[RBW] 59 vs. 52 Clem L

2017-08-05 Thread Jay Connolly
6'5" -- I'll still be using an upright bar, but nothing  as extreme as the 
Bosco. I'll make my final decision when I see the geo numbers for the 64. 

Jay

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[RBW] 59 vs. 52 Clem L

2017-08-05 Thread iamkeith
Jay, i dont recall how tall you are, but i'd be careful regarding that logic, 
if your goal is to not have an upright position.  If you are between sizes, the 
longer top tube will almost certainly force you to use reach-back bars like 
boscos.  Those put you quite upright on their own.  Then, add in the taller 
head tube/stack height, and the effect is compounded.

My 59 clem H is just slightly too big for me at 6'-2" ish, and i had to go to 
great lengths to get my bars low enough (longest available negative-rise 
technomic  stem, slammed almost to bottom of extension, and bars rotated well 
downward.)

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[RBW] 59 vs. 52 Clem L

2017-08-05 Thread Jay Connolly
I have recently put my name on the list for a Clem 64 L, which will be 
available in the fall. Originally I ordered a 59, but I wanted to double-check 
the sizing. In an email exchange, Grant told me that most people will fit two 
sizes of Clem, which makes sense to me. I don't love church-pew uprightness 
(uprighteousness?) on bikes, so I opted for the longer bike. 

Jay

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[RBW] 59 vs. 52 Clem L

2017-08-05 Thread Tony DeFilippo
My wife has the 52 Clementine and I am very happy riding it at 6'/89-90pbh... 
It's a very versatile size, probably fits 80% of the adult population.  And 
650b is fun!

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[RBW] 59 vs. 52 Clem L

2017-08-05 Thread Garth
I don't understand wesleya, close to what ? Your top tub clearance doesn't 
matter on the -L , so it's all about your reach and bar height and your choice 
of bars.  
I cannot imagine a 52 would suit anyone of your height.  
I like the idea of the Clem frames, but not a fan of the limited size choices 
and the huge jump between sizes. 

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Re: [RBW] 59 vs. 52 Clem L

2017-08-04 Thread Sky Coulter
I think Joe's right about choosing on the basis of the effective top tube. I've 
got a 59 clementine set up for a child front seat w stock boscobars and i use a 
lugged nitto seatpost pushed all the way back. 6'2" but c a shorter pbh of 
88-89.

I'd think the larger size would work better, but I'm sure it'll work either way.

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> On Aug 4, 2017, at 7:18 PM, Joe Bernard  wrote:
> 
> Ugh, I wish I could edit these things. My first H was 45cm, now I'm getting a 
> 52 L. And I missed that you're building up a frame, not buying complete. 
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[RBW] 59 vs. 52 Clem L

2017-08-04 Thread Joe Bernard
Ugh, I wish I could edit these things. My first H was 45cm, now I'm getting a 
52 L. And I missed that you're building up a frame, not buying complete. 

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[RBW] 59 vs. 52 Clem L

2017-08-04 Thread Joe Bernard
My comparison won't be exact, but maybe it can help you think about it. I was 
in range but on the taller end of a Clem H and it ended up being to cramped 
with Choco-Moose and Albatross bars..it *definitely* wouldn't have worked with 
Boscos.

Later I rode a 52 H with Boscos at RBW and it was great. I have a 52 Clem L on 
order now. 

So my advice - especially considering stepover isn't an issue on L models - is 
to check the virtual toptube lengths and buy the biggest Clem you think you can 
ride, especially if you're doing a complete with the stock Bosco Bars. Those 
babies reach WAY back. 

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[RBW] 59 vs. 52 Clem L

2017-08-04 Thread wesleya
I'm on the fence. I can build up a 59 Clem L, but for a 52 I'd need to spring 
for the wheels. I'm 5' 10", 84 stand over, so I'm close. Can anyone point me in 
the right direction? 

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