Re: [RBW] Fender Install Help (Fender Wedge)
Can you post a few pics of your current setup? It could be that your daruma bolt is too short (which could be solved with a recessed nut). Orthie-- I think this is Rene-- has a pics of daruma-bolt setup on his Betty Foy: http://www.flickr.com/photos/orthie251/8371814700/in/photostream/ Here's Somervillebikes's fender install with a stack of washers-- replace it with your wedge. http://www.flickr.com/photos/7516215@N03/5411771107/in/photostream/ There's also a pic of the recessed nut on daruma bolt: http://www.flickr.com/photos/7516215@N03/5403383604/in/photostream/ On Friday, February 8, 2013 11:08:50 AM UTC-5, Minh wrote: Shoji's diagram (thanks i remember seeing this before), is how i have it now with with the rubber washer, i'm able to get the fender up tight against the bottom of the fork crown, but i can't swap in the wedge for the flat metal washer with the daruma in there now, when i switch out with a longer daruma, the eyelet is in the wrong spot. I guess i just don;t have the right daruma to use the wedge, i need one with the slot in the daruma a little higher for the combination of fork+ fender that i have, but i appreciate all the input to affirm that it is in fact simple, but that i don't have the right hardware to make it work. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Fender Install Help (Fender Wedge)
I too, would like to see your photos. If you reference the photos on my
Betty that Shoji posted the link for, you'll see that I had to modify the
body of the daruma so the wedge would fit inside the steerer tube due to
the recessed washer on my brake. I also used a recessed washer under the
fender due to the very tight clearance with the Hetres on the Betty, but if
your clearance is larger, this isn't really necessary.
At this point, I'm not sure I understand what your problem is...
René
On Friday, February 8, 2013, Shoji Takahashi wrote:
Can you post a few pics of your current setup? It could be that your
daruma bolt is too short (which could be solved with a recessed nut).
Orthie-- I think this is Rene-- has a pics of daruma-bolt setup on his
Betty Foy:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/orthie251/8371814700/in/photostream/
Here's Somervillebikes's fender install with a stack of washers-- replace
it with your wedge.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/7516215@N03/5411771107/in/photostream/
There's also a pic of the recessed nut on daruma bolt:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/7516215@N03/5403383604/in/photostream/
On Friday, February 8, 2013 11:08:50 AM UTC-5, Minh wrote:
Shoji's diagram (thanks i remember seeing this before), is how i have it
now with with the rubber washer, i'm able to get the fender up tight
against the bottom of the fork crown, but i can't swap in the wedge for the
flat metal washer with the daruma in there now, when i switch out with a
longer daruma, the eyelet is in the wrong spot.
I guess i just don;t have the right daruma to use the wedge, i need one
with the slot in the daruma a little higher for the combination of fork+
fender that i have, but i appreciate all the input to affirm that it is in
fact simple, but that i don't have the right hardware to make it work.
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Re: [RBW] Fender Install Help (Fender Wedge)
So i think the problem is that i don't have as much drop from the bolt inside the fork crown to the fender as you guys have, here's a pic of it now, http://flic.kr/p/dTsLNn i'm actually using a daruma for the fender stay instead of fork crown one, the reason being if i use the longer fork crown one then the fender drops down too low, with this setup the fender is held tight against the fork crown. If i use the longer daruma, the fender hangs low, and i was worried about tire clearance on the inside of the fender if i just kept tightening the bolt. with some amount of spacers i could get it to almost work, but i think the bigger wedge would be needed, in the end i'm happy with the current setup as it's held in place tight now, but i would've preferred the cleaner setup. but i've grown to accept that all fender installations require a certain amount of compromise... On Saturday, February 9, 2013 1:55:06 PM UTC-5, René wrote: I too, would like to see your photos. If you reference the photos on my Betty that Shoji posted the link for, you'll see that I had to modify the body of the daruma so the wedge would fit inside the steerer tube due to the recessed washer on my brake. I also used a recessed washer under the fender due to the very tight clearance with the Hetres on the Betty, but if your clearance is larger, this isn't really necessary. At this point, I'm not sure I understand what your problem is... René On Friday, February 8, 2013, Shoji Takahashi wrote: Can you post a few pics of your current setup? It could be that your daruma bolt is too short (which could be solved with a recessed nut). Orthie-- I think this is Rene-- has a pics of daruma-bolt setup on his Betty Foy: http://www.flickr.com/photos/orthie251/8371814700/in/photostream/ Here's Somervillebikes's fender install with a stack of washers-- replace it with your wedge. http://www.flickr.com/photos/7516215@N03/5411771107/in/photostream/ There's also a pic of the recessed nut on daruma bolt: http://www.flickr.com/photos/7516215@N03/5403383604/in/photostream/ On Friday, February 8, 2013 11:08:50 AM UTC-5, Minh wrote: Shoji's diagram (thanks i remember seeing this before), is how i have it now with with the rubber washer, i'm able to get the fender up tight against the bottom of the fork crown, but i can't swap in the wedge for the flat metal washer with the daruma in there now, when i switch out with a longer daruma, the eyelet is in the wrong spot. I guess i just don;t have the right daruma to use the wedge, i need one with the slot in the daruma a little higher for the combination of fork+ fender that i have, but i appreciate all the input to affirm that it is in fact simple, but that i don't have the right hardware to make it work. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en . For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- Sent from Gmail Mobile -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Fender Install Help (Fender Wedge)
Minh, If the daruma is too long, you can always shorten it with a dremel after measuring how much you need to shorten it after positioning the fender correctly and seeing how much of it extends past the bolt under the fender. Since you don't seem to have a center bolt brake, you have more flexibility to fine tune the adjustment. René -- Sent from Gmail Mobile -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Fender Install Help (Fender Wedge)
Rene, Thanks for responding, i feel really dumb because when i hold it in my hand or read your instructions it sounds really easy but when i go to do it i cannot figure it out. Maybe i have a spatial comprehension issue, but let me try to explain my confusion. The way i have it setup now with the metal washer and rubber washer the fender is held up tight against the fork crown, there is now sag. When i tried swapping it out with the wedge, there are a few things i don't understand. -is the wedge actually bolted down? with the big hole in the center, even when i bolt everything together, i can just lift it off the top of the daruma (before i slide it into the fork crown) -the 'well' in the wedge on the fork-crown side is so deep that if i try to bolt the daruma only, the eyelet on the daruma that the fork-crown-bolt slides through would be below the edge of the wedge, i wouldn't be able to get the bolt through(and the daruma threads would actually be too deep in the underside of the fender. In order to get over the second problem, i added spacers to push the daruma higher into crown, adding as many spacers as possible i am able to get everything bolted and mounted, but it's not tight against the fork crown, it sags 5mm (?), i can force it up by using a third contact point with my front rack, but i'd prefer for it to be tight against the fork on it's own. Are your's tight against the fork crown? Thinking about it now, if i removed the rubber washer and added more spacers it would push it higher into the crown, but then the eyelet on the daruma would't actually hang on the thru bolt. Now i might have the wrong hardware as i've swapped out the different bits with my fenders. I'm trying to do this with a set of VO fenders. and i've tried two different daruma's that i have. Thanks for any tips, in the end (after an hour of fiddling) i just put the rubber+metal washers back in place and tightened everything back togther, i really could've used a picture guide for this, but i've always had issues trying to decipher fender installation instructions! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Fender Install Help (Fender Wedge)
Shoji's diagram (thanks i remember seeing this before), is how i have it now with with the rubber washer, i'm able to get the fender up tight against the bottom of the fork crown, but i can't swap in the wedge for the flat metal washer with the daruma in there now, when i switch out with a longer daruma, the eyelet is in the wrong spot. I guess i just don;t have the right daruma to use the wedge, i need one with the slot in the daruma a little higher for the combination of fork+ fender that i have, but i appreciate all the input to affirm that it is in fact simple, but that i don't have the right hardware to make it work. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Fender Install Help (Fender Wedge)
Ok, so in the middle of winter tweaking, has anyone installed a fender wedge, http://www.renehersestore.com/servlet/the-520/Fender-Wedge-for-underside/Detail on a Hillborne? I can't figure out how to position it to get it to fit, i'd like to replace the rubber washer and get the fender a little tighter in that one spot. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Fender Install Help (Fender Wedge)
I use them on my bikes. I assume you have the daruma already in place and the original flat metal washer + rubber washer, correct? The wedge replaces the metal washer and should fit inside the fork steerer (narrow diameter section) and the thinner edge on the front to help,accomodate the fender's curvature, although in my experience on the Riv bikes you still need to pull the front upwards a bit. If your bike has canti brakes it'll fit perfectly. If your bike has center pull brakes, you'll need to file the front section of the narrower circle as the long nut that tightens the brake pushes it forward and prevents it from fitting inside the steerer. Depending on the clearances, you'll use the black rubber washer or others to close the gap. Let me know if still have questions. René On Thursday, February 7, 2013, Minh wrote: Ok, so in the middle of winter tweaking, has anyone installed a fender wedge, http://www.renehersestore.com/servlet/the-520/Fender-Wedge-for-underside/Detailon a Hillborne? I can't figure out how to position it to get it to fit, i'd like to replace the rubber washer and get the fender a little tighter in that one spot. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com javascript:;. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.comjavascript:; . Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- Sent from Gmail Mobile -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
