[RBW] Re: Best front rack for Hunqapillar?

[Garth]

  Scott, I suppose the person you bought it from must have changed them to 
the regular ones because the rack is sold with canti struts. Good to know 
that the regular ones work too though !  

On Saturday, August 5, 2017 at 3:15:25 PM UTC-4, Scott Blouke wrote:
>
> Garth
> I got my 27F used and it didn't come with the canti struts I just use 
> regular nitto struts to mid fork eyelets since its now on a bombadil it was 
> on a Ram w/ P Clamps.
> The 27F Pannier supports are really short so I had to shorten the bungie 
> hook on the Panniers so they would stay on.
>
>
>

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[RBW] Re: Best front rack for Hunqapillar?

[Scott Blouke]

Garth
I got my 27F used and it didn't come with the canti struts I just use 
regular nitto struts to mid fork eyelets since its now on a bombadil it was 
on a Ram w/ P Clamps.
The 27F Pannier supports are really short so I had to shorten the bungie 
hook on the Panniers so they would stay on.

On Saturday, August 5, 2017 at 11:13:21 AM UTC-7, Garth wrote:
>
>   Michele , I did mean the one that Scott linked .  I had not thought 
> about it though, but the Surly kit can even be used with that rack, though 
> I don't know it's capacity as it's not stated !   But still, having a 
> larger platform would better support a basket and you could use all sorts 
> of various bags.  
>
>   The soma rack 
> http://www.somafab.com/archives/product/porteur-rack-stainless-steel,  
> can also take small panniers on the lower horizontal rail. 
> The VO one can as well but the bag mounting interferes with the platform, 
> and the center of gravity would be higher. 
>
>As for racks like the 27F that attach @ canti mounts, that's fine if 
> your brakes have the right bolt style. Paul and Sun Tour require special 
> and very expensive ($30 pr.) bolts from Paul, ouch. 
>
>   But hey, the Nitto Big Front rack would work all around !  
>
>
>
>
>
>

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[RBW] Re: Best front rack for Hunqapillar?

[Garth]

  Michele , I did mean the one that Scott linked .  I had not thought about 
it though, but the Surly kit can even be used with that rack, though I 
don't know it's capacity as it's not stated !   But still, having a larger 
platform would better support a basket and you could use all sorts of 
various bags.  

  The soma rack 
http://www.somafab.com/archives/product/porteur-rack-stainless-steel,  can 
also take small panniers on the lower horizontal rail. 
The VO one can as well but the bag mounting interferes with the platform, 
and the center of gravity would be higher. 

   As for racks like the 27F that attach @ canti mounts, that's fine if 
your brakes have the right bolt style. Paul and Sun Tour require special 
and very expensive ($30 pr.) bolts from Paul, ouch. 

  But hey, the Nitto Big Front rack would work all around !  





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[RBW] Re: Best front rack for Hunqapillar?

[Scott Blouke]

I would infer Garth meant this 
one. 
https://store.velo-orange.com/index.php/accessories/racks-decaleurs/vo-porteur-rack.html
 
and use these for a higher attachment point instead of just the fork crown 
mount.  http://surlybikes.com/parts/small_parts/rear_rack_upper_kit

"I'd get a porteur rack of some sort, prolly the Soma Deluxe or the VO one 
with the Surly strut kit to attach to the mid fork eyelets. Then I'd either 
use a bag inside the fence of the rack or attach some other kind of 
container, just not a flimsy wire basket since they are not made to be 
attached with the basket wires."


My experience with front racks (I tend to wind up buying things picking up 
things and generally adding stuff to capacity).  I had a Nitto M-12 on a 
Rambouillet and an Ocean Air Cycles Demi Porteur bag and overloaded it too 
often and it was wobbly.  Found a used Nitto 27F and its great. Moved the 
M-12 to the SO's Betty Foy and overloaded/didn't like the safety strap Got 
a used Nitto Big Front rack w/ basket and a Makeshifter Canvas Works 
basketcase. Easy to load/unload take with and can take panniers.
I set up a differnt Betty Foy with a M-18 marks rack with both struts going 
to one mount point and the crown attachment.  Has a wald basket and I think 
its nice looks clean I think it is much better than the M-12 but I feel 
like it should have a set of longer struts to the drop out ie. Coreys Chev. 
 https://www.rivbike.com/pages/coreys-staff-bikes But once you do that I 
would go for the Nitto 27F/Big Rack for Pannier ability.


On Saturday, August 5, 2017 at 8:24:06 AM UTC-7, Michele wrote:
>
> @Garth do you mean the *Constructeur Front Rack?* 
>
> https://store.velo-orange.com/index.php/accessories/racks-decaleurs/vo-constructeur-front-rack.html
>
>
> On Saturday, August 5, 2017 at 3:42:44 AM UTC-7, Garth wrote:
>>
>> Either the Soma Deluxe Porteur or the Velo Orange one with the Surly 
>> strut kit for $35 if you plan on carrying anything more than 5 pounds. Yes, 
>> I know people do it all the time but that doesn't make it a great idea. 
>>
>> Both of these would have 4 and/or 5 point attachments and be stable. 
>>
>

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[RBW] Re: Best front rack for Hunqapillar?

[Michele]

@Garth do you mean the *Constructeur Front Rack?* 
https://store.velo-orange.com/index.php/accessories/racks-decaleurs/vo-constructeur-front-rack.html


On Saturday, August 5, 2017 at 3:42:44 AM UTC-7, Garth wrote:
>
> Either the Soma Deluxe Porteur or the Velo Orange one with the Surly strut 
> kit for $35 if you plan on carrying anything more than 5 pounds. Yes, I 
> know people do it all the time but that doesn't make it a great idea. 
>
> Both of these would have 4 and/or 5 point attachments and be stable. 
>

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[RBW] Re: Best front rack for Hunqapillar?

[Garth]

Either the Soma Deluxe Porteur or the Velo Orange one with the Surly strut kit 
for $35 if you plan on carrying anything more than 5 pounds. Yes, I know people 
do it all the time but that doesn't make it a great idea. 

Both of these would have 4 and/or 5 point attachments and be stable. 

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[RBW] Re: Best front rack for Hunqapillar?

[Michele]

Thanks for noting the Pass & Stow 3-Rail which also looks like a great 
option.

On Saturday, June 24, 2017 at 10:24:06 AM UTC-7, John wrote:
>
> Hi Michele,
>
> Out of curiosity, how much weight are you planning on putting on your 
> front rack?
>
> I use the Nitto 32F front rack w/ a basket on my Hunqapillar. The 
> version Riv sells now is sans front tab that could possibly catch on a 
> nobby front tire if the rack failed.
>
>I know it sounds like Riv is saying the rack is prone to failure when 
> recommending the use of a tether strap, but they're being super cautious. 
> Some people have been known to way overload their front racks & baskets, go 
> tearing down rocky, bumpy trails, and then look for someone else to blame 
> when they take a header over their handlebars.
>
>When I load my 32F front rack & medium Wald basket, I place heavier 
> items toward the back and center of the basket and secure my load with an 
> Irish strap, so it doesn't move around. Moving, shifting loads will stress 
> a rack and change your balance on the bike. If I have to put something 
> heavy in there, I add the tether strap, but I don't really like placing a 
> heavy load up front because of the extra wheel flop. Normal rando bag loads 
> should be fine. 
>
>If you plan on regular expedition loads, or carrying cases of beer, 
> sets of encyclopedias, or loads of firewood, you might prefer using the 
> Nitto 34F or the 27F w/o the lowrider racks under your basket or front bag.
>
>Another good choice is the Pass & Stow 3-Rail rack or Porteur rack. 
> Matt Feeney is a great guy, and makes a really good rack if you need 
> something for serious cargo. I have both and the 3-Rail rack is a good 
> option if you want something like the Nitto 32F, but made for heavier loads.
>
> I hope this helps a bit,
>
> John
>
>
>
>
>
> On Friday, June 23, 2017 at 5:13:22 PM UTC-7, Michele wrote:
>>
>> What are people using for a small rack to support a rando bag or basket? 
>> I'm wondering if the Nitto M-12 rack would work? Is there something more 
>> appropriate?
>>
>
> On Friday, June 23, 2017 at 5:13:22 PM UTC-7, Michele wrote:
>>
>> What are people using for a small rack to support a rando bag or basket? 
>> I'm wondering if the Nitto M-12 rack would work? Is there something more 
>> appropriate?
>>
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: Best front rack for Hunqapillar?

[Michele Mizejewski]

Bill thanks for highlighting the 4 point racks which alleviate the risk. I
also love that the Nitto 27F has removable pannier extensions, in case I
don't need those on a daily basis. I think I'm on the right track now :)

On Sat, Jun 24, 2017 at 9:29 AM, Bill Lindsay  wrote:

> Michele asked for thoughts about Rivendell's guidance to use a tether with
> a Nitto 32F front rack, calling it a junky addition.
>
> Rivendell is being very cautious with your safety, it's true.  Every rack
> in the world that attaches in three points like the 32F has a bolt on
> attachment the fork crown.  It is very unlikely that attachment point will
> fail, on the 32F or any other similar 3-point attachment rack.  Very very
> unlikely.  But, if that attachment point does fail, it is extremely likely
> that the rider's head will hit the ground very very hard.  So, the
> likelihood is tiny, but the severity is extreme.  Rivendell would prefer to
> lose a few sales by recommending caution.  Every 3-point rack in the world
> has the same risk, but only Rivendell is cautious enough to warn you about
> it.  It's not that they think the rack will fail, but they don't think your
> head should get slammed if you accidentally overload your rack and forget
> to inspect your equipment from time to time. They trust the rack, but it's
> harder to trust all possible human users of the rack.
>
> Rivendell and some other vendors won't sell or recommend metal fenders for
> similar reasons.  Metal fenders are very reliable, when used correctly.
> Various human mistakes, along with bad luck, can conspire to lead to a
> metal front fender putting your head on the ground as well.
>
> The 32F rack is much more appropriate for your Hunqapillar than an M12.
> I'm using four point racks more and more often now.  A four point front
> rack has no single point of failure.  If one thing fails, it flops around
> and makes noise, giving you the opportunity to stop and fix it.  My
> favorite is the Nitto 27F.  Another excellent four point rack is the
> immense Nitto 34F, the Big Front Rack.  I run that on my tandem.
>
> Bill Lindsay
> El Cerrito, CA
>
>
> On Saturday, June 24, 2017 at 9:03:17 AM UTC-7, Michele wrote:
>>
>> Thanks all for the input. I've never had a front rack before, and it's a
>> bit confusing. I notice that in the 32F page, Riv says, "ALWAYS use this
>> rack with a tether." Seems like the rack should be well-made enough not to
>> require that junky addition. What are the thoughts of those with experience?
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Michele
>>
>> On Friday, June 23, 2017 at 5:13:22 PM UTC-7, Michele wrote:
>>>
>>> What are people using for a small rack to support a rando bag or basket?
>>> I'm wondering if the Nitto M-12 rack would work? Is there something more
>>> appropriate?
>>>
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[RBW] Re: Best front rack for Hunqapillar?

[John]

Hi Michele,

Out of curiosity, how much weight are you planning on putting on your 
front rack?

I use the Nitto 32F front rack w/ a basket on my Hunqapillar. The 
version Riv sells now is sans front tab that could possibly catch on a 
nobby front tire if the rack failed.

   I know it sounds like Riv is saying the rack is prone to failure when 
recommending the use of a tether strap, but they're being super cautious. 
Some people have been known to way overload their front racks & baskets, go 
tearing down rocky, bumpy trails, and then look for someone else to blame 
when they take a header over their handlebars.

   When I load my 32F front rack & medium Wald basket, I place heavier 
items toward the back and center of the basket and secure my load with an 
Irish strap, so it doesn't move around. Moving, shifting loads will stress 
a rack and change your balance on the bike. If I have to put something 
heavy in there, I add the tether strap, but I don't really like placing a 
heavy load up front because of the extra wheel flop. Normal rando bag loads 
should be fine. 

   If you plan on regular expedition loads, or carrying cases of beer, sets 
of encyclopedias, or loads of firewood, you might prefer using the Nitto 
34F or the 27F w/o the lowrider racks under your basket or front bag.

   Another good choice is the Pass & Stow 3-Rail rack or Porteur rack. Matt 
Feeney is a great guy, and makes a really good rack if you need something 
for serious cargo. I have both and the 3-Rail rack is a good option if you 
want something like the Nitto 32F, but made for heavier loads.

I hope this helps a bit,

John





On Friday, June 23, 2017 at 5:13:22 PM UTC-7, Michele wrote:
>
> What are people using for a small rack to support a rando bag or basket? 
> I'm wondering if the Nitto M-12 rack would work? Is there something more 
> appropriate?
>

On Friday, June 23, 2017 at 5:13:22 PM UTC-7, Michele wrote:
>
> What are people using for a small rack to support a rando bag or basket? 
> I'm wondering if the Nitto M-12 rack would work? Is there something more 
> appropriate?
>

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[RBW] Re: Best front rack for Hunqapillar?

[Bill Lindsay]

Michele asked for thoughts about Rivendell's guidance to use a tether with 
a Nitto 32F front rack, calling it a junky addition.

Rivendell is being very cautious with your safety, it's true.  Every rack 
in the world that attaches in three points like the 32F has a bolt on 
attachment the fork crown.  It is very unlikely that attachment point will 
fail, on the 32F or any other similar 3-point attachment rack.  Very very 
unlikely.  But, if that attachment point does fail, it is extremely likely 
that the rider's head will hit the ground very very hard.  So, the 
likelihood is tiny, but the severity is extreme.  Rivendell would prefer to 
lose a few sales by recommending caution.  Every 3-point rack in the world 
has the same risk, but only Rivendell is cautious enough to warn you about 
it.  It's not that they think the rack will fail, but they don't think your 
head should get slammed if you accidentally overload your rack and forget 
to inspect your equipment from time to time. They trust the rack, but it's 
harder to trust all possible human users of the rack.

Rivendell and some other vendors won't sell or recommend metal fenders for 
similar reasons.  Metal fenders are very reliable, when used correctly. 
 Various human mistakes, along with bad luck, can conspire to lead to a 
metal front fender putting your head on the ground as well.  

The 32F rack is much more appropriate for your Hunqapillar than an M12. 
 I'm using four point racks more and more often now.  A four point front 
rack has no single point of failure.  If one thing fails, it flops around 
and makes noise, giving you the opportunity to stop and fix it.  My 
favorite is the Nitto 27F.  Another excellent four point rack is the 
immense Nitto 34F, the Big Front Rack.  I run that on my tandem.  

Bill Lindsay
El Cerrito, CA


On Saturday, June 24, 2017 at 9:03:17 AM UTC-7, Michele wrote:
>
> Thanks all for the input. I've never had a front rack before, and it's a 
> bit confusing. I notice that in the 32F page, Riv says, "ALWAYS use this 
> rack with a tether." Seems like the rack should be well-made enough not to 
> require that junky addition. What are the thoughts of those with experience?
>
> Thanks,
> Michele
>
> On Friday, June 23, 2017 at 5:13:22 PM UTC-7, Michele wrote:
>>
>> What are people using for a small rack to support a rando bag or basket? 
>> I'm wondering if the Nitto M-12 rack would work? Is there something more 
>> appropriate?
>>
>

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[RBW] Re: Best front rack for Hunqapillar?

[Michele]

Thanks all for the input. I've never had a front rack before, and it's a 
bit confusing. I notice that in the 32F page, Riv says, "ALWAYS use this 
rack with a tether." Seems like the rack should be well-made enough not to 
require that junky addition. What are the thoughts of those with experience?

Thanks,
Michele

On Friday, June 23, 2017 at 5:13:22 PM UTC-7, Michele wrote:
>
> What are people using for a small rack to support a rando bag or basket? 
> I'm wondering if the Nitto M-12 rack would work? Is there something more 
> appropriate?
>

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[RBW] Re: Best front rack for Hunqapillar?

[Marc Irwin]

On Saturday, June 24, 2017 at 10:48:04 AM UTC-4, Marc Irwin wrote:
>
> I like the Surly front rack.  Granted it's not finished as well and ain't 
> quite pretty, but it certainly is functional and I'm a lot happier than I 
> was with Blackburn lowriders.  That of course is a little beefier than 
> holding a rando bag, and I think the Nitto Campee would be the ideal for 
> the Hunq, because you can use or remove the lowrider racks at will and 
> still have a nice platform for a rando bag.
> I have a couple of posts on my blog concerning the change.
> http://simplecycle-marc.blogspot.com/2015/06/the-evolving-mammoth.html
>
> http://simplecycle-marc.blogspot.com/2015/03/been-busy-feeling-sorry-for-myself.html
>
> Marc
>
> On Friday, June 23, 2017 at 8:13:22 PM UTC-4, Michele wrote:
>>
>> What are people using for a small rack to support a rando bag or basket? 
>> I'm wondering if the Nitto M-12 rack would work? Is there something more 
>> appropriate?
>>
>

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[RBW] Re: Best front rack for Hunqapillar?

[Marc Irwin]

I like the Surly front rack.  Granted it's not finished as well and ain't 
quite pretty, but it certainly is functional and I'm a lot happier than I 
was with Blackburn lowriders.
I have a couple of posts on my blog concerning the change.
http://simplecycle-marc.blogspot.com/2015/06/the-evolving-mammoth.html
http://simplecycle-marc.blogspot.com/2015/03/been-busy-feeling-sorry-for-myself.html

Marc

On Friday, June 23, 2017 at 8:13:22 PM UTC-4, Michele wrote:
>
> What are people using for a small rack to support a rando bag or basket? 
> I'm wondering if the Nitto M-12 rack would work? Is there something more 
> appropriate?
>

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[RBW] Re: Best front rack for Hunqapillar?

[Orc]

On Friday, June 23, 2017 at 5:13:22 PM UTC-7, Michele wrote:
>
> What are people using for a small rack to support a rando bag or basket? 
> I'm wondering if the Nitto M-12 rack would work? Is there something more 
> appropriate?
>

I just braze up a 10x8 rack, which is a perfect size to fit the perimeter 
of a rando bag and apparently is also a good size to have a wire basket 
ziptied to it.   The super-narrow rando-style racks are fine, I guess, but 
rando bags tend to sag on them unless you do some heroic measures like also 
using a decaleur or drilling holes in the bottom and bolting them to the 
rack pjw-style.

-david parsons 

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[RBW] Re: Best front rack for Hunqapillar?

[Shoji Takahashi]

Unfortunately, Hauling Colin isn't making the porteur rack. 

Riv uses the Mini-Front 32F, which is great for medium Wald basket
https://www.rivbike.com/collections/racks/products/nitto-mini-front-rack-32f-20020

Nitto M12 will probably work. (Riv prefers not to use canti-posts for rack 
mounts.)

Good luck!
shoji

On Friday, June 23, 2017 at 8:49:53 PM UTC-4, Daniel Jackson wrote:
>
> Hauling Colin porteur rack fits perfectly. 

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