[RBW] Now Ebay Outing; was: FS: '05 Mercian Vincitore Custom Road/Fixed Frameset; 64x59.5cm c-c
Just a heads-up to all of youse, I moved the Mercian Vincitore to ebay, with new photos of the naked frameset. Link: https://www.ebay.com/itm/112917306031 With apologies and thanks--- Paul Brodek Hillsdale, NJ USA On Mon, 12 Mar 2018 01:11:14 -0400, p...@skyweb.net wrote: Apologies for the cross-posting, but I think this frameset fits all three groups. I'm selling a tall 2005 Mercian Vincitore custom Road/Fixed-Gear frameset, 64cmx59.9cm c-c. I bought it from the original owner, who ordered it custom directly from Mercian. Lovely frame, lovely ride, but I'd prefer a bit more standover, so I'm hoping to find it a new home. The Vincitore is Mercian's top-o'-the-line frame, with the distinctive lugs hand-cut from blanks. If my math is correct, the current base price is around 1,000 pounds (~$1,300) w/o VAT, plus shipping. I'm not sure if there's an upcharge for the fixed-gear configuration. I'm asking $700 handed-off in the NY/NJ metro area, or $775 shipped via bikeflights in the continental USA. Preference will be given to a local sale. I only have photos of the frame built-up, what's offered for sale here is the frame/fork/headset (Chris King) only. Note that the frame takes a 27.4mm post. Apologies to CR listers for any and all off-topic parts pictured. The frame is built with Reynolds 531ST tubing, with clearances for fairly wide tires. Actual 700x35mm tires fit comfortably, and I'm fine with slightly tighter clearances and 700x38s. I've also ridden it with 650b wheels at one point, but didn't have any 650b tires wider than 38mm. I'd guess that 650bx42s would fit, but can't guarantee it. The 650b setup gave me a bit more standover. I bought, and inexpertly applied, the Reynolds 531ST sticker visible on the frame. I don't know if it's correct for a 2005 frameset, but should be fairly easy to remove. No dents/dings/scrapes or other damage. Paint is a solid 9/10, with just a couple of very small scratches. I haven't had it on a frame table, but it rides fine. Please check the photos in my flickr album, and PM me with any questions: https://flic.kr/s/aHsknmswGe Details---measurements are mine; 2005 Mercian Vincitore Custom Road Fixed Gear/ Reynolds 531ST tubing ST: 73.2-deg; HT: 72.5-deg ST c-c: 64.0cm; c-t: 66.0cm x.x TT c-c: 59.5cm Chainstay: 45.5cm; WB: 107.0cm BB Height: 27.8mm/11" w/700c Bottom Bracket Drop: 7.0cm; Standover: 91.0cm/35.75" Head Tube Length: 247mm Brake Reach: approx 58mm w/700c Rear Axle Spacing: 120 mm Paul Brodek Hillsdale, NJ USA -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Ebay Outing (Mine): '95 Rivendell Road 58.5cm
The hook-clearing continues, with my Riv Road just posted on ebay. I love what it represents, and how it rides, but it duplicates more than a couple '70s-'80s sport-tour frames I lucked into. Auction runs till Sunday night. Link: https://www.ebay.com/itm/Early-Rivendell-Road-Frameset-58-5cm-c-c-12-95-Waterford-Build-Reynolds-753/112897342122 Auction number: 112897342122 Fits 30mm actual-width tires, rides sweet, very roadworthy, cosmetically has some bald spots. Dimensions/Geometry (my measurements): ST 58.5cm c-c, 60.0cm c-t TT 58.5cm c-c ST 72.3-deg, HT 72.3-deg Chainstay 42.0cm, wheelbase 103.0cm BB height 26.7cm; bb drop 66mm Standover 82.5cm/32.5" with 700x30mm tires Rear spacing 128mm; short horizontal Henry James drops w/o eyelets Seatpost: 27.2mm Brake Reach: 39-49mm Tire Clearance: 30mm actual width More pix on flickr: https://flic.kr/s/aHsjMNNebe Paul Brodek Hillsdale, NJ USA -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: Tires/Wheels for new Sam Hillborne
You can fit 650b wheels on any 700c bike, but some 700c bikes won't fit 650b tires. This isn't an issue for Mark's Sam, but it's worth noting for 650b conversions in general. If your frame has tight clearances with 25mm 700c tires, currently-available 650b tires will be very tight. If 23mm 700c tires are tight, you're likely SOL without frame modification. AFAIK there are no 650b tires narrower than 32mm currently available; GB Cypres and Hutchinson Confrérie des 650 are the narrowest at 32-33mm. The only very slightly narrower tire sometimes available is the discontinued Michelin Megamium, 31-32mm. I have two 650b conversions in-house with less than 2mm tire clearance at the chainstays, a '96 Waterford 1200 with Megamiums and a '76 Mooney with Confreries. Both are pretty tight with 25mm 700c tires. They have vertical drops so no chance of wheel slippage, and I'm stupid enough to ride both---on decent roads, not too far from home. The Mooney is Reynolds 531 but has great paint, so I'm not ready to have the chainstays crimped. The W'ford also has great paint, but beyond that it's built with Reynolds 753, not a great candidate for crimping. Nothing wider than the Megamiums will fit in the W'ford, so when either of those tires dies it's back to 700c. The question is most definitely what would you gain with 650b? The conversion ideal is using a 650b tire with enough volume to both improve the ride and not drastically change handling. On these two bikes I'd rather have 31-32mm 650b rubber and tight clearances than 25mm 700c rubber and tight clearances. I would love to see a true 30mm supple 650b tire to help give better road manners to crit bikes... Paul Brodek Hillsdale, NJ USA Quoting Tim Gavin : You can fit 650B wheels on any 700C bike. The question is which brakes to useThe question is, what would you gain with 650B? You can already fit 45mm tires on 700C rims on the Sam. Do you want more float than that? If you do, then go for it... Tim On Wed, Aug 7, 2013 at 6:20 AM, Mitch Browne wrote: I've ridden Supreme 40's under my Atlantis Longboards daily for almost two years now. Love them. No fit issues. Mitch BrowneSan Luis Obispo, CA On Tuesday, August 6, 2013 4:46:53 PM UTC-7, Mark Taintor wrote: I have a new 56 cm Sam that's going to be built up in the next week or so, and I've got a couple questions about tires and wheels for it: 1. I'll be putting on Longboard fenders and was wondering if 40 mm Marathon Supremes would work with them. Would it be better to run the 35 mm Supremes? I know there's clearance for 40 mm tires on the Hillborne but don't know if that is with/without fenders. 2. Anybody ever put 650B wheels on a 56 Sam? Looking on the Riv website at the page for the Betty Foy, it says that the Betty and the Sam can take the same volume tires. The Betty mostly uses 650B wheels. As of now I'm planning on 700c wheels, but am intrigued with 650B. Thoughts? Thanks,Mark -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: duct tape to enamel paint
Hopefully this won't get me banned from the list, but I've been using self-fusing silicone tape to finish my gel tape bar wraps for a few years now. Three strikes for me already for not using cotton tape, twine and shellac... It's available in colors, though I only do black bar wrap (strike 4?), so black silicone tape. It's fast and neat, you cut about a 6 length, stretch it tight as you wind around the bar, next to the handlebar ferrule. Since it has no adhesive, there's no oozing adhesive later, like electrical tape, and since it fuses/sticks to itself, it never peels or separates. Seems impervious to normal temperature extremes, doesn't loosen/degrade in hot temps or solidify/crack in low temps. Jersey temps, anyway, up to 100deg in summer, down to zero in winter. Never thought of it for lighting/computer cable wrap since the native width is 1, kinda wide for cable wrap. You could cut it lengthwise, I suppose, but being gel-like, it could be a little squirrely to cut lengthwise? Paul Brodek Hillsdale, NJ USA Quoting Cyclofiend Jim : Absolutely do not use Duct (or Duck) tape on bikes...It makes for a nasty clean up...But, YES on Gaffer's Tape. That is wonderful stuff. Also - the other item I found is Rescue Tape which comes in several colors and clear. It is a self-fusing silicone wrap which I've used to water-restrict openings and attachments. The stuff is pretty cool. http://www.rescuetape.com/ - Jim / cyclofiend.com On Monday, August 5, 2013 9:32:39 AM UTC-7, SMP wrote: Would you ever put duct tape onto your frame? How would it impact the enamel paint job? I am trying to think of a a non-zip-tie way to route dynamo light wires, and I found the perfect hue of duct tape that matches my paint job. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] FS: Nitto, Paul, Nigel Smythe, Swift, Gripking, Brand V, Bruce Gordon, Cateye, Tektro, etc.
Hi Mike, if I'm not too late, though I'll assume I am, I'd like to buy your Paul canti brakes. IMHO they perform very nicely, they also have the best possible name. Can paypal straightaway, please let me know if I got lucky. Cheers, Paul Brodek Hillsdale, NJ USA Quoting Mike On A Bike : Hey y'all, I'm having a long overdue garage sale for some of my underused equipage. The prices listed are simply what I think their worth, and I'm open to offers. Most of the items listed here have a picture or two in this photo album. I may add a few more things to this listing and I'll try to post pictures for everything. All items will have an at-cost shipping fee added. Please contact me off-list if your're interested, thanks! Paul Components Canti-Combo: One pair of Neo-Retro brakes (front) and one pair of the Touring model, both in silver anodized. $75 for the set. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: ISO large **non saddlebag loop** seat wedge big enough to carry a 1 qt water container + a 20 oz water bottle.
I'll maybe offer the only counter-voice so far. Have a Pika and find it a bit lacking. It doesn't sway much less than other saddlebags I've used, when extended I find it sways quite a bit. It also sits very high when extended, gets in the way when I tuck back to descend. It's also not easy to get to stuff deep in the bag. You have to pop the buckles, unroll it, then stick your arm in and fish around till your fingers find it, with the outer edge of the bag all the way up at your elbow. So I'm not a big fan so far. It is much lighter than a canvas/leather alternative, or a racked bag, but I'm not so concerned about weight. Also, FWIW, I used lots of saddlebags on loop-less saddles, never had trouble cinching the straps tight on the seat rails. I definitely use the Peter White trick of locating the buckles inside the bag and tightening the straps as much as possible. Most bags with stiffeners or dowels up top do well with livable sway. Paul Brodek Hillsdale, NJ USA Quoting Patrick Moore : I would immediately choose the Pika except for the price. We'll see -- if I can get a discount from Stevie --- Since the gofast would use such a bag only periodically (sorry, I like to keep the silhouette of that bike lean and clean) I would probably use the Pika on the Fargo (now rackless since shopping duties were transferred to the Ram) and save the Carradice Prima Maxi for the gofast. Question: the Fargo has very, very little clearance between saddle (even with the immensely long, 500mm (?) mm post) and the 29-plus rear tire, so little that even a Carradice Junior drags. The Carradice clears nicely, but it's only 5 liters, which is more apt for the gofast anyway. Would you be kind enough to measure the maximum height of the Pika, first unexpanded, then expanded? I'd be grateful. On Fri, Jun 28, 2013 at 2:19 PM, Garth wrote: Yep great to have choices !! FWIW my main criteria was no leg or butt rub and yet large. The Pika is 6-12 liters !! The end has no seal or closure, you simply roll it like a cigar and the ends connect to the stabilzer straps on the side. It's really a smart design. The velcro stap around the seatpost is like industrial quality. I appreciate such velcro ! And it's really light of I too looked at the ones you have , but for me they all would have rubbed me the wrong way ... lol. (pun intended !) I would have gladly got a Jandd Mnt. Wedge 3 if it was tapered at the seatpost. I was about to give up and just go the rack and bag route again , but racks are such dead weight. So ask, and ye shall find ! There is was . I thought I saw the larger Revelate bag expanded and thought it was a joke. But it was real and works really well. The guy who makes the bags is a one man show in Alaska, or maybe he has some help these days IDK. You'll likely be happy with any of them really ... the hardest part is always the dance before buying them 4 sure ! Have fun Patrick everything can be :) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- http://resumespecialties.com/index.htmlpatrickmo...@resumespecialties.com http://www.linkedin.com/in/patrickmooreresumespec/ Albuquerque, NM -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] FS: Sugino Triple, S83 post, Tallux 11cm stem, 46cm Noodles, Marks Rack, lil loafer, etc.
Hi Patrick, I'll scarf up the Noodles and Iris cages if still available. Can paypal straightaway, unless I fall asleep before you reply, in which case I can pay tomorrow. :^} Cheers, Paul Brodek Hillsdale, NJ Quoting LouisvillePatrick : All prices include shipping to Continental US. Paypal preferred! Nitto Noodle 48cm Handlebars: Normal scratching from mounting to stem, brakes, great condition. $65.00 2 King Cages: Iris style, my favorite. Great shape.20.00 for the pair. Pictures of all of these items can be seen at: www.flickr.com/bassandbike Thanks for looking, and please contact with questions! Patrick JohnsonLouisville, Kentucky -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: FS: Phil Wood SS (fixed-free) Rear Wheel
I'd be interested in knowing rim/spoke spec, as well as price, including shipping if you're willing to ship. I know you'd prefer local, but sometimes local doesn't work and somebody in NJ has paypal funds burning a hole in his pocket (ahem!). Paul Brodek Hillsdale, NJ USA Quoting jar351 : Sorry. I seem to have managed to leave all the useful information out of my posts. I'm in Oakland, CA. On Thursday, May 30, 2013 9:15:37 AM UTC-7, jim wrote: Wow localed? I meant where are you located? Jim On Wednesday, May 29, 2013 9:22:47 AM UTC-5, jim wrote: where are you localed? Jim (in Madison WI) On Wednesday, May 15, 2013 4:56:53 PM UTC-5, jar351 wrote: Hi all, I've got a Phil Wood single speed wheel in great shape that I've absolutely no use for, so it's time to find it a new home. Great as an upgrade for your Sim Here are the details: Fixed-Free hub, spaced to 120mm -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Great Western Bicycle Rally - 2013
To each his own, of course, but I figure I've got more than a couple thousand bucks into a bicycle that is always just one small oil slick or attention-defecit driver away from crashing and burning, so I'm not going to forgo the awesomeness of a Fuji X100/S or X10/X20 for fear of dropping. You can get a clean/used X100 for $500-$600, a clean X10 for $200-$275 (?), with file output that is as good as a Riv rides. Heck, some of us are shodding our $400+ wheels with near-$100 tires, and you can shred a tire in no-time flat. YMMV... Paul Brodek Hillsdale, NJ USA Quoting Eric Norris : The x100 looks like a great camera, but my personal rules about digital cameras and cycling require that I only carry a camera that I wouldn't mind dropping while riding. At upwards of $1,000, the x100 wouldn't meet that test for me. I generally carry cameras that I paid $100 or less for, and those usually come from eBay (where I buy older models to get 95% of the features at 25% of the price). I got a screaming deal on a very nice waterproof Sony camera mostly because it is pink, and nobody wants a pink camera. Eric Nwww.CampyOnly.comCampyOnlyGuy.blogspot.comTwitter: @CampyOnlyGuy On May 31, 2013, at 7:11 AM, jimD wrote: The FujiFilm X cameras particularly the X100 and X100S make great cameras to use when riding.Thanks very much for the kudos on the photos. Almost all the pictures are made from raw files processed in LightRoom. I can't praise Paso Robles enough as a great place to ride. Lots of 'country bike' kind of riding there and much variety. Plus the Great Western Bicycle Rally is about as un-racerish multi-day event I've encountered. I enjoy all the little kids zooming around the fairgrounds on their bikes. Cheers,JimD On May 31, 2013, at 6:26 AM, bwphoto wrote: Great photos! I've been drooling over the the x100 and similar cameras since they first came out. Their compactness reminds me the light and unencumbered feel of my old film cameras, while I love my DSLRs and lenses sometimes I yearn for simplicity. Your BWs are gorgeous, great tonality, they almost look like selenium toned prints, are those straight out of the camera or converted in post? Also, I loved your shots of the urban/suburban landscapes...and the story they tell. On Monday, May 27, 2013 10:42:18 PM UTC-5, JimD wrote: As is our custom, pal Brian and I spent this weekend at the Great Western Bicycle Rally in Paso Robles, CA.The rally is a great family affair and the variety of riding in Paso Robles is excellent.Pictures may prove that it happened: http://www.flickr.com/photos/rasterdogs/ JimD -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Bike Spec Product Managers; was: [BOB] The AngryAsian says.....
I know that gearing is always a very individual thing, with fitness level and terrain and target speed and load and more mixed in. With 11/12t cogs, it's all about how you define standard chainring sizes. I've pretty much entirely abandoned triples for compact doubles, and 34/46 or 34/48 are my new standard rings. An 11/12t cog gives me a high enough gear to spin a bit before I tuck to descend, my dweeble-like build being ideal only for descending. With a smallish 12-14t jump in the front, indexed shifting is always easy and even foolproof. Haven't done loaded touring in many decades, if that option presented itself I'd need lower gearing, either a triple, but they feel kinda yucky now, or a more-compact doulble (24/44?) or a monster low rear cog (42t w/SRAM?). Paul Brodek Hillsdale, NJ USA Quoting Geof Gee : On Fri, May 31, 2013 at 12:44 PM, Andy Goodell wrote: If 11t is too fast than why not just use smaller chainrings? Particularly for indexed front derailer shifting, it pays to keep the standard chainring sizes. If you are like me, then you prefer the width of a road crank which AFAIK means the smallest (big) chainring is 50t. For me, I've always been a spinner, that is simply not usable except in extraordinary circumstances. For a long time, I used a 12-32 10-speed cassette with a compact crank. But I hardly used the 12-tooth cog; I used the 32 more than the 12. Nevertheless, I had more usable cogs in the center of the cassette with easier jumps. However, I'll be the first to admit that the general acceptance of 11-tooth cogs implies that most people seem to be fine with it and I'm the strange one. -G -- Sometimes I forget things. Who I am. Where I am. Unimportant things. But I'm not insane. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups internet-bob group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to internet-bob+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to internet-...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/internet-bob/CACEjqhR3LORvMs%3DdU1fnx5myfC%3Ds%3DesQ0U4djQv0TJCk73VsJg%40mail.gmail.com?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Swapping Bleriot drivetrain idea. Will it work?
Fder might work, should have enough swing but there are other limitations: cage curve doesn't match a 46t ring well, and your 22t difference may mean chain will rub rear of cage in all but a couple of low/(big) cogs. Dropping the 46t to a 44t would help, and tighten up the shifting---stick with a 13t high cog and the 44t shouldn't be bad. Rder limitation is not only cage length/chain wrap, but also body geometry---the Ultegra, even the long cage version, may not be able to get the guide pulley under a 32t cog. Them's ATB-world gears, so Deore/XT/XTR should work fine. Only you know how low you really need your low to be. The likely cheapest/easiest way to gear lower with your present setup would be to use a 34t front ring, smallest the crank can handle, then to go 36t in the rear, replace the rder. For one chainring, one cassette, one rder and chain, bob's yer uncle, if 34fx36r is low enough. I'd also ditch the 50t ring for 46t or 48t, unless you like pushing gears descending at high speed, Next step would be a wider/lower compact crank, something with a smaller-than-110 bolt circle that would let you do a 28/44 double. Stick w/10spd in the rear and you might not miss the middle ring, you'll have fewer chainline/rub probs, etc. 28/44 double w/13-32 10spd? New crank, new rings, new cassette, new rder, new chain, maybe new bb? I'm guessing you're not index-shifting, so 10sp vs 9sp vs 8sp doesn't matter shift-wise? Otherwise you'll need a new rear shifter if you change from 10spd. Or you can do what you suggested, change everything. Ah, the tyranny of choice!!! Paul Brodek Hillsdale, NJ USA Quoting Michael : I am thinking about changing my Bleriot's drivetrain. Here is the plan. Will it work with the existing FD and RD I have? I have on the Bleriot now:Ultegra Compact crankset 36-5010 speed cassette in the rear 27-11 I think.Ultegra FD and RD I want to change to:Sugino triple 24-36-469 speed cassette in back. 32-14 or something.New bb of course. I am thinking that even if the FD can swing wide enough for a triple, the RD would need a long pulley arm to work in tandem with the triple up front? The Ultegra has a short one now. Any ideas for a compromise that would work?Might just have to change out the derailers, too I guess. Getting expensive. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
