Re: [RBW] 650b Atlantis Pic on the BLUG

[William!]

Ended up doing the conversion. Running 2.25 inch Thunder Burts the B.B. height 
is about 11 inches. That’s maybe half an inch lower than I was used to (700c x 
48mm), but still plenty of clearance for the rough roads and loaded touring I 
use it for.

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW 
Owners Bunch" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com.
Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

Re: [RBW] 650b Atlantis Pic on the BLUG

[RichS]

Paul Moto-Lites work. I played with the conversion on my 53 Atlantis a couple 
of years ago. It was successful but short lived. I didn’t care for the change 
in height so went back to the 26”/canti configuration and that’s where it is 
today.

Regards,
Richard

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW 
Owners Bunch" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com.
Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

Re: [RBW] 650b Atlantis Pic on the BLUG

[Ian A]

I just can't see 650b presenting anything but good things, then! 

FWIW, I used to follow the Surly Groups page and there was a fellow who had 
bought a 700c Disc Trucker. He had a 559 wheelset and a 622 wheelset and 
changed them depending on the task. 622 for commuting and 559 for carrying a 
camping load into the bush. The load was significant apparently as he carried 
gear and food for him, his wife and their child, so the wide rubber and smaller 
wheel worked for him. 

IanA

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW 
Owners Bunch" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com.
Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

Re: [RBW] 650b Atlantis Pic on the BLUG

[drew]

This is exciting. I have a 650b Atlantis on order. My semi secret plan (I'm 
aware it's somewhat apocryphal) was to get a disc fork made for it down the 
line and keep v's or canti's in the rear. I'd Keep the og fork as is in case 
the change is dumb. Right now that seems about as close to dream bike as I can 
get.

I've been hesitant to consider frame modifications on the Atlantis that I don't 
even have yet, but I'd love to see pics of the disclantis. Might push me over 
the edge.  

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW 
Owners Bunch" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com.
Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

Re: [RBW] 650b Atlantis Pic on the BLUG

[William Henderson]

You’d be surprised! Most folks look right at it and never notice the
difference…

On Mon, Nov 27, 2017 at 1:28 PM Joe Bernard  wrote:

> I'm trying to figure out how there's a disc Riv out there somewhere and we
> never heard about it!
>
> --
> You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the
> Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group.
> To unsubscribe from this topic, visit
> https://groups.google.com/d/topic/rbw-owners-bunch/cgIyX0KDwp4/unsubscribe
> .
> To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to
> rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
> To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com.
> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch.
> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
>

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW 
Owners Bunch" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com.
Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

Re: [RBW] 650b Atlantis Pic on the BLUG

[Paul Choi]

Joe,

I think the Crust Romanceur is the closest you can get to a Disc Atlantis. 
Here is their description from their site. $1275 f/f. I have been looking 
at this and the new VO Polyvalent 650b as a disc option. The new Polyvalent 
will be out in the spring at $725 f/f.  

The Romanceür frame has a standard 1″ threaded steerer, meant for quill 
stems.All sizes have level top tubes.Bottom bracket height, standover 
clearance, and trail are all calculated with a 340mm (13.4″) radius tire. 
The Romanceür was designed to have generous clearance for fenders around 26 
x 2.3″ tires. 650b x 48 tires with fenders should fit equally well, and 
even larger tires will fit fine without fenders.68mm standard threaded 
BB27.2 seat post diameter.Disc brakes. Ornate lugs.Rear spacing 135.Front 
spacing 100. Reynolds 853  double butted oversized tubing. 

On Monday, November 27, 2017 at 1:28:30 PM UTC-8, Joe Bernard wrote:
>
> I'm trying to figure out how there's a disc Riv out there somewhere and we 
> never heard about it! 

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW 
Owners Bunch" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com.
Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

Re: [RBW] 650b Atlantis Pic on the BLUG

[Benz, Sunnyvale, CA]

On Monday, November 27, 2017 at 1:13:30 PM UTC-8, Leslie wrote:
>
> If you had an older Atlantis that was a 56 or under, ie, a 26"-wheeled 
> bike, you could use the Paul Motolites and run it as a 650b (if I ever run 
> across a cheap 56 Atlantis, I'd consider doing such).  I wouldn't try to 
> run a 700c Atlantis as a 650b.
>
> (Realize, I have to caveat things everytime I open my mouth, but this is 
> coming from a guy who converted his 700c Ram to 650b Hetres, and then for 
> awhile borrowed the 700c wheels for the 650b Bomba w/ Motolites, just to 
> see how it'd be, and it was fine...) 
>

Well, I believe the original intent of converting a 700c Atlantis to 650b 
is to get fatter and cushier tires. Tires with more of that new-fanged free 
air, to paraphrase Grant. Therefore, converting a 26" Atlantis to 650b 
doesn't make too much sense, especially with the selection of 26" tires we 
have now (such as the Compass Naches Pass 
).
 
Having stated that, I know that Ron Lau had converted his Joe Stark 
26"-wheeled Rivendell to 650b 
, and reported good 
results. Apparently, new brake arms with longer adjustment slots were 
enough to execute this change.

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW 
Owners Bunch" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com.
Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

Re: [RBW] 650b Atlantis Pic on the BLUG

[David B]

I believe that part only works on remove-able canti studs, which a Riv 
would not have.


On Monday, November 27, 2017 at 2:56:13 PM UTC-6, Max S wrote:
>
> Here’s the widget I was thinking of: 
>
> http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5481/12056493355_711665c0d3.jpg 
>
> And another implementation: 
>
> https://forums.thepaceline.net/showthread.php?t=166014 
>
> These can help if converting 700c to 650b. But mind the bb drop, as 
> pointed out above. 
>
> - Max 
>
>

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW 
Owners Bunch" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com.
Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

Re: [RBW] 650b Atlantis Pic on the BLUG

[dougP]

Bill:

Not that I'm likely to try this notion, but it would seem as long as you 
used a 650b tire that yielded the same OD as the 700c it replaced, the BB 
would not drop.  622 - 584 = 38 mm.  Granted, that's a substantial increase 
in tire size, and most Atlantans are probable running something in the 
35-45 mm width range already.  Assuming a 40 mm tire on a 622 mm rim, the 
OD will be around 700 mm.  So a comparable 650b would be around 60 mm.  All 
of this is theoretical & ignores that tires are often not true to size.  

Is my logic right on this?  Or did I miss something important?

dougP

On Monday, November 27, 2017 at 12:31:52 PM UTC-8, Bill Lindsay wrote:
>
> William! asked "Can anyone comment on what geometry changes Rivendell made 
> to accommodate the smaller wheel size?"
>
> Obviously you are already looking at the Geometry Chart, right?  
> https://www.rivbike.com/pages/geometry
>
> The biggest difference to accommodate smaller diameter TIRES is BB drop.  
> The 650B Atlantis has 67mm of BB drop.  The 700C Atlantis has 80mm of 
> drop.  The 26" Atlantis has 48mm of drop.  A 700C Atlantis has more BB drop 
> than any frameset I know of.  Running smaller wheels on a bike with more 
> drop than 99.5% of bikes out there is a great recipe for pedal strikes.  If 
> you don't worry about pedal strikes, go for it.  
>
> Bill Lindsay
> El Cerrito, CA
>
> On Monday, November 27, 2017 at 9:42:04 AM UTC-8, William! wrote:
>>
>> Somewhat off topic, but has anyone here converted an Atlantis to 650b? 
>> I've got a larger (61cm) Atlantis and I've been thinking of building a 
>> second set of wheels – mainly so that I can run knobby tires without 
>> hitting fender clearance issues. Can anyone comment on what geometry 
>> changes Rivendell made to accommodate the smaller wheel size?
>>
>> William
>>
>> On Monday, November 27, 2017 at 9:01:58 AM UTC-8, Max S wrote:
>>>
>>> So, anyone ride a 650b Atlantis yet?.. ride reports? 
>>>
>>> I was tempted by the 58 cm b-nut Appaloosa for sale, but not digging the 
>>> double top tube aesthetic, and not completely sold on the super-long chain 
>>> stays. Now that I’m laid up with a freshly broken collarbone now and the 
>>> perennial “simplification” urge struck - sell a couple of bikes to replace 
>>> with a single 59 cm 650b Atlantis, run 2 wheelsets (42, 48/52/60mm if it 
>>> fits)?.. 
>>>
>>> - Max 
>>
>>

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW 
Owners Bunch" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com.
Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

Re: [RBW] 650b Atlantis Pic on the BLUG

[Joe Bernard]

I'm trying to figure out how there's a disc Riv out there somewhere and we 
never heard about it! 

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW 
Owners Bunch" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com.
Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

Re: [RBW] 650b Atlantis Pic on the BLUG

[Leslie]

If you had an older Atlantis that was a 56 or under, ie, a 26"-wheeled 
bike, you could use the Paul Motolites and run it as a 650b (if I ever run 
across a cheap 56 Atlantis, I'd consider doing such).  I wouldn't try to 
run a 700c Atlantis as a 650b.

(Realize, I have to caveat things everytime I open my mouth, but this is 
coming from a guy who converted his 700c Ram to 650b Hetres, and then for 
awhile borrowed the 700c wheels for the 650b Bomba w/ Motolites, just to 
see how it'd be, and it was fine...) 




On Monday, November 27, 2017 at 12:42:04 PM UTC-5, William! wrote:
>
> Somewhat off topic, but has anyone here converted an Atlantis to 650b? 
> I've got a larger (61cm) Atlantis and I've been thinking of building a 
> second set of wheels – mainly so that I can run knobby tires without 
> hitting fender clearance issues. Can anyone comment on what geometry 
> changes Rivendell made to accommodate the smaller wheel size?
>
> William
>
> On Monday, November 27, 2017 at 9:01:58 AM UTC-8, Max S wrote:
>>
>> So, anyone ride a 650b Atlantis yet?.. ride reports? 
>>
>> I was tempted by the 58 cm b-nut Appaloosa for sale, but not digging the 
>> double top tube aesthetic, and not completely sold on the super-long chain 
>> stays. Now that I’m laid up with a freshly broken collarbone now and the 
>> perennial “simplification” urge struck - sell a couple of bikes to replace 
>> with a single 59 cm 650b Atlantis, run 2 wheelsets (42, 48/52/60mm if it 
>> fits)?.. 
>>
>> - Max 
>
>

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW 
Owners Bunch" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com.
Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

Re: [RBW] 650b Atlantis Pic on the BLUG

[Max S]

Here’s the widget I was thinking of: 

http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5481/12056493355_711665c0d3.jpg

And another implementation: 

https://forums.thepaceline.net/showthread.php?t=166014

These can help if converting 700c to 650b. But mind the bb drop, as pointed out 
above. 

- Max

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW 
Owners Bunch" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com.
Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

Re: [RBW] 650b Atlantis Pic on the BLUG

[lconley]

If you have a 650b bike with cantilever studs, all you need to do is use 
Paul Motolite linear brakes, you can run 650b, 700c, and probably even the 
old 27". As the wheel diameter gets larger, the tire gets narrower due to 
frame and fork clearance, but the brakes can be adapted to a huge range of 
larger rim diameters just by sliding the shoe clamp up the brake arm..

Laing


>

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW 
Owners Bunch" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com.
Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

Re: [RBW] 650b Atlantis Pic on the BLUG

[dougP]

I did a short ride on a 56 cm 650b Atlantis at RBWHQ, and really liked it.  
I have a 58 cm 700c Atlantis, and the 650b was different somehow, in a good 
way.  I can't put my finger on it but the ride was just nicer.  I believe 
the new designs have slightly longer chainstays, so that may be part of 
it.  They have the geo charts for all of them on the website, including max 
tire sizes.  Not sure the new ones take significantly wider rubber than the 
old.  

Someone here bought that demo bike & was to have posted his findings.  
Maybe I missed it but I never skip anything with "Atlantis" in the subject 
line.

dougP

On Monday, November 27, 2017 at 9:01:58 AM UTC-8, Max S wrote:
>
> So, anyone ride a 650b Atlantis yet?.. ride reports? 
>
> I was tempted by the 58 cm b-nut Appaloosa for sale, but not digging the 
> double top tube aesthetic, and not completely sold on the super-long chain 
> stays. Now that I’m laid up with a freshly broken collarbone now and the 
> perennial “simplification” urge struck - sell a couple of bikes to replace 
> with a single 59 cm 650b Atlantis, run 2 wheelsets (42, 48/52/60mm if it 
> fits)?.. 
>
> - Max 

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW 
Owners Bunch" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com.
Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

Re: [RBW] 650b Atlantis Pic on the BLUG

[Bill Lindsay]

William! asked "Can anyone comment on what geometry changes Rivendell made 
to accommodate the smaller wheel size?"

Obviously you are already looking at the Geometry Chart, right?  
https://www.rivbike.com/pages/geometry

The biggest difference to accommodate smaller diameter TIRES is BB drop.  
The 650B Atlantis has 67mm of BB drop.  The 700C Atlantis has 80mm of 
drop.  The 26" Atlantis has 48mm of drop.  A 700C Atlantis has more BB drop 
than any frameset I know of.  Running smaller wheels on a bike with more 
drop than 99.5% of bikes out there is a great recipe for pedal strikes.  If 
you don't worry about pedal strikes, go for it.  

Bill Lindsay
El Cerrito, CA

On Monday, November 27, 2017 at 9:42:04 AM UTC-8, William! wrote:
>
> Somewhat off topic, but has anyone here converted an Atlantis to 650b? 
> I've got a larger (61cm) Atlantis and I've been thinking of building a 
> second set of wheels – mainly so that I can run knobby tires without 
> hitting fender clearance issues. Can anyone comment on what geometry 
> changes Rivendell made to accommodate the smaller wheel size?
>
> William
>
> On Monday, November 27, 2017 at 9:01:58 AM UTC-8, Max S wrote:
>>
>> So, anyone ride a 650b Atlantis yet?.. ride reports? 
>>
>> I was tempted by the 58 cm b-nut Appaloosa for sale, but not digging the 
>> double top tube aesthetic, and not completely sold on the super-long chain 
>> stays. Now that I’m laid up with a freshly broken collarbone now and the 
>> perennial “simplification” urge struck - sell a couple of bikes to replace 
>> with a single 59 cm 650b Atlantis, run 2 wheelsets (42, 48/52/60mm if it 
>> fits)?.. 
>>
>> - Max 
>
>

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW 
Owners Bunch" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com.
Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

Re: [RBW] 650b Atlantis Pic on the BLUG

[dougP]

"I forgot to mention that it is already running disc brakes"

You converted an Atlantis to disc brakes???  Did you have a new fork made?  

dougP

On Monday, November 27, 2017 at 12:17:15 PM UTC-8, William! wrote:
>
> Right, I forgot to mention that it is already running disc brakes so 
> moving the studs won’t be an issue. If I had a set of 650b wheels sitting 
> around I’d throw them on but in lieu of that I was hoping someone else 
> might already have tried (whether by moving the studs or some other method).
> On Mon, Nov 27, 2017 at 11:08 AM Ian A  
> wrote:
>
>> The canti posts are the issue. It would certainly be possible to move the 
>> posts to the 650b position and use brakes with enough adjustment to 
>> accommodate either 650b wheels or 700c.
>>
>> But, the costs of moving the posts and dealing with painting the frame 
>> and fork afterwards would be significant. As to whether it would 
>> significantly change the ride of the bike, hard to say. The bottom bracket 
>> would sit a fraction lower.
>>
>> 650b rims are predominantly disc only nowadays. There are still rim brake 
>> options available, but personally I think a new bike would be a better 
>> investment. Something like the Black Mountain Cycles Monster Cross Disc 
>> (which I believe is still in prototype phase).
>>
>> Keep the Atlantis the way G intended. It's good that way.
>>
>> IanA
>>
>> --
>> You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the 
>> Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group.
>> To unsubscribe from this topic, visit 
>> https://groups.google.com/d/topic/rbw-owners-bunch/cgIyX0KDwp4/unsubscribe
>> .
>> To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to 
>> rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com .
>> To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com 
>> .
>> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch.
>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
>>
>

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW 
Owners Bunch" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com.
Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

Re: [RBW] 650b Atlantis Pic on the BLUG

[William Henderson]

Right, I forgot to mention that it is already running disc brakes so moving
the studs won’t be an issue. If I had a set of 650b wheels sitting around
I’d throw them on but in lieu of that I was hoping someone else might
already have tried (whether by moving the studs or some other method).
On Mon, Nov 27, 2017 at 11:08 AM Ian A  wrote:

> The canti posts are the issue. It would certainly be possible to move the
> posts to the 650b position and use brakes with enough adjustment to
> accommodate either 650b wheels or 700c.
>
> But, the costs of moving the posts and dealing with painting the frame and
> fork afterwards would be significant. As to whether it would significantly
> change the ride of the bike, hard to say. The bottom bracket would sit a
> fraction lower.
>
> 650b rims are predominantly disc only nowadays. There are still rim brake
> options available, but personally I think a new bike would be a better
> investment. Something like the Black Mountain Cycles Monster Cross Disc
> (which I believe is still in prototype phase).
>
> Keep the Atlantis the way G intended. It's good that way.
>
> IanA
>
> --
> You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the
> Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group.
> To unsubscribe from this topic, visit
> https://groups.google.com/d/topic/rbw-owners-bunch/cgIyX0KDwp4/unsubscribe
> .
> To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to
> rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
> To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com.
> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch.
> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
>

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW 
Owners Bunch" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com.
Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

Re: [RBW] 650b Atlantis Pic on the BLUG

[Ian A]

The canti posts are the issue. It would certainly be possible to move the posts 
to the 650b position and use brakes with enough adjustment to accommodate 
either 650b wheels or 700c.

But, the costs of moving the posts and dealing with painting the frame and fork 
afterwards would be significant. As to whether it would significantly change 
the ride of the bike, hard to say. The bottom bracket would sit a fraction 
lower.

650b rims are predominantly disc only nowadays. There are still rim brake 
options available, but personally I think a new bike would be a better 
investment. Something like the Black Mountain Cycles Monster Cross Disc (which 
I believe is still in prototype phase).

Keep the Atlantis the way G intended. It's good that way.

IanA

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW 
Owners Bunch" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com.
Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

Re: [RBW] 650b Atlantis Pic on the BLUG

[Max S]

There’s a widget for doing that honest. Just don’t recall the name... 

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW 
Owners Bunch" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com.
Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

Re: [RBW] 650b Atlantis Pic on the BLUG

[Tim Gavin]

Atlantii are not easily convert-able, because of cantilever brakes.

On Mon, Nov 27, 2017 at 11:42 AM, William! 
wrote:

> Somewhat off topic, but has anyone here converted an Atlantis to 650b?
> I've got a larger (61cm) Atlantis and I've been thinking of building a
> second set of wheels – mainly so that I can run knobby tires without
> hitting fender clearance issues. Can anyone comment on what geometry
> changes Rivendell made to accommodate the smaller wheel size?
>
> William
>
> On Monday, November 27, 2017 at 9:01:58 AM UTC-8, Max S wrote:
>>
>> So, anyone ride a 650b Atlantis yet?.. ride reports?
>>
>> I was tempted by the 58 cm b-nut Appaloosa for sale, but not digging the
>> double top tube aesthetic, and not completely sold on the super-long chain
>> stays. Now that I’m laid up with a freshly broken collarbone now and the
>> perennial “simplification” urge struck - sell a couple of bikes to replace
>> with a single 59 cm 650b Atlantis, run 2 wheelsets (42, 48/52/60mm if it
>> fits)?..
>>
>> - Max
>
> --
> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups
> "RBW Owners Bunch" group.
> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an
> email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
> To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com.
> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch.
> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
>

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW 
Owners Bunch" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com.
Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

Re: [RBW] 650b Atlantis Pic on the BLUG

[William!]

Somewhat off topic, but has anyone here converted an Atlantis to 650b? I've 
got a larger (61cm) Atlantis and I've been thinking of building a second 
set of wheels – mainly so that I can run knobby tires without hitting 
fender clearance issues. Can anyone comment on what geometry changes 
Rivendell made to accommodate the smaller wheel size?

William

On Monday, November 27, 2017 at 9:01:58 AM UTC-8, Max S wrote:
>
> So, anyone ride a 650b Atlantis yet?.. ride reports? 
>
> I was tempted by the 58 cm b-nut Appaloosa for sale, but not digging the 
> double top tube aesthetic, and not completely sold on the super-long chain 
> stays. Now that I’m laid up with a freshly broken collarbone now and the 
> perennial “simplification” urge struck - sell a couple of bikes to replace 
> with a single 59 cm 650b Atlantis, run 2 wheelsets (42, 48/52/60mm if it 
> fits)?.. 
>
> - Max 

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW 
Owners Bunch" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com.
Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

Re: [RBW] 650b Atlantis Pic on the BLUG

[Max S]

So, anyone ride a 650b Atlantis yet?.. ride reports? 

I was tempted by the 58 cm b-nut Appaloosa for sale, but not digging the double 
top tube aesthetic, and not completely sold on the super-long chain stays. Now 
that I’m laid up with a freshly broken collarbone now and the perennial 
“simplification” urge struck - sell a couple of bikes to replace with a single 
59 cm 650b Atlantis, run 2 wheelsets (42, 48/52/60mm if it fits)?.. 

- Max 

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW 
Owners Bunch" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com.
Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

Re: [RBW] 650b Atlantis Pic on the BLUG

[Frank Brose]

Do it Max. You won't look back or be sorry. I have a 56 26" and love it but 
I also love 650b wheels as I have a couple of bikes with those as well. 
I'll be hard pressed to not sell mine and pony up the extra cash for a 650b 
model. I'll wait for the geometry charts.
Frank

On Sunday, November 6, 2016 at 8:34:37 AM UTC-6, Max S wrote:
>
> ooh!... I'd been trying to save up for a 56cm / 650b Hunqapillar, but now 
> that there's a 650b Atlantis... 
>
> - Max
>
> On Friday, November 4, 2016 at 9:42:18 PM UTC-4, drew wrote:
>>
>> Aren't they going proportional? Big-700c, medium-650b, small-26". That 
>> was my take. I have a beloved 700c hunq, but a 56cm with 650b is s 
>> damn tempting. 
>
>

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW 
Owners Bunch" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com.
Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

Re: [RBW] 650b Atlantis Pic on the BLUG

[Max S]

ooh!... I'd been trying to save up for a 56cm / 650b Hunqapillar, but now 
that there's a 650b Atlantis... 

- Max

On Friday, November 4, 2016 at 9:42:18 PM UTC-4, drew wrote:
>
> Aren't they going proportional? Big-700c, medium-650b, small-26". That was 
> my take. I have a beloved 700c hunq, but a 56cm with 650b is s damn 
> tempting. 

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW 
Owners Bunch" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com.
Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

Re: [RBW] 650b Atlantis Pic on the BLUG

[Ray Varella]

Does anyone know which sizes will sport the 650b wheel size?

Ray
Vallejo CA

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW 
Owners Bunch" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com.
Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

Re: [RBW] 650b Atlantis Pic on the BLUG

[twowheeledtexan]

>
> I've had a 56cm 650b Hunq on order since August. Don't know when it'll get 
> here, but can't wait!



On Friday, November 4, 2016 at 6:42:18 PM UTC-7, drew wrote:
>
> Aren't they going proportional? Big-700c, medium-650b, small-26". That was 
> my take. I have a beloved 700c hunq, but a 56cm with 650b is s damn 
> tempting. 

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW 
Owners Bunch" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com.
Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

Re: [RBW] 650b Atlantis Pic on the BLUG

[drew]

It's a 54, and it's essentially perfect. I'll keep it and be happy. Id, I 
think, fit a 56 a little better and I'm a fan of smaller wheels, aesthetically. 
That's all. Zero complaints about my hunq though. 

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW 
Owners Bunch" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com.
Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

Re: [RBW] 650b Atlantis Pic on the BLUG

[iamkeith]

How big is your current Hunq, Drew?  I've  been waiting for a 56 size since day 
1, but am having a hard time seeing the benefit of 650b over 29er wheels for 
the type of riding I'd expect that bike to encounter.  I totally get it with 
the Atlantis, being more road-oriented.  Does the 700c hunq have toe overlap 
problems with the front wheel or something?

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW 
Owners Bunch" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com.
Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

Re: [RBW] 650b Atlantis Pic on the BLUG

[drew]

Aren't they going proportional? Big-700c, medium-650b, small-26". That was my 
take. I have a beloved 700c hunq, but a 56cm with 650b is s damn 
tempting. 

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW 
Owners Bunch" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com.
Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.