Re: [RBW] Re: Handlebar bags similar to Acorn waxed canvas?

[Tully Lanter]

Thanks, both, for the suggestions. That's the first I've heard of Frost
River in particular.

Patrick - that's great to know about waterproofing! I was eyeing a BagBoy
for my commute--if I ever commute again ;)--and that may seal the deal.

On Thu, Jul 30, 2020 at 11:13 AM 'Deacon Patrick' via RBW Owners Bunch <
rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com> wrote:

> Frost River: https://www.frostriver.com/shop/activity/cycling-bike-bags/
>
> Duluth Pack (bags and names may look familiar to previous Grant creations
> because they made them back in the day):
> https://www.duluthpack.com/collections/bike-bags
>
> Note, I find none of these as good and effective at hearty waterproof
> bagging as the current Rivendell offerings. That Scottish fabric is amazing
> stuff.
>
> With abandon,
> Patrick
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[RBW] Handlebar bags similar to Acorn waxed canvas?

[Tully Lanter]

I'm in need of a small, preferably waxed canvas handlebar bag like the one 

 
Acorn makes.

Alas, they're out for 6 weeks or so.

Who else makes something similar? That combination of material + size and 
shape has eluded me...

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Re: [RBW] Re: Single-speed country bike(?)

[Tully Lanter]

Likewise - I must have seen his post in that same AMA. Thanks for pasting
here!

On Thu, Jul 2, 2020 at 7:57 AM Ian Terry  wrote:

> Ah! I definitely saw the xbiking AMA. It's now making a lot of sense why I
> couldn't find it within the blog posts. Thanks for asking 'bout it!
>
> Ian Terry,
> Miami, FL
>
> On Thursday, July 2, 2020 at 10:29:44 AM UTC-4, Kevin Smith wrote:
>>
>> I actually asked Grant about this when he did an AMA on Reddit. Here was
>> his response:
>>
>> [image: Screen Shot 2020-07-01 at 9.49.04 PM.png]
>> Here's a link to the full discussion if anyone's interested:
>> https://www.reddit.com/r/xbiking/comments/ecxo6l/grant_here/
>>
>> Since it may be quite a while before this bike happens, I may just save
>> my pennies and buy a Crust Lightning Bolt fixed instead.
>>
>>
>> Kevin Smith
>> Somerville, MA
>>
>> On Wednesday, July 1, 2020 at 6:40:52 PM UTC-4, Ian Terry wrote:
>>>
>>> I was also wondering about this recently. I remember reading a mention
>>> of it somewhere along the way (Maybe in a GP blog post?), but I haven't
>>> been able to find it again. I'm definitely interested in learning more, as
>>> I have some single-speed aspirations myself. On my end, its looking like it
>>> might come down to waiting for the new RBW ss to come out, or going with a
>>> Black Mountain Cycles canti Monstercross when their next batch arrives in
>>> Novemberish.
>>>
>>> Ian Terry
>>> Miami, FL
>>>
>>> On Saturday, June 27, 2020 at 5:02:48 PM UTC-4, Tully Lanter wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I seem to recall a mention of a single-speed country bike in the works,
>>>> but can't for the life of me find the thread. It may have been a few months
>>>> ago.
>>>>
>>>> Anyhow, is that the case, or strictly fanciful? I'm generally out of
>>>> touch with RBW news these days...
>>>>
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[RBW] Single-speed country bike(?)

[Tully Lanter]

I seem to recall a mention of a single-speed country bike in the works, but 
can't for the life of me find the thread. It may have been a few months ago.

Anyhow, is that the case, or strictly fanciful? I'm generally out of touch 
with RBW news these days...

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[RBW] Re: Bosco / Clem riders: Do your knees hit the bars?

[Tully Lanter]

My experience on a 52cm Clem with Boscos was much the same: contact only at 
very slow speeds--like U-turn-on-a-sidewalk slow. It was never a practical 
problem for me, even as someone who strongly dislikes toe overlap. 
On Saturday, June 27, 2020 at 10:48:42 AM UTC-7 Mark Roland wrote:

> I have a 52cm El Clem, aka Clem L, with bullmoose Boscos. I also have 
> regular Boscos on my 26" Santana tandem. I use stem shifters on El Clem and 
> bar end shifters on the tandem. I haven't experienced any knee hits, even 
> when standing and sprinting for the line. (Okay, standing to power up an 
> incline).
>
> Sounds like you are still in the process of building the bike up. If 
> that's the case, it can be hard to estimate this kind of thing by just 
> turning the bars and noting how close they get. That's because the bars 
> rarely turn that much, except maybe at really slow speeds--that's the 
> reason toe overlap with the wheel is generally not an issue until you are 
> putting along.
>
> If they do hit, you have options. You could cut down the bars as necessary 
> to prevent the issue--this kind of makes sense on a 45cm, in terms of being 
> proportionate. Or you could go with an on the bar shifter, or stemmies. Or 
> you could switch to bars with less back sweep.
>
> On Saturday, June 27, 2020 at 11:53:45 AM UTC-4, BlackBomber wrote:
>>
>> I'm in the process of building up a Clem H with 55cm Boscos, and a 115mm 
>> reach "7" stem. The stem is a placeholder until my 120mm Tallux comes in, 
>> but that won't give much more room. Note that a 45cm complete would have 
>> come with the shorter 110mm stem. Anyway, it seems like the bars and my 
>> knees will be in conflict on some turns. Something I'm familiar with 
>> (owning a couple of pre-WWII American bikes). I also have bar end shifters, 
>> although I think it would be a problem with thumbies, also. The bars are 
>> raised with the grips resting about an inch higher than my seat, and maybe 
>> a 10-12 degree rotation back. I'm 5'4" with a 79cm PBH on a 45cm frame. It 
>> was a toss up between the 45 and 52, and I felt more comfortable with the 
>> idea of a 45 as 52 is just about where I feel comfortable on a road bike, 
>> and I wanted more standover. Plus my converted MTB build I'm replacing has 
>> the same top tube length as my Clem, and I feel great on that bike.
>>
>> So my question is, when properly fitted, do these bars interfere with 
>> knees in real world riding, or did I pick the wrong size frame?
>>
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[RBW] FS: Clem L 52 with dynamo lighting

[Tully Lanter]

This is now sold.

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Re: [RBW] RBW Seattle bike shops!

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I would absolutely second (third? fourth?) Free Range. Very cool shop in 
general, and there was a half-built Cheviot on the floor last time I 
visited. Owner's bike, if memory serves.

I've also heard great things about Aaron's Bike Repair down in White 
Center. Haven't personally been.

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Re: [RBW] Re: Rain Cape Recommendation

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Matt - do you find the Cleverhood packable?

The Vaude's flapping irritates me enough that I would consider something
bulkier and costlier *if* it still fits in a smaller pannier...

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[RBW] Rain Cape Recommendation

[Tully Lanter]

I picked up a Vaude Valdipino for about $40 shipped from western Europe 
(France, I believe). So far, so good. It does flap something awful above 
~15mph, but it has me completely sold on the poncho concept. The hood works 
nicely, too.

RBW has a large Grundens poncho on sale for $80 now, too. Haven't tried one but 
the waist tie should help with flapping. No hood on that one.

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[RBW] Re: FS: Clem L 52 with dynamo lighting

[Tully Lanter]

Thanks Johnny. Yeah, sticking with a complete sale rather than F/F/HS, 
since I wouldn't have anything to use most of the parts for.

By the way: I mentioned on Craigslist but should have specified here that I 
plan to keep the saddle, pedals, and bell. Also willing to knock $50 off 
and keep the fenders to use elsewhere.

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Re: [RBW] FS: Misc. Nitto, Sugino, White, Dia Compe, VO parts

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Just about cleaned out. A few items left:

2) Velo Orange Porteur bars, $20. Barely used.
6) Sugino chainrings (46, 52), $10 each.
7) Sugino bashguard (up to roughly 42t), $30. Barely used.

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[RBW] Re: Quick removal of full-coverage fenders

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Relevant: https://www.sks-germany.com/en/products/speedrocker/

Coming in January, and supposedly good for tires up to 42mm. Not the 
fullest coverage (or my aesthetic preference), but not bad!

On Monday, October 15, 2018 at 10:40:19 AM UTC-7, Tully Lanter wrote:
>
> My upcoming Clem will pull occasional MTB duty. Our trails tend to have 
> lots of sticks and vegetation, so I'll probably remove the fenders.
>
> Has anyone rigged up a way to attach fender brackets in some sort of 
> quick-release fashion? Perhaps hardware like this 
> <https://www.jegs.com/i/Quik-Latch/658/QL-25-SB/10002/-1?CAWELAID=230006180030683992=pla=44693592161=pla-226259915351=230006180039220943=c=nonbrand=Cj0KCQjw9ZDeBRD9ARIsAMbAmoaP-ViAcQVr2hDQo444xaKPothoWls2IWqPGBIzD9kpvTf3U4ptYF8aAgO8EALw_wcB>
>  has 
> potential, if the right sizes are available...
>
> (I'm aware of Speed-Ez and other truly QR fenders, but they lack both 
> width and overall coverage.)
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: Quick removal of full-coverage fenders

[Tully Lanter]

Takashi - brilliant! I'll have to take a stab at something like that.
Spaced out and forgot that I will have v-brakes which greatly simplify
things (as Joe pointed out)...but I'm all for clever solutions anyhow!

Reginald - sounds like a cool product. Time to peruse eBay...

Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE DROID

On Tue, Oct 16, 2018, 7:40 AM WETH  wrote:

> Takashi,
> That is awesome!  Did you create something similar on the front.
> The video and photos are quite helpful.
> With thanks,
> Erl
>
>
> On Tuesday, October 16, 2018 at 9:36:46 AM UTC-4, Takashi wrote:
>>
>> Forgot to add that I put SKS QR on rear dropout.
>>
>> Takashi
>>
>>
>> Takashi wrote:
>>>
>>> Here's what I have on my Hunq:
>>>
>>> I bought a piece of metal at local hardware store and filed off some bit.
>>> I attached it to the fender / kickstand mount on chainstays.
>>>
>>>
>>> I inserted a T-nut to fender, and a wing bolt to the T-nut. (Some
>>> creativity will be required if your fenders are not wood.)
>>>
>>>
>>> I bought an L-shaped piece of metal, filed off some bit, and attached it
>>> to the sliding clip (bridge hardware) of the fender.
>>>
>>>
>>> I inserted a long (50mm?) bolt into the hole of seatstay bridge
>>> (inserted upward from under the bridge), and put some nuts, washers, and a
>>> wingnut.
>>>
>>>
>>> ...And I can remove it without a tool!
>>>
>>> https://www.flickr.com/gp/77318553@N08/917NA3
>>> (Sorry about lousy movie)
>>>
>>> Takashi
>>>
>>>
>>> Tully Lanter wrote:
>>>>
>>>> My upcoming Clem will pull occasional MTB duty. Our trails tend to have
>>>> lots of sticks and vegetation, so I'll probably remove the fenders.
>>>>
>>>> Has anyone rigged up a way to attach fender brackets in some sort of
>>>> quick-release fashion? Perhaps hardware like this
>>>> <https://www.jegs.com/i/Quik-Latch/658/QL-25-SB/10002/-1?CAWELAID=230006180030683992=pla=44693592161=pla-226259915351=230006180039220943=c=nonbrand=Cj0KCQjw9ZDeBRD9ARIsAMbAmoaP-ViAcQVr2hDQo444xaKPothoWls2IWqPGBIzD9kpvTf3U4ptYF8aAgO8EALw_wcB>
>>>>  has
>>>> potential, if the right sizes are available...
>>>>
>>>> (I'm aware of Speed-Ez and other truly QR fenders, but they lack both
>>>> width and overall coverage.)
>>>>
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[RBW] Quick removal of full-coverage fenders

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My upcoming Clem will pull occasional MTB duty. Our trails tend to have 
lots of sticks and vegetation, so I'll probably remove the fenders.

Has anyone rigged up a way to attach fender brackets in some sort of 
quick-release fashion? Perhaps hardware like this 

 has 
potential, if the right sizes are available...

(I'm aware of Speed-Ez and other truly QR fenders, but they lack both width 
and overall coverage.)

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Re: [RBW] FS: Misc. Nitto, Sugino, White, Dia Compe, VO parts

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Should add that the chainrings and bashguard are all 130 BCD.

The Porteur bars are 23.8mm with a 25.4mm clamp.

On Sat, Oct 13, 2018, 9:26 AM Tully Lanter  wrote:

> Remaining:
>
> 1) Nitto Albastache bars, $40
> 2) Velo Orange Porteur bars, $20. Barely used.
> 6) Sugino chainrings (38, 42, 46, 52), $10 each.
> 7) Sugino bashguard (up to roughly 42t), $30. Barely used.
> 8) Nitto Crystal Fellow seatpost, $50. 27.2mm diameter. About 25cm to the
> clamp, 20cm to the setback portion.
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[RBW] FS: Misc. Nitto, Sugino, White, Dia Compe, VO parts

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Remaining:

1) Nitto Albastache bars, $40
2) Velo Orange Porteur bars, $20. Barely used.
6) Sugino chainrings (38, 42, 46, 52), $10 each.
7) Sugino bashguard (up to roughly 42t), $30. Barely used.
8) Nitto Crystal Fellow seatpost, $50. 27.2mm diameter. About 25cm to the 
clamp, 20cm to the setback portion.

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[RBW] Re: Frankendini

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Not entirely sure what I'm looking at...but I like it!

On Thursday, October 11, 2018 at 2:30:27 PM UTC-7, Joe Bernard wrote:
>
> Here's an update/finished build on my Sparkly Orange Roadini, which 
> answers the question, "What if you intentionally oversized a dropbar bike 
> for flatbars?" I think Will @ Riv will like it, he's into putting the 
> "wrong" parts on a bike. 
>
> I had picked up an old Bianchi Project 5 with a Softride suspension stem, 
> but the bars were too low on that bike. Then it dawned me that the stem 
> would work just dandy on my Leo, so here ya go!
>
> Riser bar, XTR 9-speed shifter someone here sold me, Suntour dt for the 
> front, NOS Dia-Compe levers, Ergon grips, old Sakae cranks and BB from an 
> RB-T, NOS Shimano RX100 fd (from France!), NOS Deore LX rd (Japan!), 
> Mavic/105 wheels, 11-34 XT cassette, Jack Browns, MKS Touring pedals, 
> Woody's Chop Chort fenders with huge gaps that are different front and 
> back..Grant won't even be able to look at those fender lines!
>
> It's a fun bike with almost no standover, but here's an amusing thing I 
> discovered: When I first come to a stop and throw a leg over to hop off, 
> the suspension is slightly compressed..instant standover clearance! Check 
> it out. 
>
> https://photos.app.goo.gl/Bba3J2TpJE8sEaBh9
>
> Joe Bernard
> Novato CA. 
>
>

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[RBW] FS: Misc. Nitto, Sugino, White, Dia Compe, VO parts

[Tully Lanter]

After cockpit experiments and a partial bike sale, my parts bin runneth 
over. I need these gone before I go looking for another frame to put them 
them on...

Everything is solid with normal signs of wear unless otherwise noted. 

1) Nitto Albastache bars, $40
2) Velo Orange Porteur bars, $20. Barely used.
3) Nitto Technomic 100m quill stem, $35.
4) Nitto Dirt Drop 80mm stem, $40. Lightly used.
5) White Industries DOS ENO 17t/19t freewheel, $50.
6) Sugino chainrings (38, 42, 46, 52), $10 each.
7) Sugino bashguard (up to roughly 42t), $30. Barely used.
8) Nitto Crystal Fellow seatpost, $50. 27.2mm diameter. About 25cm to the 
clamp, 20cm to the setback portion.
9) Dia Compe 980 cantilever brakes (the new ones), $40. Barely used.
10) Dia Compe non-aero levers, 2 pairs. One has slightly better hoods. 
Includes 3 olive ferrules, just one shy. $15 for both. Older.
11) Dia Compe inverse brake levers, $10. Older.
12) Suzue QR front track hub, $30. Older. (Still in an original Quickbeam 
wheel, but the rim is probably too worn to justify shipping the whole 
thing.)

Everything plus actual shipping from 98052. Probably ~$15 for the bars and 
down from there, less whatever I can combine.


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Re: [RBW] Re: WTB: 52 Clem L, possibly 55 Cheviot or canti-Sam

[Tully Lanter]

Andrew - they *had* one ;) It's in the works. Thanks for letting me know!

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> Analog cycles has a 52 L for a sweet deal. Call James, he’s a good dude.
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Re: [RBW] Re: Quickbeam seatpost diameter

[Tully Lanter]

Indeed I did. Off to a new home for a very cool build idea.

On Thu, Oct 11, 2018 at 11:58 AM Dave Grossman  wrote:

> Did you end up selling your QB?
>
> On Thursday, October 11, 2018 at 12:04:20 PM UTC-5, Tully Lanter wrote:
>>
>> Perfect. Thanks!
>>
>> Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE DROID
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>> On Thu, Oct 11, 2018, 10:02 AM Marty Gierke, Stewartstown PA <
>> martin...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> 27.2
>>>
>>> On Thursday, October 11, 2018 at 12:49:26 PM UTC-4, Tully Lanter wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Quick question: can anyone confirm the Quickbeam's seatpost diameter?
>>>> Trying to figure out what to do with a spare...
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Re: [RBW] Re: Quickbeam seatpost diameter

[Tully Lanter]

Perfect. Thanks!

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> 27.2
>
> On Thursday, October 11, 2018 at 12:49:26 PM UTC-4, Tully Lanter wrote:
>>
>> Quick question: can anyone confirm the Quickbeam's seatpost diameter?
>> Trying to figure out what to do with a spare...
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[RBW] Quickbeam seatpost diameter

[Tully Lanter]

Quick question: can anyone confirm the Quickbeam's seatpost diameter? 
Trying to figure out what to do with a spare...

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Re: [RBW] Re: WTB: 52 Clem L, possibly 55 Cheviot or canti-Sam

[Tully Lanter]

Thanks for the tip! Would be seriously tempted to snag it right now had
someone not beaten me to it already!

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On Wed, Oct 10, 2018, 4:15 PM Adam Leibow  wrote:

> you should see the riv special sale for the demo 55 sam H complete
>
> On Tuesday, October 9, 2018 at 2:35:03 PM UTC-7, Tully Lanter wrote:
>>
>> I'm looking for F/F/HS, complete, or anything in between. Shipping to
>> 98052.
>>
>> Slight preference for the Clem L since the price point makes goodies like
>> dynamo lighting more accessible. Still, any of these three would be
>> terrific, for slightly different reasons that I'd weight equally.
>>
>> Thanks, all, for the great collective input on frame choices!
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Re: [RBW] Re: Weighing options: Clem L vs. Cheviot (vs. ?)

[Tully Lanter]

Ha! Appreciated, Mark. I'll cross my fingers that two 52 Ls are floating
around out there!

On Wed, Oct 10, 2018 at 4:13 AM 'Mark in Beacon' via RBW Owners Bunch <
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> Oops, did not see Tully's new post seeking a bike. I withdraw my tentative
> query for now!
>
> On Tuesday, October 9, 2018 at 10:43:17 PM UTC-4, Mark in Beacon wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> Yes, I am a Clem L fanboy! If anyone has a 52 frame and fork in grilver,
>> I am almost at a point where I could consider reacquiring one--please let
>> me know.
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[RBW] WTB: 52 Clem L, possibly 55 Cheviot or canti-Sam

[Tully Lanter]

I'm looking for F/F/HS, complete, or anything in between. Shipping to 98052.

Slight preference for the Clem L since the price point makes goodies like 
dynamo lighting more accessible. Still, any of these three would be 
terrific, for slightly different reasons that I'd weight equally.

Thanks, all, for the great collective input on frame choices!

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Re: [RBW] Re: Weighing options: Clem L vs. Cheviot (vs. ?)

[Tully Lanter]

Joe - yep, my mistake. I read stoutness into your words re: the more
MTB-like...thanks for clarifying. Makes sense!

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> Tully, just to be clear, I didn't mention stoutness..they're both plenty
> stout to me at 190 pounds. For me the Cheviot has a lighter-feeling "road
> bike" ride, which Adam may be reflecting as stiffer.
>
> Overall both felt plush to me, especially in comparison to my current
> Roadini. But like you say, tires matter..the Roadini 700c wheels are
> carrying significantly narrow tires than I had on the other bikes. Shorter
> stays, too.
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[RBW] Re: Weighing options: Clem L vs. Cheviot (vs. ?)

[Tully Lanter]

Lum, lambbo - Agreed on looks! Striking from end to end, head badge 
included. Not sure it could get nicer.

Bicycle Belle (great username!) - Yes, it would be the 52cm, and I found 
the thread you mentioned just yesterday. Our local buses can accommodate a 
wheelbase of 46"...and Mr. Pythagoras tells me ~46.5" on the 52...so I 
imagine it's close enough.

Joe, Adam - Interesting to hear pretty much opposite takes on their 
stoutness! If nothing else, that speaks to the difference that the right 
tires make. 

Aesthetics push me toward the Cheviot, no question. V-brakes would be nice, 
but I'm satisfied with long-reach Tektro sidepulls and salmon Kool-Stops on 
my commuter. But the tire clearance...and *budget* clearance...of a Clem 
are appealing. Perhaps wisest not to split too many hairs, but take 
whichever comes up first, knowing I *really *can't go wrong here.


On Monday, October 8, 2018 at 7:40:57 PM UTC-7, Adam Leibow wrote:
>
> I own both. I find the Cheviot to be even stouter than the Clem L. some of 
> this sensation is in the tires (supple compass antelope pass on Clem L and 
> heavier schwalbe smart sam on Cheviot), but I think the triangulation 
> (higher toptube and the extra rear triangle make the cheviot's rear end 
> ride some what rock hard. Echoing what above people have said, the V brakes 
> of the Clem L are much stronger than whatever you'll put on the cheviot. 
> They're both amazing bikes. The effective toptube lengths are quite 
> different, so be aware of that. Good luck with your decision. 
>
> On Monday, October 8, 2018 at 3:32:48 PM UTC-7, Tully Lanter wrote:
>>
>> There are too many outstanding Riv frame options for my 
>> middle-of-the-road needs. Nice problem to face! 
>>
>> I've tested a Clem L and liked it. A lot. Silky smooth, 650b (in 52cm), 
>> step-through for those unplanned traffic/trail dismounts, ample tire 
>> clearance... 
>>
>> However, it felt overly stout for my 150 lbs and minimal cargo.
>>
>> Theoretically, the Cheviot seems like it would have a spritelier feel à 
>> la Sam/Homer while keeping the long chainstays and low, stretched-out top 
>> tube. For whoever has ridden some/all of these, is that about right?
>>
>> Not sure whether long-wheelbase models would fit in our buses' bike 
>> racks...but that's another matter!
>>
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[RBW] Weighing options: Clem L vs. Cheviot (vs. ?)

[Tully Lanter]

There are too many outstanding Riv frame options for my middle-of-the-road 
needs. Nice problem to face! 

I've tested a Clem L and liked it. A lot. Silky smooth, 650b (in 52cm), 
step-through for those unplanned traffic/trail dismounts, ample tire 
clearance... 

However, it felt overly stout for my 150 lbs and minimal cargo.

Theoretically, the Cheviot seems like it would have a spritelier feel à la 
Sam/Homer while keeping the long chainstays and low, stretched-out top 
tube. For whoever has ridden some/all of these, is that about right?

Not sure whether long-wheelbase models would fit in our buses' bike 
racks...but that's another matter!

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[RBW] Re: Ride recap - country biking on local paths

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Thanks, Mark. That's a good question...still mulling it over, but the Cheviot 
and Clem L are strong contenders at the moment. 

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[RBW] Ride recap - country biking on local paths

[Tully Lanter]

Riv content: Albatross-inspired handlebars ;)

Seattle-area weather gets fickle around this time of year. There's an equal 
chance of crisp, sunny days and gray, drizzly ones. Saturday was closer to 
the former. With the Quickbeam en route to a new home, I took my commuter 
out into the fall foliage for a between-Rivs "country biking" session. 

Some photos and comments are here 
.

It totaled about 20 miles with, perhaps, a couple thousand feet of total 
climbing. I previously rode that route last winter on a light, 20-speed 
"gravel" bike (long since sold due to lack of utility). The fairly upright 
single-speed was a totally different experience, but a *more* enjoyable one 
despite the grunting and groaning that a sole, 62" gear induces on 15% 
hills. I was delighted with the combination of 480mm chainstays and a 
longer top tube with Albatross-like bars, even on fairly harsh 35c tires 
that weren't totally up to the task.

It took all of five miles to become clear that a little more of the same--a 
bit more chainstay length, BB drop, tire clearance, not to mention Riv 
build quality--would be sublime.

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[RBW] Re: FS: 58cm Quickbeam (complete)

[Tully Lanter]

(Mostly) sold. Several parts remaining, which I'll consolidate with others 
in a separate thread.

On Sunday, September 30, 2018 at 12:45:31 PM UTC-7, Tully Lanter wrote:
>
> This is still available. I'm happy to consider offers if any interested 
> parties think $1300 packed and shipped is out of keeping with the market. 
>
> Potentially open to trades (Riv or not) for something leaning more city 
> and less sport. 
>
> On Friday, September 21, 2018 at 3:51:16 PM UTC-7, Tully Lanter wrote:
>>
>> Minor update: I've mounted the new Dia Compe 980 canti's front and rear, 
>> which went on with ease and nicely compliment the look of the bike. Will 
>> include the original Suntours just in case the buyer finds them useful. 
>>
>> I can confirm (as I was advised in another thread) that there is no heel 
>> contact with these brakes, at least for me. 
>>
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[RBW] Re: Feedback? Velo Orange Double Kickstand

[Tully Lanter]

Another plug for the VO wheel stabilizer alongside any kickstand. That's a 
game-changer with a front basket carrying more than a negligible load. It 
also makes bike through tight spaces a lot easier. Our apartment's walls 
have certainly benefited...

On Tuesday, October 2, 2018 at 1:44:32 PM UTC-7, Drw wrote:
>
> I have the vo on my weirdo cargo bike. It doesn’t feel as sturdy as a 
> pletscher ( I don’t know if I agree that the pletscher is lighter), but I 
> like the adjustable legs that don’t require cutting. You can kind of fine 
> tune it that way and get it to sit a little straighter. 

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[RBW] Re: FS: 58cm Quickbeam (complete)

[Tully Lanter]

This is still available. I'm happy to consider offers if any interested 
parties think $1300 packed and shipped is out of keeping with the market. 

Potentially open to trades (Riv or not) for something leaning more city and 
less sport. 

On Friday, September 21, 2018 at 3:51:16 PM UTC-7, Tully Lanter wrote:
>
> Minor update: I've mounted the new Dia Compe 980 canti's front and rear, 
> which went on with ease and nicely compliment the look of the bike. Will 
> include the original Suntours just in case the buyer finds them useful. 
>
> I can confirm (as I was advised in another thread) that there is no heel 
> contact with these brakes, at least for me. 
>

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[RBW] Re: New Rosco Cargo Mixte

[Tully Lanter]

"Perfectly weird" indeed! That is going to be a blast around town. Can't 
quite tell, but is that one of the VO double-legged kickstands?

On Friday, September 28, 2018 at 2:35:01 PM UTC-7, Drw wrote:
>
> Just finished converting my rosco mtn mixte with a crust cargo fork. I 
> think it came out perfectly weird. Shakedown ride says it rides 
> surprisingly normal, though I need to cut the steerer down some more. 
> Eventually it’ll get a big basket on the front and a kid seat on the back. 

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[RBW] Re: What epoch of Rivster are you?

[Tully Lanter]

Great thread! 

For sporty riding, the Quickbeam makes me a Golden Ager by default.

For utilitarian riding, rougher trails, and/or just cruising, I'd almost be 
certainly be a Clemster. In the spirit of scientific rigor, I should get 
one just to confirm...


On Wednesday, September 26, 2018 at 4:55:34 PM UTC-7, Philip Williamson 
wrote:
>
> Recent discussions make me wonder, what epoch of Rivendell bikes or 
> aesthetic most appeals to list members? 
>
> Which era do you identify with the most, or like the best? 
> Is it the era you first encountered Riv in, or did you look back through 
> the back catalog and say, "That's the one for me?" Or did you arrive early, 
> travel into the future with Rivendell and love best what's happening now? 
>
>- Are you a "*Proto-Riv*" aficionado of Longlows, Allrounders, and 
>Herons? 
>- A "*Golden Ager*?" Are Herons, Rambouillets, and Salukis your 
>favorites? 
>- Or are you a "*2TTer,*" a Bombadil, Hunq, and Sam Hillborner?
>- A "*Clemster*" and a Rosco? 
>- Have you become a "*New Atlantean*?" A Swoop-a-tuber, Hill-biker, 
>and a Gus Bootster? 
>
> Are these fixed preferences, or have you been most into a different era 
> before? Do you have shadings of more than one?  I first encountered Riv in 
> the Proto era, looking at the All Rounder. Overall I'm a Golden Ager, but 
> the New Atlantean age is looking pretty attractive. 
>
> Philip 
> Santa Rosa, CA 
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Re: [RBW] A gravel jaunt on the Quickbeam

[Tully Lanter]

Lum - Yes, indeed we do. The glorious summers and early autumns make all 
the gray, drizzly month a lot easier. Hope you get to ride out here one of 
these days. Sequim is a *really* beautiful place.

Patrick & Patrick - These are 35c Delta Cruisers, so a very supple 38 like 
the Barlow Pass sounds promising if the QB stays with me a while longer. 
Clearance will be tight but I can picture it working. Just mildly concerned 
about puncture protection. It has a 17/19 DOS ENO, by the way. Gear-inches 
fall in the high-50s and mid-60s, if memory serves.

On Tuesday, September 25, 2018 at 10:18:29 AM UTC-7, Patrick Moore wrote:
>
> From the photos, the surfaces and the bike look like very good 
> combination. Do you have the QB set up with a fixed or freewheel cog?
>
> I take it that those tires are 32s?
>
> Around my house, the sand pretty much makes a fixed off road bike 
> impractical, though I do ride my fixed, 559 X ~28 Riv Roads on some of the 
> firmer parts. But 50 mm seems a minimum, and 60 is better. 
>
> On Mon, Sep 24, 2018 at 9:31 PM, Tully Lanter  > wrote:
>
>> You can't ask for better weather than late September in the Northwest. 
>> Unless warm, dry, and sunny isn't your cup of tea. So, with my Quickbeam 
>> apparently not on the verge of selling, how better to enjoy a beautiful 
>> afternoon than to take it on a longer, gravelly-er ride than usual? 
>>
>> We live near a beautiful path that follows a utilities right-of-way a few 
>> miles before connecting with the similar but far longer Tolt Pipeline 
>> Trail. The road crossings are relatively few but, like most east-west 
>> routes in the Seattle area, the climbs are remarkably steep! 
>>
>> Here are a few hasty photos and notes 
>> <https://www.flickr.com/gp/93513892@N04/KLq3a8> from the ride. 
>>
>> The Quickbeam was a delight, and even more enjoyable than I expected on 
>> this sort of ride. Quite a revelation to enjoy it without my usual 
>> commuting load. The VO Porteur bars--necessary for a comfortable city 
>> riding position--were too relaxed. I found myself mostly on the curves, 
>> wishing for a bit more reach, even though I appreciated their height during 
>> the steep, twisty descents (not pictured since they're not conducive to 
>> stopping mid-way!). I'll revert Noodle bars with a taller stem to try to 
>> split the different. 
>>
>> More tire clearance would have been nice, less for smoothness (not that 
>> I'd object!) than for traction on steep, loose segments. Toe overlap also 
>> becomes a problem during the twistier portions, especially uphill. Removing 
>> the fenders would help, but they're necessary during most of the year here. 
>> All the more so on a bike that serves first and foremost as a commuter. I 
>> haven't yet decided what to replace the Quickbeam with, but does seem like 
>> a longer 650b frame, or even 26" (if available for an ~86cm PBH), would 
>> suit me well.
>>
>> Anyhow, I plan to extend this ride significantly next weekend, and 
>> perhaps catch a few photos of the gorgeous forests a few miles (and a 
>> thousand feet of climbing) past where I ended. Not a bad little corner of 
>> the world!
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[RBW] A gravel jaunt on the Quickbeam

[Tully Lanter]

You can't ask for better weather than late September in the Northwest. 
Unless warm, dry, and sunny isn't your cup of tea. So, with my Quickbeam 
apparently not on the verge of selling, how better to enjoy a beautiful 
afternoon than to take it on a longer, gravelly-er ride than usual? 

We live near a beautiful path that follows a utilities right-of-way a few 
miles before connecting with the similar but far longer Tolt Pipeline 
Trail. The road crossings are relatively few but, like most east-west 
routes in the Seattle area, the climbs are remarkably steep! 

Here are a few hasty photos and notes 
 from the ride. 

The Quickbeam was a delight, and even more enjoyable than I expected on 
this sort of ride. Quite a revelation to enjoy it without my usual 
commuting load. The VO Porteur bars--necessary for a comfortable city 
riding position--were too relaxed. I found myself mostly on the curves, 
wishing for a bit more reach, even though I appreciated their height during 
the steep, twisty descents (not pictured since they're not conducive to 
stopping mid-way!). I'll revert Noodle bars with a taller stem to try to 
split the different. 

More tire clearance would have been nice, less for smoothness (not that I'd 
object!) than for traction on steep, loose segments. Toe overlap also 
becomes a problem during the twistier portions, especially uphill. Removing 
the fenders would help, but they're necessary during most of the year here. 
All the more so on a bike that serves first and foremost as a commuter. I 
haven't yet decided what to replace the Quickbeam with, but does seem like 
a longer 650b frame, or even 26" (if available for an ~86cm PBH), would 
suit me well.

Anyhow, I plan to extend this ride significantly next weekend, and perhaps 
catch a few photos of the gorgeous forests a few miles (and a thousand feet 
of climbing) past where I ended. Not a bad little corner of the world!

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[RBW] Re: WTB: Non-aero levers + Dirt Drop/similar stem

[Tully Lanter]

Thanks, all. All set for now!

On Monday, September 24, 2018 at 7:47:31 AM UTC-7, RichS wrote:
>
> Tully,
>
> Just sent you a PM.
>
> Regards,
> Rich in ATL
>
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[RBW] Here's my new Atlantis

[Tully Lanter]

Looking good! I haven't seen many blacked-out Rivs, but the contrast with the 
vivid frame color is striking, and a great look all the way around.

I would love to read your impressions of how those two compare. 

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[RBW] WTB: Non-aero levers + Dirt Drop/similar stem

[Tully Lanter]

I'm continuing my Quickbeam cockpit experiments in hopes that something really 
clicks. Next up: an 80-100mm Dirt Drop stem, or something comparable.

Also looking to mount some non-aero levers at the same time. Anything 
functional is fine by me, so long as ferrules and the like (if missing) aren't 
tough to track down.

Thanks! 

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[RBW] Re: FS: 58cm Quickbeam (complete)

[Tully Lanter]

Minor update: I've mounted the new Dia Compe 980 canti's front and rear, which 
went on with ease and nicely compliment the look of the bike. Will include the 
original Suntours just in case the buyer finds them useful. 

I can confirm (as I was advised in another thread) that there is no heel 
contact with these brakes, at least for me. 

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Re: [RBW] Re: Orange Roadini

[Tully Lanter]

Looking fantastic. Great little detail with the copper rivets in the black 
saddle, color-wise. And didn't expect bullmoose bars on that frame; as 
mentioned above, that's neat to see!

On Wednesday, September 19, 2018 at 5:35:35 PM UTC-7, Joe Bernard wrote:
>
> New pics! 105 road rear derailleur, RX100 (remember those?) triple front, 
> Shimano 8-speed DT shifter on a de-SunRaced thumbie, Suntour DT for front, 
> Brooks ti B17. The Woody Chop Chorts don't really make sense on a bike with 
> fender clearance, but I like the minimalist vibe. Fun bike!
>
>  https://photos.app.goo.gl/m5CBYUsrzVVfGrYWA
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[RBW] Re: FS: 58cm Quickbeam (complete)

[Tully Lanter]

I finally had a chance to take photos in decent, natural light and have 
posted the album here <https://imgur.com/a/qTcSO8Z>. Happy to take any 
others that you would find helpful, of course.

On Saturday, September 15, 2018 at 3:56:55 PM UTC-7, Tully Lanter wrote:
>
> To come down slightly/give a break on shipping, let's call it a flat $1300 
> *shipped* in the lower 48 (and packed by my local shop). 
>
> Quick clarifiations: the existing brakes (Suntour XC Pro) will remain on 
> the bike and the new Dia Compes will be in the package. Two-fer-one, or 
> one-point-five-fer-one anyhow. Additionally, I didn't plan to include the 
> rack or basket (since they're cheapies that may require a larger box) but 
> am happy to figure something out if desired.
>
> On Thursday, September 13, 2018 at 9:12:05 PM UTC-7, Tully Lanter wrote:
>>
>> I've finally gotten some mileage in, and reluctantly and unfortunately 
>> concluded that this isn't the one for me now. Easily my favorite road-ish 
>> bike ever, but something about longer and slacker frames just feels more 
>> "right" for how/where I *most often *ride. Will probably regret selling 
>> this one some years from now, but until then...
>>
>> More photos available here <https://imgur.com/a/KFqn2oS>. 
>>
>> I'm the third owner (purchased from a fellow member). There's a fair 
>> amount of "beausage" but most scratches have been protected with clear nail 
>> polish. Build includes:
>>
>> - VO headset
>> - Nitto stem and post
>> - Albastache, Noodle, and/or VO Porteur bars 
>> - Aero or (my new favorite) inverse levers
>> - Sugino cranks
>> - Phil rear hub and White 17/19 on Grand Bois
>> - Original QB front wheel; worn braking surface (tried to photograph, 
>> tough angle) but certainly has some life
>> - Berthoud fenders, dented and drilled but rock solid, with nifty PDW 
>> safety mounts
>> - 35c Delta Cruisers, barely ridden
>> - Will include a pair of nearly new Dia Compe 980 canti's, since the left 
>> rear brake arm has a spring/washer issue that I haven't managed to fix (but 
>> the front one is great) 
>> - Some miscellaneous extras/freebies
>> - No saddle or pedals
>>
>> Thinking of roughly $1250 net of shipping/fees, depending on a couple 
>> component and accessory options. I'm in the Seattle area (Eastside), if any 
>> locals care to take a look!
>>
>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: FS: 58cm Quickbeam (complete)

[Tully Lanter]

To come down slightly/give a break on shipping, let's call it a flat $1300 
*shipped* in the lower 48 (and packed by my local shop). 

Quick clarifiations: the existing brakes (Suntour XC Pro) will remain on 
the bike and the new Dia Compes will be in the package. Two-fer-one, or 
one-point-five-fer-one anyhow. Additionally, I didn't plan to include the 
rack or basket (since they're cheapies that may require a larger box) but 
am happy to figure something out if desired.

On Thursday, September 13, 2018 at 9:12:05 PM UTC-7, Tully Lanter wrote:
>
> I've finally gotten some mileage in, and reluctantly and unfortunately 
> concluded that this isn't the one for me now. Easily my favorite road-ish 
> bike ever, but something about longer and slacker frames just feels more 
> "right" for how/where I *most often *ride. Will probably regret selling 
> this one some years from now, but until then...
>
> More photos available here <https://imgur.com/a/KFqn2oS>. 
>
> I'm the third owner (purchased from a fellow member). There's a fair 
> amount of "beausage" but most scratches have been protected with clear nail 
> polish. Build includes:
>
> - VO headset
> - Nitto stem and post
> - Albastache, Noodle, and/or VO Porteur bars 
> - Aero or (my new favorite) inverse levers
> - Sugino cranks
> - Phil rear hub and White 17/19 on Grand Bois
> - Original QB front wheel; worn braking surface (tried to photograph, 
> tough angle) but certainly has some life
> - Berthoud fenders, dented and drilled but rock solid, with nifty PDW 
> safety mounts
> - 35c Delta Cruisers, barely ridden
> - Will include a pair of nearly new Dia Compe 980 canti's, since the left 
> rear brake arm has a spring/washer issue that I haven't managed to fix (but 
> the front one is great) 
> - Some miscellaneous extras/freebies
> - No saddle or pedals
>
> Thinking of roughly $1250 net of shipping/fees, depending on a couple 
> component and accessory options. I'm in the Seattle area (Eastside), if any 
> locals care to take a look!
>
>
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: Bar-end brake levers on Albastache?

[Tully Lanter]

Yes, I went with the 23.8mm Porteur and installed the levers without issue.
Will keep the Dirt Drop in mind should I get the itch to experiment
further...

Fortunately, from today's initial ride, the Porteur (exactly as in
yesterday's pics) seems to have hit the sweet spot!

On Wed, Sep 12, 2018 at 5:20 AM Garth  wrote:

>
>
>I can't tell exactly the reach/height of your stem as shown, but a stem
> with more rise, like a Dirt Drop will certainly offer more height so you
> could keep the bar.
>
>The VO Porteur offers 40mm more rise, if that is indeed enough, I
> assume you are aware that they come in 22.2 or 23.8 ?  With a 23.8 the bar
> end levers you have will fit perfectly.
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[RBW] Re: FS: levers + Nitto bars; WTB: brakes + dyno wheel + lights

[Tully Lanter]

Wheel and lights tentatively taken care of, too.

Meanwhile, here <https://imgur.com/a/3r4Rf69> are photos of the handlebars. 
Note that the large scratches-/gouge-looking spots on the Noodle bar are 
just aluminum tape that I haven't totally removed yet.

On Monday, September 10, 2018 at 10:10:58 PM UTC-7, Tully Lanter wrote:
>
> A few things to unload and others to pick up. First, for sale:
>
> - Nitto Noodle bars, 46cm. Came with my Quickbeam, and they're nice, but 
> not upright enough. $35 + shipping. 
> - Nitto Albastache bars. Recently purchased used, also nice, but still not 
> upright enough. $40 + shipping. 
> - Cane Creek(?) aero brake levers with black hoods. Much older but work 
> well and feel good. Just switched to inverse levers. $15 + shipping. 
>
> Will update with photos next chance I get. Would guess at most $15 to ship 
> the bars in the lower 48 and $5 for the levers. 
>
>
> Meanwhile, I'd love to pick up:
>
> - Cantilever brakes, preferably a pair, but I only urgently need one for 
> the rear. 
> - A front wheel with a 700c, QR, 6V3W dynamo hub and ample braking surface 
> left. Compatible front and rear lights are definitely of interest, too! 
>
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[RBW] Re: FS: levers + Nitto bars; WTB: brakes + dyno wheel + lights

[Tully Lanter]

Brakes are taken care of.

On Monday, September 10, 2018 at 10:10:58 PM UTC-7, Tully Lanter wrote:
>
> A few things to unload and others to pick up. First, for sale:
>
> - Nitto Noodle bars, 46cm. Came with my Quickbeam, and they're nice, but 
> not upright enough. $35 + shipping. 
> - Nitto Albastache bars. Recently purchased used, also nice, but still not 
> upright enough. $40 + shipping. 
> - Cane Creek(?) aero brake levers with black hoods. Much older but work 
> well and feel good. Just switched to inverse levers. $15 + shipping. 
>
> Will update with photos next chance I get. Would guess at most $15 to ship 
> the bars in the lower 48 and $5 for the levers. 
>
>
> Meanwhile, I'd love to pick up:
>
> - Cantilever brakes, preferably a pair, but I only urgently need one for 
> the rear. 
> - A front wheel with a 700c, QR, 6V3W dynamo hub and ample braking surface 
> left. Compatible front and rear lights are definitely of interest, too! 
>
>

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[RBW] FS: levers + Nitto bars; WTB: brakes + dyno wheel + lights

[Tully Lanter]

A few things to unload and others to pick up. First, for sale:

- Nitto Noodle bars, 46cm. Came with my Quickbeam, and they're nice, but not 
upright enough. $35 + shipping. 
- Nitto Albastache bars. Recently purchased used, also nice, but still not 
upright enough. $40 + shipping. 
- Cane Creek(?) aero brake levers with black hoods. Much older but work well 
and feel good. Just switched to inverse levers. $15 + shipping. 

Will update with photos next chance I get. Would guess at most $15 to ship the 
bars in the lower 48 and $5 for the levers. 


Meanwhile, I'd love to pick up:

- Cantilever brakes, preferably a pair, but I only urgently need one for the 
rear. 
- A front wheel with a 700c, QR, 6V3W dynamo hub and ample braking surface 
left. Compatible front and rear lights are definitely of interest, too! 

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Re: [RBW] Re: New(-to-me) Quickbeam

[Tully Lanter]

I should have mentioned earlier that I aligned and re-installed the arm
about five times, and noticed the exact same slip each time, even after
cleaning up the gouges as well as I could. All that to say, Keith: PM on
its way!

On Sun, Sep 9, 2018 at 12:23 PM iamkeith  wrote:

> Sure enough.  I could be wrong, but i doubt it "slipped" out of the hole.
> It's really easy to install them without being lined up.  I've done it a
> dozen times, which is why I mentioned it.  I'd take a file and smooth the
> rough spots, reassemble, and see if it stays in place.
>
> If it still doesn't work, send me a PM.  I might have something to trade,
> and my MB-1 has a complete XC Pro group with the exception of brakes.
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Re: [RBW] Re: New(-to-me) Quickbeam

[Tully Lanter]

Keith - That's an interesting note about the spring colors and insertion
holes. Will confirm!

Dave - I'm running 35mm Delta Cruisers under 50mm fenders, and it's tight
but not worrisome. Wouldn't be surprised if (some) 38s also fit.

On Sun, Sep 2, 2018 at 10:00 AM iamkeith  wrote:

> Backpedaling here...
>
> Looks like all the self energizing ones were black.  I thought non-SE like
> on the bike pro page were vapor ware and never really made it to market,
> but I appear to be wrong.  I'd still check the internal springs to make
> sure they didn't get switched to the wrong sides.  Since they were made by
> dia compe, they likely have the same springs as 987s which are color
> coded.  As you look at the bike from the front or rear, the arm on the left
> should use the yellow spring, with silver on the right.  I think.  ( might
> also be backwards since your adjuster nut is on the other side of the arm
> compared to the dia compes?)  It will work with the springs reversed, just
> barely, because even a spring that is UN-wound will want to return to its
> neutral position.  Also, there are little holes that either end of the
> spring needs to plug into, at the arm and tension adjuster nut.  It will
> fit together even if not engaged, so verify that the are.
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[RBW] Bar-end brake levers on Albastache?

[Tully Lanter]

Has anyone tried that combo? 

I plan to put Albastache bars on my Quickbeam, and realized that levers 
like these 

 should 
preserve more hand positions while keeping the brakes accessible from the 
wide, short-reach position.


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[RBW] Re: New(-to-me) Quickbeam

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Thanks, all, for the brake tips. The mounts do have three holes, but this 
particular model (Suntour XC Pro) uses an internal spring. Haven't opened 
it up yet, but should be simple enough, based on this explanation 
. 
There's more cable drag than I'd like for the rear (probably my own fault!) 
so I haven't ruled that out, either.

Meanwhile, the front feels *excellent *and is already making me a fan of 
canti's!

Philip - The other neat thing about the PDW mounts, as you might already 
know, is that they can break away. Quite reassuring on wooded trails!



On Friday, August 31, 2018 at 9:50:36 AM UTC-7, Pondero wrote:
>
> Tully, I just wanted to chime in with my congrats on the beautifully build 
> QB.  I've owned mine for several years, and the ride quality still delights 
> me.  Since mine is orange, I'd be pleased to see more photos of yours in 
> the future to provide some balance.
>
>
> https://www.instagram.com/p/BieaUVcBova/?utm_source=ig_web_button_share_sheet
>
> Chris Johnson
> Sanger, Texas
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Re: [RBW] New(-to-me) Quickbeam

[Tully Lanter]

And, Patrick, that was a terrific read. Thanks for sharing that linkand 
I'm glad to know I'm not the only one inclined to wax poetic about 
single-speeding!

On Thursday, August 30, 2018 at 7:30:40 PM UTC-7, Deacon Patrick wrote:
>
> Welcome, Tully, to the sub-sub-cycling culture that is Quickbeamhood! Let 
> your bike teach you and you will learn much! Now, go and fix the problem of 
> having a way too clean bike! Grin. Here’s my musings on my Quickbeam after 
> three years (which was a few years ago now): 
> https://thegrid.ai/withabandon/quickbeam-sightings 
>
> John, you DO have exactly the same frame with gears. All bikes come with 
> LCG (lowest common gear), so all bikes, even SS and Fixed come with gears. 
> Grin. I mentioned this to some poor hiker the other day and he couldn’t 
> stop laughing. Heard him the entire time I was in earshot climbing up the 
> hill. I think he may still be there. Maybe I should take food, just in 
> case. Grin. 
>
> With abandon, 
> Patrick

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Re: [RBW] New(-to-me) Quickbeam

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Thanks, all. Ample dirty, muddy, meandering to come!

Eric - The maddening thing is that no amount of loosening/tightening the 
springs on either/both arms has done trick. Surely there's a simple 
solution for that simple device, but I'm low on ideas. Fortunately, as long 
as I don't pull the rear lever, it spins freely and gets me to work in the 
mean time!

On Thursday, August 30, 2018 at 7:30:40 PM UTC-7, Deacon Patrick wrote:
>
> Welcome, Tully, to the sub-sub-cycling culture that is Quickbeamhood! Let 
> your bike teach you and you will learn much! Now, go and fix the problem of 
> having a way too clean bike! Grin. Here’s my musings on my Quickbeam after 
> three years (which was a few years ago now): 
> https://thegrid.ai/withabandon/quickbeam-sightings 
>
> John, you DO have exactly the same frame with gears. All bikes come with 
> LCG (lowest common gear), so all bikes, even SS and Fixed come with gears. 
> Grin. I mentioned this to some poor hiker the other day and he couldn’t 
> stop laughing. Heard him the entire time I was in earshot climbing up the 
> hill. I think he may still be there. Maybe I should take food, just in 
> case. Grin. 
>
> With abandon, 
> Patrick

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[RBW] Re: Is a 6% change in gearing noticeable?

[Tully Lanter]

Yep, you'll notice. In my experience, that small of a reduction feels less 
like you've shifted and more like you're in the same gear with fresher 
legs. So, definitely perceptible, but probably not a game-changer.

On Monday, August 6, 2018 at 3:30:41 PM UTC-7, Dave Small wrote:
>
> Hi all.  One of the bikes I brought with me to Boston when I moved was a 
> Quickbeam with 38mm tires, 42 teeth in front and 16 in back.  Sheldon puts 
> it that 71.7 inches.  That worked well on the long, straight, and 
> relatively uninterrupted roads north of Indianapolis, but I now find it too 
> high because of the traffic and the congestion on paths.  I have to stop 
> and go much more often and don't go as fast even when I am riding, and I 
> want to lower the gearing to adjust for these new limitations.  Mainly I 
> want to be able to get up to speed faster and easier when taking off from a 
> red light, but also my overall cruising speed is slower because of the 
> vehicular and pedestrian traffic.   
>
> If I go from 16 to 17 teeth in back then the gear goes from 71.7 to 67.5 
> inches, a 6.3% reduction.  Going from 16 to 18 teeth sends me down to 63.7 
> inches, an 11.2% reduction.  I know I'll feel the change from 16 to 18, but 
> in your experience would I notice a 6% reduction from 16 to 17, or is that 
> too small a jump to make any practical difference?  Any recommendations 
> from the single-speeders out there?  
>
> Thanks.  
>
> Dave
> Boston/Indy
>

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[RBW] Re: Long(er) fender daruma bolts for basket/rack on Quickbeam

[Tully Lanter]

Philip - Yes, there will be a photo thread in the near future! Great, clean 
look with the basket atop the rack. Hadn't thought to try. Which basket is 
that?

TopsfieldRider - Nope, I had not seen those, but they're *exactly* what I 
needed. Ordering now. Thanks! Should work like a charm if I place them 
outside the basket/rack stays on sufficiently longer M5 bolts.

On Saturday, August 11, 2018 at 9:59:55 AM UTC-7, TopsfieldRider wrote:
>
> Hi Tully, 
>
>
> Have you seen the Saftey Tabs that Portland Design Works makes?  They 
> serve the same purpose as the SKS clips and can be used on GB fenders. I 
> have them on a few bikes. 
>
>
> https://ridepdw.com/products/full-metal-fenders-safety-tabs?variant=24829153601
>  
>
> Best, 
>
> David

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[RBW] Long(er) fender daruma bolts for basket/rack on Quickbeam

[Tully Lanter]

I've got a gorgeous green Quickbeam sitting on the patio, recently arrived 
from a fellow RBW member, ready to roll but for a basket and rack.

Unfortunately there's just one eyelet front and rear, and mounting anything 
to QR axles seems imprudent, if even possible.

The fenders (Berthoud stainless) are currently in these 

 clever 
daruma bolts, which are too short for the basket and rack stays (about 2mm 
and 4mm wide, respectively). Longer daruma bolts seem like the most elegant 
solution, but may not exist. Anyone know where to look? 

If something like the SKS clips 

 were 
compatible with Berthoud stays, that might be even better. I considered 
good ol' P-clamps but am concerned (paranoid?) about mounting loads where a 
frame wasn't quite designed for it.

Open to other suggestions, of course!

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Re: [RBW] Re: WTB: 58cm Quickbeam/SimpleOne (or others?)

[Tully Lanter]

Interesting observation on the head tube, John. I wouldn't have caught
that.

I actually just purchased one from a list member, and should be up and
running in the near future. Ride pics and a new (old) bike day post to
follow, naturally...

Thanks!

On Tue, Jul 3, 2018 at 6:30 AM John G.  wrote:

> Headtube looks pretty short for a 58cm Quickbeam. It appears to be
> measured center to top. I'm not sure what actual size that equates to.
>
> On Tuesday, July 3, 2018 at 8:38:57 AM UTC-4, Tom Wyland wrote:
>>
>>
>> There's a quickbeam, 58 cm, on Ebay right now:
>> https://www.ebay.com/itm/Rivendell-Quickbeam-58cm-Green-Single-Speed-Road-Bike-with-Dura-Ace-Nitto/27253803?hash=item3fa3ee76ab:g:QxcAAOSwSkxbOZNF
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[RBW] Re: 59cm MIT Atlantis build and (short) ride report

[Tully Lanter]

Don't think I could imagine a nicer-looking build than that. May it serve 
you well!

Intriguing bars, by the way. Are these 
 the ones? 

On Thursday, June 21, 2018 at 1:35:23 PM UTC-7, ctifusion wrote:
>
> Hi all,
>
> Just finished my Atlantis build and I couldn't be happier. I've been 
> coveting (and riding) Bridgestones and Rivendells since the 90s and, though 
> I had a Quickbeam and still have vintage B-stones and a bunch of vintage 
> bikes, my last major/modern build was based around a 60cm LHT with 26-inch 
> wheels and Compass RTP tires. Just couldn't justify/afford a Rivendell 
> build five years ago. And that's ok, the LHT has served me well and will 
> continue to be my rough weather/winter bike. But I've been wanting a new, 
> geared Rivendell for a long time.
>
> The sizing on the Sams was just off enough for me (I'm right between the 
> 58 and 62) to pass on it the couple times I got serious and I never took a 
> serious look at the Appaloosa. I have a collection of vintage 80s mountain 
> bikes that are just too close to justify getting a Clem. So when I saw the 
> new Atlantis I was hooked. I have always loved the color and I've been 
> dying to try the modern long wheelbase Rivs. 
>
> I've built a lot of bikes with different versions of the classic riv build 
> so I was looking to do something different and (in my mind) modern. I 
> decided on a 1x11 (ended up with a 1x10), fat tires, and the super wide 
> Crust bars (swapped from my LHT which will go back to an upright bar). I 
> was worried about having to use a couple black parts to make the 1x10 set 
> up work but I think it looks pretty cool. I can do a full parts list if 
> anyone is interested.
>
> I will still use my LHT for the majority of my committing and winter/rain 
> riding. The Atlantis will be used for longer rides and hopefully adding 
> some more serious mileage to my routine. I've seen my pleasure riding 
> diminish recently, so it's time for a new bike and some new roads.
>
> I finished it last night and was able to get a few miles on it before dark 
> (and of course it's been raining all day today!). I immediately found it a 
> really engaging ride, especially compared to the LHT which is stable but a 
> bit "dead." I'm a big guy and the combination of the stout frame, long 
> wheelbase, and fat Compass 55cm tires makes for a stable and lively ride. I 
> LOVE the extended read end, especially when cornering and accelerating from 
> a seated position. I'll post a more detailed ride update with the rain 
> clears.
>
> I should note that it took 2 chains because of the wheelbase, other than 
> that everything went smoothly on the build.
>
> Best,
> Brynnar
> Indy
>
>
>

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[RBW] Re: WTB: 58cm Quickbeam/SimpleOne (or others?)

[Tully Lanter]

Very cool. Not familiar with that model so thanks for bringing it to my 
attention.

On Sunday, June 24, 2018 at 6:48:54 PM UTC-7, iamkeith wrote:
>
> Paul's rosco bubbe frame, for sale below, is the right size and has 
> horizontal dropouts...

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[RBW] Re: WTB: 58cm Quickbeam/SimpleOne (or others?)

[Tully Lanter]

Thanks, Bill. I'm planning to stick with canti/v brakes (probably the 
latter)...but much appreciated!

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[RBW] WTB: 58cm Quickbeam/SimpleOne (or others?)

[Tully Lanter]

I briefly looked for a Quickbeam/SimpleOne over the winter to no avail 
(turns out I was seeking the wrong size anyhow)...but now it's time to 
resume the search!

Seeking a 58cm frame (5'10" with 85-86cm PBH) and am OK with complete 
bikes, partial builds, or just F/F/HS. Shipping would be to the Seattle 
area. 

I realize the QB/SO are hard to find these days and *am *open to a chain 
tensioner on some other lighter-duty Riv model. Canti mounts and clearance 
for 35mm tires with fenders are the only must-haves.

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[RBW] Re: Stack and reach of 55 sizes of Appaloosa and (current) Sam?

[Tully Lanter]

It's the vertical distance between the center of the crank and the top(?) 
of the head tube, so it gives *some idea *of how tall the front end will 
feel. I emphasize "some idea" because factors like BB drop, frame reach, 
head and seat tube angles, etc. can make the same stack number feel wildly 
different...and that's before you even move the quill stem up/down!

On Saturday, June 23, 2018 at 10:57:35 AM UTC-7, Jonathan D. wrote:
>
> I’m curious as someone learning about bikes what does the slack tell you 
> and why is it an accurate way of knowing fit. 

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[RBW] Re: Marty's Step-through Single

[Tully Lanter]

Nice build - I dig the clean, black-and-silver look with the single-speed 
simplicity. How do you find the G-Ones on pavement? 

On Sunday, June 17, 2018 at 5:06:47 AM UTC-7, MartyG wrote:
>
> Starting a new thread to document the travels of my silver step-through. 
> Set up now as a single. White eccentric hub out back with an 18t Shimano 
> freewheel. TA Zephyr double up front with a 36t ring and an All City guard. 
> (Thanks to Gravel & Grind's yard sale for both of those!)  Lowered the 
> Bosco Bullmoose all the way, and they feel just right at that level. Still 
> needs grips, but I took it our for an early Father's Day ride and it was so 
> nice on our local rail trail. 
>
>
> 
>
>

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[RBW] Re: My new Sam is complete!

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That is one gorgeous bike! More of a reader than poster here, but had to say 
how striking that black + cream + (subtle) copper turned out.

Incidentally, what about the albastache do you prefer to the moustache?

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[RBW] Re: FS: A. Homer Hilsen Frame 56/650b

[Tully Lanter]

Darn, need something a bit wider...but thanks for the info!

On Sunday, May 27, 2018 at 1:50:08 PM UTC-7, d2mini wrote:
>
> They’re Velocity Synergy 32 hole rims with shimano hubs. 

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[RBW] Re: FS: A. Homer Hilsen Frame 56/650b

[Tully Lanter]

d2mini,

I've been looking for a wheelset right along those lines. Are they these 

 or 
something different? Any quick notes on the condition?

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[RBW] Re: Seems I stumbled across the most(?) Rivendell-like alternative out there

[Tully Lanter]

I'd agree with that speculation: things like the freewheel and long-reach 
brake calipers (both serviceable but not remotely impressive) probably 
knock $100 off the sticker price, plus another $100 or whatever for 
comparable headsets and bottom brackets...zero frame embellishments...and 
the numbers start to make sense to me. The 4130 was a (pleasant) surprise, 
though.

On Sunday, May 27, 2018 at 12:32:31 PM UTC-7, Eric Karnes wrote:
>
> Seems pretty in line with the prices of Linus, Pure, Public, etc. Or even 
> entry-level Specialized and Trek. Although I'll grant you those frames are 
> 4130 CrMo. Do they ride as nice as a Riv? Of course not. But I've ridden a 
> few of the above brands, and they're not bad. As to how they do it: I'm 
> speculating, but my guess is bulk manufacture in China combined with bulk 
> purchase of entry-level parts.
>
> Eric
>
>
> On Sunday, May 27, 2018 at 2:28:54 PM UTC-4, Dave Small wrote:
>>
>> I just looked at their website and they're offering seemingly-nice 
>> complete bikes for $400 to $750 and that includes delivery to, and assembly 
>> by, a local bike shop?  How can they do that?
>>
>> Dave
>>
>>

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[RBW] WTB: Quickbeam/SimpleOne size 56cm

[Tully Lanter]

Title about says it all! Finally unloaded my seldom-ridden mountain bike, 
and am itching to get back on a single-speed.

I'd strongly prefer a Quickbeam/SimpleOne if anybody is looking to move a 
complete 56, but non-Riv options with roughly comparable geometry would be 
all right by me. Not sure how feasible, but I'd like to stay well under $1k 
shipped (to 98052)...with some flexibility if needed.

Best,

Tully

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[RBW] Re: Thoughts/considerations for Clem as daily do-it-all bike?

[Tully Lanter]

Thanks, Davey. That makes a whole lot of sense. 

I ended up going a different direction, thanks to an extraordinary (and totally 
unexpected) deal on a city/light cargo bike that meets all of my utilitarian 
needs to the letter.

The savings were such that a second bike for recreational "needs"...the longer, 
faster weekend road rides and whatnot...is totally feasible. And easily 
justified. I'll be watching the Roadini discussions/reviews here with great 
interest! 

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[RBW] Re: What is a Rivvish bike?

[Tully Lanter]

Not (yet) a Riv owner so take this with an extra-large grain of salt. What 
put RBW on my radar--and keeps numerous brands off--is that the bikes all 
seem to:


   - Favor versatility over specialization
   - Maintain a healthy skepticism toward technical changes with cost 
   and/or complexity that overwhelms any practical benefits
   - Let form follow function, but keep function practical (e.g., city and 
   trail riding, not triathlons or cliff-hucking), and then "pretty it up" 
   enough to enjoy looking at it.

I started modifying previous bikes with those priorities in mind. It got me 
wondering if someone more experienced hadn't already done the same, but 
more thoroughly. Turns out yes.


On Sunday, October 29, 2017 at 6:01:16 AM UTC-7, Fullylugged wrote:
>
> I'm sort of with Phillip here. Rivendell has been evolving during its 
> tenure in the cycling world, but it began based in low BB, long chain stay, 
> neutral handling designs, with a lean to comfortably high handle bars, 
> leather saddles, wider tires (limited by brakes available at the time) and 
> lugged joints. Always steel tubes. Additionally, there have always been 
> artistic touches to make the bikes stand out (head badges and badge designs 
> included), and build kits that are sensible, work reliably and are not 
> stratospheric in cost. Some models are now mostly tig welded to hold down 
> cost but they still ride like a Riv.
>
> Other bikes can be made Rivish, and some competitors (Velo Orange comes to 
> mind) have intentionally tried to do so. I rebuilt an old Japanese made 
> Nashbar MK III in Rivish style and it is a great bike for another example. 
> I personally like the older RBW offerings myself, but would not hesitate to 
> order a custom if finances and need dictated. As it is, the 2 Rivs I 
> already have along with that Nashbar make a super troika of pedal partners 
> for me.
>

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[RBW] WTB: 52cm Clem, complete or frameset

[Tully Lanter]

I am in the market for a 52cm Clem! Preferably a complete bike, but a 
frameset/partial build could also do the trick. The L frame would be ideal, 
but I'm not averse to an H, either.

I'm located in the greater Seattle area, and happy to drive a bit to meet 
sellers in this vicinity. Thanks!

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[RBW] Re: Thoughts/considerations for Clem as daily do-it-all bike?

[Tully Lanter]

After your collective sizing feedback, plus confirmation from Rivelo and 
elsewhere, a 52cm Clem L is definitely in my future. Just a matter of where 
to find one! Will create a separate wanted post here, and keep my fingers 
crossed. Thanks again to you all for the guidance.

On Thursday, October 26, 2017 at 8:27:14 AM UTC-7, Tully Lanter wrote:
>
> Hi, all. I've had my eye on a Clem for a while now, and would appreciate 
> your take on whether it's a reasonable choice. 
>
>- 5'10", ~85cm PBH, presumably in need of a 52cm frame
>- Fairly short but steep daily commutes (in the Pacific NW., i.e., 
>hilly and wet) 
>- Occasional Costco runs and the like. Long chainstays are appealing 
>for the heavy loads and bumpy roads!
>- Random, long-ish distance rides on unpredictable routes. Pavement, 
>gravel, etc. in varying proportions. Bits of singletrack if I'm so 
> inclined.
>
> I'm drawn to the Clem's relaxed but not extreme geometry, total lack of 
> back-box components, and (relatively) accessible price point. All in all, 
> does it sounds like I'm barking up the right tree? 
>
> I'm inclined just to take the plunge on a secondhand Clem (if they're out 
> there...), but since even "cheap" Rivendells aren't cheap, I'd love to hear 
> your collective thoughts first!
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: Thoughts/considerations for Clem as daily do-it-all bike?

[Tully Lanter]

I have in fact been leaning toward the Clem L (or a step-through version of
whatever else I might choose). After getting over the less-than-rational
"girl's bike" stigma, I came to appreciate it greatly on previous bikes and
would love to go back to that design!

On Fri, Oct 27, 2017 at 9:03 AM, REC  wrote:

> I think you're considering the right bike for your application, but I have
> to say that I don't own a Clem, but a Joe Appaloosa (my first Riv and I
> LOVE it), as that one fit my needs better.
>
> However, if needed a bike for what you describe, I would have bought a
> Clem L.  If you're thinking Clem H, also consider a Joe Appaloosa.
> Gossamer on this board has a 58 cm one listed for sale and they come up for
> sale every so often.   I don't think you could go wrong with Clem L
> or either Clem or Joe looking for an "H".
>
> Roberta
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[RBW] Re: Thoughts/considerations for Clem as daily do-it-all bike?

[Tully Lanter]

Paul: great idea to visit Rivelo! The peace of mind plus an excuse to 
explore Portland sounds like a solid plan.

Will contact Riv directly in the meantime, and look forward to (presumably) 
getting on a Clem in the very near future! 

On Thursday, October 26, 2017 at 8:27:14 AM UTC-7, Tully Lanter wrote:
>
> Hi, all. I've had my eye on a Clem for a while now, and would appreciate 
> your take on whether it's a reasonable choice. 
>
>- 5'10", ~85cm PBH, presumably in need of a 52cm frame
>- Fairly short but steep daily commutes (in the Pacific NW., i.e., 
>hilly and wet) 
>- Occasional Costco runs and the like. Long chainstays are appealing 
>for the heavy loads and bumpy roads!
>- Random, long-ish distance rides on unpredictable routes. Pavement, 
>gravel, etc. in varying proportions. Bits of singletrack if I'm so 
> inclined.
>
> I'm drawn to the Clem's relaxed but not extreme geometry, total lack of 
> back-box components, and (relatively) accessible price point. All in all, 
> does it sounds like I'm barking up the right tree? 
>
> I'm inclined just to take the plunge on a secondhand Clem (if they're out 
> there...), but since even "cheap" Rivendells aren't cheap, I'd love to hear 
> your collective thoughts first!
>

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[RBW] Re: Thoughts/considerations for Clem as daily do-it-all bike?

[Tully Lanter]

Thanks, everyone, for the helpful feedback here. Sounds like a great match 
indeed! 

Very doubtful I could try one in advance, since there are not yet any Riv 
dealers here around Seattle. Will definitely chat with Rivendell about 
sizing, since my short-ish legs + long arms combined with Bosco bars makes 
for a non-obvious (to me) sizing solution. Thanks again.

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[RBW] Thoughts/considerations for Clem as daily do-it-all bike?

[Tully Lanter]

Hi, all. I've had my eye on a Clem for a while now, and would appreciate 
your take on whether it's a reasonable choice. 

   - 5'10", ~85cm PBH, presumably in need of a 52cm frame
   - Fairly short but steep daily commutes (in the Pacific NW., i.e., hilly 
   and wet) 
   - Occasional Costco runs and the like. Long chainstays are appealing for 
   the heavy loads and bumpy roads!
   - Random, long-ish distance rides on unpredictable routes. Pavement, 
   gravel, etc. in varying proportions. Bits of singletrack if I'm so inclined.

I'm drawn to the Clem's relaxed but not extreme geometry, total lack of 
back-box components, and (relatively) accessible price point. All in all, 
does it sounds like I'm barking up the right tree? 

I'm inclined just to take the plunge on a secondhand Clem (if they're out 
there...), but since even "cheap" Rivendells aren't cheap, I'd love to hear 
your collective thoughts first!

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