Re: [RBW] New Riv Fixed/Single Speed in 2017???

2016-07-26 Thread ascpgh
Exactly. The closest to being killed while riding a bike was a rear flat on 
my geared disc Karate Monkey at 11 pm on a blowing, -9°F commute home. 

Andy Cheatham
Pittsburgh

On Tuesday, July 26, 2016 at 6:14:31 PM UTC-4, Jeff wrote:
>
> Satan himself has clearly designed the track end- derailleur-hangered rear 
> on my Surly Troll. Mixed with fenders, racks and  disc brakes it is 
> highly functional and curse inducing. Be careful of the deal with the devil
>
> On Tuesday, July 26, 2016, Patrick Moore  
> wrote:
>
>> Oh, please don't use track ends! Use a superexcessivelylong "horizontal" 
>> dropout. So much easier!
>>
>> I had C Mathews retrofit my '03 Riv custom with a longer-than-Campy-1010 
>> dropout; and the 1010 replaced the original Riv vertical. Anyway, room for 
>> prolly 8 teeth difference.
>>
>> On Tue, Jul 26, 2016 at 2:58 PM, iamkeith  wrote:
>>
>>> Having seen a few comments from Grant lately, to the effect of "if you 
>>> want a single-speed, don't shift" I'd be surprised.
>>>
>>> On the other hand, perhaps the "groovy thing that none of our other 
>>> bikes has ever had," for the contemplated Roadini, is a track end dropout 
>>> with a derailleur hanger attached?  
>>>
>>> Alas, I could speculate for ever, but speculation is all it would ever 
>>> be.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, July 26, 2016 at 2:18:24 PM UTC-6, John wrote:

 A friend told me they heard Riv has a fixed and/or single speed in the 
 works for 2017.

 For some reason, he refused to elaborate. Perhaps he is just full of 
 processed cow fodder.

 Has anyone here heard anything about this?

 John

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Re: [RBW] New Riv Fixed/Single Speed in 2017???

2016-07-26 Thread Deacon Patrick
Yeah, but the climbing is far more delicious and silent SS than on my 
Hunqapillar that I only take the Hunqapillar when I know I'm pealing off on 
the singletrack. An early spring or late autumn ride means less traffic and 
the road is beautifully silent (but greater need of better clothing).

With abandon,
Patrick

On Tuesday, July 26, 2016 at 6:05:29 PM UTC-6, Eric Norris wrote:
>
> Sounds like a great ride for gears … or at least freewheel!
>
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> On Jul 26, 2016, at 5:04 PM, Deacon Patrick  > wrote:
>
> Och! Yes, SS v. Fixed would make a BIG difference on the descent, either 
> direction. I don't recommend fixed for Pikes Peak. The descent is a BLAST, 
> until you catch up to a line of white-knuckled lowlanders in their cars. 
> Though it is surprising how may can be passed just with gravity 
> acceleration. Sardonic grin.
>
> With abandon,
> Patrick
>
> On Tuesday, July 26, 2016 at 5:52:24 PM UTC-6, Eric Norris wrote:
>>
>> Going up from Gunnison was hard, descending down the other side to Salida 
>> was even worse. Probably the toughest descent I’ve ever done—miles and 
>> miles of hanging onto the brakes to keep from going too fast (and keeping 
>> my cadence at a safe level). 
>>
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Re: [RBW] New Riv Fixed/Single Speed in 2017???

2016-07-26 Thread Eric Norris
Sounds like a great ride for gears … or at least freewheel!

--Eric Norris
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> On Jul 26, 2016, at 5:04 PM, Deacon Patrick  wrote:
> 
> Och! Yes, SS v. Fixed would make a BIG difference on the descent, either 
> direction. I don't recommend fixed for Pikes Peak. The descent is a BLAST, 
> until you catch up to a line of white-knuckled lowlanders in their cars. 
> Though it is surprising how may can be passed just with gravity acceleration. 
> Sardonic grin.
> 
> With abandon,
> Patrick
> 
> On Tuesday, July 26, 2016 at 5:52:24 PM UTC-6, Eric Norris wrote:
> Going up from Gunnison was hard, descending down the other side to Salida was 
> even worse. Probably the toughest descent I’ve ever done—miles and miles of 
> hanging onto the brakes to keep from going too fast (and keeping my cadence 
> at a safe level). 
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Re: [RBW] New Riv Fixed/Single Speed in 2017???

2016-07-26 Thread Deacon Patrick
Och! Yes, SS v. Fixed would make a BIG difference on the descent, either 
direction. I don't recommend fixed for Pikes Peak. The descent is a BLAST, 
until you catch up to a line of white-knuckled lowlanders in their cars. 
Though it is surprising how may can be passed just with gravity 
acceleration. Sardonic grin.

With abandon,
Patrick

On Tuesday, July 26, 2016 at 5:52:24 PM UTC-6, Eric Norris wrote:
>
> Going up from Gunnison was hard, descending down the other side to Salida 
> was even worse. Probably the toughest descent I’ve ever done—miles and 
> miles of hanging onto the brakes to keep from going too fast (and keeping 
> my cadence at a safe level). 
>

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Re: [RBW] New Riv Fixed/Single Speed in 2017???

2016-07-26 Thread Eric Norris
Going up from Gunnison was hard, descending down the other side to Salida was 
even worse. Probably the toughest descent I’ve ever done—miles and miles of 
hanging onto the brakes to keep from going too fast (and keeping my cadence at 
a safe level). 

Pikes Peak looks fun. I hope to try that sometime.

--Eric Norris
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> On Jul 26, 2016, at 4:36 PM, Deacon Patrick  wrote:
> 
> Here's my furtherest ride up Pikes Peak (I did two rides, never made the 
> top). Average grade of 8-9%, regular boutes of 10%, and one wee hair pin turn 
> with stunning headwinds above tree line at 15%. I used my bail out rear of 
> 22t. Grin. After doing this, everything is sane. 
>  
> 
> 
> Monarch Pass is brutal for it length of climb and the volume of high speed 
> traffic including high % of RV's, tourists, and semi trucks. Well done, Eric! 
> My brain has blown up just trying to ride the Monarch Crest trail AWAY from 
> the top of Monarch crest, because of the traffic noise. My poor family drove 
> us 2 hours just for me to get messed up with all my bikepacking gear, turn 
> around and go home. Talk about disappointed daughters who didn't get to go 
> bikepacking. That is a busy corridor!
> 
> With abandon,
> Patrick 
> 
> On Tuesday, July 26, 2016 at 5:07:43 PM UTC-6, Eric Norris wrote:
> Quickbeam on Mt Diablo? Barely crazy. Quickbeam over Monarch Pass? *That’s* 
> crazy!
> 
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monarch_Pass 
> 
> 
> --Eric Norris
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>> On Jul 26, 2016, at 3:36 PM, Joe Bernard  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> I think not. The two sorta-singlespeeds they tried to sell didn't, and only 
>> a crazy-person would ride one in the area RBW is located. (Yes, I've seen a 
>> Quickbeam on Mt. Diablo. That guy was crazy).
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Re: [RBW] New Riv Fixed/Single Speed in 2017???

2016-07-26 Thread Deacon Patrick
Here's my furtherest ride up Pikes Peak (I did two rides, never made the 
top). Average grade of 8-9%, regular boutes of 10%, and one wee hair pin 
turn with stunning headwinds above tree line at 15%. I used my bail out 
rear of 22t. Grin. After doing this, everything is sane. 



Monarch Pass is brutal for it length of climb and the volume of high speed 
traffic including high % of RV's, tourists, and semi trucks. Well done, 
Eric! My brain has blown up just trying to ride the Monarch Crest trail 
AWAY from the top of Monarch crest, because of the traffic noise. My poor 
family drove us 2 hours just for me to get messed up with all my 
bikepacking gear, turn around and go home. Talk about disappointed 
daughters who didn't get to go bikepacking. That is a busy corridor!

With abandon,
Patrick 

On Tuesday, July 26, 2016 at 5:07:43 PM UTC-6, Eric Norris wrote:
>
> Quickbeam on Mt Diablo? Barely crazy. Quickbeam over Monarch Pass? 
> *That’s* crazy!
>
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monarch_Pass
>
> --Eric Norris
> campyo...@me.com 
> www.campyonly.com
> campyonlyguy.blogspot.com 
>
> On Jul 26, 2016, at 3:36 PM, Joe Bernard  
> wrote:
>
> I think not. The two sorta-singlespeeds they tried to sell didn't, and 
> only a crazy-person would ride one in the area RBW is located. (Yes, I've 
> seen a Quickbeam on Mt. Diablo. That guy was crazy).
>
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Re: [RBW] New Riv Fixed/Single Speed in 2017???

2016-07-26 Thread Eric Norris
Quickbeam on Mt Diablo? Barely crazy. Quickbeam over Monarch Pass? *That’s* 
crazy!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monarch_Pass

--Eric Norris
campyonly...@me.com
www.campyonly.com
campyonlyguy.blogspot.com

> On Jul 26, 2016, at 3:36 PM, Joe Bernard  wrote:
> 
> I think not. The two sorta-singlespeeds they tried to sell didn't, and only a 
> crazy-person would ride one in the area RBW is located. (Yes, I've seen a 
> Quickbeam on Mt. Diablo. That guy was crazy).
> 
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[RBW] New Riv Fixed/Single Speed in 2017???

2016-07-26 Thread Joe Bernard
I think not. The two sorta-singlespeeds they tried to sell didn't, and only a 
crazy-person would ride one in the area RBW is located. (Yes, I've seen a 
Quickbeam on Mt. Diablo. That guy was crazy).

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Re: [RBW] New Riv Fixed/Single Speed in 2017???

2016-07-26 Thread Jeff Lesperance
Satan himself has clearly designed the track end- derailleur-hangered rear
on my Surly Troll. Mixed with fenders, racks and  disc brakes it is
highly functional and curse inducing. Be careful of the deal with the devil

On Tuesday, July 26, 2016, Patrick Moore  wrote:

> Oh, please don't use track ends! Use a superexcessivelylong "horizontal"
> dropout. So much easier!
>
> I had C Mathews retrofit my '03 Riv custom with a longer-than-Campy-1010
> dropout; and the 1010 replaced the original Riv vertical. Anyway, room for
> prolly 8 teeth difference.
>
> On Tue, Jul 26, 2016 at 2:58 PM, iamkeith  > wrote:
>
>> Having seen a few comments from Grant lately, to the effect of "if you
>> want a single-speed, don't shift" I'd be surprised.
>>
>> On the other hand, perhaps the "groovy thing that none of our other bikes
>> has ever had," for the contemplated Roadini, is a track end dropout with a
>> derailleur hanger attached?
>>
>> Alas, I could speculate for ever, but speculation is all it would ever be.
>>
>>
>> On Tuesday, July 26, 2016 at 2:18:24 PM UTC-6, John wrote:
>>>
>>> A friend told me they heard Riv has a fixed and/or single speed in the
>>> works for 2017.
>>>
>>> For some reason, he refused to elaborate. Perhaps he is just full of
>>> processed cow fodder.
>>>
>>> Has anyone here heard anything about this?
>>>
>>> John
>>>
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[RBW] New Riv Fixed/Single Speed in 2017???

2016-07-26 Thread Lungimsam
"Simply Quick"?
"One Beam"?

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[RBW] New Riv Fixed/Single Speed in 2017???

2016-07-26 Thread John
A friend told me they heard Riv has a fixed and/or single speed in the 
works for 2017.

For some reason, he refused to elaborate. Perhaps he is just full of 
processed cow fodder.

Has anyone here heard anything about this?

John

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