[RBW] Re: [pictures] Just built up my orange Susie

[Paul Y]

That's a sleek utilitarian look  Ashwath! Thank you for sharing.

On Sunday, July 11, 2021 at 3:30:24 AM UTC+8 Ashwath Akirekadu wrote:

> Nice bike there Paul!  You will enjoy many, many long rides on this. 
>  'Huge' is quite right!  I'm thinking my bike is not going to be Caltrain 
> friendly, but it is super comfortable to ride.  Handles so well.  I've 
> owned a couple of other Riv's but this one is the most stable for loaded 
> rides.
>
> Here's my blue Wolbis.
>
> Cheers,
> Ash
>
> [image: wolbis.png]
>

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[RBW] [pictures] Just built up my orange Susie

[Paul Y]

https://photos.app.goo.gl/DcjxXsDwnkaHNxty8

I ordered her on the pre-order before COVID days. She only got built up a 
few days ago.
What a grand bike! And huge. 
I'll wait a few more days and ride some proper trail to post a ride report, 
but I'm loving the ride so far.

A very please Paul

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[RBW] Re: Handlebar suggestions for Gus\Susie

[Paul Y]

Congrats :)

I am struggling with the same question.

I have 2 bars ready for my Susie when it arrives... 58cm bosco and 66cm 
bullmoose.

I think I will put the bullmoose on first and change to the bosco if I find 
the bullmoose uncomfortable for very long rides. 
I also have a Ritchey P29-er with regular MTB riser bars, so that factors 
into how Susie will get used, ie, not planning to ride her so aggressively.

Whatever you choose, do share pictures and impressions.

On Saturday, May 23, 2020 at 6:23:43 AM UTC+8, Bill Fulford wrote:
>
> I got lucky and snagged a large GB Willsen and now am thinking about 
> handlebars. What are Gus\Susie owners going to use for handlebars? Thanks 
> for your input. Bill

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[RBW] Why I went Tubeless

[Paul Y]

FWIWI I have been using a floor pump and seating schwalbe tires (knobby nic, 
racing ralph) just fine on Stans Rims (arch 29, flow 26) since 2012. They seat 
at about 40 PSI for me.

The amount of rim tape used has been an important factor. 

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[RBW] Re: Bar Bag Loops

[Paul Y]

That's a pretty neat fix. I might try something similar using a Carradice 
roll. It is definitely annoying when the bag interferes with the hands!

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Re: [RBW] Re: Photos of my Roadeo, set up for brevets

[Paul Y]

Very interesting to know that Jack Brown's will fit under SKS P45s! 

My Compass 32mm Stampede Pass tires seem tight under my SKS P45s (albeit 
they are 13 years old, dimensions may have been updated since)

Nonetheless I have been wanting to buy a pair of JBs for fenderless days 
and am now inclined to try the combination. Thanks for posting that!


On Monday, May 11, 2020 at 11:54:50 AM UTC+8, Paul G wrote:
>
> The bar is a 44cm Nitto 177 Noodle on an 8cm Nitto Technomic Deluxe.
>
> Crank set is a 46x30 Velo Orange Grand Cru 175mm.
>
> Pedals are Shimano 105 5700 era.
>
> I originally had SKS Longboards on but the front one broke so I replaced 
> the front with a Chromoplastics version of the P45 with a PB mudflap 
> attached to it that I had lying around. I chose SKS due to the ease of 
> installation, they allow me to fit Jack Browns, and I can put the bike in 
> my car (front wheel on) without ruining the front fender. I do agree that 
> the metal fenders mentioned have better coverage and look classier...and if 
> anybody has safely fit Jack Browns under them on their Roadeo, I'd be 
> interested in your installation tips and tweaks.
>
> -Paul
>
>

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[RBW] Re: Photos of my Roadeo, set up for brevets

[Paul Y]

Lovely! What bag is that? 

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[RBW] Atlas stout enough rim for Gus/Susie?

[Paul Y]

I'm going for Cliffhangers when I get my Susie too

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Re: [RBW] Photos of my Roadeo, set up for brevets

[Paul Y]

Its true! 97% of the brevet routes are ridden in Malaysia. Yes, its very hot.

One interesting fact is that a lot of the riding is done on expressways. 

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Re: [RBW] Photos of my Roadeo, set up for brevets

[Paul Y]

Thanks Patrick!

I'm in Singapore.

The brake levers are Riv's long standing favourite Shimano Tiagras (they 
went by another name when I bought them). The hoods wore off a long time 
ago and I could never find replacements. I don't know if it happens in 
temperate climates, but in warm and humid climates, the rubber tends to 
melt. 

I used a file to smoothen the sharp metal edges before wrapping them in 
twine. The twine is comfortable on long rides with gloves, I think there 
would be chaffing without.

Saddlebag is a Carradice zipped roll bag. I have a Sackville banana sack on 
the way.


On Thursday, April 30, 2020 at 11:34:26 AM UTC+8, Patrick Moore wrote:
>
> Nice, Paul. You said "international orders;" where are you?
>
> I like the "make do" build, particularly the twined brake lever bodies. 
> Are those EX brake levers? I'll have to remember that for my pair, without 
> hoods, and hoods impossible to come by. Also for the 7410 levers, once my 
> (expensive!) stash of extra hoods is used up. I take it -- if you ride that 
> bike on brevets -- that the twine does not chafe the web between forefinger 
> and thumb?
>
> And kudos on the tail light wire, from someone who is far too obsessive 
> about such things.
>
> Caradice Junior?
>
>

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[RBW] Photos of my Roadeo, set up for brevets

[Paul Y]

John G mentioned that he likes seeing Roadeos setup for brevets, inspiring 
this post.

There are not a lot of pictures of Roadeo setups available generally, so I 
wanted to share these photos to help anyone considering a Roadeo for just 
this purpose, which is why I bought mine. 

At the time, I was considering a L'Avecaise. However, Jeff informed me that 
he was not taking international orders. This Roadeo frame soon popped up on 
this list.

This bike is lovely - it does everything I want a road bike to do, but with 
Rivendell level of comfort. It has been an almost daily rider for a few 
years, and done a couple of 200k brevets.

https://photos.app.goo.gl/yV4rA3URRXyaqG3U7

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Re: [RBW] 59 CM Roadeo for sale

[Paul Y]

Welcome to the Roadeo owners club, Jonathan.

Don has helped stir a good number of us into this company with his posts.

I have several times thought of selling my Roadeo because it is not as useful 
or as practical as my Sam, but when my roadie habit recurs, the Roadeo is 
instantly indispensable. 

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[RBW] Re: My First Rivendell

[Paul Y]

Wow that is beautiful!! I've never seen a Ram in that color before. 
Congratulations! You really scored a fantastic deal.

On Saturday, April 21, 2018 at 12:18:57 AM UTC+8, Tommy Patterson wrote:
>
> Hello everyone,
>
> I bought my first Rivendell used at a small shop in western NC a month 
> back and I love it! The price was too good to be true ($850!?!) and after a 
> few hundred in consumable parts (tires, drivetrain, bar tape) and setting 
> it up to my liking it is riding great. I understand why y'all love these 
> bikes to much.
>
> I have a general question to those that might know a thing or two about bb 
> length for rambouillets. The BB that is in there feels wide to me and I 
> have ample crank arm clearance. I have not pulled it out to measure, but I 
> am curious if a standard road width would fit this bike. I have 175 Sugino 
> cranks and could like to reduce my q-factor so I don't feel like I am 
> pedaling bowlegged. Any advice or experience would be helpful. 
>
> Attached are a few photos of the day I bought the bike (with a genuine 
> smile), its current iteration, and the crank-arm clearance. I'm riding a 
> century on it tomorrow, wish me luck. 
>
> Cheers,
> Tommy 
>

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[RBW] What type of bike would make you buy another riv

[Paul Y]

I'm very late to this... I have a 56 2TT Sam,built tank mode, and a 59 Roadeo 
in Rando mode. I love how fast the Roadeo is to pedal but prefer the leisurely 
carving of the Sam, which I imagine is due to the long wheelbase and slack 
geometry. I think a Sam with Roadeo tubing might be the ticket... I should 
probably buy a single TT Sam or an AHH and see how I go with that first though.

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Re: [RBW] Re: Seeking opinions on 11 speed roadie setup

[Paul Y]

All these opinions have helped me decide to stick with 2x8 gearing and just 
keep working on getting stronger. A good reminder that STI is a black box and 
is perfect until it's not... I plan to do audaxes so the bar end system should 
be considered a big plus, enough reason to forego the closer gearing.

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[RBW] Re: Seeking opinions on 11 speed roadie setup

[Paul Y]

Hey Patrick, reread your post, I think you're right! Will try riding in a 
single gear and see how it feels again.

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[RBW] Re: Seeking opinions on 11 speed roadie setup

[Paul Y]

Haha, Justin, love it!

Really, thank you all for chiming in. I like that the opinions are weighted 
towards simplicity... so I think I will keep my 2 x 8 speed for a while.

Joe: Exactly what I was thinking when wondering whether to go STI or not. I 
used to have Dura Ace 7800 on another bike.
Bill: Yes of course, I am under no illusion that only training is going to 
make me faster - and I think it's there in my post, that I am constantly 
doing workouts / strength building.
A Nostuh: True, I love the 7 speed on my Sam very much.
Deacon, I rode nothing but a fixed gear bike (42 x 17) for about 2 years, 
some 10 years ago. I like it, but I think I prefer having gears nowadays, 
it just allows for more variation during a ride and I like that it is more 
forgiving, especially riding in unforgiving situations (Singapore roads) 
and alot of the time in heavy rain. I'm still unclear whether it is better 
to push tall gears, something I've often done, or train to spin at a higher 
cadence.

n Monday, January 15, 2018 at 4:48:37 PM UTC+8, Justin, Oakland wrote:

> A Nostuh:
> Eleven and Ten are Zen
>

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[RBW] Seeking opinions on 11 speed roadie setup

[Paul Y]

Hi all,

Looking for opinions and perspective s before scratching an itch!

I've been riding my Roadeo with a dura ace 7400 double crank (38 and 48t) with 
a Sora 8 speed 11-25 cassette, Shimano bar ends (9 speed but running friction) 
and an older XT rapid rise rear derailer.

The gearing is pretty good for me - it's enough to manage 10 deg climbs and 
truck along around 35 kph.

I've been riding the Roadeo like a typical club rider might, generally without 
fenders and wearing lycra, though I haven't actually been riding with a club! 
The plan is to ride a few audaxes this year though.

I'm tempted to change to a new Shimano 105 5800 drivetrain (11 speed) and 
brifters, which should go on easily as I already have a 105 11-speed hub.

I love the robustness of the current setup but always looking for ways to get 
more speed ( and I'm constantly training / trying to build strength).

Has anyone else transitioned their bike similarly? As in, going from Riv values 
to modern racy (meshed with steel and larger tires)? I still have a Sam setup 
as a practical bicycle so I guess that leaves me freedom to embody another 
cycling personality.

Thanks for reading, and hopefully sharing your feelings on this.

Paul

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[RBW] Top Gear Ride on the Trails

[Paul Y]

Beautiful post Patrick, inspires me to dive ever deeper into the essence of how 
I experience cycling. Thank you!

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[RBW] My gift to the bunch

[Paul Y]

Thanks so much Marty, this is splendid! Definitely printing and framing!

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[RBW] Re: Phil "Rivy" freewheel wheelset opinions?

[Paul Y]

As of 20 November 2017 it appears they still have them in stock 

.

I have several Shimano "Tourney" 7 speed freewheels in a drawer that I must 
have got for about 10 bucks each.
I really love this hub... I got mine in 2010. I agree with "9 is fine, 8 is 
great, 7 is heaven".

On Monday, November 20, 2017 at 8:22:14 AM UTC+8, Belopsky wrote:
>
> So these hubs are gone gone right?
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: Roadinis could be arriving any day now?

[Paul Y]

Hi Richard,

Don’t think I’m in any position to comment on that, but I think they are 
practically similar based on the literature.

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[RBW] Re: Roadinis could be arriving any day now?

[Paul Y]

That looks fantastic Nels, the Grilver is gorgeous. Your colorful saddle is 
a very fun touch!
What cranks are those?
Looking at your build makes me want to take all the useful stuff off of my 
grey/red Roadeo and go blasting.


On Tuesday, October 24, 2017 at 11:32:09 PM UTC+8, Nels Sorenson wrote:
>
> Frame arrived yesterday, did a quick built up and now trying out stems to 
> see which is the ticket.
> This is the first drop-bar bike I've had in twenty years.  After a few 
> short test rides I think I'll be able to do drop bars again!
>
> Nels
>
>

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[RBW] RB-1 vs Rivendell

[Paul Y]

I have never ridden an RB-1, Ram or Legolas so this can be considered worthless 
opinion... but I went from riding a Sam daily for 6 years to a Roadeo a few 
months ago, and I love the Roadeo so much that I think everyone who likes any 
type of athletic riding and appreciates Riv virtues should get one. I have SKS 
fenders, full dyno lighting, a Nelson longflap with bagman support and bar tube 
bag, XD-2 triple wth platform pedals, making it perfectly good as a commuter 
yet still fun to flog (unlike Sam, where flogging was only fun on days that I 
felt particularly strong, and immensely tiring otherwise). I take the Roadeo in 
this configuration to join club rides too. I do everything with Roadeo except 
ride trail and take public transport. Roadeo!!!

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[RBW] Re: New (to-me) Roadeo!

[Paul Y]

I love the Sam on off roady tires and had 40c marathon extremes on it for a 
long time, taking it out on many trails in Chiang Mai with those tires... 
however I also managed to break the HT/TT lug joint doing so! Later on I 
got a Soulcraft Option 3 (pic ) and riding trail 
is much more fun on that, while still having some BoBish qualities in the 
build.

I expect that later down the road I will put the bosco bars on it with 
every racks and baskets on every boss possible and have the most useful 
bike in the world again.

Added some pics of the Roadeo to this album .

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[RBW] Re: New (to-me) Roadeo!

[Paul Y]

Don,

Are 32c ultra lights the Stampede Pass extra light or another tire ? 
The bike currently has Stampede Pass (standard weight), which are just 
lovely. I will no doubt be using them for a while before needing to get a 
new pair.

On Monday, January 9, 2017 at 11:18:15 AM UTC+8, Don Compton wrote:
>
> Paul,
> Great writeup. I have had a ton of bikes in all shapes and sizes. At 65yo, 
> I am no longer looking for that magical bike, I have found it in the Roadeo.
> By the way, have you consider Compass 32c ultra lights? They're expensive, 
> but they really fit a Roadeo's ride. Just a thought.
> Don Compton
>
> On Sunday, January 8, 2017 at 6:13:48 PM UTC-8, Paul Y wrote:
>>
>> Thanks for all your comments. I am indeed loving this bike even more 
>> after a few days of commuting on it and a couple of recreational rides, I 
>> don't feel the need to have both this and the Hillborne in the stable, so I 
>> will probably put the Hillborne frame up on the wall and appreciate that I 
>> have a great backup if needed.
>>
>> The Hillborne won my heart with its reliability and robustness. I 
>> marvelled at how I could ride it on trail yet join club rides when 
>> necessary, then shop for groceries on the way home. While I'd never 
>> complain about its ride and handling, I couldn't say I really enjoyed it 
>> either. With the Hillborne I loved the maturity and sensibility of design. 
>> The Roadeo, on the other hand, has awoken the part of me that loves the 
>> tactile experience of cycling and being at one with a bicycle. It throws 
>> the sensibility of racks and bags and a kickstand out the window. It 
>> instead rewards with responsiveness to pedal and steering inputs that is 
>> both sensual and sensational, and really brings out the joy of riding in a 
>> puritanical way. It is very pleasurable to ride, even if wearing a backpack 
>> with a hefty lock and change of clothes, one feels like an athlete, moving 
>> with strength and purpose on it. I had thought this type of riding was no 
>> longer for me, but the Roadeo suggests otherwise!
>>
>> I will still put on fenders and the Bagman support with the Carradice 
>> Nelson when they arrive in the mail though, and hope they don't affect the 
>> character of the Roadeo too much. If I still lived in Chiang Mai or a place 
>> with some dirtish rides or possibilities of camping, I'd build the 
>> Hillborne again in a heartbeat, because Sam is perfect in those situations. 
>> In Singapore though, it is either mingling with the road traffic or 
>> aggressive XC trail, so having just the Roadeo and my hardtail mtb fit the 
>> bill well.
>>
>> How the Roadeo compares to a Lyon or Boulder though, not something I 
>> might ever know!
>>
>

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[RBW] Re: New (to-me) Roadeo!

[Paul Y]

Thanks for all your comments. I am indeed loving this bike even more after 
a few days of commuting on it and a couple of recreational rides, I don't 
feel the need to have both this and the Hillborne in the stable, so I will 
probably put the Hillborne frame up on the wall and appreciate that I have 
a great backup if needed.

The Hillborne won my heart with its reliability and robustness. I marvelled 
at how I could ride it on trail yet join club rides when necessary, then 
shop for groceries on the way home. While I'd never complain about its ride 
and handling, I couldn't say I really enjoyed it either. With the Hillborne 
I loved the maturity and sensibility of design. The Roadeo, on the other 
hand, has awoken the part of me that loves the tactile experience of 
cycling and being at one with a bicycle. It throws the sensibility of racks 
and bags and a kickstand out the window. It instead rewards with 
responsiveness to pedal and steering inputs that is both sensual and 
sensational, and really brings out the joy of riding in a puritanical way. 
It is very pleasurable to ride, even if wearing a backpack with a hefty 
lock and change of clothes, one feels like an athlete, moving with strength 
and purpose on it. I had thought this type of riding was no longer for me, 
but the Roadeo suggests otherwise!

I will still put on fenders and the Bagman support with the Carradice 
Nelson when they arrive in the mail though, and hope they don't affect the 
character of the Roadeo too much. If I still lived in Chiang Mai or a place 
with some dirtish rides or possibilities of camping, I'd build the 
Hillborne again in a heartbeat, because Sam is perfect in those situations. 
In Singapore though, it is either mingling with the road traffic or 
aggressive XC trail, so having just the Roadeo and my hardtail mtb fit the 
bill well.

How the Roadeo compares to a Lyon or Boulder though, not something I might 
ever know!

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[RBW] Re: Photos from 2012 Great Divide Mountain Bike Trail

[Paul Y]

Gorgeous pics wow, are you riding barefoot ? 
The GDMBR is number 1 on my list of dream rides.

On Monday, January 9, 2017 at 2:32:53 AM UTC+8, Deacon Patrick wrote:
>
> With the interest in the trail, here are photos from my trip on the 
> Southern Colorado portion of the trail: 
> http://thegrid.ai/withabandon/great-divide-mountain-bike-trail/ 
>
> With abandon, 
> Patrick 
>
> www.OurHolyConception.org 
> www.MindYourHeadCoop.org 
>
>
>

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[RBW] New (to-me) Roadeo!

[Paul Y]

I just bought this 59cm Roadeo from Tim on the board. 

After six years of living on the Sam and finding no other bike able to replace 
its position in the stable, moving to the Roadeo feels like a leap of faith. I 
had initially considered a Lyon (was not entertaining international orders) and 
then Boulder (Mike seemed a bit too busy to reply emails). Then finally had the 
realization that I was much more Rivified than I thought, having read this 
board everyday for years and having really REALLY grown into my Sam.

Hoping to do a SR on it the Roadeo this year and fingers crossed, PBP 2019, but 
the plan is also for this to replace my Sam as the commuter.

Pics from my shakedown ride:
https://flic.kr/p/QN8vdm
https://flic.kr/p/QFaCGn

Tektro 539s
Rich built 105/SON28 A23
8 speed Sora cassette 
32mm Compass Stampede Pass
All other parts are from the hillborne and were standard Riv issue in 2010, 
except my much-missed silver shifters which suffer the stuck-cable-end syndrome 
:(

The Roadeo feels incredibly different from the Sam (56cm double TT). More 
spritely, less robust, certainly more squirrelly at speed but I'm still sorting 
out my riding position at this stage. Gets up to speed much quicker and more 
effortlessly. Already missing the rack mounts and ability to mount a 
kickstand... but I wanted a faster bike and everything can be gotten used to!

I have a Bagman support and fender nuts on order after which a Nelson longflap 
and 45mm sks chromoplastics will join the party and normalcy can return!

Thanks for sharing in my joy :)

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[RBW] Re: FS: Nitto M12 Front Rack (2 of 'em), Orc square platform rack - $50 each plus shipping

[Paul Y]

Love the garage shot, very tidy. Gorgeous like a Riv showroom.

On Tuesday, November 29, 2016 at 2:23:22 AM UTC+8, David Banzer wrote:
>
> Selling a few racks.
> Paypal Personal payment on these please. 
> Contact off-list if possible.
> Thanks,
> David
> River Grove, IL
>
> 1. Nitto M12 Front Rack - lightly used, threaded M6 eyelets for light 
> mounts on both sides, includes double-sided canti-bolts - $50 plus shipping
>
> 2. Orc Square Platform Rack - sorta like a mini porteur rack, made in 
> Portland, rack platform fits a Wald 137 basket nicely, giving more support 
> to the bottom of the basket, fits on Riv standard mid/upper eyelets, I 
> removed the tombstone to center a Wald basket better and had plans to use 
> this as a rear rack for a saddlebag support on a Schwinn Voyageur frame 
> which broke a while back - I no longer have canti bikes that have a 
> horizontally drilled brake bridge - this one's unpainted - single eyelet 
> for a light mount, Wald basket not included - $50 plus shipping - not too 
> great photo here - 
> https://www.instagram.com/p/BJv-HOIDJ4t/?taken-by=treetopdesigns  & here 
> on the Clem, second from the right - 
> https://www.instagram.com/p/BMkCjSCj9sm/?taken-by=treetopdesigns
>

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[RBW] Holiday Saddle question

[Paul Y]

I have this issue with my SAs too (X and NSX), the sides do not taper downwards 
like on a Brooks and they cut into my inner thighs. 

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[RBW] Re: FS: 61cm Roadeo

[Paul Y]

Cheers, hope it went to a good home.

Paul

On Friday, November 18, 2016 at 8:27:38 AM UTC+8, Eric Karnes wrote:
>
> Hi all-
>
> Whoops! It did in fact sell to a fellow list member. Forgot to update the 
> post. Sorry,
>
> Eric
>
>

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[RBW] Re: FS: 61cm Roadeo

[Paul Y]

Hiya Eric,

Really surprised not to see this sell - have you still got it ?
I just sold my Pocket Rocket and I'm aiming to do a super randonneur next 
year, preferably not on my Hillborne.

Paul


On Saturday, September 3, 2016 at 11:56:10 PM UTC+8, Eric Karnes wrote:
>
> Hi all-
>
>
> So, I’ve hemmed and hawed over this decision…but I’ve decided to sell my 
> 61 cm Roadeo. It one of the demos that Rivendell was selling in the winter 
> for $2500. It’s an absolutely fantastic bike...light and nimble, yet 
> stable...but my summer plan of engaging in epic road rides never really 
> materialized (turns out noodling around the city and local woods on my 
> SimpleOne is more my style). And it’s simply too nice a bike to be sitting 
> in my apartment unused.
>
>
> Since the new owner will likely want to choose a proper length stem, 
> proper width bar, and their preferred saddle, I thought I would leave those 
> off and just offer it with everything else…
>
>
> Drivetrain: Sugino XD2 Double, Shimano 105 RD, Campy Chorus FD, 9speed Riv 
> Cassette, Dura-Ace Barend Shifters
>
> Brakes: Standard Riv Tiagra Levers and Shimano Sidepulls
>
> Wheels: Rich-built standard Riv wheels (Velocity rims to Tiagra hubs) and 
> brand new Jack Browns
>
> Ultegra Headset, VO Grand Cru Seatpost
>
>
> …and then take $300-ish off the price.
>
>
> It’s in really nice shape and has barely been ridden (by me, at least). 
> Brand new Jack Brown Greens were installed a few weeks back. There are some 
> paint scrapes / chips (it was a Rivendell demo as mentioned), but nothing 
> that can’t be touched up if you so desire. I’ve just covered them with 
> clear nail polish, but if you’re uber finicky, you could get it repainted a 
> color of your choice and get a (nearly) complete bike for the price of a 
> frame. I also have some MKS Touring Lite pedals and two rolls of black 
> Newbaums cotton tape I can throw in if you want them.
>
>
> How does $1900 + shipping sound? I will have the bike professionally 
> packed by my local LBS. Any questions, feel free to email me! I’ve included 
> a few photos:
>
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/35128198@N02/albums/72157673326709465
>
> Unfortunately, my studio is in disarray and my camera is packed away. So 
> these are (not so great) cell phone pics. If you’re interested and would 
> like more detail shots, I’m happy to send them.
>
>
> Eric
>
>

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[RBW] Re: High Riding Handlebar Bag

[Paul Y]

Hi Kevin,
I experienced a similar effect with the Sackville Barsack, which I still 
love, but which makes the Hillborne much harder to ride hands off.
Currently I'm using a medium wald basket on a Nitto mini-front and it rides 
hands off much better. In the future I'm looking to move to a low-trail, 
rack, bag and decaleur setup in the future, but in your circumstances I 
might try to install attachment loops to the Kenswick? 

Paul


On Monday, November 14, 2016 at 10:44:31 AM UTC+8, Kevin Lindsey wrote:
>
> Greetings.
> I recently bought a Carradice Kenswick handlebar bag, which attaches to my 
> Hunqapillar by means of the "KLICKfix" system (
> http://www.klickfix.com/index.php?lang=en).  Unfortunately, using that 
> system, the bag rides so high on the handlebars that it affects the 
> stability of the bike; I cannot ride it hands off, for instance.  I would 
> have thought that the bag would easily attach to my Nitto front rack, but 
> there doesn't seem to be any way to securely fix it there, and I don't want 
> to use bungee cords.
> Any thoughts?
> Thanks,
> Kevin Lindsey
>

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[RBW] WTB: 47cm Betty Foy

[Paul Y]

Like the subject says... I know it's unlikely but sometimes miracles happen.

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[RBW] Re: FS 58cm NOS Betty Foy

[Paul Y]

Oh man, would've jumped if this was a 47cm (for my wife).


On Friday, July 1, 2016 at 11:11:21 PM UTC+8, Abcyclehank wrote:
>
> Anyone interested in a classic Betty for a loved one or self I have your 
> complete frame/fork/HS/BB/SP $1300 shipped CUSA only.
>
> Also two sets of excellent used high end rim brake wheel sets and other 
> full build parts available to frame buyer if desired.
>
> $ from sale will go towards a 2nd HHH deposit here in July.
>
> Sincerely,
> Ryan Hankinson
> West Michigan
> (616)928-4226
>
>

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[RBW] Re: New Bike Day - Hunqapillar FINALLY!

[Paul Y]

Thanks for chiming in with that Patrick, that's +1 for Hunq. Riv style and 
massive expedition really feel like they go together too.


On Tuesday, June 28, 2016 at 11:13:47 PM UTC+8, Deacon Patrick wrote:
>
> Paul, I've done 200 miles of the Colorado section of the GDMBR with my 
> Hunqapillar when it was set up with fenders and 50mm Duremes and did just 
> fine (even better now with the fatter, far more supple Thunder Burts). Much 
> of the GDMBR is FS roads, so washboard is the big factor (mud down in NM 
> depending on rainy season) and some jouncy rocky roads, but really not much 
> or bad. I don't know the Jones Plus from experience, but my Hunq did great 
> and I've done far more challenging bikepacking trails with it yet (Colorado 
> Trail and Continental Divide Trail sections). 
>
> With abandon,
> Patrick
>
>

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[RBW] New Bike Day - Hunqapillar FINALLY!

[Paul Y]

That's so cool, congratulations on your new bike and for trying something 
different too!

I still can't decide if I want a Hunq or a Jones Plus to ride the GDMBR on and 
this is an interesting route.

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[RBW] Bullmoose on a Sam Hillborne

[Paul Y]

Oops you're right of course. 

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[RBW] Bullmoose on a Sam Hillborne

[Paul Y]

Here's mine with Bullmoose bars:

https://www.dropbox.com/s/7fpzogny383rzxc/File%203-5-16%2C%2010%2059%2043%20PM.jpeg?dl=0

It sacrifices speed but is brilliant for everything else. Having had moustache 
bars, noodles and these, I think these are the best riding bars on my Sam. The 
bike just feels like it was made for riding upright like this. That said, my 
bike is back to noodles, but only because its also my go-fast. 

Enjoy!

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[RBW] Re: FS Nitto screw mount lamp holder #6 right

[Paul Y]

Hi Bruce,

Would love to get this from you if you'll ship to Singapore - of course I 
will pay whatever the difference in shipping is.

Paul

On Sunday, March 27, 2016 at 9:11:39 AM UTC+8, Bruce Smitham wrote:
>
> For sale Nitto screw mount lamp holder #6 right. Purchased from Rivendell. 
> Includes all hardware. $20 shipped CONUS
>
> Thanks,
>
> Bruce in San Diego
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[RBW] One reason I love my Sam Hillborne

[Paul Y]

I am probably more of a Strava user than most of you on the board. There is 
a big wannabe-racer character in me. That said, almost 2 years ago I sold 
my 23mm road bike and the Sam Hillborne became my only roadish bike.

Most of my rides get logged on Strava so I generally know where I am 
performance-wise. This morning I put a really hard effort 
http://www.strava.com/activities/158623274 in on the local road climb 
with the Hillborne. It's roughly a 43 minute climb for me. I came roughly 
1:15 slower than my personal record 
http://www.strava.com/activities/23765457#3643957048, which I had made on 
a modern road racer clipped in, clad in spandex, heart rate monitor et al. 
That's about *3%* slower riding in a t-shirt, casual shorts, sneakers, 
equipped with dyno lighting, kickstand and Sackville bar bag. No doubt the 
Hillborne is a beast compared to the sub 9kg road bike 
http://www.bikepedia.com/quickbike/BikeSpecs.aspx?year=2007brand=Feltmodel=F55
 
I sold. It offers comfort of another caliber of course - but that's another 
story. 

*3% slower up a 700m climb, riding both bikes at fast-as-possible effort.* I 
think that's a remarkably small penalty to be on such a stately machine!

I really, really love my Rivendell.

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[RBW] Seeking feedback: smart looking wool cycle shorts

[Paul Y]

Hi all,

I'm looking for some feedback on my pet project - cycling shorts inspired 
by Grant's writings and also the posts of several on this group. 
I had my prototype of these shorts made at the tailor's about 3 months ago 
and have put about a thousand kilometers on them. 
I have to say I am very pleased, and hope to bring these shorts to market 
as a custom fitted, made-to-order product. 

Link to flickr 
photosethttp://www.flickr.com/photos/paulatwork/sets/72157635797576895/

Any comments would be greatly appreciated!

Paul

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[RBW] Re: Seeking feedback: smart looking wool cycle shorts

[Paul Y]

Many thanks to everyone for all your invaluable feedback, this has been a 
very encouraging response for me to keep going with this project. 

Regarding material:
The main reason to use a wool blend vs. 100% wool has been that the wool 
blends are lighter weight to deal with the warm weather here. Since these 
will be made to order, the purchaser will have a choice in material, and 
100% wool could be an option.
Generally the blends seem lighter and less prickly than any 100% wool I've 
seen available here, and still dry fast and resist odor. I know merino 
could be the ideal 100% wool, but that would make this a much more 
expensive product. 

Regarding the sit bone area:
I've been wondering what to do about the wear marks, and with this post it 
seems clear that finding a solution to reinforce that area will be 
necessary. Because one of the primary objectives are that the shorts look 
smart, I'm avoiding the more popular synthetic materials for the short, and 
also don't want to visibly add nylon. Wool seems to get polished by the 
saddle as shown in the pictures. I am thinking with the next prototype, to 
try adding elbow patches to the sit bone area. 
 
@Lee : What a great DIY photo set you put together; thanks for sharing that.

@Shoji : Yes, these have a gusseted crotch, unless we have different 
understandings of what a guesseted crotch is - there is enough range of 
movement for the toughest hike-a-bikes I've found here, enough to do yoga 
even!

@Deacon : I'd never come across worsted wool before - thanks I will look 
into it.

@bwphoto : I've never seen these old cycling shorts before. Would you have 
a photo to share? These shorts seem to work just fine without a chamois, so 
I am quite certain to keep them chamois-less, as that is pretty much a 
feature with these! But I am curious about these shorts you used to wear.

@Patrick  Shoji : Great tip about plumbers crack, I will be sure to get a 
high back into the next prototype. 

@Patrick : Thanks for giving me so much information. I'll look at adding an 
additional rear pocket. You'll be glad to know that the front pockets are 
deep. 


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[RBW] WTB: Nitto Technomic Deluxe/Tallux 9cm

[Paul Y]

Anyone have one in the garage? 

I am set up to send Paypal. One caveat is that I would need you to ship to 
Thailand. 

If you're looking for an 11 cm tallux, maybe we could trade? 

Paul

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[RBW] Re: 2 Top Tube Observations

[Paul Y]

I have a double TT  56 Hillborne. 
Was a fan of the 2xTT when I bought it, but wouldn't want another bike with 
a double top tube now. 
This is because mine fractured from the head tube whilst riding up an 
embankment. (downtube fractured too)
I have no scientific basis to believe the fracture has anything to do with 
the double top tube, but it doesn't stop me from believing it does!


On Saturday, February 2, 2013 5:52:22 PM UTC+7, James Warren wrote:


 Something weird happened. I wasn't so big on the 2TT. Now for a month I've 
 been riding my parallel TT, double TT Hunqapillar.

 I was home and walked by the single TT 60 cm Hillborne sitting in my 
 entrance hall. As I walked by, I subconsciously thought, something looks 
 funny on that bike with it's big empty space in the main triangle and only 
 one TT.

 Holy crap. I've crossed over. I like the following comment in the Staff 
 Bikes section on the Rivendell site:

 Another generation-gappy thing: youngsters and old folks embrace the 
 functionality of double sloping top tubes, yet crotchety middle agers still 
 hold out.



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[RBW] Re: Virgin ride on my new Hilsen.

[Paul Y]

Nice build, gorgeous bike, congratulations! You must be very proud. 

Close up of the paint is mighty impressive. 


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[RBW] Re: 1 bike? Could you do it?

[Paul Y]

Gosh, life would be a lot simpler if circumstances forced me to have just 
one bike. This ideal has been a mirage that I unconsciously wander 
towards but never quite arrive at. I'm down to 2 now, but a 3rd on the way, 
with plans to sell off 1 in later future... but the mind tends to keep 
wanting!

If supernatural forces held me to just having one bike, then it'd be my Sam 
now, and if I could choose from scratch, cost not an issue (which it 
shouldn't be if reducing the stable to ONE bike!), maybe a custom steel 
mountain bike, fully rigid, massive clearances. 



On Wednesday, January 23, 2013 9:48:04 AM UTC+7, murphyjrfk wrote:

 Suppose the title says it all. But I've been a thinking about going down 
 to 1---not a big step down cause I normally only have two three tops o' 
 working bikes anyways. And the overlap is out of control. How many 26 
 touring bikes does one fellow need deal. But I love what I love I guess. 

 One bike? Could ya do it and what would it be?


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[RBW] On chainsuck

[Paul Y]

My Hillborne and its Sugino XD2 are about 3 years old. I recently put a new 
chain on and had 100% reliable chain suck on the granny ring. 
Earl Grey helped me out with a replacement ring and I put it on this 
afternoon. Its interesting to note how severely burred the original ring is 
on several teeth.

I'm wondering if I filed down the burrs, if this chain ring could provide 
any further useful life, or if the profile is already beyond salvage. 

The new ring has solved the problem completely! 

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8362/8402180136_84bea5899f_c.jpg

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8353/8401022277_a8e5ed0564_c.jpg



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[RBW] Re: Harlequin How-To

[Paul Y]

Superb video! I'd really like to try this now. 
Added Newbaums to the shopping list... 

Does anyone use shellac on bars done with this type of wrap? 

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[RBW] Re: New Blug Post with Jay Ritchey video

[Paul Y]

Incredible video. I feel so lucky Rivendell exists.

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[RBW] Re: Ride report: A week in northern Lao on my hillborne

[Paul Y]

A few post-ride thoughts: 

Grant is truly wise!!!

1. I would do it with platforms and regular shoes next time. Time ATAC's 
and mtb shoes were too uncomfortable within a context of five straight 
8-hour days, and you wouldn't need to schlepp an extra pair of footwear. 

2. Would not use a chamois for touring again. They are too hard to dry, and 
didn't make a big comfort difference. I tried riding with a speedo under my 
shorts, in a chamois, and commando (nothing dried!!). 150 km commando was 
ok! A chamois just made laundry harder. I actually dumped mine on the trip.

3. Would just take 2 pairs of traveller zip-off trousers next time, one for 
riding, one for dinner. 

4. Probably ride in a t-shirt or a long sleeved shirt (sun protection) next 
time. The racing jersey did nothing to help. Last day in a t-shirt was 
possibly even more comfortable. 

5. My rim tape was broken and I didn't realize until 2 tubes later. (the 
valve hole was exposed and cutting the valves...I just thought I had 
defective tubes). About 50 km from the next village (don't think one would 
find a 700c tube anywhere in Lao anyway), I managed to make a 26x1.95 tube 
that Jeff was carrying work in my 700x45 wheel. It actually held up very, 
very well. I also used a bit of broken tube (1 x 1) with a hole in the 
center and put this around the new tube's valve to protect it. Scissors is 
real important! Worked perfectly - learnt so much on this trip. 



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Re: [RBW] Ride report: A week in northern Lao on my hillborne

[Paul Y]

I definitely found myself hankering after a hunq on this ride.




On Thursday, January 10, 2013 12:12:19 AM UTC+7, Jim M. wrote:

 On Wed, Jan 9, 2013 at 8:03 AM, Paul Y pauly...@gmail.com javascript: 
 wrote: 
 I'd much prefer a 2 tire on my next visit. 
  

 Looks like a great ride! Thanks for documenting it for us. 2 tires? 
 You're going to need a Hunq or Bomba for the next trip. 

 jim m 
 wc ca 


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[RBW] Re: Anyone else ride their Rivendells at MAX Bar height?

[Paul Y]

I ride my tallux maxed out. Love it!

On Thursday, January 3, 2013 1:38:57 PM UTC+7, Michael wrote:

 Or is it just me (for now) (apologies for the wimpy saddle bag. Can't wait 
 to get a more sizeable one):
  
  


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[RBW] Ride report: A week in northern Lao on my hillborne

[Paul Y]

An incredible ride. I don't quite have the words, but here are the photos: 

http://www.flickr.com/photos/paulatwork/sets/72157632480237694/

Now I am left with figuring out how to return as soon as possible!

The Hillborne did great on 45 mm marathon extremes over both road and dirt 
road, but I'd much prefer a 2 tire on my next visit. 

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[RBW] Re: 29er tires on an Atlantis

[Paul Y]

Thanks Jim. Those look nice, amazing they could fit on a Cross-Check ! 

On Sunday, December 23, 2012 4:21:43 AM UTC+7, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery 
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 I had some Kenda Karma 29x1.9 on my Cross-Check. Good, light, not too 
 expensive.

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[RBW] 29er tires on an Atlantis

[Paul Y]

Real curious to know which 29er tires people are running on their big 
Atlanti, especially along the lines of XC / trail riding. 

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