[RBW] Re: Beautiful Sam at Bikeworks NYC

2012-10-22 Thread frank
Hi Jimmy,
I'm the guy from Pittsburgh with the Atlantis.  I had a great time in
Manhattan that weekend but I missed Bikeworks NYC, maybe next time.
I got a new Roadeo frame in the mail last week, plan to build it up
over the winter.  It is beautiful!
Hope to see you again some time.  Take care.
Frank

On Oct 18, 10:37 pm, Jimmy Hutch ji...@jimmyhutchinson.com wrote:
 I spied my first look at a beautiful Sam Hillborne while visiting Bikeworks
 NYC this afternoon.  Bikeworks NYC (http://bikecult.com/works/) had a new
 Sam with double top tube, albatross bars, bar end shifters and cork grips
 on display.  It was only the 3rd Rivendell I have seen up close, the first
 being my AHH, the second an Atlantis belonging to a guy from Pittsburgh who
 was in NYC for the 5-borough bike tour.  I had to buy my AHH having never
 seen a Rivendell, so if anyone is in the market, I highly suggest stopping
 by to see the Sam in person.

 I dropped my AHH off for some routine maintenance and they were
 very accommodating.  I'll report back on the quality of service when I pick
 it up.

 -Jimmy

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[RBW] Re: Beautiful Sam at Bikeworks NYC

2012-10-22 Thread John Lee
Bikeworks is one of the good ones. Another shop I like is Continuum Cycles. 
A little on the hipster side, but they do seem to stock a lot of sundries 
(baskets, flat pedals, nitto bars). 

- J

On Sunday, October 21, 2012 7:40:28 PM UTC-4, Joe K wrote:

 The musings here about Bikeworks are encouraging me to get acquainted 
 with them.  I think I stopped in the shop 10+ years ago, but don't 
 recall much from that time.  I'm in a different borough, but I have 
 relatives in that neighborhood, so it'll be easy. 
 If a  NYC has a BOBish shop I'd bet it'd be Bikeworks. 

 When I'd finally gathered all the parts for my Riv custom, I had it 
 put together at Conrad's...I know it's a pretty upper-crusty, racy 
 type shop, but they've been there forever, and it was widely 
 recommended at the time. And the fellow who did the work (named Yee) 
 did a really good job. 

 I appreciate that bike every day.  Like today, on a ride in the 
 park.  :) 

 Joe 

 On Oct 20, 11:25 pm, James Warren jimcwar...@earthlink.net wrote: 
  That's fun to hear about, since I read the Bike Cult book around the 
 same time I was getting to know Rivendell. 
  
  Sent from my iPhone 
  
  On Oct 20, 2012, at 6:20 PM, gep71...@gmail.com wrote: 
  
  
  
   I'm sure NYC has lots of good bike shops, or at least a handful---I of 
 course wouldn't know---but I have a thing for Dave Perry, and kind of a 
 long history, although it's all recent news to me. He attended my book talk 
 when I was in NYC and was super gracious, really nice. He introduced 
 himself and I recognized him barely but knew his name from his Bike Cult 
 book of many years ago. I hooked up with an old Bstone cow-orker now living 
 in Brooklyn, and we were walking in that part of town (lower east side, I 
 think it is) and saw the same purple Zeus bike that I'd seen earlier 
 outside the place I spoke at. It was outside a bike shop (BikeWorks NYC), 
 which Dave said was his, so we went in and - if the do sell aluminum or 
 carbon, I didn't seen any. It's small, but a really good shop. I talked to 
 Ben and --- either Willard or Travis, sorry, another mechanic--and Dave, 
 and I asked him where he grew up and he said Redwood City, CA, and then for 
 me (maybe won't be to you) it got interesting. He said he raced, and I knew 
 of a Dave Perry (2x district champion on the road), and it was him. We know 
 lots of the same people. 
   The thing about Dave is, he is SOO unracy, or at least not 
 racy in an annoying way. He knows that world and those bikes and I doubt 
 there's anybody with a broader range of bike knowledge than Dave. But you'd 
 never know it, because he's so low key, as is his shop. It's like finding 
 Bob Dylan owning a record store and working the counter, stocking the bins. 
   I like NYC and I've always thought it would be good to have a dealer 
 there, so I have been talking to Dave about it. He has no room, but he 
 likes the bikes, and we sold him that Sam so he could get a feel for them. 
   It seems like a good fit, but I have too much respect for Dave and for 
 myself (and too much pride) to beg. We aren't looking for dealers at all, 
 anyway. WHen we sell to a dealer, we cut our margin to essentially nothing 
 so the dealer can make the money--the alternative being to raise the prices 
 to make room for us AND the dealer to make money, but then a $2300 bike 
 would cost $2600, and when our normal way is to sell direct, it just 
 doesn't make sense. 
   Still, I hope he becomes a dealer, and he is the only dealer in the 
 country we don't have that I really pine forbut whether he is or not, I 
 totally recommend him--as do others, I see. 
   He grew up in Redwood City, CA, about an hour-by-car from here, and we 
 raced at the same time. There were some overlapping years of it, anyway. I 
  
   On Thursday, October 18, 2012 7:37:08 PM UTC-7, Jimmy Hutch wrote: 
   I spied my first look at a beautiful Sam Hillborne while visiting 
 Bikeworks NYC this afternoon.  Bikeworks NYC (http://bikecult.com/works/) 
 had a new Sam with double top tube, albatross bars, bar end shifters and 
 cork grips on display.  It was only the 3rd Rivendell I have seen up close, 
 the first being my AHH, the second an Atlantis belonging to a guy from 
 Pittsburgh who was in NYC for the 5-borough bike tour.  I had to buy my AHH 
 having never seen a Rivendell, so if anyone is in the market, I highly 
 suggest stopping by to see the Sam in person. 
  
   I dropped my AHH off for some routine maintenance and they were very 
 accommodating.  I'll report back on the quality of service when I pick it 
 up. 
  
   -Jimmy 
  
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Re: [RBW] Re: Beautiful Sam at Bikeworks NYC

2012-10-22 Thread rb
Bicycle Habitat is a pretty good shop in NYC.  And there's a Riv-ish place 
on 2nd Ave and approx 6th St.  When I've been in either of those shops with 
variously my (now former) Saluki, or Kog, or Boulder, they've immediately 
known what it is under all the dirt.  And been very accomodating.  Also 
Adeline Adeline on Reade St is a great shop, lots of transportation bikes. 
 Check out their website.   Ron B (no longer a new yorker; in rural western 
Mass, but I travel into NYC w bikes often (usually a Bike Friday tandem).

On Saturday, October 20, 2012 11:25:41 PM UTC-4, James Warren wrote:

 That's fun to hear about, since I read the Bike Cult book around the 
 same time I was getting to know Rivendell.


 Sent from my iPhone

 On Oct 20, 2012, at 6:20 PM, gep7...@gmail.com javascript: wrote:

 I'm sure NYC has lots of good bike shops, or at least a handful---I of 
 course wouldn't know---but I have a thing for Dave Perry, and kind of a 
 long history, although it's all recent news to me. He attended my book talk 
 when I was in NYC and was super gracious, really nice. He introduced 
 himself and I recognized him barely but knew his name from his Bike Cult 
 book of many years ago. I hooked up with an old Bstone cow-orker now living 
 in Brooklyn, and we were walking in that part of town (lower east side, I 
 think it is) and saw the same purple Zeus bike that I'd seen earlier 
 outside the place I spoke at. It was outside a bike shop (BikeWorks NYC), 
 which Dave said was his, so we went in and - if the do sell aluminum or 
 carbon, I didn't seen any. It's small, but a really good shop. I talked to 
 Ben and --- either Willard or Travis, sorry, another mechanic--and Dave, 
 and I asked him where he grew up and he said Redwood City, CA, and then for 
 me (maybe won't be to you) it got interesting. He said he raced, and I knew 
 of a Dave Perry (2x district champion on the road), and it was him. We know 
 lots of the same people.
 The thing about Dave is, he is SOO unracy, or at least not racy in 
 an annoying way. He knows that world and those bikes and I doubt there's 
 anybody with a broader range of bike knowledge than Dave. But you'd never 
 know it, because he's so low key, as is his shop. It's like finding Bob 
 Dylan owning a record store and working the counter, stocking the bins.
 I like NYC and I've always thought it would be good to have a dealer 
 there, so I have been talking to Dave about it. He has no room, but he 
 likes the bikes, and we sold him that Sam so he could get a feel for them. 
 It seems like a good fit, but I have too much respect for Dave and for 
 myself (and too much pride) to beg. We aren't looking for dealers at all, 
 anyway. WHen we sell to a dealer, we cut our margin to essentially nothing 
 so the dealer can make the money--the alternative being to raise the prices 
 to make room for us AND the dealer to make money, but then a $2300 bike 
 would cost $2600, and when our normal way is to sell direct, it just 
 doesn't make sense.
 Still, I hope he becomes a dealer, and he is the only dealer in the 
 country we don't have that I really pine forbut whether he is or not, I 
 totally recommend him--as do others, I see.
 He grew up in Redwood City, CA, about an hour-by-car from here, and we 
 raced at the same time. There were some overlapping years of it, anyway. I 

 On Thursday, October 18, 2012 7:37:08 PM UTC-7, Jimmy Hutch wrote:

 I spied my first look at a beautiful Sam Hillborne while visiting 
 Bikeworks NYC this afternoon.  Bikeworks NYC (http://bikecult.com/works/) 
 had a new Sam with double top tube, albatross bars, bar end shifters and 
 cork grips on display.  It was only the 3rd Rivendell I have seen up close, 
 the first being my AHH, the second an Atlantis belonging to a guy from 
 Pittsburgh who was in NYC for the 5-borough bike tour.  I had to buy my AHH 
 having never seen a Rivendell, so if anyone is in the market, I highly 
 suggest stopping by to see the Sam in person. 

 I dropped my AHH off for some routine maintenance and they were 
 very accommodating.  I'll report back on the quality of service when I pick 
 it up.

 -Jimmy


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[RBW] Re: Beautiful Sam at Bikeworks NYC

2012-10-21 Thread Joe K
The musings here about Bikeworks are encouraging me to get acquainted
with them.  I think I stopped in the shop 10+ years ago, but don't
recall much from that time.  I'm in a different borough, but I have
relatives in that neighborhood, so it'll be easy.
If a  NYC has a BOBish shop I'd bet it'd be Bikeworks.

When I'd finally gathered all the parts for my Riv custom, I had it
put together at Conrad's...I know it's a pretty upper-crusty, racy
type shop, but they've been there forever, and it was widely
recommended at the time. And the fellow who did the work (named Yee)
did a really good job.

I appreciate that bike every day.  Like today, on a ride in the
park.  :)

Joe

On Oct 20, 11:25 pm, James Warren jimcwar...@earthlink.net wrote:
 That's fun to hear about, since I read the Bike Cult book around the same 
 time I was getting to know Rivendell.

 Sent from my iPhone

 On Oct 20, 2012, at 6:20 PM, gep71...@gmail.com wrote:



  I'm sure NYC has lots of good bike shops, or at least a handful---I of 
  course wouldn't know---but I have a thing for Dave Perry, and kind of a 
  long history, although it's all recent news to me. He attended my book talk 
  when I was in NYC and was super gracious, really nice. He introduced 
  himself and I recognized him barely but knew his name from his Bike Cult 
  book of many years ago. I hooked up with an old Bstone cow-orker now living 
  in Brooklyn, and we were walking in that part of town (lower east side, I 
  think it is) and saw the same purple Zeus bike that I'd seen earlier 
  outside the place I spoke at. It was outside a bike shop (BikeWorks NYC), 
  which Dave said was his, so we went in and - if the do sell aluminum or 
  carbon, I didn't seen any. It's small, but a really good shop. I talked to 
  Ben and --- either Willard or Travis, sorry, another mechanic--and Dave, 
  and I asked him where he grew up and he said Redwood City, CA, and then for 
  me (maybe won't be to you) it got interesting. He said he raced, and I knew 
  of a Dave Perry (2x district champion on the road), and it was him. We know 
  lots of the same people.
  The thing about Dave is, he is SOO unracy, or at least not racy in 
  an annoying way. He knows that world and those bikes and I doubt there's 
  anybody with a broader range of bike knowledge than Dave. But you'd never 
  know it, because he's so low key, as is his shop. It's like finding Bob 
  Dylan owning a record store and working the counter, stocking the bins.
  I like NYC and I've always thought it would be good to have a dealer there, 
  so I have been talking to Dave about it. He has no room, but he likes the 
  bikes, and we sold him that Sam so he could get a feel for them.
  It seems like a good fit, but I have too much respect for Dave and for 
  myself (and too much pride) to beg. We aren't looking for dealers at all, 
  anyway. WHen we sell to a dealer, we cut our margin to essentially nothing 
  so the dealer can make the money--the alternative being to raise the prices 
  to make room for us AND the dealer to make money, but then a $2300 bike 
  would cost $2600, and when our normal way is to sell direct, it just 
  doesn't make sense.
  Still, I hope he becomes a dealer, and he is the only dealer in the country 
  we don't have that I really pine forbut whether he is or not, I totally 
  recommend him--as do others, I see.
  He grew up in Redwood City, CA, about an hour-by-car from here, and we 
  raced at the same time. There were some overlapping years of it, anyway. I

  On Thursday, October 18, 2012 7:37:08 PM UTC-7, Jimmy Hutch wrote:
  I spied my first look at a beautiful Sam Hillborne while visiting Bikeworks 
  NYC this afternoon.  Bikeworks NYC (http://bikecult.com/works/) had a new 
  Sam with double top tube, albatross bars, bar end shifters and cork grips 
  on display.  It was only the 3rd Rivendell I have seen up close, the first 
  being my AHH, the second an Atlantis belonging to a guy from Pittsburgh who 
  was in NYC for the 5-borough bike tour.  I had to buy my AHH having never 
  seen a Rivendell, so if anyone is in the market, I highly suggest stopping 
  by to see the Sam in person.

  I dropped my AHH off for some routine maintenance and they were very 
  accommodating.  I'll report back on the quality of service when I pick it 
  up.

  -Jimmy

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[RBW] Re: Beautiful Sam at Bikeworks NYC

2012-10-20 Thread lungimsam


 Are they a riv dealer?



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[RBW] Re: Beautiful Sam at Bikeworks NYC

2012-10-20 Thread gep71154
I'm sure NYC has lots of good bike shops, or at least a handful---I of 
course wouldn't know---but I have a thing for Dave Perry, and kind of a 
long history, although it's all recent news to me. He attended my book talk 
when I was in NYC and was super gracious, really nice. He introduced 
himself and I recognized him barely but knew his name from his Bike Cult 
book of many years ago. I hooked up with an old Bstone cow-orker now living 
in Brooklyn, and we were walking in that part of town (lower east side, I 
think it is) and saw the same purple Zeus bike that I'd seen earlier 
outside the place I spoke at. It was outside a bike shop (BikeWorks NYC), 
which Dave said was his, so we went in and - if the do sell aluminum or 
carbon, I didn't seen any. It's small, but a really good shop. I talked to 
Ben and --- either Willard or Travis, sorry, another mechanic--and Dave, 
and I asked him where he grew up and he said Redwood City, CA, and then for 
me (maybe won't be to you) it got interesting. He said he raced, and I knew 
of a Dave Perry (2x district champion on the road), and it was him. We know 
lots of the same people.
The thing about Dave is, he is SOO unracy, or at least not racy in 
an annoying way. He knows that world and those bikes and I doubt there's 
anybody with a broader range of bike knowledge than Dave. But you'd never 
know it, because he's so low key, as is his shop. It's like finding Bob 
Dylan owning a record store and working the counter, stocking the bins.
I like NYC and I've always thought it would be good to have a dealer there, 
so I have been talking to Dave about it. He has no room, but he likes the 
bikes, and we sold him that Sam so he could get a feel for them. 
It seems like a good fit, but I have too much respect for Dave and for 
myself (and too much pride) to beg. We aren't looking for dealers at all, 
anyway. WHen we sell to a dealer, we cut our margin to essentially nothing 
so the dealer can make the money--the alternative being to raise the prices 
to make room for us AND the dealer to make money, but then a $2300 bike 
would cost $2600, and when our normal way is to sell direct, it just 
doesn't make sense.
Still, I hope he becomes a dealer, and he is the only dealer in the country 
we don't have that I really pine forbut whether he is or not, I totally 
recommend him--as do others, I see.
He grew up in Redwood City, CA, about an hour-by-car from here, and we 
raced at the same time. There were some overlapping years of it, anyway. I 

On Thursday, October 18, 2012 7:37:08 PM UTC-7, Jimmy Hutch wrote:

 I spied my first look at a beautiful Sam Hillborne while visiting 
 Bikeworks NYC this afternoon.  Bikeworks NYC (http://bikecult.com/works/) 
 had a new Sam with double top tube, albatross bars, bar end shifters and 
 cork grips on display.  It was only the 3rd Rivendell I have seen up close, 
 the first being my AHH, the second an Atlantis belonging to a guy from 
 Pittsburgh who was in NYC for the 5-borough bike tour.  I had to buy my AHH 
 having never seen a Rivendell, so if anyone is in the market, I highly 
 suggest stopping by to see the Sam in person. 

 I dropped my AHH off for some routine maintenance and they were 
 very accommodating.  I'll report back on the quality of service when I pick 
 it up.

 -Jimmy




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Re: [RBW] Re: Beautiful Sam at Bikeworks NYC

2012-10-20 Thread Peter Morgano
NYC does not have alot of good bike shops, unfortunately. On the bright
side Bikeworks NYC is an awesome shop, and are known by many the un-racer
as a place to go as a respite from the CF-sub 1000 gram crowd.

On Sat, Oct 20, 2012 at 9:20 PM, gep71...@gmail.com wrote:

 I'm sure NYC has lots of good bike shops, or at least a handful---I of
 course wouldn't know---but I have a thing for Dave Perry, and kind of a
 long history, although it's all recent news to me. He attended my book talk
 when I was in NYC and was super gracious, really nice. He introduced
 himself and I recognized him barely but knew his name from his Bike Cult
 book of many years ago. I hooked up with an old Bstone cow-orker now living
 in Brooklyn, and we were walking in that part of town (lower east side, I
 think it is) and saw the same purple Zeus bike that I'd seen earlier
 outside the place I spoke at. It was outside a bike shop (BikeWorks NYC),
 which Dave said was his, so we went in and - if the do sell aluminum or
 carbon, I didn't seen any. It's small, but a really good shop. I talked to
 Ben and --- either Willard or Travis, sorry, another mechanic--and Dave,
 and I asked him where he grew up and he said Redwood City, CA, and then for
 me (maybe won't be to you) it got interesting. He said he raced, and I knew
 of a Dave Perry (2x district champion on the road), and it was him. We know
 lots of the same people.
 The thing about Dave is, he is SOO unracy, or at least not racy in
 an annoying way. He knows that world and those bikes and I doubt there's
 anybody with a broader range of bike knowledge than Dave. But you'd never
 know it, because he's so low key, as is his shop. It's like finding Bob
 Dylan owning a record store and working the counter, stocking the bins.
 I like NYC and I've always thought it would be good to have a dealer
 there, so I have been talking to Dave about it. He has no room, but he
 likes the bikes, and we sold him that Sam so he could get a feel for them.
 It seems like a good fit, but I have too much respect for Dave and for
 myself (and too much pride) to beg. We aren't looking for dealers at all,
 anyway. WHen we sell to a dealer, we cut our margin to essentially nothing
 so the dealer can make the money--the alternative being to raise the prices
 to make room for us AND the dealer to make money, but then a $2300 bike
 would cost $2600, and when our normal way is to sell direct, it just
 doesn't make sense.
 Still, I hope he becomes a dealer, and he is the only dealer in the
 country we don't have that I really pine forbut whether he is or not, I
 totally recommend him--as do others, I see.
 He grew up in Redwood City, CA, about an hour-by-car from here, and we
 raced at the same time. There were some overlapping years of it, anyway. I

 On Thursday, October 18, 2012 7:37:08 PM UTC-7, Jimmy Hutch wrote:

 I spied my first look at a beautiful Sam Hillborne while visiting
 Bikeworks NYC this afternoon.  Bikeworks NYC (http://bikecult.com/works/)
 had a new Sam with double top tube, albatross bars, bar end shifters and
 cork grips on display.  It was only the 3rd Rivendell I have seen up close,
 the first being my AHH, the second an Atlantis belonging to a guy from
 Pittsburgh who was in NYC for the 5-borough bike tour.  I had to buy my AHH
 having never seen a Rivendell, so if anyone is in the market, I highly
 suggest stopping by to see the Sam in person.

 I dropped my AHH off for some routine maintenance and they were
 very accommodating.  I'll report back on the quality of service when I pick
 it up.

 -Jimmy


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Re: [RBW] Re: Beautiful Sam at Bikeworks NYC

2012-10-20 Thread James Warren
That's fun to hear about, since I read the Bike Cult book around the same 
time I was getting to know Rivendell.


Sent from my iPhone

On Oct 20, 2012, at 6:20 PM, gep71...@gmail.com wrote:

 I'm sure NYC has lots of good bike shops, or at least a handful---I of course 
 wouldn't know---but I have a thing for Dave Perry, and kind of a long 
 history, although it's all recent news to me. He attended my book talk when I 
 was in NYC and was super gracious, really nice. He introduced himself and I 
 recognized him barely but knew his name from his Bike Cult book of many years 
 ago. I hooked up with an old Bstone cow-orker now living in Brooklyn, and we 
 were walking in that part of town (lower east side, I think it is) and saw 
 the same purple Zeus bike that I'd seen earlier outside the place I spoke at. 
 It was outside a bike shop (BikeWorks NYC), which Dave said was his, so we 
 went in and - if the do sell aluminum or carbon, I didn't seen any. It's 
 small, but a really good shop. I talked to Ben and --- either Willard or 
 Travis, sorry, another mechanic--and Dave, and I asked him where he grew up 
 and he said Redwood City, CA, and then for me (maybe won't be to you) it got 
 interesting. He said he raced, and I knew of a Dave Perry (2x district 
 champion on the road), and it was him. We know lots of the same people.
 The thing about Dave is, he is SOO unracy, or at least not racy in an 
 annoying way. He knows that world and those bikes and I doubt there's anybody 
 with a broader range of bike knowledge than Dave. But you'd never know it, 
 because he's so low key, as is his shop. It's like finding Bob Dylan owning a 
 record store and working the counter, stocking the bins.
 I like NYC and I've always thought it would be good to have a dealer there, 
 so I have been talking to Dave about it. He has no room, but he likes the 
 bikes, and we sold him that Sam so he could get a feel for them. 
 It seems like a good fit, but I have too much respect for Dave and for myself 
 (and too much pride) to beg. We aren't looking for dealers at all, anyway. 
 WHen we sell to a dealer, we cut our margin to essentially nothing so the 
 dealer can make the money--the alternative being to raise the prices to make 
 room for us AND the dealer to make money, but then a $2300 bike would cost 
 $2600, and when our normal way is to sell direct, it just doesn't make sense.
 Still, I hope he becomes a dealer, and he is the only dealer in the country 
 we don't have that I really pine forbut whether he is or not, I totally 
 recommend him--as do others, I see.
 He grew up in Redwood City, CA, about an hour-by-car from here, and we raced 
 at the same time. There were some overlapping years of it, anyway. I 
 
 On Thursday, October 18, 2012 7:37:08 PM UTC-7, Jimmy Hutch wrote:
 I spied my first look at a beautiful Sam Hillborne while visiting Bikeworks 
 NYC this afternoon.  Bikeworks NYC (http://bikecult.com/works/) had a new Sam 
 with double top tube, albatross bars, bar end shifters and cork grips on 
 display.  It was only the 3rd Rivendell I have seen up close, the first being 
 my AHH, the second an Atlantis belonging to a guy from Pittsburgh who was in 
 NYC for the 5-borough bike tour.  I had to buy my AHH having never seen a 
 Rivendell, so if anyone is in the market, I highly suggest stopping by to see 
 the Sam in person. 
 
 I dropped my AHH off for some routine maintenance and they were very 
 accommodating.  I'll report back on the quality of service when I pick it up.
 
 -Jimmy
 
 
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