Re: [RBW] I have questions

2024-03-26 Thread Chris Halasz 
Leah

I posted a separate thread announcing the arrival of the new (at least to 
me!) and updated versions of the ubiquitous Gravelkings 
. 

More choices - but some look nice! 

Cheers, 

Chris 

On Tuesday, March 26, 2024 at 8:01:40 AM UTC-7 anthony@gmail.com wrote:

> Oh, man. Those wheels are gonna look ACE!!
>
> I'll chime in anecdotally that the difference between 42-48 isn't super 
> noticeable as long as you get your PSI where it feels comfy for you. Have 
> an amazing time on that 2-day ride.
>
> As for front rack security, I don't use a strap, but I also check bolt 
> tension fairly regularly. The straps are ugly, but are great for peace of 
> mind if you don't check your bolts always before getting out on a ride.
>
> On Wednesday, March 20, 2024 at 9:21:08 AM UTC-7 J wrote:
>
>> You don't say which Gravel King model you are using, but I see in your 
>> Philly post that you have Ultradynamico Cava tires on your bike. So maybe 
>> you run the file tread GK? Anyhow, I rode through 2 sets of 700x42 Gravel 
>> King SK on my old Sam Hillbourne before moving up to 700x50 which just 
>> barely fit. I thought I'd notice a big difference but it turned out not to 
>> be true, as long as I kept the air pressure up. I only have 650b bikes now, 
>> and don't ride Gravel King SK after discovering the Rene Herse file tread 
>> much smoother and faster "feeling". I've switched back and forth from 42 
>> and 48mm RH file treads as well as 42 Gran Bois and have settled on 48mm RH 
>> (Switchback Hill) which measures quite a bit over 48mm on my wheels. The 
>> 42mm tires gave the perception that I was faster but the strava data did 
>> not corroborate, and the 48mm have so much lovely float over gravel 
>> compared to anything narrower or with tooth, I figured why bother? YMMV but 
>> I think 48s won't be an issue. If my words sway you at all towards RH, just 
>> keep in mind that they are not great in wet conditions with steep descents 
>> combined with rim brakes. I learned this twice this fall, and kept RH 
>> knobbies on until a few days ago. 
>>
>> mysterious J
>>
>> On Wednesday, March 20, 2024 at 11:42:19 AM UTC-4 Patrick Moore wrote:
>>
>>> The 60 mm Schwalbe Big Ones that used to be on my dirt road Matthews 
>>> were among the very fastest-rolling tires I've used, including various 
>>> "racing" tires and 2 extralight RH models. I'd say that the right 48 mm 
>>> tire will roll plenty fast. 
>>>
>>> I've not used any Gravel Kings.
>>>
>>> Patrick "it's not my tires that make me slow" Moore
>>>
>>> On Tue, Mar 19, 2024 at 7:10 PM Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! <
>>> jonasa...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
 ... Can 48 mm tires do a 15-17 mph road ride pace? I have 42 on all my 
 other bikes. Would 48s be slow? The ride is a 2 day event, 100 miles 
 total. 
 I’d like to keep the tires if I could, because they’re new and they are 
 fat 
 enough to also double as gravel tires, should I decide to do a gravel ride 
 again. But I do more road rides than anything else, and if those 48s will 
 cripple me, I’ll go back to 42s. What’s the consensus?

>>>

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Re: [RBW] I have questions

2024-03-26 Thread Anthony Holden 
Oh, man. Those wheels are gonna look ACE!!

I'll chime in anecdotally that the difference between 42-48 isn't super 
noticeable as long as you get your PSI where it feels comfy for you. Have 
an amazing time on that 2-day ride.

As for front rack security, I don't use a strap, but I also check bolt 
tension fairly regularly. The straps are ugly, but are great for peace of 
mind if you don't check your bolts always before getting out on a ride.

On Wednesday, March 20, 2024 at 9:21:08 AM UTC-7 J wrote:

> You don't say which Gravel King model you are using, but I see in your 
> Philly post that you have Ultradynamico Cava tires on your bike. So maybe 
> you run the file tread GK? Anyhow, I rode through 2 sets of 700x42 Gravel 
> King SK on my old Sam Hillbourne before moving up to 700x50 which just 
> barely fit. I thought I'd notice a big difference but it turned out not to 
> be true, as long as I kept the air pressure up. I only have 650b bikes now, 
> and don't ride Gravel King SK after discovering the Rene Herse file tread 
> much smoother and faster "feeling". I've switched back and forth from 42 
> and 48mm RH file treads as well as 42 Gran Bois and have settled on 48mm RH 
> (Switchback Hill) which measures quite a bit over 48mm on my wheels. The 
> 42mm tires gave the perception that I was faster but the strava data did 
> not corroborate, and the 48mm have so much lovely float over gravel 
> compared to anything narrower or with tooth, I figured why bother? YMMV but 
> I think 48s won't be an issue. If my words sway you at all towards RH, just 
> keep in mind that they are not great in wet conditions with steep descents 
> combined with rim brakes. I learned this twice this fall, and kept RH 
> knobbies on until a few days ago. 
>
> mysterious J
>
> On Wednesday, March 20, 2024 at 11:42:19 AM UTC-4 Patrick Moore wrote:
>
>> The 60 mm Schwalbe Big Ones that used to be on my dirt road Matthews were 
>> among the very fastest-rolling tires I've used, including various "racing" 
>> tires and 2 extralight RH models. I'd say that the right 48 mm tire will 
>> roll plenty fast. 
>>
>> I've not used any Gravel Kings.
>>
>> Patrick "it's not my tires that make me slow" Moore
>>
>> On Tue, Mar 19, 2024 at 7:10 PM Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! <
>> jonasa...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> ... Can 48 mm tires do a 15-17 mph road ride pace? I have 42 on all my 
>>> other bikes. Would 48s be slow? The ride is a 2 day event, 100 miles total. 
>>> I’d like to keep the tires if I could, because they’re new and they are fat 
>>> enough to also double as gravel tires, should I decide to do a gravel ride 
>>> again. But I do more road rides than anything else, and if those 48s will 
>>> cripple me, I’ll go back to 42s. What’s the consensus?
>>>
>>

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Re: [RBW] I have questions

2024-03-20 Thread DavidP 
Jumping on the "48s are fine" bandwagon: I have a roadish "gravel" bike 
with 650x48s (22mm inner width rims, Panaracer Pari-Moto rear, RH Juniper 
Ridge front) - it's plenty quick on pavement despite not being a dedicated 
paved road bike. At ~160lbs, I run 30psi.

The 650b wheels on the 50cm Platypus will reduce the gyroscopic effect when 
compared with a 700x48 tire, and you get you back some of the "nimbleness" 
Patrick mentioned that can be lost with wider tires. You may notice the 
650x48 handles more nimbly than your 700x42 Platypus (the reduced wheelbase 
will have an effect as well).

-Dave
On Wednesday, March 20, 2024 at 7:05:37 PM UTC-4 Patrick Moore wrote:

> To take into account George's experience: I do use widish rims for the 
> 48s/50s: 27 mm IW Velocity Blunt SS's. But at 20 the Soma SV SLs handle 
> wonderfully on pavement. I agree that as the tires get fatter and the 
> pressures lower, small pressure differences make a big difference in 
> handling. 
>
> On Wed, Mar 20, 2024 at 5:03 PM Patrick Moore  wrote:
>
>> Agree, tho' IME a 48 mm tire will require considerably less pressure than 
>> a 42. I'm 170-175 and put ~35 psi in 42s but only 20 in 48s (that measure 
>> 50 on my rims); this for pavement riding, very supple tires. A lighter 
>> rider can use less.
>>
>> Jan has shown (and my Big Ones also show) that width does not necessarily 
>> affect rolling resistance. What width does do, IME, is reduce the 
>> "nimbleness" of handling.
>>
>> On Wed, Mar 20, 2024 at 1:15 PM Jason Fuller  wrote:
>>
>>> The actual speed difference between a similar quality 48mm and a 42mm 
>>> will be extremely small - I wouldn't sweat it at all! Probably like 0.1 mph 
>>> difference. Most of the perceived difference is all in our heads, based on 
>>> the squish-factor and the buzz they make on pavement, neither of which 
>>> necessarily relate to speed. I would simply air them up to the same 
>>> pressure you run on your 42mm tires for the speedy rides. The Gravel King 
>>> is a reasonably quick tire, no concerns there to me. 
>>>
>>
>>
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Re: [RBW] I have questions

2024-03-20 Thread Patrick Moore 
To take into account George's experience: I do use widish rims for the
48s/50s: 27 mm IW Velocity Blunt SS's. But at 20 the Soma SV SLs handle
wonderfully on pavement. I agree that as the tires get fatter and the
pressures lower, small pressure differences make a big difference in
handling.

On Wed, Mar 20, 2024 at 5:03 PM Patrick Moore  wrote:

> Agree, tho' IME a 48 mm tire will require considerably less pressure than
> a 42. I'm 170-175 and put ~35 psi in 42s but only 20 in 48s (that measure
> 50 on my rims); this for pavement riding, very supple tires. A lighter
> rider can use less.
>
> Jan has shown (and my Big Ones also show) that width does not necessarily
> affect rolling resistance. What width does do, IME, is reduce the
> "nimbleness" of handling.
>
> On Wed, Mar 20, 2024 at 1:15 PM Jason Fuller  wrote:
>
>> The actual speed difference between a similar quality 48mm and a 42mm
>> will be extremely small - I wouldn't sweat it at all! Probably like 0.1 mph
>> difference. Most of the perceived difference is all in our heads, based on
>> the squish-factor and the buzz they make on pavement, neither of which
>> necessarily relate to speed. I would simply air them up to the same
>> pressure you run on your 42mm tires for the speedy rides. The Gravel King
>> is a reasonably quick tire, no concerns there to me.
>>
>
>

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Re: [RBW] I have questions

2024-03-20 Thread Patrick Moore 
Agree, tho' IME a 48 mm tire will require considerably less pressure than a
42. I'm 170-175 and put ~35 psi in 42s but only 20 in 48s (that measure 50
on my rims); this for pavement riding, very supple tires. A lighter rider
can use less.

Jan has shown (and my Big Ones also show) that width does not necessarily
affect rolling resistance. What width does do, IME, is reduce the
"nimbleness" of handling.

On Wed, Mar 20, 2024 at 1:15 PM Jason Fuller  wrote:

> The actual speed difference between a similar quality 48mm and a 42mm will
> be extremely small - I wouldn't sweat it at all! Probably like 0.1 mph
> difference. Most of the perceived difference is all in our heads, based on
> the squish-factor and the buzz they make on pavement, neither of which
> necessarily relate to speed. I would simply air them up to the same
> pressure you run on your 42mm tires for the speedy rides. The Gravel King
> is a reasonably quick tire, no concerns there to me.
>

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Re: [RBW] I have questions

2024-03-20 Thread George Schick 
A few respondents to this thread have referred to "inflation" (and I don't 
mean these horrible price increases we're undergoing), J and Jay...maybe 
it's J used to take my truck to a transmission repair service by that 
name and they did a poor job of serving, but I digress.  Anyway, inflation 
and pressure matter a great deal.  I run 60mm Schwalbe Big Apple balloon 
tires on my Surly 1x1 and if I haven't ridden it for a while and the 
pressure gets down to 20 lbs or so they feel like I'm riding on wheels with 
foam pipe insulation glued to the rims; OTOH if I pump them up to 35 lbs 
(the range recommended on the tire sidewalls) they respond like an 
overinflated basketball that bounces 6ft. when dribbling.  IOW, it's good 
to experiment with various inflation pressures when making the decision 
whether or not a certain tire is a good or bad performer.  Having said 
that, if one rides primarily on smooth roads vs. gravel paths vs. off-road 
trails it would make sense to pick the tire with minimal tread (or smooth) 
for regular riding. 

On Wednesday, March 20, 2024 at 2:15:34 PM UTC-5 Jason Fuller wrote:

> The actual speed difference between a similar quality 48mm and a 42mm will 
> be extremely small - I wouldn't sweat it at all! Probably like 0.1 mph 
> difference. Most of the perceived difference is all in our heads, based on 
> the squish-factor and the buzz they make on pavement, neither of which 
> necessarily relate to speed. I would simply air them up to the same 
> pressure you run on your 42mm tires for the speedy rides. The Gravel King 
> is a reasonably quick tire, no concerns there to me. 
>
> There is no definitive answer on the strap, since it's about risk 
> tolerance, but with the higher load limit of the basket rack as well as the 
> fact that most of the structure is welded with just that little adjustable 
> bit at the bottom ... I would not run a strap with it. I don't think it 
> would fall into the front tire the same way as the small racks do when they 
> fail, plus it's less likely to fail in the first place. It's always a good 
> idea to occasionally check that all the rack fixing bolts are tight, in any 
> case. 
>
> Sorry to hear about Second Winter, as indeed the cherry blossoms are upon 
> us here in Vancouver! 
>
> On Wednesday 20 March 2024 at 12:00:48 UTC-7 JohnS wrote:
>
>> Will has Mark's alternate safety strap in this email news letter, scroll 
>> down to "Mark's safety cable". Looks like a good solution since the cable 
>> housing protects the bike frame from the cable.
>>
>>
>> https://us7.campaign-archive.com/?u=ad1569fa93a2ab2374ead2fde=279bef4181
>>
>> As far as 650B tires go, I recommend Rene Herse Babyshoe Pass 42mm width 
>> tire, extra light casing. They are great for mixed surface rides; road and 
>> hard packed gravel or cinder such as a rail trail. As mentioned already, 
>> they are not so good in mud where they can get squirmy and can loose 
>> traction. I have them on my Crust Lightening Bolt canti which is my bike 
>> for long rides and mixed surfaces. I have Gravel King SK tires on my gravel 
>> bike. They are a very good tire and I use that bike for more challenging 
>> gravel rides where the surface can be looser and the trails are more like 
>> mountain bike single track.
>>
>> Good luck,
>> JohnS
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wednesday, March 20, 2024 at 12:21:08 PM UTC-4 J wrote:
>>
>>> You don't say which Gravel King model you are using, but I see in your 
>>> Philly post that you have Ultradynamico Cava tires on your bike. So maybe 
>>> you run the file tread GK? Anyhow, I rode through 2 sets of 700x42 Gravel 
>>> King SK on my old Sam Hillbourne before moving up to 700x50 which just 
>>> barely fit. I thought I'd notice a big difference but it turned out not to 
>>> be true, as long as I kept the air pressure up. I only have 650b bikes now, 
>>> and don't ride Gravel King SK after discovering the Rene Herse file tread 
>>> much smoother and faster "feeling". I've switched back and forth from 42 
>>> and 48mm RH file treads as well as 42 Gran Bois and have settled on 48mm RH 
>>> (Switchback Hill) which measures quite a bit over 48mm on my wheels. The 
>>> 42mm tires gave the perception that I was faster but the strava data did 
>>> not corroborate, and the 48mm have so much lovely float over gravel 
>>> compared to anything narrower or with tooth, I figured why bother? YMMV but 
>>> I think 48s won't be an issue. If my words sway you at all towards RH, just 
>>> keep in mind that they are not great in wet conditions with steep descents 
>>> combined with rim brakes. I learned this twice this fall, and kept RH 
>>> knobbies on until a few days ago. 
>>>
>>> mysterious J
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, March 20, 2024 at 11:42:19 AM UTC-4 Patrick Moore wrote:
>>>
 The 60 mm Schwalbe Big Ones that used to be on my dirt road Matthews 
 were among the very fastest-rolling tires I've used, including various 
 "racing" tires and 2 extralight RH models. I'd say

Re: [RBW] I have questions

2024-03-20 Thread Jason Fuller 
The actual speed difference between a similar quality 48mm and a 42mm will 
be extremely small - I wouldn't sweat it at all! Probably like 0.1 mph 
difference. Most of the perceived difference is all in our heads, based on 
the squish-factor and the buzz they make on pavement, neither of which 
necessarily relate to speed. I would simply air them up to the same 
pressure you run on your 42mm tires for the speedy rides. The Gravel King 
is a reasonably quick tire, no concerns there to me. 

There is no definitive answer on the strap, since it's about risk 
tolerance, but with the higher load limit of the basket rack as well as the 
fact that most of the structure is welded with just that little adjustable 
bit at the bottom ... I would not run a strap with it. I don't think it 
would fall into the front tire the same way as the small racks do when they 
fail, plus it's less likely to fail in the first place. It's always a good 
idea to occasionally check that all the rack fixing bolts are tight, in any 
case. 

Sorry to hear about Second Winter, as indeed the cherry blossoms are upon 
us here in Vancouver! 

On Wednesday 20 March 2024 at 12:00:48 UTC-7 JohnS wrote:

> Will has Mark's alternate safety strap in this email news letter, scroll 
> down to "Mark's safety cable". Looks like a good solution since the cable 
> housing protects the bike frame from the cable.
>
> https://us7.campaign-archive.com/?u=ad1569fa93a2ab2374ead2fde=279bef4181
>
> As far as 650B tires go, I recommend Rene Herse Babyshoe Pass 42mm width 
> tire, extra light casing. They are great for mixed surface rides; road and 
> hard packed gravel or cinder such as a rail trail. As mentioned already, 
> they are not so good in mud where they can get squirmy and can loose 
> traction. I have them on my Crust Lightening Bolt canti which is my bike 
> for long rides and mixed surfaces. I have Gravel King SK tires on my gravel 
> bike. They are a very good tire and I use that bike for more challenging 
> gravel rides where the surface can be looser and the trails are more like 
> mountain bike single track.
>
> Good luck,
> JohnS
>
>
>
>
> On Wednesday, March 20, 2024 at 12:21:08 PM UTC-4 J wrote:
>
>> You don't say which Gravel King model you are using, but I see in your 
>> Philly post that you have Ultradynamico Cava tires on your bike. So maybe 
>> you run the file tread GK? Anyhow, I rode through 2 sets of 700x42 Gravel 
>> King SK on my old Sam Hillbourne before moving up to 700x50 which just 
>> barely fit. I thought I'd notice a big difference but it turned out not to 
>> be true, as long as I kept the air pressure up. I only have 650b bikes now, 
>> and don't ride Gravel King SK after discovering the Rene Herse file tread 
>> much smoother and faster "feeling". I've switched back and forth from 42 
>> and 48mm RH file treads as well as 42 Gran Bois and have settled on 48mm RH 
>> (Switchback Hill) which measures quite a bit over 48mm on my wheels. The 
>> 42mm tires gave the perception that I was faster but the strava data did 
>> not corroborate, and the 48mm have so much lovely float over gravel 
>> compared to anything narrower or with tooth, I figured why bother? YMMV but 
>> I think 48s won't be an issue. If my words sway you at all towards RH, just 
>> keep in mind that they are not great in wet conditions with steep descents 
>> combined with rim brakes. I learned this twice this fall, and kept RH 
>> knobbies on until a few days ago. 
>>
>> mysterious J
>>
>> On Wednesday, March 20, 2024 at 11:42:19 AM UTC-4 Patrick Moore wrote:
>>
>>> The 60 mm Schwalbe Big Ones that used to be on my dirt road Matthews 
>>> were among the very fastest-rolling tires I've used, including various 
>>> "racing" tires and 2 extralight RH models. I'd say that the right 48 mm 
>>> tire will roll plenty fast. 
>>>
>>> I've not used any Gravel Kings.
>>>
>>> Patrick "it's not my tires that make me slow" Moore
>>>
>>> On Tue, Mar 19, 2024 at 7:10 PM Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! <
>>> jonasa...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
 ... Can 48 mm tires do a 15-17 mph road ride pace? I have 42 on all my 
 other bikes. Would 48s be slow? The ride is a 2 day event, 100 miles 
 total. 
 I’d like to keep the tires if I could, because they’re new and they are 
 fat 
 enough to also double as gravel tires, should I decide to do a gravel ride 
 again. But I do more road rides than anything else, and if those 48s will 
 cripple me, I’ll go back to 42s. What’s the consensus?

>>>

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Re: [RBW] I have questions

2024-03-20 Thread JohnS 
Will has Mark's alternate safety strap in this email news letter, scroll 
down to "Mark's safety cable". Looks like a good solution since the cable 
housing protects the bike frame from the cable.

https://us7.campaign-archive.com/?u=ad1569fa93a2ab2374ead2fde=279bef4181

As far as 650B tires go, I recommend Rene Herse Babyshoe Pass 42mm width 
tire, extra light casing. They are great for mixed surface rides; road and 
hard packed gravel or cinder such as a rail trail. As mentioned already, 
they are not so good in mud where they can get squirmy and can loose 
traction. I have them on my Crust Lightening Bolt canti which is my bike 
for long rides and mixed surfaces. I have Gravel King SK tires on my gravel 
bike. They are a very good tire and I use that bike for more challenging 
gravel rides where the surface can be looser and the trails are more like 
mountain bike single track.

Good luck,
JohnS




On Wednesday, March 20, 2024 at 12:21:08 PM UTC-4 J wrote:

> You don't say which Gravel King model you are using, but I see in your 
> Philly post that you have Ultradynamico Cava tires on your bike. So maybe 
> you run the file tread GK? Anyhow, I rode through 2 sets of 700x42 Gravel 
> King SK on my old Sam Hillbourne before moving up to 700x50 which just 
> barely fit. I thought I'd notice a big difference but it turned out not to 
> be true, as long as I kept the air pressure up. I only have 650b bikes now, 
> and don't ride Gravel King SK after discovering the Rene Herse file tread 
> much smoother and faster "feeling". I've switched back and forth from 42 
> and 48mm RH file treads as well as 42 Gran Bois and have settled on 48mm RH 
> (Switchback Hill) which measures quite a bit over 48mm on my wheels. The 
> 42mm tires gave the perception that I was faster but the strava data did 
> not corroborate, and the 48mm have so much lovely float over gravel 
> compared to anything narrower or with tooth, I figured why bother? YMMV but 
> I think 48s won't be an issue. If my words sway you at all towards RH, just 
> keep in mind that they are not great in wet conditions with steep descents 
> combined with rim brakes. I learned this twice this fall, and kept RH 
> knobbies on until a few days ago. 
>
> mysterious J
>
> On Wednesday, March 20, 2024 at 11:42:19 AM UTC-4 Patrick Moore wrote:
>
>> The 60 mm Schwalbe Big Ones that used to be on my dirt road Matthews were 
>> among the very fastest-rolling tires I've used, including various "racing" 
>> tires and 2 extralight RH models. I'd say that the right 48 mm tire will 
>> roll plenty fast. 
>>
>> I've not used any Gravel Kings.
>>
>> Patrick "it's not my tires that make me slow" Moore
>>
>> On Tue, Mar 19, 2024 at 7:10 PM Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! <
>> jonasa...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> ... Can 48 mm tires do a 15-17 mph road ride pace? I have 42 on all my 
>>> other bikes. Would 48s be slow? The ride is a 2 day event, 100 miles total. 
>>> I’d like to keep the tires if I could, because they’re new and they are fat 
>>> enough to also double as gravel tires, should I decide to do a gravel ride 
>>> again. But I do more road rides than anything else, and if those 48s will 
>>> cripple me, I’ll go back to 42s. What’s the consensus?
>>>
>>

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Re: [RBW] I have questions

2024-03-20 Thread J 
You don't say which Gravel King model you are using, but I see in your 
Philly post that you have Ultradynamico Cava tires on your bike. So maybe 
you run the file tread GK? Anyhow, I rode through 2 sets of 700x42 Gravel 
King SK on my old Sam Hillbourne before moving up to 700x50 which just 
barely fit. I thought I'd notice a big difference but it turned out not to 
be true, as long as I kept the air pressure up. I only have 650b bikes now, 
and don't ride Gravel King SK after discovering the Rene Herse file tread 
much smoother and faster "feeling". I've switched back and forth from 42 
and 48mm RH file treads as well as 42 Gran Bois and have settled on 48mm RH 
(Switchback Hill) which measures quite a bit over 48mm on my wheels. The 
42mm tires gave the perception that I was faster but the strava data did 
not corroborate, and the 48mm have so much lovely float over gravel 
compared to anything narrower or with tooth, I figured why bother? YMMV but 
I think 48s won't be an issue. If my words sway you at all towards RH, just 
keep in mind that they are not great in wet conditions with steep descents 
combined with rim brakes. I learned this twice this fall, and kept RH 
knobbies on until a few days ago. 

mysterious J

On Wednesday, March 20, 2024 at 11:42:19 AM UTC-4 Patrick Moore wrote:

> The 60 mm Schwalbe Big Ones that used to be on my dirt road Matthews were 
> among the very fastest-rolling tires I've used, including various "racing" 
> tires and 2 extralight RH models. I'd say that the right 48 mm tire will 
> roll plenty fast. 
>
> I've not used any Gravel Kings.
>
> Patrick "it's not my tires that make me slow" Moore
>
> On Tue, Mar 19, 2024 at 7:10 PM Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! <
> jonasa...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> ... Can 48 mm tires do a 15-17 mph road ride pace? I have 42 on all my 
>> other bikes. Would 48s be slow? The ride is a 2 day event, 100 miles total. 
>> I’d like to keep the tires if I could, because they’re new and they are fat 
>> enough to also double as gravel tires, should I decide to do a gravel ride 
>> again. But I do more road rides than anything else, and if those 48s will 
>> cripple me, I’ll go back to 42s. What’s the consensus?
>>
>

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Re: [RBW] I have questions

2024-03-20 Thread Patrick Moore 
The 60 mm Schwalbe Big Ones that used to be on my dirt road Matthews were
among the very fastest-rolling tires I've used, including various "racing"
tires and 2 extralight RH models. I'd say that the right 48 mm tire will
roll plenty fast.

I've not used any Gravel Kings.

Patrick "it's not my tires that make me slow" Moore

On Tue, Mar 19, 2024 at 7:10 PM Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! <
jonasandle...@gmail.com> wrote:

> ... Can 48 mm tires do a 15-17 mph road ride pace? I have 42 on all my
> other bikes. Would 48s be slow? The ride is a 2 day event, 100 miles total.
> I’d like to keep the tires if I could, because they’re new and they are fat
> enough to also double as gravel tires, should I decide to do a gravel ride
> again. But I do more road rides than anything else, and if those 48s will
> cripple me, I’ll go back to 42s. What’s the consensus?
>

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