Re: [RBW] Re: New Bike Day: My Little Platy

[Sally Bidleman]

What a wonder! Absolutely terrific...and I loved hearing the backstories!

On Thu, May 23, 2024 at 6:08 AM ian m  wrote:

> Love the iridescent bits, the anodizer really nailed it
>
> On Thursday, May 23, 2024 at 8:51:27 AM UTC-4 sarahlik...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> When "too much" is "just right." This bike will make you (and anyone who
>> sees it) smile. Who could not smile at the sight on a My Little Platy
>> coming down the road! I hope you have many joyous miles riding, and that
>> some of them are in California so we can see it in person!
>>
>> On Wednesday, May 22, 2024 at 8:43:11 PM UTC-7 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding!
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Finally. New. Bike. Day.
>>>
>>> This bike was a long time coming. I bought the frame in November
>>> (November!) and have waited this long for the plethora of specialty parts
>>> to arrive.
>>>
>>> Purple is a fun color; it never takes itself too seriously. It goes with
>>> most other colors, which is what led me to choose…all the colors.
>>>
>>> The theme for this Platypus is: 80s My Little Pony. I call the bike My
>>> Little Platy.
>>>
>>> The bike is a 50cm Rivendell Platypus with 650b wheels; it can be taken
>>> on Amtrak and bus racks, which is something its 55cm siblings cannot do. I
>>> put fat tires on it so it can handle gravel. My Gravel & Travel Platy.
>>>
>>> I adored My Little Pony in my girlhood, and my favorite ponies had
>>> rainbow hair. Why settle for just pink or blue when some ponies had ALL the
>>> colors? I started out this build incorporating a color here or there. (I
>>> had my Paul brakes already cerakoted in blues.) But while looking for
>>> grips, I found Ergon oil slick clamps and had my revelation: I wanted oil
>>> slick everywhere I could get it.
>>>
>>> Because oil slick has ALL the colors.
>>>
>>> All the makers of these parts worked with me to make this bike happen.
>>> They sent their beautiful products to me and let me alter them in wild,
>>> saturated, living color. I don’t know if any of them understood why I was
>>> going all out like this. All of them were men, save one - the anodizer. You
>>> can see her work in the levers, chain rings, cranks, and bottom bracket.
>>> She understood the assignment.
>>>
>>> I live with 3 men and none of them give the bike their stamp of
>>> approval. The Lone Wolf will howl, alright. I remain steadfast in my
>>> adoration of this bike because it does something for me. Takes me back to
>>> my simple, happy 80s and 90s childhood. If when you were a little girl
>>> (most of your were not), your friend had a dress-up closet and you could
>>> choose from her lavish collection of finery to wear at playtime, and you
>>> just came out WEARING ALL OF IT, well, that is this Platypus.
>>>
>>> Thank you to everyone at Analog Cycles, Paul Components, Ignite
>>> Components, Ashley Anodized It, Velocity USA and Pedal Bicycles for making
>>> this silly concept a real, tangible bicycle. And of course, thank you to
>>> Rivendell Bicycle Works, who makes the best bikes in the world.
>>>
>>> Please find my video link below.
>>> Leah
>>> https://www.instagram.com/reel/C7S3y0AufkX/?igsh=ZTk5amhhaTR2anQ=
>>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Rivendell Roadbike Curious

[Sally Bidleman]

Hi Leah,

I have nothing technical to add, per usual; BUT I do have a "new"
30-year-old custom Erickson road bike I bought recently. (My husband and I
share a Clem and a Platypus also.)

The Erickson happened to fit me perfectly, is steel and stable, but very
light and it moves like the wind! It's pure art in form and function.

I ride the Platypus most since it goes over everything easily and smoothly
and is so comfortable...and when my husband and I ride together, we can
switch off Rivs mid-ride for fun! But I am so thankful I can have both the
road bike and the Riv bike.

I think you'd love the experience of having a road bike, Riv or otherwise!

Best to you!
Sally


On Sat, Apr 20, 2024 at 6:46 PM Bill Lindsay  wrote:

> Leah
>
> Here's an exceptionally good value on an exceedingly solid road bike that
> could hold you over while you wait for the perfect Rivendell, -AND/OR- to
> act as a  test platform for the unknown parts of a potential build
> concept.  This is the kind of value I'd try to sniff out for you:
>
>
> https://sfbay.craigslist.org/sfc/bik/d/san-francisco-52cm-trek-usa-purple/7721534636.html
>
> I don't know for sure it's the right size but I do know I'm 5'10" and
> would ride the 58 in that model.
>
> BL
>
> On Saturday, April 20, 2024 at 6:12:20 PM UTC-7 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding!
> wrote:
>
>> Bill, I think I would love an albastache build. I ALSO like the idea of
>> you being my personal shopper. I think I’m pretty biased to staying with
>> Riv; I can’t be hurting Grant’s feelings, you know. But I love this
>> Michigan connection! If we did get a road bike and you got all kinds of
>> say-so in the build then you would for sure have to say APPROVE when I post
>> it on the List. Very gratifying, indeed.
>>
>> On Apr 20, 2024, at 4:52 PM, Bill Lindsay  wrote:
>>
>> Leah
>>
>>
>> My previous Roadeo was set up as a straight-ahead stripped down road
>> bike, and I would have used that anyplace anybody rides a road bike.  After
>> selling that, and while I was waiting for my new pink Roadeo, I used my
>> Black Mountain Road in that stripped down road bike slot, and that bike was
>> the deal of the century, IMO.  The RoadeoRosa revealed itself to be more
>> than just a stripped down road bike: It has insisted to become my 700c
>> randonneuse.
>>
>> Anyway, I did a very fast build on a Leo Roadini, last batch, and my
>> best-ever brevet time was on that bike.  So I think it's doable.  The newer
>> batch with its long reach brakes feels less "roadie".
>>
>> I can sympathize with the desire to run a Riv, but I'd also recommend
>> casting a wider net, because smaller frame sized used road bikes can be had
>> at a really good price.  Maybe if you start trolling Michigan craigslist
>> and the next time I'm out in Wayne County for work I can come be your
>> personal shopper.  :)
>>
>> Anything that can be set up with drop bars can probably also be set up
>> with an albastache build, which may ease you in.  Also, having a
>> placeholder road bike could free you up to put a deposit on a Roadeo and
>> then you'll have both!
>>
>> Do let me know if you want more advice
>>
>> Bill Lindsay
>> El Cerrito, CA
>>
>> On Saturday, April 20, 2024 at 12:33:50 PM UTC-7 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding!
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I’m starting to wonder about a roadbike. But it has to be a Rivendell
>>> roadbike because I’m loyal and all that. Anyway, I don’t know that the
>>> Roadini really offers enough of a change for me. I have no idea what is
>>> going on with the Gallup. Then there’s the Roadeo - that one looks great
>>> but there’s a 2 year wait, unless I can find one used. Which would be
>>> ideal.
>>>
>>> Who rides their Rivbike in club rides and what do you ride? Who has a
>>> Roadeo that never gets ridden and wants to sell it? I don’t even know what
>>> size I’d be but I’m an 81 PBH. Must I ride drop bars? I never have before.
>>> I know nothing about any of this. Clearly.
>>>
>>> Note: I still like my raspberry Platypus for club riding but it does
>>> take a toll on me in wind. I recently got a shorter-height, longer-reach
>>> stem which marginally helped, but our high spring winds are taking it out
>>> of me. I did a club ride yesterday with my women’s group and my heart rate
>>> was in the 170s the whole 26.3 miles. It was brutal. Everyone else agreed
>>> it was a hard ride, but I felt like it was harder on me than them, and I’m
>>> the youngest and probably the most fit.
>>>
>>> Leah
>>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: The Official Introduction of RoadeoRosa

[Sally Bidleman]

WOW! Amazing and delightful; have fun!

On Tue, Feb 20, 2024 at 5:31 AM ascpgh  wrote:

> What a build Bill.
>
> I said to Leah when she was considering the plunge for some bespoke bits
> that as you ride more, your experiences forge preferences for particular
> bike pieces and components. Each part that stands above discrete makes the
> bike you build or upgrade embody those stories and are a record of your
> riding like a scrapbook. Those who don't understand won't notice. Those who
> do will appreciate the richness of detail and see quite a story narrated
> here.
>
> I get it!
>
>
> Andy Cheatham
> Pittsburgh
> On Monday, February 19, 2024 at 11:27:37 PM UTC-5 Bill Lindsay wrote:
>
>> Here she is.  RoadeoRosa is complete
>>
>>
>> https://www.flickr.com/photos/45758191@N04/53540567348/in/album-72177720313109003/
>>
>> Frame set: Nobilette built Rivendell Roadeo.  Cantilever posts.  Legolas
>> fork crown.  Cane Creek 40 headset
>>
>> Wheelset:  HED Ardennes RA Black.  Stampede Pass Extralight tires.  TPU
>> tubes.  12-27 Dura Ace 10sp cassette.  Tune skewers
>>
>> Drivetrain:  Rene Herse Crankset 46/30.  White Industries Ti 108mm bottom
>> bracket.  Look Keo Carbon Ceramic Pedals.  Dura Ace 7900 F Der, R Der, Down
>> tube shifters.  KMC chain
>>
>> Components:  Rene Herse cantilevers. Jagwire Elite cables and housing.
>> Soba Noodle bars.  Nobilette stem.  Campagnolo Athena EPS brake levers
>> (electronics removed).  Dura Ace 7900 seat post.  Fizik Arione 00 saddle
>>
>> Accessories:  Rene Herse Fenders.  Arundel carbon H2O cages.  Rene Herse
>> pump.  Spurcycle Bell.  Rene Herse UD-2 front rack
>>
>> total weight 20.2lbs.  9.16kg
>>
>> Bill Lindsay
>> El Cerrito, CA
>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: NBOD: New Bike Ordered Day! The mythical canti-Roa!

[Sally Bidleman]

JOY!

On Fri, Feb 2, 2024 at 2:31 PM Bill Lindsay  wrote:

> "Died. I have died over here. Am dead, currently."
>
> Homicide was the intent, so...
>
> BL in EC
>
> On Friday, February 2, 2024 at 1:35:05 PM UTC-8 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding!
> wrote:
>
>> Died. I have died over here. Am dead, currently.
>>
>> PINK? Pink and CREAM?! I love pink - all shades of it. I just *yield* to
>> it. And nothing goes better with pink than cream!!! Oh, I cannot wait to
>> see your new bike!!! SUPER APPROVE
>>
>> On Friday, February 2, 2024 at 4:22:43 PM UTC-5 Bill Lindsay wrote:
>>
>>> Only the RivSisters are allowed to read this update:
>>>
>>> Today, Rick emailed me about the cream accents he is painting on my
>>> color-matched aluminum fenders.  As far as I can tell, that is the last of
>>> the last details, which means New Frame Day may arrive before my 55th
>>> birthday on Thursday the 8th.
>>>
>>> I'll repeat, this info is only for the RivSisters.  Everyone else will
>>> get this information after I've seen the finished product and can share
>>> photos.  Only the RivSisters get this early preview spoiler: My new
>>> Nobilette built Canti-Roadeo is Pink.  The frame and fork are Pink with
>>> Cream headtube and accents.  The Nobilette stem is Pink.  The Honjo fenders
>>> are pink with cream "French tips".
>>>
>>> Don't tell anybody else.  They'll find out soon enough...
>>>
>>> :)
>>>
>>> Bill Lindsay
>>> El Cerrito, CA
>>>
>>> On Thursday, December 7, 2023 at 11:21:06 AM UTC-8 Bill Lindsay wrote:
>>>
 Small update for the Sisters: Rick picked up my frame from Riv this
 week for paint
 Big update for the Sisters: I emailed Rick separately and he agreed to
 let me drop off my Rene Herse (Honjo) fenders to paint as well.  I'm beyond
 excited about that.

 Bill Lindsay
 El Cerrito, CA

 On Monday, December 4, 2023 at 6:03:36 AM UTC-8 sarahlik...@gmail.com
 wrote:

> I have already let Leah know, and we will be holding our breath for
> the big reveal wherever it shows up first. This is not even our first
> conversation about bike colors today, and won't be the last... because
> that's how we are. Your RivSisters are waiting!
>
> On Sunday, December 3, 2023 at 7:13:08 AM UTC-8 Bill Lindsay wrote:
>
>> I absolutely will be hoping for RivSister approval of my color way.
>> In my convo with Grant, he asked to photograph a number of the projects
>> I've been working on or recently completed, like he may Blagh about it, 
>> and
>> since this Canti-Roa is a relatively unique thing, I was going to give 
>> them
>> first shot at the actual reveal.
>>
>> Bill Lindsay
>> El Cerrito, Ca
>>
>> On Sunday, December 3, 2023 at 5:17:12 AM UTC-8 sarahlik...@gmail.com
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I love seeing someone else's bike dream fulfilled! Congratulations
>>> on your new bike day and what color did you paint your bike??! 
>>> (I
>>> promise you all your RivSisters want to know...)
>>>
>>> On Saturday, December 2, 2023 at 8:19:18 PM UTC-8 Bill Lindsay wrote:
>>>
 Since starting this thread, I did spring for a fancy new wheel set
 that I'm pretty excited about.  I like the people and products at HED, 
 and
 I appreciate their vestigial commitment to rim brakes.  They offer a
 premier rim treatment called RA black.  The rim is machined rough, and 
 then
 hard anodized to give a super high friction braking surface.  It's 
 supposed
 to be premier braking, and I'm excited to try it out.

 Mocking up the weights of things, I may be able to pull in a full
 build at 18.5 pounds without rack and fenders, and maybe (just maybe) 
 at
 19.99lbs with rack and fenders.  We'll see how it turns out...  it 
 will not
 be red.

 BL in EC

 On Saturday, December 2, 2023 at 9:23:07 AM UTC-8 Ryan wrote:

> Can hardly wait to see it built up! Long wait but worth it I'm
> sure
>
> On Saturday, December 2, 2023 at 9:57:15 AM UTC-6 George Schick
> wrote:
>
>> You gonna stick with the default red/white Roadeo color scheme or
>> choose something else?
>>
>>
>> On Saturday, December 2, 2023 at 8:45:33 AM UTC-6 Bill Lindsay
>> wrote:
>>
>>> ...and 20 months later, it has arrived!  Rivendell received my
>>> Cantilever Roadeo from Nobilette this week, and it's off to paint.  
>>> I paid
>>> them a visit and gave it a look over.  It looks very nice and I'm 
>>> eager to
>>> see it painted, and built up.
>>>
>>> On my visit I had a very nice chat with Grant about various
>>> things, and a few of the familiar old faces were there, so it was a
>>> pleasant visit all 

Re: [RBW] Re: Ride Report - Santa Monica to Santa Barbara Century

[Sally Bidleman]

Wonderful story! Love your writing:)

On Fri, Feb 2, 2024 at 6:04 AM ian m  wrote:

> Lovely looking ride. Many years ago I lived in Ventura and commuted to SB,
> I still regularly think about how beautiful that stretch of the 101 was.
>
> On Friday, February 2, 2024 at 1:05:50 AM UTC-5 kiziria...@gmail.com
> wrote:
>
>> Congrats! Love seeing people knocking out centuries with swept back bars.
>> Looking forward to seeing what I can do on my Platypus (almost done
>> building!). There is the LA Rivendell ride planned on the 17th, come by!
>>
>> Armand
>> Also in Santa Monica
>>
>> On Thursday, February 1, 2024 at 9:30:41 PM UTC-8 Keith P. wrote:
>>
>>> Part 2:
>>>
>>> 50 miles turned into 60, and 60 inched toward 70, and I knew if I got to
>>> 80 I'd be too close to 100 to stop.
>>>
>>>
>>> It was hoot. I felt good. Tired but not exhausted. Sore, but with none
>>> of the chaffing and agony I thought I might expect.
>>>
>>> More a matter of not stopping than pushing through a wall.
>>>
>>>
>>> [image: IMG_3390.jpg]
>>>
>>> I was also surprised by how much of the distance was covered on
>>> dedicated bike paths along the way. They were numerous and well isolated
>>> for long stretches, and when they were non existent, they were most often
>>> connected by a frontage road.
>>>
>>> I ate some bugs. I ate some almond croissants.
>>>
>>> The coast gave way to foothills just before dropping down into Santa
>>> Barbara, and just as the mini van pulled up behind me. I sent them on ahead
>>> to meet up with me after the last 8 miles of the ride.
>>>
>>> [image: IMG_3364.jpg]
>>>
>>> [image: IMG_3393.jpg]
>>>
>>> (That's 103 not 3)
>>>
>>> [image: IMG_3408.jpg]
>>>
>>> Here I am, proud of myself. I don't think I expected to go the full
>>> distance really.
>>>
>>> Always feels good to accomplish something new.
>>>
>>>
>>> [image: IMG_3435.GIF]
>>>
>>> The cheering crowds were of course overwhelming.
>>>
>>>
>>> No flats or slow leaks on the Snoqualmie Passes.
>>>
>>> The Hillborne preformed like the absolute champ we know it to be.
>>>
>>> I have insoles in my vans, but could feel how a stiffer soled shoe would
>>> help on long trips like this one.
>>>
>>>
>>> Overall a fantastic Southern California ride.
>>>
>>>
>>> Keith Paugh
>>>
>>> Los Angeles, CA
>>> On Thursday, February 1, 2024 at 9:26:56 PM UTC-8 Keith P. wrote:
>>>
 1.27.24

 Perhaps excepting an invitation to a Century ride was overly
 optimistic. I haven’t ridden more than 35 miles at once in recent memory -
 Maybe the proposition should have given me pause, but a foolhardy challenge
 is just what we need to feel slightly nervous about from time to time.

 The plan was to ride from our homes here in Los Angeles to Santa
 Barbara on a route exactly 100 miles away. A “Pier to Pier” ride, from the
 Santa Monica Ferris Wheel to Stearns Wharf on the other end.

 Hugging the coast, we would follow a “mostly” flat course, with about
 2,900 ft of elevation gain over the entire distance.

 Not without any climbing, but predominantly gradual climbing, of short,
 and rolling hills along the Pacific Coast Highway.

 It was fun to think about what food to bring for an average of 200 -
 300 calories per hour of riding.

 I tried out Tailwind, a hydration drink mix "with electrolytes and
 calories."

 I had two bottles, one with water, and one with Tailwind in them at any
 given time. I definitely think it helped to mix “drinking” calories as well
 as eating them.

 Laying everything out the night before my kids were impressed with the
 proposed undertaking. I had to manage expectations and tell them my goal
 was reaching half the distance.

 The group met at 4:45 in the morning so we could be on the road by
 5:00. Most of my cycling friends are younger, more frequent and thus
 stronger riders than I am, and several announced they were now planning to
 not only ride the 100 miles to Santa Barbara, but now also ride back.
 They laid out a brisk pace with brief stops to get them to the finish with
 ample time for their return trip.

 [image: IMG_3372.jpg]

 Riding early by bike light is always a treat. Devoid of its usual
 measure of traffic, Los Angeles is a different town in the dark, and your
 required level of city-riding spatial vigilance can relax to a pleasant
 degree.

 It was cool out but not cold, and I took off my riding jacket early on.

 I had hemmed and hawed about cutting the zip ties on my racing basket
 and leaving it behind... In the end, I recognized whatever loss in
 aerodynamics was going to be negligible for me, and having a place to shed
 layers and plastic bags of dry roasted peanuts was a welcome convenience.

 The stretch of PCH in Santa Monica is one of the few that doesn’t have
 an ample shoulder for bikes to stay out of the right 

Re: [RBW] Re: New Bike Day—Retirement Bike

[Sally Bidleman]

Absolutely wonderful! You are inspired...and inspiring...have fun:)

On Tue, Dec 26, 2023 at 9:21 AM JohnS  wrote:

> Hello Roberta,
>
> I love the painted hearts, hearts on the mud flags and the other red
> accents you've added to your Betty. They all add a bit of whimsy to the
> bike that made me smile. Should be a great bike to ride. I find that my
> Crust Lightning Bolt canti with 650b x 42 tires is my favorite for it's
> versatility and comfort.
>
> Happy Holidays,
> JohnS
>
>
> On Tuesday, December 26, 2023 at 9:25:40 AM UTC-5 thalasin wrote:
>
>> That mudflap is spectacular! Beautiful bike and thanks for sharing the
>> story.
>>
>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Who’s getting a Platypus tomorrow?

[Sally Bidleman]

Hi Dorothy,

Good question!

We didn't even open the box because our shop was just about to close and
the owner was waiting for us...I didn't buy one, so I'm sure we'll get a
phone call by Monday if there wasn't one in the box...and I'll alert you:)
Maybe Will can send you one separately? I know it clearly stated there
would be a saddle.

Sally

On Sun, Dec 10, 2023 at 10:54 AM Dorothy C  wrote:

> Sally did your complete include a saddle? Will said there would be, but I
> didn’t get one with mine
>
> On Sunday, December 10, 2023 at 10:25:18 AM UTC-8 SallyG wrote:
>
>> My husband's (okay, really, OUR) 50 cm purple Platy complete arrived
>> yesterday by UPS!
>>
>> We loaded it up asap to get it to our local bike shop before it closed
>> (not being as savvy mechanically as most of you all...but equally excited
>> for sure:)... I'd already ordered the pedals, kickstand, tape, twine, etc.
>>
>> Xmas came early here in California!
>>
>> Cheers to all...
>>
>> On Sun, Dec 10, 2023 at 9:50 AM Joe Bernard  wrote:
>>
>>> It's so exciting! I can't wait to see your new Purple Platy and all the
>>> other new bikes out there. Gosh, now I kinda wish *I* was getting a new
>>> frame... 樂
>>>
>>> Joe " wishin' and hopin' " Bernard
>>>
>>> On Sunday, December 10, 2023 at 5:47:48 AM UTC-8 Bicycle Belle Ding
>>> Ding! wrote:
>>>
 They are trickling in. Mine arrives Wednesday. I hope you get your
 wife’s in time!

 On Dec 10, 2023, at 8:44 AM, Josh C  wrote:

 I was just going to ask if anyone had received theirs yet. Hoping to
 put my wife's under the tree...or near it I guess.



 On Tuesday, October 24, 2023 at 1:52:52 PM UTC-4 Arthur Mayfield wrote:

> My Mermaid Platypus 55 frame arrived today (apparently found in their
> stock from last year). This is an *elegant* bike-to-be! All you who
> ordered frames or bikes have a real treat coming! I’m waiting for wheels 
> to
> be built, so plenty of time for frame-saving the tubes and ceramic coating
> the paint before building it up. I already had a B-68 and crankset,
> derailleurs, cassettes, brakes, stem, bars, racks, fenders, etc, so it 
> will
> go together quickly when the wheels get here. I have a blue Sam 52 
> (caliper
> brakes, 650B) in *really* nice condition that will likely go on the
> market when I get the Platypus put together, btw. I’m in NC.
>
> On Saturday, October 21, 2023 at 7:51:25 PM UTC-4 RBW Owners Bunch
> wrote:
>
>> Peter, great info re: the Mardi Gras colors! I'm thinking of gold +
>> green, harlequin-style, for the purple bike.
>>
>> (I'm also remembering the smell of sweet olive blossoms and the taste
>> of a real beignet and the sound of Preservation Hall...my mom was born
>> there and I love to visit!)
>>
>> S.
>>
>> On Sat, Oct 21, 2023 at 12:00 PM Peter Adler 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Green + purple + yellow = Mardi Gras bike. Go to New Orleans during
>>> the season, and all the plastic beads thrown from the parade floats are 
>>> in
>>> those three colors. Maybe yellow bar tape or water bottles.
>>>
>>> Peter "laisse les bons temps rouler sur vélo" Adler
>>> Berkeley, CA
>>>
>>> On Thursday, October 19, 2023 at 7:04:20 AM UTC-7 Josh C wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> I’m hoping to snag a 50cm green complete for my wife. I’ve had
>>> several Rivs and she’s never had the experience. She’s mentioned several
>>> times that a step-through style bike interests her. She has some purple
>>> Paul bits on her current bike that I think will look nice with the green
>>> instead of two different purples.
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Re: [RBW] Re: Who’s getting a Platypus tomorrow?

[Sally Bidleman]

My husband's (okay, really, OUR) 50 cm purple Platy complete arrived
yesterday by UPS!

We loaded it up asap to get it to our local bike shop before it closed (not
being as savvy mechanically as most of you all...but equally excited for
sure:)... I'd already ordered the pedals, kickstand, tape, twine, etc.

Xmas came early here in California!

Cheers to all...

On Sun, Dec 10, 2023 at 9:50 AM Joe Bernard  wrote:

> It's so exciting! I can't wait to see your new Purple Platy and all the
> other new bikes out there. Gosh, now I kinda wish *I* was getting a new
> frame... 樂
>
> Joe " wishin' and hopin' " Bernard
>
> On Sunday, December 10, 2023 at 5:47:48 AM UTC-8 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding!
> wrote:
>
>> They are trickling in. Mine arrives Wednesday. I hope you get your wife’s
>> in time!
>>
>> On Dec 10, 2023, at 8:44 AM, Josh C  wrote:
>>
>> I was just going to ask if anyone had received theirs yet. Hoping to put
>> my wife's under the tree...or near it I guess.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tuesday, October 24, 2023 at 1:52:52 PM UTC-4 Arthur Mayfield wrote:
>>
>>> My Mermaid Platypus 55 frame arrived today (apparently found in their
>>> stock from last year). This is an *elegant* bike-to-be! All you who
>>> ordered frames or bikes have a real treat coming! I’m waiting for wheels to
>>> be built, so plenty of time for frame-saving the tubes and ceramic coating
>>> the paint before building it up. I already had a B-68 and crankset,
>>> derailleurs, cassettes, brakes, stem, bars, racks, fenders, etc, so it will
>>> go together quickly when the wheels get here. I have a blue Sam 52 (caliper
>>> brakes, 650B) in *really* nice condition that will likely go on the
>>> market when I get the Platypus put together, btw. I’m in NC.
>>>
>>> On Saturday, October 21, 2023 at 7:51:25 PM UTC-4 RBW Owners Bunch wrote:
>>>
 Peter, great info re: the Mardi Gras colors! I'm thinking of gold +
 green, harlequin-style, for the purple bike.

 (I'm also remembering the smell of sweet olive blossoms and the taste
 of a real beignet and the sound of Preservation Hall...my mom was born
 there and I love to visit!)

 S.

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> Green + purple + yellow = Mardi Gras bike. Go to New Orleans during
> the season, and all the plastic beads thrown from the parade floats are in
> those three colors. Maybe yellow bar tape or water bottles.
>
> Peter "laisse les bons temps rouler sur vélo" Adler
> Berkeley, CA
>
> On Thursday, October 19, 2023 at 7:04:20 AM UTC-7 Josh C wrote:
>
>
> I’m hoping to snag a 50cm green complete for my wife. I’ve had several
> Rivs and she’s never had the experience. She’s mentioned several times 
> that
> a step-through style bike interests her. She has some purple Paul bits on
> her current bike that I think will look nice with the green instead of two
> different purples.
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Re: [RBW] Northern Hemisphere Fall / Autumn Riding Photos 2023

[Sally Bidleman]

Eric,

Bustling Morro Bay on the central coast of CA!

On Sun, Nov 19, 2023 at 2:05 PM Eric Marth  wrote:

> SallyG: Where is this scene? Palmated trees and wild turkeys. Looks like
> the guy in back has a pretty long beard!
>
> On Sunday, November 19, 2023 at 3:04:53 PM UTC-5 SallyG wrote:
>
>> [image: Turkeys .jpg]
>> Thanksgiving Holiday Traffic!
>>
>> On Sun, Nov 19, 2023 at 10:52 AM Ted Durant  wrote:
>>
>>> Sunday morning traffic jam in SE Wisconsin
>>>
>>> Ted Durant
>>> Milwaukee, WI USA
>>>
>>> [image: Frame-19-11-2023-12-46-47.jpeg]
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Re: [RBW] Re: Anna Purple

[Sally Bidleman]

When my mom was in her 90's, after leading a fairly prim and proper life,
she shared her favorite poem with me.

"Warning," by Jenny Joseph.

Ever since then, I have loved the rebellious spirit of purple!

On Sat, Nov 18, 2023 at 5:42 AM Ryan  wrote:

>
> I remember that article. Gotta admit the Ana purple
> Is growing on me. Maybe Leah should snatch that 50
> Platypus
> On Saturday, November 18, 2023 at 4:21:41 AM UTC-6 ascpgh wrote:
>
>> I'm OK with purple, I had a '93 XO-2 in a dark metallic purple. Grant had
>> a bit in the '91 catalog about colors (a Note About Color)
>> 
>>  from
>> a time when anything NOT a dayglo color was a negative point against a bike
>> model.
>>
>> Andy Cheatham
>> Pittsburgh
>>
>> On Friday, November 17, 2023 at 9:34:41 AM UTC-5 Tim Bantham wrote:
>>
>>> Curious what folks think of the Riv frames in purple. I personally am on
>>> the fence. I keep looking at it and can't decide if I would like it or not.
>>> I would be perfectly fine with any of the other Riv colors but the purple
>>> is a bit polarizing to me. Of course I am betting it looks great in person.
>>> Thoughts?
>>>
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Re: [RBW] Bike Rack

[Sally Bidleman]

[image: First Time on the Rack 1.jpg]
[image: Sunset into the Pacific 1.jpg]
Thanks so much for all the great advice and for sharing your experiences
re: the car racks! Yesterday afternoon we spent some time in our local shop
and ended up getting that Kuat NV 2.0, 2-Bike Hitch Rack. (Though one of
the mechanics had a 1UP himself and recommended it, too.) They installed it
and we tried it out today on Hwy. 1 (and on our neighborhood potholes!). It
seems very solid and the bike didn't budge...and the combined weight of
bike and rack didn't sink the Subaru either...so all good so far:) When we
get my husband's Platypus (50 cm) we'll see how it does with both bikes.
Here's a photo of the first time on the rack for Clem and of sunset into
the Pacific tonight. Cheers!



On Sat, Nov 11, 2023 at 7:25 AM Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! <
jonasandle...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Rack shopping for Rivendells is my least favorite. There are so many
> things I need a rack to work around for my Rivendells. Long WB, fenders,
> step-thru… I have the 52 Clem (if memory serves, the WB is 52”) and the 55
> Platypus, which is like 47.25in WB. I have the Saris Freedom 4 bike rack,
> but the only way to make it work for my long bikes was to purchase the long
> wheelbase bar, which no longer is made by the company. What does that
> mean?! Is mine still safe?!
>
> I’ve been looking at the Kuat racks but they neglect to show photos of how
> the bikes sit in the NV2 if using the wheel trays - yes, I see the trays
> but what is the mechanism holding the frame? Hollywood makes a simple and
> affordable rack (Trail Rider) that *should* work for you provided that the
> bar can get low enough on the Clem top tube while the wheel trays are wide
> enough apart to accommodate the bike’s length.  The Hollywood rack is
> inexpensive and easy and will work for your WBs but if you plan to just
> leave it on the vehicle, it’s annoying. The Saris Freedom folds up so it’s
> not in my rear window’s line of sight all the time. Which is important,
> since I leave the rack on the van from March-November.
>
> I think working with a shop that sells these racks is a good idea. Let us
> know what you settle on!
> L
>
> On Friday, November 10, 2023 at 10:29:05 AM UTC-5 Roberta wrote:
>
>> Jacob,  Hopefully no harm to bike or others.
>>
>> I had a Kuat beta and for a hanging bike rack, I though it was terrific.
>> I now have a Saris Freedom (tray) and like it even better.  The part that
>> touches the frame has flexible channels for the wires to sit in, so very
>> little actually touches the frame. Reasonable price too.
>>
>> All my bikes have fenders.
>>
>> Roberta
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thursday, November 9, 2023 at 11:21:14 AM UTC-5 jacobir...@gmail.com
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I have a Kuat and do yourself a favor and stay VERY clear of them. It
>>> fell apart and my bike almost fell off on the freeway.
>>>
>>> On Nov 5, 2023, at 06:03, Ron Cramer  wrote:
>>>
>>> 
>>>
>>> IMHO the Kuat Sherpa. Had other racks, but this is my favorite. The
>>> Sherpa is light, therefore easy to mount. But I would use an additional
>>> cable lock.
>>>
>>> On Sat, Nov 4, 2023, 1:35 PM SallyG <3mu...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
 Hi all!
 Any bike rack you'd recommend for Clem Smith L 45 cm and future Platy
 50 cm for husband? Kuat or? Model? Thanks for any help!
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Re: [RBW] Re: Bike Rack

[Sally Bidleman]

Hi Omar and Chester,

Thanks so much for further info! I like that wheel stop thingy... very
useful I bet. And that quikrstuff rack video was interesting; I especially
liked how you can just fold the rack up and stuff it in the back of a small
SUV. I can see why there's a 2-month wait on those.

We're going to the local shop Saturday to preview the Kuat and any others
they have...probably too impatient to wait another couple months.

I'd really like to head up the coast and ride the 17-Mile-Drive ... haven't
done it since I had my old Stella in college:) But I understand the traffic
is worse now...maybe early in AM would work!



On Tue, Nov 7, 2023 at 3:56 PM Chester  wrote:

> Super similar to 1Up racks are the ones made by QuikrStuff, licensing
> design by the creator of the 1Up rack design:
>
> https://quikrstuff.com/
>
> Looks like he refined the design in at least a few nice ways. They're
> backordered with lead time estimated at 2 months, according to their
> website.
>
> Chester
> SF Bay Area
>
> On Tuesday, November 7, 2023 at 2:55:12 PM UTC-8 Omar Sandoval wrote:
>
>> Another vote for the 1UP. Their "wheel stop" accessory/add-on holds my
>> fendered bike very well (https://1up-usa.com/product/wheel-stop). You
>> can also adjust the arms to mount bikes with smaller wheels. (As small as
>> 16").
>> On Saturday, November 4, 2023 at 12:35:15 PM UTC-7 SallyG wrote:
>>
>>> Hi all!
>>> Any bike rack you'd recommend for Clem Smith L 45 cm and future Platy 50
>>> cm for husband? Kuat or? Model? Thanks for any help!
>>> Sally
>>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Bike Rack

[Sally Bidleman]

Hi Ed,
Thanks so much for the tips...great idea to check for Black Friday deals,
too!

On Mon, Nov 6, 2023 at 11:00 PM Ed Carolipio  wrote:

> +1 on the Hollywood Sport Rider as a good, low cost tray-style hitch rack
> for fendered bikes and swoopy frames. The 2 bike option is pretty light as
> well so easy to wrangle on and off the car. Swagman makes a similar rack,
> the XTC. I own both: Sport Rider for 2 bikes, XTC for 4 bikes. Ironically,
> I buy my racks right around Black Friday since I find great deals on them
> this time of year.
>
> --Ed C.
>
> On Sunday, November 5, 2023 at 9:18:26 AM UTC-8 SallyG wrote:
>
>> Thanks very much! I looked up Hollywood bike carriers and they seem
>> great, too. Our local shop is closed today but website indicates they may
>> have these in the warehouse...Hope to see one and compare.
>>
>> On Sun, Nov 5, 2023 at 4:09 AM 'peec...@yahoo.com' via RBW Owners Bunch <
>> rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>>
>>> The Hollywood bike carrier accomodates wider tires, longer wheelbases
>>> and fenders.  Fairly low price. well made.  I have been pleased with it for
>>> the 2 years I have been using it.
>>>
>>> On Saturday, November 4, 2023 at 7:01:51 PM UTC-5 SallyG wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi Brian,
>>>>
>>>> Great info, especially re: the fenders! I have fenders on my Clem and
>>>> just ordered some for my husband's incoming Platypus.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks much!
>>>>
>>>> On Sat, Nov 4, 2023 at 4:50 PM Brian Turner  wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I share Ted’s praise of the Küat NV2.0. Mine has been one of the best
>>>>> bike investments I’ve made. It fits my 50” wheelbase medium Gus no 
>>>>> problem,
>>>>> although it pushes it to its absolute maxium. When they say 50” is the 
>>>>> max.
>>>>> wheelbase, they mean it.
>>>>>
>>>>> 1Up makes a very fine rack, but if your bike has fenders, or if you
>>>>> think you’ll want to carry a friend’s bike who has fenders, you may want 
>>>>> to
>>>>> consider the Küat over the 1Up. Reason being, the Küat swing arm will 
>>>>> still
>>>>> securely hold the front wheel as long as you get it as close to the front
>>>>> edge of the fender as possible. Unlike the 1Up, there’s no rear swing arm
>>>>> on the Küat to clamp down on (and potentially deform) your rear fender. My
>>>>> Küat has carried multiple fendered bikes thousands of miles on long road
>>>>> trips with no issues whatsoever.
>>>>>
>>>>> On Nov 4, 2023, at 7:29 PM, Sally Bidleman <3mu...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> 
>>>>> Thanks, Ted! I just checked our local bike shop and, while they don't
>>>>> have 1UP, they can bring a Kuat NV2 down the grade from their warehouse in
>>>>> a couple days for us to try. Very excited to expand our biking radius,
>>>>> albeit (partially) by auto! Now, if I can only locate a Jakob Ingebrigtsen
>>>>> running cap for my son's birthday, I'll be 2 for 2 today, ha.
>>>>>
>>>>> Appreciate this group!!
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sat, Nov 4, 2023 at 2:53 PM Ted W  wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Highly recommend the Kuat NV2 or 1UP as previously recommended. I
>>>>>> have the NV2 and it’s the best rack I’ve ever owned. Can easily carry any
>>>>>> bike I have. The only one that pushes the limits a bit is my Gus, I
>>>>>> wouldn’t want to try anything longer. The only reason I didn’t get the 
>>>>>> 1UP
>>>>>> was due to availability at the time.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Sat, Nov 4, 2023 at 5:00 PM <3mu...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks Johnny! Subaru XTrek 2 inch hitch.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Nov 4, 2023, at 1:44 PM, Johnny Alien 
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> For like a car? If so 1UP will be my whole hearted recommendation.
>>>>>>> Best product I ever bought and works great for long wheelbases.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Saturday, November 4, 2023 at 3:35:15 PM UTC-4 SallyG wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>&

Re: [RBW] Digest for rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com - 20 updates in 8 topics

[Sally Bidleman]

Thanks, Tom; these look great, too. I want to see the rack "in person"
before I buy it, so I'll put this one on my list to check on!

On Mon, Nov 6, 2023 at 3:47 AM Tom Horton  wrote:

> Re rack  i have been using a swagman with the largest clem and platy and
> it works well
> It is more affordable than 1up  likely not as good but all i have needed
>
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> SallyG <3mun...@gmail.com>: Nov 04 12:35PM -0700
>
> Hi all!
> Any bike rack you'd recommend for Clem Smith L 45 cm and future Platy 50
> cm
> for husband? Kuat or? Model? Thanks for any help!
> Sally
> Johnny Alien : Nov 04 01:44PM -0700
>
> For like a car? If so 1UP will be my whole hearted recommendation. Best
> product I ever bought and works great for long wheelbases.
>
> On Saturday, November 4, 2023 at 3:35:15 PM UTC-4 SallyG wrote:
>
> 3mun...@gmail.com: Nov 04 02:00PM -0700
>
> Thanks Johnny! Subaru XTrek 2 inch hitch.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Nov 4, 2023, at 1:44 PM, Johnny Alien 
> wrote:
>
> For like a car? If so 1UP will be my whole hearted recommendation. Best
> product I ever bought and works great for long wheelbases.
>
> On Saturday, November 4, 2023 at 3:35:15 PM UTC-4 SallyG wrote:
>
> Hi all!
>
> Any bike rack you'd recommend for Clem Smith L 45 cm and future Platy 50
> cm for husband? Kuat or? Model? Thanks for any help!
>
> Sally
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> .
> Ted W : Nov 04 05:53PM -0400
>
> Highly recommend the Kuat NV2 or 1UP as previously recommended. I have the
> NV2 and it’s the best rack I’ve ever owned. Can easily carry any bike I
> have. The only one that pushes the limits a bit is my Gus, I wouldn’t want
> to try anything longer. The only reason I didn’t get the 1UP was due to
> availability at the time.
>
> Sally Bidleman <3mun...@gmail.com>: Nov 04 04:29PM -0700
>
> Thanks, Ted! I just checked our local bike shop and, while they don't have
> 1UP, they can bring a Kuat NV2 down the grade from their warehouse in a
> couple days for us to try. Very excited to expand our biking radius, albeit
> (partially) by auto! Now, if I can only locate a Jakob Ingebrigtsen running
> cap for my son's birthday, I'll be 2 for 2 today, ha.
>
> Appreciate this group!!
>
> Brian Turner : Nov 04 07:50PM -0400
>
> I share Ted's praise of the Küat NV2.0. Mine has been one of the best bike
> investments I've made. It fits my 50” wheelbase medium Gus no problem,
> although it pushes it to its absolute maxium. When they say 50” is the max.
> wheelbase, they mean it.
>
> 1Up makes a very fine rack, but if your bike has fenders, or if you think
> you'll want to carry a friend's bike who has fenders, you may want to
> consider the Küat over the 1Up. Reason being, the Küat swing arm will still
> s

Re: [RBW] Re: Bike Rack

[Sally Bidleman]

Thanks very much! I looked up Hollywood bike carriers and they seem great,
too. Our local shop is closed today but website indicates they may have
these in the warehouse...Hope to see one and compare.

On Sun, Nov 5, 2023 at 4:09 AM 'peech1...@yahoo.com' via RBW Owners Bunch <
rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com> wrote:

> The Hollywood bike carrier accomodates wider tires, longer wheelbases and
> fenders.  Fairly low price. well made.  I have been pleased with it for the
> 2 years I have been using it.
>
> On Saturday, November 4, 2023 at 7:01:51 PM UTC-5 SallyG wrote:
>
>> Hi Brian,
>>
>> Great info, especially re: the fenders! I have fenders on my Clem and
>> just ordered some for my husband's incoming Platypus.
>>
>> Thanks much!
>>
>> On Sat, Nov 4, 2023 at 4:50 PM Brian Turner  wrote:
>>
>>> I share Ted’s praise of the Küat NV2.0. Mine has been one of the best
>>> bike investments I’ve made. It fits my 50” wheelbase medium Gus no problem,
>>> although it pushes it to its absolute maxium. When they say 50” is the max.
>>> wheelbase, they mean it.
>>>
>>> 1Up makes a very fine rack, but if your bike has fenders, or if you
>>> think you’ll want to carry a friend’s bike who has fenders, you may want to
>>> consider the Küat over the 1Up. Reason being, the Küat swing arm will still
>>> securely hold the front wheel as long as you get it as close to the front
>>> edge of the fender as possible. Unlike the 1Up, there’s no rear swing arm
>>> on the Küat to clamp down on (and potentially deform) your rear fender. My
>>> Küat has carried multiple fendered bikes thousands of miles on long road
>>> trips with no issues whatsoever.
>>>
>>> On Nov 4, 2023, at 7:29 PM, Sally Bidleman <3mu...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> 
>>> Thanks, Ted! I just checked our local bike shop and, while they don't
>>> have 1UP, they can bring a Kuat NV2 down the grade from their warehouse in
>>> a couple days for us to try. Very excited to expand our biking radius,
>>> albeit (partially) by auto! Now, if I can only locate a Jakob Ingebrigtsen
>>> running cap for my son's birthday, I'll be 2 for 2 today, ha.
>>>
>>> Appreciate this group!!
>>>
>>> On Sat, Nov 4, 2023 at 2:53 PM Ted W  wrote:
>>>
>>>> Highly recommend the Kuat NV2 or 1UP as previously recommended. I have
>>>> the NV2 and it’s the best rack I’ve ever owned. Can easily carry any bike I
>>>> have. The only one that pushes the limits a bit is my Gus, I wouldn’t want
>>>> to try anything longer. The only reason I didn’t get the 1UP was due to
>>>> availability at the time.
>>>>
>>>> On Sat, Nov 4, 2023 at 5:00 PM <3mu...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Thanks Johnny! Subaru XTrek 2 inch hitch.
>>>>>
>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>
>>>>> On Nov 4, 2023, at 1:44 PM, Johnny Alien  wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> For like a car? If so 1UP will be my whole hearted recommendation.
>>>>> Best product I ever bought and works great for long wheelbases.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Saturday, November 4, 2023 at 3:35:15 PM UTC-4 SallyG wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi all!
>>>>>> Any bike rack you'd recommend for Clem Smith L 45 cm and future Platy
>>>>>> 50 cm for husband? Kuat or? Model? Thanks for any help!
>>>>>> Sally
>>>>>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Bike Rack

[Sally Bidleman]

Hi Brian,

Great info, especially re: the fenders! I have fenders on my Clem and just
ordered some for my husband's incoming Platypus.

Thanks much!

On Sat, Nov 4, 2023 at 4:50 PM Brian Turner  wrote:

> I share Ted’s praise of the Küat NV2.0. Mine has been one of the best bike
> investments I’ve made. It fits my 50” wheelbase medium Gus no problem,
> although it pushes it to its absolute maxium. When they say 50” is the max.
> wheelbase, they mean it.
>
> 1Up makes a very fine rack, but if your bike has fenders, or if you think
> you’ll want to carry a friend’s bike who has fenders, you may want to
> consider the Küat over the 1Up. Reason being, the Küat swing arm will still
> securely hold the front wheel as long as you get it as close to the front
> edge of the fender as possible. Unlike the 1Up, there’s no rear swing arm
> on the Küat to clamp down on (and potentially deform) your rear fender. My
> Küat has carried multiple fendered bikes thousands of miles on long road
> trips with no issues whatsoever.
>
> On Nov 4, 2023, at 7:29 PM, Sally Bidleman <3mun...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> 
> Thanks, Ted! I just checked our local bike shop and, while they don't have
> 1UP, they can bring a Kuat NV2 down the grade from their warehouse in a
> couple days for us to try. Very excited to expand our biking radius, albeit
> (partially) by auto! Now, if I can only locate a Jakob Ingebrigtsen running
> cap for my son's birthday, I'll be 2 for 2 today, ha.
>
> Appreciate this group!!
>
> On Sat, Nov 4, 2023 at 2:53 PM Ted W  wrote:
>
>> Highly recommend the Kuat NV2 or 1UP as previously recommended. I have
>> the NV2 and it’s the best rack I’ve ever owned. Can easily carry any bike I
>> have. The only one that pushes the limits a bit is my Gus, I wouldn’t want
>> to try anything longer. The only reason I didn’t get the 1UP was due to
>> availability at the time.
>>
>> On Sat, Nov 4, 2023 at 5:00 PM <3mun...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks Johnny! Subaru XTrek 2 inch hitch.
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>> On Nov 4, 2023, at 1:44 PM, Johnny Alien 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> For like a car? If so 1UP will be my whole hearted recommendation. Best
>>> product I ever bought and works great for long wheelbases.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Saturday, November 4, 2023 at 3:35:15 PM UTC-4 SallyG wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi all!
>>>> Any bike rack you'd recommend for Clem Smith L 45 cm and future Platy
>>>> 50 cm for husband? Kuat or? Model? Thanks for any help!
>>>> Sally
>>>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Bike Rack

[Sally Bidleman]

Thanks, Ted! I just checked our local bike shop and, while they don't have
1UP, they can bring a Kuat NV2 down the grade from their warehouse in a
couple days for us to try. Very excited to expand our biking radius, albeit
(partially) by auto! Now, if I can only locate a Jakob Ingebrigtsen running
cap for my son's birthday, I'll be 2 for 2 today, ha.

Appreciate this group!!

On Sat, Nov 4, 2023 at 2:53 PM Ted W  wrote:

> Highly recommend the Kuat NV2 or 1UP as previously recommended. I have the
> NV2 and it’s the best rack I’ve ever owned. Can easily carry any bike I
> have. The only one that pushes the limits a bit is my Gus, I wouldn’t want
> to try anything longer. The only reason I didn’t get the 1UP was due to
> availability at the time.
>
> On Sat, Nov 4, 2023 at 5:00 PM <3mun...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Thanks Johnny! Subaru XTrek 2 inch hitch.
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Nov 4, 2023, at 1:44 PM, Johnny Alien 
>> wrote:
>>
>> For like a car? If so 1UP will be my whole hearted recommendation. Best
>> product I ever bought and works great for long wheelbases.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Saturday, November 4, 2023 at 3:35:15 PM UTC-4 SallyG wrote:
>>
>>> Hi all!
>>> Any bike rack you'd recommend for Clem Smith L 45 cm and future Platy 50
>>> cm for husband? Kuat or? Model? Thanks for any help!
>>> Sally
>>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Who’s getting a Platypus tomorrow?

[Sally Bidleman]

Peter, great info re: the Mardi Gras colors! I'm thinking of gold + green,
harlequin-style, for the purple bike.

(I'm also remembering the smell of sweet olive blossoms and the taste of a
real beignet and the sound of Preservation Hall...my mom was born there and
I love to visit!)

S.

On Sat, Oct 21, 2023 at 12:00 PM Peter Adler  wrote:

> Green + purple + yellow = Mardi Gras bike. Go to New Orleans during the
> season, and all the plastic beads thrown from the parade floats are in
> those three colors. Maybe yellow bar tape or water bottles.
>
> Peter "laisse les bons temps rouler sur vélo" Adler
> Berkeley, CA
>
> On Thursday, October 19, 2023 at 7:04:20 AM UTC-7 Josh C wrote:
>
>
> I’m hoping to snag a 50cm green complete for my wife. I’ve had several
> Rivs and she’s never had the experience. She’s mentioned several times that
> a step-through style bike interests her. She has some purple Paul bits on
> her current bike that I think will look nice with the green instead of two
> different purples.
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Re: [RBW] Re: Who’s getting a Platypus tomorrow?

[Sally Bidleman]

Yes!

During last-minute stealth research, I discovered my husband actually
preferred purple! So this wonderful, very purple, bike will arrive between
his birthday and Xmas; I can cover both:) Best of all, his PBH is only 2 cm
different from mine; I can ride it, too...AND I get to pick out the color
for his handlebar tape...Much joy in the household tonight...!

On Thu, Oct 19, 2023 at 4:13 PM Leah Peterson 
wrote:

> What a beautiful note you left us, Armand. I really hope you do that
> Platypus write-up when the time comes because I would very much like to
> read it.
>
> I’m certain your Platypus will bring you into your daily bike ride realm
> better than any bike you’ve ever ridden. It’s so smooth. So effortless. A
> real joy-bringer.
>
> Congrats on your new bike and to everyone else who got one today, too. Did
> the rest of you on this thread get the Platypus you were trying for?
>
> Leah
>
> On Oct 19, 2023, at 5:22 PM, Armand Kizirian 
> wrote:
>
> After 18 years of near daily riding, and a few attempts at hodge podge
> 80s mtn bikes turned commuters that have come and gone, I plan on getting
> my first Riv, a Platypus.
>
> It is an entirely unnecessary purchase. I have had a two bicycle quiver
> for a majority of my adult life with resounding success. A Salsa Vaya and
> various steel hardtail mtb’s, both capable of spirited or loaded riding
> with more than enough comfort.
>
> I now have the luxury of all my commuting to be done in a 6 mile radius,
> 80% of the time. After incorporating silent retreats into my meditation
> practice a few years ago, the last bit of riding “fast” has lost its
> appeal, and a slower, more intentional pace of life has pervaded the way in
> which I move through the world (exceptions made for descending technical
> singletrack ;).
>
> This third addition, which I hope to have for another 18 years, will help
> bring something incredibly near and dear to me—my daily bike rides—into
> that realm.
>
> This is an impressive amount of money to spend on what most would consider
> to be a simple, upright, commuter bike, featuring a sun race drivetrain.
> Yet, still a bargain compared to traditionally built Riv’s. However, we all
> know where the value lies. I will collect my own parts slowly and make it
> my own.
>
> A 55cm purple Platypus for me. As a designer, Im not in love with the
> color. I find it a bit too saturated and flat, but at least it’s fun and
> different. I think this should be the last Ana Purple run. There are far
> too many glorious colors to have several Riv runs in one. I will close the
> gap with letting go of seemingly unnecessary preferences, something I’ve
> been experimenting with throughout my life lately with great success.
> Something that seems in line with the Rivendell “way.”
>
> I hope to post an excessively thorough review of the bicycle, with a ride
> report, through the lens of my background as an industrial designer,
> engineer, and most importantly, human being. :)
>
> Good luck to all!
>
>
>
> On Thursday, October 19, 2023 at 7:04:20 AM UTC-7 Josh C wrote:
>
>>
>> I’m hoping to snag a 50cm green complete for my wife. I’ve had several
>> Rivs and she’s never had the experience. She’s mentioned several times that
>> a step-through style bike interests her. She has some purple Paul bits on
>> her current bike that I think will look nice with the green instead of two
>> different purples.
>>
>> This would be her townie bike. We ride to dinner, concerts, drinks,
>> casual 20-mile-ish family rides. That sort of thing. Her current rig is an
>> Indy fab titanium cross frame that, while being stupid light, simply
>> doesn’t have all of the options for racks and fenders that a Riv does.
>> She’ll love the fact that she can have fenders and the like.
>> On Wednesday, October 18, 2023 at 10:42:07 PM UTC-4 RBW Owners Bunch
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I'm certainly not in a position to by one but feel compelled to say that
>>> while I have not been a fan of any of the purple frames Riv has been doing
>>> (and frustrated that they are so hung up on it) the Platy looks so
>>> fantastic in that color.
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, October 18, 2023 at 9:47:08 PM UTC-4 SallyG wrote:
>>>
 Will try for a 50 cm complete green for husband's Xmas present! Going
 to be tricky at work but I have supportive so-workers who know it's
 Platypus Day tomorrow:)

 On Wednesday, October 18, 2023 at 6:40:42 PM UTC-7 Bicycle Belle Ding
 Ding! wrote:

> The preorder email was sent out today! Did you read it? Lots of
> completes for sale but only 24 frames.
>
> Set to arrive end of November. Sad you’ll have to wait so long.
>
> Who is getting one?
>
> What color?
>
> What plans for the bike?
>
> I just had a gorgeous 27 miles on my mermaid Platy today. Sublimely
> comfortable. Plenty fast.
>
> Leah
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Re: [RBW] Re: Style on the bike

[Sally Bidleman]

Leah and Company,

Excellent reading; thank you! As a new Riv Rider, I've been  remiss in
considering legwear  (only sported old sweatpants that I can push up as
necessary). I've concentrated more on topsFrench-ish stripes and
Kule-brand "Thank you, have a nice day" t-shirts, etc. And Birkenstocks or
Hokas...Certainly, I aspire to being cuter, but have yet to find a fashion
that will minimize incessant eye-rolling of 22-year-old daughter, ha!

Sally

On Sat, Sep 9, 2023 at 8:42 AM Leah Peterson 
wrote:

> Justus, I had never heard of these brands and looked them up - I love
> them. They are for men, but I would encourage other men on this list to
> shop there because the clothes look fantastic. Jealous!
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Sep 9, 2023, at 11:15 AM, J G  wrote:
>
> While I still kit up (to a lesser or greater extent) for bigger rides, I
> converged biking and daily wear about a dozen years ago.  Search and State
> and Mission Workshop on the kit end and brands like Outlier and Swrve along
> with Icebreaker and the original Ibex provided daily wear options that
> performed well on a bike.  Outlier generally leaning a bit more to the
> office friendly and fashion end and Swrve with more gussets and
> articulation leans to the all day on a bike side.  Added bonus is that both
> companies work with interesting high performance fabrics with Outlier
> having that at its core and Swrve generally doing special runs via their
> blk_label line.  Both companies also originally had all of their production
> in NYC and SF respectively and I try and support small businesses with
> sound ethics where I can.  Speaking of that, Kitsbow would be another
> mention as I really liked their wool Icon shirts, but they have recently
> gone under.
>
> Fashions change, style endures.  Keep wearing those skinny jeans and high
> boots if you like them.  Whatever gear makes a bike most accessible to you
> is the good stuff.
>
> -Justus
> Mpls, MN
> On Saturday, September 9, 2023 at 9:44:06 AM UTC-5 Tom Goodmann wrote:
>
>> I empathize, Leah. Not being one for beausage in any area of life, I am
>> okay with wear and character on boots, but not with chain grease on pants.
>> You might try various ankle straps; those with velcro seem to have limited
>> effectiveness, as your experience suggest, and wear out over time. But
>> there are many others out there that may be more effective, either with an
>> extended strap mechanism or with a clip design (as seen in old British
>> films).  I'm sure you can find a design that will have you rockin' the 90s
>> grease-free!
>>
>> Tom (who commuted to campus by bike for years, mostly grease-free)
>>
>> On Saturday, September 9, 2023 at 10:13:39 AM UTC-4 Bicycle Belle Ding
>> Ding! wrote:
>>
>>> This might be a thread most of the guys scroll right on past. But where
>>> are my RivSisters? Are you here for this? Can we talk about fashion on the
>>> bike?
>>>
>>> The 90s styles have come back this fall, and since the late 90s was my
>>> era, I am in raptures over here. Cargo pants and wide leg jeans are back,
>>> and better. High-waisted (instead of low-slung) and in every fabric you
>>> could dream up. I have thrown myself whole-heartedly onto this band wagon.
>>> I have a super wide leg denim trouser, a relaxed cargo pant in green, a
>>> charcoal cargo pant in straight leg, and a black corduroy wide leg trouser.
>>>
>>> But. Don’t we all know that the absolute zenith for bike style was the
>>> era of the skinny jean with tall boots? Skinny jeans tucked into tall
>>> riding boots never got caught in any drivetrains. You never, ever worried
>>> about getting grease on your pants legs in the skinny jean era.
>>>
>>> Yesterday I decided to cycle to downtown and meet my husband for lunch.
>>> I really wanted to wear my new pants but did some hand-wringing over
>>> getting them dirty. I remembered the reflective ankle strap buried in my
>>> Saddlesack for such a time as this, slapped it on and rode off. But those
>>> straps work better in theory than in real life because by the time I got
>>> home, well…here’s a photo.
>>>
>>> I thought about this. I don’t want to only dress for the bike. I want to
>>> have some cultural relevance and not be stuck in outdated clothes (ironic,
>>> since I’m trying to wear 90s, here) just because they are good for biking.
>>> My bike gives me freedom, not limits. My husband says, “You’re just going
>>> to have a grease spot on your pants. Accept it. It’s cute.”
>>>
>>> My other concern is my boots. The spikes on my Spank Oozy pedals will
>>> mark up the toe of my Red Wing and Frye boots when I use the toe to move
>>> the pedal to 2:00. I buy shoes that are meant to last, and it does pain me
>>> that these are getting chewed up. But, I think I’ve decided to accept the
>>> damage to expensive boots, too. If I don’t, I’ll be stuck in Keens and
>>> sneakers year-round.
>>>
>>> And then I wondered about all of you. Do you only dress for your bike?
>>> Do you wear 

Re: [RBW] Re: Babies on bikes

[Sally Bidleman]

Love back! And more RNs...my (RN) son is marrying his (RN) girlfriend in 2
weeks...woo-hoo...

Have a great day...I'm putting on my new Crane bell today and going for a
ride:)

Sally

On Sun, Sep 3, 2023 at 11:25 AM Leah Peterson 
wrote:

> If you’re a RivSister who is also a nurse I love you extra! A double
> sisterhood.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Sep 3, 2023, at 12:52 PM, Bones  wrote:
>
> For whatever reason I have never considered a trailer. I always assumed
> we could communicate and enjoy the ride better if the kids were on the bike
> with me. I started my oldest at nine months, which was when the tiniest
> helmet I could find would fit her massive head. The front mount seat is the
> best in my opinion. You can interact a lot more and they get to see
> everything you see. Once she outgrew that I moved her to a rear seat, and
> put lil man in the front. Eventually they reached the weight limits and I
> switched over to a cargo bike (Xtracycle Stoker). Now big sis, lil man and
> baby girl all fit on the back. We go everywhere on it. Love it. I was able
> to get rid of a car and I can accommodate all three kids easily.
>
> Bones
>
> On Sunday, September 3, 2023 at 12:06:31 PM UTC-4 SallyG wrote:
>
>> We used a Burley double-wide when our kids were 2 and 3.5...We hooked it
>> to my husband's old Giant mountain bike. Traffic was non-existent or very
>> light since we lived on a small island. The kids liked it because they
>> could bring various stuffed animals, so we could get a long-ish ride in
>> ...When we moved to San Diego, the trailer seemed too wide for the streets
>> so we got a Tag-a-long...it didn't seem as safe and, by that time, the kids
>> wanted to ride their own bikes...so we didn't use it much. (P.S. I'm
>> another nurse...seems like nurses choose Rivendell, ha!)
>>
>> On Saturday, September 2, 2023 at 6:28:45 PM UTC-7 Patrick Moore wrote:
>>
>>> +1 for a trailer. One advantage of a trailer is that you can use it with
>>> a bike that is not well suited for a heavy load on the rear rack; and I
>>> agree, they don't change the handling and feel of the bike as much as a big
>>> and high rear-rack weight does. And they allow easier mounting.
>>>
>>> Mine was a "doublewide" and let me combine child hauling with grocery
>>> shopping: my daughter and I would combine bicycle fun with grocery shopping
>>> on Saturday mornings, she on one side, the paper grocery sacks on the
>>> other, usually with a helium balloon or two in our slipstream.
>>>
>>> My tractor was a early-edition Raleigh Technium sports tourer, a tank
>>> with long stays and flexy tubes stuck into gaspipe lugs, but with 32 mm
>>> tires (fat at the time, early '00s) it was very plush. I had it set up with
>>> a 67" fixed gear, just right: low enough to grunt Catie and groceries up
>>> minor hills or pull the doublewide against headwinds, fast enough to keep
>>> up with modest tailwinds.
>>>
>>> You don't need a name brand. I forget what I had; it was decent but not
>>> a Burley or a Thule; Avocet? It worked fine and by the time you get to the
>>> point of experiencing the longevity of an expensive brand your child has
>>> long outgrown it. I did later get a used Burley trail-a-bike but by the
>>> time my daughter was old enough to ride it she was embarrassed to be seen
>>> on it and demanded her own bike.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sat, Sep 2, 2023 at 7:05 PM Eliot Balogh  wrote:
>>>
 A trailer is the safest option. If you go that route I would consider a
 Thule or older Chariot (these can be had very inexpensively). They have
 weight adjustable suspension and you can use an infant sling. The general
 age recommendation is to wait until 12-18 months but we certainly started
 closer to 6 months (My wife and I are both nurse practitioners and got the
 Ok from his pediatrician). It will very from child to child but once they
 are demonstrating strong head and neck control they should be ok in an
 infant sling.

 I personally prefer a Thule Maxi seat on a rack behind me. It’s just
 nice not having to deal with the weight and logistics of a trailer. We only
 just started doing that on our Cargo E bike now that he’s 16 months and
 gets to ride to daycare.

 Eliot

 On Sat, Sep 2, 2023 at 5:54 PM Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! <
 jonasa...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi Kushan,
>
> Oh, I so know that excitement you feel about introducing your baby to
> biking. It’s wonderful that you want to share it and it will be such a
> bonding experience between the both of you as he grows up.
>
> Is the plan to put him in a bike seat on your bike? Or in a cargo
> bike? In a car seat inside a cargo bike? I think the last option is the
> only one I could safely recommend, and maybe not even that. I am a nurse,
> and I won’t ever forget the part of our pediatrics training that talked
> about the microtears that can be caused even by bouncing a baby too