Re: [RBW] Re: Cheviot Wool Sweater Preorder - Anyone In?

[Sean McAtee]

David,
That way that I understand this pre-order, is that I purchased and paid-for
a sweater.  A delivery charged was added to my order.  If I understand this
process correctly (and I may not!), Riv will contact those who have
pre-ordered when the sweaters arrive.  At that point (I believe / hope . .
. ) we will have the opportunity to add additional items to the order -
taking us beyond the total purchase needed to earn free shipping.

Hopefully list members who have done this before can chime-in and let me
(us) know whether I am correct in my understanding.

Sean

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> Sean,
>
> How did you do this?  The preorder page said specifically to not add
> anything else to the order, and instead to fill out a separate order for
> additional items (hence triggering 2 shipping charges, instead of zero).
> Did I miss something?
>
> Dave
>
> On Thursday, September 19, 2019 at 5:11:25 PM UTC-4, SeanMac wrote:
>>
>> I placed my pre-order this morning.  David - great tip about adding $30
>> to the order to get free shipping.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Sean
>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Cheviot Wool Sweater Preorder - Anyone In?

[Sean McAtee]

Thanks for all of your comments.  I placed my pre-order this morning.  I
will now eagerly await the next tidbit from RBW about this project.

David - great tip about adding $30 to the order to get free shipping.

Cheers,
Sean



On Tue, Sep 17, 2019 at 11:27 PM David Bivins  wrote:

> Excellent point, Mark. I pre-ordered mine the other day.
>
> I love pre-orders. It's like a gift I sent to myself from the past,
> because I've usually forgotten that I ordered it.
>
> On Tue, Sep 17, 2019 at 10:41 PM Mark Roland 
> wrote:
>
>> From the insider intel I received when reserving mine today, they have
>> over 200 pre-ordered, so looks like these will be definitely happening. My
>> once a year clothing indulgence (long underwear excepted). Remember, add
>> another 30 bucks to your order when they come in but before they go out and
>> get free shipping. Good time for the Riv sundries with the holidays
>> approaching!
>>
>> On Tuesday, September 17, 2019 at 2:52:28 PM UTC-4, Alex Wirth- Owner,
>> Yellow Haus Bicycles wrote:
>>>
>>> To be honest the description and color didn’t sound appealing to me.
>>> However, regret is a bitter pill to swallowso I ordered anyway.
>>> Looking forward to being pleasantly surprised and it’s always nice to have
>>> something on the horizon.
>>>
>>> Alex
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Re: [RBW] Helmets (again)

[Sean McAtee]

I read the article, found it interesting, and thought that members here
would find it interesting as well.  My sharing was more an FYI than a "this
is what you should be doing" post.  I apologize if my post made anyone
angry.

Sean

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> Exactly how is this thread not intended to start another helmet war?
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Re: [RBW] Re: Cheviot Wool Sweater Preorder - Anyone In?

[Sean McAtee]

Appreciate the comments.  Like Ginz, I wish that I had purchased the
previous Riv derby tweed sweaters.  I don't want to miss-out again.
However, I am a bit concerned about buying sight-unseen.  I do want to
support Riv, and I tend to trust Grant and his decisions.  I might as well
do the same with this.  If worse comes to worse, I'll have a warm-ish, but
unattractive sweater to wear outside on my bike, X-C  Skiing, raking
leaves, etc.

Anybody have any insight into the style of sweater this will be?  A simple
crew neck sweater in wool would certainly work for me.

Sean

On Mon, Sep 16, 2019 at 2:37 PM Ginz  wrote:

> STILL wish I had bought the derby tweed sweater when I had the chance.
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Re: [RBW] Re: Hand-Cranked Coffee Grinder Recommendation

[Sean McAtee]

Thanks again for all of your comments.  After doing way more research than
seems necessary, I [think] that I have decided to purchase a Hario Skerton
- Pro model.  This seems to offer the best combination of performance and
durability at a cost that seems fairly reasonable.  It is a bit larger than
the Porlex.  However, it is not so large that I cannot carry it with me on
a bicycle camping trip.  I also feel fairly confident that the glass on the
Hario grinder is thick enough that durability will not be a problem.

Sean

On Wed, Apr 24, 2019 at 12:19 AM ant ritchey 
wrote:

> Hario Skerton!
>
> Was $40 new, been going strong for 7 years now.
>
> On Sunday, April 21, 2019 at 8:05:47 AM UTC-7, SeanMac wrote:
>>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> I will be living in a hotel for three weeks this summer.  As a coffee
>> geek, the thought of being forced to drink hotel coffee during this time is
>> a bit frightening.  Rather than hopping in a car and driving to a coffee
>> shop, my plan is to put together an on-the-go coffee kit that can be used
>> for this hotel stay -- as well as future hotel visits and on-the-bike /
>> coffee outside adventures.
>>
>> I've pretty much decided that the AeroPress coffee kit is going to be my
>> go-to coffee maker.  As I will be staying alone, I am after quality of
>> coffee rather than volume.  In addition, this seems to provide reasonable
>> easy hotel room clean-up, which also seems pretty important.
>>
>> I did some searching on the coffee outside threads on this group and
>> found several coffee grinders that are often spoke of.  One of them, the
>> Porlex Mini, is currently available for about $65.
>> Porlex Mini
>> 
>>
>> Some searching also led to some positive comments for a much less
>> expensive JavaPresse grinder ($26)
>> JavaPresse
>> 
>>
>> I'm not opposed to spending money to obtain a quality product.  I am just
>> trying to decide if the extra cost of the Porlex grinder is worth it in
>> this particular situation.
>>
>> Any thoughts / comments / recommendations would be appreciated.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Sean
>> EA, NY
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Re: [RBW] Re: Hand-Cranked Coffee Grinder Recommendation

[Sean McAtee]

Thanks for your suggestions.  It seems like the Porlex mini gets a lot of
love, as does the Hario.  I'm going to ponder this a bit more before making
a final decision.  I guess I am a bit torn trying to decide how compact of
a unit to purchase.  The Porlex mini is small enough that I can easily
carry it on the bike.  I've also been reading a bit about the Hario "Mini
Slim Pro" grinder.  Several list members have mentioned the Hario Skerton,
but that model is larger than the other models that I have mentioned (so
not as easy to pack or carry on the bike) and it also has a glass bottom,
which may or may not be a concern.

I'm sure that any of the models that have been mentioned would meet my
needs.  The struggle, as always, is making the decision about which model
would "best" meet my needs.  I should write the model names on small pieces
of paper, place the papers inside a hat, close my eyes and pick the winner.

Sean

On Tue, Apr 23, 2019 at 11:14 AM Alex from the North 
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> Is that a mortar and pestle?
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Re: [RBW] Re: Wow the new grey Cheviots are gorgeous!!!

[Sean McAtee]

Thanks, Clayton.  That information is quite helpful.

Sean

On Mon, Sep 19, 2016 at 12:57 PM, Clayton.sf  wrote:

> Only been riding that particular compass tire since last week. So far they
> are great! Roll well amd grip well. Used them on paved amd fire roads.
> Have had compass tires in other sizes and am a fan. Used to go with the EL
> versions, but had one ride stopping sidewall cut once. Not really a valid
> sample size, but it made me switch to standard casing this go around. Tires
> are easy to mount. Wish they were all black.
> On my 60cm cheviot they are an excellent fit with plenty of breathing room
> with fenders. They measure 41mm on my dt tk540 rims with tunes but will
> likely stretch a little more.
> Hope this helps,
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Re: [RBW] Re: Cheviot (or Sam)

[Sean McAtee]

Howard -

Congratulations on your frame order!  I noticed earlier today that there
were only three grey Cheviots left.  I have a funny feeling that I am going
to follow your lead before the day is over.  A Cheviot is quickly becoming
the bike that I do not want to let get away.

I can't seem to recall past practice on "older" frames when a new set
arrives.  Is it likely that the remaining "old" Cheviots in stock will be
priced a bit lower as a web special?  I do like the green color of the
current frame.  However, it lacks the cream headtube of the newer models.

I will be moving the vast majority of the parts over from an old Trek 520 -
Albastache bars, Brooks B 17 saddle, Shimano derailleurs, etc.  However, I
will need to get a new set of wheels, as my current bikes all have 130 cm
rear hub spacing.  I'm probably going to buy an inexpensive set of wheels,
such as these currently being offered by Rivendell:  wheels
.  I will also likely add
a new crank - likely the Sugino XD2 wide/low.

I am looking at using a Cheviot for the same general purposes as you.
Congratulations again.

Sean



On Sun, Aug 14, 2016 at 5:10 PM, Howard Hatten  wrote:

> Hi Leah
> Not sure when I'll take delivery. Sounds like frames are on the way to
> RBW.  I'm going with a frame set. Not sure how the build will end up. I
> plan to make this my grocery getter & pub crawler. Winter project I suspect.
> Howard
> Livonia Mi
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Re: [RBW] Re: Cheviot (or Sam)

[Sean McAtee]

This thread has been so informative.  Thank you all for your comments and
stories.  Having lots of data points certainly is helpful in determining
what course of action to take - to buy or not to buy a Cheviot.

I've read through the comments a few times and the consensus seems to be
that those who have purchased a Cheviot (or a Betty or any other Riv
mixtie).  The biggest drawback seems to be the lack of a second (or third)
bottle mount.  I certainly see that as a concern if the bike would be used
regularly on longer rides.  After all, as Garth and others have noted, it
kind of sucks to spend $1,500 + on a frame only to add a cheesy bottle
holder if you want to carry two bottles.  However, given my intended usage,
as a bike that would mainly be ridden around town (farmers market, grocery
store, post office, etc) the number of bottles is not really a concern.  I
likely would also use this bike to ride on a few local bike paths (mostly
paved) where the lack of multiple bottle mounts would not be a huge concern.

My guess is that a Clem Smith Jr. would serve my intended purpose just as
well as a Cheviot.  However, after riding both (a much more extended ride
on the Clem) I had a much bigger smile after riding the Chev - it simply
seemed to have a bit more life to it than the Clem.  I don't know if this
was due to the tubing used on the bikes, the angles, the wheels or some
other factor - the simple reality was that I had more fun riding the
Cheviot than the Clem.

The more I ponder the Chev the less the "girl bike" thing seems like an
issue.  One other silly question that is kind of related to the girl bike
thing is the color choice.  I rode a green Cheviot at Rivendell.  I really
liked the color.  The new frames have cream headtubes, which the older
frames do not.  One more reason to go for a new frame.  Initially I thought
that the orange was the best color.  However, the more I think about it the
more attracted I am to the grey.  Perhaps this color will make the Chev a
bit more manly, as it will look more like a mountain bike.  The description
on the website says that the grey is "old Clem grey."  Anyone with a bike
in that color care to comment on how they like the color?  Pictures
perhaps?  Finally, I have an olive colored saddlesack and a green front bag
that I would use with this bike - is orange or grey likely to be my best
bet with those colors?

Thanks again for your comments.

Sean
EA, NY

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>
> 
>
> Hi Caroline. Welcome. Would be great to see a pic of your City Betty with
> the racy Albatross bars! Regarding the comparison of the Clementine to the
> Dutch city bikes, while they share the drooped top tube feature, the Dutch
> bikes have a significantly different geometry, practically heading into
> recumbent territory. As for the Clementine and loads, I carry 15-40 pounds,
> distributed between rear panniers and front basket, with regularity on my
> 52cm Clementine. It carries these burdens without complaint, and no flex
> issues for me at 170ish, though I may be a few pounds lighter this week due
> to water loss! (The Dutch bike pictured above is from Lovely Bicycle
> .)
> This message is a public service of the Knights of Clementine Society,
> dedicated to defending the honor of Clementines everywhere.
>
>
>
> On Saturday, August 13, 2016 at 1:54:53 AM UTC-4, Caroline Golum wrote:
>
>
>> As for the Clementine - just from experience working in different shops,
>> I find that traditional Dutch step-through style to be a little lacking for
>> longer rides and heavier loads, but if that's what you're trying to do it
>> seems perfect!
>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Patches

[Sean McAtee]

Fabric glue sounds like the perfect solution.  A quick search at Amazon 
provided quite a variety of options.  I assume that any "permanent" fabric glue 
should do the trick.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jan 18, 2016, at 8:14 AM, 'peech1...@yahoo.com' via RBW Owners Bunch 
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> I applied the caffeinated wheelmen patch to a canvas bag with fabric glue.  
> This has held tight, was easy to apply, and didn't disrupt the integrity of 
> the bag.  
> 
>> On Sunday, January 17, 2016 at 8:33:01 PM UTC-6, SeanMac wrote:
>> I need some help understanding bicycle patches.  I've never really been into 
>> them before, but with the recent threads regarding the Biketinkerers Union 
>> and the Association of Caffeinated Wheelmen (I bought one of each) and my 
>> recent backing of the Yehuda Moon Kickstarter (got a Yehuda Moon patch as 
>> part of the think you package) I find myself as a bit of a collector.
>> 
>> Please help the newbie!
>> 
>> As I placed my orders, I was thinking that I could attach these patches (and 
>> the others that I will certainly purchase in the future) to the side(s) of 
>> my green Ostrich handlebar bag.  Has anyone else done something similar with 
>> their patches?  If not, what do you do with them?
>> 
>> Thanks for sharing.
>> 
>> Sean
>> EA, NY
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Re: [RBW] Re: Rambouillet or San Marcos

[Sean McAtee]

Don, if you have a moment, I would love to learn more about the differences
in handling characteristics that you perceive between your Ram and your
Rodeo.

PS:  The Ram that Saturday Cycles has available sounds like an awesome
bike.  Unfortunately, it is more $ than I am willing to spend right now
(just ask my wife!).

Sean


On Tue, Oct 15, 2013 at 8:59 PM, Don Compton dpco...@gmail.com wrote:

 Wow, that's a nice build. No shortcuts. If I didn't have my Roadeo( a 59cm
 ), I would jump on that bike. I had a 60 cm Ram and it was slightly a
 better fit for me. But, for many reasons, I really like my Roadeo. In
 general, Rivs have a certain handling characteristic that fits me. I am a
 believer.
 Don


 On Tuesday, October 15, 2013 11:43:10 AM UTC-7, Saturday Mark wrote:

 Sean,
 Saturday Cycles has a very nice build Rambouillet in 60cm. Original full
 build cost was about 4kselling complete for 2400
   Frameset Riv Ramouillet  Brake Levers SRAM  Shifters Silver DT  Crank 
 Sugino
 compact2  Bottom Bracket SKF  Brakes Pauls Center  Front Derailleur IRD   
 Rear
 Derailleur Ultegra  Cassette Shimano HG80  Chain KMC 9x  Stem Nitto
 Handlebars Nitto Noodle  Tape green  Headset Ultegra  Wheels:
  .--.Front Hub SON  .--.Rear Hub Phil Wood  .--.Spokes
  .--.Rims, 36H Synergy  Saddle Brooks B17 CS Green  Seatpost Nitto
 Crystal  Tires Schwalbe Durano   Pedals
  Tubes
  Front Rack Nitto Marks  Cage
  Lamp  Edeluxe  Decalleur
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 On Monday, October 14, 2013 5:00:12 PM UTC-6, SeanMac wrote:

 Again, I am very grateful for all of your comments and suggestions.
 Temptation (as in the 58 cm blue Rambouillet frame now available on ebay -
 the one that I hear whispering my name) is a terrible thing.  The consensus
 seems to be that I would be better off on a 60 cm bike (or a 59, I assume,
 on a AHH).

 Just for the sake of asking, what would I notice if I decided to go
 after the 58 cm frame now on ebay.  How would being on a frame that is a
 bit too small affect the way that I feel on the bike.  Likewise, what
 improvement in feel would I gain by moving up to the 60 (or 59 AHH)?

 Sean


 On Mon, Oct 14, 2013 at 5:09 PM, iamkeith keith...@gmail.com wrote:

 No opinion on the San Marcos, but some insight on the Ram - though it
 seems others have already confirmed this:  60 cm seems just right for you.



 I am between 6'-1 and 6'-2, but have a similar (87cm) PBH to you,
 with a long torso.   The stand-over with the stock 28mm rolly polly/ruffy
 tuffy tires is just perfect for me - basically touches flesh when flat
 footed but  no fear of banging into it whatsoever, in any kind of riding
 I'd ever do on this type of bike.  And you might remember from the 
 original
 Riv flyer/catalog that they sized these with shorter than normal top 
 tubes,
 specifically to encourage people to buy the larger of two workable sizes.
 On that note, I do wish mind had a longer top tube to work with my odd
 proportions, but it's still the most comfortable and smoothest riding bike
 I've ever had (including two other rivs), and wouldn't sell it for
 anything.  I had some big bags on mine, before I found my all rounder,
 and used it more heavily loaded than it was intended for too, with no
 complaints.

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Re: [RBW] Re: Rambouillet or San Marcos

[Sean McAtee]

Again, I am very grateful for all of your comments and suggestions.
Temptation (as in the 58 cm blue Rambouillet frame now available on ebay -
the one that I hear whispering my name) is a terrible thing.  The consensus
seems to be that I would be better off on a 60 cm bike (or a 59, I assume,
on a AHH).

Just for the sake of asking, what would I notice if I decided to go after
the 58 cm frame now on ebay.  How would being on a frame that is a bit too
small affect the way that I feel on the bike.  Likewise, what improvement
in feel would I gain by moving up to the 60 (or 59 AHH)?

Sean


On Mon, Oct 14, 2013 at 5:09 PM, iamkeith keithhar...@gmail.com wrote:

 No opinion on the San Marcos, but some insight on the Ram - though it
 seems others have already confirmed this:  60 cm seems just right for you.



 I am between 6'-1 and 6'-2, but have a similar (87cm) PBH to you, with
 a long torso.   The stand-over with the stock 28mm rolly polly/ruffy tuffy
 tires is just perfect for me - basically touches flesh when flat footed
 but  no fear of banging into it whatsoever, in any kind of riding I'd ever
 do on this type of bike.  And you might remember from the original Riv
 flyer/catalog that they sized these with shorter than normal top tubes,
 specifically to encourage people to buy the larger of two workable sizes.
 On that note, I do wish mind had a longer top tube to work with my odd
 proportions, but it's still the most comfortable and smoothest riding bike
 I've ever had (including two other rivs), and wouldn't sell it for
 anything.  I had some big bags on mine, before I found my all rounder,
 and used it more heavily loaded than it was intended for too, with no
 complaints.

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Re: [RBW] Rambouillet or San Marcos

[Sean McAtee]

Thanks for all of your responses.  I must admit, I'm not terribly shocked
that the Rambo is considered the way for me to go.

Bo, I'm really intrigued by all that you said.  What made you sell the AHH
in favor of a Rambo?  I'm curious because another option that I have
considered is saving up my cash to purchase a new or used AHH.

Also, Bo, as far as your 56 Rambo, I wish I could help, but it is too small
for me.  Whenever I measure my PBH I end up somewhere between 86 and 87
(I'm about 5 foot 11).  Based on those measurements I would be best fit on
at least a 58 Rambo - perhaps even a 60.

By the way, if anyone has a Rambo that has a PBH similar to mine, I would
be curious about your recommendation for size -- would I fit best on a 58
or a 60?

Sean


On Sun, Oct 13, 2013 at 4:04 PM, bo richardson borus...@gmail.com wrote:

 having two Rambouillets at present and anAtlantis  and having
 had an AHH I sold in favor of the Rambouillet, I come down hard on the
 side of rhe Rambouillet.

  My brother has a Rambouillet which he bought before i bought mine.
 I bought mine on the basis of having ridden his. No regrets

 Self interest notice
 I am only keeping one Rambouillet. Should you be interested in a
 green 56 Rambouillet with fresh new top quality parts we might have a
 confluence of interet.

 thanks

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Re: [RBW] Rambouillet or San Marcos

[Sean McAtee]

I tend to agree, Eric.  Still not sure if a 58 Rambo is the right size for
me.  When I got fit for my Bob Brown custom, by a local guy using the
Serotta system, I ended up with a bike that measures 56.2 to the center of
the seat tube at a top tube length of 54.  This bike is great for rides up
to about two hours.  Beyond that time I end up with a sore back and numb
hands.  Therefore, I am looking for a bike that will be more useful /
comfortable on longer rides.  I've lusted after a Rivendell for years, but
never had the cash to buy one.  Now that cash is still a bit of a struggle,
but I feel like I am in a position to pull the trigger if I get the right
deal.  Since Buffalo, NY is a long way from Riv's world headquarters, I
have no real opportunity to get sized by someone at Riv.  Thus, I waver on
what size would be best for me.


Sean


On Sun, Oct 13, 2013 at 4:34 PM, Eric Daume ericda...@gmail.com wrote:

 At your size, I think all the San Marcos frames are double top tubers.
 That makes the decision for a Ram easy for me.


 On Sun, Oct 13, 2013 at 4:29 PM, Sean McAtee seanm...@gmail.com wrote:

 Thanks for all of your responses.  I must admit, I'm not terribly shocked
 that the Rambo is considered the way for me to go.

 Bo, I'm really intrigued by all that you said.  What made you sell the
 AHH in favor of a Rambo?  I'm curious because another option that I have
 considered is saving up my cash to purchase a new or used AHH.

 Also, Bo, as far as your 56 Rambo, I wish I could help, but it is too
 small for me.  Whenever I measure my PBH I end up somewhere between 86 and
 87 (I'm about 5 foot 11).  Based on those measurements I would be best fit
 on at least a 58 Rambo - perhaps even a 60.

 By the way, if anyone has a Rambo that has a PBH similar to mine, I would
 be curious about your recommendation for size -- would I fit best on a 58
 or a 60?

 Sean


 On Sun, Oct 13, 2013 at 4:04 PM, bo richardson borus...@gmail.comwrote:

  having two Rambouillets at present and anAtlantis  and having
 had an AHH I sold in favor of the Rambouillet, I come down hard on the
 side of rhe Rambouillet.

  My brother has a Rambouillet which he bought before i bought mine.
 I bought mine on the basis of having ridden his. No regrets

 Self interest notice
 I am only keeping one Rambouillet. Should you be interested in a
 green 56 Rambouillet with fresh new top quality parts we might have a
 confluence of interet.

 thanks

 Bo Richardson
 Bellingham Wa

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Re: [RBW] Rambouillet or San Marcos

[Sean McAtee]

I've had my eye on that since it was listed.  It has already cost me
several hours of research on the internet!

Sean


On Sun, Oct 13, 2013 at 4:38 PM, cyclotourist cyclotour...@gmail.comwrote:

 Here's a 58cm looking for a new home: http://www.ebay.com/itm/331040514123

 On 10/13/13, Eric Daume ericda...@gmail.com wrote:
  At your size, I think all the San Marcos frames are double top tubers.
 That
  makes the decision for a Ram easy for me.
 
 
  On Sun, Oct 13, 2013 at 4:29 PM, Sean McAtee seanm...@gmail.com wrote:
 
  Thanks for all of your responses.  I must admit, I'm not terribly
 shocked
  that the Rambo is considered the way for me to go.
 
  Bo, I'm really intrigued by all that you said.  What made you sell the
  AHH
  in favor of a Rambo?  I'm curious because another option that I have
  considered is saving up my cash to purchase a new or used AHH.
 
  Also, Bo, as far as your 56 Rambo, I wish I could help, but it is too
  small for me.  Whenever I measure my PBH I end up somewhere between 86
  and
  87 (I'm about 5 foot 11).  Based on those measurements I would be best
  fit
  on at least a 58 Rambo - perhaps even a 60.
 
  By the way, if anyone has a Rambo that has a PBH similar to mine, I
 would
  be curious about your recommendation for size -- would I fit best on a
 58
  or a 60?
 
  Sean
 
 
  On Sun, Oct 13, 2013 at 4:04 PM, bo richardson borus...@gmail.com
  wrote:
 
  having two Rambouillets at present and anAtlantis  and having
  had an AHH I sold in favor of the Rambouillet, I come down hard on the
  side of rhe Rambouillet.
 
   My brother has a Rambouillet which he bought before i bought mine.
  I bought mine on the basis of having ridden his. No regrets
 
  Self interest notice
  I am only keeping one Rambouillet. Should you be interested in a
  green 56 Rambouillet with fresh new top quality parts we might have a
  confluence of interet.
 
  thanks
 
  Bo Richardson
  Bellingham Wa
 
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Re: [RBW] Rambouillet or San Marcos

[Sean McAtee]

I do appreciate all of the comments.  I don't anticipate riding much on
dirt - more long rides on the road.

I am looking for some help with sizing - especially sizing a Rambouillet.
Whenever I measure my PBH I end up somewhere between 86 and 87 (I'm about 5
foot 11).  I'm not sure whether I would do best  on a 58 Rambo or a 60.

Sean


On Sun, Oct 13, 2013 at 6:15 PM, cyclotourist cyclotour...@gmail.comwrote:

 Jack Browns, GB Cypres, or Challenge Eroica all do great on hard-pack
 dirt. None have slowed me down.

 On 10/13/13, Kieran J kjo...@gmail.com wrote:
  I'm on a tall Ram with the Jack Brown Greens, and the ride is fabulous. I
  use a small saddlebag, and sometimes add a Loafer bag on the Mark's
 Rack. I
 
  would recommend 700x30 or 32 (or 33.33) with the Ram, as long as you
  are not planning on fenders. With Berthoud fenders, I struggled to fit
 even
 
  a 28mm tire comfortably.
 
  Not sure what the fender clearance is for the San Marcos.
 
  KJ
 
 
 
  On Sunday, October 13, 2013 5:29:09 PM UTC-4, Dave Johnston wrote:
 
  I have a 56cm Rambouillet and a 57 Bleriot and the Ram languishes while
  the Bleriot gets ridden. I love the ride and handling that the 38mm
  Parimoto 650b tires gives the Bleriot. The Ruffy Tuffy 28mm tires on the
  Ram just feel harsh and no faster to me. Also almost all of my rides
  involves some dirt roads even if I have to go seek them out, which I
  wouldn't do on 28s.
 
  OTOH I would not want a second top tube, but my size San Marcos would be
  650b and single top tube. Have you considered a used Bleriot? The frames
  were originally like $750 so might be quite a bargain used.
 
  I'm not selling the ramboulliet thoygh as its such a lovely bike in near
  perfect condition. When I get some extra dough I'm gonna try some Grand
  Bois Cypress 700 x 32, to see if I can get some extra cush and speed.
 
 
 
  On Sunday, October 13, 2013 5:13:59 PM UTC-4, Big Paulie wrote:
 
  I'm going to break with the other posters, and go with the San Marcos.
 
  I'm 5'10'' with an 86.5 PBH, as measured by Grant. The 54 San Marcos
 fits
 
  me perfectly, with an 11cm stem.
 
  I've owned both the Rambouillet and the San Marcos, and I find the San
  Marcos to be a better handling bike, when ridden with no extras like
  fenders and baskets and bags. Dead solid neutral. The Rambouillet, for
  me,
  was a touch twitchy.
 
  Plus, the San Marcos is available pretty much on demand.
 
 
 
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Re: [RBW] Rambouillet or San Marcos

[Sean McAtee]

Steve, thanks for the link to the geometry chart.  Dan, I appreciate your
input also.  The way that I read the chart and Dan's comments, I am
probably best on a 60.  However, I don't know whether I am better off being
a bit big for a 58 or at the smallish end of a 60.  The 58 Rambo currently
available on ebay is certainly attractive.  I am really tempted to bid on
that one, but I hate to end up with a bike that is too small for me.


On Sun, Oct 13, 2013 at 6:56 PM, Dan McNamara djmcnam...@gmail.com wrote:

 I have a PBH of 84.5 and can ride my 58 Ram comfortably. I am 5'9.

 The stem is 6cm and there is about 9cm of seatpost showing (side of tube
 to rail).

 Seems like a 60 Ram would be a better bet. Just double checked the
 brochure and the 60 was recommended for PBH 87-89 and heights of 5'9-6'1.

 The 58 is 5'7-5'11 and PBH 84-86.

 A call to Riv is probably your best bet.

 Dan

 On Oct 13, 2013, at 3:29 PM, Sean McAtee seanm...@gmail.com wrote:

 I do appreciate all of the comments.  I don't anticipate riding much on
 dirt - more long rides on the road.

 I am looking for some help with sizing - especially sizing a Rambouillet.
 Whenever I measure my PBH I end up somewhere between 86 and 87 (I'm about 5
 foot 11).  I'm not sure whether I would do best  on a 58 Rambo or a 60.

 Sean


 On Sun, Oct 13, 2013 at 6:15 PM, cyclotourist cyclotour...@gmail.comwrote:

 Jack Browns, GB Cypres, or Challenge Eroica all do great on hard-pack
 dirt. None have slowed me down.

 On 10/13/13, Kieran J kjo...@gmail.com wrote:
  I'm on a tall Ram with the Jack Brown Greens, and the ride is fabulous.
 I
  use a small saddlebag, and sometimes add a Loafer bag on the Mark's
 Rack. I
 
  would recommend 700x30 or 32 (or 33.33) with the Ram, as long as you
  are not planning on fenders. With Berthoud fenders, I struggled to fit
 even
 
  a 28mm tire comfortably.
 
  Not sure what the fender clearance is for the San Marcos.
 
  KJ
 
 
 
  On Sunday, October 13, 2013 5:29:09 PM UTC-4, Dave Johnston wrote:
 
  I have a 56cm Rambouillet and a 57 Bleriot and the Ram languishes while
  the Bleriot gets ridden. I love the ride and handling that the 38mm
  Parimoto 650b tires gives the Bleriot. The Ruffy Tuffy 28mm tires on
 the
  Ram just feel harsh and no faster to me. Also almost all of my rides
  involves some dirt roads even if I have to go seek them out, which I
  wouldn't do on 28s.
 
  OTOH I would not want a second top tube, but my size San Marcos would
 be
  650b and single top tube. Have you considered a used Bleriot? The
 frames
  were originally like $750 so might be quite a bargain used.
 
  I'm not selling the ramboulliet thoygh as its such a lovely bike in
 near
  perfect condition. When I get some extra dough I'm gonna try some Grand
  Bois Cypress 700 x 32, to see if I can get some extra cush and speed.
 
 
 
  On Sunday, October 13, 2013 5:13:59 PM UTC-4, Big Paulie wrote:
 
  I'm going to break with the other posters, and go with the San Marcos.
 
  I'm 5'10'' with an 86.5 PBH, as measured by Grant. The 54 San Marcos
 fits
 
  me perfectly, with an 11cm stem.
 
  I've owned both the Rambouillet and the San Marcos, and I find the San
  Marcos to be a better handling bike, when ridden with no extras like
  fenders and baskets and bags. Dead solid neutral. The Rambouillet, for
  me,
  was a touch twitchy.
 
  Plus, the San Marcos is available pretty much on demand.
 
 
 
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Re: [RBW] Rambouillet or San Marcos

[Sean McAtee]

I appreciate your $.02.  The bike that I normally ride has the bars a few
cm below the saddle.  This is probably one of the causes of the numbness
that I have been having in my hands on longer rides.  I was just looking at
the geometry charts.  My current bike has a top tube of 54 - the top tube
of the Ram is 3cm longer.  Of course, the angles are a bit different on the
bikes.

In the grand scheme of things, when I look at the charts, a few centimeters
does not seem like anything that cannot be adjusted by seats / seat posts
and stems.  The 58 Rambo has a standover height of 82.1 versus 79.2 of my
current bike.  This seems do-able


On Sun, Oct 13, 2013 at 7:28 PM, cyclotourist cyclotour...@gmail.comwrote:

 Sean, do you like bars at/above/below seat height? As long as it's
 below or at, the smaller size should be fine. Then at worst you'll
 have an extra 2cm of seat post and stem showing, along w/ a 2cm longer
 stem. Everything else would be pretty much the same. If the 58cm ends
 up being a bit too small, you would be able to re-sell it pretty
 easily, and maybe even find a 60cm to trade straight over for.

 My $.02

 On 10/13/13, Sean McAtee seanm...@gmail.com wrote:
  Steve, thanks for the link to the geometry chart.  Dan, I appreciate your
  input also.  The way that I read the chart and Dan's comments, I am
  probably best on a 60.  However, I don't know whether I am better off
 being
  a bit big for a 58 or at the smallish end of a 60.  The 58 Rambo
 currently
  available on ebay is certainly attractive.  I am really tempted to bid on
  that one, but I hate to end up with a bike that is too small for me.
 
 
  On Sun, Oct 13, 2013 at 6:56 PM, Dan McNamara djmcnam...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 
  I have a PBH of 84.5 and can ride my 58 Ram comfortably. I am 5'9.
 
  The stem is 6cm and there is about 9cm of seatpost showing (side of tube
  to rail).
 
  Seems like a 60 Ram would be a better bet. Just double checked the
  brochure and the 60 was recommended for PBH 87-89 and heights of
  5'9-6'1.
 
  The 58 is 5'7-5'11 and PBH 84-86.
 
  A call to Riv is probably your best bet.
 
  Dan
 
  On Oct 13, 2013, at 3:29 PM, Sean McAtee seanm...@gmail.com wrote:
 
  I do appreciate all of the comments.  I don't anticipate riding much on
  dirt - more long rides on the road.
 
  I am looking for some help with sizing - especially sizing a
 Rambouillet.
  Whenever I measure my PBH I end up somewhere between 86 and 87 (I'm
 about
  5
  foot 11).  I'm not sure whether I would do best  on a 58 Rambo or a 60.
 
  Sean
 
 
  On Sun, Oct 13, 2013 at 6:15 PM, cyclotourist
  cyclotour...@gmail.comwrote:
 
  Jack Browns, GB Cypres, or Challenge Eroica all do great on hard-pack
  dirt. None have slowed me down.
 
  On 10/13/13, Kieran J kjo...@gmail.com wrote:
   I'm on a tall Ram with the Jack Brown Greens, and the ride is
   fabulous.
  I
   use a small saddlebag, and sometimes add a Loafer bag on the Mark's
  Rack. I
  
   would recommend 700x30 or 32 (or 33.33) with the Ram, as long as
   you
   are not planning on fenders. With Berthoud fenders, I struggled to
 fit
  even
  
   a 28mm tire comfortably.
  
   Not sure what the fender clearance is for the San Marcos.
  
   KJ
  
  
  
   On Sunday, October 13, 2013 5:29:09 PM UTC-4, Dave Johnston wrote:
  
   I have a 56cm Rambouillet and a 57 Bleriot and the Ram languishes
   while
   the Bleriot gets ridden. I love the ride and handling that the 38mm
   Parimoto 650b tires gives the Bleriot. The Ruffy Tuffy 28mm tires on
  the
   Ram just feel harsh and no faster to me. Also almost all of my rides
   involves some dirt roads even if I have to go seek them out, which I
   wouldn't do on 28s.
  
   OTOH I would not want a second top tube, but my size San Marcos
 would
  be
   650b and single top tube. Have you considered a used Bleriot? The
  frames
   were originally like $750 so might be quite a bargain used.
  
   I'm not selling the ramboulliet thoygh as its such a lovely bike in
  near
   perfect condition. When I get some extra dough I'm gonna try some
   Grand
   Bois Cypress 700 x 32, to see if I can get some extra cush and
 speed.
  
  
  
   On Sunday, October 13, 2013 5:13:59 PM UTC-4, Big Paulie wrote:
  
   I'm going to break with the other posters, and go with the San
   Marcos.
  
   I'm 5'10'' with an 86.5 PBH, as measured by Grant. The 54 San
 Marcos
  fits
  
   me perfectly, with an 11cm stem.
  
   I've owned both the Rambouillet and the San Marcos, and I find the
   San
   Marcos to be a better handling bike, when ridden with no extras
   like
   fenders and baskets and bags. Dead solid neutral. The Rambouillet,
   for
   me,
   was a touch twitchy.
  
   Plus, the San Marcos is available pretty much on demand.
  
  
  
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Re: [RBW] Re: Rambouillet or San Marcos

[Sean McAtee]

I do agree with that.  My Bob Brown custom is a deep burgundy red with a
cream headtube.  It makes me smile whenever I look at it!


On Sun, Oct 13, 2013 at 9:09 PM, Michael john11.2...@gmail.com wrote:

 If I had to choose between the two:


 *Rambouillet...*

 *The thrill of a new bike may wear off, but a cream headtube lasts
 forever...*



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Re: [RBW] Re: Saluki

[Sean McAtee]

My pbh is about 88.  Riv recommended that I go with a 56 Sam.  Not sure about 
my size on a Homer and I can't seem to access Riv's sizing chart



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On Dec 5, 2012, at 9:27 AM, C.J. Filip c.j.fi...@hotmail.com wrote:

 Hi Sean,
 
 What's your PBH?  If you're in the taller overlap zone of the Homers
 and the larger Salukis (59cm-62cm), I may be able to contribute to
 your questions.
 
 I recently added a 60cm Saluki to compliment and potentially replace
 my 59cm Hilsen.  For now, I feel I'm at the point where I've
 identified a great size and ergonomic setup, nearly perfect, and now
 begin the process of splitting hairs.  The Saluki is able to run
 slightly wider (Hetre) tires and has cantis and feels a hair larger,
 but that's probably due to the puffier 42mm Hetres (my Homer is an
 early build and has the narrower tire clearance).
 
 Aesthetically, the bike looks to be of the same high quality.  My
 Homer was made at Waterford but the Saluki probably at Toyo.  The lugs
 appear to be mismatched, the top lug of the headtube appearing to be
 like the current Homers and the bottom lug of the headtube appearing
 to be like the older pointy lugs.  I like it.
 
 Here is an archive page on the Saluki:
 http://web.archive.org/web/20070225162042/http://www.rivbike.com/bikes/saluki
 
 On Dec 5, 5:35 am, SeanMac seanm...@gmail.com wrote:
 I have noticed several Salukis for sale recently on ebay.  I know that this
 bike was produced before the Bleriot, but I have had a somewhat difficult
 time finding information about it on the web.  I am hoping that a list
 member or three might be able to shed some light on this bike for me.
 
  I'm in the market for a bike for longer rides and perhaps some short
 touring - Erie Canal, C  O Trail, etc.  I've had my eyes on a Sam for some
 time, but have not yet pulled the trigger (might on the all-blue Sam - what
 a deal).  Would a Saluki be well-suited for this kind of riding or is it
 really designed as a country bike / credit card tourer / rambler / century
 ride bike?
 
 How would the Saluki compare to a Homer?
 
 I can't seem to find a chart that matches PBH to Saluki sizing.  Should I
 simply use the general chart on the Riv site, matching the 650b section to
 my height to choose the correct Saluki?
 
 Thanks,
 
 Sean
 
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