Re: [RBW] Current indexing systems and shifting in general, per the Knothole

[Scott Henry]

And the lady who didn't charge her battery probably wouldn't charge her
lights, or lube her cables or replace her chain or...

Too bad this didn't come up on yesterday's women's day.   Maybe her husband
can show her how her bike works.


On Thu, Mar 9, 2017 at 4:04 PM, Steve Palincsar <palin...@his.com> wrote:

>
>
> On 03/09/2017 03:55 PM, Scott Henry wrote:
>
> Not sure on why you would need a tablet.   Do you take extra cables and
> spokes on your rides too?
>
> For the most part, electric shifting is pretty rock steady.   Being with a
> shop that sells them, I've had one DI2 come back.   One.   I stopped trying
> to see how long the battery lasts, It just keeps going and going.
>
>
> If you mean how long a *charge* lasts, I had a woman on a ride I led last
> month whose DI2 unit went into the first warning mode of low charge,
> shifting to the small chain ring and refusing to budge from it.  This
> happened something like 15 miles into the ride, and she spent the rest of
> the ride rationing shifts hoping to finish the ride before the unit quit
> working entirely.  It had been "a very long time," she said, since she'd
> even checked the state of charge, never mind charged the system, and had no
> clue how many miles she'd gone.   It may be rare, and it may take a long
> time to get to that state, but it definitely does happen.
>
>
> I've stopped counting defective cable actuated parts.   No need to count
> really, we have an open RA number for Sram.Best warranty  program in
> the business.  Though  if they didn't build crap they wouldn't need it.
>
> Some people can break anything.   They shouldn't have nice things.
>
>
> Moreish on the topic.   Clamp on front derailleurs are the way to go.
> My 46x28 likes them.
>
>
> Yes, they're great - but they do require a round seat tube and OMG how
> boring is that, right?
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Re: [RBW] Current indexing systems and shifting in general, per the Knothole

[Scott Henry]

Not sure on why you would need a tablet.   Do you take extra cables and
spokes on your rides too?

For the most part, electric shifting is pretty rock steady.   Being with a
shop that sells them, I've had one DI2 come back.   One.   I stopped trying
to see how long the battery lasts, It just keeps going and going.
I've stopped counting defective cable actuated parts.   No need to count
really, we have an open RA number for Sram.Best warranty  program in
the business.  Though  if they didn't build crap they wouldn't need it.

Some people can break anything.   They shouldn't have nice things.


Moreish on the topic.   Clamp on front derailleurs are the way to go.My
46x28 likes them.
Scott



On Thu, Mar 9, 2017 at 3:33 PM, Jim Bronson  wrote:

> The one Randonneur that I know who has electronic shifting, it has failed
> him twice on long brevets.  He says hooking it up to his laptop and
> resetting the whole system fixes it.  He's an extremely strong rider
> despite being in his mid-60s and he can deal with having front shifting
> only.
>
> Last time this topic came up I researched some Windows 10 tablets on
> Amazon and there were some that weighed less than a pound that cost around
> $100.  That would be the price for me to get electronic shifting, I would
> have to have something with me on the bike that could run Shimano's
> software for troubleshooting..  I would need to have the tools to service
> it in the field.  I am not strong enough to just jam it up steep hills with
> whatever gearing that I had available with the rear derailer fixed in place.
>
> On Wed, Mar 8, 2017 at 3:21 PM, Brewster Fong  wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> On Wednesday, March 8, 2017 at 12:41:59 PM UTC-8, Steve Palincsar wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> With Shimano road 11 they've taken road cassettes to 32T, but for many
>>> with the usual (and often not replaceable with any better gearing) 34/50
>>> that's not a low enough low gear.  It was much simpler in 10 speed days:
>>> replace cassette and rear derailleur as noted above and you're good up to
>>> 36T in back.  That won't work with 11, and it's necessary to enter the
>>> world of altering cable pull.
>>>
>>>
>>> Agree.  With 11 speed, all of the different platforms work with each
>> other. So you can mix Campy, Shimano and Sram wheels and cassettes.  With
>> my friends, several have gone to bigger gearing like 11-32 or 11-36 and one
>> friend just picked up an 11-40 or 12-40, so don't know if that will work. I
>> know there's also 12-42 and I think either an 11-50 or 12-50 11 speed
>> cassette!  The key is you need to have a "mid-cage" RD.  All of these big
>> gear cassette is being driven by the latest "1 by" movement. But that
>> doesn't stop you found adapting to a bike with a double or even a triple
>> crank!  Of course, you may need a "mid-cage" RD and the wolf tooth thing.
>>
>> For my next bike, I'm planning on going etap "wireless" with mid-cage RD.
>> I want to run 11-32 in the rear with a sub-compact double like a 46x30 or
>> 46x28.  Since I don't "tour" or carry a load, a 30x32 or 28x32 should be
>> more than enough to get me up the hills around here! Of course, YMMV!  Good
>> Luck!
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Re: [RBW] Re: FS: 58cm Blu Ram

[Scott Henry]

Or decide if you are going to sell it and then post a real for sale listing


On Tue, Mar 7, 2017 at 2:49 PM, Daniel Jackson <
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> Fork?
>
> Pictures?
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Re: [RBW] Re: When is a bike old?

[Scott Henry]

The people who aren't charging batteries are the same people who don't
check chain wear and/or don't replace cables till they break.

As for bikes, I'd say that anything over 10 years counts as old.


On Tue, Feb 28, 2017 at 1:32 PM, Ryan Fleming 
wrote:

> Not exotic, but my early 70's Peugeot PX-10 rides very well as wellin
> spite of it's working-class origins
>
> On Tuesday, February 28, 2017 at 12:29:52 PM UTC-6, Eric Norris wrote:
>>
>> One of my favorite bikes was built in the early 70s and is still going
>> strong. I just bought a bike built about 35 years ago, and it rides
>> extremely well.
>>
>> Properly maintained, a steel bike will last almost forever.
>>
>> --Eric Norris
>> campyo...@me.com
>> @CampyOnlyguy (Twitter/Instagram)
>>
>> On Feb 28, 2017, at 10:27 AM, Christopher Murray 
>> wrote:
>>
>> I'd say steel bikes are like people- 40-50 years is probably  about
>> middle aged.
>>
>> Cheers!
>> Chris
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Re: [RBW] Re: Kogswell P vs. Rambouillet

[Scott Henry]

I do love my P60, its on my "do not ever sell" list.   I wouldn't say the
lugs were unique though, they were the Kirk Pacenti OS carving blanks, they
were just uncarved.

Great riding bike though.   I can fit 32's, 28's with fenders.   It was
from an earlier Riv-influence era.   Fancier, faster riding bikes rather
than the country-hobo style


On Tue, Feb 28, 2017 at 8:15 AM, Chris in Redding, Ca. <
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> Hey All,
> I owned a second gen Model P and also a Romulus. I found the Romulus to be
> over tubed. There must also be some differences in the tubeset because the
> Rom felt mushy when pushed hard compared to the Model P and other similar
> steel road frames I have owned. The Model P was a kick in the pants to ride
> unloaded and kept it's composure when lightly loaded or pushed hard. The
> geometry between them was at least real close...that I remember from
> reading the charts way back then. The lugs are unique and from Matt Grimm
> from his 'lugged' days. Last I spoke to Matt he was hanging out in Berkeley
> Ca.
>
> Smooth Tracks,
> Chris
> Redding, Ca.
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Re: [RBW] Re: PSA: VP Pedals on sale

[Scott Henry]

This is always a fun read everytime it comes up.
I never vote with my wallet.   I let companies vote for my business with
their pricing.

I know what I want and I know what I'm buying, I assume that most on this
list do as well, I don't need to be sold anything.

If I head to a store (of any type)  and they have something I want cheap,
I'll buy it.  Otherwise, why spend more?   I have worked on and off in bike
shops for 25 years.  Here is a secret, most shops don't like ordering
things for customers.   It's out of their routine, it's not what they
already paid for to stock and it's an extra thing to do.   Most shops place
an order weekly, a few will order twice weekly.   But its still a pain to
do the extra steps for a one-off.   Plus, I can order damn near anything
right off of my phone and have it within 2-3 days.   That's pretty darn
convenient, and I am a man of convenience.

I was killing some time waiting for a friend last weekend and I pulled into
a Field and Stream store.  They had a rather nice carry pistol, a Ruger LCP
2, for $350.   A few second on my phone and it turns out Cabela's which is
a few miles away has it for $300.   Where do you think I spent money?
Both are my "local" store.  Both employ "local" people.   One Just does a
better job at cost management, inventory control and cost cutting and
regulation.

The $50 I saved went right into an eBay seller on a pair of Modolo anatomic
brake hoods that were probably $8 back in the 80s.
All the dollars always get spent.   Its just a measure of who gets them.

For the record, the 001 pedals are nice but routinely go for right about
$45 online.
Cheers,
Scott




On Thu, Feb 16, 2017 at 12:15 AM, iamkeith  wrote:

> Joe, i dont mean to answer for grant, and am not at all certain there's
> any common thread, but thought this news story from today was interesting -
> about warren buffett signaling the "death of retail." Seems that even the
> businesses that once killed the other businesses are struggling to stay
> alive:
>
> https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/companies/warren-
> buffett-just-dropped-walmart-and-signaled-the-death-of-
> retail-as-we-know-it/ar-AAmWKmg
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Re: [RBW] S24o Kit Evaluation

[Scott Henry]

For kayak camping I will use one of the silver emergency blankets, the ones
folded about the size of a deck of cards, in the hammock between the
hammock and the sleeping bag.
Cheap, easy and quick.

My sons taught me the trick.
Scott


On Tue, Jan 31, 2017 at 7:41 AM, Jeff Lesperance 
wrote:

> I just started hammock camping this past year with a Hennessy hammock,
> which is more of a suspended tent than a hammock, so I'm already carrying a
> fairly hefty shelter vs. your ultralight hammock. I've brought along my
> Thermarest pad all but once, and I never regretted having it, and the one
> time that I didn't bring it - smack in the middle of the summer in the
> mid-Atlantic, I felt cool, but not cold in the middle of the night. This
> comes with a caveat that I was using my Big Agnes sleeping bag that doesn't
> have any padding or insulation on the bottom, rather it has a sleeve to
> hold a pad, so it's more of a blanket with a pocket for a pad.
>
> I've looked at options for adding an insulation or barrier layer to the
> underside of the hammock itself vs. using the Thermarest. Hennesy offers
> this for their hammocks and it looks like I could get away with something
> lighter and less bulky than a Thermarest with this style of solution.
>
> I think I also agree with Bob's comments on clothing, particularly for an
> s24o. I do like comfort, but for an s24o I've gotten right with the idea
> that it's okay, maybe even good, to find myself uncomfortable on occasion.
> I was a Boy Scout in my youth and the motto of "Be Prepared" is in my DNA
> at this point, so it's almost a moment of self-rebellion to not pack an
> extra-extra pair of socks, and shirt, and pants, and... but it's nice to
> get by with the clothes on your back and a decent pocket knife sometimes -
> always have the pocket knife, and means to make coffee.
>
> -Jeff
> Silver Spring, MD
>
> On Tue, Jan 31, 2017 at 6:32 AM, Bob K.  wrote:
>
>> I've only done a bit of bike camping thus far--more backpacking--but in
>> my estimation you're bringing way too much clothing. The weight and bulk
>> add up quickly, and I've come back from far too many trips with unused
>> clothing in the bottom of my backpack. I would, however, definitely add a
>> sleeping pad.
>>
>> YMMV, etc.
>>
>> Bob K. in Baltimore
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Re: [RBW] Re: Multi Use Path Etiquette

[Scott Henry]

I have never heard the term Fred to denote a racer type persona.   It has
been used since the mid80s in person and in magazines to describe what now
is a BoB.


On Mon, Jan 2, 2017 at 2:01 PM, George Schick  wrote:

> The term "fred" seems to have morphed into a myriad of meanings nowadays
> (according to a look-up in the Urban Dictionary, anyway), but the way it
> gets used "locally" implies someone who portrays him/herself as a racer,
> decked out in the some of the priciest gear from head to toe, rides an
> expensive professional-class bike, and goes out on the MUP's instead of the
> street where he probably belongs, to seemingly prove to everyone else out
> there how great he is.  There are lots of riders in this area who depart
> from an LBS just down the street from me most every evening during the
> regular riding season in a large pack; but they ride and carry out their
> training entirely on the streets and roads.
>
> As far as attire is concerned, I wear lycra and have sub-35 tires, too
> (though not by much), and it's all fine.  But the freds seem to like to
> take things to the extreme even where it's impractical.  Most of the MUP's
> in this area are surfaced with compacted "limestone screenings," the fine
> and often powdery stuff that's left at the bottom after all the other sizes
> of crushed limestone rock have been sorted.  How anyone can ride on the
> stuff with something like 25's is beyond me, but you see 'em out there.
>
>
> On Monday, January 2, 2017 at 11:47:25 AM UTC-6, Steve Palincsar wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> On 01/02/2017 11:14 AM, George Schick wrote:
>>
>> Agreed (and also with Lum Gim's comment).  And BTW, those "in lycra with
>> skinny tires" are usually known by the slang term "freds."
>>
>>
>> Are you sure?  When did that happen?  When they first started using the
>> term, it applied to us, not to them.  Googling the term, I retrieved this:
>>
>> *Fred is a derisive term used by “serious” road cyclists to describe
>> other cyclists who do not conform to serious road cyclists' norms with
>> regard to dress and equipment, and appear amateurish to them. The term is
>> generally reserved for men, while the female Fred is sometimes called a
>> “Doris.”**Apr 2, 2011*
>>
>> Sure sounds like a "roadie's" view of us...
>>
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Re: [RBW] Crankset snafu and front derailleur conundrum

[Scott Henry]

Just about any FD will handle that.
Build it and ride it.


On Fri, Dec 30, 2016 at 8:53 AM, Dan McNamara  wrote:

> I am running the SunXCD crankset with TA chainrings 46/28 using the IRD
> Alpina-D front derailleur. It shifts perfectly.
>
> The CX-70 would work as well.
>
> Dan
>
> San Rafael, CA
>
> > On Dec 29, 2016, at 9:35 PM, Zach Duval  wrote:
> >
> > I ordered a SUNXCD double crankset through a European dealer for a new
> build, and unfortunately they included a 28 tooth chainring in place of the
> 30 I ordered. The large chainring is a 46, so this now leaves me with an 18
> tooth gap rather than 16.
> >
> > Are there any attractive front derailleurs that can handle that range?
> >
> > I'm hoping to run the Riv Bullmoose bars with Microshift (I believe) bar
> ends on thumbies.
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Re: [RBW] Re: Multi Use Path Etiquette

[Scott Henry]

OK, sorry.   I guess I didn't understand the first post.
Always do what they say, the first time, every time.




On Thu, Dec 29, 2016 at 10:10 AM, Ron Mc  wrote:

> Maybe it's the real estate - all our greenways are in the flood plains.
> And so are the police stations - our greenways connect all the police
> stations.  There are always officers on the trails, in addition to Trail
> Stewards.
> It's a good thing.
>
> On Thursday, December 29, 2016 at 9:03:15 AM UTC-6, Skenry wrote:
>>
>> Please if you are going to be disparaging the work of America's police
>> forces, do it someplace other than a bike list.
>> Scott
>>
>> On Thu, Dec 29, 2016 at 9:55 AM, Garth  wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> I speak from a place of having given all, "complying" to all the implied
>>> powers that be, and yet all was never enough, more was never enough.  Yes,
>>> call it hell, but in the midst of nowhere left to turn but your Self . . .
>>> funny things seem to happen, you ask true honest questions within yourself,
>>> and you receive true honest answers from within, not what someone else
>>> claims is true, but a truth not relative to anyone or anything, really your
>>> very Self.   So, who would the criminal be anyways , the "powers that be"
>>> ?  Garth, Steve, John/Jane Doe, the law, the lawyers, the cops, the perps,
>>> any of "they and them" ?   Nope . . . none are .
>>>
>>> "forgive them for they know not what they do"
>>>
>>> and that's all
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thursday, December 29, 2016 at 8:44:13 AM UTC-5, Steve Palincsar
>>> wrote:




 You try running from a cop who wants to write you a ticket for running
 a
 stop sign or in some jurisdictions, failing to come to a foot-down stop
 at a stop sign.  I'm not threatening you, just pointing out that what
 you're suggesting could be a very dangerous course of action.  There
 are
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Re: [RBW] Re: Multi Use Path Etiquette

[Scott Henry]

Please if you are going to be disparaging the work of America's police
forces, do it someplace other than a bike list.
Scott

On Thu, Dec 29, 2016 at 9:55 AM, Garth  wrote:

>
> I speak from a place of having given all, "complying" to all the implied
> powers that be, and yet all was never enough, more was never enough.  Yes,
> call it hell, but in the midst of nowhere left to turn but your Self . . .
> funny things seem to happen, you ask true honest questions within yourself,
> and you receive true honest answers from within, not what someone else
> claims is true, but a truth not relative to anyone or anything, really your
> very Self.   So, who would the criminal be anyways , the "powers that be"
> ?  Garth, Steve, John/Jane Doe, the law, the lawyers, the cops, the perps,
> any of "they and them" ?   Nope . . . none are .
>
> "forgive them for they know not what they do"
>
> and that's all
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Thursday, December 29, 2016 at 8:44:13 AM UTC-5, Steve Palincsar wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> You try running from a cop who wants to write you a ticket for running a
>> stop sign or in some jurisdictions, failing to come to a foot-down stop
>> at a stop sign.  I'm not threatening you, just pointing out that what
>> you're suggesting could be a very dangerous course of action.  There are
>> very few "kids on bikes" reading this list.
>>
>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: girlfriend bike / crazy kickstand install

[Scott Henry]

Yep, sorry, that picture I clipped from Greenfield isn't the best.
The bolt is narrow and goes up via the bottom and threads into the new top
plate.Its oddly shaped to allow FD cables to pass in the tight areas.


On Wed, Dec 28, 2016 at 12:38 PM, eflayer  wrote:

> I "stand" corrected:
>
> http://www.niagaracycle.com/categories/greenfield-ks2sb-
> kickstand-with-retro-kit-black?gclid=Cj0KEQiA4o3DBRCJsZqh8vWqt_
> 8BEiQA2Fw0eSpQmaC512X9vvR1e_iF6XVegKG21BzdAiHkvQ2QVXwaAg3a8P8HAQ
>
> On Wednesday, December 28, 2016 at 8:57:11 AM UTC-8, S. Greco wrote:
>
>> My lovely girlfriend was finally ready to graduate from her Schwinn to
>> something a little nicer. She wasn't ready for a Riv despite my
>> recommendations. Her criteria was that it must be a step-through frame. My
>> criteria was that it must have a derailleur hanger - a proper one and not a
>> metal tab hanging off the drop out. This combination was surprisingly
>> harder to find than I thought it would be. I managed to find an old Colner
>> (Ernesto Colnago) on eBay for a decent price. It came with some Campy Gran
>> Compe and had internal top-tube routing which was a nice bonus. She
>> insisted that it have a kickstand though, which became more of a project
>> than I thought.
>>
>> I ordered the standard Pletscher Kickstand from Riv but due to the tight
>> geometry of the frame there isn't alot of room in the rear triangle. I had
>> to switch the hex bolt to a button head which was much more low-profile.
>> Then, realizing that the plate would sit crooked on the bottom bracket lugs
>> had to machine a little rabbet so that the plates would sit flush and clamp
>> properly. Lastly as this whole assembly was now blocking any chance of
>> getting at the chain stay bridge I had to bury a flat head in the chain
>> stay with a nylock so that there was a captive threaded post to bolt on the
>> fender.
>>
>> In the end I think it turned out to be a pretty sweet ride. I never
>> thought a kickstand install could be so complicated.
>> Next step is a brake upgrade, then I gotta replace these cottered cranks.
>>
>>
>> 
>>
>>
>>
>> 
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Re: [RBW] Multi Use Path Etiquette

[Scott Henry]

Am I the only one who avoids paths like the plague?Though I do have a
brass bell on a few of my bikes, but only for the beautiful look of
tarnished brass.

Ride on the road.
Scott


On Wed, Dec 28, 2016 at 9:25 AM, Steve Palincsar  wrote:

>
>
> On 12/27/2016 11:50 PM, Ashwath Akirekadu wrote:
>
>> I have always wondered this. Alerting pedestrians felt like I was
>> annoying them 99% of the times to avoid that 1% chance of collision.  I
>> love the beep beep suggestion.  Whenever my toddler son is riding with me,
>> I'm going to delegate beep beep responsibility to him.  Natural fit.
>> Win-win!
>>
>
> It can't be 99:1 -- far too many people say thanks when you do for it to
> be anything like that.  If anything, it's 1% annoyance vs 99% anything from
> thanks to indifference.
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Re: [RBW] ChocoMoose from 1987???

[Scott Henry]

He offers lots of really cool items for sale.
The market deals with the prices. Many of his items don't sell, many
do.
Free market.   Buyer beware.   All that stuff.

If you want it and he has it, he gets to control the price.You can't
complain about it just because you are on the wrong side of it.It's
called a job.





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> That guy sells some pretty neat NOS stuff at absurd prices, and he's an
> idiot.
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Re: [RBW] What is the RULE for Positioning the Tire Name on the Rim

[Scott Henry]

As a cyclist I place the label directly over the valve.

However, when I am at work on a customer's (or friend's) bike, I set up the
tire pressure rating imprint at the valve hole.  Most people here on
this, and a few others, go for wider / lower pressure tires.The cycling
industry most hasn't, those are the people constantly confused about
pressure.This little tip just makes it that much easier on them.

Just a thought.




On Friday, December 23, 2016, John Hawrylak <john.hawry...@verizon.net>
wrote:

> Thanks guys for the replies. I understand it better.   Reed, thanks for
> the link to Retrogrouch site.  I could not remember the name.
>
> John Hawrylak
> Woodstown NJ
>
> On Friday, December 23, 2016 at 7:08:26 PM UTC-5, John Hawrylak wrote:
>
>> Sorry for the softball question, but I always forget.  I want to say the
>> Tire Name is 180° from the Valve Stem and on the non-drive side.
>>
>> I searched for RULES but did not find the one which had a link to the
>> Rules.
>>
>> John Hawrylak
>> Woodstown NJ
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Re: [RBW] Who makes Canvas Panniers now?

[Scott Henry]

Frost Rivers actually ARE the old Riv Baggins panniers.

I think they look the best too, that's my vote.






On Tue, Dec 20, 2016 at 1:42 PM, Deacon Patrick  wrote:

> Who makes um and what is your experience with them, especially as it
> relates to:
> — ease of access
> — weatherproof
> — bikepacking and errand daily use heartiness
> — other issues that stand out?
>
> After years of use, with my TourSacks, I discovered just how much play
> there is with the center load (sleeping bag, pad, tent, hatchet) anchored
> to the fabric top rather than directly to the rack. (I tried my daughter’s
> Back-a-Bike bags). But the Back-a-Bike bags do not look weatherproof enough
> and the wooden chord closure thingy has already snagged on bits of brush
> and that just on the MUPS.
>
> Carsick looks to be out of the waxed canvas biz. Frost River’s new Highway
> 61 look excellent and are my most likely choice. Interestingly, when I
> talked it over with my daughters, they agree with Grant’s design,
> preferring ease of access to full weatherproofing. They also don’t go
> bashing through brush the same way I do. Grin.
>
> Any others doing waxed canvas panniers out there and what’s your
> experience with them?
>
> With abandon,
> Patrick
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Re: [RBW] Re: 40-ish mm Tires on Thinner Rims?

[Scott Henry]

True, sheldon's site does get updated.Once a month, its almost as if
they figured out how to stay on the top half of the page for search results
on the web.
The bearded one was very bike savvy (albeit very cautious and traditional),
the new webmaster... we'll just say the updates are very QBP update-ish.

He can run whatever tires he wants.





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>
>
> On 11/29/2016 11:37 AM, Scott Henry wrote:
>
> Please remember the source for your info.
> Sheldon died almost a decade ago.Much has changed since then, if you
> are looking for any current info, that's not the place to look.
>
>
>
> And yet, they keep updating the site, in his honor.   It's far from a
> static memorial.
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Re: [RBW] Re: 40-ish mm Tires on Thinner Rims?

[Scott Henry]

Please remember the source for your info.
Sheldon died almost a decade ago.Much has changed since then, if you
are looking for any current info, that's not the place to look.

Back in his day, 35's were huge tires.

On Tue, Nov 29, 2016 at 9:24 AM, Paul Clifton 
wrote:

> Well, now I'm confused a bit.
>
> How much wiggle room do rims have on the max tire size, or does it depend
> on the rim shape?
>
> Have any wide tires ever popped off any narrow rims?
>
> I've been wheel shopping. I want to use mostly 38mm tires. The Open Pro is
> 15mm wide on the inside and is rated for up to 28mm tires (
> https://shop.mavic.com/en-us/open-pro-c-j24200.html). Sheldon Brown has a
> table that puts 19mm wide rims in my sweet spot:
> www.sheldonbrown.com/tire-sizing.html#width
>
> It's been tricky to find a budget wheelset with both a 19mm or wider rim
> and a 130mm rear hub. So far the only reasonable option I've found uses a
> Velocity Dyad (http://harriscyclery.net/product/velocity-700c-dyad-
> rs400-tiagra-wheel-set-36-spoke-3247.htm).
>
> But I have a lot more options if a 40mm tire works well on a 15mm wide
> rim. So what gives?
>
> Also, anyone have any wheels for sale with medium-wide rims and 130mm rear
> hub?
>
> On Tuesday, November 29, 2016 at 8:24:28 AM UTC-5, Skenry wrote:
>>
>> You are good to upsize on those rims, look at a mountainbike someday.
>> Tires can easily triple the rim width.
>>
>> As for tire, I actually recommend these from Pmart
>> http://www.performancebike.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/Pro
>> duct_10052_10551_1168230_-1_400904__400904
>>
>> Cheap as all get out, not too heavy and they perform really well.They
>> are my go-to tire for non racing cross bikes anymore.   Did I mention cheap?
>> Scott
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Nov 29, 2016 at 7:05 AM, 'Mark Etze' via RBW Owners Bunch <
>> rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>>
>>> I have that exact set up, Mavic Open Pro's with 40mm Clement MSO's. I
>>> run them at 60psi and they have been great with out any squirliness at all
>>> and no flats with 1500 miles on them.
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Re: [RBW] Re: 40-ish mm Tires on Thinner Rims?

[Scott Henry]

You are good to upsize on those rims, look at a mountainbike someday.
Tires can easily triple the rim width.

As for tire, I actually recommend these from Pmart
http://www.performancebike.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/Product_10052_10551_1168230_-1_400904__400904

Cheap as all get out, not too heavy and they perform really well.They
are my go-to tire for non racing cross bikes anymore.   Did I mention cheap?
Scott


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> I have that exact set up, Mavic Open Pro's with 40mm Clement MSO's. I run
> them at 60psi and they have been great with out any squirliness at all and
> no flats with 1500 miles on them.
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Re: [RBW] Re: RBW Web Site

[Scott Henry]

I'm great at home or on my phone.
Though at work where I don't have access to any settings, I still can't get
onto the new site.

Unfortunately I e-shop mostly at work.  Don't tell.
Scott


On Tue, Nov 15, 2016 at 6:48 PM, Christopher Cote <
christopherjamesc...@gmail.com> wrote:

> I placed an order on Sunday evening. Their new web store is much improved
> over the old one! Kudos to Riv for the upgrade.
>
>
> On Thursday, November 10, 2016 at 5:45:22 AM UTC-5, Michael Hechmer wrote:
>>
>> I still can't open the new web site.  I get a message dated 11/7 telling
>> me it will be back up on  11/8.  Are others experiencing this too?
>>
>> Michael
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Re: [RBW] Re: High Riding Handlebar Bag

[Scott Henry]

Use a decaleur to place the bag wherever you like.


On Sun, Nov 13, 2016 at 11:54 PM, Scott Blouke 
wrote:

> Kevin
>
> You could try the Nitto Lamp Holder to lower your KLICKfix mount.
>  http://www.benscycle.com/p-1565-nitto-lamp-holder-1-260mm.aspx
> I don't know if you would need the Lamp Holder 2 or not.
>
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Re: [RBW] Re: New geo chart

[Scott Henry]

Hence my post of filtering by whats in stock.
As for now I can filter by price or name and see things that I can't
purchase.
Scott



On Wed, Nov 9, 2016 at 11:49 AM, Garth  wrote:

>   Scott,   If they removed a listing for out of stock items then surely
> people may call/email and wonder "where is that item, what happened to it,
> was it discontinued, and on and on... ?"  So instead the listed items shows
> as "sold out" , and they'll get calls/emails of "why is a sold out item
> still listed ?"  The retailer then, just can't please every possibility,
> and we all know from personal experience in our own lives.
>
>
>
>
> On Wednesday, November 9, 2016 at 11:09:40 AM UTC-5, Skenry wrote:
>>
>> I wish the new webstore let you sort by what's in stock.   Have no real
>> interest in knowing about all the things that I can't order.
>> This of course isn't a Rivbike only thing, but knowing what you don't
>> sell only makes me do a random google sale search and buy from whomever get
>> it to me first and easiest.
>>
>> A 'store' should only try to sell whats available.
>> Scott
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Nov 8, 2016 at 6:50 PM, Bill Lindsay  wrote:
>>
>>> The new site does look nice, but my favorite inventory trick no longer
>>> works.  If you wanted to know how many Silver Shifters Rivendell had in
>>> stock, you tried to put 1000 sets in your cart, and the site would only put
>>> the number that they had in stock.  That way, you know if they are almost
>>> out of something.  It just let me put 1000 sets of Silver Shifters in my
>>> cart.  I'm not going to spend the $46,000 to test the system.  Maybe
>>> getting the inventory numbers right is part of the transition.
>>>
>>> Bill Lindsay
>>> El Cerrito, CA
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, November 8, 2016 at 2:07:42 PM UTC-8, Chris Birkenmaier
>>> wrote:

 I like the new site a lot. Seems better organized and easier to find
 things
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Re: [RBW] Re: New geo chart

[Scott Henry]

I wish the new webstore let you sort by what's in stock.   Have no real
interest in knowing about all the things that I can't order.
This of course isn't a Rivbike only thing, but knowing what you don't sell
only makes me do a random google sale search and buy from whomever get it
to me first and easiest.

A 'store' should only try to sell whats available.
Scott



On Tue, Nov 8, 2016 at 6:50 PM, Bill Lindsay  wrote:

> The new site does look nice, but my favorite inventory trick no longer
> works.  If you wanted to know how many Silver Shifters Rivendell had in
> stock, you tried to put 1000 sets in your cart, and the site would only put
> the number that they had in stock.  That way, you know if they are almost
> out of something.  It just let me put 1000 sets of Silver Shifters in my
> cart.  I'm not going to spend the $46,000 to test the system.  Maybe
> getting the inventory numbers right is part of the transition.
>
> Bill Lindsay
> El Cerrito, CA
>
>
>
>
> On Tuesday, November 8, 2016 at 2:07:42 PM UTC-8, Chris Birkenmaier wrote:
>>
>> I like the new site a lot. Seems better organized and easier to find
>> things
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Re: [RBW] What would you do?

[Scott Henry]

I was actually just going to mention insurance. All of these bikes are
replaceable. Just call the insurance company, get the estimate pay the
deductable and get a new one.

I've already said I don't carry a lock, much like hubby, I don't like the
hassle or the weight.Any current bike I have gets treated the same way,
like a bike.  Now the older "CR type" bikes don't get left anywhere,
lock or not because I cannot get another one.

We all pay those premiums, use them if you need them.  Otherwise it's just
wasted money.



As an aside, for bike stuff as well as envy thing else in your home.
Photograph EVERYTHING.   Put the pictures on a thumb drive and store it off
site. Being a fireman working in prevention, inspection and
investigation, I see people dealing with loss and insurance companies all
the time.The photos make it so much easier, they are even better to
keep than receipts.   Seriously, room by room, wall by wall, take wide and
detailed shots of everything.   Think also about the coverage that you
choose.   We just had an apartment fire here, one of the tenents had a
$10,000 coverage policy.Think about $10,000 for a moment.That's my
living room, leather sofa set, tv, stereo and media pc / Dvd shelf.As a
homeowner, you might have a $50,000 contents policy. That wont cut it
unless you live alone and like a monk.   Pictures pay off, and go over them
along with coverage with your agent.

Sorry it's fire safety month so I've been going over this daily.


But I did once have a bike stolen, a Paramount.I loved the one that
replaced it, made out like gangbusters!

Cheers and be safe,
Scott






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> If my spouse didn't lock up her Clem I would say that even if she doesn't
> care if the bike got stolen,* that is still $1500 of our money flushed
> down the toilet*. And our insurance has a 1,000$ deductible for a stolen
> bike.
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Re: [RBW] Taking Risks

[Scott Henry]

What I generally do anytime that I am leaving the bike without a lock
(which I rarely carry) is just prevent it from being ridden off.   I'll do
some combination of loosening all the QR levers, intentionally overshift to
drop the chain off the big ring and generally wrap a toe strap around a
crank arm or stays/spokes.Someone can still grab the bike and toss it
in the truck, but most bike thefts are ride-off crimes of opportunity.
If they grab it from the rack and the front wheel falls off or they can't
pedal away, hopefully they'll grab something else.

People don't steal your bike because its anything special, people steal
bikes because they are easy to take.
Scott

On Fri, Oct 21, 2016 at 11:00 AM, LeahFoy  wrote:

> I got to school and realized I don't have my bike lock. I'm here only for
> an hour or two to volunteer in my son's 2nd grade class. I have no choice
> but to leave The Best Bike in the World unlocked in the rack in front of
> the school office. TBBITW is finally set up exactly the way I've always
> dreamed - Big Nitto Front Rack, Big Nitto Back Rack, baskets and bags
> galore, and all the other accoutrements. It would be a crying shame to lose
> it now. All I can think about is this week's post from The Bike Snob about
> his stolen bike - which he left at HIS son's school!
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Re: [RBW] Re: Grant's Stock on Bike Forums has Appreciated

[Scott Henry]

I must be one of the few whom enjoys the banter.   I don't get much out
constant agreement, I more like a debate class.   I don't want two
differing opinions, I enjoy all opinions, even the ones you guys call
"crazy' or 'rude".
That's what makes life fun for me.Its also what keeps me from posting
more often, tender feelings and such.

Its nice that we can all agree on this type of bike though.
Scott


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> politics/ideas I disagree with - studies show that this "mingling" tends to
> reduce the most extreme views for parties on both sides of that
> relationship, which I have found to be true in myself - but I don't have to
> listen to unfiltered madness from trolls. That issue is obviously not the
> case at RBW Bunch, but it's a problem on most forums.
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Re: [RBW] Re: Best allen keys?

[Scott Henry]

I recommend whatever they sell at your local Home Depot, or Lowes or
Menards or whereever.

Its just an allen key, the trick is not to use them all the time.   If you
do, just grind them down on a grinder to get brand new fresh faces.I
have a coffee cup on my bench full of keys with just a nub of the L left on
them.



On Wed, Oct 5, 2016 at 7:23 AM, Patrick Moore  wrote:

> Thanks, all -- Bondhus it is. Protanium!
>
> On Tue, Oct 4, 2016 at 7:24 PM, Dave Johnston  wrote:
>
>> Its often cheaper to buy a set than individual.
>>
>> Look for Bondhus 12292 or HLX7MS (made in the USA)
>> https://www.amazon.com/Bondhus-12292-L-wrenches-Length-1-5-
>> 6mm/dp/B000E7ZPT0
>>
>> http://www.bondhustools.com/ccp0-prodshow/bondhus_12292.html
>>
>>
>> -Dave J
>>
>>
>> On Tuesday, October 4, 2016 at 6:46:59 PM UTC-4, Patrick Moore wrote:
>>>
>>> I almost stripped the head of a cleat bolt this afternoon using my Park
>>> MT-1, and I think I'm going to replace my various multitools with top
>>> quality, loose allens -- I don't need much more than a 3 mm (?) for Shimano
>>> pedal tension; 4 mm for cleat bolts, 5 mm for brake cable and seatpost, and
>>> 6 mm for stem clamp and quill bolt. Add a 8mm box wrench for brake cables,
>>> and for the '03 a 7 mm for fender stay bolts (the struts attach to frame
>>> with 8 mm darumas), and perhaps a torx driver for brake rotors in the case
>>> of the Matthews.
>>>
>>> Who sells the best fitting and longest lasting allens and torx wrenches?
>>> (I've got plenty of lower stress box wrenches.) I know this has come up
>>> onlist, but I can't find the thread in the archives.
>>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: How Rivendells are received in your city ... (was: Rivvish Shop in Santa Barbara?)

[Scott Henry]

I'd be surprised if there is more than 20 in any city outside of San
Fransisco or Portland.



On Thu, Sep 15, 2016 at 2:11 PM, Ryan Fleming 
wrote:

> My experience..generally is that my rivs are much admired...some riders
> and shop folks really love the lugs and the classic good looks. There are
> not a whole lot of Rivendells in Winnipeg...if there are more than 20 in
> Winnipeg , I'd be very surprised
>
>
> On Thursday, September 15, 2016 at 9:47:45 AM UTC-5, Caroline Golum wrote:
>>
>> Here in NYC we don't see a whole lot of Rivs, but the touring style is
>> becoming increasingly popular for long-ish rides, hauling groceries,
>> commuting, etc. I can say that every shop I've been to has received the
>> bike well - mechanics are generally impressed. Riders, not so much.
>>
>> On Wednesday, September 14, 2016 at 1:47:42 PM UTC-4, Fred Craven wrote:
>>>
>>> In Dallas I have met two kinds of people: Those in the know, and those
>>> not. The latter are all over the place. They see me in my upright position,
>>> and feel that they have to get past me (least they be considered slow).
>>> Some of them feel like they need to suggest how I should pedal (I spin more
>>> than you do, deal with it, I'm comfortable with a higher cadence), they
>>> think I really need toe clips (I like toe clips, really, but right now, I'm
>>> enjoying my flat pedals). Then... They call my Rivendell a "cruiser"
>>>
>>> It's not a cruiser damnit, it's a road bike. OK, I'll let that one go,
>>> to the ignorant they think that any bike with a steel frame, upright bars
>>> and/or a color other than black, white, or red, is a "cruiser": fine. I can
>>> let them think that.
>>>
>>> But the former group: Those who know–It doesn't matter what they ride,
>>> be it steel, aluminum, or carbon, it doesn't matter what kind of clothes
>>> they wear, or how fast or slow they go–they know. They know that each of us
>>> is a part of a community, and that there are different kinds of
>>> people,bike, and bike riding, and they know that a Rivendell is a beautiful
>>> thing. It usually starts with the color (Joel Green), then the lugs, then
>>> the parts. It may not be for them, but they totally respect it.
>>>
>>> Not as many of those folks, but they are here.
>>>
>>> If they are cool enough I give them the question they really want to
>>> here, "Would you like to ride it?"
>>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Helmets... what do you like?

[Scott Henry]

My problem with helmets is that I have a w-i-d-e head.   I measure out to 7
1/2 or 7 3/4 for a ball cap, so I guess big and wide, not a good combo.   I
feel sorry for Mom, I guess Dad too.

Helmets tend to fit but push into the sides of my head and end up giving
headaches.   So rarely do I wear them.When required at events I usually
end up in a hairnet.   Most organizers don't specify the TYPE of helmet
that is required, only that a helmet must be worn.

I don't have the actual name of the helmet, but I did find one of the Bell
helmets that fit comfortably.   To bad it was the race helmet with the
integrated faceshield, I looked like one of the Spaceballs guys.
Scott

On Wed, Sep 14, 2016 at 4:08 PM, John Bokman  wrote:

> I have a Bell Citi helmet in loud yellow with a visor. I like the visor
> because I use it to attach my "Take a Look" mirror, which I've really come
> to depend on after getting used to it. (Yes, it took me quite a while to
> get used to a rear view mirror sticking off the end of my helmet.)
>
> However, a problem with the helmet, at least for my head: when riding at
> speed (say down a long descent), the back of my head, near the ears, begins
> to hurt. I think this is caused by wind getting under the visor and thus
> shifting the helmet ever so slightly on my head, but I can't be sure. Which
> makes me want to take the visor off. But then I loose my mirror. (I have
> tried the mirror on glasses and don't like it nearly as much as helmet
> mounted.)
>
> Does anyone else have this problem with their helmet?
>
>
> On Saturday, September 10, 2016 at 9:06:41 PM UTC-7, Surlyprof wrote:
>>
>> I've been using a helmet that the designers at Specialized gave me
>> several years ago.  It's a nice helmet but it's getting pretty grungy and
>> probably needs to be replaced.  Having only spent about $50 or $60 on
>> helmets in the past 20 years, I figured it's time to pony up for a new
>> helmet.  As I started to search I was amazed at (1) the range of helmets
>> I'd never seen; (2) some of the new innovations that are coming out and;
>> (3) some of the prices that helmets are hitting these days.  I may just try
>> to ping on friends in the industry for another freebie but I use it so
>> often, I may actually get picky and open the wallet for this one. I'm not
>> looking to start a pro-helmet/anti-helmet debate, just looking for insights
>> from those who use 'em.  What are people liking out there and why?  I'd
>> love to hear everyone's latest thoughts on helmets.
>>
>>
>>
>> BTW... I did go down the "folding helmet rabbit hole" when I was
>> searching.  Some crazy new things coming out.
>>
>> http://www.treehugger.com/bikes/dash-and-stash-stash-folding
>> -bike-helmet.html
>>
>> http://www.morpherhelmet.com/
>>
>> https://store.moma.org/museum/moma/ProductDisplay_Fuga-Folda
>> ble-Helmet_10451_10001_227971_-1_26715_11506_221954?gclid=CI
>> C3h9Szhs8CFY9bfgodLwoAkg
>>
>> http://www.backcountrygear.com/madillo.html?gclid=CPD56pq0hs
>> 8CFQtnfgodRS4JwA
>>
>> https://www.amazon.com/Overade-Foldable-Folding-Bicycle-
>> Helmet/dp/B00TA4TF4E
>>
>> http://www.thinkbiologic.com/products/pango-folding-helmet
>>
>>
>>
>> ...and my wife found this one: http://www.ecohelmet.com/
>>
>>
>>
>> John “Not wearing a paper helmet anytime soon”
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Re: [RBW] Best way to remove lawyer lips

[Scott Henry]

Tony,
You wont regret purchasing a Dremel, great for shop and home and crafts and
just about everything.   If you get one, I recommend the detail pen-type
attachment for fine work.

As for touching up what you grind off, I hit mine with silver rustoleum.
Its generic, easy and seems to work well.   Note this is the below the
clamping surface of the QR, darn near everything will flake off eventually.
Scott

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> :). Scott I like your attitude!  And maybe it's the project I need to
> finally buy a dremel...
>
> Ted thanks it's good to hear it's easy with a hand file.
>
> Did either of you touch up the area with some paint or nail polish?
>
> On Mon, Sep 5, 2016, 13:46 Scott Henry <ske...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Power tools are never necessary, but they sure make things easy.
>> Dremel with a grinding wheel will do the job in about 2 seconds per tab.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Monday, September 5, 2016, ted <ted.ke...@comcast.net> wrote:
>>
>>> I filed off the lips on my SimpleOne fork the day I picked up my frame.
>>> I used a hand file and it was easy and quick. I don't think a power tool is
>>> necessary.
>>>
>>> On Monday, September 5, 2016 at 9:11:43 AM UTC-7, Tony DeFilippo wrote:
>>>>
>>>> My Saluki replacement fork I've been riding the past year or so can't
>>>> from Waterford with some aggressive lawyer lips and in my haste to get the
>>>> bike rolling again I missed the opportunity to get them removed before I
>>>> had the fans and fork coated... It wasn't a big deal because I rarely
>>>> removed the wheel but now that I'm using a fork mounted truck bed rack
>>>> system it's getting to be a pain in the neck.
>>>>
>>>> I'm ok with having a touched up spot on the fork dropouts but was
>>>> curious if anyone has done this to a Riv fork... Seems like the most
>>>> cautious approach would be slow and steady with a file.  A grinder of some
>>>> kind would of course make quick work but potentially remove more material
>>>> than I'm looking for.
>>>>
>>>> Any best practices out there?
>>>>
>>>> As an aside I really miss using my original (crashed) fork which was a
>>>> bit slighter, less beefy looking, had a different crown and had splendidly
>>>> lip-less dropouts.  It starts at me mockingly from above my workbench all
>>>> the time reminding me to always check/tighten my rack bolts!  :)
>>>>
>>>> Tony
>>>>
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Re: [RBW] Best way to remove lawyer lips

[Scott Henry]

Power tools are never necessary, but they sure make things easy.
Dremel with a grinding wheel will do the job in about 2 seconds per tab.



On Monday, September 5, 2016, ted <ted.ke...@comcast.net> wrote:

> I filed off the lips on my SimpleOne fork the day I picked up my frame. I
> used a hand file and it was easy and quick. I don't think a power tool is
> necessary.
>
> On Monday, September 5, 2016 at 9:11:43 AM UTC-7, Tony DeFilippo wrote:
>>
>> My Saluki replacement fork I've been riding the past year or so can't
>> from Waterford with some aggressive lawyer lips and in my haste to get the
>> bike rolling again I missed the opportunity to get them removed before I
>> had the fans and fork coated... It wasn't a big deal because I rarely
>> removed the wheel but now that I'm using a fork mounted truck bed rack
>> system it's getting to be a pain in the neck.
>>
>> I'm ok with having a touched up spot on the fork dropouts but was curious
>> if anyone has done this to a Riv fork... Seems like the most cautious
>> approach would be slow and steady with a file.  A grinder of some kind
>> would of course make quick work but potentially remove more material than
>> I'm looking for.
>>
>> Any best practices out there?
>>
>> As an aside I really miss using my original (crashed) fork which was a
>> bit slighter, less beefy looking, had a different crown and had splendidly
>> lip-less dropouts.  It starts at me mockingly from above my workbench all
>> the time reminding me to always check/tighten my rack bolts!  :)
>>
>> Tony
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Re: [RBW] Leah's Bicycle Bus! (and question)

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Why wouldn't the kids carry whatever they need in their own backpacks on
their backs?





On Friday, August 26, 2016, LeahFoy <jonasandle...@gmail.com> wrote:

> School begins on Monday, and we have before us a number of challenges. The
> school is in its second year, and it has exploded in population. There was
> nearly no parking to begin with, and with the second school in the
> neighborhood also convening in the morning and with the canyon's whole
> workforce trying to get out for their 25 minute commute with but one single
> road that we all must share, biking is a NO-BRAINER. But nearly no one,
> excepting us, has done it. The school is 2 miles from my door (too far to
> walk), all downhill to school, and all uphill on the way home. The hill is
> so steep that a child really needs brakes of good quality for the downhill,
> and a bike that isn't too heavy (these are just kids, remember) and has
> GEARS for the way uphill. Also ideal would be a bottle cage for water since
> we live in Vegas and a rack. But a rack is probably asking too much.
>
> I mentor the junior high girls from church (I heart teenagers!), and one
> of my little favorites, L,  will attend our school. She and her little
> sister plan to use their electric scooter and bike to join us. She babysits
> a boy who will ride with us on his own bike. Another family I'm acquainted
> with asked if their 5th grader could join us. As I was leaving campus after
> the meet and greet today, I heard L yell, "Leah! We have some more coming!"
>
> "More what?" I asked.
> "More girls!" she called.
> "Riding bikes?" I asked, incredulous.
> "Yes, my mom's getting all their information, I'll tell you later!"
>
> So, there you have it. Leah's Bicycle Bus is born!
>
> You might imagine I have some anxiety about the logistics. Even more about
> the liability. I have a plan worked out, and I'll tweak it as need arises.
>
> Now, for the question.
>
> My only-5th grade-son has been reclassified as a middle-schooler. He must
> carry all his books/folders/etc in his backpack. They tell me, "Oh, and
> here's his Chromebook for the year. It goes home with him every night."
>
> SERIOUSLY?
>
> My Betty Foy has a Nitto Big Front Rack with the biggest Wald they make.
> The back has a lighter duty rack that was acting as a support for my medium
> Saddlesack. This is not going to carry both sons' bags and lunches now that
> my "middle-schooler" must schlep around everything he owns. Also, what
> happens if one of the neighborhood kids needs me to haul something?  I
> called Riv and Will listened and we both thought I would need the Big Back
> Rack, so I ordered it. Now, I wonder if I should continue to use my medium
> saddlesack or if I should order the large. Or maybe just add
> Back-a-Bike-bags, which are out of stock for now. Will suggested:
> http://www.carsickdesigns.com/products/large-pannier-set but I don't love
> them very much.
>
> Someone chime in and tell me what's the best way to carry all this weight.
>
> Thanks once again! L
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Re: [RBW] My head badge is loose

[Scott Henry]

Rather than pry it off, saw some dental floss between the badge and
headtube.That'll cut through the adhesive.   Clean the whole thing up
with your adhesive cleaner of choice (wd-40, simple green, ect)
I'd recommend some kind of thin foam double sided tape.

But yes, in a nutshell, it really is that easy.

Scott

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> I was cleaning up the Hilsen the other day and noticed that the head badge
> was loose. I saw a dark ring around the outside (glue or adhesive?) and
> then noticed that, although it's not hanging by a thread or about to fall
> off, the badge is very loosey goosey on the head tube. If I were going to
> try and fix it, what adhesive should I use? And I'm guessing that I'd pull
> the badge and thoroughly clean the badge and head tube with maybe mineral
> spirits? Then re-affix. Is it just that simple?
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Re: [RBW] Re: Wearing Cotton rather than Wool

[Scott Henry]

91 degrees and 73% humidity tomorrow should be worse

If I could, I'd drop the wool and the cotton and be riding naked right now.

On Thu, Aug 11, 2016 at 2:25 PM, Deacon Patrick  wrote:

> I have no idea what you're talking about. We are a sweltering, very muggy
> 74˚F and 24% humidity. Grin.
> (No, I'm not kidding, that feels hot and muggy to this Colorado bumpkin,
> and yes I'm kidding about having no idea that my calibration is skewed from
> many areas of the country. Grin.)
>
> With abandon,
> Patrick
>
> On Wednesday, August 10, 2016 at 9:56:44 PM UTC-6, Jay Lonner wrote:
>>
>> An important consideration is relative humidity. It doesn't surprise me
>> that cotton performs well in the generally dry conditions of the Rockies.
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Re: [RBW] Olympic Bike Racing, Cobbles, and tire width

[Scott Henry]

The Olympics have had professional cyclists for a couple of cycles (ha)
now.   I didn't look it up but there aren't many amateur sports left in
there Olympics.




On Wednesday, August 10, 2016, Lungimsam <john11.2...@gmail.com> wrote:

> I saw some of the men's time trials today while chowing down at the sushi
> buffet with the wife.
>
> Those guys have dolphin thighs. No wonder I am such a weak rider. Gotta
> have respect for them. They earned the dolphion thighs and they sure do get
> to enjoy going fast.
>
> But I wondered about the pro racers. I thought Olympics was for amateurs,
> not pros.
>
> Perhaps the pros that were racing aren't currently under contract and that
> technically makes them amateurs?
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Re: [RBW] Re: silly question re: cyclometers

[Scott Henry]

Evan,
I'd wholeheartedly recommend the Garmin Edge 25
$170 at Nashbar right now
http://www.nashbar.com/bikes/Product_10053_10052_586662_-1___#ReviewHeader

Sounds exactly what you want
Scott

On Wed, Jul 27, 2016 at 4:25 PM, Evan E.  wrote:

> Hi Everybody:
>
> Because I'm not very good at reading cue sheets or Google-map directions
> while riding, you-all now have me considering a navigation device for the
> first time ever. So, some questions for the group:
>
> Please name a device (whether it's the Garmin Edge 20 or Cateye Urban or
> something similar) that is so simple that a Luddite / technical moron can
> use it for route directions.
>
> - Does this device give audible audio instructions such as "turn right in
> 20 meters," or does it only show "right" or "left" or whatever on its tiny
> screen? If the latter, is the word or symbol on the screen easy to see and
> to follow?
>
> - Can this device easily upload and use cue-sheets / route directions from
> a computer?
>
> - Does this device not require the use of a smartphone?
>
> - Can this device hold a charge for at least eight hours, and preferably
> ten?
>
> I'd love to hear of a super-simple-to-use and relatively inexpensive device
> that can give me accurate and timely instructions on when to turn. Any
> other feature (speed, distance, time, heart rate, map of route traveled for
> boasting purposes) is a bonus.
>
> Your advice, please? Specific product names especially appreciated! And if
> you've outgrown a device because it's too basic for you, you may have a
> buyer in me.
>
> Thanks,
> Evan E. in S.F.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Wednesday, July 27, 2016 at 6:32:39 AM UTC-7, RJM wrote:
>>
>> Whatever lowest level Garmin (Edge 20 or 25?)has will do everything you
>> want it to and it will do it without having to add sensors or wiresplus
>> you will get gps. They are super simple to use.
>>
>> I use the Garmin 1000 Explore and find it to be great except I've come
>> across a bug when out mountain biking. When sweat hits the touchscreen it
>> will think I'm trying to change that data field and go to a menu of
>> choices. I'm always sweating while mountainbiking and I'm always moving
>> around on the bike so sweat is flying exactly where the garmin sits, so it
>> has been bumming me out. Garmin customer service can't solve the issue.
>> I've been thinking about picking up an Edge 20 or 25 just so I don't need
>> to take the 1000 with me and those have push buttons instead of
>> touchscreens. Plus, they are smaller.
>>
>> I dig data on the road bike, even have a power meter but on the mountain
>> bike not so much. I do like to look at a gps map of where I went though,
>> and garmin saves all that in one convenient place.
>>
>> On Tuesday, July 26, 2016 at 10:18:51 AM UTC-5, bluebirdonabicycle wrote:
>>
>>> Maybe its my age but its a confusing world looking at the many different
>>> cyclometers (or whatever they are called)
>>> Im looking for something wireless, simple that has the basic (important)
>>> features likeHow fast? Distance? Total miles?
>>> But well built.
>>> Most I look at seem cluttered with endless features.
>>> Any opinions from those who have traveled this road?
>>>
>>> BBOB
>>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: What'r ye runnin' yer Compass Stampede Pass tire pressures at?

[Scott Henry]

Not a stampede pass, but I run 700x42 cheapo-tubeless at 36psi and I'm
about 230#.


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> 45ish front, 60 rear - stampede pass el's on my Bob Jackson... And I'm
> around 215lbs.
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Re: [RBW] Long Chain Stays

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Oh heck, I bet I hop up on a curb a few times a week, just about every time
I ride to a store.
And once more heading into a park by myself that has a pretty good tasting
drinking fountain.
Scott

On Tue, Jun 28, 2016 at 11:49 AM, Joe Bernard  wrote:

> You're probably right, but I'm not sure the ability to hop over curbs is
> high on the list of most people who ride an Appaloosa. I can't remember the
> last time I did that on ANY bike.
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Re: [RBW] Seeking advice - where would you turn to, to try to sell non-Rivvy bikes?

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I'd say eBay hands down.   Craigslist is about as small market as you can
get, focusing only on a city or two's population.Ebay however has the
whole world watching.
Take good pictures and measurements, think long and hard about your
starting price not too high, not too low) and let the market work for
you.

Your bikes are popular bikes from one of the big three makers, they should
sell just fine.
Good luck.
Scott

On Mon, Jun 27, 2016 at 7:20 AM, Jon Craig  wrote:

> So, buying a Sam for me and a Sam for the wife, before selling Our Other
> Bikes(tm) was painful financially, but Sams are available when they're
> available, and they were at A1 (our local Riv dealer, thankfully we have
> one!) .. .so we bought them.
>
> But now our old bikes need sold - and the only place I know of to list
> them is Craigslist, which I've done.  They're listed in our local CL, the
> next big-city CL (Indianapolis) and the next big city further (Bloomington,
> IN).  Not a lot of interest.
>
> Is there another place to sell bikes online? I mean other than eBay of
> course, which I'm thinking of too.
>
> (They're high-ish-value Specialized full-carbon endurance geo road bikes.)
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Re: [RBW] Re: A bit offtopic discussion of RivBike's shipping times

[Scott Henry]

What parts are cheaper?   I don't see that at all.   Its the parts that you
can't get elsewhere that are the deal at Riv and yes they look pretty when
you open the box.

Quick example
Deore Rear Derailleur  $56   or $33 at Jenson
Tektro CR720  $54 or $18 at Niagra
Grip Kings $56  or $38 at TreeFort
B17 standard $130 or $99 at Planet Cyclery


On Fri, Jun 24, 2016 at 2:20 PM, David Stein  wrote:

> This allows Rivendell to keep their costs lower too. Most parts are
> cheaper at Rivendell then elsewhere if you were to competitve shop or go to
> the LBS.
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Re: [RBW] Re: A bit offtopic discussion of RivBike's shipping times

[Scott Henry]

But they aren't ridiculous expectations when they are commonplace.



On Fri, Jun 24, 2016 at 1:05 PM, Keith Muller  wrote:

> You can thank Amazon for the ridiculous expectations that some buyers have
> now days!
>
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Re: [RBW] Re: A bit offtopic discussion of RivBike's shipping times

[Scott Henry]

I almost posted this same thread last week with after my small order.

Their shipping prices (and prices in general) and times are kinda high.
They get the money, certainly for things that I can't buy elsewhere but its
kinda hard to justify spending more for the item and then spending more
again to ship it.Yes its their choice to set prices as they will, and
again my choice to order or not.   But USPS Priority has always 100% worked
well for me, shipping and receiving.   The flat rate boxes and envelopes
make it amazingly cheap and easy to get coast to coast in 2 days.

The days of ordering something out of a catalog and seeing 4-6 weeks
delivery times are over.   This is an instant society.
And yes, I know that I am different from most everyone else on this list.
Scott


On Fri, Jun 24, 2016 at 9:31 AM, Ron Mc  wrote:

> Ian, if you had bought the Paul components from Modern Bike, Andy would
> have discounted 20% and mailed for free.
>
> On Friday, June 24, 2016 at 7:55:58 AM UTC-5, ian m wrote:
>>
>> To offer a comparison, I ordered some service parts from Paul Components,
>> shipping from the same region as Riv, and it's a 3 day transit time to PA
>> via USPS first class, less than $5.
>> The Nitto struts and hardware I ordered from Riv will take 8 days via
>> UPS, $9.
>>
>> Rivendell has a business arrangement with UPS that works for them.  I
> would not expect them to change it.  It has not stopped me from purchasing
> a couple of times every year.
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Re: [RBW] Re: New Sam-haver with rack questions!

[Scott Henry]

I just ordered one of the VO constructeur racks, I haven't installed it
yet, just a dry fit.Mine is taking the place of a Mark's rack.
Anyway, that tang on the VO rack is designed to fit a mount under the
steering tube or to a Daruma (which was included in mine)I can't recall
if the Sam has a under-steerer fender mount, I don't think so though.   So
you will need this daruma, like I said, mine was included with my rack
http://store.velo-orange.com/index.php/vo-fork-crown-eye-bolt-for-fenders-and-racks-fork-crown-daruma.html


Here are the rack mount instructions :
http://support.velo-orange.com/pdf/FrontRack.pdf

Give it a go, that VO rack should mount up to a Sam fairly easily.
Scott

On Thu, Jun 23, 2016 at 6:57 AM, Jon Craig  wrote:

> Well that was a disaster. :D
>
> Yeah, the VO constructeur front rack won't work on a Sam, at least not for
> someone with my level of skills (admittedly next to nil!)
>
> The shape of the tang just doesn't work.  It's got that down-bend in it,
> that when placed through the brake caliper, causes the whole thing to push
> down and rub on the tire.  Not to mention you can't really insert it
> through far enough because of the aforementioned down-bend.
>
> Luckily I decided to dry-fit it before removing the hang tag and little
> bundle of hardware, so returning it was easy enough.
>
> I'll just use the rear rack for now, and perhaps wait until a Mark's rack
> doesn't seem expensive.
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Re: [RBW] Re: Nine Speed Index Setup

[Scott Henry]

Ha, here is a photo of my son riding our tandem solo.
But from the back seat.

If you can see instgram photos...
https://www.instagram.com/p/2XFCNvINiK/?taken-by=skenry=en

Scott

On Wed, Jun 22, 2016 at 6:27 PM, Steve Palincsar  wrote:


>
>
> In fact, a month or so after I first got a tandem, we were on Marthas
> Vineyard.  I was riding with my daughter as child stoker, and we stopped
> for a minute.  I didn't know it, but she climbed down (getting up to the
> saddle was a bit like climbing up monkey bars for her) while my attention
> was elsewhere.  I started off riding, and next thing there she is running
> down the road next to the bike yelling at me to stop.  It took many years
> before I lived that one down...
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Re: [RBW] Re: Mark's/M18 failures?

[Scott Henry]

I'm still not sure on the complaining of 'could have died'. Seriously?

A rack breaks, which they do, and it drops down to the tire, you go over
the handlebars.   Much like cyclists have been doing for years.It's
kinda like a front fender collapsing from a stick or even a dirty Cinzano
team member jamming a silca into your spokes.

Ride a bike and you will go down.   Sometimes slowly and softly but
sometimes its bloody and spectacular.

Sorry someone fell over but this was a customer installed rack in which the
customer bent a piece of steel to make it fit.   This is the Riv list in
which people extoll on the virtues of steels' failure mode.   How long has
this tang been cracked and weakened and ignored?

Buy a new tang, or better yet, go to the hardware store and make a new
one.  Then ride the bike.
Scott





On Tuesday, June 21, 2016, Joe Bernard <joerem...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Wait, we're talking about a rack Riv doesn't sell, and complaining that
> they don't put stuff in the description that is clearly in the
> description?? I give up, I'm going to go ride my bike. With a Nitto rack
> from Rivendell that was accurately explained and I properly mounted.
> Toodles!
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Re: [RBW] How hot is your town?

[Scott Henry]

Dayton,  Ohio was about 87 today with 80% humidity.
I was sweating just standing there.

It's 9:30pm and still 80 degrees and 60%.

Only 4 or 5 more months until I'm comfortable again...
Scott
On Jun 19, 2016 2:44 PM, "Patrick Moore"  wrote:

> 102F just ouside my door as I got home, but that's just a cheap analogue
> thermometer. I hope we'll peak at 102, though I've seen it at 111 and,
> IIRC, once at 117 on the west mesa 25 years ago. As little as 3-4%
> humidity, though, on those days. But this afternoon is humid at 12%. Icky.
>
> Wool is good when you are moving. Not a long ride; I got browned enough as
> it is on this ride (the sun at 5-6K feet is amazingly bright). Thank God
> for Filipino genes which allow me to forgo the hassle of sunscreen.
>
> I hear Phoenix may hit 120 -- Gawd, south of us and sea level!
>
> Q: When does a been taste best? A: after a ride on a 100* day.
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Re: [RBW] Re: VO fenders vs. Honjo fenders?

[Scott Henry]

I will also toss out the option of Handsome Cycles MudButler Fenders
http://handsomecycles.com/products/silver-fenders
Black or silver, priced compairable to Velo Orange too.   Ive used them and
they are long and easy to mount.

I've got a bike in the stand right now that needs some fenders, the current
42mm tires aren't making fender mounting too easy.
Scott

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> I dont think they make hammered fenders either.
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Re: [RBW] Re: Remember Islabikes?

[Scott Henry]

Let us all just try to be a little more open minded.

There is a huge difference in saying I don't like a certain bicycle company
because... and saying I like all bicycles because...

Try to be positive cyclists and embrace the activity in its entirety.

I guess I thought that you all being cyclists that you liked rivendell and
bicycling overall.
So, my initial response to your use of the word "intolerant," Scott, should
have been:

Yes. People are expressing an intolerance in this thread. That is a good
thing. I am intolerant of mass produced beer, whisky from anywhere but
Islay, bikes made of materials that fail without warning, companies that
objectify their customers and see them more as dollars than as people,
spoiled milk, rotten eggs, and a whole lot of other things. You keep
expressing intolerance for intolerances expressed in this thread as
disappointment in the group and in the people. To me, that says a lot about
you and very little about the group or the people in this thread.

With abandon,
Patrick

On Saturday, May 28, 2016 at 12:06:39 PM UTC-6, Deacon Patrick wrote:
>
> Skenry, personal choice and discernment about a product or company doesn't
> even enter the realm of requiring tolerance and actually rightly exercises
> intolerance all the time. Though I suspect we have differing definitions.
> For reference my understanding of tolerance/intolerance is beautifully
> expressed by Bishop Fulton Sheen:
>
> “Tolerance is an attitude of reasoned patience toward evil … a forbearance
> that restrains us from showing anger or inflicting punishment. Tolerance
> applies only to persons … never to truth. Tolerance applies to the erring,
> intolerance to the error … Architects are as intolerant about sand as
> foundations for skyscrapers as doctors are intolerant about germs in the
> laboratory.
>
> Tolerance does not apply to truth or principles. About these things we
> must be intolerant, and for this kind of intolerance, so much needed to
> rouse us from sentimental gush, I make a plea. Intolerance of this kind is
> the foundation of all stability.”
>
>
> Having an intolerance for various qualities in a product is a part of
> customer choice. So, is this "intolerance" as in the PC use of the word
> that means "bigoted, wrongly judgmental"? No. Is it intolerance of
> qualities in a product and choices of a company? Absolutely. That part of
> the virtue of the free market.
>
>
> With abandon,
>
> Patrick
>
> On Saturday, May 28, 2016 at 11:45:51 AM UTC-6, Skenry wrote:
>>
>> Deacon,
>> You might want to read some of  and others posts.
>>
>> It has been specifically stated that people liked the company before, and
>> no longer do and they could not recommend them anymore after they EXPANDED
>> their offerings.
>>
>> How tolerant is that?   The "my way out the highway" approach doesn't fly
>> with me.
>>
>> Choice is a good thing.
>> Options are good things.
>>
>> I expected more from this list.
>> On May 28, 2016 10:09 AM, "Deacon Patrick"  wrote:
>>
>>> Stop being ridiculous, Skenry. Nothing in this thread except your use of
>>> the words is intolerant or single-minded.
>>>
>>> In deciding between Cleary and Islabike I called and talked with both
>>> companies. Islabike was very "business and component" focused, Cleary was
>>> very "parent and kid experience with the bike" focused. That made my
>>> decision to buy from Cleary easy (despite my natural deference to anything
>>> resembling an Islay connection. Grin.). As I said earlier, and
>>> foreshadowing what Mark eventually said: "It shows me their underlying
>>> principles of bicycling differ greatly from mine."
>>>
>>> With abandon,
>>> Patrick
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Friday, May 27, 2016 at 8:35:08 PM UTC-6, Skenry wrote:

 And that's the point that is confusing, islabike is still making the
 type of bike that you are referring to. All they are doing is offering
 consumers a choice.

 Intolerance and single-sightedness don't seem to be those Riv qualities
 that some of you preach on about.

 So it's a great company if they make only the type of bike that you
 want?  But it's a bad company if they make the bike you want AND the type
 of bike that someone else may want?

 Wow.  It's no wonder the reputation garnered here.
 On May 27, 2016 5:26 PM, "'Mark in Beacon' via RBW Owners Bunch" <
 rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com> wrote:

> You guys are conflating the things I've written.This is not about
> snobbery or proselytizing,  not about anti this or that, not about who
> should or should not be on the list. I did not question anyone's
> qualifications for being on RBW.  If you have actually read what I wrote
> and the reason for my, let's face it, in the context of life, mild dismay
> at Islabikes is not clear, I cheerfully give up! Wait, one last time:
>
> There is a kid's bicycle company. It appeared that they had some
> 

Re: [RBW] Re: Remember Islabikes?

[Scott Henry]

The dictionary say intolerance is unwillingness to accept views, beliefs,
or behavior that differ from one's own.

Yep.
On May 28, 2016 2:27 PM, "Deacon Patrick"  wrote:

> So, my initial response to your use of the word "intolerant," Scott,
> should have been:
>
> Yes. People are expressing an intolerance in this thread. That is a good
> thing. I am intolerant of mass produced beer, whisky from anywhere but
> Islay, bikes made of materials that fail without warning, companies that
> objectify their customers and see them more as dollars than as people,
> spoiled milk, rotten eggs, and a whole lot of other things. You keep
> expressing intolerance for intolerances expressed in this thread as
> disappointment in the group and in the people. To me, that says a lot about
> you and very little about the group or the people in this thread.
>
> With abandon,
> Patrick
>
> On Saturday, May 28, 2016 at 12:06:39 PM UTC-6, Deacon Patrick wrote:
>>
>> Skenry, personal choice and discernment about a product or company
>> doesn't even enter the realm of requiring tolerance and actually rightly
>> exercises intolerance all the time. Though I suspect we have differing
>> definitions. For reference my understanding of tolerance/intolerance is
>> beautifully expressed by Bishop Fulton Sheen:
>>
>> “Tolerance is an attitude of reasoned patience toward evil … a
>> forbearance that restrains us from showing anger or inflicting punishment.
>> Tolerance applies only to persons … never to truth. Tolerance applies to
>> the erring, intolerance to the error … Architects are as intolerant about
>> sand as foundations for skyscrapers as doctors are intolerant about germs
>> in the laboratory.
>>
>> Tolerance does not apply to truth or principles. About these things we
>> must be intolerant, and for this kind of intolerance, so much needed to
>> rouse us from sentimental gush, I make a plea. Intolerance of this kind is
>> the foundation of all stability.”
>>
>>
>> Having an intolerance for various qualities in a product is a part of
>> customer choice. So, is this "intolerance" as in the PC use of the word
>> that means "bigoted, wrongly judgmental"? No. Is it intolerance of
>> qualities in a product and choices of a company? Absolutely. That part of
>> the virtue of the free market.
>>
>>
>> With abandon,
>>
>> Patrick
>>
>> On Saturday, May 28, 2016 at 11:45:51 AM UTC-6, Skenry wrote:
>>>
>>> Deacon,
>>> You might want to read some of  and others posts.
>>>
>>> It has been specifically stated that people liked the company before,
>>> and no longer do and they could not recommend them anymore after they
>>> EXPANDED their offerings.
>>>
>>> How tolerant is that?   The "my way out the highway" approach doesn't
>>> fly with me.
>>>
>>> Choice is a good thing.
>>> Options are good things.
>>>
>>> I expected more from this list.
>>> On May 28, 2016 10:09 AM, "Deacon Patrick"  wrote:
>>>
 Stop being ridiculous, Skenry. Nothing in this thread except your use
 of the words is intolerant or single-minded.

 In deciding between Cleary and Islabike I called and talked with both
 companies. Islabike was very "business and component" focused, Cleary was
 very "parent and kid experience with the bike" focused. That made my
 decision to buy from Cleary easy (despite my natural deference to anything
 resembling an Islay connection. Grin.). As I said earlier, and
 foreshadowing what Mark eventually said: "It shows me their underlying
 principles of bicycling differ greatly from mine."

 With abandon,
 Patrick





 On Friday, May 27, 2016 at 8:35:08 PM UTC-6, Skenry wrote:
>
> And that's the point that is confusing, islabike is still making the
> type of bike that you are referring to. All they are doing is offering
> consumers a choice.
>
> Intolerance and single-sightedness don't seem to be those Riv
> qualities that some of you preach on about.
>
> So it's a great company if they make only the type of bike that you
> want?  But it's a bad company if they make the bike you want AND the type
> of bike that someone else may want?
>
> Wow.  It's no wonder the reputation garnered here.
> On May 27, 2016 5:26 PM, "'Mark in Beacon' via RBW Owners Bunch" <
> rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>
>> You guys are conflating the things I've written.This is not about
>> snobbery or proselytizing,  not about anti this or that, not about who
>> should or should not be on the list. I did not question anyone's
>> qualifications for being on RBW.  If you have actually read what I wrote
>> and the reason for my, let's face it, in the context of life, mild dismay
>> at Islabikes is not clear, I cheerfully give up! Wait, one last time:
>>
>> There is a kid's bicycle company. It appeared that they had some
>> Riv-like qualities and a similar 

Re: [RBW] Re: Remember Islabikes?

[Scott Henry]

Deacon,
You might want to read some of  and others posts.

It has been specifically stated that people liked the company before, and
no longer do and they could not recommend them anymore after they EXPANDED
their offerings.

How tolerant is that?   The "my way out the highway" approach doesn't fly
with me.

Choice is a good thing.
Options are good things.

I expected more from this list.
On May 28, 2016 10:09 AM, "Deacon Patrick"  wrote:

> Stop being ridiculous, Skenry. Nothing in this thread except your use of
> the words is intolerant or single-minded.
>
> In deciding between Cleary and Islabike I called and talked with both
> companies. Islabike was very "business and component" focused, Cleary was
> very "parent and kid experience with the bike" focused. That made my
> decision to buy from Cleary easy (despite my natural deference to anything
> resembling an Islay connection. Grin.). As I said earlier, and
> foreshadowing what Mark eventually said: "It shows me their underlying
> principles of bicycling differ greatly from mine."
>
> With abandon,
> Patrick
>
>
>
>
>
> On Friday, May 27, 2016 at 8:35:08 PM UTC-6, Skenry wrote:
>>
>> And that's the point that is confusing, islabike is still making the type
>> of bike that you are referring to. All they are doing is offering
>> consumers a choice.
>>
>> Intolerance and single-sightedness don't seem to be those Riv qualities
>> that some of you preach on about.
>>
>> So it's a great company if they make only the type of bike that you
>> want?  But it's a bad company if they make the bike you want AND the type
>> of bike that someone else may want?
>>
>> Wow.  It's no wonder the reputation garnered here.
>> On May 27, 2016 5:26 PM, "'Mark in Beacon' via RBW Owners Bunch" <
>> rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>>
>>> You guys are conflating the things I've written.This is not about
>>> snobbery or proselytizing,  not about anti this or that, not about who
>>> should or should not be on the list. I did not question anyone's
>>> qualifications for being on RBW.  If you have actually read what I wrote
>>> and the reason for my, let's face it, in the context of life, mild dismay
>>> at Islabikes is not clear, I cheerfully give up! Wait, one last time:
>>>
>>> There is a kid's bicycle company. It appeared that they had some
>>> Riv-like qualities and a similar approach to bicycles as RBW. I purchased a
>>> bike from them based in some good measure on this approach. They are now
>>> offering a line of kid's bikes that in many ways goes against this approach
>>> toward making and selling bicycles. I am disappointed. You don't have to
>>> be. Not in the slightest.
>>>
>>> On Friday, May 27, 2016 at 4:30:26 PM UTC-4, Daniel D. wrote:

 Because I like steel, I like pretty paint jobs, I like wool, I like
 swedish axes, I like leather saddles, I like lugs, I like racks, I like
 nice bags, I like the best bike shop experience ever,

  But what I enjoy and am willing to spend is not the end all be all .
 Don't get the snobbery and need for it to be a "cause".

 On Friday, May 27, 2016 at 11:56:27 AM UTC-7, Mark in Beacon wrote:
>
> And by the way, this idea that they are "filling a market" and "giving
> customers what they want" is also a bit suspect. One reason RBW is such a
> niche company is that the majority of people shopping for bicycles are at
> the mercy of the industry, which has a vested interest in pushing certain
> types of bicycles. And if you don't get that, I am truly puzzled why you
> are on this list. (Note that none of this means I think people should only
> ride Rivendells, or that carbon sucks, or that people cannot have fun on
> pro style racing bicycles. It's not about that per se.)
>
>
> On Friday, May 27, 2016 at 11:40:55 AM UTC-4, RJM wrote:
>>
>> There is a lot of negativity towards this company here which made me
>> check the link so I can understand why, and after I still don't get it.
>>
>> I've never heard of this company before but I understand why they are
>> making this pro line...not a lot of companies cater to the young racer 
>> and
>> offer equipment for that. They are filling a market. If you don't believe
>> that kids that young are racing then you aren't attending many races. 
>> Just
>> this past weekend I worked a local mountain bike race day and there was a
>> kid class, and they were competitive and having fun at the same time 
>> riding
>> a smaller portion of the same trail that the adults rode on. Very capable
>> kids.
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Re: [RBW] Chainrings...when to replace?

[Scott Henry]

I'll just toss out Surly rings.They are really cheap and amazingly
durable.

You can get just about any size you like, in popular bolt patterns, the one
issue for some of you may be the full tooth profile.  No shifting help at
all.But did I mention that they are durable?

The only chainring I liked more were Salsa rings.  Engagement rings I
believe they were called, unfortunately discontinued a few years ago.




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Re: [RBW] Re: Remember Islabikes?

[Scott Henry]

And that's the point that is confusing, islabike is still making the type
of bike that you are referring to. All they are doing is offering
consumers a choice.

Intolerance and single-sightedness don't seem to be those Riv qualities
that some of you preach on about.

So it's a great company if they make only the type of bike that you want?
But it's a bad company if they make the bike you want AND the type of bike
that someone else may want?

Wow.  It's no wonder the reputation garnered here.
On May 27, 2016 5:26 PM, "'Mark in Beacon' via RBW Owners Bunch" <
rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com> wrote:

> You guys are conflating the things I've written.This is not about snobbery
> or proselytizing,  not about anti this or that, not about who should or
> should not be on the list. I did not question anyone's qualifications for
> being on RBW.  If you have actually read what I wrote and the reason for
> my, let's face it, in the context of life, mild dismay at Islabikes is not
> clear, I cheerfully give up! Wait, one last time:
>
> There is a kid's bicycle company. It appeared that they had some Riv-like
> qualities and a similar approach to bicycles as RBW. I purchased a bike
> from them based in some good measure on this approach. They are now
> offering a line of kid's bikes that in many ways goes against this approach
> toward making and selling bicycles. I am disappointed. You don't have to
> be. Not in the slightest.
>
> On Friday, May 27, 2016 at 4:30:26 PM UTC-4, Daniel D. wrote:
>>
>> Because I like steel, I like pretty paint jobs, I like wool, I like
>> swedish axes, I like leather saddles, I like lugs, I like racks, I like
>> nice bags, I like the best bike shop experience ever,
>>
>>  But what I enjoy and am willing to spend is not the end all be all .
>> Don't get the snobbery and need for it to be a "cause".
>>
>> On Friday, May 27, 2016 at 11:56:27 AM UTC-7, Mark in Beacon wrote:
>>>
>>> And by the way, this idea that they are "filling a market" and "giving
>>> customers what they want" is also a bit suspect. One reason RBW is such a
>>> niche company is that the majority of people shopping for bicycles are at
>>> the mercy of the industry, which has a vested interest in pushing certain
>>> types of bicycles. And if you don't get that, I am truly puzzled why you
>>> are on this list. (Note that none of this means I think people should only
>>> ride Rivendells, or that carbon sucks, or that people cannot have fun on
>>> pro style racing bicycles. It's not about that per se.)
>>>
>>>
>>> On Friday, May 27, 2016 at 11:40:55 AM UTC-4, RJM wrote:

 There is a lot of negativity towards this company here which made me
 check the link so I can understand why, and after I still don't get it.

 I've never heard of this company before but I understand why they are
 making this pro line...not a lot of companies cater to the young racer and
 offer equipment for that. They are filling a market. If you don't believe
 that kids that young are racing then you aren't attending many races. Just
 this past weekend I worked a local mountain bike race day and there was a
 kid class, and they were competitive and having fun at the same time riding
 a smaller portion of the same trail that the adults rode on. Very capable
 kids.

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Re: [RBW] Re: Remember Islabikes?

[Scott Henry]

I'm on this list because I like bicycles.All of them, not just bikes
that Grant markets.   He does contract out some pretty ones, but I like all
bikes.   My stable starts with a 1958 Schwinn and goes straight thru to a
2015 Haanjo cross.   There are bikes of steel, aluminum and carbon, I've
sold a ti.They all ride different, but they are all fine bikes designed
for different tasks.   I have a quickbeam, its pretty and it does what it
is designed to do.

Sometimes I wonder how many on this list in particular have ever ridden a
carbon bike.  They really aren't that bad and they certainly aren't that
dangerous.I can't see how it will hurt their 'retention of value' in
the least.
Ideal fit, durability and ease of maintenance is really just marketing
verbiage.   Its a bicycle: fit comes from offering sizes, bikes are durable
by design and ease of maintenance - there are 12 year olds building these
things in asia, they aren't that complicated.



On Fri, May 27, 2016 at 2:56 PM, 'Mark in Beacon' via RBW Owners Bunch <
rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com> wrote:

> From my first post in this thread:
>
>
>> *I understand there are arguments for the existence of these things--hey,
>> if you have the money and you want the "best" why not? Hey, life is
>> competition, give the kid an edge. Hey, why not emulate your "heroes. ...*
>
>
>
>> *It goes without saying that this is strictly my point of view. *
>>
>
> But since you never heard of the company until today I am going to assume
> you are also not familiar with its original approach to kid's bikes, that
> may be why you don't understand why at least a couple of us who bought
> bicycles from them recently might feel betrayed or disappointed by this
> latest direction of "pro" bicycles for 4-year-olds. From Why Islabikes:
>
> *It’s easy to be tempted by the latest technology on adult bikes and the
>> ideas that often unnecessarily trickle down to kids’ bikes. Isla focuses on
>> the sort of advantages that make riding easier and more pleasurable*
>>
>> *The reputation of an Islabike helps maintain high resale value. A bike
>> designed with an emphasis on making the whole ride experience easier and
>> safer will never have the cheapest price tag, however, the ideal fit,
>> durability, ease of maintenance, and desirability of an Islabike ensure
>> retention of value. *
>>
>
> Sound at all like the ethos embodied by another bicycle company you've
> heard of? (Note that the "retention of value" to this point does not yet
> include the new pro line, which is still in the pre-order phase.) Sound at
> all like they will need to change this little blurb with the advent of the
> "Pro Series"?
>
>  As I also said earlier, if I had known this was Islabikes take on things,
> I had several other choices in terms of companies that sell decent kids
> bikes to choose from and might well have gone another way. So you see, it's
> partly the context here, which should be clear enough. And by that I mean
> both the scenario outlined above and the fact that this is a forum that, at
> least loosely, is based on the idea of celebrating a philosophy of "just
> ride," of practical bicycles not limited by the parameters of modern day
> pro level machines. No doubt there are many places on the Internet to
> celebrate carbon fiber racing bicycles designed for kids 4-12 years old.
>
> And by the way, this idea that they are "filling a market" and "giving
> customers what they want" is also a bit suspect. One reason RBW is such a
> niche company is that the majority of people shopping for bicycles are at
> the mercy of the industry, which has a vested interest in pushing certain
> types of bicycles. And if you don't get that, I am truly puzzled why you
> are on this list. (Note that none of this means I think people should only
> ride Rivendells, or that carbon sucks, or that people cannot have fun on
> pro style racing bicycles. It's not about that per se.)
>
>
> On Friday, May 27, 2016 at 11:40:55 AM UTC-4, RJM wrote:
>>
>> There is a lot of negativity towards this company here which made me
>> check the link so I can understand why, and after I still don't get it.
>>
>> I've never heard of this company before but I understand why they are
>> making this pro line...not a lot of companies cater to the young racer and
>> offer equipment for that. They are filling a market. If you don't believe
>> that kids that young are racing then you aren't attending many races. Just
>> this past weekend I worked a local mountain bike race day and there was a
>> kid class, and they were competitive and having fun at the same time riding
>> a smaller portion of the same trail that the adults rode on. Very capable
>> kids.
>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Chainrings...when to replace?

[Scott Henry]

3000 on some chainrings seems really low.   I'm taking it that you are a
low cadence / masher?
How about the chain, how many times have you changed it so far?



On Fri, May 27, 2016 at 8:58 AM, Ron Mc  wrote:

> might want to hunt in UK for TA chainrings
>
>
> On Friday, May 27, 2016 at 3:48:16 AM UTC-5, Lungimsam wrote:
>>
>> But I think I only have 3k miles on them.
>> If they go bad that fast, what better options are there to put on the
>> xd600 cranks that will last longer?
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Re: [RBW] Re: Remember Islabikes?

[Scott Henry]

Wow is right.   I have no idea what world some of you all live in.
Islabike only has one philosophy, to make money.   They will sell the
consumer whatever they want to buy.That's how this works.

On Thu, May 26, 2016 at 8:34 PM, 'Mark in Beacon' via RBW Owners Bunch <
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>
> 
> I agree 100% with Leah. Disappointing.
>
> I bought an Islabike for  my 6 year old in March. He loves the bike. I
> will say that if they were offering the "pro" series at that time, I would
> have seriously considered going in another direction.
>
> For me the issue is not necessarily the safety of carbon--I will assume
> that is really no more of an issue these days than any other material. (but
> carbon steerer? Really?)
>
> For me the issue is the blatant attempt to make kids want the "pro stuff."
> Now, companies have long used pro names to sell merch, from baseball gloves
> to sneakers to bicycles (Sears had a "Ted Williams" bicycle.) But the
> ever-increasing specialization and technization of professional racing
> bicycles makes it kind of absurd to create a kid's bike in this image. Here
> is the bike for the Age 4 set (the only one without disc brakes, by the
> way):
> Cnoc 16 Pro Series
>
> Age 4+ / $1199.99
>
>  *The first bike we all dreamed of and the most important bike you’ll
> ever buy.*
>
> *The Cnoc 16 Pro Series is a superb introduction to riding for the young
> cyclist in your life. Stunning specifications and features will give them
> an unforgettable experience at one of the most important stages of their
> cycling development.*
>
>
> Riggght. The main takeaway a young cyclist will get during this "most
> important stage of their cycling development" is that, to really succeed,
> you need to buy the bling, baby. But hey, we need to create good little
> consumers, and what better time in life to sink your brand in?
>
>
> In the How We've Used Carbon Fiber section, there's this:
>>
>> This decision to adopt the use of carbon fiber has lead to us designing
>> and developing our own range of perfectly proportioned, ultra-light forks,
>> specifically tailored to work perfectly with our Pro Series frames.
>>
>> The Pro Series forks are constructed of Toray T700s standard modulus
>> unidirectional carbon fiber. ..blah blah technomumbojumbo blah blah...
>>
>>
>> *Through manipulation of the fork shape we have been able to achieve the
>> ride qualities we were looking for.* (My emphasis) Our exclusive
>> monocoque design features gently curved fork legs which reduce in size
>> towards the center allowing the fork to flex evenly along its entire length
>> for ride comfort, while flattened profiles retain steering sharpness
>>
>>
>> By using multiple unidirectional carbon fiber layers in varying degrees
>> throughout the fork we can also adjust the fork characteristicsblah
>> blah multidirectional blah blah layup...blah blah
>>
>> For the ultimate in lightweight, the forks feature full carbon
>> construction of the legs, crown and steerer. Because they are designed for
>> lighter riders we have been able to build them significantly lighter than
>> equivalent adults models whilst still being strong enough to withstand
>> rigorous loads — over and above testing...
>>
>>
>> We’ve incorporated a neat internal routing for the brake hose on our disc
>> brake models, keeping the cable out of harms way and removing the need for
>> a screw-on clamp.
>>
>
> Seriously? How would you know that you've achieved "the ride qualities
> 'you' were looking for?" By tooling around the test track on a 16" wheeled
> bicycle? Come on. Keeping the cable out of harm's way? What about the
> revolving discs that the pros recently decided to ban? Sheesh.
>
> I had to think long and hard before laying out in the neighborhood of $600
> for a bike my 6-year-old will outgrown in 2 years max. I did it because he
> has shown a real interest and enjoyment in bicycling, and it is something
> we do together, and the bike's features had a true cost for benefit logic.
> Plus I figured a chunk of that would be recouped at resale, or his younger
> cousin would ride it. $1200 for a 4-year-old's bicycle is, honestly, nuts.
> And not just because it is out of my price range. My son's mother wanted to
> buy him the same bicycle to have when he is with her! I said please, no,
> let's just get the bike back and forth. What kind of values would we be
> teaching by getting him two of the same bicycle? Or a "pro" bike that looks
> just as menacing and depressing as today's "real race bicycle" and goes
> well above and beyond what any kid needs (or really, should have) at that
> age? The "regular" Islabikes come in bright, fun kid colors. The "pro"
> bikes come in stealth matte black with blood red highlighting.
>
> I understand there are arguments for the existence of these things--hey,

Re: [RBW] Indian food run and Goose face-off!

[Scott Henry]

Who else wants to make an "Indians don't eat geese" joke?

On Thu, May 26, 2016 at 5:00 PM, Tim Gavin 
wrote:

> We have a big goose over-population problem in my town (Cedar Rapids, IA),
> especially on the bike paths near the river.  Go figure!  But it's become
> serious enough that the city is planning on hunting or trapping many of the
> geese (in rural land on the edge of the city) and donating them to food
> pantries.
> 
>
> The path near Cedar Lake is completely infested with geese and goslings,
> and the path is totally covered in "goose grease".  It's almost the same
> color and almost as slippery as Park/Paul grease.  A couple people have
> wiped out on the "goose grease" and hurt themselves.
>
> The geese parents are very defensive when they have goslings (they're
> pretty passive the rest of the year).  They get all the food they want from
> the greenery on the edge of the path (I call them "flying cows" for their
> size and grazing habits).
>
> I have good luck diverting them off the path by dinging my bell and
> "honking" at them with my voice.  They'll still hiss at me as I pass, but
> at least they're doing it from the grassy verge instead of the middle of
> the path.
>
> Best of luck,
> Tim
>
> On Thu, May 26, 2016 at 3:41 PM, Lungimsam  wrote:
>
>> One of my favorite things to do is meet my wife at out favorite Indian
>> restaurants for lunch buffet.
>>
>> I ride my bike there and back, and she drives there and back. Suburban
>> roads and MUP. She encourages me to ride all the time so it is nice having
>> a wife that is understanding and encouraging about bike riding.
>>
>> Today, I took a pic of the bike locked up in place, and then, on the ride
>> home, pics of some geese and their gooselets on the path and the adults
>> hissed at me and wouldn't let me pass. The babies and parents walked
>> towards me. I was wondering if they wanted food or if they were just
>> standing their ground. I figured the parents were going to be aggressive
>> because the gooselets were with them and I didn't want to get bit, or upset
>> them any more so I turned around and went around the other side of the lake.
>>
>> Enjoy the pics...
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Re: [RBW] Re: Remember Islabikes?

[Scott Henry]

Carbon is much much sturdier than you think.Carbon is also much more
trusted everywhere else in life than it is on this list.By the mode of
thinking around here, carbon would also have no place on a seatpost,
mountainbike, or a folder, or a car, airframe, in the military
It'll be fine.

You'd be surprised at how overbuilt cheap carbon like that really is.
Top end racing carbon parts wouldn't be good for children, but then again,
neither would top end aluminum or lightweight steel.   Carbon forks on
those cheap bikes, and by that I'm referring to anything retailing below
about $1500, are really study.   Many of those forks aren't even that much
lighter.   They are built sturdy, maybe tapered and aero, but they are
built like a tank.

On Thu, May 26, 2016 at 10:42 AM, Deacon Patrick  wrote:

> In a world of "racing light" is king, customers will buy carbon and be
> uninformed that the bikes are throwaway after the first hard knock (who can
> imagine that with a kid's bike?" or at the very least the frame integrity
> needs be checked by a competent specialist after every spill ("did you drop
> your bike today, Davey?". I think of the "fork wars" video: how many times
> as a kid did I leap off my bike, take a tumble, or simply slam my bike down
> hard, with a lot of lateral pressure on the fork/frame? Far more than I
> ever realized.
>
> What I find concerning is precisely that carbon has no place in a kid's
> bike. Ever. Yet they are offering it. It shows me their underlying
> principles of bicycling differ greatly from mine.
>
> With abandon,
> Patrick
>
> On Wednesday, May 25, 2016 at 3:51:39 PM UTC-6, Brewster Fong wrote:
>>
>>
>> I don't get this post. So what if they are expanding into carbon?   I
>> don't think a carbon bike by itself is going to cause all the death and
>> destruction that many people fear.
>>
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Re: [RBW] Replacing chainrings questions.

[Scott Henry]

Ahhh, just saw the other thread...
Scott

On Wed, May 25, 2016 at 8:11 AM, Ron Mc  wrote:

> I think he found the Riv video and knows to pull the crank.  Grease the
> tapers, don't grease the crank bolts.  (I know, Jan says the opposite)
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Re: [RBW] Replacing chainrings questions.

[Scott Henry]

Its going to be easiest to take off your entire crankset, the 'hidden' bolt
is really just on the back side.   For one tooth difference you shouldn't
have to readjust the FD, the ring will be nominally the same size.   Do
make sure your chain isn't too worn either.

So, take the drive side crank arm off.   Remove the inner granny ring, 5
bolts, watch as sometime there is a spacer between the ring and the arm.
Then you'll have easy access to the 'hidden' bolt and can also easily
remove the other 4 as well.

Then we can start a new thread about re-installing the crankarm as to
greasing the taper or leaving it dry.(I'm a lube it guy)
Scott

On Tue, May 24, 2016 at 4:12 PM, Lungimsam  wrote:

> 1. I am thinking of getting the RBW Silver rings as they are designed to
> go right on the Sugino cranksets. So, for users, are they really a direct
> replacement and go on well with no trouble?
>
> I like that I can get them one tooth less than what I have now for a
> little lighter gearing, without having to get a 32-36 cassette, as I don't
> like the aesthetic of large cassettes (looks like a discus from the ND side
> of the bike to me.).
>
> 3. Will the one tooth diff make me have to adjust the FD down on the ST?
>
> 4. How do you access the hidden bolt on the XD crankset?
>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Aggressive cycling pack and I slipped up today

[Scott Henry]

"Plus, wouldnt you want to be able to say you did the ride under your own
steam? Maybe thats not important to some. Maybe its not important."

- Thats crazy, drafting is easier.   That's why people do it.   Bicycles,
cars, runners.   Drafting works for a reason, you can ride easier, whether
its for speed, for time or even to allow the tired out of shape rider to
make it back home.
As was stated though, don't look at the rear wheel, look at the hips.
Once you are in the groove you can accelerate, slow, rest, turn, get led
out, anything, all without looking.   Its trust and teamwork.


On Tue, May 24, 2016 at 1:02 AM, Lungimsam  wrote:

> I know it must be fun to gain the speed of a paceline. But one cannot say
> they finished the ride under ones own steam.
>
> Racers understandably use plines. But I dont get randonneurs using
> pacelines though. Comeradery. But seems it flies in the face of the self
> sufficiency ethic.
>
> Ill admit that i am too chicken to pline and i think it is suicide to not
> look ahead while riding. Eyes locked onto the guys rear wheel? No human has
> reflexes enough to brake in time. Scary.
>
> Plus, wouldnt you want to be able to say you did the ride under your own
> steam? Maybe thats not important to some. Maybe its not important.
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Re: [RBW] Re: good blug post on rim and disk brakes

[Scott Henry]

I'd go hands down every time for hydraulic discs over cable.   Not sure why
they get a bad rep, I find them so much easier to bleed and set up than the
cables.
I have been running hydraulics since my old Magura hydro rim brakes back in
the 1990's though.   BTW - they are still in use on my tandem.

Whatever you end up using, Disc/Canti/V or hydro/cable, learn how they work
and how to work on them...

Scott

On Tue, May 24, 2016 at 8:04 AM, masmojo  wrote:

> If people aren't "handy", it really does not matter what type of brake it
> is! They all have their quirks. Caliper brakes used to drive me batty until
> I worked in a bike shop & learned some of the tricks for adjusting them.
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Re: [RBW] Re: hard cases for shipping

[Scott Henry]

Nope, I think ALL new bikes and frames come in cardboard boxes, the days of
wood crates are behind us.

You can always ask your local shop or even target/walmart, etc to let you
watch the unboxing process.A packed bike will look exactly the same,
brand doesn't matter.You would be amazed at how little packing material
there is.   But you will notice that its all one piece, lots of zip ties.
Most of your shipping damage will come from parts moving around and
scratching your frame, make it one big piece and things wont move.There
isn't much disassembly to do.   You only remove the front wheel (and
fender), pedals, seat and stem/bars.Front racks come off, rear racks
depends on size.   Get the box for free, wrap the frame tubes with pipe
wrap, secure wheels and bars into a one piece unit.Drop it in the box,
brace the sides with extra cardboard.   Its helpful to sometimes get 2 free
boxes.Put the saddle and pedals into a small box and pop it in the
corner on the bike box.

Something else to look into is the two small box approach of frame in one
box and wheels/fenders in box number 2.

The most important part, tape the box up tight and REMOVE all old shipping
labels.Seriously, you don't want you bike to end up back at the asian
factory or at the shop that gave you the free box.   This probably was more
important in the eyeball days, modern bar codes shouldn't let this happen,
but...

>From experience with part time college work back in the day, nothing says
"abuse me" more than a black plastic shipping case.   Contents don't
matter, it you bought he shipping container, it must be super durable.
Musical instruments get it much worse than bikes, bike cases are on the
edge of too big to throw.

Back to the OP, a 58cm isn't too big at all.   Ask the shop for a L or XL
mountainbike box and you can probably leave the rear rack and fender on.
Scott



On Mon, May 23, 2016 at 6:37 PM, Bob Ehrenbeck  wrote:

> Thanks for the reply, Doug. (And that's also a good idea regarding the
> dimension stenciling.)
>
> Like Matt, I'm also a bit uneasy about putting my bike in a cardboard box.
> Maybe I'm just paranoid, as of course lots of brand new bikes are shipped
> that way (although they probably do a better job packing than me).
>
> I guess it's a toss-up between peace of mind vs. less disassembly.
>
> Bob E
> (who's still waiting on that Star Trek transporter to be developed.)
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Re: [RBW] Re: good blug post on rim and disk brakes

[Scott Henry]

Brakes are important.   Whatever type you have on your bike, make sure they
work well.Pick the type that will work for you and the riding that you
do.
For me, my next frame will be a disc road.

Grant is an excellent writer who designs very pretty bicycles.He writes
wonderfully and can extol the virtues of whatever products that his site is
offering.
It's called sales and marketing.




On Fri, May 13, 2016 at 1:02 PM, drew  wrote:

> im no scientist, and ive never used disc brakes, but the argument that the
> stopping force near the hub is too extreme doesnt really work in my head,
> as long as modulation is in play. i would understand it, if he is talking
> about locking up the wheel on a regular basis, but assuming that's not the
> case and you are just trying to slow down normally, is there any real risk
> to the frame?
>
> anyway, i like rim brakes. i like the way they look. i know how to put
> them together and take them apart. ill probably never need or want a disc
> brake bike.  i don't ride in the rain or mud very much here in CA, but when
> i do, stopping can get scary. i can see someone wanting a better option for
> that type of riding...which isnt really fringe riding for a lot of the
> world.
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Re: [RBW] Re: Sin urrr gi Rims

[Scott Henry]

Either go tubeless or just put sealant in the tubes.   I worry about enough
things in my life, getting a flat isn't one of them.


On Wed, May 11, 2016 at 9:51 PM, Michael Hechmer  wrote:

> Soapy water and very hi pressure worked very well.
>
> Michael
>
>
> On Wednesday, May 11, 2016 at 6:39:48 PM UTC-4, Surlyprof wrote:
>>
>> Michael,
>>
>> I'm looking forward to trying your mechanic's soapy water trick when
>> school's out.  How did it work out for you?  I'm curious because the last
>> time I mounted my Barlow Pass tires on my Synergies I got to "enjoy" some
>> extra quality time with the bike stand before getting them right.  Lots of
>> trial and error.
>>
>> John
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Re: [RBW] Re: Bicycling Magazine redeems itself...a little.

[Scott Henry]

"it's just the whole gruppo thing"

That's even more confusing to me.   It's bad when things are designed to
work well together?   This seems to be a particularly strange part of the
cycling world.


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> it's just the whole gruppo thing
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Re: [RBW] Re: Carry a Multi-tool or loose tools, and why?

[Scott Henry]

I'm liking this thread.

Off the top of my head I can't really tell you what I carry, but I know its
not much.At least a knife and a cellphone.Sealant in the tires or
tubes will cause you to become reckless in your ER kits.

Thinking of Tim's post though, maybe cyclists should start carrying
challenge coins of our own.   Tweak the rules a bit, maybe challenge for a
beer or a coffee.   That might be more popular in this group.I have a
small collection in my carry rotation, I could see a couple custom
Rivendell / cycling coins, sorta like flat headbadges



On Tue, May 10, 2016 at 5:08 PM, Tim Gavin 
wrote:

> Flat repair:  Sometimes I swap in the spare tube and move on, and
> sometimes I patch the original.
> However, by the time I pump up the flat tube to diagnose the flat, it
> seems easiest just to patch the hole(s) I find right then and there.
> So, my flat fix procedure is:
> 1) remove tube and pump up to find leak
> 2) scour area around hole with sandpaper, apply glue
> 3) sweep the tire looking for the cause of the puncture, remove it
> 4) apply patch now that glue is tacky
> 5) press patch firmly and count to 30
> 6) pump up tube to double-check for other holes
> 7) re-insert tube, remount tire
>
> However, if I have other riders waiting on me, I'll ask one of them to put
> a new tube in the tire and start pumping while I patch the flat tube for
> re-use later.  This takes less time on a group ride.
>
> Last week, I had my two punctures:
> A) on my Riv Road 650b, where a small thorn punctured the tread.  Easily
> removed and patched.  First flat in ~1700 miles on Pari-Motos!
> B) on my plastic Foundry Auger, where a metal staple punctured the tread.
> Easily removed and patched, Bontrager CX0 tires.
>
>
> On each bike, I carry:
>
> Pump (2 pumps get swapped around between my five bikes:  a Zefal HPX #4,
> for the 2 Rivs with pump pegs, and a Lezyne Micro Floor Drive
>  for
> the others)
> Spare tube
> Patch kit (I love the Rema Tip-Top 20
> , which includes
> tire levers)
> Tire levers (see above)
> Multi-tool (my faves are the Crank Brothers M10
>  or M17
> )
> Saddle cover
> Short bungee or two (for parking brake, or for lashing on a jacket)
> Lock (usually a light cable or chain; I don't lock my bikes in high-theft
> areas)
>
> If the bike has battery lights (2 of 5 bikes), I pack spare batteries.
>
> My fat bike has an appetite for chains, so I carry at least one Connex
> link and usually a spare chain, and the fattie gets the M17 which includes
> a chain tool.
>
>
> On tour, I add:
> Leatherman Wave pliers/multi-tool
> Brake cable
> Shift Cable
> Chain
> FiberFix emergency spoke replacement
> Silver shifter replacement disks
> If I'm riding a 650b bike, I'll add a spare tire.
>
>
> I actually used the Leatherman on last year's RAGBRAI.  I stopped for a
> group that were all staring at one guy trying to remove his rear wheel to
> change a flat.  Turns out, he borrowed a bike that had security axles, and
> he either didn't have the key or didn't know where to look for it.  The
> axle end was easily removed with my Leatherman pliers (not that secure).
> The group turned out to be the US Air Force cycling team, and they gave me
> a cool commemorative coin (aka Round Metallic Object, RMO
> ) for my trouble.
>
> They said they were relieved to see me pull over, since I would obviously
> have tools in my big panniers (correct assumption).  They were all on road
> bikes with minimal bags.  But, in their defense, they were supported by
> RAGBRAI crew plus their own support team.  I just got there a lot sooner.
> Fellow airmen to the rescue!  (FYI, I flew B-1 bombers for 8 years)
>
> They also appreciated my frame pump, which was easier work than the tiny
> pump they were going to use.
>
> Cheers,
> Tim
>
> On Tue, May 10, 2016 at 3:09 PM, Jim Bronson 
> wrote:
>
>> Yeah what Steve said.  Although, I do have some admiration for people who
>> do patch tubes successfully.  I've never been able to get the technique
>> down quite right.
>>
>> On Tue, May 10, 2016 at 1:38 PM, Steve Palincsar 
>> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> On 05/10/2016 09:25 AM, Ginz wrote:
>>>
 I'd eliminate one of the tubes.  A single tube with patches should be
 sufficient.

>>>
>>> "Should."   I guess you've never had a bad day.  Or failed to find a
>>> nearly invisible wire or itsy bitsy tiny glass shard.  I have.  And even on
>>> a group ride, with all but two of my bikes nobody in the group but me is
>>> going to have tubes that will fit.  So I carry 3 tubes, and let them weigh
>>> what they weigh.  As for patches: fine as a last ditch alternative, but if
>>> you're having a bad day odds are that either 

Re: [RBW] Re: Rims for tubeless conversion

[Scott Henry]

They absolutely won't match the rest of your stable, but probably the best,
solid wheelset out there for the price.I've done 2 cross seasons on
them and lots of screwing around on them the rest of the time.   And I'm
230#.


On Tue, May 10, 2016 at 3:47 PM, Mike in WA  wrote:

> Yes, I'm seeing those for $320 on Chain Reaction, but those spoke counts
> are very troublesome to me. 20 in the back and 16 in the front? Seems a
> little (or a lot) risky.
>
> On Tuesday, May 10, 2016 at 5:12:20 AM UTC-7, Skenry wrote:
>>
>> How about these:
>>
>> http://www.performancebike.com/bikes/Product_10052_10551_1167852_-1_400222__400222
>>
>> From elsewhere, you can get them for even closer to $300.   Hard to beat
>> them.
>>
>>
>> On Tue, May 10, 2016 at 2:47 AM, Mike in WA  wrote:
>>
>>> Yes, the Velocity A23 looks like a very good option, Bill. I told my
>>> brother to get this and order some Schwalbe Pro One's from Germany for a
>>> tubeless setup, should be pretty sweet. I think that's the new slick
>>> tubeless tire from Scwalbe that someone mentioned in another post. He's
>>> getting it in 622 X 28mm.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Monday, May 9, 2016 at 8:06:11 PM UTC-7, Bill Lindsay wrote:

 Velocity A23 is an option.

 On Monday, May 9, 2016 at 6:58:28 PM UTC-7, Mike in WA wrote:
>
> My brother is looking to build up a new wheelset with a standard rim
> braked, 700C road bike and wants to go tubeless with a Scwalbe One. Can
> anyone recommend a rim that will work for this bike and seat a tubeless
> tire properly? I'm familiar with the world of rims for tubeless 29er 
> MTB's,
> but I haven't messed with a road conversion ever. Are there some safe and
> reliable options?
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Re: [RBW] Thoughts on tubeless?

[Scott Henry]

What you want is (probably multiple) layers of tape to build up a shelf to
support and seal the bottom edge of the tire bead.
As there isn't a tube, you don't need the deep valley in the rim bed.   For
valves, just get whatever is cheapest, they don't really do much.





On Tue, May 10, 2016 at 1:19 PM, Mike in WA  wrote:

> I used the WTB WCS Rim Tape  since
> I'm using WTB rims, and it has sealed really well. I think the valves are
> pretty generic, I just used Stan's valves. You'll also need a valve core
> removal tool and I would recommend getting the 4oz bottle of orange seal
> for topping up and a 16oz bottle as the main supply you refill with. Makes
> injecting the sealant easier using their bottle. You will likely need an
> air compressor to get them seated, It's pretty easy with tuebless-ready
> tires though.
>
> On Tuesday, May 10, 2016 at 9:30:22 AM UTC-7, Reed Kennedy wrote:
>
>> The rims are Velocity Dyads, circa 2011 I believe. Since they're from a
>> while ago I doubt they're tubeless compatible, but I have no idea how to
>> tell if they're easily converted. Any suggestions?
>>
>> And thanks for the advice (and you too Mike)! Sign me up for Orange Seal.
>> Since I won't be getting the Stans kit, any advice on what other stuff I'll
>> need? Valves and rim strips and all that? What are you using?
>>
>>
>> Best,
>> Reed
>>
>> On Tuesday, May 10, 2016 at 5:06:13 AM UTC-7, Skenry wrote:
>>>
>>> What rims are you running?
>>> That has always been the deciding factor for me.   If they are tubeless
>>> compatible or easily convertable, most definately go for it.   And I agree
>>> with Mike in WA, use orange seal.Stans can work, but lately I've only
>>> been using it in my tubes as a preventative.Orange Seal just seems to
>>> work easier.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, May 9, 2016 at 6:36 PM, Reed Kennedy  wrote:
>>>
 I've been loving my new-to-me Hunqapillar, but I gotta say it does feel
 a bit sluggish at times with 2.15" Schwalbe Big Bens on there.

 I'm going to give the lighter Schwalbe Big Ones a shot. It looks like
 the ones I've ordered are tubeless-compatible, so I was thinking of giving
 that a shot. Anyone who's tried it willing to share their thoughts?

 Also, is Stans No Tubes the way to go, or is there a better option?


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Re: [RBW] Re: Rims for tubeless conversion

[Scott Henry]

How about these:
http://www.performancebike.com/bikes/Product_10052_10551_1167852_-1_400222__400222

>From elsewhere, you can get them for even closer to $300.   Hard to beat
them.


On Tue, May 10, 2016 at 2:47 AM, Mike in WA  wrote:

> Yes, the Velocity A23 looks like a very good option, Bill. I told my
> brother to get this and order some Schwalbe Pro One's from Germany for a
> tubeless setup, should be pretty sweet. I think that's the new slick
> tubeless tire from Scwalbe that someone mentioned in another post. He's
> getting it in 622 X 28mm.
>
>
> On Monday, May 9, 2016 at 8:06:11 PM UTC-7, Bill Lindsay wrote:
>>
>> Velocity A23 is an option.
>>
>> On Monday, May 9, 2016 at 6:58:28 PM UTC-7, Mike in WA wrote:
>>>
>>> My brother is looking to build up a new wheelset with a standard rim
>>> braked, 700C road bike and wants to go tubeless with a Scwalbe One. Can
>>> anyone recommend a rim that will work for this bike and seat a tubeless
>>> tire properly? I'm familiar with the world of rims for tubeless 29er MTB's,
>>> but I haven't messed with a road conversion ever. Are there some safe and
>>> reliable options?
>>>
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Re: [RBW] Thoughts on tubeless?

[Scott Henry]

What rims are you running?
That has always been the deciding factor for me.   If they are tubeless
compatible or easily convertable, most definately go for it.   And I agree
with Mike in WA, use orange seal.Stans can work, but lately I've only
been using it in my tubes as a preventative.Orange Seal just seems to
work easier.



On Mon, May 9, 2016 at 6:36 PM, Reed Kennedy  wrote:

> I've been loving my new-to-me Hunqapillar, but I gotta say it does feel a
> bit sluggish at times with 2.15" Schwalbe Big Bens on there.
>
> I'm going to give the lighter Schwalbe Big Ones a shot. It looks like the
> ones I've ordered are tubeless-compatible, so I was thinking of giving that
> a shot. Anyone who's tried it willing to share their thoughts?
>
> Also, is Stans No Tubes the way to go, or is there a better option?
>
>
> Best,
> Reed
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Re: [RBW] Those 105 levers on that Roadeo look so nice...

[Scott Henry]

Yes, the 105 stuff looks good and is a screaming deal too.I agree about
the cranks though, I could care less about the looks though, I just don't
need to start another bolt pattern in my parts bin.   I've ridden the stuff
though, very nice and stiff.  The front deraileur is tough to  adjust, but
once you get it, it works amazingly well.

With 105 groups going for about $400 shipped from England, its hard to not
buy some up.

As for the STI levers themselves, they are the same form factor as the
Ultegra and Dura-Ace mechanicals.



On Sat, May 7, 2016 at 9:47 AM, Lungimsam  wrote:

> Just saw it this morning.
> http://www.rivbike.com/product-p/f-roadeo-wsf4.htm
>
> Not crazy about the crankset, but RBW sure does pick out nice looking and
> working stuff to put on their bikes. Stuff that doesn't break the bank,
> either, which is the best part. Sometimes when I am looking for parts I
> can't find something I like the looks of and I check the RBW site and they
> have something that hits the spot. Seems like the have a knack for getting
> their hands on nice stuff.
>
> If I had to get brifters, I'd like those 105's. They look very nice. I
> like that RBW pics nice stuff but not crazy expensive stuff. In fact, that
> stuff looks so good on that Roadeo that if I got a Roadeo I'd be torn
> between getting a brifter shifting set-up vs. friction Silver shifting set
> up. Partially because I'd want to give their fast-bike model a chance with
> a fast build, even though I love friction shifting and never really want to
> go back to brifters and indexing again.
>
> But that build just looks so light and fast and nice. 105 is
> reminiscent(sp?) of the original blue 'booyay build listed in the
> Rambouillet catalog, too.
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Re: [RBW] More, or less lights/reflectivity better?

[Scott Henry]

Day / Night visibility is an issue for everyone, not just bicyclists.   Its
because every driver is different and will key in, fixate on and notice
different things.  I end up using a single solid red taillight on my
bike.

My motorcycle has a module in it that allows some pulsing of the
taillight.   The rear red light is steady on low all the time, when I push
the brake peg the light then gets bright and flashes fast for 2 seconds and
then stays steady bright.Not really possible for a bike, but it works
great on a motorcycle.   Haven't been hit yet: )   plus "loud pipes
save lives"

I'm a fireman for a long time now, and we have a huge issue nationally with
drivers fixating on our parked apparatus and plowing into the back of the
trucks.   My Department has had only two duty deaths in more than 70 years,
but one of them was a lady driving through and emergency scene with
probably 4 firetrucks and multiple police cars, all with lights flashing.
She drove over two firemen and one cop, killing the cop and one of the
firemen.I'd say there were (conservatively) 25 to 30 rear facing
strobes lights pointing back at her at the time, most likely way too many
and caused confusion/fixation.   Heck, police tactical flashlights have a
strobe feature to disorient assailants.

What we have found is that we still have LEDs and strobes all over the
trucks but the top left rear light is a steady amber light.   Like on a
city service truck.Its been found that amber has the best driver
recognition and connotation of caution to the public.

Sorry, but when drivers don't see other cars, don't notice motorcycles with
90-100dB exhausts and even hit 50', 25 ton firetrucks, we are all
screwed.   Ride defensively.  Hell, we've been setting records around here
so far this year in  drugged up people driving the wrong way on highways
and old drivers hitting BUILDINGS.

I think we've all been on those group rides either early morning or dusk
where we come upon a group of cyclists with their red blinkies all
flashing.   Its like an epileptic seizure waiting to happen.
If I could, I'd run an amber rear light with a slow pulsing dim to bright.
  Don't think anyone makes it yet though, someday.
Scott



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> I read a BQ article that discussed the uncertainty of using more or less
> lighting and reflectivity while bike riding in order to be safer and more
> easily seen on the road.
> At first thought, more would make sense being safer, but the article
> talked about more, or the type of lighting/reflectivity contributing to
> target fixation.
> Also mentioned "visual clutter", as well as daytime/nighttime playing a
> role in what could be used for maximum visibility.
>
> Very interesting, but frustrating, as there is no exact evidence yet that
> shows more or less or what type is better.
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Re: [RBW] Re: painted braze on

[Scott Henry]

Park tool sells taps individually
http://www.parktool.com/search/products/p2/?q=tap

Harbor Freight has a full set of taps and dies (for light use for
anything you'll ever need)
http://www.harborfreight.com/60-pc-sae-metric-tap-and-die-set-60366.html

here is what Sheldon used to say on the subject
http://sheldonbrown.com/tooltips/taps.html


On Thu, Apr 28, 2016 at 10:09 AM, Brian Campbell  wrote:
> +1 and buy the full set. On my AHH I over-tightened the rea rack and
> stripped out one of the eyelets. I have tap set (with the handle!) and was
> able to re-tap to M6. It is good to have tools.
>
>
> On Wednesday, April 27, 2016 at 7:03:16 PM UTC-4, Bill Lindsay wrote:
>>
>> Go to your hardware store and buy a tap, size M5x0.8mm.  It will cost
>> about $6.  If you don't have one, buy a handle for that tap.  It will also
>> cost about $6.  Run that through every rack braze on and every fender braze
>> on and every water bottle bolt hole.  Or ask your local bike shop to chase
>> out the threads for you.  That's the tool they will use.
>>
>> Bill Lindsay
>> El Cerrito, CA
>>
>> On Wednesday, April 27, 2016 at 3:56:21 PM UTC-7, CoalTrain wrote:
>>>
>>> I've been riding my Cheviot for 6 months, and want to add a basket for
>>> store runs.  What's the best way to prep the braze on since they are covered
>>> in paint?  When I put a screw in it wants to go in a wonky direction and I
>>> don't to force it in for fear of screwing the threads up.
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Re: [RBW] Talk to me about bottom brackets

[Scott Henry]

You might get some longevity, but if you are really only riding in the
1000 miles a year, the cheapest shimano cartridge would be the way to
go.You can get a UN-55 for less than $25.

On Wed, Apr 27, 2016 at 4:27 PM, dstein  wrote:
> Why are more expensive bottom brackets more expensive? What do you gain? Is
> it just durability? Or is there any sort of performance gain (ie, does it
> roll smoother, faster, etc)?
>
> I've worked on most bike parts now minus the bottom bracket and headset.
> About to change cranks on my hunqapillar form the Sugino triple (with a 107
> or 110 bb) to a White Industries Eno (with a 113 bb). Trying to figure out
> if I go w/ the $40 bb on Riv's site? Or a White Industries or something
> similar? This bike will see 500-1000 miles a year on dirt and some mud. And
> support the occasional overnighter.
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Re: [RBW] Re: painted braze on

[Scott Henry]

You can always TRY to run the bolt through from the other side to
clean the threads out.   Like Bill says though, it will work fine,
until it doesn't.
Buy the taps, if you work on your bikes, you should get a complete
bike set anyway.

Good luck.
Scott

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Re: [RBW] Re: Lawyers lips and helmets (or: WTB - Peugeot PX-10 fork)

[Scott Henry]

I'm not 1000% sure on this, but regarding the lawyer lips.I know
that they are required on bicycles sold in the United States,
Rivendell sells frames.They can sell you more parts and build them
up, but it is sold as a frame.
Scott

On Thu, Apr 21, 2016 at 7:15 AM, WETH  wrote:
> Kevin,
> Glad you are relatively unscathed from the experience.
> Take care,
> Erl
>
>
> On Wednesday, April 20, 2016 at 8:22:15 PM UTC-4, Kevin Lindsey wrote:
>>
>> This is on-topic.
>> Aside from being a Riv fanatic, I also love old steel racing bikes.  Over
>> the past three months, I rebuilt a 1972 (i.e. pre-lawyer lips) Peugeot
>> PX-10, using all original equipment (Simplex transmission, Mafac brakes,
>> Campy hubs, Brooks Swift, etc.) and took it out for its maiden voyage two
>> days ago.  On my way back from the 40-mile jaunt, I approached a slight curb
>> and jerked the front wheel up a bit to clear it.  My next memories are a
>> flash of me going over the handlebars and hitting the pavement, then being
>> surrounded by concerned runners (I was on the Mount Vernon bike and running
>> trail in Alexandria, Virginia) tut-tutting at my broken bike and bleeding
>> knees, shoulder, and face.  Fortunately, I was able to walk the bike about
>> three miles to the nearest bike shop and called my wife to come pick me up.
>> Looking at the bike and my injuries later that evening, I believe what
>> happened was this: the old Campy quick release skewer on my front wheel got
>> loose and, by jerking the bike up at the curb, I pulled the wheel out of the
>> left fork, causing the wheel to pop off, digging my now wheel-less fork into
>> the pavement, and flipping me for a 180.  I hit on my knees and hands
>> (fortunately protected by riding gloves), and my head (fortunately protected
>> by a now-gashed helmet).  I will eventually heal (assuming that my wrist is
>> not actually broken, but only banged up, and that the slight headache I've
>> had since will eventually dissipate), but the right tine of my fork is
>> permanently bent at about a 15 degree angle.  Otherwise, thank God, my bike
>> is almost unscathed (except for the Brooks, which was deeply scored and
>> which led me to conclude that I flipped the bike over completely during the
>> crash).
>> Although we often grouse about lawyer lips and helmets, this accident
>> wouldn't have happened on my Hunq or Bleriot, graced as they both are with
>> those annoying lips demanded by liability lawyers to prevent incidents like
>> this.  Also, if I hadn't been wearing my helmet, it's likely that I would
>> have had a full-blown concussion, not to mention a deep road rash on my head
>> to match the relatively light stuff on my face.
>> Lesson learned.
>> In the meantime, does anyone out there have a spare white fork for a 56cm
>> PX-10?
>> Kevin
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Re: [RBW] Re: Very clever video

[Scott Henry]

Ron,
We are certainly the minority here.
I liked the video, thought it was funny.Some work went into it and
the clip editing was well done.Look up "the Farting Preacher" on
YouTube, even more hilarious.

Here I will take more heat off of you.  One, my 16 y/o son just bought
his first gun over the weekend.   A Mossberg Tactical 22, yes, its a
scary looking semi-auto black gun.   He's looking forward to heading
to the range and not having to borrow one of mine. Two, I would
say that about 75% of the times I ride, I have a pistol in my front
bag.
Scott



On Fri, Apr 15, 2016 at 9:54 AM, Ron Mc  wrote:
> no one wants to or certainly expects to sway anybody - just wants to be
> heard.
> In this venue, I consider my opinion to be minority, which I think makes it
> even more important to be voiced.
>
> On Friday, April 15, 2016 at 8:35:13 AM UTC-5, masmojo wrote:
>>
>> I think we all hope to sway people to our point of view and end the
>> conflict or disagreement by what we seee as rational means, but rarely does
>> it happen; people are too invested in their own points of view & initially
>> at least their mind won't be swayed. It takes time for an idea to be
>> absorbed into the pyschy and even then sometimes a radical life changing
>> event for people to realize that maybe they were wrong.
>> Unfortunately,  it takes a very powerful prophet or public speaker to
>> eloquently alter the way we think about things and unfortunately most of us
>> don't have that skill.  So try as we might things just digress and this
>> thread is a fine example. ;-)
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Re: [RBW] Re: Curious Brooks damage

[Scott Henry]

Seeing that last photo
Ever turn the bike upside down, resting on the bars and saddle?
Rub points for storage or vehicle transport?
Or wear something with a crotch zipper?

That looks like mechanical wear to me...
Scott

On Wed, Mar 9, 2016 at 11:22 AM, Mark Reimer  wrote:

> One more photo...
>
>
> 
>
>
> On Wednesday, March 9, 2016 at 10:21:31 AM UTC-6, Mark Reimer wrote:
>>
>> Yikes!
>>
>> Nope, never been soaked or anything like that. I'll take your
>> recommendation of inspecting the nose piece. This is how my saddle has
>> looked since I got it - the nose shape I mean. It was slowly getting
>> lighter at that spot, but only very recently did the grain change. That's
>> what got me thinking hey this isn't just a wear pattern, this is actually
>> damaged.
>>
>> On Wednesday, March 9, 2016 at 10:18:26 AM UTC-6, Ron Mc wrote:
>>>
>>> it really looks like it's about to tear through there - any chance it's
>>> been soaked through and ridden wet?
>>> I bought my first select last year, and I don't think I'll ever buy
>>> anything different.  It's the only Brooks that I've been totally happy with
>>> the rate that it's stretching - i.e, negligible.
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Re: [RBW] That dirty Hoss ...

[Scott Henry]

Here they are from the original manufacturer
https://www.frostriver.com/shop/bike-bags/gunflint-trail-seat-bag/


and the rest of the offerings:
https://www.frostriver.com/product-category/bike-bags/


Scott


On Fri, Mar 4, 2016 at 1:16 PM, Lee Legrand  wrote:
> Wish they made those bags again.  I do not know why Riv stopped selling
> them.
>
> On Fri, Mar 4, 2016 at 1:12 PM, Patrick Moore  wrote:
>>
>> The Hoss arrived in yesterday's mail, and here it is. Thanks, Joe.
>>
>> It's not as dirty as appeared in the original photos and I think I'll
>> leave well enough alone.
>>
>> The Hoss is strapped to a Nitto QR support. The red cylindrical bag is a
>> Banzer custom meant for the bar, but I discovered t'other day that it takes
>> up all the very little room on the M-bar, so that I had to remove it in
>> order to install a light.
>>
>> Situated where it is, strapped to the Flite rails behind the Nitto
>> suppport, I can reach the zipper without removing the Hoss.
>>
>>
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>>
>> It is we who change; He remains the same. Eckhart
>>
>> Kinei hos eromenon. (It moves [all things] as the beloved.) Aristotle
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Re: [RBW] Reverse brake levers - pros, cons?

[Scott Henry]

An option would be to run cross levers backwards in the reverse lever
position, then the ends would still be open for barcon use.
Scott

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> What's your experience?
>
> Thinking if I ever try an upright bar, would these be better than strapping
> on mountain levers, just for the cleaner look.
>
> But I like bar ends. Not sure if bar ends can be used with these levers.
>
> Also wondering if the lever squeeze is easy at the extreme end of the handle
> bar, since the lever joins the pod there.
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Re: [RBW] No bike parking lockable signs? What's going on these days???

[Scott Henry]

Wow, once I took the time to figure out what "Cis-gender" was
all I can say is wow.

As for acting like you belong and bypassing rules, Justin is right,
act like you belong and all is good.I do it all the time via my
other hobby of photography.Hold a nice camera, stick a large lens
on it, sling a bag over your shoulder and walk right in.I do it
all the time at college sporting events.   My personal rule is arrive
early and be visible.   Once the security guys see you, they will
assume that you are supposed to be there.

Back to bike related, roll it on in but stay out of other people's
way.   Once the store staff see you a few times, it won't be an issue.
  Just don't make it an issue by bringing in a dirty bike, covered in
snow and ice messing up their floors

Cheers,
Scott

On Wed, Feb 24, 2016 at 9:10 AM, Justin August  wrote:
> Now? Maybe.
> I also happen to check all the boxes of privilege:
> White.
> Male.
> Cis-gender.
> Culturally bland in dress.
>
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Re: [RBW] No free electronic version of RR #44?

[Scott Henry]

Not from what I've heard yet.   Gotta make the dollars I guess.
Scott

On Fri, Feb 5, 2016 at 2:32 AM, eliu01  wrote:

> At http://www.rivbike.com/product-p/rr.htm and, I think, in older posts
> here Grant said that starting with RR #42 that future issues would be
> available for free as a PDF.  Anyone know if the same will apply to RR #44?
>
> Thanks!
>
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Re: [RBW] WTB: 700c wheelset, 126mm rear (maybe130)

[Scott Henry]

http://www.velomine.com/index.php?main_page=product_info=86_235_243_id=3135

These are freewheel, but an amazing deal.

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> Drew.  Where are you located?  I may have something if you're close by.
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Re: [RBW] Organic Cotton Boxer Briefs for riding recommendations?

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Wow, myself being very non-metro only wears multi-pack Fruit of the Loom
boxer briefs.   No way my brain would let me spend more than $15 for an 8
pack.

Some of you guys have some fancy nether regions.
On Jan 19, 2016 12:18 PM, "Ron Mc"  wrote:

> my tushie only wants Icebreaker merino wool boxer briefs for bicycling,
> winter and s. Texas summer (we don't have other seasons)
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Re: [RBW] Removing powder coat from canti brake studs

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If it turned out looking that good, and at $150.00.
Whats the shop info?  Its always good to have options for the future.
Scott

On Thu, Jan 14, 2016 at 3:15 PM, Tim Gavin 
wrote:

> I recently had the frame and fork of my '88 Schwinn KOM blasted and powder
> coated.  I went with a clear powder with a little sparkle in it, and it
> looks fantastic.  I'll post pictures once I take some.
>
> The blast and powder was less than $150 total (hooray!) but the shop
> didn't mask the brake posts on the fork or frame (boo!).  The cantilever
> (and U-brake) calipers don't fit over the now-thicker posts.  This shop is
> regarded well for bicycle jobs, so perhaps they assigned it to a new guy
> that day.
>
> What's the best method to remove the powder coat from these spots?
>
>- Sandpaper?  Start with very coarse grit and work finer?
>- Wire brush?  I think I have one for my Dremel tool
>- Chem stripper?  I could brush it on precisely with a paintbrush
>- Razor blade?  (whittling method) May be the easiest way to start
>
> Regardless of the method, I'll fit a washer around the base of the post to
> protect the rest of the frame from my efforts.
>
> Thanks,
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Re: [RBW] What is the *real* purpose of a rear brake?

[Scott Henry]

To keep the CPSC happy.

On Fri, Jan 15, 2016 at 12:44 AM, Patrick Moore  wrote:

> I just reinstalled the rear brake on the '03 Curt, because I wanted to use
> the 18 t (66") freewheel on the flip side of the rear hub. This is
> annoying, to me, because I have become so used to the ease of fender
> installation and wheel installation and removal that you have without a
> rear caliper messing things up (damned modern complications).
>
> I'm very used to having only a front brake (operated with a right-side
> lever, of course; what else would you use???) and only install a rear with
> a freewheel, since I've been told I shall *die* if I don't have a backup
> brake.
>
> So, is the principal use of a rear brake merely as a backup should your
> front one fail? Are there other uses? I guess if one is accustomed to
> taking corners at the fastest speed possible, a rear brake for small,
> precise speed adjustments without unduly loading the front tire, might make
> sense; but does this make sense in fact?
>
> My first bike had a freewheel and no brake except my right Ked shoved onto
> the front tire between the fork blades -- and I rode this thing on steep,
> winding downhills and in heavy urban traffic. (OK, I was 15.) So a good,
> solid front brake seems -- dare I say it? -- sufficient. Tell me why I am
> wrong.
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Re: [RBW] Re: The newest BLUG

[Scott Henry]

I would think that if times and money are as tight as is usually
offered in writing, I'd go ahead and keep the money.   Pay the staff
more if you will, or lower prices but don't just give it away to the
homeless.

Money can be spent on drugs and booze.
Things can be sold to buy drugs and booze.
They are homeless for a reason and I choose to not reward those
reasons.   Though I'd gladly chip in to buy them some one-way bus
tickets out of town.   It really cold here in Ohio and that's probably
the most humane thing to do.





On Wed, Jan 13, 2016 at 2:58 PM, Philip Williamson
 wrote:
> I think "give directly." The only trouble I see is that the people most in
> need might be the ones who keep most out of sight. Maybe give one person two
> coats, and ask them to pass one on to someone they know? If they don't,
> that's fine, but I think helping someone help someone else might make them
> feel good. It would me.
>
> I just try to treat people with respect, and I don't expect them to "turn
> their lives around," kick their addictions, or engage with the system.
>
> Philip
> www.biketinker.com
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>
> On Wednesday, January 13, 2016 at 7:56:36 AM UTC-8, Patrick Moore wrote:
>>
>> We (RIV) have a charity fund every year, doled out whether we’re doing OK
>> or not.
>>
>> It's admirable that they give when they can, not only when it's easy.
>>
>> The question whether to give directly or through a "qualified"
>> intermediary is being debated here in Albuquerque about panhandlers who beg
>> at traffic intersections. I am happy to give a bit of cash to these people,
>> preferring to be a sucker instead of a cynic. The city though has started a
>> law to ban such panhandling (either still being debated or, if on the books,
>> ignored) and a program to accept such donations in a fund for the beggars.
>> But one wants to give to a person, not a bureaucracy.
>>
>> But I understand the dilemma. Years ago I gave $20 to such a person with a
>> sign saying "Stranded, looking for work," and asked my boss to give the man
>> work. Boss tracked him down to a motel, offered him work, but the man was
>> too comfortable with the results of his panhandling and closed the door on
>> boss.
>>
>> My own worry is less the crazy and unstable as such, as it is the
>> alcoholic or drug addict: $10 or a $100 sweater might just go to something
>> that will make their situation worse, not better. If I could be sure that
>> the recipient would use the gift for food or warmth, I'd give much more
>> readily.
>>
>> But, beyond all the practical questions (which obviously determine the
>> particulars of giving), there is compassion, the principal Buddhist virtue
>> and one wonderfully illustrated in the Islamic hadith of the prostitute whom
>> God forgave because she took pity on a thirsty dog and gave it a drink; or
>> the wonderful lines (paraphrased) from the story of the excommunicated
>> Manfred in the Purgatorio: "The Divine Mercy has arms so wide/It takes to
>> Itself everything that turns to it." In this respect, giving benefits the
>> giver as much as the recipient.
>>
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Re: [RBW] OT: questions about multiple computer screens

[Scott Henry]

I have been using dual monitors for maybe 5 years or so.  Both at work
and at home.
Work is a laptop with an extra monitor.   Home is a desktop with two
screens.
A 17" monitor is pretty small in today's world though.

Don't limit yourself to monitors either.   I use a 24" monitor and a
32" TV.   Stop in to walmart and look around, often times (like this
time of year - right before the superbowl)  a whole TV is cheaper than
a dedicated monitor.



On Sun, Jan 10, 2016 at 5:46 PM, Patrick Moore  wrote:
> I probably should have answered this question long ago, but tell me, you who
> work a lot on computers, particularly those of you who write: are you more
> productive with 2 or even 3 screens than with 1? I assume a situation where
> you refer to multiple open documents.
>
> #2: if yes, would the advantage in your case justify the cost of 2 new
> screens and a new (larger) desk? (I expect to spend at least 2-3K on a good
> desk -- my present armoire desk can't accommodate more than 1 screen.)
>
> #3: Again, if yes: what brands and models would you recommend for decent but
> not necessarily top level 17" screens? This is for fancy word processing,
> not graphics.
>
> Thanks.
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Re: [RBW] PSA: Eroica California early registration

[Scott Henry]

Campy does offer some silver groups, not all of them, but the lower
lines (think veloce, athena...)   The rest of the spec on that bike is
just standard DiaCompe fair.  (Think Riv Silver)

That specific eroica bike is just a veloce drivetrain with downtube
friction shifters.   At a crazy price.





On Thu, Dec 31, 2015 at 7:58 AM, islaysteve  wrote:
> Just curious about that Bianchi in the link.  Does Campy still offer those 
> silver components?  Special deal for Bianchi?  I see that they are 20 speed.  
> The bike looks pretty nice.
> Steve
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Re: [RBW] PSA: Eroica California early registration

[Scott Henry]

And by all means, if you can get past all the rules, head over to the
Classic Rendevous list for more info and pictures and discussion.
The ride director posts there frequently.

 
https://groups.google.com/forum/?hl=en?hl%3Den#!forum/classic-rendezvous-lightweight-vintage-bicycles

On Thu, Dec 31, 2015 at 1:09 PM, Patrick Moore <bertin...@gmail.com> wrote:
> $3,500? I dunno -- wouldn't a similarly equipped Roadeo cost much the same?
>
> It looks rather nice, to me, though I dislike non-aero brake levers.
>
> Anyway, will any listers who participate please post photos?
>
> On Thu, Dec 31, 2015 at 7:20 AM, Scott Henry <ske...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Campy does offer some silver groups, not all of them, but the lower
>> lines (think veloce, athena...)   The rest of the spec on that bike is
>> just standard DiaCompe fair.  (Think Riv Silver)
>>
>> That specific eroica bike is just a veloce drivetrain with downtube
>> friction shifters.   At a crazy price.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Dec 31, 2015 at 7:58 AM, islaysteve <alkire...@verizon.net> wrote:
>> > Just curious about that Bianchi in the link.  Does Campy still offer
>> > those silver components?  Special deal for Bianchi?  I see that they are 20
>> > speed.  The bike looks pretty nice.
>> > Steve
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Re: [RBW] do these bars look too high?

[Scott Henry]

Whether or not you like them is more important than how they look.





But yes, they look about 4 to 6 inches too high for me.
Scott



On Wed, Dec 16, 2015 at 12:48 PM, Pete Porvaz  wrote:
> https://c2.staticflickr.com/6/5836/23051338044_2cd564a8af_n.jpg
>
> I'm really liking my newly mounted dirt drop stem. It's not a simple change
> but for me was so worth it. Next up something to wrap on the tops where I do
> most of my riding.
> Thought about a different bar but I just like the noodle bar. It does look
> waay up there!
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Re: [RBW] Re: Prayers for all effected by violence

[Scott Henry]

Really, try the mentioned helmet topics.   Which I cant stand wearing
by the way.
Or the merits of any bike with carbon?

Other than the CR, this list is the most singularly minded.

Love the bikes, ride the bikes.   Though I must be different most most
other cyclists in just about every single one of my beliefs.

On Fri, Dec 4, 2015 at 10:16 AM, Allingham II, Thomas J
<thomas.alling...@skadden.com> wrote:
> "The list isn't super welcoming with different opinions"?
>
> Not my experience.  Even on OT topics.
>
> -Original Message-
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> Sent: Friday, December 04, 2015 9:16 AM
> To: Riv List
> Subject: Re: [RBW] Re: Prayers for all effected by violence
>
> I hate to offer a counterpoint as I am well aware that the list isn't super 
> welcoming with differing opinions.
>
> California has some of the toughest gun control laws in the nation, what 
> change did you want?
> I would much rather request my legislator abolish "gun-free zones" so
> that I am legally allowed to protect myself and my family.And by
> expansion, other peoples families as well.
>
>
> On Fri, Dec 4, 2015 at 8:24 AM, tdusky <tdu...@comcast.net> wrote:
>> All the prayers can't pass gun control laws. Call or write your
>> legislator and demand change.
>>
>> On Thursday, December 3, 2015 at 9:54:00 AM UTC-5, Deacon Patrick wrote:
>>>
>>> I often pray the rosary as I ride, and especially now for all
>>> effected by violence. Paris, Colorado Springs, Redlands/San
>>> Bernardino. May all hearts turn to peace beyond all understanding.
>>>
>>> With abandon,
>>> Patrick
>>>
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>>> www.OurHolyConception.org
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Re: [RBW] Re: Prayers for all effected by violence

[Scott Henry]

I hate to offer a counterpoint as I am well aware that the list isn't
super welcoming with differing opinions.

California has some of the toughest gun control laws in the nation,
what change did you want?
I would much rather request my legislator abolish "gun-free zones" so
that I am legally allowed to protect myself and my family.And by
expansion, other peoples families as well.


On Fri, Dec 4, 2015 at 8:24 AM, tdusky  wrote:
> All the prayers can't pass gun control laws. Call or write your legislator
> and demand change.
>
> On Thursday, December 3, 2015 at 9:54:00 AM UTC-5, Deacon Patrick wrote:
>>
>> I often pray the rosary as I ride, and especially now for all effected by
>> violence. Paris, Colorado Springs, Redlands/San Bernardino. May all hearts
>> turn to peace beyond all understanding.
>>
>> With abandon,
>> Patrick
>>
>> www.MindYourHeadCoop.org
>> www.OurHolyConception.org
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Re: [RBW] Re: Smart Guys: Bicycle Helmets Reduce Injuries

[Scott Henry]

Lets remember that we are all adults here.   We all should be able to
make our own choices and I would hope that we don't have to stoop to
name calling.

Wear what you wear.   Please don't preach.
Cheers,
Scott

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> conspiracy theories?  seriously?  this simply about smart choice v. dumb
> choice.
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Re: [RBW] Crankset Advice

[Scott Henry]

110 BCD might be hard to find for triplizers, but any shop or online
merchant can get you 110 rings down to 34 teeth.
Origin8 are usually the cheapest ones.  but there are many many out there.
Vuelta has rings on sale right now starting at $19.   You can get them
cheaper if you look, but sometimes its easier to just spend the extra
$5 and be done with it.

http://www.vueltausa.com/components/chainrings/se-chain-ring-110mm-34-60t-972.html

Scott

On Tue, Nov 10, 2015 at 11:30 AM, Ron Mc  wrote:
> 110 bcd are not always easy to find, so having David as a source in addition
> to Rivendell (often out of stock) is a good thing.
>
>
> On Tuesday, November 10, 2015 at 10:20:37 AM UTC-6, David Banzer wrote:
>>
>> Self-promoting here, but I have a selection of Willow chainrings that
>> would fit that. I've set it up as 46/34 and 49/34.
>> It's a 110 bcd crank, so any 110 bcd chainrings would work.
>> David
>> treetop.bigcartel.com
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>> On Tuesday, November 10, 2015 at 10:11:55 AM UTC-6, Ryan Ray wrote:
>>>
>>> Can you point out some chainrings to use to turn that single into a wide
>>> double?
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Re: [RBW] Crankset Advice

[Scott Henry]

I might recommend not being so focused on buying a complete crankset.
 Just buy the cranks you like and then order the rings in whatever
size you prefer.I'm just building up a new bike and ended up going
with a guide/44/30 on an old SunTour triple crank I had around.

Once I gave up on trying to be fast, I have shifted all my big rings
down to either 44 or 46 teeth.I am fond of either Salsa or Surly
chainrings.   Both are cheap and last a lng time.

Also take a look at just about any cyclocross offering.
Cheers,
Scott

On Tue, Nov 10, 2015 at 9:05 AM, Johnny Alien  wrote:
> So I am planning a winter build of a new road bike and am getting a list of
> what parts I want to put on it. I am stuck a bit on what I want to do with
> the crankset.  I know I want to go compact double but that's about it. I
> don't mind spending some cash but don't want to spend silly money either.
> My ideal would have been the Sugino Alpina that VO used to sell in  48/34.
> That seems to be gone and there are very few Sugino 48/34 offering and most
> are lower quality.  So if I give up on finding 48/34 my options open up a
> but with the 50/34 group.  The Alpina is available but only the Alpina 2
> which I think is slightly lower quality.  There is also the IRD Defiant in
> that group that gets really good reviews but also has a very different look.
> That crankset is actually available in a wide 46/30 range which sounds very
> useful but not sure how that would work for mostly road riding conditions.
>
> Any advice on nice 48/34 square BB offerings?  What about the 50/34?  IRD,
> Suginoother nice offerings.  I like the WI cranks but they get too
> expensive in the long run.  Anyone use that wide range 46/30?  Thanks!!
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Re: [RBW] Re: Estimating My Wife's PBH

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I guess you could measure a pair of her pants that she often wears and
then visualize wear they land on her ankle and add 10 cm or so.
Obviously these would need to be normal pants and nothing too
stretchy.

Otherwise, if you are considering a Rivendell for her, I will assume
that she has a current bike that she rides, measure the saddle height
and bar reach on that and then give Walnut creek a call.   Let them
suggest.

Past that, since you can't measure her, I'll volunteer.
Cheers and good luck!
Scott





On Mon, Oct 19, 2015 at 11:28 AM, Kevin Lindsey  wrote:
> HI Shoji.
> I leaning towards a Sam Hilborne, but would also consider a Cheviot.
> Aesthetics are important to her, and I suspect she'd find the Hillborne to
> be a more attractive bike than the Cheviot.  On the other hand, the "step
> through" aspect of the latter has a lot going for it.
> Good point about measuring her current bike.  I'll give that a shot, then
> talk to the good folks at Riv.
> All the best,
> Kevin
>
>
> On Monday, October 19, 2015 at 9:58:54 AM UTC-4, Shoji Takahashi wrote:
>>
>> Hi Kevin,
>> Does she have a bike now that fits pretty well? If so, get her saddle
>> height, and you'll be all set.
>>
>> If you're going wtih Cheviot, I think 55cm is probably going to-be the
>> recommendation. Level top-tube bikes could be more difficult to guess a good
>> fit.
>>
>> Good luck!
>> Shoji
>>
>>
>> On Monday, October 19, 2015 at 9:21:39 AM UTC-4, Kevin Lindsey wrote:
>>>
>>> I'm thinking of surprising my wife with a Rivendell for Christmas, but
>>> can't ask her to measure her PBH for fear that she'll figure out why.  She's
>>> 5'6" and slightly long in the torso; is there a woman in the group with a
>>> similar build who whose PBH I can borrow?
>>> Many thanks,
>>> Kevin
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Re: [RBW] vertical/wall-mount bike hanging hook for fat tire bikes?

[Scott Henry]

Nothing fancy but these will always work:
http://www.parktool.com/product/storage-hook-extra-large-wood-thread-471xx?category=Storage


On Fri, Oct 2, 2015 at 3:32 PM, drew  wrote:
> so i bought some nice vertical hanging hooks like THIS for the garage. they
> seem solid and well made, the only thing is that getting a wheel with a tire
> over 2 inches in/out is nightmarish. anyone know of a sturdy hook that can
> accomodate a larger tire?
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Re: [RBW] Re: Joy of Wrenching

[Scott Henry]

Yes, that one exactly.
VAR made a copy back in the day, or this one is the copy, either way,
a great tool.  Its very handy and it works to prestress cables as well
as to adjust cable slack.

It does not however have the ratcheting holder so you have to keep you
hand on the tool.
Personally, I grew up using this tool, so I cant stand the Park
version with the ratchet.
Everyone is different though.
Scott



On Mon, Jun 15, 2015 at 6:01 PM, Jon Dukeman in the foothills of
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 Try a Hozan C-356.I've had mine for 30 years.I like it better than any
 other for easy use and getting into tight spots.Very popular in bike shops.


   http://www.amazon.com/ACTION-TOOL-BRAKE-HOZAN-C-356/dp/B001E6HR0U

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Re: [RBW] Re: Dude+60cm mixte

[Scott Henry]

Soma Mixte
http://www.somafab.com/archives/product/buena-vista


On Fri, May 15, 2015 at 8:54 AM, Garth garth...@gmail.com wrote:

 Am I missing something ?  What difference does it make whether you're
 tall, short, medium or otherwise ?   Experience is experience !

 I've looked at Riv's , both the Clementine and Cheviot and I'm tall .  I
 noticed though that both only come with 1 bottle mount , which to me is a
 small, yet not so small omission as why not add one under the down tube or
 on top of the top tube , it costs next to nothing to do this , I know what
 such things cost to a builder. But for a customer , I shouldn't be needing a
 bolt-on bottle mount on a new frame these days, especially quality ones  .
 Otherwise the frames look great .

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