[RBW] Re: Where does the Rivendell Rambouillet fit in with other Rivs?
When I was at Riv I was told that the tubeset on the larger AHH and Rodeo were basically the same and the differences were in clearance and geometry. If true, I would think the weight would be about the same too. Cheers, cm On Wednesday, April 11, 2012 2:26:07 PM UTC-5, Michael_S wrote: From what I recall ( having owned a Ram) that the Ram and Hilsen were both made from the same wall thickness tubing ( 8-5-8). The Roadeo has thinner tubing from what I read. The Hilsen had better tire clearances. My Ram would only barely fit a Jack Brown in front w/o fender. The back would fit a 37mm Pasela. Some of the last Ram's had mid fork braze on's too. It was a great riding bike, the lack of clearance in front led to me selling it. ~mike On Wednesday, April 11, 2012 10:33:04 AM UTC-7, HappyCamper wrote: I thought the Rodeo was a direct decendant of the Ram but it seems like maybe the Ram was halfway between a Rodeo and a A Homer Hilsen? Is it just a Hilsen without good rack mounts? Does Rivendell keep an archive of older stuff somewhere on their site? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/gQDyk8zu2ekJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Rivendell folding bike?
I am pretty sure that the Bleriot was originally going to be an coupled/ breakaway bike travel bike- hence the airplane theme. I think this was mentioned briefly in the RR maybe sometime around 2003-- not totally sure though. I would guess with the cost of labor and parts, the bad economy, and the niche market for such a product it wont be happening any time soon. Cheers! cm -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/Ck8mgIndi5kJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Stem raisers
I would ask the mechanic what he sees that is so dire.. does he know what he is talking about or is he just concerned because it looks weird (and it does look weird). If he seems knowledgeable and his concerns seem valid maybe it would make sense to listen. If everything is being used the way it was made to be used-- stem inserted far enough, extension inserted far enough then I probably wouldnt worry about it. If the extension is homemade or old or aluminum (or worse old, homemade, and aluminum) then I might be a little more concerned. Bike Friday uses CRAZY long stem extensions and I have never seen or heard of a problem. Yes they are folding bikes and designed that way, but it is really the same thing. Any chance Nitto made the extension? If so, dontworry'boutit. Be careful, look for signs of early failure, and enjoy! Cheers! cm -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/bd8R-igX_vkJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: !st Rivendell - Thank You Forrest and Bikeman
Congrats? Pics? and how about some pics of the Green Mountain Loop too! I have actually done that loop twice-- clockwise and counterclockwise. Where are you starting? What direction you planning? If you have any questions, let me know. Happy riding! Cheers! cm -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/RrBCikYh1U4J. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Riv Branding
I like not having Rivendell on my Ram or Bleriot. I like that the graphics all go together without the need to put the company's name in big letters. I also think the graphics are much better on the non-Customer bikes than the custom-- who doesnt love airplanes, sheep, boats, etc? It helps make each model unique but recognizable. I think it promotes the idea that what they are selling is great bikes, not a great name. Cheers! cm -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/s1b4bB_iFAsJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: RE: [RBW] Re: CL Deal on 650b wheels with tires
I imagine selling a set of 650b's you'd get a lot of questions like will these fit my..?, are you sure that they are?, what brakes will?, etc, etc, etc. I would not want to spend my time answering these types of questions-- do your own homework. I think his attitude is ok for CL though would not be for a more bike-centric forum. He's probably a great guy. Cheers! cm ***I am not and never have been associated with the 650b wheel seller. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/pH_q6VlXeMcJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] SO/Quickbeam options
I dont think there is anything that compares to the SO without going custom (and the price difference would be substantial). I agonized over this for a few months before deciding on the custom. I have never had a custom bike and the SO was still on the horizon at the time. If i had know it would arrive when it did I probably would have ordered a SO instead. Think of the early adopters who paid $900 I dont see how anyone could be unhappy with a SO. Cheers! cm -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/PLdOcMRf-U4J. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: 52 rambouillet taking 26 wheels...can it be converted to 650b?
I have a 650b wheelset with Nifty Swiftys and a 50cm Ram. Do you want me to try to mount them? Cheers! cm -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Vermont Rides/Camping
My brother lives in Burlington-- might get my vote for the coolest city in the US. I have done a fair amount riding up there. You can camp in any of the National Forests-- pick a spot and go for it. You are supposed to be a 1/2 mile for the road (i think), but i usually go far enough so that i cant see/ hear cars and figure that is good. Other places are always a gamble-- is it private property, whose land is it, etc. Under bridges can be good if they are flat not exactly a good way to enjoy nature. At big farms i have friends who stop and ask if they can sleep in their field-- most have no problem with it. The other thing that i have done is sleep behind fire stations, behind churches, and down by the river. In my experience you are much better out of sight in the woods than in the open. Cheers! cm -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: The bike collection (or hoard?)
2003 Lemond Alpe d'Huez: steel frame, Kelly steel fork, mostly 105 2006 DaHon Solo: Bought on a whim. Fun folder that gets almost no use. Took the Brooks off it for another bike. Number 305 of 500. Need to sell. 1996 Trek 930: Bought new in the box in 2008. Alba bars, fenders, slicks, and racks. A great bike that cost me less than a cheap set of wheels. Only complaint is the 1 1/8 threaded steerer. 2009 Gary Fisher Triton: steel single speed gofast-ish. Should sell. 1996 Kona Explosiff: Set up as a tourer/ commuter. Too small but rode it across country in 2000 so nostalgia compels me to keep it 1960's Raleigh RSW: small wheeled folder made to compete with Moutlon. Prob weighs more than any two other bikes combined. Should find someone who wants it. Riv Bleriot- my go-to bike, the one that gets the most miles- take it unless it is going to be sitting outside for a prolonged period of time. Will never sell. Nishiki NFS: strange NOS 80's 650c wheeled frame and fork that i picked up for under $40. MUSA! Never been built up. Should sell. On the way: Terraferma custom: single speed. will prob replace the Triton. recently departed: Landshark, Waterford 2200, Wanta, DeBernardi, Bike Friday NWT, Trek 370, Univega Rover Cheers! cm -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: HS
I think an IGH bike makes the most sense and possibly even a Rohloff. What other IGH would you want to ride off road and take touring? And that would put a lot of restrictions on the bike. What else would there be left to choose? Brakes would be determined by whether the bike was set up for cant-, center, or v. Handlebars would need to be 25.4 (unless I am not aware of a road bar Rohloff shifter). That would also determine brake levers. So you are left with choosing the crank (maybe) and front wheel (unless he is planning dynamo)? Of course the handle thing is possible-- but that isnt anything really different, just another piece of metal (more triangles!). If I had a spare $4300 I'd be all in! Cheers! cm -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Market Prices for Riv Frames
You mean you have a new Glorius/ Wilbury hanging in your garage? Do you have any pics? These bikes seem to have just disappeared and attained an almost mythical status-- I knew a guy who knew a guy who once rode with a guy who had one. Cheers! cm On Jun 15, 10:31 am, Charlie cromano...@cox.net wrote: I don't post much but do have some comments here. I was talking last week with Rivendell about the purchase of a Betty Foy or the possibility of a custom Hunqapillar type mixte. I currently ride a 48 cm Hunqa and have an original never built 52cm mixte hanging in the rafters. I ride very upright and would like a little higher handlebar position than the Hunqa provides - thus the discussion about a 58 cm Betty or a custom mixte with a high handlebar position. I now have my doubts that the 52 mixte would provide any higher handle bar position than the Hunqa. Anyway - my point - Keven said if I sold the mixte not to take less than to $2000 - and also offered $1600 on a trade toward a custom - which is what I paid for it several years ago. Charlie PS: The mixte is not for sale. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Market Prices for Riv Frames
This is a great topic! I hate when people say it, but anything is worth what someone is willing to pay for it. When you have something that was mass-produced all of those individual transactions help form a market value. In some cases things can actually appreciate in value if the cost of a replacement has gone up and demand is high. I think your Bleriot is a great example. I know that I wouldn't sell a new Bleriot for $750 today if I had one in some magical basement. Rolex watches are a good example of used items appreciating in value. In the Ram case above, I dont think that it is so much that the price is too high compared to the new comparable models, but too high according to the value the market has established. If research vintage cars, you often find that people put way more into restoring a car than they could ever hope to get back selling it-- putting $15,000 into a VW Beetle that they would be lucky to get $5,000. No matter how nice, it is still a Beetle and people will only pay so much. I think that is what the Ram owner is facing-- yes it is a very very nice bike, but it is still a Ram. Cheers! cm -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Double Top Tube Sam Hillborne
As people have pointed out, there are valid reasons for wanting the undertube and there are valid reasons for not wanting the undertube. I think it basically comes down to this: If you like it, get it and if you don't like it, don't get it. That may sound too simple but you are one who is going to be riding it and why spend that much money on something you don't love? If not, save your pennies and get the AHH. Is there someone in your area who has one so you can see it in person? take it for a spin? That might make the decision for you. Cheers! cm -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Has anyone used trekking / butterfly bars on a Rivendell?
I have used the a bit too-- commuting, errands, and a few tours. I like them compared to flat bars but not compared to other options out there. To me they go up where they should go down and go down where I'd rather have them go up-- like an anti- Alba. The closest position felt like i was pushing a grocery cart, the far position felt like i was running with a stroller, and the outside position felt like I was steering a tractor. I like them more than that makes it sound. They are good utilitarian bars-- just not a favorite. Cheers! cm -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Simple dreaming
I was planning on a Simpleone and then started talking to a custom builder and for a few reason decided to go that direction. Going to be a similar style bike- single speed, room for comfy tires and fenders, canti posts. Pretty cool to pick out the tubes, lugs, drop outs, etc. A first for me. Here is my build. A mix of new and old bits. Headset: chris king 1’ threaded Seatpost: Nitto Humble Seat Post Stem: Nitto Technomic Handlebars: Nitto North Road Saddle: Brooks B17 Anitque Brown Brake levers: Shimano XTR Brakes: shimano xt v-brakes Cranks: white industries eno Bottom Bracket: phil wood Wheels: phil wood/ mavic open pro Freewheel: white industries Tires: roly poly 700x 28 Pedals: MKS Touring Cant wait to see all the SO's. Cheers! cm -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: How to print #43
When I click the link, I get a printer icon on the bottom of the page. Click the printer icon and a box opens asking if i would like to print the whole thing or specific pages. Click that and it prepares to print and then my printer box opens. Click print. Spec: Windows 7 Enterprise, Google Chrome. Chris On May 5, 9:44 am, PATRICK MOORE bertin...@gmail.com wrote: Any advice on how to print it? I can't get it to print beyond page one (and I've set the printer specs properly). Also, I don't see it on the Riv website: not in PDF format, yet? -- Patrick Moore Albuquerque, NM For professional resumes, contact Patrick Moore, ACRW patrickmo...@resumespecialties.com A billion stars go spinning through the night Blazing high above your head; But in you is the Presence that will be When all the stars are dead. (Rilke, Buddha in Glory) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: New Bleriot Owner; intro and some thoughts
I am pretty sure the very first reference to the Bleriot was as a coupled travel bike-- hence the name and airplane. I'd have to go back to the Readers to find it but am 99% it was in there (1% chance I dreamed this). Obviously it never happened and either they had the graphics and decals ready to go or they just decided they liked the name enough for a non-travel bike. Add me to the list of happy Bleriot owners-- and I think the graphics are some of Riv's best. Mine is still boxed after a recent move from Tucson to North Dakota-- yup North Dakota. Cheers! cm -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: What is that thing to the right of the fork crown?
I was thinking it is a decorative lug that would go on a tig'd bike could then still be considered lugged. Maybe the lower cost bike that has been discussed? With the wide fork crown it could be a do-it-all- everything bike. That would be awesome. Cheers! cm -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Bismarck, North Dakota
I recently moved from Tucson to Bismarck and was wondering if anyone out there is in this area or has any experience riding in the area. I know there are some bike paths around the city but was looking for other suggested rides. Any advice or comments are greatly appreciated. Cheers! cm -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Computers? No computers?
I am a sometimes-computer user. I dont really have an issue with not knowing the speed but not knowing the distance is tough for me. I usually go to mapmyride.com to get the distance. I am going to try to mount the computer to the seatpost but havent yet-- then I would have all the info after the ride but none of the distraction during the ride. Anyone tried this? Curious if wireless or cable would be the way to go. Could you use the back wheel? Cheers! cm -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Don't tell me that a few lbs don't make a bloody difference!
We are relative beings-- we compare our experiences to other experiences. Hot/cold, high/low, and light/heavy do not exist independently but only in relation to the other. Walk up a mountain with a 40 lb pack and then with a 10 lb pack-- betcha the 10 lb feels light and you feel faster. Now do it with no pack and then the 10 lber- feel heavy? slower? Here in Tucson it is usually only out-of- towners in the swimming pool in February when it is 70 degrees, the rest of us are in our winter jackets. There are countless examples of this. I think that weight matters-- though more to ourselves then to any concrete absolute. If Patrick rode a 10 lb race bike up the same hill I am sure his fast bike would feel not so fast. But that doesnt make the 10 lber a fast bike, it makes Patrick faster on it. If Patrick only rode the fast bike I would guess it would stop feeling fast as the experience of riding the slow (commuter) bike faded. Cheers! cm -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Rivendell Road on the Rillito River Park
Beautiful bike! Which bridge is that, Mountain? It was a beautiful day in Tucson. Cheers! cm -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Toyo versus Waterford Atlantis
I think there are too many unknowns here. All we get to do is look at the finished frame and speculate as to the quality we cant see. We don't get to see the tubes being mitered, prepped, brazed or anything else until it is done. We don't know the brazers or the amount of time they spend on each frame. I have no idea if the brazers at Toyo are as good as the brazers at Waterford and how those compare to the Maxway guys. Does anyone besides GP? So I take Riv's word that they are all good. Sure my Bleriot is not as fancy as my wife's Ram but there is no quality difference I can see and I have inspected the both pretty closely. Are the lugs less fancy? Is the paint not quite as nicely done? Yes and yes but I dont see those as quality differences in terms of how well the bike is built. I do feel like there is value in buying US made things, but after that it doesnt matter to me if they are made in Japan or Taiwan. I think that someone in Taiwan can braze just as well as someone in Japan who can braze just as well as someone in the US. I think Rivendell oversold the fact that their frames were made at Toyo and are having to overcome the idea that frames from other places (excluding Waterfrod/US) are inferior. Cheers! cm -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Was Toyo versus Waterford Atlantis - now shift to Taiwan question
Well, I don't remember the exact quote, but it was something along the lines of Toyo's fork curve being a home run while the curve done by Taiwan is a solid double. That quote was referencing the Bleriot fork it is from the comparison to the Saluki in RR37. It is probably true of the SH too. Here is page: http://www.cyclofiend.com/Images/rbw/rr37_pg15.jpg I think that a Riv(taiwan) is a Riv(toyo) is a Riv(waterford) but maybe not a Riv(custom). Cheers! cm -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Must-visit shops in Phoenix, Tucson?
Off the top of my head, the top shops in Tucson: 1. Ordinary Bike Shop 2. Arizona Bicycle Experts 3. Fair Wheel To be honest, I am not sure that any of them are MUST visit shops. They are great shops but I just am not sure they are destinations The only must visit shop to me is BICAS. Also, Andy Gilmour, who has been building bikes for 30+ years, is here and has a cool back room full of new frames along with his full shop. The Bicycle Brothel in Bisbee is amazing and might be worth the 2 hour drive alone, never mind the beautiful scenery and funky-artsy-mining town included at no extra charge. Call ahead to be sure you it will be open-- more than once I have longingly pressed my face up to the glass to look inside. There are some great shops here that focus more on the racing set and have some incredible bikes (Miles Ahead, Sabino, Arizona cyclist, etc)-- but incredible in an OT-carbon fiber kinda way. To me, Tucson is about riding. It is pretty incredible here and there are some amazing rides-- not sure you have the bike with you. If you are looking to rent there are shops that rent decent bikes (FairWheel and others). Cheers! cm -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Toyo versus Waterford Atlantis
I have seen several Waterford and Toyo built Rivs and the only obvious differences are the things you point out-- braze ons, color (Waterfords seem lighter/ millky). I would think any variation would come from the individuals who braze them-- not the factory they were brazed in. Cheers! cm -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: FS: Carradice Super C Saddlebag and Bagman QR Support
SOLD! Cheers! cm On Jan 5, 6:46 pm, Kevin Hu organicke...@gmail.com wrote: I'd like to get both, if they are still available. I can PayPal you. On Wed, Jan 5, 2011 at 5:06 PM, cm chrispmur...@hotmail.com wrote: Hello, I have a Carradice Super C Saddlebag and a Carradice Bagman QR Sport Support for sale. You can use them together, though the Bagman does make the bag bunch a little bit. They are both little used and I would describe them as in near- new condition. The bagman is amazing if you dont ride a Brooks saddle or dont like your legs to touch the saddlebag. Carradice Super C saddlebag- $70 shipped Carradice Bagman QR Sport- $40 shipped Both for $100 shipped in CONUS. All reasonable offers considered. Cheers! cm -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comrbw-owners-bunch%2Bunsubscrib e...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: New News Post
Totally into the health/diet stuff in a very outsider-looking-in-super amateur way. I have to disagree with the idea that it ISNT simple math; burn more than you take in to lose weight. I think the issue is how to you burn more than you eat. It is very difficult to starve yourself and eventually you crack-- maybe not today, and maybe not tomorrow, but And eating things that might kill you (lots of fat) seems risky too. When I was keeping track of how many miles i rode each year I used to marvel at the guys who got to 15-20,000. To me, the math didnt add up. That is 300 miles each weekend (gulp!). After talking to a bunch of them, I realized they werent riding double centuries every weekend, rather they were riding every single day or darn close to it. That was there secret. I used to suck at saving money and the more I tried the worse it got. I would put large portions of a paycheck away and then have to charge my way through the next two weeks undoing any good that the savings accomplished. Eventually i figured out that saving small amounts of money each week (almost insignificant sums at times) added up. For me, the big realization was that you dont get to 15,000 miles or $50,000 dollars overnight, just like you dont lose 30 pounds in a week. You arent going to get skinny by running a marathon or riding a double century. You will get skinny by eating less than you burn. It might take longer (10 calories less per day is about a pound a year) but it is important to realize that we didnt get fat overnight either. Most of us gained a pound or two a year starting at about 18. Eat more of the things you know are healthy (dont come in a plastic wrapper) and do something most days. Just my perspective. Cheers! cm -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Tucson Area Ride Suggestions?
Welcome to Tucson! Been here almost 5 years and love it. What part of town are you in? There are quite a few dirt roads north of town heading to Oracle. You could probably ride out there forever. The road that heads out to the 24 hours in the Old Pueblo course goes over some hills and i think it reaches a spring eventually (never been out that far). There are also some dirt roads south of town headed toward the Santa Ritas-- old vail road is dirt i believe. Also some dirt roads in the middle of town, pretty much between Campbell and Oracle Rd. Along with those are some trials/ roads that link up with the bike path and Fantasy Island. I use google maps to map things out and then see how it goes. Mt Lemmon is a great ride and cars are pretty respectful. There are way too many cyclists up there to not be. Swing by the Safeway on Tanque Verde and Mt. Lemmon Highway some weekend morning and you will be astounded at the number of cyclists It isnt that steep honestly it is just long. Bring plenty of water as there isnt any until Summerhaven and in the summer there isnt any until Palisades. I have never had an issue on that road.I think it is scarier going down at 40+ and sweeping turns. There are also some dirt roads and trails on Mt Lemmon that may be worth checking out. There is also an old dirt road up the back side of Mt Lemmon called the Control Road. It starts in Oracle and ends just before Summerhaven. I have not done it, but hope to soon. Reddington Road also loops around the Catalinas and would make a great long day or overnight. All of the roads are god for riding. Be sure to get over to Saguaro National Park East and ride the 8 mile loop road. Gates Pass on the west side of town is another great ride, though one that you want to be a little more careful about traffic. Hope this helps. Cheers! cm -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: 1 1/8 quill stem needed
I was on the search for one of these last year. This is the in-between step from 1 inch quill to 1 1/8 ahead. I think they were made for about two weeks in 1996. The best option I found was at Nashbar. The quill isnt that long but the angle is almost vertical. http://www.nashbar.com/bikes//Product_10053_10052_174788_-1___ The other option is to go custom-- but that gets pricey. If you do find another option, let me know. Cheers! cm On Dec 16, 10:53 am, Kelly Sleeper tkslee...@gmail.com wrote: Trying to come up with a replacement stem and moustache bars.. 1 1/8th diamater and need about 11 cm stem.. so looks like I need to come 23 cm up from head tube and 11 cm out. or dirt drop of some kind to lessen the amount of quill showing.. either way. the adjustable zoom that is on here sucks! Can not get it tight enough to not move up and down on the ratchet. Ideas? Thanks Kelly https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/_cbgkam1RH_k/TQpQ1TaDEvI/AB... https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/_cbgkam1RH_k/TQpQ2HrFz8I/AB... -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Who makes inexpensive custom quill stems?
I would search Ebay for something longer/ taller. I dont imagine there is a lot of demand for these stems, so I imagine they go pretty cheap. here is an example: http://cgi.ebay.com/New-Uno-Bike-Quill-Stem-130mm-15-for-1-1-4-HS-Purple_W0QQitemZ360246210726QQcategoryZ22694QQcmdZViewItem (sorry no tiny url) I have a bike with a threaded 1 1/4 and had a tough time finding something good enough. Good Luck! Cheers! cm On Dec 8, 3:49 pm, James Valiensi valie...@mac.com wrote: Hi, You could use an adapter to run a standard quill stem in your 1-1/4 fork. I've made them before. Cheers! On Dec 8, 2010, at 6:24 AM, Ginz wrote: Might be cheapest to replace the fork. :) On Dec 7, 9:10 pm, Earl Grey earlg...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, I have a 1990 Fisher Sphinx monster cross in addition to my Sam that is getting more and more rivvish by the year, but is a size too small. Since the Fisher has a 1 1/4 (!) threaded steerer, finding tall (or any) replacement stems is nigh impossible. I bought a Nitto threaded to threadless converter, but it is disgracefully short, and thus doesn't solve the problem. Seems like a custom 1 1/4 quill stem or selling the frame are the only options. Anyone have any recommendations for a frame builder that makes inexpensive custom quill stems? (It's a cheap frame, so I don't want to throw $200 at the problem.) I could supply a donor quill if that is an issue... Thanks, Gernot PS: Here is a pic:http://www.flickr.com/photos/25150...@n08/5242295929/ With 35 degree, 110mm stem porteur bars are too low and too close, and Noodles or Moustaches are too low and too far away. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. James Valiensi, PE Northridge, CA H818.775.1847 M.818.585.1796- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Filed down Sugino XD2
A ridiculous reply? So you are saying that a product that was made a certain way by the manufacture and then manipulated in an unknown way, by an unknown party is perfectly safe-- or safe enough? and IF the filing job was done well (and how would we know this?). And that aluminum fails with plenty of warning? Steel tends to creak and crack, but aluminum? H...not so sure about that. My reasoning is that there are too many unknowns. I don't think it is fair to compare Peter Weigle to some unknown person with a file. If it is ridiculous to state my opinion that I would not ride a crank altered by an unknown party in an unknown fashion to save $80, then I sincerely apologize for my ridiculousness. If the crank were steel I would certainly withdraw my ridiculous comments. Cheers! cm I have to say this is a ridiculous reply. You offer no reasoning except FUD. For crying out loud, the crank is a big chunk of solid aluminum. It's had a small part of that big chunk removed and you are suggesting it is a ticking time bomb without any facts to support why. Puh-leeze. For the original poster, consider as BOBish types we typically appreciate that metal does not instantaneously fail without warning. It gives plenty of warning either through audible creaking, parts that won't stay torqued, visible fracturing, and/or flexing under stress. Also, Peter Weigle had no qualms about filing down a set of cranks:http://www.flickr.com/photos/49353...@n00/4986547021/in/set-721576253... If the filing job was done well so that all four sides of the taper are equal and going to engage the spindle roughly the same, I'd not be overly concerned. -Allan On Nov 30, 5:13 pm, cm chrispmur...@hotmail.com wrote: I wouldnt ride it-- but that is me. Totally sucks but if you arent sure, that should decide it for you. What is the cost if it fails? and worse...if you end up getting hurt people are gonna say Well, what did he expect .. Better to be safe than toothless. Cheers! cm On Nov 30, 9:34 am, Travis travisbreitenb...@gmail.com wrote: From the way it is filed, I also wouldn't be afraid of installing it and using it as is. The big concern for me would be how badly it affects your chain line, if it does at all. If it looks alright, I would ride it for a few days, tighten it up a second time, and go with it. Don't take it touring or camping for a while, just ride it locally - I don't think it would fail catastrophically, just loosen slightly at worst, so you'll still be able to get home - and I bet you'll forget about it after a while and feel confident enough to take it on long trips. Cranksets are expensive and I'm sure this has been an upsetting experience, so do yourself a favor and ride it for a while before plunking that extra money down on a replacement. Also, the square taper system is simple and overbuilt - until recently it was standard practice for people to force older TA cranksets onto modern bottom brackets with the wrong taper and I know at least one person who toured with his distorted TA crankset for years and even moved it to different bikes! Best of luck! On Nov 29, 3:39 pm, lauren laurench...@gmail.com wrote: This spring I bought two used Sugino XD2 triples advertised on this list to put on a Hunqapillar and a Rawland Drakkar i knew we'd be getting in the fall. I'm still waiting on the Hunqapillar, but I took out the crankset to build up the Drakkar that arrived last weekend to find that it had been filed down on the inside. My fault, for not asking for photos beforehand, I suppose, but I'm wondering if it's safe to use. I contacted the seller and he said he didn't know it had been filed down. Photos here:http://www.flickr.com/photos/otterbean/sets/72157625369398923/with/52... Soliciting opinions: Is it okay to use or should we get another? Comparing it to my other, perfectly intact XD2, it looks like about 3-4 mm has been filed off the inside and a little bit into the square hole has been filed away as well meaning that a lot less surface area is contacting the surface area than would usually do so (that's my guess at least). We put it on and it seems to fit snug for riding around town, but I can't decide whether it would hold up to harder riding (the rider is ~185 lbs). I know we should just buy another one, but we're already scraping the bottom of the barrel to build these bikes up so if I can safely make use of my $80 spent then all the better. Any insight/ideas much appreciated. Thanks, Lauren ps. If anyone has a triple right XD2 175 mm crank arm they'd like to sell let me know.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu
[RBW] Re: Filed down Sugino XD2
I wouldnt ride it-- but that is me. Totally sucks but if you arent sure, that should decide it for you. What is the cost if it fails? and worse...if you end up getting hurt people are gonna say Well, what did he expect .. Better to be safe than toothless. Cheers! cm On Nov 30, 9:34 am, Travis travisbreitenb...@gmail.com wrote: From the way it is filed, I also wouldn't be afraid of installing it and using it as is. The big concern for me would be how badly it affects your chain line, if it does at all. If it looks alright, I would ride it for a few days, tighten it up a second time, and go with it. Don't take it touring or camping for a while, just ride it locally - I don't think it would fail catastrophically, just loosen slightly at worst, so you'll still be able to get home - and I bet you'll forget about it after a while and feel confident enough to take it on long trips. Cranksets are expensive and I'm sure this has been an upsetting experience, so do yourself a favor and ride it for a while before plunking that extra money down on a replacement. Also, the square taper system is simple and overbuilt - until recently it was standard practice for people to force older TA cranksets onto modern bottom brackets with the wrong taper and I know at least one person who toured with his distorted TA crankset for years and even moved it to different bikes! Best of luck! On Nov 29, 3:39 pm, lauren laurench...@gmail.com wrote: This spring I bought two used Sugino XD2 triples advertised on this list to put on a Hunqapillar and a Rawland Drakkar i knew we'd be getting in the fall. I'm still waiting on the Hunqapillar, but I took out the crankset to build up the Drakkar that arrived last weekend to find that it had been filed down on the inside. My fault, for not asking for photos beforehand, I suppose, but I'm wondering if it's safe to use. I contacted the seller and he said he didn't know it had been filed down. Photos here:http://www.flickr.com/photos/otterbean/sets/72157625369398923/with/52... Soliciting opinions: Is it okay to use or should we get another? Comparing it to my other, perfectly intact XD2, it looks like about 3-4 mm has been filed off the inside and a little bit into the square hole has been filed away as well meaning that a lot less surface area is contacting the surface area than would usually do so (that's my guess at least). We put it on and it seems to fit snug for riding around town, but I can't decide whether it would hold up to harder riding (the rider is ~185 lbs). I know we should just buy another one, but we're already scraping the bottom of the barrel to build these bikes up so if I can safely make use of my $80 spent then all the better. Any insight/ideas much appreciated. Thanks, Lauren ps. If anyone has a triple right XD2 175 mm crank arm they'd like to sell let me know.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Filed down Sugino XD2
On Nov 29, 12:39 pm, lauren laurench...@gmail.com wrote: I think they call that empirical testing. I hope that when it fails it fails at a convenient time and not when your face, teeth, naughty bits, or life could be in jeopardy. Me, I'd take the loss and replace it. Cheers! cm -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: My first new Rivendell (ok Hillborne)
I would think cantis are much more powerful-- especially if they have longer arms. One respected brake maker recommends against putting their cantis on lighter weight frames as the stopping power can ruin the frame. That is impressive. I'd like to see that. I see the +'s and -'s to both. In the end I prefer v-brakes if only cuz cantis always seem so darn fickle. Cheers! cm On Nov 30, 9:37 pm, Earl Grey earlg...@gmail.com wrote: I have to agree with Jim Thill that V-brakes are more powerful than cantis, but I think that is one reason to *stay away* from them unless you do a lot of steep downhill single track, where hand-fatigue from braking can become a real issue. More power = less modulation, all other things being equal. One data point: My 100 lb ex-girlfriend was riding her V-brake non-suspension Cannondale mtn bike in the park, going slow on a slight down slope (10-12mph?) and casually reached for her brakes to slow down a bit. A second later she found herself on the pavement, having gone over the bars as the front brake had locked up. Her brakes were properly set up. A brake that is so powerful that it can lock up a wheel when you are simply trying to slow very gently is at least as dangerous as a brake that requires white knuckles to lock up the wheel. In addition to being driven by ease of set-up, reduced costs, and trying to convince people that what they bought two years ago isn't good enough anymore, too much bike innovation is developed for the lunatic road- or downhill-racing fringe, and may actually be a step in the wrong direction for transportation/smell the roses type cyclists. Just my 2 Thai Baht, Gernot On Nov 30, 11:58 pm, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery thill@gmail.com wrote: Making build-ups faster is certainly a consideration. But I disagree that the refinements in bicycle and component design are not, in fact, genuine improvements. Here's my take on how these examples represent improvements for the end-user: V-brakes: A lot of people seem to be saying that cantilevers have stopping power that's comparable to that of v-brakes, provided that the set-up is correct. This has never been my observation, as v-brakes have always seemed much more powerful to me. I concede that I may not know the secrets to canti set-up, though I have done it many, many times, usually for money. For my own bikes, I was a canti-fan up until the last year or so, and I used them all. Now I'm all about v-brakes. outboard BB bearings: there's no point in considering these bearings except as part of the modern crank/bb assembly. The outboard positioning of the bearings allow for a larger bearing with the wider spacing reducing the force on each bearing. This should represent added stiffness and durability and perhaps reduced weight, which may or may not be relevant to the end-user. Aside from that, the entire assembly can be disassembled and serviced with an 5mm wrench and a Park BBT-9 tool. These are much easier to use (and harder to screw up) than a thread-in crank puller and the splined BB tool (plus big wrench or ratchet) that is required for the older Shimano UN series square- taper cartridge BBs. Consider chain suck. With the modern style of crank, it is a simple matter to loosen the crank with a 5mm wrench to extract the chain without further damaging the paint on the chainstay. With square taper systems, I have had times where I would have been stranded if I wasn't compulsive about carrying lots of tools, like a crank puller and 8mm allen wrench, for example... Threadless headsets: Again, ease of adjustment with common tools is a big one for me. I've had loosening threaded headsets on long rides...where did I put those headset spanners again? I also much prefer a 9/8 threadless set-up for the added stiffness when I have a heavy front load. I still use bikes with threaded/quill arrangements because I have them and they're fine for most of my riding, but if I'm buying a new bike, I consider threadless to be a significant advantage. Aesthetically, I think both are fine, but I came of age with bikes after threaded headsets and clamp-on stems were commonplace. compact frames: If the bike fits and rides well, then it doesn't matter unless you're attached to a certain look as being correct. I have come to prefer traditional designs, because they make for a bigger triangle to accommodate my 40oz water bottles, various frame bags, etc. I have often noticed that older bikes, say a 1970s/80s touring bike or a 1950s 3-speed are more similar to modern bikes than they are dissimilar. I could have a grand time riding a 50-year-old 3-speed across the continent. Older equipment and older technologies work as well now as they ever did. And if certain aesthetics or certain nostalgic leanings are important to a cyclist, and the parts are still available, there's no reason to not be retro
[RBW] Re: Birthday Day
I wear a helmet all the time for everything; cycling, walking, running, napping, reading, driving, hiking. I just feel better knowing my head is always safe. Non-helmet wearers scare me. Cheers! cm -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Name changes for Rivendell brands and models?
I think about 4-5 years ago Grant posted that the lawyers called and said that they may have some issues with the names. The gist was if the bikes/products had the names BEFORE the movie (like Rivendell) they were ok, if the names came AFTER the movies, then they were not ok. If i remember correctly he said the Legolas was definitely out and the Quickbeam was questionable. I would guess that the name changes are to be on the safe side. I would guess impending lawsuits/ threats of lawsuits takes the fun away a little bit and they decided why not just leave the LOTR thing alone as much as possible. Cheers! cm -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Why doesn't Riv reissue some bag classics?
I had a few of the older bags and have a few of the newer bags. To me, the new bags blow the socks off the old bags. Everything about them is better. So why go back? Cheers! cm -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Two posts on our site
Nitto Humble post and saddlesack xs. Been itching to buy the post and 'sack. What better time than now? Cheers! cm On Oct 30, 6:40 am, Angus angusle...@sbcglobal.net wrote: Thanks for the reminder John...order placed. On Oct 29, 12:46 pm, John Bennett johnat...@gmail.com wrote: We've had a super slow week, and yesterday was the slowest day of all. Grant wrote this last night: http://www.rivbike.com/blogs/knothole_post/303 Dave thought of this a little while ago: http://www.rivbike.com/blogs/news_post/304 As Grant said, If you plan to buy something anyway and we have ithope to hear from you. Cheers, John -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: worlds collide part two
I see this as a reaction against the big players (Shim, Camp, and Sram). I believe there was a posting on the site that said it wouldnt be too long before everything was 10 speed and 10 speed doesnt play well with others. I think going to a smaller company who is looking to be a player and working with them BEFORE we are all trolling 'bay like addicts for 5- 9 speed components is very smart. Hopefully this will create a nice market for market for Microshift who will invest in their products. Seems like this approach has worked well with components-- brakes come to mind. Cheers! cm -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] For whom does this bell toll? (or: Anyone want a free bell?)
Recent post about the bell for sale reminded me that I have the handlebar mounted bell from Riv with the springy-dinger thing in my parts box. Up for grabs if anyone wants it. Here is the catch: it is in a box of parts and I have to find it and mail it so it might not be the speediest delivery but it will come, oh yes it will come. Cheers! cm -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: For whom does this bell toll? (or: Anyone want a free bell?)
the bell has been claimed. Thanks, cm On Oct 18, 11:25 am, cm chrispmur...@hotmail.com wrote: Recent post about the bell for sale reminded me that I have the handlebar mounted bell from Riv with the springy-dinger thing in my parts box. Up for grabs if anyone wants it. Here is the catch: it is in a box of parts and I have to find it and mail it so it might not be the speediest delivery but it will come, oh yes it will come. Cheers! cm -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Rivendell in Twin Cities Metrotransit brochure?
bleriot. I think it is the mayor's or maybe it was some other city official-- i forget. Cheers! cm -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Tent advice needed for S24O?
Big Agnes Fly Creek or Seedhouse are great tents Cheers, cm -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Tent advice needed for S24O?
I am the one who posted about the Megamid in the previous post. It is a great tent and incredibly versatile, but I wouldn't want it as my only tent. I much prefer a traditional, double wall (separate tent and rain fly), free-standing tent as my go-to. If you get the footprint there are lots of pitching options. I have worked in the outdoor industry for a while and in my experience most tents are very good quality-- probably better than most people need. I think there is a big difference between lightweigt and ultra-lite-- very much like bikes. Shop smart -- lighweight comes at a cost (cheap, light, durable--- pick two). There also seem to be a little bit of a price war over the last few years with companies trying to have the best entry level tent. These tents are made out of great materials, great quality, smart/ simple set-up and at great prices. Marmot, Sierra Designs, Eureka, Big Agnes come to mind as great values. I really like Marmot's lower priced tents. That said, the Big Agnes Seedhouse 2 and Seedhouse 2 UL (discontinued/ replaced with the Fly Creek 2 i believe) is the bees-knees for lightweight, packable, reasonably priced, and free-standing tents. Cheers! cm -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: RB1 and sackville Sacks.....
My feeling is you are asking for problems, but it will probably be fine. The rear wheel seems like the bigger concern to me. Whats the rim, spoke count, hub? I once did a week long tour with my steel Lemond towing 50-70 lbs with no problems at all (I weigh about 150 lbs). You do see a lot of old steel out there touring with full panniers-- and I mean OLD steel. Great bike, looks great. Cheers! cm( -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Which bars are on the Hunqa in this video?
Pretty sure those are the Alba's. They cant be the Dove cuz they have bar end shifters. Cheers! cm -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: For Trade: Nitto Seatpost for Stem
How did you end up with an extra seatpost? hm... On Sep 30, 10:45 am, Johnny Alien johnnyal...@verizon.net wrote: I made a mistake and ended up with a seatpost when I need a stem. What I have is a brand new Nitto Crystal Fellow Seatpost. Never installed. http://www.rivbike.com/products/show/nitto-crystal-fellow-seatpost-27... What I need is a Nitto stem. Preferably a deluxe. Smaller reach would be better. (8 or 9). Used is fine too as long as it's not severely scratched up. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Hillborne Double Toptuber Photos
I love the look of this bike. I am hoping to get one before they go away/change (all good things seem to). Did you wrap each side of the bars with two pieces of tape and meet at the brake? Thanks for the great pics! Cheers! cm On Sep 29, 5:11 pm, Bryan @ Renaissance Bicycles renaissancebicyc...@gmail.com wrote: As we alluded to previously, the double toptube Waterford Sam Hillborne has now been transformed into a complete bike: http://www.renaissancebicycles.com/gallery/rb-gallery-1/ And this bike is actually our new Shop demo bike. We built it with some lightly knobby Continental tires, Nitto Albatross bars, and a 10- speed Shimano 105 drivetrain. This particular frame is a 56cm frame. And although it is meant for customers to ride, it is for sale. As you might guess the ride is sublime; the second toptube does laterally stiffen up the bike (not that it was floppy before), and the canti brakes are a good choice. As per usual, just good stuff. Just let me know if you have any questions about the double toptube version or about the build of the bike. Cheers! Bryan -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Speaking of the garage sale,
I definitely can see how it wouldn't be worth it to sell the stuff online. Its the pictures. The pictures that made me wish I could rummage through all that great looking stuff-- even if it was only virtual rummaging. It's those darn pictures. I do hope to make it to WC someday-- though i am pretty sure it isnt going to be Saturday. Cheers! cm On Sep 28, 5:40 am, John Bennett johnat...@gmail.com wrote: CM: While we would like to do a Virtual Garage Sale, the reality is that it would probably be impossible. To be fair to the Virtual Buyers, the sort of stuff that we sell at the Actual Garage Sale would require extensive photographs; written descriptions; determinations and disclaimers about the condition, variations, and imperfections of the items; the creation of new part numbers, etc., and other inestimable considerations to make it as fair and customer-friendly to you, and as manageable as possible for us. A lot of this stuff really requires in-person inspection, and even then, we have to stick to our All Sales Final policy. Doing it online, and asking for the same no return deal, could get sticky in ways that we don't feel comfortable with. We do post Web Specials. We have Frame Specials. Thank you for understanding. Come on out sometime! All the best, John at RBW HQ On Sep 27, 6:27 pm, cm chrispmur...@hotmail.com wrote: Maybe once, just once, one time for all of us who arent in the WC RBW WHQ vicinity, they could do a virtual garage sale. Too much of a pain? Maybe, but come onjust one time. Riv is an internet/mail order business, right? We are its internet/ mail order customers, right? (said in the nicest, most pleading way possible-- basically begging). There just looks to be so much good mysterious stuff in all those piles. Cheers! cm -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Speaking of the garage sale,
Maybe once, just once, one time for all of us who arent in the WC RBW WHQ vicinity, they could do a virtual garage sale. Too much of a pain? Maybe, but come onjust one time. Riv is an internet/mail order business, right? We are its internet/ mail order customers, right? (said in the nicest, most pleading way possible-- basically begging). There just looks to be so much good mysterious stuff in all those piles. Cheers! cm -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Riv-Related Photos
Great Pics. Looks like a great ride. I see you have an Element. My bike and I have spent many nights in my Element. Best bike car ever? Cheers! cm -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: simpleone sample
Not sure if the one on the site has the magic dropouts, but the complete sample that came in a few weeks ago did. Same neat-unique Quickbeam dropout that allows that. http://www.rivbike.com/assets/payloads/352/original_aug28knothole.pdf Cheers! cm -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] More SimpleOne Samples
One of each size 58cm, 60cm, 62cm prototype SimpleOne frame, fork, headset maroon paint $800 for cantilever brakes and 700c wheels. http://www.rivbike.com/products/show/quickbeamsimpleone-specials/53-011 WOW! Cheers! cm -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Tent suggestions
I also highly recommend the Black Diamond Megamid in the tarp category. It is HUGE and LIGHT. I have the option floor too. It is big enough that I bring my bike and trailer in the tent with me and it is totally comfortable-- it is that big. You can string it over a branch if you can find a suitable location or use a stick or collapsible pole. I have woken up with the occasional creature in the tent but nothing too serious (mostly squirrels) and that is part of the fun, right? Cheers! cm -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Tent suggestions
This is a tough question. I've worked in the outdoor industry for the last 10 years. Here is what I would say: 1) freestanding or non-freestanding 2) tent or Tarp? 3) find a style you like-- the basic shape you want. Look at things like the shape of the floor, the angle of the walls (steeper= less headroom) 4) If at all possible, set them up and climb in them. No good shop should blink at setting up 5-10 tents for you. 5) Pay attention to fabrics. Lighter weight often means less durable. There are good places to use ultralight fabrics on a tent and there are bad places. 6) Pay attention to set-up. How many poles? How many different size poles? Ask yourself if this is something that you would want to do after a long day of riding and in the rain. 7) What are the poles made out of? I think alum is best choice. Depending on what you are looking for, you should be able to get a killer tent from a great company for under $250. I bought a Marmot Skylight for $189 that we use for touring. It replaced a similar North Face tent that lasted more than a decade of hard (read: careless) use. Use a footprint. Buying the footprint from the manufacturer will give you some pitching options, or you can use a sheet of plastic. I have heard of people even using housewrap. Once you have an idea what you want, look at the Gear Guide (Backpacker is a good place to start). Be weary of reviews, both in that mag and online. They def have an agenda. Cheers! cm On Sep 13, 1:33 pm, nathan spindel nath...@gmail.com wrote: What's your favorite two-person tent for bike camping? I'm looking for a tent that's somewhat light ( 5 lbs?), warm enough for most California spring/summer/fall nights, and sets up easily. -nathan -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: FS: 62cm Red Legolas
I think they did 2 runs of'em and that was it. Not 100% though. Cheers! cm -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Dogwalker
Dave Craig wrote: I was really tempted to post on this topic. Instead, I'll offer the observation that I can see this discussion devolving into something possibly not appropriate or productive for this group. +1-- My sentiments exactly. Is there a dog walking group? Cheers! cm -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Painted Hunqua
...am I missing something? Cheers! cm On Sep 3, 7:43 am, William tapebu...@gmail.com wrote: I just saw Macbeth, too. Out, damned spot (of Vivian-handling)! On Sep 3, 4:24 am, jamison brosseau jamison.bross...@gmail.com wrote: its funny those little differences. In fact My AHH was delivered to me by Vivian, my at home ups driver, as was my atlantis, and my bombadil i received at work, so keith my at work ups driver delivered that bike. Keith is Vivians immediate boss, and all around he is a better driver than vivian, i suppose that is why he is the shift leader. anyway, seeing as how keith is better than vivian it makes sense that the bombadil is a better bike, i just enjoy it more knowing it was in the caring hands of keith, while the ahh and atlantis both seem tainted to me as they were temporarily cared for by Vivian. in two seconds im going to get on my ahh and ride to work, i dread the moment i have to swing my leg over a bike delivered by an inferior ups driver, i mean i could have just had it delivered to work, and then maybe i would have enjoyed it some. i guess im just a self loather. what should i do, maybe i should stop concentrating on the minute differences and just ride my bike they are all rivendells and are supposed to have excellent handling attention to detail and a great ride. or perhaps i should further differentiate my bikes from those around me, convincing myself of their superiority or in the vivian's bikes cases inferiority. perhaps i can come up with some syllogisms (sp) bikes made in wisconsin are superior to bikes made in japan my bikes are made in wisconsin my bikes are superor sorry vivian, jamison brosseau On Sep 2, 10:06 pm, Rene Sterental orthie...@gmail.com wrote: I will agree that the diagonal tube has always puzzled me and I didn't like the fact that it wasn't going all the way to the rear dropouts. On Monday, when I went to pick up the Betty I saw the unpainted prototype up close with wheels on. It has more clearance than the Bombadil so the Big Apples 2.3 didn't seem like they were too close to the seat stays. I can't say that I really like it, but I can't say that I really dislike it either. With the Bombadil I had no trouble getting used to the double top tubes and found them really handy to lift the bike into/out of the train. I imagine the diagonal tube can help in the same manner. I don't really like the gray color either, I somehow think that the Rivendells shine in the more pastel colors. I am blown away by the Waterford AHH blue and the Waterford Atlantis green. I was able to compare side by side on the train a Toyo Atlantis against mine, and while not as different as the AHH blue, the Waterford is still more creamy and has the same feeling of magic depth that the Waterford blue has for me. The gray definitely doesn't do it for me. :-) I think that with my current stable I'm set for a very long time (Homer, Altantis Betty) so I'll be watching the evolution of the Rivendell frames for the time being. One thing is for sure... no one can stay indifferent to the Rivendell bikes! René -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: 1 Toptube or 2 -- Comparing the Two Versions of the Hillborne
I really like to double TT. I liked it when brought it in on the bigger bikes and like the function of it. I like it even more on the smaller bikes (56 SH) where it could be argued that there is no real function. What's cooler than a few extra lugs and a spare tt? I also really like that Waterford is making'em. Cheers! cm -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: 1982 Bridgestone Atlantis
...but how is it appropriate to this list, please? 1) Made by Bridgestone- the company that Grant used to work for 2) Has been discussed in depth in several RR 3) Has a direct link to the Riv Atlantis, so much so that the Riv has a 2 on it (this is the 1, right?) 4) Obviously influenced Grants thinking about bikes and bike design 5) Pretty sure it shares lugs with other later B-stone models that also influenced Riv designs (X0?) Thanks for pics! A beautiful bike. Cheers! cm -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: 1 Toptube or 2 -- Comparing the Two Versions of the Hillborne
I dont think calling it a crappy fork is fair. I have a Bleriot (obviously Taiwanese) and I dont think there is a crappy thing about it. Riv had supply problems with taiwan and needed another builder. G goes into it in some detail on the site. Seems like a new builder would be a great time to try some things you've been thinking of tryin', like a double top tube and canti's-- especially if it is a temporary arrangement. I dont think it makes one bike better than the other, just a little different. It does stink that it makes you think less of your bike and I can certainly understand that-- but at the end of the day it is the same great bike it was when you bought it. Would I trade my Bleriot for a double- TT, waterford SH? In a second with no hesitation but that doesn't make me less happy with my bike. If it did I would sell it to fund the SH. The Saluki came with different brakes. So did the Rom. The Atlantis has changed some over the years. Some customs were made by Richard Sachs (drool!), Brakes change, braze ons change, kickstand plates get added, some bikes get a bonus TT, some get a diagon-apillar, some made by maxway, some by toyo, some by waterford-- but they are all Rivs and all great bikes. Cheers, cm -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Who's making the Betty?
Now that the Hunqa and SH are being listed as USA and Japan made, I was wondering if the Taiwan shop was still building for Riv and if they are still making the Betty. If they are, how come this bike and not the others? I would guess they dont sell the quantity of BF's that they sell of the others so stock is still good-- but that is just a guess. Anyone know for sure? Is Waterford secretly making the BF? Cheers! cm -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Painted Hunqua
Photos of the painted Hunqua are up on Riv. http://www.rivbike.com/assets/payloads/354/original_HUNQA_AUG_30_site.pdf WOW! It looks awesome. I was definitely anti-diagonal when it was suggested and was disappointed when they decided to go for it. Now I have to admit that I was wrong, it looks great and I am dreaming and scheming. Any other crossovers out there? Cheers! cm -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Review Instructions for Snobbish Nitto SP-60 Seat Post
With a seat post, I stick it on there and never adjust it again. So why not look cool? And I doubt NItto would make a bad product, and it reminds me of bikes I had when i was a kid, and I think it looks like a post that was made to do a specific job without trying to look streamlined or modern or like a piece or art (it is, after all, just something to hold your saddle in place). I think of it a lot like I think of the lugs on my bike. Cheers! cm -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Renovelo Frames
Here IT is! http://www.rivbike.com/products/show/renovelo-frames/40-029 WOW! Someone please buy this, build it up, post pics, and ride it like crazy! Cheers! cm -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Review Instructions for Snobbish Nitto SP-60 Seat Post
I love the way this post looks. This is my new favorite seat post. All others now seem inferior. Great Pics. Thanks James! Cheers! cm -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Renovelo Frames
First of'em posted on riv.com. Cant wait to see them. Cheers! cm -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Some comparative biking data
What i think is even most interesting is that the bike you ride when you want to keep up (which i take to mean go fast) isn't the fastest. I think that the type of riding you do on a bike would have more to do with the average speed than the weight of the bike itself. If I rode my go-fast bike to get groceries I would anticipate my average speed would be about 1/2 of what it is on a group ride. This isn't due to the bike but the task. If I had a heavier bike I only rode downhill I would expect the average speed to be higher than on lighter bikes over mixed terrain. Looking at your numbers, it seems like either your go-fast bike is slowing you down(fit?), the group is slower than you are (those your are keeping up with), or the some other intangible (type of riding, terrain) is affecting the numbers. I am betting it is not the weight of the bikes-- or only to a very small degree. Cheers! cm -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Unicycle Touring... (Rivendell News 7/29/2010)
About 10 Readers back Grant mentioned a special run of lugged Rivendell unicycles. They were going to be made by Toyo and possibly have 650b wheels. Maybe this was a joke? I would love to have one. While I dont think unicycling is great transport, it is fun. It is a totally different feeling than riding a bike with 2 wheels-- like i imagine flying would feel. So I get it, but unicyle touring? No thanks. Cheers, cm -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Wanted: very small Rivish/bobish bike (42-45cm seat-tube)
I would try to find a shop with a 42cm Surly Long Haul Trucker (LHT). If it is a good fit, she could probably cannibalize her Gary Fisher and end up with a new bike in the $400 range. B/B/S (beg/borrow/ steal) any parts that she is missing. I have had good luck with the i need this part posts. Cheers! cm -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Touring gear list advice
I'd bring a leatherman, a bike tool, some chain lube, patch kit, 3 spare tubes, chain pin, folding tire, and a GOOD bike pump that has a gauge. To me that would be a dream tool/ repair kit. Get really comfortable with the patch kit and it will save you some $$$ and pump your tires up every morning. I hope you are going North to South!!! Cheers, cm -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Grant super slick Camera strap!
Pretty sure that is a store- bought strap. Check out your local outdoor retailer, camera shop, or REI-- one of them should know what you are looking for and may have it in stock. Cheers! cm -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: do you ever get tired of....
I blame Cannondale..seriously. I think people know or sorta know it is a bike name and then see rivendell and in their mind things misfire, streams cross, words mash, and out comes Rivendale. do i ever get tired of it? nope. Cheers! cm -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: WAS: The Bleriot Build NOW: Bleriot Sizing
I should have said though I would like to have a Sam, too. The Bleriot is set up as a fast-ish bike with drops. Would love a Sam with cantis, albatross/mustache, bigger tires, and racks for touring/ commuting. Like this: http://www.ecovelo.info/2009/09/12/more-sam-h-pics/ Not gonna happen this year..but maybe in '11. Cheers! cm On Jun 16, 8:37 am, PATRICK MOORE bertin...@gmail.com wrote: Curious: what would the SH offer you that the Bleriot doesn't? On Tue, Jun 15, 2010 at 10:24 PM, cm chrispmur...@hotmail.com wrote: 5ft 9.5in and gotta 57cm Bleriot that fits perfectly-- could have definitely gone bigger(59), but not smaller(55). Best bike ever-- though I would like to have a Sam. Cheers! cm -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comrbw-owners-bunch%2Bunsubscrib e...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- Patrick Moore Albuquerque, NM For professional resumes, contact Patrick Moore, ACRW at resumespecialt...@gmail.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: WAS: The Bleriot Build NOW: Bleriot Sizing
5ft 9.5in and gotta 57cm Bleriot that fits perfectly-- could have definitely gone bigger(59), but not smaller(55). Best bike ever-- though I would like to have a Sam. Cheers! cm -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Anyone need a seat post?
Gotta a Crystal Fellow (27.2) that came off a bike that I just sold-- little greasy and a few scratches. Anyone got a bike out there that needs a post? or needs a better post? a bike that is begging for a little nitto bling? If you can/will actually use it and not save it for the next bike or project (I can do that), send me an email with your address and what bike you'll put it on and I'll send it to you. Cheers! cm -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Anyone need a seat post?
The post has been claimed. Thanks for the interest. Cheers! cm -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Wanted: Touring racks
+1 for Bruce Gordon racks-- they are beautiful. Tubus are nice too(and I have'em) but IMO not in the same league. Off topic: be sure to go north to south. Going south to north is like swimming upstream, possible but not as enjoyable. Cheers! cm -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: FS: Rapha Waxed Cotton Cap - Gentleman's Cap
I have seen lots of companies move overseas and their products get BETTER. I don't care where the stuff is made, when there is cheaper labor companies tend to put a fair bit of that increased margin back into the product. Look at a backpack made 20 years ago compared to the same model today made in China, or Vietnam, or where ever. The Asian pack blows the socks of the usa made pack in every category; more features, better fabric, better construction. Look inside a pair of decent pants today at the kind of finishing work INSIDE the pants, that would never/ could never happen without cheaper labor-- and not always cheap or unfair labor-- just cheaper than a first world country. The companies that hold out, that try to keep keep making their products here or in Europe are the products that often get returned to the store or to the company. I have heard more than a few buyers say that they wished these hold outs would move to asia so their products would stop falling apart. True for everybody? of course not-- but more true than most people would like to admit. So Rapha makes some stuff in China. They probably have good profit margins. But I'd be willing to bet it's as well made as anything else out there. People in other countries can make stuff just as nicely (and sometimes nicer) than here, there, or anywhere. Rapha is a designer company and arent there always premiums on designer products-- or are those Prada shoes really worth $5000. If you dont want it, dont buy it. Cheers! cm -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Bleriot vs. Quickbeam efficiency
I've experienced the same thing-- though my single speed bike is not a Quickbeam. I have always explained it to myself like this: My one gear is much easier to pedal than many of the gears of the multi-geared. This means that on downhill or flat sections I am not working as hard as I would be on my geared bike and am probably spinning more efficiently (higher cadence). When I get to the hills I have much more energy than I would on the geared bike and am able to go up it much faster-- then it is back to the downhill. and Repeat. It is the speed on the hills that makes the bike feel faster. I find that I am as fast/ feel faster on the single speed up to about 50 miles or so. The geared bike also feels faster on big climbs-- there is a classic 20+ mile climb here that is neither fast nor fun on the single. The numbers on the bikes' computers verify this. As an experiment, try putting the Bleriot in a comparable gear as the single and don't shift. Still notice the difference? Lastly, any chance there is a small engine in the seat tube of the Quickbeam? Might be worth checking. Cheers! cm -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: What is the level of your XO-1 nostalgia?
About a year ago I passed on a RB1 for $100. It was all original, my size, and had seen about 1000 miles total. It was red, forget the year and size but it must have been around a 55 cuz it fit me. I was in high school when B-stone closed, so the bikes were never part of my cycling past. To me, they are pretty much old bikes, nice old bikes, but old bikes. If I had the chance to buy it again, would I? Yeah, but only to try to get it to someone who would appreciate what it was and ride the heck out it. Cheers! cm -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Hilborne in Outside Magazine
Utility 1. An economic term referring to the total satisfaction received from a good or service Cheers! cm -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Saluki/Atlantis summer tour advice
I would strongly recommend against anyone riding south to north in CA-- not that it isnt do-able, just that it probably isnt gonna be a lotta fun, unless you like riding into strong winds. Get the Mountaineers book about cycling the Pacific Coast and read the first few chapters- at least then you will know what you are getting yourself into. There were lots of tears when we did it a few years back. Cheers! cm -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: is this confusing or am i missing something? Waterford Hillbornes?
Does it really matter? outside of the fact that one is MUSA and the other is not, is there any real tangible difference? Is the Waterford one better? better quality? better construction? better riding? longer lasting? better... something? or are we just talking about ideas and ideals? Would you actually recommend that someone buy the Waterford HIllborne over the normal HIllborne? If so, why? or, for that matter, why not? Do you think Riv thinks they are different? This is a a tough question for me-- I go back and forth. Hmm. cm -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Speed Up My Sam
I would take off the rack for faster rides/ events and maybe get some narrower tires. Clipless pedals? Then I would smell the flowers. When you do get a new more specialized bike you will be that much better. Cheers! cm -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: a different conception of Fatties Fit Fine
I think what is amazing about the lugged steel fork used in PR is that he is professional cyclist with access to any fork he wants and he elected to use steel? I think that is scary for two reasons, first b/c it makes it seem like he doesnt trust the carbon fork for even one race (i am sure he could have a new one for the next race), and second, the cobbles at PR prob represent a more accurate picture of what the non-racer experiences over a bikes lifetime. I find it shocking that the team mechanics, sponsors, and other riders couldn't/ didn't convince him to use carbon. That may be the weirdest part. Cheers! cm -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: a different conception of Fatties Fit Fine
I think it is fair to assume, knowing the little i do about professional cycling, that they most likely didnt have a lugged steel fork that would fit their frames (not sure if it was just 1 1/8, tapered, integrated, etct) handy. I assume that he didnt trust the carbon simply b/c there are lots of other carbon forks out there that would have fit a much larger tire than he was using. So assuming they didnt happen to have the steel fork lying around, the only logical conclusion I can come to is that it had more to do with materials than anything else. I am not saying that is fact, but that to me, it is the most logical answer. I accept there are other possibilities, but I dont buy the its what was handy argument one bit. As a side note- I am not anti-carbon one bit and have and have had carbon components (including forks) on my bikes. Cheers! cm On Apr 15, 6:12 pm, Bill M. bmenn...@comcast.net wrote: Why do you assume that everyone around him tried to convince him to use carbon? Or that it was a matter of not trusting a carbon fork? Plenty of carbon forks survived the cobbles just fine. I suspect he wanted to use a fatter tire than would fit in any of the carbon forks that the team had handy, so they used what was available to do the job. Bill On Apr 15, 9:55 am, cm chrispmur...@hotmail.com wrote: I think what is amazing about the lugged steel fork used in PR is that he is professional cyclist with access to any fork he wants and he elected to use steel? I think that is scary for two reasons, first b/c it makes it seem like he doesnt trust the carbon fork for even one race (i am sure he could have a new one for the next race), and second, the cobbles at PR prob represent a more accurate picture of what the non-racer experiences over a bikes lifetime. I find it shocking that the team mechanics, sponsors, and other riders couldn't/ didn't convince him to use carbon. That may be the weirdest part. Cheers! cm -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: a different conception of Fatties Fit Fine
Wow! http://www.cyclingnews.com/features/photos/roubaix-tech-cancellaras-race-winning-rig/115224 What is next? Cheers! cm -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Touring Advice Offered
All canister stoves are not all created equal. In my experience, the best bang for your buck is the Snow Peak Gigapower. More stable, lower height so pot less likely to tip over, flat pot holder so more contact area with pots, great quality, and wicked small (and made in Japan). All for 30-40 bucks. There are a few models but i like the basic, igniter less, stainless model. It blows the socks of off the competition. There is one 'design feature that is less than optimal-- you need to turn the gas valve on to store it in its case-- not a big deal, just dont forget to turn it off before attaching it to the canister the next time. With any canister stove, be sure to check how it attaches to the canister and what brands of fuel use the same attachment system. Keep in mind that most stores are legally obligated to tell you that a stove can only use the canisters from the same company as the stove (huge liability). This is usually not true-- do your research before buying anything. Canisters are amazing for day trips to week long tours-- longer than that and the benefit starts do go away. Time to start thinking about the Whisperlite International (a shockingly good product in my estimation). Cheers! cm -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Touring Advice Offered
Steripen-- have worked in outdoor shop for 10ish years. The steripen basically does what chemicals do (kills but does not clean), but does it more like a filter (piece of gear that needs care). There have been a few improvements in the design over the years, and while I have only used one sporadically, i have friends who have used them exclusively for months at a time in developing countries. They swear by'em. Just keep in mind that dirty water is still dirty after treatment-- so it is a good idea to use some type of pre-filter (like a bandanna over the mouth of the bottle). Also keep in mind that it treats the water in the bottle, not the water on the edges of the bottle, so be careful. Using it is a leap of faith--- nothing looks different, but suddenly the water is safe. A side note on filters: I wouldnt make to much of field serviceable for a filter. There is one particular filter from a company that is famous for making stoves, which seems to have it all-- long lasting filter, fully field serviceable, good reputable company-- but the ceramic filter can quickly get clogged and take forever to filter. Lotsa people just stop using them and take their chances. Another company that sounds like a mountain in Maine makes filters that arent field serviceable, but work and work fast consistently. They can still be taken apart and fixed. I think it is more important to know how your gear works than have any field serviceable moniker on the package. That is usually enough for emergency repair. Chemicals: try'em before you need'em. Some people can't stand the taste. Non-iodine seem work best for most. If you do use chemicals, brining something to flavor the water can be helpful--there are tons of options out there. Bring some type of chemical treatment even if you plan to use another method-- emergencies happen. And lastly, read the warning labels/ talk to you Doc if you are gonna be ingesting any chemical for any period of time. Rivendell content: Loving my new Bleriot. Cheers! cm -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Diagonapillar
Wow-- great mock up! I'll admit that it is much better than I expected it to look, but i still don't get it. I am sure it is stronger, but how much and is it necessary and isn't the Bomba pretty darn strong with the parallel tt's? There are definite disadvantages to the design, including bottle placement and carrying-- but how would they ever quantify the advantages with out extremely complicated testing? It seems a bit gimmicky and a bit different for the sake of being different. Seem a bit out of left field...major last minute design change. Cheers! cm -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Diagonapillar
Eric-- I say good move and I think most people (including the people at Riv (warning: speculation)) would do the same thing and that most, good, honest businesses would WANT to give you your money back. There is no blame here-- you ordered something and it changed and you no longer wanted it. That is business. I also say that if you think something is a half-hearted copy then you should say it, and we as fans of Riv should listen. Not everything has to be cheerleading. As long as it is said respectfully, then I think we need to be open to the good and the bad. I like the diagon-apillar 58% as much as the regul-apillar.And I dont get it. And it doesnt seem necessary. And I am not sorry. Cheers! cm -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Riddle me this.
Because there is more to a bike and how it rides than how high the seat is and how high the h'bars are. That's not even getting into looks or construction. If all that mattered was function we'd all be on Surlys. If his question is Why is your bike better than mine?, I think a few looks and a short ride would make it obvious. If his question is why should I buy one of those?, I think the answer is that he shouldn't. We all buy things and with everything there is a wide range of quality, brands, and durability but the function is the same. A $2 thrift store shirt has the exact same function as a $75 new one and 90% of the looks to boot. But I think most people would agree there is an obvious difference. If all he needs is a CL special, then that is th perfect bike for him-- much like the $2 shirt would be perfect if I needed something to paint the house in. Cheers! cm -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Diagonapillar
I wonder if there is a drawing, mock up, or other bike out there with this config? It sounds kinda weird to me, but seeing it might change everything. cheers! cm -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: pannier recommendations
+1 for the Carridice Super C's in the non category. Get'em from Wiggle and save a bundle The Arkels are nice too but much more $$. That said, just had this exact conversation with friends who just spent 3 years biking around the world and they, and they claim the around-the-world set, say it is Ortlieb hands down. Crossing the Himalaya in winter lends a certain amount of credibility to their recommendation (at least in my opinion). First time I'd ever seriously considered'em. Cheers! cm -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Simpleone...any more info?
Seems like it has been a bit with no more info on the Simpleone. Anyone out there have any more info? Availability? Dates? Price? Anything at all. Cheers! cm -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Bonkers
If they can sell it for that much (or likely more) good for them. And if the person who wants to buy it wants stick in the bicycle room, who cares? There are old pennies, nickels, and dimes that are worth a lot more than a penny, nickel, or dime and if someone wants to buy them and stick them in a little bag and put'em in a book to admire- who cares? Yes, bikes are meant to be ridden and dimes are meant to be spent, but not all of them, all the time for everyone. Do what you want with our stuff, I'll do what I want with mine. And I dont think there is anything suck-y or suck-ish about it. Cheers! cm -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Bonkers
I hope they do whatever they want with it (though admittedly I would ride it into the ground). Cheers! cm -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
