[RBW] Re: Bar end shifters on Boscos?

2018-08-30 Thread Joe Bernard
Today I'm chopping handlebars, tomorrow I'm building stretch cruisers 

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[RBW] Re: Bar end shifters on Boscos?

2018-08-30 Thread Lum Gim Fong
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[RBW] Re: Bar end shifters on Boscos?

2018-08-29 Thread Ash
Hi David,

Thanks for those pictures!  The first pic gave me a very good idea how long 
shifter lever is.

60-70% of the time I ride with hands at the top bends. That slightly leaned 
forward position is quite comfortable.  Occasionally I come back to the 
grip area for relaxing my back and shoulders (ie, a little more - even at 
the bends it is a lot more relaxed than drop bars or MTB handlebars). 
 Moving the levers forward might be perfect!  I'll try it out.  After all, 
when you need to quickly brake, it is easier to slight hands forward than 
lift and shift to grip area.

Cool idea with those grips as well.  It had not occurred to me that I could 
slide one each to various hand positions!


On Tuesday, 28 August 2018 16:21:30 UTC-7, David Wadstrup wrote:
>
> Ash,
>
> I run bar end shifters on my Clem.  It's a great set up.  I've messed 
> around with brake lever placement over the past couple of years, and 
> discovered I like having them pretty far forward on the bars.  It gives me 
> lots of room behind the levers, while still allowing me to use the downward 
> curve ahead of the levers when I want to be more aero.  I even put grips on 
> the flats near the stem and find myself using them way more than I had 
> anticipated.  Like every time I climb a hill or want to go fast.
>
> You'll see my grips are general, bike store grips.  I forget the brand. 
>  They came capped at their ends like these grips usually do, so I cut them 
> to give me access to the bar ends.  I even cut a portion of a second pair 
> to give me the extra behind-lever length I wanted.  A little surgery was 
> required on the third pair as well so I could get them down to the flats.
>
> It's true that the bar end shifters do add length to already long bars. 
>  And I do have to be extra careful doing through narrow doorways and such. 
>  Really, though, it's no big deal.  
>
>
>
>
> On Friday, August 24, 2018 at 3:59:58 PM UTC-4, Ash wrote:
>>
>> Having tried many alt bars, Bosco is currently my favorite.  For casual 
>> around the town riding as well as long rides on even surfaces, I think they 
>> will remain my top choice forever.  60% of the time I use the hand position 
>> in front of brake levers.  Both trigger shifters as well as thumb shifters 
>> (in certain gears) get in the way when I put my hands there.  Thinking of 
>> trying bar end shifters.  Does anyone use Bosco/bar end shifter combo?  How 
>> do you like it?
>>
>> On that note, if anyone has a pair of beat up old bar end shifter going 
>> cheap, I'd be interested in buying.   Want to use those for a while before 
>> investing in new ones. 
>>
>

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[RBW] Re: Bar end shifters on Boscos?

2018-08-29 Thread Ash
Joe,  what's up with you and chopping handlebars!  It seems like once one 
starts chopping handlebars it can get addictive :)


On Friday, 24 August 2018 21:23:54 UTC-7, Joe Bernard wrote:
>
> Actually it's quite simple to tell another rider what bar-ends are like on 
> a Bosco. Here's how it works: You have Boscos, you put bar-ends on them, 
> then you say what it's like. 
>
> I tried it on a Clem a couple years ago and thought it was pretty great 
> while riding, but the hopping off and getting trapped by that long bar with 
> shifter was annoying. If I did it again I would chop an inch off the bars 
> first. 
>

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[RBW] Re: Bar end shifters on Boscos?

2018-08-29 Thread Ash
Mark,  

Good point.  Giving up my Ergon grips does not sound very appealing at all! 
 Seems like another reason to try stem shifters.

Thanks for another picture of the 8-pack rack, btw!!



On Friday, 24 August 2018 19:30:03 UTC-7, Mark in Beacon wrote:
>
> Me too. I like bar end shifters, but on sweep-back bars they can be 
> problematic in some cases. Mainly though I did not want to give up the old 
> school grips.
>
> [image: clementine shifters.JPG]
>
> Yer kilometers might not come out the same as mine!
>
> On Friday, August 24, 2018 at 10:09:24 PM UTC-4, Andy H wrote:
>>
>> I've mounted my shifters on the stem and really like having all the clear 
>> space on my bars.
>>
>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: Bar end shifters on Boscos?

2018-08-29 Thread Ash
Thanks for your inputs everyone!

Garth's response made me think I should tell this story with some pictures. 
 Figured I should provide some context for each picture with some text.  It 
took couple of days to reset my Flickr account that I had not used in a 
long while.

Here's the album for folks interested in details.  
https://flic.kr/s/aHskDNehhn
Be sure to check descriptions of this pics.

After some more experimenting, I moved the shifters all the way down close 
to the flat area.  This setup seems to be better keeping them near brake 
levers.  With this arrangement I rode 45 miles last Saturday (there's 
picture of that too).  

On the Atlantis I have trigger shifters on Boscos.  The pictures show a 
small annoying problem with those.  I do not like trigger shifters anyway, 
so they are not staying.

These are all really tiny problems in reality.  Tweaking my bikes is a 
hobby for me, so I go on!

I did some cardboard experiment and found out that I'd need 13cm Tallux 
instead of the 10cm I'm using now.  Or else the shifters will hit knees 
frequently.  Likely I'll replace trigger shifters on the Atlantis with bar 
ends + 13cm Tallux.

While in theory I have not found stem mounted shifters practical, this 
thread has convinced me that I have to give them a try!


On Wednesday, 29 August 2018 10:47:39 UTC-7, Marc Irwin wrote:
>
> I use bar ends on my Hunq and stem shifters on my Sam both of which have 
> Bosco's.  I like both.  You need a long cable for the barends.
>
> Marc
>

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[RBW] Re: Bar end shifters on Boscos?

2018-08-27 Thread Paul Choi
Lester, can you post a picture of your MIT Atlantis so we can see the stem 
shifter setup?

On Monday, August 27, 2018 at 11:05:39 AM UTC-7, Lester Lammers wrote:
>
> IMHO, I'd try shifters on the stem. Handy and out of the way. Makes 
> swapping bars and stem easy. I have Billie bars on my MIT Atlantis with 
> Silver shifters + IRD stem mount. It's really personal preference.
>
> On Friday, August 24, 2018 at 3:59:58 PM UTC-4, Ash wrote:
>>
>> Having tried many alt bars, Bosco is currently my favorite.  For casual 
>> around the town riding as well as long rides on even surfaces, I think they 
>> will remain my top choice forever.  60% of the time I use the hand position 
>> in front of brake levers.  Both trigger shifters as well as thumb shifters 
>> (in certain gears) get in the way when I put my hands there.  Thinking of 
>> trying bar end shifters.  Does anyone use Bosco/bar end shifter combo?  How 
>> do you like it?
>>
>> On that note, if anyone has a pair of beat up old bar end shifter going 
>> cheap, I'd be interested in buying.   Want to use those for a while before 
>> investing in new ones. 
>>
>  
>

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[RBW] Re: Bar end shifters on Boscos?

2018-08-27 Thread masmojo
I'd love to be able to run stem mount shifters, but whenever I've tried, I've 
run into compatibility issues; might take another run at it though. 

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[RBW] Re: Bar end shifters on Boscos?

2018-08-27 Thread Lester Lammers
IMHO, I'd try shifters on the stem. Handy and out of the way. Makes 
swapping bars and stem easy. I have Billie bars on my MIT Atlantis with 
Silver shifters + IRD stem mount. It's really personal preference.

On Friday, August 24, 2018 at 3:59:58 PM UTC-4, Ash wrote:
>
> Having tried many alt bars, Bosco is currently my favorite.  For casual 
> around the town riding as well as long rides on even surfaces, I think they 
> will remain my top choice forever.  60% of the time I use the hand position 
> in front of brake levers.  Both trigger shifters as well as thumb shifters 
> (in certain gears) get in the way when I put my hands there.  Thinking of 
> trying bar end shifters.  Does anyone use Bosco/bar end shifter combo?  How 
> do you like it?
>
> On that note, if anyone has a pair of beat up old bar end shifter going 
> cheap, I'd be interested in buying.   Want to use those for a while before 
> investing in new ones. 
>
 

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[RBW] Re: Bar end shifters on Boscos?

2018-08-25 Thread Garth

 Except ... nothing can't be told . 

woosh  


ahahahahahaahah !   




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[RBW] Re: Bar end shifters on Boscos?

2018-08-25 Thread Garth


Joe, if you wanna get into a pissing match . no matter how big of a 
boat you could build you're already sunk. Go fish. 

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[RBW] Re: Bar end shifters on Boscos?

2018-08-24 Thread Joe Bernard
Actually it's quite simple to tell another rider what bar-ends are like on a 
Bosco. Here's how it works: You have Boscos, you put bar-ends on them, then you 
say what it's like. 

I tried it on a Clem a couple years ago and thought it was pretty great while 
riding, but the hopping off and getting trapped by that long bar with shifter 
was annoying. If I did it again I would chop an inch off the bars first. 

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[RBW] Re: Bar end shifters on Boscos?

2018-08-24 Thread 'Mark in Beacon' via RBW Owners Bunch
Me too. I like bar end shifters, but on sweep-back bars they can be 
problematic in some cases. Mainly though I did not want to give up the old 
school grips.

[image: clementine shifters.JPG] 

Yer kilometers might not come out the same as mine!

On Friday, August 24, 2018 at 10:09:24 PM UTC-4, Andy H wrote:
>
> I've mounted my shifters on the stem and really like having all the clear 
> space on my bars.
>
>
>

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[RBW] Re: Bar end shifters on Boscos?

2018-08-24 Thread Andy H
I've mounted my shifters on the stem and really like having all the clear 
space on my bars.


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[RBW] Re: Bar end shifters on Boscos?

2018-08-24 Thread Garth
I'd have to see your bars to know what you're talking about as to your 
current setup and what's "in the way".  If it is the setup that riv seems 
to promote, with the shifters literally "at hand", then yea . not my 
cup 'o tea but whatever floats the boat.  What about putting the shifters 
more forward of the brake levers ?  Or, if the bars are steel, bar end 
brake levers and putting some top mounted "regular" thumb shifters on the 
top of the bar where you like ?


As for the bar end shifters, only you'd know if that'd work well as only 
you are you the rider, and thus no one can tell you what that's like, since 
only you are you  ;-)  !!!


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[RBW] Re: Bar end shifters on Boscos?

2018-08-24 Thread Zed Martinez
I used the Dia Compe friction bar ends on a Bosco for about two years, 
liked it just fine, just watch your knees in tight turns. The long straight 
stretch of grippable area really lets you just slide your hand back and 
catch them with either your fingers or palm, it always felt very slick to 
me.

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