. Kip Otteson Chiang Mai, Thailand -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Looking for some advice, contacts in Portland
Holy moley! That is too much. I'll have Kan Kyi email you. I can't believe how rad you guys are. I told this student that this is the place where people would have good ideas about where to go and how to do things. Thanks again. On Thursday, March 6, 2014 12:25:22 PM UTC+7, Christopher Chen wrote: My Family is from Burma. I can put him up. We can make Shan-style Tofu. cc On Wed, Mar 5, 2014 at 7:37 PM, Kip Otteson kip.o...@gmail.comjavascript: wrote: Hello from Thailand. I'm currently helping a student look into the UBI school in Portland for the mechanics course. The course is 6,450 dollars for the whole shebang and he has that much money. He can also fly over from Thailand to do the course. What I'm looking for is some good soul that would house him and let him work for food and lodging while he's in Portland from the beginning of October to November 8th or so. The courses run from the 6th of October to November 7th. So, one month. This kid is named Kan Kyi and he's an ethnic Burmese/Shan person. He's very motivated to start a community bike shop in Chiang Mai and use the space to bring communities together of Thai, Burmese, and various ethnic tribes through cycling and art. My family has land in town that is available for him to use for a shop and the lease runs for five years. Kan Kyi has applied and been accepted to numerous universities in the states but there is just not enough scholarship money for his needs to be met. His family has chosen public service over money and it is hard to pay such huge fees for American schools. The space that Kan Kyi's shop would be located on includes Documentary Arts Asia and the Pun Pun Farm restaurant. This is going to be a kind of alternative, organic, sustainable think tank in the middle of the city. Super cool! So does anyone on the list want to take a risk and host a budding bike nut for a month? I know Kan Kyi wants to work out some kind of rent payment. (He'll soon have crazy bike skills!) He'll come to Portland with his Surly LHT and get to work. Two other list guys can vouch for him, Earl Grey (Gernot Huber) and Paul Y. Thanks for the time. Kip Otteson Chiang Mai, Thailand -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com javascript:. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.comjavascript: . Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- I want the kind of six pack you can't drink. -- Micah -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Pikes Peak S30O
I'm going to be doing one of these rides with you in a couple of falls. I'll be on sabbatical in a couple of years and the plan is to ride in Colorado as much as I can before it's too snowy. I'm homesick! Thailand is great but the sky in those pics kills me! Kip Otteson Chiang Mai, Thailand On Saturday, September 28, 2013 8:36:45 PM UTC+7, Deacon Patrick wrote: Inexplicably, Steve joined me for a second ride, this one a sub-30 hour-outing, with more LCG ridge climbing, and a wee bit of snow. We went in at the end of Craig's Road, popped over a ridge, made camp, and went joy riding for the rest of the day and a good chunk of the next before packing up and heading out. There is only chaos to the order of the photos (what I get for trying to combine his and mine). Steve is a recovering weekend warrior style rider who is discovering the virtue of using the LCG (lowest common gear) with both honor and joy. At the end of our first day of riding he proclaimed That was the best and longest day of mountain biking I've ever had! Uh oh. Watch out, trails! After all the creek crossings, my left platform pedal was creaking again. H. Those bearings just aren't very sealed. Good thing the VP Vice are working out great! It was a grand trip and great to have a friend along (all my previous bikepacking adventures have been either solo or with some or all of my family). I did let him sleep in till 7:30 though, as it is quieter when he's sleeping. We introverts need our quiet time. Grin. http://www.flickr.com/photos/32311885@N07/sets/72157635975329866/ With abandon, Patrick *www.MindYourHeadCoop.org* *www.OurHolyConception.org* -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Anybody put a Large Saddlesack on top of Sackville Panniers?
I've been thinking about putting either Sackville Panniers or Frost River Panniers on my Nitto Big Back Rack and then putting the large saddlesack on top of it. I think I've seen this setup before and it would work for me in my role of chief load carrier for the family camping trips. I thought I could get away with just the saddlesack and a front shopsack and front panniers, towing a BOB trailer, but I think I need a little more space. I think the Carsick Panniers look excellent and I'd like to replace my Maddens with them up front. I love the saddlesack and don't want to give that up at all. I have all my tools where I want them and I can answer my phone while riding. The zip pockets that face the rider are very helpful. It seems like where one zip ties the saddlesack to the rack, through the slots on the bottom, they could be strapped to either of the panniers I mentioned above. However, I was wondering how much they would interfere with loading the bags up due to the overhang of the saddlesack? Anybody have any thoughts or experience? We plan on doing a tour of Cambodia this summer and down the Pacific Coast the following year. The wife and six year old with be on a tandem and my 10 year old is on his own bike with panniers. My wife has enough on her plate just negotiating the youngster and her reluctant pedaling without bothering with luggage. Kip Otteson Chiang Mai, Thailand -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Anybody put a Large Saddlesack on top of Sackville Panniers?
Thanks, Tom. I was afraid of that type of inconvenience. I appreciate the post and info. Yes, I need to post photos. Now if only I can find a camera and keep it charged! The bane of my life. On Tuesday, September 24, 2013 7:30:49 PM UTC+7, Tom Harrop wrote: Hi Kip, I haven't tried that specific combo, but I have used Ortlieb panniers on a Tubus rear rack, with my large SaddleSack sitting on top. It worked fine in terms of everything being securely attached etc., but there was zero access to the contents of the panniers without removing the SaddleSack, so it was a matter of loading the panniers, attaching them to the bike, then attaching the SaddleSack. From memory it was possible, if a bit fiddly, to attach or remove the panniers with the SaddleSack already on the rack, but I guess that wouldn't work with Riv-style panniers. Sounds like you've got some great trips planned, don't forget to post some photos! Tom Germany. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Anybody put a Large Saddlesack on top of Sackville Panniers?
Deacon, thanks for the pics. My question was answered perfectly! I think that you're bike is the one I saw in some previous pics. You did that great tour with your daughter, if memory serves. I still plan on the Riv Rendevous in Colorado in two years time. It will be excellent to see your rig in person. Take care. Kip On Tuesday, September 24, 2013 7:55:29 PM UTC+7, Deacon Patrick wrote: Oops. Meant to add this in my previous post. Pics of the mounting: http://www.flickr.com/photos/32311885@N07/sets/72157634073536262/ With abandon, Patrick On Tuesday, September 24, 2013 6:54:42 AM UTC-6, Deacon Patrick wrote: Hey Kip, Yes. See here: http://www.flickr.com/photos/32311885@N07/9725707307/. Does it limit access? A bit, but not practicably. As the Large Saddlesack sags its wings, I have to lift it up to get things in and out, but that's not much of a bother, and when I use them, I only put stuff in them that I'll need once at my campsite. Everything I need on the trail is in the Saddlesack. Mounting: I use Irish straps (the short ones) to 1) anchor the panniers to the front of the rack; 2) Anchor the front and back of the Saddlesack to the rack, threading the strap through the leather of the Saddlesack then through the gap in the panniers and their top and under the rack. Once tightened, I've never had to tighten them on a trip, but they all easily come off. I don't know, but imagine the irish straps are easier than zip ties. Enjoy your family trips! With abandon, Patrick On Tuesday, September 24, 2013 5:14:04 AM UTC-6, Kip Otteson wrote: I've been thinking about putting either Sackville Panniers or Frost River Panniers on my Nitto Big Back Rack and then putting the large saddlesack on top of it. I think I've seen this setup before and it would work for me in my role of chief load carrier for the family camping trips. I thought I could get away with just the saddlesack and a front shopsack and front panniers, towing a BOB trailer, but I think I need a little more space. I think the Carsick Panniers look excellent and I'd like to replace my Maddens with them up front. I love the saddlesack and don't want to give that up at all. I have all my tools where I want them and I can answer my phone while riding. The zip pockets that face the rider are very helpful. It seems like where one zip ties the saddlesack to the rack, through the slots on the bottom, they could be strapped to either of the panniers I mentioned above. However, I was wondering how much they would interfere with loading the bags up due to the overhang of the saddlesack? Anybody have any thoughts or experience? We plan on doing a tour of Cambodia this summer and down the Pacific Coast the following year. The wife and six year old with be on a tandem and my 10 year old is on his own bike with panniers. My wife has enough on her plate just negotiating the youngster and her reluctant pedaling without bothering with luggage. Kip Otteson Chiang Mai, Thailand -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: Anybody put a Large Saddlesack on top of Sackville Panniers?
Good tip on the floor. I didn't think of that. I'm thinking more and more of going with the Frost River panniers. They seem really nice and a less expensive option. On Wed, Sep 25, 2013 at 4:25 AM, Bill Lindsay tapebu...@gmail.com wrote: Kip Remember that the floor stiffener on your Saddlesack Large is removable. Maybe you don't need the stiffener when the Saddlesack is resting on top of the Toursacks, and without the stiffener, lifting the Saddlesack off of a pannier for access would be a little easier. The Saddlesack would be more like a blob that you could maneuver out of your way. When you're done, just velcro the floor back in. It might be worth a try. :-) On Tuesday, September 24, 2013 2:20:55 PM UTC-7, Kip Otteson wrote: Thanks, Tom. I was afraid of that type of inconvenience. I appreciate the post and info. Yes, I need to post photos. Now if only I can find a camera and keep it charged! The bane of my life. On Tuesday, September 24, 2013 7:30:49 PM UTC+7, Tom Harrop wrote: Hi Kip, I haven't tried that specific combo, but I have used Ortlieb panniers on a Tubus rear rack, with my large SaddleSack sitting on top. It worked fine in terms of everything being securely attached etc., but there was zero access to the contents of the panniers without removing the SaddleSack, so it was a matter of loading the panniers, attaching them to the bike, then attaching the SaddleSack. From memory it was possible, if a bit fiddly, to attach or remove the panniers with the SaddleSack already on the rack, but I guess that wouldn't work with Riv-style panniers. Sounds like you've got some great trips planned, don't forget to post some photos! Tom Germany. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this topic, visit https://groups.google.com/d/topic/rbw-owners-bunch/2fTi202OBpI/unsubscribe . To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Great hookup with fellow Riv geek in Denver
Yes, the spot is epic for riding. We are finally getting to enjoy the area as the building of the place is largely done. I wanted to clear up that we are going to be gone overseas for two years and then we'd like to do a hookup at the place. It seems like there is interest in the idea of a Colorado ride and our place was purposely located near Denver. We like to say it's an hour and fifteen minutes from downtown and we can still see the Milky Way. We are gone almost the whole year, but in a couple of years we plan to take a year off and just be in the mountains. That being said we are going to be planning some tours in Thailand and if anybody wants in they are welcome. We are in Chiang Mai and there is a small Riv community there. We are planning trips to Laos and Cambodia in the coming year and if you are interested there is always room and logistical support. Kip On Friday, July 26, 2013 1:18:45 PM UTC-6, Deacon Patrick wrote: Grand spot for a cabin! Kenosha Pass is between section 4 (closed to bikes due to Lost Creek Wilderness) and 5 (open to bikes). We've been eying section 5 as a possibility for a bikepacking trip as some point. It's also a great, semi-central meet point from Denver and Colorado Springs that is in the mountains. Thank you for the offer of a place to stay. I'd likely not be able to stay (or even enter) your home due to my wimpy brain and scents, but could possibly camp if there is land for that and it is quiet (as in the only sounds are nature, not roads). Also, Kenosha Pass is only 2 hours away from our home, so wouldn't necessarily need to overnight except for the bikepacking part. Hm. Something like this would really push my risk factor. I'll need to evaluate what makes sense. Thanks for getting to play with the idea! Any other Coloradans interested in something? With abandon, Patrick On Friday, July 26, 2013 12:53:59 PM UTC-6, Kip Otteson wrote: Hey, Patrick, I don't know about being near section 3. We are just below Kenosha Pass in the valley. I think it'd work out pretty well. I have a family too and we have plenty of room. I loved your post about touring with your daughter. We tour with our family in Thailand. I'll try to post pics when I can. Kip On Friday, July 26, 2013 10:15:39 AM UTC-6, Deacon Patrick wrote: I meant to ask, you near section 3 of the CT? That is a good one for bikepacking. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Great hookup with fellow Riv geek in Denver
Had a great time meeting up with Mike (I don't know his last name) and his wife Melody in Arvada. I found them through Bilenky bikes as I was looking to set up my in-laws up with a Viewpoint tandem. When I looked in his garage and saw a Quickbeam I knew I'd met a kindred spirit. Little did I know that he had a treasure trove in the basement. Mike said he'd seen my posts about Thailand from this group and we talked about a bike trip to SE Asia. FYI, you guys are always welcome to Chiang Mai for a great bit of riding. I also have a house off the Colorado Trail in Jefferson, CO and we are here in July most years. Once again, you are always welcome to the house. We have plenty of room. Last time a made an order at Riv I threw down the gauntlet and said that Jefferson, CO was the S24O capital of the world. Dave said, Prove it. I'd like to propose a Colorado Riv Rendevous in the future where we can get together for a weekend of riding, campfires, and cooking. I think it might be in order to get Grant out of the Bay area for this one. We are taking a sabbatical in two years time when we'll be able to host in September. That's the best time of the year to see the color changing in the aspen groves right by the house. Thanks again for being an inspiring group of folks. Kip Otteson Chiang Mai, Thailand and currently Jefferson, CO (our number is 719-836-7272) email is very spotty in the sticks. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Great hookup with fellow Riv geek in Denver
Hey, Patrick, I don't know about being near section 3. We are just below Kenosha Pass in the valley. I think it'd work out pretty well. I have a family too and we have plenty of room. I loved your post about touring with your daughter. We tour with our family in Thailand. I'll try to post pics when I can. Kip On Friday, July 26, 2013 10:15:39 AM UTC-6, Deacon Patrick wrote: I meant to ask, you near section 3 of the CT? That is a good one for bikepacking. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Coral on my head
I'm wearing it in Thailand believe it or not. It's not as hot as you'd imagine. It is a sweat bucket but the liner is way easier to clean than all the small pads in the coral one. I thought the same thing when I bought it, as far as all the heat, but it isn't bad. My wife and kid have one too and they don't complain either. On Tuesday, September 4, 2012 5:22:50 AM UTC+7, Kip Otteson wrote: I had a student comment about bike helmets and he told me that he didn't like all the helmets that looked like coral on people's heads. I don't really like them either and this summer I bought a new helmet and I'm very pleased with it. It's a Bern Watts and it is a much more substantial helmet than the old Giro Atmos it replaced. It has a built in visor that is very effective at blocking sun and rain. The visor is actually like a shorty bill cap. Very cool. If you are looking for a new helmet I think this one is right up the Rivish alley. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/ojAQSNhO4C4J. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Coral on my head
I had a student comment about bike helmets and he told me that he didn't like all the helmets that looked like coral on people's heads. I don't really like them either and this summer I bought a new helmet and I'm very pleased with it. It's a Bern Watts and it is a much more substantial helmet than the old Giro Atmos it replaced. It has a built in visor that is very effective at blocking sun and rain. The visor is actually like a shorty bill cap. Very cool. If you are looking for a new helmet I think this one is right up the Rivish alley. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/PH-gb32KrjAJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] sackville large mounted on the front?
Has anybody mounted a Sackville Large on the front of their bike? I have one on the back mounted on a Nitto Big Rear Rack and I have an R14 on the front with a huge basket on it. With the big back rack I can't use the BOB trailer. It interferes with the swingarm. I was wondering if I mounted the Sackville on the front where I'd put the loops designed for the Brooks' saddle? I guess I could put them on the bars with an Irish strap or something. Do I even need to connect those straps or are the four on the bottom of the bag enough? Also, do people have experience with the Sackville panniers on an R14? Is that enough rack to support them? Thanks. Kip Otteson -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/0Xyke_cMQMUJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] The Long Walk
Hey, I just wanted to get this off my chest regarding The Long Walk. The reason I'm writing this here is because Riv sells the book and I feel like this is my peer group and we share the same interests. For those of you that don't know The Long Walk is a book written by a guy that escaped a Soviet concentration camp and made an epic trek to India. I read the book in 2001 and kind of freaked out about it. I got the number for a Richard Rawicz in England from the internet and I called him. I asked him if he was related to Slavomir Rawicz and he said that it was his dad. I told him I read the book and was amazed by the story and how moving it was to me. He asked if I wanted his dad's phone number. I couldn't believe he was still alive. I called up Slavomir and I asked him if I could chat with him about the book. He said that he didn't like talking on the phone so I asked him if I could come and visit him. He said yes and to pop over. I told him I was calling from Colorado and that I was a school teacher and I could come over during Christmas. He said that Christmas would be fine. This was in September. Anyway, I booked my ticket for England. I flew to London, rented a car, figured out how to drive on the wrong side of the road on the way to Nottingham. I drove to Slavomir's house and I brought him a white Stetson hat and I brought his wife a nice Pendleton blanket. After I saw how cold it was in their house I realized the blanket was an appropriate gift. The cowboy hat was a suggestion of his son, Richard. They love Wild West stuff in England. I spent two days in Nottingham with Mr. Rawicz. I was doing research for a history project and an adventure piece I was working on. I was working to recreate the Long Walk on a bicycle. I wanted to ride the route he sketched in the book and somehow connect with a generation of people that I greatly admire. In my research I contacted the Royal Air Force to get documentation about Rawicz' flight school he outlines in the book. They said they had no records. I contacted the Polish Army and looked into their records for him. No records. I contacted the Gulag Survivor's Society and they said they indeed were aware of the claims regarding a Camp 303 but that it didn't exist. It became clear to me that the story was fishy. I felt terrible about having a relationship with this cool guy but not believing his story. I cut off communication with the family and I dropped the project. I didn't want to have to question the story's legitimacy. When he described the story to me he was in tears. He obviously experienced something very real. I just recently read the wikipedia info on the book and the BBC apparently did a expose in 2006. Anyway, it's a bummer that the story isn't true. I felt bad the same way I felt when I found out the 3 Cups of Tea story was also fabricated. Not to be a downer, but I never spilled the beans about The Long Walk because I liked the Rawicz family so much. So there it is. Off the chest. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/-RyxrMNLLXYJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Family vacation by train and bike
Excellent post. Nothing better than non-epic family day rides. I think riding with the kids always creates some epic moments. Inspirational. On Monday, August 20, 2012 10:47:27 PM UTC+7, Andy Smitty Schmidt wrote: The wife, kids and I spent the last week tooling around Seattle. We took advantage of the bike racks on Amtrak's Cascades line and brought Homer and Betty along. Mileages were low and we were mostly going to familiar places around town like friends' houses, parks or favorite eateries, so it wasn't necessarily the most spectacular of bicycle adventures. Despite the non-epic nature of the trip, the whole family had a blast. Visiting our old turf and seeing friends is always a good time, and doing it door to door by Rivendell and train is even more fun. Pics prove that it doesn't always rain in Seattlehttp://www.flickr.com/photos/15966859@N07/sets/72157631151547624/ --Andy -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/AH_ztLYYHssJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: First Asian S24O?
Great trip, Gernot. Thanks for putting up the pics. Whenever I do one of these things I always think, Why don't I do this more often? Let's do it again soon. Got to say that the Hennessey Hammock is excellent for jungle camping. No mozzie bites at all! Kip On Oct 24, 5:43 pm, Earl Grey earlg...@gmail.com wrote: Kip Paul Dave and I went out on our first S24O to celebrate Paul's birthday: Two Sams, a Bomba and a Heron: http://www.flickr.com/photos/gernothuber/ Write-up to follow when my son stops crying. Cheers, Gernot -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: First Asian S24O?
Patrick, the girl on the big dummy is my little girl, Kami! She is the best! Kip Otteson On Oct 24, 9:52 pm, PATRICK MOORE bertin...@gmail.com wrote: Four Rivs, six top tubes! I like the photo of the little girl with her bike at the tail end of the Big Dummy. On Mon, Oct 24, 2011 at 4:43 AM, Earl Grey earlg...@gmail.com wrote: Kip Paul Dave and I went out on our first S24O to celebrate Paul's birthday: Two Sams, a Bomba and a Heron: http://www.flickr.com/photos/gernothuber/ Write-up to follow when my son stops crying. Cheers, Gernot -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- Patrick Moore Albuquerque, NM For professional resumes, contact Patrick Moore, ACRWhttp://resumespecialties.com/index.html -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Which retro derailleur for a Bombadil?
Just curious about your opinions. I've looked a little on eBay and I've found many Suntour XC Pro and XC Expert derailleurs and thumb shifters there. By many I mean 5 or so. I remember back in the day, 1988/89, that friends that were really into mountain biking loved the Suntour stuff. I currently have a Nooodle bar on the Bombadil and am thinking about moving my current dirt drop bar setup to my wife's Heron and going with a Bullmoose Bar. I'd put the thumb shifters on the new set up and get rid of my squeaky Deore derailleur in the process. I saw the XT rear for sale on the list and I'd buy it today, but I was wondering what you guys/gals thought? I want to get a 7 speed rear wheel built up by Riv so that would be the wheel it would work with. If I put the derailleur on my bike right now (9 speed) would it work if I just use friction mode? Thanks for your insight and opinions. Kip Otteson Chiang Mai, Thailand -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: FS: Wool Jerseys
Are they small larges? You know what I mean? On Jan 21, 11:18 am, Clayton Scott clayton...@gmail.com wrote: All are mens size large.On Thu, Jan 20, 2011 at 8:17 PM, Clayton Scott clayton...@gmail.com wrote: Hi All, Have 3 Portland/Oregon Cyclewear jerseys for sale. All of them in top shape. No holes. Tried on once. 2x short sleeve main color green with black stripe - $28 each 1x long sleeve main color black with white stripe - $38 Thanks, Clayton -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Rivendell Custom
Wow, that is such a nice looking bike. No way could I restrain myself. On Sep 14, 11:41 pm, Jeff newbe...@mail.utexas.edu wrote: Mark at RBW just sent me these pictures of my new frame, just in from JB's paint shop. It's shipping to Austin today. The frame is set up for Paul Racers and a VO rando rack. The color is Baffin Blue. I asked for the same geometry as my Heron randonneur (72 seat angle, 73 head tube angle, 80mm bottom bracket drop) and left the rest of the details to Grant. The plan is build up this bike after I get back from PBP next August, but I may have trouble restraining myself. I'll probably have to spring for a Nitto lugged quill. It'll end up looking similar to the Heron, but probably with hammered Honjo fenders. Enjoy:http://www.flickr.com/photos/19365...@n02/ Jeff -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Watch those kickstand plates! and question about S and S couplers
I noticed yesterday that my kickstand was sitting at a very awkward angle. I moved it a little and I could see that my kickstand plate was ripping off of my frame. I have a Pletscher double kickstand on the Bombadil and I think that when it was parked at school someone sat on it and bent it all up. Bummer deal. I took off the kickstand and now am really old-new school with a bike I have to lean up against things, like in the old days. I was worried that the chainstays would be hammered as well but they look fine. I'll have to wait till I'm back in the states to get it fixed properly. BTW - I thought that if I was going to get the frame fixed I'd be looking at sending it to Bilenky Bike Works and getting S and S couplers fitted for a more travel friendly machine. Anybody out there experienced converting a frame to a travel bike? Kip Otteson Chiang Mai, Thailand -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] In praise of versatility
I love my Bombadil's versatility. I don't know how a do-all bike should feel but this one can ride the trails and the street seamlessly. I don't think I'll be hucking rock gardens as I did with the knobbies and no fenders, but this setup still will allow me to ride some reasonable dirt. I really like how the Schwalbe Fatties are rolling along. However, they are very heavy! I feel like this bike is a green Hummer type thing. Just what I wanted. On a side note...am I missing a bunch by not having a more roadish Riv? http://www.flickr.com/photos/25150...@n08/4935360348/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Bombadil ride video
Nice video. I like the shots of looking down at the bullmoose bars and your shifting setup. I'd like to do that someday to my Bomba. Recently I put an R14 on the front and a Nitto Big Rear on the rear. It is looking more like an expedition tourer all the time. I also put on some VO stainless fenders. Very cool. They just clear the Schwalbe Fatties. Was your vid shot in California? Kip On Aug 30, 10:46 am, William tapebu...@gmail.com wrote: I've been having fun playing around with my ultra-compact video recorder, and with iMovie. This is a little tribute video to my very beloved Bombadil. Also, from a filmmaking standpoint, I attempted to make my vanilla little local mixed terrain loop out my front door look far more 'extreme' than it really is through song-selection. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ybugg7u5UkM -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Child seat recommendations?
We have a Bobike Maxi on our Yuba and it works very well for our nearly 3 year old. I'd recommend it. I had a bamboo basket thing on the back for a while and I thought it was a steal at 3 bucks. My wife was riding behind me and she started screaming at me to stop because my daughter was standing up no hands in the thing. The ability to strap her down is a plus. We also have a Burley trailer. If I was riding in traffic I'd go with the child seat as it's not so obtrusive. If I was mountain biking (mellow stuff mind you) I'd put the kid in a trailer. I have rolled it with her in it (going slowly over a root!) and she was laughing. That wouldn't have happened if she was in a child seat. I think I'm coming off as a crazy parent herewell I love my kids and I think about their safety all the time. Bobike Maxi works very well. Kip On Mar 20, 1:09 am, stevep33 steve...@gmail.com wrote: Nice! That looks like fun. On Mar 19, 1:47 pm, Esteban proto...@gmail.com wrote: Plus, they see everything and you can talk... whispering into their ear and pointing out sights to be seen. With my daughter in the Bobike, our rides along the San Diego River are full of conversations of sea birds, the tides, the moon, salt marsh, fish, favorite colors, etc. Its truly wonderful. She's right there and can see everything and feel everything. Eventually, when our 7 month old is ready for the Mini, the 4 year old will go on the back, likely on a Bobike Jr. I'll miss her up there! I mean, does it get any better than this? http://www.flickr.com/photos/25671...@n02/395667/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] FS Pass and Stow Rack
I'm looking to trade in the Pass and Stow for a Nitto High Rider. The porteur look is cool but I want something a little lighter up front and something that will possibly allow the forks to absorb more shock up front. The rack is silver and I have the light mount for it in Colorado. I wouldn't be able to ship it until this summer when I come home to Colorado in July but I will bring it home from Thailand if someone is interested. It was new last year and is a MUSA, Bay Area product all the way. It's the large size and would work on a 650/700 frame. Cheers. Kip Otteson -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: FS Pass and Stow Rack
A little slow on the uptake todayhome sick. I'd like to cover the cost of the hi rider or come close to it. The rack was 300 bucks and I'd take 175 with the light rack. Maybe a lil' less. On Mar 17, 2:47 pm, Kip Otteson kip.otte...@gmail.com wrote: I'm looking to trade in the Pass and Stow for a Nitto High Rider. The porteur look is cool but I want something a little lighter up front and something that will possibly allow the forks to absorb more shock up front. The rack is silver and I have the light mount for it in Colorado. I wouldn't be able to ship it until this summer when I come home to Colorado in July but I will bring it home from Thailand if someone is interested. It was new last year and is a MUSA, Bay Area product all the way. It's the large size and would work on a 650/700 frame. Cheers. Kip Otteson -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: FS Pass and Stow Rack
Sold and thanks for the interest. Kip On Mar 17, 2:52 pm, Kip Otteson kip.otte...@gmail.com wrote: A little slow on the uptake todayhome sick. I'd like to cover the cost of the hi rider or come close to it. The rack was 300 bucks and I'd take 175 with the light rack. Maybe a lil' less. On Mar 17, 2:47 pm, Kip Otteson kip.otte...@gmail.com wrote: I'm looking to trade in the Pass and Stow for a Nitto High Rider. The porteur look is cool but I want something a little lighter up front and something that will possibly allow the forks to absorb more shock up front. The rack is silver and I have the light mount for it in Colorado. I wouldn't be able to ship it until this summer when I come home to Colorado in July but I will bring it home from Thailand if someone is interested. It was new last year and is a MUSA, Bay Area product all the way. It's the large size and would work on a 650/700 frame. Cheers. Kip Otteson -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] 7 months car free
Just wanted to post thoughts about being 7 months and car free. I'm liking my past car use to addiction and it was truly that. I used to commute for 75 miles on a round trip to work. The drive took between 26 minutes and hours depending on the weather, accidents, road kill, etc. The Colorado mountains are beautiful, but if you have a daily job it's a killer. You need a reliable car that is warm which means it's most likely expensive and requires payments. In the winter we had to walk two miles to the road to get to our car towing our son in a sled with the trash. Headlights at 5 am in blowing snow. All to get to work in our car. Beautiful at times but not sustainable. Moving to Thailand was driven by our desire to reduce our commute time with the ability to do it our bikes. We now ride five minutes to work with the kids. I can take my kids on our Yuba Mundo and my wife rides her Heron. We wake up at a reasonable hour, have our morning coffee/ chat, get the kids up and roll. Easy. With our bikes we now can travel with the family anywhere within 15 km with no problems. We feel better physically. We eat what we want without guilt. I'm not consistently pissed/stressed like I was before. No worries about mechanical difficulties because I can fix most things on the fly. Not constantly looking out for cops because I'm speeding because I'm late. Just much less stress. Traffic is heavy here and we often arrive just 5 minutes behind our friends who drove, had to fight traffic, had to find a parking spot, etc. I used to call myself a cyclist, but in America it was just posturing. The most I could reasonably fit in was two rides a week and many of those I drove to because of time restrictions. I had the clothes and the gear but if I wanted a label I should have called myself a driver. I feel like a real cyclist now as I get places on my bike under my own power. No car with a roof rack. No car. Kip Otteson Chiang Mai, Thailand -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Rivendell's Mystery Item?
Sock garters. On Mar 6, 11:02 am, R Gonet richard.go...@earthlink.net wrote: Amazing that merkins, at least in this string, are not OT. Good work. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Exercises for lazy people
I've been doing the grok stretch for about 6 months now whenever I remember. I was struck by the simplicity and lack of commitment it took. I'm a horrible stretcher. I never do it and when I do it's usually to show people how inflexible I am. They say,No reallytry to touch your toes. Anyway, my friend Gernot is a yoga instructor and I tried it with him for the first time last week. I don't know if I can commit to doing yoga regularly, but I learned about the Five Tibetan Rites. Some guy in the yoga class said that he did it for 3 months before he attempted a yoga class and it really helped his strength and flexibility. I looked it up on wikipedia and it seems like it's the grok stretch of yoga. You just learn five moves and repeat them. I'm going to check it out for one month and give an update regarding my flexibility. I don't know if my gray hair will disappear, as it is claimed, but I'll let you know. Kip Otteson -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Touring set up on Bombadil
Just set up the Bombadil for a road tour. I took off the Pacenti Quasi Motos and put on the Col de La Vies. I put the fenders back on and also the Pass and Stow rack with basket. The large Sackville does fit perfectly and is extremely functional. I love the Noodles with thumbies and interrupter levers. Cool setup. Gernot suggested the bell placement which works very well. We will send pics from our S24O tomorrow. http://www.flickr.com/photos/kimpanzee/4374299287/ Kip -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: New bars for Bombadil
I think I've finally just admitted to myself that I like drops better. I have two stache bars in my garage testifying to this fact. With the drops the Bomba is the most comfortable bike I've ever ridden. I finally have some pics here of the new bar set-up. http://www.flickr.com/photos/kimpanzee/sets/72157623295502989/ I like the brown tape and black frame. To me it really matches the Sackville bag and it just feels right. Kip On Feb 11, 3:23 am, William tapebu...@gmail.com wrote: I'm hoping to do a Bomba build this year. In the interest of making it different enough from my Hillborne to justify buying it, I was planning on using moustache bars. I had an Orange XO-1 back in the day, and had both moustache and drop bars set up so I could do a quick switch. I ended up using the drop bars 95% of the time. Should I just admit to myself and the world that drop bars are just better and plan my Bomba build with drops? Or should I maintain an open mind and give the 'stache another crack at it? On Feb 9, 6:46 pm, Earl Grey earlg...@gmail.com wrote: Here are a few (lousy) pics. Maybe Kip can provide a proper after pic (it had gotten rather late, so pics were even less of a priority). http://www.flickr.com/photos/25150...@n08/ Cheers, Gernot On Feb 9, 10:18 pm, Mike mjawn...@gmail.com wrote: Yes, pictures please! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] New bars for Bombadil
I just got a package from Rivendell in Thailand. It's a big deal when you are overseas and you get new, high quality gear. My friend, Gernot (the other member of the Chiang Mai Rivendell Club), brought it from his recent trip to the states. At Gernot's house we replaced the moustache bars with some 46 cm Noodles with Paul Thumbies and interrupter levers. For a rank amateur like me it was a fun, challenging learning process. Much different than my surfing days, doing bike stuff is, or can be in this case, without ego. It's refreshing to be a part of a group that doesn't create outsiders but welcomes newcomers. The bars felt wonderful on the ride home. Shifting reminded me of my early mountain bike days, and the interrupter levers did the job. I feel like the bike was made for fat tires and drops. Kip Otteson -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Warm Showers website
I might be the last person in the community to know about this but the website warmshowers.org is really worth checking out. When I was a member of the BMW Motorcycle Owners Association they published a book every year that listed people that could help you out on the road with bike trouble, put you up for the night, etc. This is a similar set-up for folks on bicycle tours. The numbers of members in distant countries is incredible. If you are planning a tour it's worth your while. Cheers. Kip Otteson -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: The Flying Pup Tent
I have one of those! It looks like a joke (to an American) but it really works. When I first used it I didn't have fenders. I found out quickly that it's a mud trap without them. With fenders it's a very functional piece of clothing. In the rainy season in Thailand I always have mine rolled up in the Carradice. On Jan 19, 12:36 pm, Eric Norris campyonly...@me.com wrote: Just had to share this: http://www.flickr.com/photos/35176...@n03/4286289085/ My wife has threatened to start packing (my bags, not hers) if I wear this in public when we're together. --Eric campyonly...@me.comwww.campyonly.comwww.wheelsnorth.org -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Question about women's riding clothes (not for me)
My wife has a Heron I bought for her for a tour in Ireland about 12 years ago. She is just starting to get into the idea of touring as a family event. The latest 2 day tour with a stay in a nice guesthouse sealed the deal. I'm so excited she's finally getting with the program! I buy her all of her cycling gear. The last thing I bought her was a Terry cycling skort thing. It works well and she likes it but I want to get something much less involved. No built in liner, etc. She also doesn't like lycra or how it looks. Anyway, it seems like all the Riv gear is oriented towards men. Anybody know of Musa type stuff that is made for women? I'll get her going on some wool tops from Riv, but the bottoms are not as flattering. Anyone's wives or girlfriends have any recommendations? She's not a fashion person at all, but the more I can get her stuff that works the more she'll ride. Thanks. Kip Otteson -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Lycra-clad naysayers
Hey, Doug. They were shuttled to the top and the Bomba did climb like a goat compared to the suspension bikes. I had a lot of time to check out the others bikes and the pogoing action of a rear suspension bike is something to behold. I know that there are claims that they are just as efficient as a rigid bike but I don't buy it. On Jan 2, 12:59 am, doug peterson dougpn...@cox.net wrote: Kip: Now you've done it - sent out a blanket invitation to a group that has a high possibility of taking you up on it. Great report. The Bomba probably climbed a whole lot better than the tourists double suspension rides. Come to think of it, maybe they were shuttled to the top, so they could ride down? Hah! dougP On Jan 1, 7:26 am, newenglandbike matthiasbe...@gmail.com wrote: On Jan 1, 9:50 am, MichaelH mhech...@gmail.com wrote: At the risk of sounding like a tourist here, what is it with the double top tube anyway? If you really are asking, it makes the frames stronger. The lower tube makes more of a triangle with the rest of the frame: http://www.rivbike.com/products/show/bombadil/50-640 Plus it looks cool. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Lycra-clad naysayers
Went on an epic (for me) off-road ride on the Bomba yesterday. It was in the hills behind Chiang Mai. I started the day with a donut at Dunkin Donuts and saw some lycra-clad men with bikes having a bite inside. I pulled up and they started asking about the bike. Why the double top tube? What's up with the moustache bars? Why don't you ride clipless? What's in the huge bag on the back? Isn't that position too upright? Etc. You could tell they were doubting the bike's abilities...not to mention mine when I didn't have one piece of lycra on. I told them where I was riding and they rolled their eyes at my lack of suspension and chuckled a Good luck! as I left the eatery. I rode with another group of teachers and we climbed I don't know how many vertical feet of unbelievable dirt road. We wound past endless jungle where at any moment I thought Indiana Jones would appear. We hit one fork and a teacher not acquainted with Rivendell said that the choices looked to him to be between Mordor and Isengard. It was that surreal in this area. We climbed and climbed and came to a Hmong village where we noticed lots of activity taking place. We pulled in and quickly realized what we were witnessing. It was a Japanese Cherry Blossom bloom season. About 100 people were crawling out of cars and taking photos. It was like a scene out of a Kung Fu movie. It was very satisfying having rode there. We left the village and topped out the ride a wonderful coffee house overlooking the blossom spectacle. Once again I felt a little out of place. About 20 foreigners were having coffee wearing full downhill body armor. I thought WTF and wondered where they were riding. They were going down the road we just rode up. Well, they understood the Bombadil even less than the dudes at the donut shop. Needless to say we rode the same extreme downhill ride promised to the tourists. I didn't go down once. My cantis worked just fine. My saddlebag didn't throw my balance over the roots.My 2.0 tires (narrow for these riders) were superb. Summation, I loved the ride. The Bombadil is so versatile and beautiful I am excited to ride anywhere on it. When I woke up for the ride I had to take off my basket and front rack and take off the large Sackville bag that I had on for a two day tour with the wife that took place earlier in the week. I carried most of the gear and the bike rode beautifully then, as well. This bike really undercuts expectations and I dig that. Anyone that wants to ride in Chiang Mai or stay at my house and travel from here is welcome. You won't be disappointed. Kip Otteson Chiang Mai, Thailand -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Yuba cargo bike pics
Yes, the xtracycle accessories are wonderful. But Yuba is working on it and I can say having had an xtracycle that the Yuba is in a whole different league. There is no frame flex at all. With the xtracycle I'd have to be careful about what I put on it and how fast I took bump, etc. The Yuba has no flex and I've taken speedbumbs with 300 lbs. with narry a shimmy. The next thing for it is the Down Low Glow. On Dec 15, 9:38 pm, Doug Van Cleve dvancl...@gmail.com wrote: Nice, love an orange bike :^). The redesigned Yuba is pretty impressive, something like 15lbs. lighter than the original and better equipped. I wish it was (more) compatible with Xtracycle stuff... Doug On Tuesday, December 15, 2009, Kip Otteson kip.otte...@gmail.com wrote: This post is only for those who get excited by using bikes as trucks or SUVs. I love this bike. The Yuba Mundo is a wonderful machine for anyone with a grand laying around. The Riv connection are the John's Irish Straps holding stuff down. (I love those things.) http://www.flickr.com/photos/39159...@n08/sets/72157623004914628/ In Thailand, where people carry ridiculous loads on all sorts of contraptions, we got our share of stares on the main road. My son and I dropped off the gate at the organic garden we are building at our school. Not a professional photographer or writer, just a dad who digs doing bike stuff with his son, even if it's not on our Rivendells. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Yuba cargo bike pics
This post is only for those who get excited by using bikes as trucks or SUVs. I love this bike. The Yuba Mundo is a wonderful machine for anyone with a grand laying around. The Riv connection are the John's Irish Straps holding stuff down. (I love those things.) http://www.flickr.com/photos/39159...@n08/sets/72157623004914628/ In Thailand, where people carry ridiculous loads on all sorts of contraptions, we got our share of stares on the main road. My son and I dropped off the gate at the organic garden we are building at our school. Not a professional photographer or writer, just a dad who digs doing bike stuff with his son, even if it's not on our Rivendells. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Glue for cork grips
I'm getting a Yuba Mundo bike and I'd like to put some cork grips on it. Is there any glue that anybody really recommends for this job? I'll put some pics up when the bike is done. Thanks. Kip Otteson -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Riv frames 2010
Sign me up for a Simpleone. I LOVE my Bombadil but I'm looking for something really simple to have for the town. Like always I wait to see the colors they choose. Always tasteful, but I'm still a sucker for the Saluki butterscotch color. Kip Otteson On Nov 28, 9:49 pm, Mike mjawn...@gmail.com wrote: So I read through the latest Rivendell update email and am excited about the changes to existing frames and new frames for 2010. About a week and a half ago when there was that scratched Sam Hillborne for $700 on their website I called to order it. The price was good and I had the cash available. I've got most of the parts to build it up and have been wanting something a little heavier duty than my Hilsen for touring and bike camping. I spoke with Keven and he basically talked me out of the SH frame advising that I wait a few months for the new improved Hillbornes with double TTs. Some things Keven mentioned to me that aren't in Grant's email were that besides having double TTs the TT length would be a tad shorter and the tire clearance would be even more generous. Grant doesn't allude to those changes in the email but I hope they're true. I'll most likely hold off a little bit before I pull the trigger. I want to know more about the Taiwanese Atlantis'--price, geometry, and ETA. The Simpleone sounds great too. 2010 is looking good. --mike -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Dissect this quote from Grant
I don't know what it is but most likely I'll have to convince my wife 1.) I need one and 2.) we have the money. On Oct 24, 10:00 am, Bill Connell bconn...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Oct 23, 2009 at 9:42 PM, Weird Harold alanpcr...@yahoo.com wrote: I was reading an interview with Grant on Bike Radar and saw this: There are some things I want to do, and one thing in particular that I want to do that will be terribly misunderstood by just about everybody with an internet connection and a smattering of bike knowledge and historical perspective. Compared to anything Rivendell has done in the past, it's way, way out there and sounds, or might sound, inconsistent and off the deep end. Anyone have any idea what he's talking about? Maybe the 603 BSD wheel? That's the wackiest idea i've seen from him that hasn't been 'done' yet. Other than that, who knows - my vote is for a bike trailer version of the Scamp camper. -- Bill Connell St. Paul, MN --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: Bombadil on the road
http://www.flickr.com/photos/39159...@n08/sets/72157622644709288/ Here are some shots of another ride in the area called Doi Suthep. It's the ride to a monastery that overlooks Chiang Mai. Wonderful stuff. On Oct 16, 12:59 am, newenglandbike matthiasbe...@gmail.com wrote: Wow, that uphillrideyou describe in Thailand sounds spectacular. I also have had great success on theroadwith theBombadil. I have the Schwalbe fatty (650b) tires on it and they're terrific on pavement. In fact the thing feels indistinguishable from a super comfortableroadbike. I've commuted 20 miles each way several times on myBombadilsince I got it. On Oct 15, 1:33 pm, Bruce fullylug...@yahoo.com wrote: Would love to see some pics of your Doi Kham adventure rides. It's good to hear that yet another RBW design works well in both its intended and other uses. From: Kip Otteson kip.otte...@gmail.com To: RBW Owners Bunch rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Sent: Thu, October 15, 2009 7:36:07 AM Subject: [RBW]Bombadilon theroad I know that theBombadilis an off-roadmachine. However, I have put some Col de la Vies on mine and it is admirable on the pavement. I currently live in Thailand and I do a hill climb, Doi Kham, about 3-4 times a week. Steep pavement, some dirt, Buddha statues on hill tops. TheBombadilis great on fast, twisty descents and can handle lunch for all with the large Sackville Bag. Just wanted to throw this out for anyone that thinks the Bomba is only for the dirt. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Riding shorts liners
I have five pairs of MUSA shorts, pants, knickers and I have a corresponding number of Andiamo briefs. Rivendell doesn't carry them anymore and I was wondering if anybody has done long rides in the wool briefs or boxers they sell now. I have done some shorter stuff in wicking boxers under the MUSAs but nothing too long. I'm just wondering if anybody has had success with the wool. I'm looking for other hot weather options. Thanks. Kip Otteson Chiang Mai, Thailand --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: 1st generation Rivendell Mountain Bike and Colorado 2010 summer rendevous
Thanks, Marty. I appreciate it. Kip On Oct 17, 12:22 am, Marty mgie...@mac.com wrote: Briefly discussed (and a few pic links) in an earlier topic here: http://tinyurl.com/ygpvbmu FYI - I'm in Pennsylvania and have no bouncing bikes in the barn. My '83 Trek 850 is as close to a Mt Bike as I will likely ever get. Marty On Oct 16, 11:24 am, Kip Otteson kip.otte...@gmail.com wrote: Does anyone have a first generation Rivendell Mountain Bike? I'm talking about the bike in the 1994 catalogue that had drop bars. That bike always excited me and I have been looking for someone who actually has one. I've never seen a picture on the web or anywhere else besides that catalogue. Oh, and I was wondering if anyone is interested in planning a July rendevous in South Park, Colorado. I live in the S24O capital of the United States and am looking for interested folks that would like to do some trail riding and camping. I have 44 acres and a few houses right next to national forest and the Colorado Trail by Kenosha Pass and am always able to put people up in July. (Currently in Thailand for the school year.) It seems like most of the folks in this group are in California. I think I'm the only guy without full suspension in Colorado sometimes. Cheers. Kip Otteson --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: 1st generation Rivendell Mountain Bike and Colorado 2010 summer rendevous
Great, Brad. We live in Rocker 7 which is right by you. I'll definitely let you know when the time approaches. I'm going to be stateside in June but getting back to Colorado in the first part of July. I'd love to do some riding and camping. Thanks again for the response. Kip On Oct 17, 12:40 am, jinxed hbcl...@yahoo.com wrote: Kip, I would certainly be in for a ride next summer! My family has a cabin up near Kenosha Pass too. On Park Co. Rd. 60 to be exact. That area is great for riding with some unbelievable views and trails. I am sure I could round up a few others to get involved. Certainly drop a line or post up when the time rolls closer! I'll be joining the non suspension (mtb) camp soon as the Bombadil arrives! Brad --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] 1st generation Rivendell Mountain Bike and Colorado 2010 summer rendevous
Does anyone have a first generation Rivendell Mountain Bike? I'm talking about the bike in the 1994 catalogue that had drop bars. That bike always excited me and I have been looking for someone who actually has one. I've never seen a picture on the web or anywhere else besides that catalogue. Oh, and I was wondering if anyone is interested in planning a July rendevous in South Park, Colorado. I live in the S24O capital of the United States and am looking for interested folks that would like to do some trail riding and camping. I have 44 acres and a few houses right next to national forest and the Colorado Trail by Kenosha Pass and am always able to put people up in July. (Currently in Thailand for the school year.) It seems like most of the folks in this group are in California. I think I'm the only guy without full suspension in Colorado sometimes. Cheers. Kip Otteson --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
