from:"tc"

...pick up the phone, order a Legolas in size 62, color xyz, and it’d be ready 
in maybe 9 months. I’d get a cool bike, and Riv would make a profit. They could 
use that profit to run their business. 

What is not realistic about that scenario?

Ford sells really cool Shelby Mustangs that cost out the wazoo. At the same 
time, they sell a gazillion F-150s with white paint, vinyl seats, and little 
base model steel wheels. They make a profit on both. They have customers for 
both, so they make both. 

Tom

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[RBW] Re: Legolas Mystique: If Riv offered a limited time only, prepaid Legolas run, would you buy one?

I think that there’s middle ground to be had here. 

If Riv can find a builder that will make a frame that people are willing to pay 
for, and provide them with some profit (enough to make it worth it), then this 
is a win-win. My understanding is that already-designed frames with blueprints 
are simply waiting on a (quality) frame builder who has the bandwidth to make 
them. The “market” will decide if it’s worth it. 

If I decided that I wanted a new Legolas (or whatever the new name would be), I 
assume the price would be somewhere between a Rodeo and a custom. It should not 
cost as much as a custom because the design was done long ago. It’s a matter of 
picking a size and colors.

I’d call Riv, ask them to pick up the phone,  

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[RBW] Re: FS: Rivendell Clementine, 52 cm

Wow ... you did it ... you jumped!  Congrats Leah...I know this was a 
long-time decision for you.  So glad you've dialed in your current Clem!

Tom

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[RBW] Getting a Riv Custom Painted in the Bay Area

We’ve had Rick of D do 2 of our frames and can heartily recommend. 

Tom 

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[RBW] Re: Legolas Mystique: If Riv offered a limited time only, prepaid Legolas run, would you buy one?

2020-01-24 Thread tc

Thanks for the offer, Bill, but I’m good. Given Riv’s reply last year re: the 
Hunq, I started looking for a used one. Took a while to find one in good 
condition and sized right, but find one I did.  Joe Bell has had it in his 
paint queue for a couple of months. 

As for the Legolas, I was just curious.

And, as this thread has proven, there’s a lot of curiosity out there, and 
misinformation, about what can be ordered. The list of orderable bikes isn’t 
large — at least not so large that Riv couldn’t maintain such an accurate list 
on their web site. They are in business to sell bikes; hard to see why they 
wouldn’t make that as easy as possible. 

Tom

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[RBW] Re: Legolas Mystique: If Riv offered a limited time only, prepaid Legolas run, would you buy one?

2020-01-24 Thread tc

I agree, Roberta. This is still confusing because I was told last year by a Riv 
employee that I could no longer order a Hunq. So, a definitive list of specific 
frames would help!

Tom

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Re: [RBW] Re: The Stem Chronicles: Will this get me injured?

2020-01-23 Thread tc

Keep in mind that swapping out your current 5cm stem for an Analog 
"Tanglefoort w(Right)" 0cm stem I mentioned above gets the bars 2" closer 
to you.  So, you might not need your bar any higher at that point.  The 
w(Right) stem has a 225mm shaft height, so, though I'm not sure of its max 
height line (you should ask them how high it can safely go), you could 
hopefully get them up at least as high as your current stem.  I don't think 
there's another option for you stem-wise...I mean, 0mm is pretty much the 
shortest :)

Now, handlebar-wise, you DO have more options to get your grip higher than 
even a Bosco.  Search for "Cruiser" handlebars.  Nitto, Wald, Trek/Electra, 
Sunlite, and other companies make a wide variety of "sit up and beg" bars.

Tom

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[RBW] The Stem Chronicles: Will this get me injured?

2020-01-23 Thread tc

Leah,
This analog stem might work. They will have it in 0mm and 30mm reach versions. 
Will need shims since it’s a 31.8 handlebar clamp, and your Bosco at the clamp 
has a 25.4mm diameter. They can get you the right shims. 

https://www.analogcycles.com/product/analog-wright-stem/

Tom

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[RBW] Re: FS: 61 Roadini F/F/HS/BB -- Custom Red Paint

2020-01-22 Thread tc

I've removed all components and added a couple of pic's and a vid of the 
F/F/HS/BB.  Same Google Photos folder 
.
I have the Paul Medium Racers for sale in another post 
.

Tom

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[RBW] If you need a smallish footprint front rack tested to hold up to 22lbs/10kg...

2020-01-21 Thread tc

...then you might look at the Rene Herse UD-1 
 
(disc) or UD-2 

 
(canti).  Nice looking, weighs not a lot, can get 2 diff length struts.  
Per Jan, on *this page, 
*  "We 
test all Rene Herse racks to 22 pounds (10 kg) – each rack has to survive 
100,000s of cycles on a test rig with the weight strapped tightly onto the 
rack. In the real world, the tires absorb the shocks, and the load can move 
a bit, too, so the stresses on the rack are lower. Basically, we guarantee 
that a Rene Herse rack won’t fail even in very hard use. We back that up 
with a 5-year warranty 
."

Tom

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Re: [RBW] Re: MIT AHH vs Canti Sam

2020-01-19 Thread tc

Hey John, I have a few pic's *here 
*.  Saddle height 79.5.

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> Would you mind posting a pic? Sorry, I tried to DM but I’m on mobile.

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[RBW] Re: Narrow-wide 1x chain ring question

2020-01-19 Thread tc

*Garbaruk * 
<https://www.garbaruk.com/110-bcd-5-bolt-round.html?category=3=10-58=>makes
 
chainrings that meet all of the requirements I listed.

Free shipping to U.S. (from Poland).

They also have a good blog post about narrow/wide chainrings 
<https://www.garbaruk.com/blog/articles-1/post/the-state-of-narrow-wide-chainrings-1>
.

Tom

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>
> I'm contemplating a 1x8/9 setup, and cannot seem to find a narrow-wide 
> chain ring that meets all of these criteria:
>
>- 36+ teeth
>- 5-bolt 110 bcd (not deal breaker, but nice to reuse existing arms)
>- Fits non-direct mount, square taper JIS crank arms, like the Silver 
>or Sugino brand cranks many of of us have already
>- 8/9/10 spd chain compatibility
>- Silver color (anodized or polished)
>- Good quality
>
> Hopefully some of you have searched for something like this before and 
> found it.
>
> Sugino doesn't seem to make narrow-wide rings, or at least Google 
> Translator and their pictures lead you to believe that.
>
> Raceface & Wolftooth don't make this in silver.  As an aside: Wolftooth 
> recommends using a 10spd chain in 1x9 setups so the (slightly tighter) 
> chain holds their ring better.
>
> VO doesn't seems to offer a narrow-wide ring.
>
> Hope doesn't offer this in silver.
>
> I love White Ind. cranks and rings, but they're direct-mount arms.
>
> Some company could fill a niche here, I'm thinking...
>
> I have a Sugino XD3BX-701D 
> <https://www.suginoltd.co.jp/us/products/touring/xd.html> 46/36 on order, 
> which I may end up using for a 2x setup instead, but wanted to see if any 
> of you have found a 1x crank and narrow-wide ring per above. 
>
> Thanks for your thoughts, and Happy New Year!
> Tom
>
>
>

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[RBW] Re: Legolas Mystique: If Riv offered a limited time only, prepaid Legolas run, would you buy one?

2020-01-19 Thread tc

@aeroperf, Nice wine holder!  A little classier than a king cage, isn't 
it.  I guess the whole Legolas thing, as you point out, seems to be so 
niche that it wasn't viable to offer en masse like the MIT Sam, Atlantis, 
Clem, -- even if the number of lugs were reduced, etc..  I, too, have 
gotten to the point that it would likely not be a comfortable bike for me, 
either.  But whenever "Legolas" is mentioned, it's like bears to honey 
around here.  I would have thought that Legolas (or whatever its new name 
would be) would be offered at a price point like the Rodeo, which is still 
significantly less expensive than a custom.  I guess the business case just 
isn't there after all.

Tom

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[RBW] Legolas Mystique: If Riv offered a limited time only, prepaid Legolas run, would you buy one?

Thinking out loud here, I propose that if Riv continued to offer these 5 
frames, *some* of their financial worries would be diminished. Accepting the 
fact that I’ve enjoyed 2 glasses of Frank Family 2016 Lewis Vineyard Chardonnay:
1.  Original Atlantis geo
2.  Hunq
3.  Legolas
4.  Rodeo
5.  Sam. Who on earth, who’s been right-sized, does not love this bike??  
Lordy, it is so wonderfully versatile.. Canti, likely would win. OK.  But 
sidepull is just as awesome!

I don’t care if the former Legolas is renamed. How silly to abandon an 
apparently bucket list design because of a copyright or trademark name issue.   
That’s why I’m wondering what my original post asked ... what’s the big deal?  
If it’s a great design, why not continue to offer it?

Wife says it’s late. Thanks for your thoughts. 

Tom

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[RBW] FS: Paul Medium Racer center mount recessed brake set

$180 + shipping.  Includes pads and straddle cables. In excellent condition 
functionally and aesthetically. About 500 miles on them. 

Reach is 47-57. I used them on my Roadini with A23 rims and 35mm Bon Jon Pass 
tires. 

Pictures here:  https://photos.app.goo.gl/7TwAXhEXqLXwgXKL8

Tom

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Re: [RBW] Re: daily post ur riv

Thanks Rich, Jason and Scott. I’m impressed with the sturdiness of these VO 
fenders, and that they supplied all the leather washers (plus extras). They 
don’t rattle a bit, and, in combination with the 2” G-Ones, fit like a glove 
with plenty of coverage. As for the G-one Speeds, it’s weird; these are 
completely silent; whereas the 2.35” I had on the same bike gave off a slight, 
but not obnoxious hum. 

Tom

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[RBW] Re: Velocity Quill experiences?

Joey, thanks for your insight is on the Quill.  I haven’t built a wheelset  yet 
— but that’s on my list to learn and have fun with some day.   That’s a nice 
Ogrebrings back memories of mine, shod with Thunderburts; with a Jones bar 
it was quite a versatile bike. 

Tom

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[RBW] Legolas Mystique: If Riv offered a limited time only, prepaid Legolas run, would you buy one?

2020-01-17 Thread tc

What's the big deal?  I have never ridden one of these unicorns, but wow, 
they seem to be more popular than Rodeo.  So, I'm really intrigued.  Is it 
simply that you can't get them any longer (or only by special order at 
custom prices) -- so it's appealing because you can't easily get one?  
Could someone explain the use and appeal of these things?

>From what I've been able to piece together, they are supreme cross bikes.  
So, they're good at a lot of things.  Kinda like the Kona Jake when it came 
out.  

Tom

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[RBW] Re: MIT AHH vs Canti Sam

2020-01-17 Thread tc

Some commenters who have owned both MIT AHH and Sam prefer the Sam.  Count 
me in that group.  I used to have a 61.6 MIT AHH and a 2016 58 *sidepull *Sam.  
I now have a 2016 62 *sidepull *Sam, my fav of all 3.  The Sam oddly feels 
more maneuverable, yet stouter to me, but not not slow (chainstays?  
trail?).   I haven't tried the canti Sam.  The sidepull version works fine 
for me with 44 Snoq Pass -- plenty of tire for that bike, though no 
fenders.  I believe the sidepull version has the shortest chainstays, if 
that makes a diff to you.  You might be able to find a bargain on a 
sidepull Sam these days.

Tom

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[RBW] Re: Can we talk about long wheelbases?

2020-01-15 Thread tc

You can get a 5cm reach Tallux  from Riv and Ben’s cycle. But check the shaft 
height. 

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[RBW] Advice Needed: Tires

2020-01-14 Thread tc

Steve,
What width rim?  How wide a tire does your frame allow you to go?

My quick ranking, having used them in the 38-60mm range:

1. Barlow (38 std casing). Most supple - like butter, quietest, easiest to 
mount. 

2  G-One (2” and 2.4”) second most supple, very slight hum on pavement, but not 
objectionably so. 

3. Sport Contact II (42) (I know you didn’t mention). Least supple, but more so 
than marathons, least expensive, quiet, fast for money. 

I should note my experiences are running with tubes. 

Tom

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[RBW] Re: Velocity Quill experiences?

2020-01-12 Thread tc

I'm no wheel builder, but it's interesting that VO recommended spoke 
tension for the Voyager of 110 kgf, and not to exceed 115.  I'm guessing 
there's no universal "never go below, or above" a certain tension, and that 
different rims will spec different tensions.  But does anyone 'in the know' 
(Peter?) have an opinion as to whether a rim that spec's 115kgf or lower is 
in any way lesser quality?

Probably much ado about nothing, but reading this sentence, "High quality 
wheels generally have drive side rear spoke tension anywhere from 130 kgf 
on up to 155 kgf." in this article 

 
made me wonder.

Tom

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[RBW] Re: Velocity Quill experiences?

2020-01-12 Thread tc

Anyone tried the relatively new $85 VO Voyager rim?  I'm not familiar with 
the quality of VO rims in general.  This rim hits the gap between Atlas and 
Cliffhanger.  Comes in 26", 650b, 700c, for 38mm to 2.4" (61mm) tire, 638g 
(700c) and 597g (650b), stainless eyelets, tubeless compatible, rim or disc 
brake.

The Quill is much more expensive -- yet is 1/3 lb lighter (insignificantly 
so for me).
The Atlas is very slightly more expense, but not tubeless compatible 
(insignificant for me, so far), and can't fit as wide a tire.
The Cliffhanger gives up a little on the narrow tire size range, but can 
take a slightly wider tire, is insignificantly heavier, and very slightly 
more expensive.

More info:

VO:  https://velo-orange.com/collections/rims/products/voyager-rim

Bike Rumor:  
https://bikerumor.com/2019/06/25/velo-orange-voyager-builds-classic-bike-looks-on-wide-tubeless-gravel-trail-rims/

Tom

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[RBW] Re: New ROADEO

Thanks, Bill.  So, what you're saying is ... the Rodeo is  a race 
bike?  Point driven home!

Kidding aside, a couple of your points popped out to me, applying to any 
type of bike and riding:
- Actual and perceived speeds are likely significantly different.  
Geometry, and tires, fool riders.  
- Toys are nice to have!  No justification needed.

Tom, who is selling his Roadini 
 
(not to get a Roadeo)

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[RBW] Re: FS: 61 Roadini F/F/HS/BB -- Custom Red Paint

*OK, 61 custom red (by Rick at D Cycles 
<https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fTGtoTlJyh0>) Roadini back up for sale, 
**reduced 
to $650 for F/F/H/BB, plus packing and shipping, which **I'll split with 
you.*

As part of a package deal, I will consider selling the pair of Paul Medium 
Racers I had on this bike.

Everything is in pristine condition.  About 550 miles on it.

On Saturday, August 24, 2019 at 7:38:24 PM UTC-4, tc wrote:
>
>
> <https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-bCZ1dlgksg0/W42b9PTuygI/Bk4/n6025Bo4_30GDKlDdsp51CUScFR1qmvOQCL4CGAYYCw/s1600/Roadini_Labor_Day_2018.jpeg>
>
> Selling only the Frame, Fork, Headset, Bottom Bracket.  I'm keeping the 
> rest of the components for another project or two.
>
> Fits PBH range 89-96, Saddle height 78-85.
>
> Really sharp, unique "Wolfpack Red" custom $350 paint and decal job by 
> Rick Stefani at D Painting.  Decals are under final layers of clear coat.
>
> This started life as a blue frameset that I bought new from Riv.  Rick 
> picked it up, sanded/painted/decaled it, returned it to Riv, and they 
> shipped it to me (with components I'm keeping for another project).
>
> It has about 500 miles on it.  No scratches nor dents.
>   
> Spec highlights:
> - 1" threaded headset as provided by Riv
> - Bottom bracket as provided by Riv (110 UN-55?  Not sure)
> - 130 rear spacing
> - Requires:
> - 31.8 font derailleur clamp
> - 26.8 seat post
> - Caliper or centerpull with 57mm reach
> - 23mm or narrower rims
>
> See it in various configurations here:
> https://photos.app.goo.gl/9xvXzfgMVWx8hAdW7
>
> Asking $750 + shipping.
>
> Tom
>

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[RBW] Re: The last of the phenomenal Clem H’s

Jason,
Very nice build.  What bb, bb width, and chainring do you have there?  Your 
seat post must be maxed out - is that the 300mm S65?

Tom

On Monday, January 6, 2020 at 12:27:18 AM UTC-5, Jason Fuller wrote:
>
> I bought the third-to-last green 45 frameset on December 23, and am 
> surprised the remaining two are still available!  It was not the value for 
> me that it is for others, being Canadian, as I paid a terrible exchange 
> rate and obscene shipping / duty - but I still feel like it's a good 
> investment. It's been built into the most ideal commuter I could possibly 
> imagine. 
>
>
>

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[RBW] Re: daily post ur riv

Reid, you kept it!  Really smart looking Sam.

Tom

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[RBW] Re: Tires

Hey Carla,
I've have a set of Jon Bon Pass ELs (35mm) on my Roadini ...Awesome, light, 
quiet, grippy, no flats ... and very cushy, zippy.  Like they're not 
there.  I have about 500 mi on them.  Highly recommend.

I have a set of Snoqualmie Pass (44mm) standard casing tires on my wife's 
58 Sam, on my 62 Sam, and now on my 59 Clem (on the Clem, replacing 2.25 
Schwalbe G-One Speeds (also nice), so I can fender it).  Awesome, really 
cushy, no flats.  I had almost gotten used to how velvet smooth they are; 
then my wife rode them the first time (after the stock Kendas - yuck) -- 
and she was amazed at the difference in comfort.

The 'basketball tire' (Continental Sport Contact II) that Riv sells is 
actually a very nice tire for the money.  I had them on my SimpleOne for a 
while.  If that's your price range, I'd go for it.

Tom

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Re: [RBW] Anyone using a RBW Nitto Basket Rack on a Clem H?

David, 
I didn't have a basket on the rear.  I use the Banjo Brothers Market 
Panniers 
,
 
which are well-made, light, attach/detach quickly, relatively inexpensive, 
and ride low.

Tom

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[RBW] Velocity Quill experiences?

Thanks to those who replied!  The height of the Wuill maybe be a negative 
factor; have to check. All else seems great. 

Tom

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[RBW] Anyone using a RBW Nitto Basket Rack on a Clem H?

I have used the Nitto big (rear) rack on my Toyo Atlantis and have hauled 30 
lbs of groceries like it wasnt’t there. I don’t know if it’s aesthetics or 
what, but people seem to want to carry heavy stuff up front. I don’t know why. 
Carry heavy stuff on rear racks, and most Rivs designed to carry some amount of 
load will be very happy!

Tom

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[RBW] Re: New ROADEO

Bill, since you've put mileage on both a Rodeo and Roadini, what 
significant differences in handling, comfort, and feel would you list?

Thanks,
Tom

On Thursday, January 9, 2020 at 10:20:46 PM UTC-5, Bill Lindsay wrote:
>
> When I got my Nobilette Legolas, I asked myself "why don't they have Nobi 
> build the Roadeo also?"  I don't think Waterford has historically treated 
> Rivendell all that well, and I try to avoid Waterford Rivendells for that 
> reason, purely spite.  I'll seriously think about upgrading my Waterford 
> Roadeo to a Nobilette Roadeo.  Let me know if you are dying for a 59.  I'd 
> pay $1000 for the karma upgrade, so $1800 shipped for my Waterford Roadeo 
> frame fork and chris king headset.  
>
> Bill Lindsay
> El Cerrito, CA
>
> On Thursday, January 9, 2020 at 4:04:03 PM UTC-8, Jock Dewey wrote:
>>
>> Hey, Y'all:
>>
>> Pic of new Nobilette ROADEO on the site, with RH crankset and RH tires. 
>> So there ya go!
>>
>> All good, right?
>>
>> Jock Dewey / Athens, GA
>>
>

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[RBW] Re: Can we talk about long wheelbases?

2020-01-07 Thread tc

Adam, thx for that video!  Passing racer boys on a fat-tired Clem L “cruiser”, 
no less. 

Tom

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[RBW] FS: Green 59 Clem H

Very happy to report this is no longer for sale. Finally sold my Krampus, so 
Clem gets to stay. 

Tom

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[RBW] Re: The last of the phenomenal Clem H’s

The 52 would be perfect. She’s 5’-10” with a 88.7 PBH...long femurs. She rides 
a 58 Sam now, and has ridden my 59 Clem H, but it’s a hair too long. 

Tom

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[RBW] Re: The last of the phenomenal Clem H’s

Oops - right Joe, $750 for the 45s. Thanks 拉

Trying to talk my wife into one of the 52s ... Slap some Switchback Hills on 
there and it’d be like driving a Cadillac.  

Tom

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[RBW] Re: The last of the phenomenal Clem H’s

Right, and the 45s are on sale for  ***$700*** which is just crazy.  The 
52s and 59s are $900 apiece, but still such a friggin' bargain, I can't 
believe they're still available.

Tom

On Sunday, January 5, 2020 at 2:45:43 PM UTC-5, Philip Williamson wrote:
>
> Those are really hard to find on the site. It looks like there are only 5 
> dark green ones left, and it isn’t even noon. 
> https://www.rivbike.com/products/clem-smith-jr-h-frameset 
>
> Philip 
> Santa Rosa, CA

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[RBW] The last of the phenomenal Clem H’s

As of this morning, there are only a precious few Clem H frames left:
45: 2 green franes
52: 3 green frames
59: 3 grilver frames

After these are gone, that’s it for the Clem H.  

I know there are a lot of L frame lovers out there for various reasons, but you 
should not discount the H.  Unbelievable value, awesome bike for the money!

Tom

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[RBW] WTB 62 or 60 Sam Hillborne.

2020-01-04 Thread tc

Max is selling his 2015 black 62:
https://groups.google.com/forum/m/#!topic/rbw-owners-bunch/WC7xcrahvYM

Tom

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[RBW] Re: WTB: C19 (2)

2020-01-04 Thread tc

Hey Justin, PM sent.

Tom

On Saturday, January 4, 2020 at 4:39:08 PM UTC-5, Justin, Oakland wrote:
>
> Hey folks- 
> Looking for 2 Brooks Cambium C19 saddles. I would like 1 to be the 
> All-Weather Carved version, the other I’m not picky about. Would love to 
> grab a short-nosed “women’s version” if anyone is still holding that 
> discontinued model. 
>
> Thanks! 
> -Justin, Oakland

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[RBW] Velocity Quill experiences?

2020-01-03 Thread tc

I now have a 62 MIT Atlantis frame.  I'm gonna order a new Rich-built 
wheelset for it.  Velocity Quill?  Cliffhanger?  

I'm leaning toward Quill because they fit a wider range of tires, esp. 
narrower ones in case I want to go crazy and fender it.  Also, Quills are 
lighter by a pound, seem to be strong enough (I'm not gonna tour with heavy 
loads).  Jan's article, "Myth 18: Wide Tires Need Wide Rims 
" 
started me on this path.  A chart in that article says a 21mm inside width 
(what the Quill has) should be able to handle a 64mm ((!) tire ... though 
Velocity recommends up to 47...which seems very conservative to me.  I'm 
running Dyads and 2.1 Nano's on my Toyo Atlantis...super combination.  

I won't be putting a 64 tire on a Quill, but will think strongly about the 
55 Antelope Hills.  Also have some 29x2 G-One Speeds to consider.

Anyone have any experience with Quills?

Thanks,
Tom


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[RBW] Saddle Position Question

2020-01-02 Thread tc

Yep, continue tilting the nose up no more than 1/8” at a time till it feels 
right. I know that doesn’t sound like much, but you need to do this in small 
increments. You’ll know it when you’ve reached the right tilt for you. 
Everyone’s different...

Tom

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Re: [RBW] There’s a new man in my life, and his name is Clem

2020-01-02 Thread tc

I’ve also read where some folks keep a small piece of rigid foam in their bike 
bag to wedge between tire and fender to equalize the “pressure” exerted on the 
fender by the 1Up bar. Quotes around “pressure” because you don’t need that 
much...certainly not enough to damage a fender. Nice idea, but I never had to 
use it. 

Tom “who spells moot like mute, and may his English teacher mother forgive him 
- again”

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[RBW] Re: Narrow-wide 1x chain ring question

Adam, 
Oven cleaner!  Interesting.  I've seen various references about soaking in 
various highly caustic liquids, bead or sand blasting, polishing by hand or 
wheel, etc..  I'm hoping for a ready-made solution.  That's a great 
fall-back plan though.

Thanks,
Tom

On Wednesday, January 1, 2020 at 11:32:03 AM UTC-5, Adam in Indiana wrote:
>
> I've ordered a Deckas brand narrow-wide off eBay before ($20ish), and then 
> soaked it in oven cleaner to remove the black anodise.  It was for a 
> five-arm Sugino crank, 110 bcd. 
>
> After the anodization is removed it'll have a rough texture to it, but 
> some high-grit paper and metal polish will clean it up.
>

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Re: [RBW] There’s a new man in my life, and his name is Clem

Um...well, *Sparky *should be able to whir there on it's own, or, it can go 
on a car top rack, so you really only need a 3-bike hitch mount rack!  Hey, 
thinkin' outside the box here, only because I want you to experience the 
relative nirvana that is the 1Up system.  Do you take 4 bikes more often 
than 1, 2, or 3?  And how often does Sparky come along when you use a rack?

Sounds like it's a mute point for you now, but for others reading, many 
people have tried and liked the 1Up fender cushions, so I guess it's 
personal taste.  I suppose if you had really weak fender struts, or struts 
that aren't tightened properly, that might be a problem.  But I know 
first-hand that SKS fenders and struts are fine with the fender cushions 
... and they're probably the 'weakest', compared to Honjo or VO or Berthoud 
fender struts.

Tom

On Wednesday, January 1, 2020 at 11:25:52 AM UTC-5, Bicycle Belle Ding 
Ding! wrote:

> Well, ok, but is the fender cushion a great idea? I’d rather not have the 
> bar press on my fenders at all. Also, I need a 4 bike rack, and while 1 Up 
> can make that possible, it has 50 lb weight restrictions per bike. I think 
> the ebike is more than 50 but less than Saris’ 60 lb limit. 1 Up says if 
> one bike is over 50, you can’t use more than one add-on - therefore, 3 
> bikes on the rack. 
>
>

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[RBW] Narrow-wide 1x chain ring question

I'm contemplating a 1x8/9 setup, and cannot seem to find a narrow-wide
chain ring that meets all of these criteria:

- 36+ teeth
- 5-bolt 110 bcd (not deal breaker, but nice to reuse existing arms)
- Fits non-direct mount, square taper JIS crank arms, like the Silver or
Sugino brand cranks many of of us have already
- 8/9/10 spd chain compatibility
- Silver color (anodized or polished)
- Good quality

Hopefully some of you have searched for something like this before and
found it.

Sugino doesn't seem to make narrow-wide rings, or at least Google
Translator and their pictures lead you to believe that.

Raceface & Wolftooth don't make this in silver. As an aside: Wolftooth
recommends using a 10spd chain in 1x9 setups so the (slightly tighter)
chain holds their ring better.

VO doesn't seems to offer a narrow-wide ring.

Hope doesn't offer this in silver.

I love White Ind. cranks and rings, but they're direct-mount arms.

Some company could fill a niche here, I'm thinking...

I have a Sugino XD3BX-701D
46/36 on order,
which I may end up using for a 2x setup instead, but wanted to see if any
of you have found a 1x crank and narrow-wide ring per above.

Thanks for your thoughts, and Happy New Year!
Tom

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Re: [RBW] There’s a new man in my life, and his name is Clem