[RBW] Hunq vs Clem

2015-03-26 Thread DSat


Anyone can compare the two that has had experience with one or both?  
What's different?  What's the same?  Ride the same?  Ride different?  One 
heavier vs one lighter?  One more upright than the other?  I know the Clem 
is designed for swept back bars such as the Alba's or Bosco.  I know the 
Hunq would be 700 tires vs 650 for the Clem.  I know the Clem has longer 
chainstays.  What would be the reason to spend the extra $$$ for the Hunq 
over the Clem?
I am talking the Hunq 54 vs the Clem 52 (though that probably don't matter)
 
Any input appreciated.

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[RBW] Hunq vs Clem

2015-03-26 Thread Mike Shaljian
I don't feel slow on it. I'm not quite ready to go full heavy upright long 
chainstay crazy big tired out yet.

I plan to post a detailed comparison of my new Jones Plus with the Sam 
Hillborne I've had since 2012, but I can say briefly that a bike can be 
long/stout and fast. I have much respect for and lots of happy riding with 
Grant's designs, but I swear Jeff Jones is a goddamn genius. I was blown away 
by how fast the plus is on the road with 60mm Super Motos and it was a nimble 
beast in my first-ever singletrack outing. 

Haven't done any timed comparisons on my gravel loops, but I would estimate I 
can easily trim my time by 10%, riding at the same effort on the Jones vs. the 
Sam, due to I think both the 50% fatter tire and Jeff Jones Geometry Voodoo 
Magic. I know this is a Rivendell forum, but man, the fun factor on a Jones 
just from the expanded capability has to be ridden to be believed. 29+ has the 
makings of the next big thing and I think a lot of Rivendell people would be 
interested in this type of bike. Jeff Jones is your man!

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[RBW] Hunq vs Clem

2015-03-26 Thread drew beckmeyer
So I have a 54 hunq and my fiancé got the 46 Clem prototype. I can't reeaaallly 
speak to ride because I don't fit the 46. But here are my observations.
Weight-similar
Stoutness-similar
Ride- hunq is potentially more aggressive. Could be a roadish bike with the 
right cockpit and wheels...though there are better options for that...but it 
has that capability.  Feels faster.
The Clem is a much more laid back, cruiserish, town bike. Upright is way 
upright. Stays are extra long. I think it could handle anything, but it wont be 
quick doing those things.
Clearances- easier on the Clem, but similar 

We love both of these bikes dearly. The hunqapillar was bought before the 
Clem's existed, but For me, having a us made, fully lugged frame was somewhat 
important. I prefer the geometry of the hunq coupled with the toughness. I 
don't feel slow on it. I'm not quite ready to go full heavy upright long 
chainstay crazy big tired out yet.
For the fiancé, she doesn't care about road bikes, geometry, clearances etc. 
she wants a bike that can do what mine does, that she will be comfortable on, 
will last, looks good, and doesn't cost, to her, an obscene amount of money. 
Not to imply that caring about those things precludes you from wanting a Clem. 



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