Re: [RBW] Re: Atlantis tires rec request

[Kellie Stapleton]

Looks great Tim.

> On May 24, 2018, at 6:57 PM, Tim Butterfield  wrote:
> 
> Thanks all for the recommendations and comments.  Here is the result:
> 
> They are the RTP at 32/35 psi.  The ride is great.  And, the new Banana Sax 
> also, at least until I put on the rack.
> 
> Tim
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[RBW] Re: Atlantis tires rec request

['Eamon Nordquist' via RBW Owners Bunch]

That is a great looking Atlantis. If that were my size I'd want one just like 
it!

Eamon
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Re: [RBW] Re: Atlantis tires rec request

[Ed Fausto]

Thats great!
I also have an older 51cm Atlantis.
Will check that cage to strap my fuel bottle.
Thanks Kellie!

On Tue, May 15, 2018 at 9:38 AM, Kellie Stapleton <
kellie.staple...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi Ed:
> Atlantis, 51cm-v.2016
> Andrew Ti Manything cage (straps come with it)
> 64 oz. KleanKanteen
>
> On May 14, 2018, at 6:33 PM, Ed Fausto  wrote:
>
> Hi Kellie,
> What size is your 26" Atlantis?
> Slightly off topic, what bottle holder you used with the orange straps and
> curious too with the stainless bottle brand/model?
> Thanks,
>
>
> Ed Fausto
>
> On Mon, May 7, 2018 at 4:10 AM, Kellie  wrote:
>
>> Here's Rat Trap Pass on an Atlantis with fenders; 26" wheels.
>>
>>
>> 
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> 
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wednesday, May 2, 2018 at 9:56:30 PM UTC-7, Tim Butterfield wrote:
>>
>>> I have been spoiled by the Barlow Pass EL on my 700c Homer and want to
>>> have the same plush ride on my 26" Atlantis.  I doubt the Rat Trap Pass
>>> would fit at 2.3", but could probably fit the 1.8" Naches Pass and
>>> definitely the 1.5" McClure Pass.
>>>
>>> Currently, I'm leaning towards the Naches Pass EL in black.  It doesn't
>>> currently have fenders and current usage doesn't require them.  I'd
>>> probably need to drop to the McClure to add fenders.  My current usage of
>>> the Atlantis is as a grab and go around town bike, which doesn't require
>>> rainy rides.
>>>
>>> What would your recommendations be for this tire?
>>>
>>> Thanks.
>>>
>>> Tim
>>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Atlantis tires rec request

[Kellie Stapleton]

Hi Ed:
Atlantis, 51cm-v.2016
Andrew Ti Manything cage (straps come with it)
64 oz. KleanKanteen

> On May 14, 2018, at 6:33 PM, Ed Fausto  wrote:
> 
> Hi Kellie,
> What size is your 26" Atlantis?
> Slightly off topic, what bottle holder you used with the orange straps and 
> curious too with the stainless bottle brand/model?
> Thanks,

> Ed Fausto
> 
> On Mon, May 7, 2018 at 4:10 AM, Kellie  > wrote:
> Here's Rat Trap Pass on an Atlantis with fenders; 26" wheels.
>  
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>  
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Wednesday, May 2, 2018 at 9:56:30 PM UTC-7, Tim Butterfield wrote:
> I have been spoiled by the Barlow Pass EL on my 700c Homer and want to have 
> the same plush ride on my 26" Atlantis.  I doubt the Rat Trap Pass would fit 
> at 2.3", but could probably fit the 1.8" Naches Pass and definitely the 1.5" 
> McClure Pass.
> 
> Currently, I'm leaning towards the Naches Pass EL in black.  It doesn't 
> currently have fenders and current usage doesn't require them.  I'd probably 
> need to drop to the McClure to add fenders.  My current usage of the Atlantis 
> is as a grab and go around town bike, which doesn't require rainy rides.
> 
> What would your recommendations be for this tire?
> 
> Thanks.
> 
> Tim
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Re: [RBW] Re: Atlantis tires rec request

[Ed Fausto]

Hi Kellie,
What size is your 26" Atlantis?
Slightly off topic, what bottle holder you used with the orange straps and
curious too with the stainless bottle brand/model?
Thanks,
Ed Fausto

On Mon, May 7, 2018 at 4:10 AM, Kellie  wrote:

> Here's Rat Trap Pass on an Atlantis with fenders; 26" wheels.
>
>
> 
>
>
>
>
>
>
> 
>
>
>
>
>
> On Wednesday, May 2, 2018 at 9:56:30 PM UTC-7, Tim Butterfield wrote:
>
>> I have been spoiled by the Barlow Pass EL on my 700c Homer and want to
>> have the same plush ride on my 26" Atlantis.  I doubt the Rat Trap Pass
>> would fit at 2.3", but could probably fit the 1.8" Naches Pass and
>> definitely the 1.5" McClure Pass.
>>
>> Currently, I'm leaning towards the Naches Pass EL in black.  It doesn't
>> currently have fenders and current usage doesn't require them.  I'd
>> probably need to drop to the McClure to add fenders.  My current usage of
>> the Atlantis is as a grab and go around town bike, which doesn't require
>> rainy rides.
>>
>> What would your recommendations be for this tire?
>>
>> Thanks.
>>
>> Tim
>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Atlantis tires rec request

[Tim Butterfield]

Thanks, Rod and Kellie.  Though a search shows tubeless on the Atlas rims
may be possible as Phil K did, I'm not sure I'm ready for that experiment
yet and will stick with tubes for now.  I will lower my pressure some to
see what happens.

Tim

On Mon, May 14, 2018 at 5:13 PM, Kellie  wrote:

> I run tubeless even lower: 28psi front/30 rear
>
>
> On Sunday, May 13, 2018 at 9:17:32 PM UTC-7, Rod Holland wrote:
>>
>> With RTPs, 40+PSI will get you to the Bouncy House. I run mine at
>> 30/35PSI (235lb rider).
>>
>> rod
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Re: [RBW] Re: Atlantis tires rec request

[Kellie]

I run tubeless even lower: 28psi front/30 rear

On Sunday, May 13, 2018 at 9:17:32 PM UTC-7, Rod Holland wrote:
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> With RTPs, 40+PSI will get you to the Bouncy House. I run mine at 30/35PSI 
> (235lb rider). 
>
> rod
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Re: [RBW] Re: Atlantis tires rec request

[Rod Holland]

With RTPs, 40+PSI will get you to the Bouncy House. I run mine at 30/35PSI 
(235lb rider). 

rod

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Re: [RBW] Re: Atlantis tires rec request

[Tim Butterfield]

Thanks, Laing.  I was thinking not just of the initial pair, but of
potentially having to replace a single tire several years down the road.
But, I guess I could always just get another matched pair.  It's just
money.  Not likely to be a real issue, though.

Tim

On Thu, May 10, 2018 at 10:58 AM, lconley  wrote:

> I should note that I have tan 700C x 44 Snoqualmie Pass on my Sam and tan
> 650b x 48 Switchback Hill on my Bombadil - they came as matched sets, no
> problem.
>
> Laing
>
>
> On Thursday, May 10, 2018 at 1:51:23 PM UTC-4, Tim Butterfield wrote:
>
>> The tan looks good when it's matched up, but not being matched would
>> likely annoy me.   I'm not sure I want to go through the hassle of buying
>> several or worrying about later replacement issues trying to get them
>> matched.  I think I'll stick with black.  Thanks, Laing.
>>
>> Tim
>>
>> On Wed, May 9, 2018 at 6:06 AM, lconley  wrote:
>>
>>> I had my opinion on this formed a very long time ago - almost 50 years
>>> at this point. Schwinn Varsity Sports had black tires. The nicer Schwinn
>>> Continentals and Super Sports had tan sidewall "Puff Gumwall" tires. The
>>> nice Vittoria silk sew-ups had tan sidewalls and the cheap Wolber
>>> sew-ups were all black. I have associated black sidewalls with cheap tires
>>> ever since. I almost always use tan sidewalls, which were getting harder to
>>> find 10 years ago, but they have made a comeback. I love Compass tires with
>>> tan sidewalls, but sometimes the color of tan can vary from reddish to
>>> yellowish. I actually ended up buying three to get a better color match for
>>> my Frank Jones, Sr. Anybody want a deal on a single yellowish tan sidewall
>>> 700c x 38 Barlow Pass? Black is easier to match.
>>>
>>> Laing
>>> Cocoa FL
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, May 8, 2018 at 11:36:06 PM UTC-4, Tim Butterfield wrote:
>>>
 I thought I was all set for some black Rat Trap Pass extra lights for
 my Atlantis.  But, after seeing Julian's very nice build, I have another
 factor to consider.  I cannot recall having a light sidewall on an adult
 bike.  I've always had black.  Maybe it's time for a change.  The light
 sidewall tires sure look nice on Julian's Atlantis.  Any other opinions on
 this?

 Thanks.

 Tim



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Re: [RBW] Re: Atlantis tires rec request

[lconley]

I should note that I have tan 700C x 44 Snoqualmie Pass on my Sam and tan 
650b x 48 Switchback Hill on my Bombadil - they came as matched sets, no 
problem.

Laing


On Thursday, May 10, 2018 at 1:51:23 PM UTC-4, Tim Butterfield wrote:

> The tan looks good when it's matched up, but not being matched would 
> likely annoy me.   I'm not sure I want to go through the hassle of buying 
> several or worrying about later replacement issues trying to get them 
> matched.  I think I'll stick with black.  Thanks, Laing.
>
> Tim
>
> On Wed, May 9, 2018 at 6:06 AM, lconley  
> wrote:
>
>> I had my opinion on this formed a very long time ago - almost 50 years at 
>> this point. Schwinn Varsity Sports had black tires. The nicer Schwinn 
>> Continentals and Super Sports had tan sidewall "Puff Gumwall" tires. The 
>> nice Vittoria silk sew-ups had tan sidewalls and the cheap Wolber 
>> sew-ups were all black. I have associated black sidewalls with cheap tires 
>> ever since. I almost always use tan sidewalls, which were getting harder to 
>> find 10 years ago, but they have made a comeback. I love Compass tires with 
>> tan sidewalls, but sometimes the color of tan can vary from reddish to 
>> yellowish. I actually ended up buying three to get a better color match for 
>> my Frank Jones, Sr. Anybody want a deal on a single yellowish tan sidewall 
>> 700c x 38 Barlow Pass? Black is easier to match.
>>
>> Laing
>> Cocoa FL
>>
>> On Tuesday, May 8, 2018 at 11:36:06 PM UTC-4, Tim Butterfield wrote:
>>
>>> I thought I was all set for some black Rat Trap Pass extra lights for my 
>>> Atlantis.  But, after seeing Julian's very nice build, I have another 
>>> factor to consider.  I cannot recall having a light sidewall on an adult 
>>> bike.  I've always had black.  Maybe it's time for a change.  The light 
>>> sidewall tires sure look nice on Julian's Atlantis.  Any other opinions on 
>>> this?
>>>
>>> Thanks.
>>>
>>> Tim
>>>
>>>
>>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Atlantis tires rec request

[Tim Butterfield]

The tan looks good when it's matched up, but not being matched would likely
annoy me.   I'm not sure I want to go through the hassle of buying several
or worrying about later replacement issues trying to get them matched.  I
think I'll stick with black.  Thanks, Laing.

Tim

On Wed, May 9, 2018 at 6:06 AM, lconley  wrote:

> I had my opinion on this formed a very long time ago - almost 50 years at
> this point. Schwinn Varsity Sports had black tires. The nicer Schwinn
> Continentals and Super Sports had tan sidewall "Puff Gumwall" tires. The
> nice Vittoria silk sew-ups had tan sidewalls and the cheap Wolber
> sew-ups were all black. I have associated black sidewalls with cheap tires
> ever since. I almost always use tan sidewalls, which were getting harder to
> find 10 years ago, but they have made a comeback. I love Compass tires with
> tan sidewalls, but sometimes the color of tan can vary from reddish to
> yellowish. I actually ended up buying three to get a better color match for
> my Frank Jones, Sr. Anybody want a deal on a single yellowish tan sidewall
> 700c x 38 Barlow Pass? Black is easier to match.
>
> Laing
> Cocoa FL
>
> On Tuesday, May 8, 2018 at 11:36:06 PM UTC-4, Tim Butterfield wrote:
>
>> I thought I was all set for some black Rat Trap Pass extra lights for my
>> Atlantis.  But, after seeing Julian's very nice build, I have another
>> factor to consider.  I cannot recall having a light sidewall on an adult
>> bike.  I've always had black.  Maybe it's time for a change.  The light
>> sidewall tires sure look nice on Julian's Atlantis.  Any other opinions on
>> this?
>>
>> Thanks.
>>
>> Tim
>>
>>
>>
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[RBW] Re: Atlantis tires rec request

[lconley]

I had my opinion on this formed a very long time ago - almost 50 years at 
this point. Schwinn Varsity Sports had black tires. The nicer Schwinn 
Continentals and Super Sports had tan sidewall "Puff Gumwall" tires. The 
nice Vittoria silk sew-ups had tan sidewalls and the cheap Wolber 
sew-ups were all black. I have associated black sidewalls with cheap tires 
ever since. I almost always use tan sidewalls, which were getting harder to 
find 10 years ago, but they have made a comeback. I love Compass tires with 
tan sidewalls, but sometimes the color of tan can vary from reddish to 
yellowish. I actually ended up buying three to get a better color match for 
my Frank Jones, Sr. Anybody want a deal on a single yellowish tan sidewall 
700c x 38 Barlow Pass? Black is easier to match.

Laing
Cocoa FL

On Tuesday, May 8, 2018 at 11:36:06 PM UTC-4, Tim Butterfield wrote:

> I thought I was all set for some black Rat Trap Pass extra lights for my 
> Atlantis.  But, after seeing Julian's very nice build, I have another 
> factor to consider.  I cannot recall having a light sidewall on an adult 
> bike.  I've always had black.  Maybe it's time for a change.  The light 
> sidewall tires sure look nice on Julian's Atlantis.  Any other opinions on 
> this?
>
> Thanks.
>
> Tim
>
>
>
>

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[RBW] Re: Atlantis tires rec request

[Tim Butterfield]

I thought I was all set for some black Rat Trap Pass extra lights for my
Atlantis.  But, after seeing Julian's very nice build, I have another
factor to consider.  I cannot recall having a light sidewall on an adult
bike.  I've always had black.  Maybe it's time for a change.  The light
sidewall tires sure look nice on Julian's Atlantis.  Any other opinions on
this?

Thanks.

Tim

On Wed, May 2, 2018 at 9:56 PM, Tim Butterfield 
wrote:

> I have been spoiled by the Barlow Pass EL on my 700c Homer and want to
> have the same plush ride on my 26" Atlantis.  I doubt the Rat Trap Pass
> would fit at 2.3", but could probably fit the 1.8" Naches Pass and
> definitely the 1.5" McClure Pass.
>
> Currently, I'm leaning towards the Naches Pass EL in black.  It doesn't
> currently have fenders and current usage doesn't require them.  I'd
> probably need to drop to the McClure to add fenders.  My current usage of
> the Atlantis is as a grab and go around town bike, which doesn't require
> rainy rides.
>
> What would your recommendations be for this tire?
>
> Thanks.
>
> Tim
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: Atlantis tires rec request

[Kellie Stapleton]

For the street I run RTP 28psi front and 30 rear

> On May 7, 2018, at 12:20 PM, Tim Butterfield  wrote:
> 
> Thanks all for confirming RTP width is non issue for these rims.  I don’t 
> normally run a really low pressure, usually 40+, but now have a first item to 
> check if handling gets squirrelly.
> 
> Tim
> 
>> On Mon, May 7, 2018 at 5:54 AM Tim Gavin  
>> wrote:
>> Tim- 
>> 
>> St. Sheldon's dogma is pretty conservative in the regard of "proper tire 
>> width for a given rim width".  
>> http://www.sheldonbrown.com/tire-sizing.html
>> (Width Considerations chart is the red/green one most of the way down the 
>> page)
>> 
>> However, many folks have ridden many millions of miles on 2" (54 mm) tires 
>> on 17 mm internal rims -- because that was pretty much all there were at the 
>> dawn of MTB/ATB/Trekking bikes.
>> 
>> The risk with a too-wide tire is the same as that of an under-inflated tire: 
>> risk of the tire folding over when turning aggressively.  
>> Keep your PSI above ~25 and you shouldn't have that problem with RTPs on an 
>> Atlas rim.
>> 
>>> On Sun, May 6, 2018 at 11:58 PM, Tim Butterfield  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> I just looked it up.  I think this is the right ones.
>>> http://www.velocityusa.com/product/rims/atlas-559
>>> 
>>> If so, inside width is 19.8mm with max optimal tire width of 45mm, quite a 
>>> bit narrower than the RTP.  Hmmm.  Will the extra width of the RTP be an 
>>> issue with these rims?
>>> 
>>> Thanks.
>>> 
>>> Tim
>>> 
 On Sun, May 6, 2018 at 8:55 PM Tim Butterfield  
 wrote:
 I know the rims are Atlas, but don’t know the width or have a caliper to 
 measure.   With the multiple confirmations, I will be getting the RTP EL 
 tires instead of the other two I had mentioned.
 
 Thanks.
 
 Tim
 
> On Sun, May 6, 2018 at 2:19 PM Rod Holland  wrote:
> Tim,
> 
> I've been using RTP Extralights on my Surly Trucker DeLuxe (a 26"-wheeled 
> LHT, for all intents and purposes). I find they measure out at 53mm 
> (2.08") on Sun Rhyno Lite rims. What is the inner size of the rims you'll 
> be wanting to mount your tires on? The Rhyno Lites have an interior 
> measure of 22mm. The RTPs fit under Planet Bike Cascadia ATB fenders. You 
> really might want to give them at try, if they're what you're really 
> looking for. Of the two other tires you mentioned, I'd got with the 
> Naches Pass EL over the McClure. The McClure is the last of the 
> "Compassela" tires, good as far as they go, but just not as supple as any 
> of the EL variants. 
> 
> rod 
> 
> 
>> On Thursday, May 3, 2018 at 12:56:30 AM UTC-4, Tim Butterfield wrote:
>> I have been spoiled by the Barlow Pass EL on my 700c Homer and want to 
>> have the same plush ride on my 26" Atlantis.  I doubt the Rat Trap Pass 
>> would fit at 2.3", but could probably fit the 1.8" Naches Pass and 
>> definitely the 1.5" McClure Pass.
>> 
>> Currently, I'm leaning towards the Naches Pass EL in black.  It doesn't 
>> currently have fenders and current usage doesn't require them.  I'd 
>> probably need to drop to the McClure to add fenders.  My current usage 
>> of the Atlantis is as a grab and go around town bike, which doesn't 
>> require rainy rides.
>> 
>> What would your recommendations be for this tire?
>> 
>> Thanks.
>> 
>> Tim
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Re: [RBW] Re: Atlantis tires rec request

[Tim Butterfield]

Thanks all for confirming RTP width is non issue for these rims.  I don’t
normally run a really low pressure, usually 40+, but now have a first item
to check if handling gets squirrelly.

Tim

On Mon, May 7, 2018 at 5:54 AM Tim Gavin 
wrote:

> Tim-
>
> St. Sheldon's dogma is pretty conservative in the regard of "proper tire
> width for a given rim width".
> http://www.sheldonbrown.com/tire-sizing.html
> (Width Considerations chart is the red/green one most of the way down the
> page)
>
> However, many folks have ridden many millions of miles on 2" (54 mm) tires
> on 17 mm internal rims -- because that was pretty much all there were at
> the dawn of MTB/ATB/Trekking bikes.
>
> The risk with a too-wide tire is the same as that of an under-inflated
> tire: risk of the tire folding over when turning aggressively.
> Keep your PSI above ~25 and you shouldn't have that problem with RTPs on
> an Atlas rim.
>
> On Sun, May 6, 2018 at 11:58 PM, Tim Butterfield  > wrote:
>
>>
>> I just looked it up.  I think this is the right ones.
>> http://www.velocityusa.com/product/rims/atlas-559
>>
>> If so, inside width is 19.8mm with max optimal tire width of 45mm, quite
>> a bit narrower than the RTP.  Hmmm.  Will the extra width of the RTP be an
>> issue with these rims?
>>
>> Thanks.
>>
>> Tim
>>
>> On Sun, May 6, 2018 at 8:55 PM Tim Butterfield 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I know the rims are Atlas, but don’t know the width or have a caliper to
>>> measure.   With the multiple confirmations, I will be getting the RTP EL
>>> tires instead of the other two I had mentioned.
>>>
>>> Thanks.
>>>
>>> Tim
>>>
>>> On Sun, May 6, 2018 at 2:19 PM Rod Holland 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Tim,

 I've been using RTP Extralights on my Surly Trucker DeLuxe (a
 26"-wheeled LHT, for all intents and purposes). I find they measure out at
 53mm (2.08") on Sun Rhyno Lite rims. What is the inner size of the rims
 you'll be wanting to mount your tires on? The Rhyno Lites have an interior
 measure of 22mm. The RTPs fit under Planet Bike Cascadia ATB fenders. You
 really might want to give them at try, if they're what you're really
 looking for. Of the two other tires you mentioned, I'd got with the Naches
 Pass EL over the McClure. The McClure is the last of the "Compassela"
 tires, good as far as they go, but just not as supple as any of the EL
 variants.

 rod


 On Thursday, May 3, 2018 at 12:56:30 AM UTC-4, Tim Butterfield wrote:
>
> I have been spoiled by the Barlow Pass EL on my 700c Homer and want to
> have the same plush ride on my 26" Atlantis.  I doubt the Rat Trap Pass
> would fit at 2.3", but could probably fit the 1.8" Naches Pass and
> definitely the 1.5" McClure Pass.
>
> Currently, I'm leaning towards the Naches Pass EL in black.  It
> doesn't currently have fenders and current usage doesn't require them.  
> I'd
> probably need to drop to the McClure to add fenders.  My current usage of
> the Atlantis is as a grab and go around town bike, which doesn't require
> rainy rides.
>
> What would your recommendations be for this tire?
>
> Thanks.
>
> Tim
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Re: [RBW] Re: Atlantis tires rec request

[Patrick Moore]

Thousands of miles on 50+ mm tires on 13 mm internal rims, no problems.

On Mon, May 7, 2018 at 7:55 AM, Tim Gavin 
wrote:

> And I should have added my own experience: 60 mm Super Motos and 54 mm
> Thunder Burts on 17 mm internal rims, no problems in ~2000 miles of
> gravel.
>
>
> On Mon, May 7, 2018 at 8:51 AM, Paul Clifton 
> wrote:
>
>> Tim,
>>
>> I've run 48mm and 58 mm (2.3") tires on my Atlas rims without any
>> problems.
>>
>> Paul
>>
>> On Monday, May 7, 2018 at 12:58:39 AM UTC-4, Tim Butterfield wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> I just looked it up.  I think this is the right ones.
>>> http://www.velocityusa.com/product/rims/atlas-559
>>>
>>> If so, inside width is 19.8mm with max optimal tire width of 45mm, quite
>>> a bit narrower than the RTP.  Hmmm.  Will the extra width of the RTP be an
>>> issue with these rims?
>>>
>>> Thanks.
>>>
>>> Tim
>>>
>>> On Sun, May 6, 2018 at 8:55 PM Tim Butterfield 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 I know the rims are Atlas, but don’t know the width or have a caliper
 to measure.   With the multiple confirmations, I will be getting the RTP EL
 tires instead of the other two I had mentioned.

 Thanks.

 Tim

 On Sun, May 6, 2018 at 2:19 PM Rod Holland  wrote:

> Tim,
>
> I've been using RTP Extralights on my Surly Trucker DeLuxe (a
> 26"-wheeled LHT, for all intents and purposes). I find they measure out at
> 53mm (2.08") on Sun Rhyno Lite rims. What is the inner size of the rims
> you'll be wanting to mount your tires on? The Rhyno Lites have an interior
> measure of 22mm. The RTPs fit under Planet Bike Cascadia ATB fenders. You
> really might want to give them at try, if they're what you're really
> looking for. Of the two other tires you mentioned, I'd got with the Naches
> Pass EL over the McClure. The McClure is the last of the "Compassela"
> tires, good as far as they go, but just not as supple as any of the EL
> variants.
>
> rod
>
>
> On Thursday, May 3, 2018 at 12:56:30 AM UTC-4, Tim Butterfield wrote:
>>
>> I have been spoiled by the Barlow Pass EL on my 700c Homer and want
>> to have the same plush ride on my 26" Atlantis.  I doubt the Rat Trap 
>> Pass
>> would fit at 2.3", but could probably fit the 1.8" Naches Pass and
>> definitely the 1.5" McClure Pass.
>>
>> Currently, I'm leaning towards the Naches Pass EL in black.  It
>> doesn't currently have fenders and current usage doesn't require them.  
>> I'd
>> probably need to drop to the McClure to add fenders.  My current usage of
>> the Atlantis is as a grab and go around town bike, which doesn't require
>> rainy rides.
>>
>> What would your recommendations be for this tire?
>>
>> Thanks.
>>
>> Tim
>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Atlantis tires rec request

[Jan O.]

Thank you.

On Sunday, May 6, 2018 at 8:35:27 PM UTC-7, Kellie wrote:
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> Jan O-yes
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Re: [RBW] Re: Atlantis tires rec request

[Paul Clifton]

Hey Darin, just curious, how low is low pressure in this case?

Paul

On Monday, May 7, 2018 at 10:02:35 AM UTC-4, DarinM wrote:
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> They will not be an issue but will be a little less than ideal. I rode 
> RTPs on 17mm inner rims and they were great but pretty floppy at low 
> pressure. 
>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Atlantis tires rec request

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They will not be an issue but will be a little less than ideal. I rode RTPs on 
17mm inner rims and they were great but pretty floppy at low pressure.

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Re: [RBW] Re: Atlantis tires rec request

[Tim Gavin]

And I should have added my own experience: 60 mm Super Motos and 54 mm
Thunder Burts on 17 mm internal rims, no problems in ~2000 miles of
gravel.


On Mon, May 7, 2018 at 8:51 AM, Paul Clifton  wrote:

> Tim,
>
> I've run 48mm and 58 mm (2.3") tires on my Atlas rims without any problems.
>
> Paul
>
> On Monday, May 7, 2018 at 12:58:39 AM UTC-4, Tim Butterfield wrote:
>>
>>
>> I just looked it up.  I think this is the right ones.
>> http://www.velocityusa.com/product/rims/atlas-559
>>
>> If so, inside width is 19.8mm with max optimal tire width of 45mm, quite
>> a bit narrower than the RTP.  Hmmm.  Will the extra width of the RTP be an
>> issue with these rims?
>>
>> Thanks.
>>
>> Tim
>>
>> On Sun, May 6, 2018 at 8:55 PM Tim Butterfield 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I know the rims are Atlas, but don’t know the width or have a caliper to
>>> measure.   With the multiple confirmations, I will be getting the RTP EL
>>> tires instead of the other two I had mentioned.
>>>
>>> Thanks.
>>>
>>> Tim
>>>
>>> On Sun, May 6, 2018 at 2:19 PM Rod Holland  wrote:
>>>
 Tim,

 I've been using RTP Extralights on my Surly Trucker DeLuxe (a
 26"-wheeled LHT, for all intents and purposes). I find they measure out at
 53mm (2.08") on Sun Rhyno Lite rims. What is the inner size of the rims
 you'll be wanting to mount your tires on? The Rhyno Lites have an interior
 measure of 22mm. The RTPs fit under Planet Bike Cascadia ATB fenders. You
 really might want to give them at try, if they're what you're really
 looking for. Of the two other tires you mentioned, I'd got with the Naches
 Pass EL over the McClure. The McClure is the last of the "Compassela"
 tires, good as far as they go, but just not as supple as any of the EL
 variants.

 rod


 On Thursday, May 3, 2018 at 12:56:30 AM UTC-4, Tim Butterfield wrote:
>
> I have been spoiled by the Barlow Pass EL on my 700c Homer and want to
> have the same plush ride on my 26" Atlantis.  I doubt the Rat Trap Pass
> would fit at 2.3", but could probably fit the 1.8" Naches Pass and
> definitely the 1.5" McClure Pass.
>
> Currently, I'm leaning towards the Naches Pass EL in black.  It
> doesn't currently have fenders and current usage doesn't require them.  
> I'd
> probably need to drop to the McClure to add fenders.  My current usage of
> the Atlantis is as a grab and go around town bike, which doesn't require
> rainy rides.
>
> What would your recommendations be for this tire?
>
> Thanks.
>
> Tim
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Re: [RBW] Re: Atlantis tires rec request

[Paul Clifton]

Tim,

I've run 48mm and 58 mm (2.3") tires on my Atlas rims without any problems.

Paul

On Monday, May 7, 2018 at 12:58:39 AM UTC-4, Tim Butterfield wrote:
>
>
> I just looked it up.  I think this is the right ones.
> http://www.velocityusa.com/product/rims/atlas-559
>
> If so, inside width is 19.8mm with max optimal tire width of 45mm, quite a 
> bit narrower than the RTP.  Hmmm.  Will the extra width of the RTP be an 
> issue with these rims?
>
> Thanks.
>
> Tim
>
> On Sun, May 6, 2018 at 8:55 PM Tim Butterfield  > wrote:
>
>> I know the rims are Atlas, but don’t know the width or have a caliper to 
>> measure.   With the multiple confirmations, I will be getting the RTP EL 
>> tires instead of the other two I had mentioned.
>>
>> Thanks.
>>
>> Tim
>>
>> On Sun, May 6, 2018 at 2:19 PM Rod Holland > > wrote:
>>
>>> Tim,
>>>
>>> I've been using RTP Extralights on my Surly Trucker DeLuxe (a 
>>> 26"-wheeled LHT, for all intents and purposes). I find they measure out at 
>>> 53mm (2.08") on Sun Rhyno Lite rims. What is the inner size of the rims 
>>> you'll be wanting to mount your tires on? The Rhyno Lites have an interior 
>>> measure of 22mm. The RTPs fit under Planet Bike Cascadia ATB fenders. You 
>>> really might want to give them at try, if they're what you're really 
>>> looking for. Of the two other tires you mentioned, I'd got with the Naches 
>>> Pass EL over the McClure. The McClure is the last of the "Compassela" 
>>> tires, good as far as they go, but just not as supple as any of the EL 
>>> variants. 
>>>
>>> rod 
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thursday, May 3, 2018 at 12:56:30 AM UTC-4, Tim Butterfield wrote:

 I have been spoiled by the Barlow Pass EL on my 700c Homer and want to 
 have the same plush ride on my 26" Atlantis.  I doubt the Rat Trap Pass 
 would fit at 2.3", but could probably fit the 1.8" Naches Pass and 
 definitely the 1.5" McClure Pass.

 Currently, I'm leaning towards the Naches Pass EL in black.  It doesn't 
 currently have fenders and current usage doesn't require them.  I'd 
 probably need to drop to the McClure to add fenders.  My current usage of 
 the Atlantis is as a grab and go around town bike, which doesn't require 
 rainy rides.

 What would your recommendations be for this tire?

 Thanks.

 Tim

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Re: [RBW] Re: Atlantis tires rec request

[Tim Gavin]

Tim-

St. Sheldon's dogma is pretty conservative in the regard of "proper tire
width for a given rim width".
http://www.sheldonbrown.com/tire-sizing.html
(Width Considerations chart is the red/green one most of the way down the
page)

However, many folks have ridden many millions of miles on 2" (54 mm) tires
on 17 mm internal rims -- because that was pretty much all there were at
the dawn of MTB/ATB/Trekking bikes.

The risk with a too-wide tire is the same as that of an under-inflated
tire: risk of the tire folding over when turning aggressively.
Keep your PSI above ~25 and you shouldn't have that problem with RTPs on an
Atlas rim.

On Sun, May 6, 2018 at 11:58 PM, Tim Butterfield 
wrote:

>
> I just looked it up.  I think this is the right ones.
> http://www.velocityusa.com/product/rims/atlas-559
>
> If so, inside width is 19.8mm with max optimal tire width of 45mm, quite a
> bit narrower than the RTP.  Hmmm.  Will the extra width of the RTP be an
> issue with these rims?
>
> Thanks.
>
> Tim
>
> On Sun, May 6, 2018 at 8:55 PM Tim Butterfield 
> wrote:
>
>> I know the rims are Atlas, but don’t know the width or have a caliper to
>> measure.   With the multiple confirmations, I will be getting the RTP EL
>> tires instead of the other two I had mentioned.
>>
>> Thanks.
>>
>> Tim
>>
>> On Sun, May 6, 2018 at 2:19 PM Rod Holland 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Tim,
>>>
>>> I've been using RTP Extralights on my Surly Trucker DeLuxe (a
>>> 26"-wheeled LHT, for all intents and purposes). I find they measure out at
>>> 53mm (2.08") on Sun Rhyno Lite rims. What is the inner size of the rims
>>> you'll be wanting to mount your tires on? The Rhyno Lites have an interior
>>> measure of 22mm. The RTPs fit under Planet Bike Cascadia ATB fenders. You
>>> really might want to give them at try, if they're what you're really
>>> looking for. Of the two other tires you mentioned, I'd got with the Naches
>>> Pass EL over the McClure. The McClure is the last of the "Compassela"
>>> tires, good as far as they go, but just not as supple as any of the EL
>>> variants.
>>>
>>> rod
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thursday, May 3, 2018 at 12:56:30 AM UTC-4, Tim Butterfield wrote:

 I have been spoiled by the Barlow Pass EL on my 700c Homer and want to
 have the same plush ride on my 26" Atlantis.  I doubt the Rat Trap Pass
 would fit at 2.3", but could probably fit the 1.8" Naches Pass and
 definitely the 1.5" McClure Pass.

 Currently, I'm leaning towards the Naches Pass EL in black.  It doesn't
 currently have fenders and current usage doesn't require them.  I'd
 probably need to drop to the McClure to add fenders.  My current usage of
 the Atlantis is as a grab and go around town bike, which doesn't require
 rainy rides.

 What would your recommendations be for this tire?

 Thanks.

 Tim

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Re: [RBW] Re: Atlantis tires rec request

[Tim Butterfield]

I just looked it up.  I think this is the right ones.
http://www.velocityusa.com/product/rims/atlas-559

If so, inside width is 19.8mm with max optimal tire width of 45mm, quite a
bit narrower than the RTP.  Hmmm.  Will the extra width of the RTP be an
issue with these rims?

Thanks.

Tim

On Sun, May 6, 2018 at 8:55 PM Tim Butterfield 
wrote:

> I know the rims are Atlas, but don’t know the width or have a caliper to
> measure.   With the multiple confirmations, I will be getting the RTP EL
> tires instead of the other two I had mentioned.
>
> Thanks.
>
> Tim
>
> On Sun, May 6, 2018 at 2:19 PM Rod Holland  wrote:
>
>> Tim,
>>
>> I've been using RTP Extralights on my Surly Trucker DeLuxe (a 26"-wheeled
>> LHT, for all intents and purposes). I find they measure out at 53mm (2.08")
>> on Sun Rhyno Lite rims. What is the inner size of the rims you'll be
>> wanting to mount your tires on? The Rhyno Lites have an interior measure of
>> 22mm. The RTPs fit under Planet Bike Cascadia ATB fenders. You really might
>> want to give them at try, if they're what you're really looking for. Of the
>> two other tires you mentioned, I'd got with the Naches Pass EL over the
>> McClure. The McClure is the last of the "Compassela" tires, good as far as
>> they go, but just not as supple as any of the EL variants.
>>
>> rod
>>
>>
>> On Thursday, May 3, 2018 at 12:56:30 AM UTC-4, Tim Butterfield wrote:
>>>
>>> I have been spoiled by the Barlow Pass EL on my 700c Homer and want to
>>> have the same plush ride on my 26" Atlantis.  I doubt the Rat Trap Pass
>>> would fit at 2.3", but could probably fit the 1.8" Naches Pass and
>>> definitely the 1.5" McClure Pass.
>>>
>>> Currently, I'm leaning towards the Naches Pass EL in black.  It doesn't
>>> currently have fenders and current usage doesn't require them.  I'd
>>> probably need to drop to the McClure to add fenders.  My current usage of
>>> the Atlantis is as a grab and go around town bike, which doesn't require
>>> rainy rides.
>>>
>>> What would your recommendations be for this tire?
>>>
>>> Thanks.
>>>
>>> Tim
>>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Atlantis tires rec request

[Tim Butterfield]

Thanks for adding to the RTP confirmations.

Tim

On Sun, May 6, 2018 at 2:48 PM Frank Brose  wrote:

> Tim,
> I have Rat Trap Pass and fenders on my Toyo built Atlantis with plenty of
> clearance.
> Frank
> Tomahawk, Wisconsin
>
>
> On Wednesday, May 2, 2018 at 11:56:30 PM UTC-5, Tim Butterfield wrote:
>>
>> I have been spoiled by the Barlow Pass EL on my 700c Homer and want to
>> have the same plush ride on my 26" Atlantis.  I doubt the Rat Trap Pass
>> would fit at 2.3", but could probably fit the 1.8" Naches Pass and
>> definitely the 1.5" McClure Pass.
>>
>> Currently, I'm leaning towards the Naches Pass EL in black.  It doesn't
>> currently have fenders and current usage doesn't require them.  I'd
>> probably need to drop to the McClure to add fenders.  My current usage of
>> the Atlantis is as a grab and go around town bike, which doesn't require
>> rainy rides.
>>
>> What would your recommendations be for this tire?
>>
>> Thanks.
>>
>> Tim
>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Atlantis tires rec request

[Tim Butterfield]

I know the rims are Atlas, but don’t know the width or have a caliper to
measure.   With the multiple confirmations, I will be getting the RTP EL
tires instead of the other two I had mentioned.

Thanks.

Tim

On Sun, May 6, 2018 at 2:19 PM Rod Holland  wrote:

> Tim,
>
> I've been using RTP Extralights on my Surly Trucker DeLuxe (a 26"-wheeled
> LHT, for all intents and purposes). I find they measure out at 53mm (2.08")
> on Sun Rhyno Lite rims. What is the inner size of the rims you'll be
> wanting to mount your tires on? The Rhyno Lites have an interior measure of
> 22mm. The RTPs fit under Planet Bike Cascadia ATB fenders. You really might
> want to give them at try, if they're what you're really looking for. Of the
> two other tires you mentioned, I'd got with the Naches Pass EL over the
> McClure. The McClure is the last of the "Compassela" tires, good as far as
> they go, but just not as supple as any of the EL variants.
>
> rod
>
>
> On Thursday, May 3, 2018 at 12:56:30 AM UTC-4, Tim Butterfield wrote:
>>
>> I have been spoiled by the Barlow Pass EL on my 700c Homer and want to
>> have the same plush ride on my 26" Atlantis.  I doubt the Rat Trap Pass
>> would fit at 2.3", but could probably fit the 1.8" Naches Pass and
>> definitely the 1.5" McClure Pass.
>>
>> Currently, I'm leaning towards the Naches Pass EL in black.  It doesn't
>> currently have fenders and current usage doesn't require them.  I'd
>> probably need to drop to the McClure to add fenders.  My current usage of
>> the Atlantis is as a grab and go around town bike, which doesn't require
>> rainy rides.
>>
>> What would your recommendations be for this tire?
>>
>> Thanks.
>>
>> Tim
>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Atlantis tires rec request

[Tim Butterfield]

That’s sweet.  Thanks.

On Sun, May 6, 2018 at 1:10 PM Kellie  wrote:

> Here's Rat Trap Pass on an Atlantis with fenders; 26" wheels.
>
>
> 
>
>
>
>
>
>
> 
>
>
>
>
>
> On Wednesday, May 2, 2018 at 9:56:30 PM UTC-7, Tim Butterfield wrote:
>
>> I have been spoiled by the Barlow Pass EL on my 700c Homer and want to
>> have the same plush ride on my 26" Atlantis.  I doubt the Rat Trap Pass
>> would fit at 2.3", but could probably fit the 1.8" Naches Pass and
>> definitely the 1.5" McClure Pass.
>>
>> Currently, I'm leaning towards the Naches Pass EL in black.  It doesn't
>> currently have fenders and current usage doesn't require them.  I'd
>> probably need to drop to the McClure to add fenders.  My current usage of
>> the Atlantis is as a grab and go around town bike, which doesn't require
>> rainy rides.
>>
>> What would your recommendations be for this tire?
>>
>> Thanks.
>>
>> Tim
>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Atlantis tires rec request

[Kellie Stapleton]

Jan O-yes

> On May 6, 2018, at 2:48 PM, Frank Brose  wrote:
> 
> Tim,
> I have Rat Trap Pass and fenders on my Toyo built Atlantis with plenty of 
> clearance. 
> Frank
> Tomahawk, Wisconsin
> 
>> On Wednesday, May 2, 2018 at 11:56:30 PM UTC-5, Tim Butterfield wrote:
>> I have been spoiled by the Barlow Pass EL on my 700c Homer and want to have 
>> the same plush ride on my 26" Atlantis.  I doubt the Rat Trap Pass would fit 
>> at 2.3", but could probably fit the 1.8" Naches Pass and definitely the 1.5" 
>> McClure Pass.
>> 
>> Currently, I'm leaning towards the Naches Pass EL in black.  It doesn't 
>> currently have fenders and current usage doesn't require them.  I'd probably 
>> need to drop to the McClure to add fenders.  My current usage of the 
>> Atlantis is as a grab and go around town bike, which doesn't require rainy 
>> rides.
>> 
>> What would your recommendations be for this tire?
>> 
>> Thanks.
>> 
>> Tim
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[RBW] Re: Atlantis tires rec request

[Frank Brose]

Tim,
I have Rat Trap Pass and fenders on my Toyo built Atlantis with plenty of 
clearance. 
Frank
Tomahawk, Wisconsin

On Wednesday, May 2, 2018 at 11:56:30 PM UTC-5, Tim Butterfield wrote:
>
> I have been spoiled by the Barlow Pass EL on my 700c Homer and want to 
> have the same plush ride on my 26" Atlantis.  I doubt the Rat Trap Pass 
> would fit at 2.3", but could probably fit the 1.8" Naches Pass and 
> definitely the 1.5" McClure Pass.
>
> Currently, I'm leaning towards the Naches Pass EL in black.  It doesn't 
> currently have fenders and current usage doesn't require them.  I'd 
> probably need to drop to the McClure to add fenders.  My current usage of 
> the Atlantis is as a grab and go around town bike, which doesn't require 
> rainy rides.
>
> What would your recommendations be for this tire?
>
> Thanks.
>
> Tim
>

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[RBW] Re: Atlantis tires rec request

[Jan O.]

Kellie, are you using the Nitto R14 rack in the back?

Jan


On Sunday, May 6, 2018 at 1:10:45 PM UTC-7, Kellie wrote:
>
> Here's Rat Trap Pass on an Atlantis with fenders; 26" wheels.
>
 

>
> 
>
>
>
>
>
>
> 
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[RBW] Re: Atlantis tires rec request

[Rod Holland]

Tim,

I've been using RTP Extralights on my Surly Trucker DeLuxe (a 26"-wheeled 
LHT, for all intents and purposes). I find they measure out at 53mm (2.08") 
on Sun Rhyno Lite rims. What is the inner size of the rims you'll be 
wanting to mount your tires on? The Rhyno Lites have an interior measure of 
22mm. The RTPs fit under Planet Bike Cascadia ATB fenders. You really might 
want to give them at try, if they're what you're really looking for. Of the 
two other tires you mentioned, I'd got with the Naches Pass EL over the 
McClure. The McClure is the last of the "Compassela" tires, good as far as 
they go, but just not as supple as any of the EL variants. 

rod 

On Thursday, May 3, 2018 at 12:56:30 AM UTC-4, Tim Butterfield wrote:
>
> I have been spoiled by the Barlow Pass EL on my 700c Homer and want to 
> have the same plush ride on my 26" Atlantis.  I doubt the Rat Trap Pass 
> would fit at 2.3", but could probably fit the 1.8" Naches Pass and 
> definitely the 1.5" McClure Pass.
>
> Currently, I'm leaning towards the Naches Pass EL in black.  It doesn't 
> currently have fenders and current usage doesn't require them.  I'd 
> probably need to drop to the McClure to add fenders.  My current usage of 
> the Atlantis is as a grab and go around town bike, which doesn't require 
> rainy rides.
>
> What would your recommendations be for this tire?
>
> Thanks.
>
> Tim
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: Atlantis tires rec request

[Kellie]

. and here with ThunderBurts which I love too, but if I'm more 
offload.




On Sunday, May 6, 2018 at 1:42:21 PM UTC-7, Patrick Moore wrote:
>
> *And* room for fenders. Lovely.
>
> I've thought more than once of resurrecting an old Diamond Back just to 
> have a bike with Rat Trap Pass tires, but reason tells me that I don't ride 
> enough to justify that particular sort of addition. 
>
> On Sun, May 6, 2018 at 2:10 PM, Kellie  > wrote:
>
>> Here's Rat Trap Pass on an Atlantis with fenders; 26" wheels.
>>
>>
>> 
>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Atlantis tires rec request

[Kellie]

I LOVE these tires. I forgot to mention I set them up as tubeless too!

On Sunday, May 6, 2018 at 1:42:21 PM UTC-7, Patrick Moore wrote:
>
> *And* room for fenders. Lovely.
>
> I've thought more than once of resurrecting an old Diamond Back just to 
> have a bike with Rat Trap Pass tires, but reason tells me that I don't ride 
> enough to justify that particular sort of addition. 
>
> On Sun, May 6, 2018 at 2:10 PM, Kellie  > wrote:
>
>> Here's Rat Trap Pass on an Atlantis with fenders; 26" wheels.
>>
>>
>> 
>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Atlantis tires rec request

[Patrick Moore]

*And* room for fenders. Lovely.

I've thought more than once of resurrecting an old Diamond Back just to
have a bike with Rat Trap Pass tires, but reason tells me that I don't ride
enough to justify that particular sort of addition.

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> Here's Rat Trap Pass on an Atlantis with fenders; 26" wheels.
>
>
> 
>
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[RBW] Re: Atlantis tires rec request

[Kellie]

Here's Rat Trap Pass on an Atlantis with fenders; 26" wheels.













On Wednesday, May 2, 2018 at 9:56:30 PM UTC-7, Tim Butterfield wrote:
>
> I have been spoiled by the Barlow Pass EL on my 700c Homer and want to 
> have the same plush ride on my 26" Atlantis.  I doubt the Rat Trap Pass 
> would fit at 2.3", but could probably fit the 1.8" Naches Pass and 
> definitely the 1.5" McClure Pass.
>
> Currently, I'm leaning towards the Naches Pass EL in black.  It doesn't 
> currently have fenders and current usage doesn't require them.  I'd 
> probably need to drop to the McClure to add fenders.  My current usage of 
> the Atlantis is as a grab and go around town bike, which doesn't require 
> rainy rides.
>
> What would your recommendations be for this tire?
>
> Thanks.
>
> Tim
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: Atlantis tires rec request

[Bin Chen]

I have RTP on mine and they fit but cannot fit fenders. just FYI

On Thursday, May 3, 2018 at 10:50:35 AM UTC-7, Mike Williams wrote:
>
> Yes Tim,   RTPs will fit on an Atlantis.Get em on there!!
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On May 3, 2018, at 1:44 PM, Tim Butterfield  > wrote:
>
> Awesome info.  Thanks everyone.
>
> The current set is Schwalbe Marathon 1.75" on Atlas wheels and there seems 
> to be plenty of space.
>
> The RTP sound great, especially if I can still add fenders later if 
> needed.  I'll go ahead and order a set.
>
> Thanks again.
>
> Tim
>
> On Wed, May 2, 2018 at 9:56 PM, Tim Butterfield  > wrote:
>
>> I have been spoiled by the Barlow Pass EL on my 700c Homer and want to 
>> have the same plush ride on my 26" Atlantis.  I doubt the Rat Trap Pass 
>> would fit at 2.3", but could probably fit the 1.8" Naches Pass and 
>> definitely the 1.5" McClure Pass.
>>
>> Currently, I'm leaning towards the Naches Pass EL in black.  It doesn't 
>> currently have fenders and current usage doesn't require them.  I'd 
>> probably need to drop to the McClure to add fenders.  My current usage of 
>> the Atlantis is as a grab and go around town bike, which doesn't require 
>> rainy rides.
>>
>> What would your recommendations be for this tire?
>>
>> Thanks.
>>
>> Tim
>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Atlantis tires rec request

[Mike Williams]

Yes Tim,   RTPs will fit on an Atlantis.Get em on there!!

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> On May 3, 2018, at 1:44 PM, Tim Butterfield  wrote:
> 
> Awesome info.  Thanks everyone.
> 
> The current set is Schwalbe Marathon 1.75" on Atlas wheels and there seems to 
> be plenty of space.
> 
> The RTP sound great, especially if I can still add fenders later if needed.  
> I'll go ahead and order a set.
> 
> Thanks again.
> 
> Tim
> 
>> On Wed, May 2, 2018 at 9:56 PM, Tim Butterfield  
>> wrote:
>> I have been spoiled by the Barlow Pass EL on my 700c Homer and want to have 
>> the same plush ride on my 26" Atlantis.  I doubt the Rat Trap Pass would fit 
>> at 2.3", but could probably fit the 1.8" Naches Pass and definitely the 1.5" 
>> McClure Pass.
>> 
>> Currently, I'm leaning towards the Naches Pass EL in black.  It doesn't 
>> currently have fenders and current usage doesn't require them.  I'd probably 
>> need to drop to the McClure to add fenders.  My current usage of the 
>> Atlantis is as a grab and go around town bike, which doesn't require rainy 
>> rides.
>> 
>> What would your recommendations be for this tire?
>> 
>> Thanks.
>> 
>> Tim
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[RBW] Re: Atlantis tires rec request

[Tim Butterfield]

Awesome info.  Thanks everyone.

The current set is Schwalbe Marathon 1.75" on Atlas wheels and there seems
to be plenty of space.

The RTP sound great, especially if I can still add fenders later if
needed.  I'll go ahead and order a set.

Thanks again.

Tim

On Wed, May 2, 2018 at 9:56 PM, Tim Butterfield 
wrote:

> I have been spoiled by the Barlow Pass EL on my 700c Homer and want to
> have the same plush ride on my 26" Atlantis.  I doubt the Rat Trap Pass
> would fit at 2.3", but could probably fit the 1.8" Naches Pass and
> definitely the 1.5" McClure Pass.
>
> Currently, I'm leaning towards the Naches Pass EL in black.  It doesn't
> currently have fenders and current usage doesn't require them.  I'd
> probably need to drop to the McClure to add fenders.  My current usage of
> the Atlantis is as a grab and go around town bike, which doesn't require
> rainy rides.
>
> What would your recommendations be for this tire?
>
> Thanks.
>
> Tim
>

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[RBW] Re: Atlantis tires rec request

['Clayton' via RBW Owners Bunch]

I have a 98' or 99' Toyo Atlantis and the Rat Traps fit fine. No rubbing. I 
also run 2.35 Kenda straight eights without issue. I run  fenders too. Rat 
Traps rock. 

Clayton
>
> #DirtDanceDesigns

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[RBW] Re: Atlantis tires rec request

[DarinM]

Rat Trap's are more like 49-51mm IME. That is on 17mm internal width rims, 
but I doubt they get up to 58mm/2.3" even on wide rims. I've read that 
Naches' measure closer to 40-42mm so fenders are probably still doable.

Darin

On Wednesday, May 2, 2018 at 9:56:30 PM UTC-7, Tim Butterfield wrote:
>
> I have been spoiled by the Barlow Pass EL on my 700c Homer and want to 
> have the same plush ride on my 26" Atlantis.  I doubt the Rat Trap Pass 
> would fit at 2.3", but could probably fit the 1.8" Naches Pass and 
> definitely the 1.5" McClure Pass.
>
> Currently, I'm leaning towards the Naches Pass EL in black.  It doesn't 
> currently have fenders and current usage doesn't require them.  I'd 
> probably need to drop to the McClure to add fenders.  My current usage of 
> the Atlantis is as a grab and go around town bike, which doesn't require 
> rainy rides.
>
> What would your recommendations be for this tire?
>
> Thanks.
>
> Tim
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: Atlantis tires rec request

[Tim Gavin]

Measure, and find out!

On Thu, May 3, 2018 at 9:04 AM, Drw  wrote:

> I’m pretty sure you could fit rtp in there
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[RBW] Re: Atlantis tires rec request

[Drw]

I’m pretty sure you could fit rtp in there

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[RBW] Re: Atlantis tires rec request

[tc]

Oh wait ... you said 26" -- sorry.

Tom

On Thursday, May 3, 2018 at 8:57:52 AM UTC-4, tc wrote:
>
> Tim,
> I have 2.1 Nano's on mine, and they are surprisingly fine on pavement and 
> of course have a bit of off-road tread, too.  Great on paths or gravel.  
> The center of these tires is raised to increase road performance...and not 
> too noisy.
>
> Having said that, I will def be trying a pair of the 55 Antelope Hill 
> Compass tires when they become available, supposedly late this Spring or 
> Summer.
>
> Instagram link here:  
> https://www.instagram.com/p/BhVo5GrBsNj/?taken-by=compasscycle
>
> Tom
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[RBW] Re: Atlantis tires rec request

[tc]

Tim,
I have 2.1 Nano's on mine, and they are surprisingly fine on pavement and 
of course have a bit of off-road tread, too.  Great on paths or gravel.  
The center of these tires is raised to increase road performance...and not 
too noisy.

Having said that, I will def be trying a pair of the 55 Antelope Hill 
Compass tires when they become available, supposedly late this Spring or 
Summer.

Instagram link here:  
https://www.instagram.com/p/BhVo5GrBsNj/?taken-by=compasscycle

Tom

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Re: [RBW] Re: Atlantis tires rec request

[Mike Williams]

Tim,  I have a friend who I believe has fit RTPs on his older Atlantis.   I’ll 
email later to confirm.   -Mike

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> On May 3, 2018, at 1:22 AM, Tim Butterfield  wrote:
> 
> I should probably add some clarifying thoughts.  I know both the Naches Pass 
> and McClure Pass EL will have a plush ride.  Are the Naches Pass EL likely to 
> be sufficiently more plus than the McClure Pass EL to prevent possible use of 
> a fender in future with the same tire?  I'm not planning to get fenders but, 
> if I change my mind, I would rather not have to get a whole new set of tires 
> to do it, not unless the interim ride is enough better to warrant it.  That's 
> why I was wondering about those two.
> 
> Thanks.
> 
> Tim
> 
>> On Wed, May 2, 2018 at 9:56 PM, Tim Butterfield  
>> wrote:
>> I have been spoiled by the Barlow Pass EL on my 700c Homer and want to have 
>> the same plush ride on my 26" Atlantis.  I doubt the Rat Trap Pass would fit 
>> at 2.3", but could probably fit the 1.8" Naches Pass and definitely the 1.5" 
>> McClure Pass.
>> 
>> Currently, I'm leaning towards the Naches Pass EL in black.  It doesn't 
>> currently have fenders and current usage doesn't require them.  I'd probably 
>> need to drop to the McClure to add fenders.  My current usage of the 
>> Atlantis is as a grab and go around town bike, which doesn't require rainy 
>> rides.
>> 
>> What would your recommendations be for this tire?
>> 
>> Thanks.
>> 
>> Tim
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[RBW] Re: Atlantis tires rec request

[Tim Butterfield]

I should probably add some clarifying thoughts.  I know both the Naches
Pass and McClure Pass EL will have a plush ride.  Are the Naches Pass EL
likely to be sufficiently more plus than the McClure Pass EL to prevent
possible use of a fender in future with the same tire?  I'm not planning to
get fenders but, if I change my mind, I would rather not have to get a
whole new set of tires to do it, not unless the interim ride is enough
better to warrant it.  That's why I was wondering about those two.

Thanks.

Tim

On Wed, May 2, 2018 at 9:56 PM, Tim Butterfield 
wrote:

> I have been spoiled by the Barlow Pass EL on my 700c Homer and want to
> have the same plush ride on my 26" Atlantis.  I doubt the Rat Trap Pass
> would fit at 2.3", but could probably fit the 1.8" Naches Pass and
> definitely the 1.5" McClure Pass.
>
> Currently, I'm leaning towards the Naches Pass EL in black.  It doesn't
> currently have fenders and current usage doesn't require them.  I'd
> probably need to drop to the McClure to add fenders.  My current usage of
> the Atlantis is as a grab and go around town bike, which doesn't require
> rainy rides.
>
> What would your recommendations be for this tire?
>
> Thanks.
>
> Tim
>

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