[RBW] Re: Best summer cycling caps?
Indeed, Hugh. Though my innate thriftiness says I've got all the coverage I need for my rock-storage-cavity. Those possum hats do wonders! With abandon, Patrick On Sunday, December 8, 2013 10:26:19 PM UTC-7, hsmitham wrote: Patrick Deacon, John's suggested link for Rothera Cycling hats might fit your Scottisness...tartan and McAllisterhttp://www.rotheracycling.com/products/mcallister patterned caps for your wee noggin. ~Hugh On Thursday, December 5, 2013 8:09:07 AM UTC-8, johnb wrote: Patrick, I have a melon head (7 1/2) and love Rothera Cycling hats - http://www.rotheracycling.com Great fit, look good, pretty rain resistant, well made (used to be in Philly and now located in Austin). I have three. Two thumbs way up. john On Tuesday, December 3, 2013 2:11:29 PM UTC-5, Patrick Moore wrote: Best in reference to the following criteria, in order of their importance to ME: 1. Stay on very large head with a lot of thick hair. (Riv caps don't stay on well -- too shallow? When I had a pony tail, I'd add a loop behind to go under the tail, this acting as an anchor. I no longer have a 'tail, but I do have long hair.) 2. Short bill. (I do fold the bills to shorten them, but would prefer not to. My customs have 4 cm bills, which is about right. Riv caps have bills way too long.) 3. Well made -- thickish, absorbent fabric, good elastic, good seams. (RIv is good here.) 4. Sightly (as opposed to unsightly); defined as a happy mean between excessively tweedish and excessively roady-ish (ancient team logos and colors are great; Molteni outstanding). (Riv is good here, but would prefer more variety in logo.) 5. Not yuppie priced. (RIv good here.) I've used Rivs, customs (little package dot com) and Nashbar's retros (Molteni!) as well as Walz (their winter cap is great; not so much their summer ones -- don't stay on my head! The Nashbars are the best (for me) so far, but they are rather cheaply made. Anything giving 1 thru 3 is worth considering. Thanks. -- *RESUMES THAT GET YOU NOTICED!* Certified Resume Writer http://resumespecialties.com/index.html patric...@resumespecialties.com http://www.linkedin.com/in/patrickmooreresumespec/ Albuquerque, NM -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Best summer cycling caps?
cooler yet would be to buy a yard of your own clan tartan and send it to one of the hatmakers on etsy http://www.lochcarron.com/reiver/macalpine.html On Monday, December 9, 2013 5:42:32 AM UTC-6, Deacon Patrick wrote: Indeed, Hugh. Though my innate thriftiness says I've got all the coverage I need for my rock-storage-cavity. Those possum hats do wonders! With abandon, Patrick On Sunday, December 8, 2013 10:26:19 PM UTC-7, hsmitham wrote: Patrick Deacon, John's suggested link for Rothera Cycling hats might fit your Scottisness...tartan and McAllisterhttp://www.rotheracycling.com/products/mcallister patterned caps for your wee noggin. ~Hugh On Thursday, December 5, 2013 8:09:07 AM UTC-8, johnb wrote: Patrick, I have a melon head (7 1/2) and love Rothera Cycling hats - http://www.rotheracycling.com Great fit, look good, pretty rain resistant, well made (used to be in Philly and now located in Austin). I have three. Two thumbs way up. john On Tuesday, December 3, 2013 2:11:29 PM UTC-5, Patrick Moore wrote: Best in reference to the following criteria, in order of their importance to ME: 1. Stay on very large head with a lot of thick hair. (Riv caps don't stay on well -- too shallow? When I had a pony tail, I'd add a loop behind to go under the tail, this acting as an anchor. I no longer have a 'tail, but I do have long hair.) 2. Short bill. (I do fold the bills to shorten them, but would prefer not to. My customs have 4 cm bills, which is about right. Riv caps have bills way too long.) 3. Well made -- thickish, absorbent fabric, good elastic, good seams. (RIv is good here.) 4. Sightly (as opposed to unsightly); defined as a happy mean between excessively tweedish and excessively roady-ish (ancient team logos and colors are great; Molteni outstanding). (Riv is good here, but would prefer more variety in logo.) 5. Not yuppie priced. (RIv good here.) I've used Rivs, customs (little package dot com) and Nashbar's retros (Molteni!) as well as Walz (their winter cap is great; not so much their summer ones -- don't stay on my head! The Nashbars are the best (for me) so far, but they are rather cheaply made. Anything giving 1 thru 3 is worth considering. Thanks. -- *RESUMES THAT GET YOU NOTICED!* Certified Resume Writer http://resumespecialties.com/index.html patric...@resumespecialties.com http://www.linkedin.com/in/patrickmooreresumespec/ Albuquerque, NM -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Best summer cycling caps?
Patrick Deacon, John's suggested link for Rothera Cycling hats might fit your Scottisness...tartan and McAllisterhttp://www.rotheracycling.com/products/mcallister patterned caps for your wee noggin. ~Hugh On Thursday, December 5, 2013 8:09:07 AM UTC-8, johnb wrote: Patrick, I have a melon head (7 1/2) and love Rothera Cycling hats - http://www.rotheracycling.com Great fit, look good, pretty rain resistant, well made (used to be in Philly and now located in Austin). I have three. Two thumbs way up. john On Tuesday, December 3, 2013 2:11:29 PM UTC-5, Patrick Moore wrote: Best in reference to the following criteria, in order of their importance to ME: 1. Stay on very large head with a lot of thick hair. (Riv caps don't stay on well -- too shallow? When I had a pony tail, I'd add a loop behind to go under the tail, this acting as an anchor. I no longer have a 'tail, but I do have long hair.) 2. Short bill. (I do fold the bills to shorten them, but would prefer not to. My customs have 4 cm bills, which is about right. Riv caps have bills way too long.) 3. Well made -- thickish, absorbent fabric, good elastic, good seams. (RIv is good here.) 4. Sightly (as opposed to unsightly); defined as a happy mean between excessively tweedish and excessively roady-ish (ancient team logos and colors are great; Molteni outstanding). (Riv is good here, but would prefer more variety in logo.) 5. Not yuppie priced. (RIv good here.) I've used Rivs, customs (little package dot com) and Nashbar's retros (Molteni!) as well as Walz (their winter cap is great; not so much their summer ones -- don't stay on my head! The Nashbars are the best (for me) so far, but they are rather cheaply made. Anything giving 1 thru 3 is worth considering. Thanks. -- *RESUMES THAT GET YOU NOTICED!* Certified Resume Writer http://resumespecialties.com/index.html patric...@resumespecialties.com http://www.linkedin.com/in/patrickmooreresumespec/ Albuquerque, NM -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Best summer cycling caps?
Thanks for all the advice. All is being archived for future ref. Right now, these look like the top of the short list: http://www.etsy.com/shop/alloneword But only if I can customize the aesthetics. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Best summer cycling caps?
This will solve any aesthetics issues: http://www.etsy.com/listing/150013995/add-an-embroidered-unicorn-many-colors?ref=shop_home_active With abandon, Patrick On Friday, December 6, 2013 2:52:25 PM UTC-7, Patrick Moore wrote: Thanks for all the advice. All is being archived for future ref. Right now, these look like the top of the short list: http://www.etsy.com/shop/alloneword But only if I can customize the aesthetics. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Best summer cycling caps?
I just ordered a Sputnik a couple of days ago, after reading this thread. I've included my hat size, but have not heard back from the maker. KJ On Friday, December 6, 2013 4:52:25 PM UTC-5, bertin753 wrote: Thanks for all the advice. All is being archived for future ref. Right now, these look like the top of the short list: http://www.etsy.com/shop/alloneword But only if I can customize the aesthetics. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Best summer cycling caps?
Patrick, I have a melon head (7 1/2) and love Rothera Cycling hats - http://www.rotheracycling.com Great fit, look good, pretty rain resistant, well made (used to be in Philly and now located in Austin). I have three. Two thumbs way up. john On Tuesday, December 3, 2013 2:11:29 PM UTC-5, Patrick Moore wrote: Best in reference to the following criteria, in order of their importance to ME: 1. Stay on very large head with a lot of thick hair. (Riv caps don't stay on well -- too shallow? When I had a pony tail, I'd add a loop behind to go under the tail, this acting as an anchor. I no longer have a 'tail, but I do have long hair.) 2. Short bill. (I do fold the bills to shorten them, but would prefer not to. My customs have 4 cm bills, which is about right. Riv caps have bills way too long.) 3. Well made -- thickish, absorbent fabric, good elastic, good seams. (RIv is good here.) 4. Sightly (as opposed to unsightly); defined as a happy mean between excessively tweedish and excessively roady-ish (ancient team logos and colors are great; Molteni outstanding). (Riv is good here, but would prefer more variety in logo.) 5. Not yuppie priced. (RIv good here.) I've used Rivs, customs (little package dot com) and Nashbar's retros (Molteni!) as well as Walz (their winter cap is great; not so much their summer ones -- don't stay on my head! The Nashbars are the best (for me) so far, but they are rather cheaply made. Anything giving 1 thru 3 is worth considering. Thanks. -- *RESUMES THAT GET YOU NOTICED!* Certified Resume Writer http://resumespecialties.com/index.html patric...@resumespecialties.com javascript: http://www.linkedin.com/in/patrickmooreresumespec/ Albuquerque, NM -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Best summer cycling caps?
Patrick - I'd recommend one of these. It seems to fit all of your criteria. Oh, btw, the product advertised on the cap is about as good as it gets, too! https://store.surlybrewing.com/ProductDetails.asp?ProductCode=castro%2Dhat On Tuesday, December 3, 2013 1:11:29 PM UTC-6, Patrick Moore wrote: Best in reference to the following criteria, in order of their importance to ME: 1. Stay on very large head with a lot of thick hair. (Riv caps don't stay on well -- too shallow? When I had a pony tail, I'd add a loop behind to go under the tail, this acting as an anchor. I no longer have a 'tail, but I do have long hair.) 2. Short bill. (I do fold the bills to shorten them, but would prefer not to. My customs have 4 cm bills, which is about right. Riv caps have bills way too long.) 3. Well made -- thickish, absorbent fabric, good elastic, good seams. (RIv is good here.) 4. Sightly (as opposed to unsightly); defined as a happy mean between excessively tweedish and excessively roady-ish (ancient team logos and colors are great; Molteni outstanding). (Riv is good here, but would prefer more variety in logo.) 5. Not yuppie priced. (RIv good here.) I've used Rivs, customs (little package dot com) and Nashbar's retros (Molteni!) as well as Walz (their winter cap is great; not so much their summer ones -- don't stay on my head! The Nashbars are the best (for me) so far, but they are rather cheaply made. Anything giving 1 thru 3 is worth considering. Thanks. -- *RESUMES THAT GET YOU NOTICED!* Certified Resume Writer http://resumespecialties.com/index.html patric...@resumespecialties.com javascript: http://www.linkedin.com/in/patrickmooreresumespec/ Albuquerque, NM -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Best summer cycling caps?
A Castro Hat! That should go over nicely in ABQ! Grin. With abandon, Patrick On Wednesday, December 4, 2013 10:06:52 AM UTC-7, George Schick wrote: Patrick - I'd recommend one of these. It seems to fit all of your criteria. Oh, btw, the product advertised on the cap is about as good as it gets, too! https://store.surlybrewing.com/ProductDetails.asp?ProductCode=castro%2Dhat On Tuesday, December 3, 2013 1:11:29 PM UTC-6, Patrick Moore wrote: Best in reference to the following criteria, in order of their importance to ME: 1. Stay on very large head with a lot of thick hair. (Riv caps don't stay on well -- too shallow? When I had a pony tail, I'd add a loop behind to go under the tail, this acting as an anchor. I no longer have a 'tail, but I do have long hair.) 2. Short bill. (I do fold the bills to shorten them, but would prefer not to. My customs have 4 cm bills, which is about right. Riv caps have bills way too long.) 3. Well made -- thickish, absorbent fabric, good elastic, good seams. (RIv is good here.) 4. Sightly (as opposed to unsightly); defined as a happy mean between excessively tweedish and excessively roady-ish (ancient team logos and colors are great; Molteni outstanding). (Riv is good here, but would prefer more variety in logo.) 5. Not yuppie priced. (RIv good here.) I've used Rivs, customs (little package dot com) and Nashbar's retros (Molteni!) as well as Walz (their winter cap is great; not so much their summer ones -- don't stay on my head! The Nashbars are the best (for me) so far, but they are rather cheaply made. Anything giving 1 thru 3 is worth considering. Thanks. -- *RESUMES THAT GET YOU NOTICED!* Certified Resume Writer http://resumespecialties.com/index.html patric...@resumespecialties.com http://www.linkedin.com/in/patrickmooreresumespec/ Albuquerque, NM -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: Best summer cycling caps?
Sorry, Patrick, I haven't tried their cotton caps before. So, I don't know about sizing. You may want to measure your dome and give them a ring. I hear their customer service is very good. The wool caps I have from them are super stretchy--no discomfort at all for me, unlike some of the other wool caps I own. Best of luck, Lee On Tue, Dec 3, 2013 at 3:51 PM, Patrick Moore bertin...@gmail.com wrote: Lee -- how do they fit a big head with a lot of hair? The price is certainly good! Thanks. On Tue, Dec 3, 2013 at 3:01 PM, Lee Chae leec...@stanford.edu wrote: I'm a fan of the Kucharik wool caps, though they do carry cotton ones in many styles. Here are the plain ones: http://www.kucharikclothing.com/stock-color-cycling-cap-p-136.html?osCsid=7g4m3n4o1vc986dj4qc3m49dn6 Best, Lee On Tue, Dec 3, 2013 at 1:45 PM, Bertin753 bertin...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks. How do they fit big heads and big hair? Well made? I can eyeball the brims. Patrick Moore, who almost lost his Nash at PDM cap just now in gusty ABQ, NM. Patrick Moore iPhone On Dec 3, 2013, at 1:48 PM, Garth garth...@gmail.com wrote: Pace has a huge selection , cotton, wool, coolmax . Browse all the collections, then buy from them or google it and find someone else who sells it. http://www.pacesportswear.com/2013technicalcollection.aspx Too bad Patagonia doesn't still make caps like this I have one and it will likely outlast me ... I bought it in the early 90's. http://i.ebayimg.com/t/Vintage-Patagonia-5-panel-mesh-Hat-Cap-Cycling-Medium-/00/s/MTA2NlgxNjAw/z/PPwAAOxyaqlSTH~e/$%28KGrHqNHJFIFIu!bbC3uBSTH+ePmUw~~60_57.JPG -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- *RESUMES THAT GET YOU NOTICED!* Certified Resume Writer http://resumespecialties.com/index.html patrickmo...@resumespecialties.com http://www.linkedin.com/in/patrickmooreresumespec/ Albuquerque, NM -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Best summer cycling caps?
Patrick As a large cranium'd human, I've followed this thread with interest. My Scandinavian/Scottish HAIRitage has my skull more thinly and flatly turfed than yours but I think the sheer volume of my 7-7/8 hat size still qualifies me in melon-headedness. I'd like you to do the following. Please buy three (3) (III) of these: http://a248.e.akamai.net/origin-cdn.volusion.com/ctxtv.wmppt/v/vspfiles/photos/ac8L-1.jpg?1355759760 Why three? (3!) Excellent question. I've found that sizing variation in some garments provide inconsistent fit (and more importantly feel), so I absolutely cannot commit to purchasing any until you provide me a detailed report. Furthermore, please keep track of each of the three, as I must know how fit and performance evolves over time with use and more importantly over washings (and please PLEASE do not forget to keep track of feel). Do they soften and wear in? Or become lumpy and shapeless (I will not countenance G-D shapelessness!) Does the drawstring provide enough security in the face of, say 30-35mph headwinds, particularly from the front right? I've found I duck into headwinds a little to the left, so rightward biased headwinds are particularly threatening to dislodge my chapeau. Does any security come at the expense of constriction when climbing? Particularly with a slow metronomic meditative cadence in a ~67 gear? I will not have my meditation-climbing interrupted by a restrictive lid! Is there uniformity in shrinkage with washings? If so, in what way, please limit no details, I can take the full truth. Is the seaming sufficiently reinforced. If not, can you please provide three (3) seamstress estimate quotes for necessary alterations and reinforcements. Thanks! Bill trying to provide some of those single for ten thousand somethings on this cold Autumn afternoon after having ridden the '09 'dil a ful 7/10ths mile round trip to lunch in said Arctic Wasteland of South Hayward, CA Lindsay On Tuesday, December 3, 2013 11:11:29 AM UTC-8, Patrick Moore wrote: Best in reference to the following criteria, in order of their importance to ME: 1. Stay on very large head with a lot of thick hair. (Riv caps don't stay on well -- too shallow? When I had a pony tail, I'd add a loop behind to go under the tail, this acting as an anchor. I no longer have a 'tail, but I do have long hair.) 2. Short bill. (I do fold the bills to shorten them, but would prefer not to. My customs have 4 cm bills, which is about right. Riv caps have bills way too long.) 3. Well made -- thickish, absorbent fabric, good elastic, good seams. (RIv is good here.) 4. Sightly (as opposed to unsightly); defined as a happy mean between excessively tweedish and excessively roady-ish (ancient team logos and colors are great; Molteni outstanding). (Riv is good here, but would prefer more variety in logo.) 5. Not yuppie priced. (RIv good here.) I've used Rivs, customs (little package dot com) and Nashbar's retros (Molteni!) as well as Walz (their winter cap is great; not so much their summer ones -- don't stay on my head! The Nashbars are the best (for me) so far, but they are rather cheaply made. Anything giving 1 thru 3 is worth considering. Thanks. -- *RESUMES THAT GET YOU NOTICED!* Certified Resume Writer http://resumespecialties.com/index.html patric...@resumespecialties.com javascript: http://www.linkedin.com/in/patrickmooreresumespec/ Albuquerque, NM -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Best summer cycling caps?
A medium brimmed Tilley meets all but 2. http://www.tilley.com/The-T5MO-Tilley-Organic-AIRFLO-Hat.aspx is my personal preference. With abandon, Patrick On Tuesday, December 3, 2013 12:11:29 PM UTC-7, Patrick Moore wrote: Best in reference to the following criteria, in order of their importance to ME: 1. Stay on very large head with a lot of thick hair. (Riv caps don't stay on well -- too shallow? When I had a pony tail, I'd add a loop behind to go under the tail, this acting as an anchor. I no longer have a 'tail, but I do have long hair.) 2. Short bill. (I do fold the bills to shorten them, but would prefer not to. My customs have 4 cm bills, which is about right. Riv caps have bills way too long.) 3. Well made -- thickish, absorbent fabric, good elastic, good seams. (RIv is good here.) 4. Sightly (as opposed to unsightly); defined as a happy mean between excessively tweedish and excessively roady-ish (ancient team logos and colors are great; Molteni outstanding). (Riv is good here, but would prefer more variety in logo.) 5. Not yuppie priced. (RIv good here.) I've used Rivs, customs (little package dot com) and Nashbar's retros (Molteni!) as well as Walz (their winter cap is great; not so much their summer ones -- don't stay on my head! The Nashbars are the best (for me) so far, but they are rather cheaply made. Anything giving 1 thru 3 is worth considering. Thanks. -- *RESUMES THAT GET YOU NOTICED!* Certified Resume Writer http://resumespecialties.com/index.html patric...@resumespecialties.com javascript: http://www.linkedin.com/in/patrickmooreresumespec/ Albuquerque, NM -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: Best summer cycling caps?
Thanks, and I'd certainly like one for hiking, but for cycling, missing #2 by so long a mile is no go. Actually, with our wind and the extra aerofoil surfaces, this would probably miss #1 by a long mile, too. On Tue, Dec 3, 2013 at 12:17 PM, Deacon Patrick lamontg...@mac.com wrote: A medium brimmed Tilley meets all but 2. http://www.tilley.com/The-T5MO-Tilley-Organic-AIRFLO-Hat.aspx is my personal preference. With abandon, Patrick On Tuesday, December 3, 2013 12:11:29 PM UTC-7, Patrick Moore wrote: Best in reference to the following criteria, in order of their importance to ME: 1. Stay on very large head with a lot of thick hair. (Riv caps don't stay on well -- too shallow? When I had a pony tail, I'd add a loop behind to go under the tail, this acting as an anchor. I no longer have a 'tail, but I do have long hair.) 2. Short bill. (I do fold the bills to shorten them, but would prefer not to. My customs have 4 cm bills, which is about right. Riv caps have bills way too long.) 3. Well made -- thickish, absorbent fabric, good elastic, good seams. (RIv is good here.) 4. Sightly (as opposed to unsightly); defined as a happy mean between excessively tweedish and excessively roady-ish (ancient team logos and colors are great; Molteni outstanding). (Riv is good here, but would prefer more variety in logo.) 5. Not yuppie priced. (RIv good here.) I've used Rivs, customs (little package dot com) and Nashbar's retros (Molteni!) as well as Walz (their winter cap is great; not so much their summer ones -- don't stay on my head! The Nashbars are the best (for me) so far, but they are rather cheaply made. Anything giving 1 thru 3 is worth considering. Thanks. -- *RESUMES THAT GET YOU NOTICED!* Certified Resume Writer http://resumespecialties.com/index.html patric...@resumespecialties.com http://www.linkedin.com/in/patrickmooreresumespec/ Albuquerque, NM -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- *RESUMES THAT GET YOU NOTICED!* Certified Resume Writer http://resumespecialties.com/index.html patrickmo...@resumespecialties.com http://www.linkedin.com/in/patrickmooreresumespec/ Albuquerque, NM -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Best summer cycling caps?
I fear the other Patrick will DQ that hat on the grounds of it not being a cycling cap, not having a short brim, and for being yuppie priced. :-( On Tuesday, December 3, 2013 11:17:12 AM UTC-8, Deacon Patrick wrote: A medium brimmed Tilley meets all but 2. http://www.tilley.com/The-T5MO-Tilley-Organic-AIRFLO-Hat.aspx is my personal preference. With abandon, Patrick On Tuesday, December 3, 2013 12:11:29 PM UTC-7, Patrick Moore wrote: Best in reference to the following criteria, in order of their importance to ME: 1. Stay on very large head with a lot of thick hair. (Riv caps don't stay on well -- too shallow? When I had a pony tail, I'd add a loop behind to go under the tail, this acting as an anchor. I no longer have a 'tail, but I do have long hair.) 2. Short bill. (I do fold the bills to shorten them, but would prefer not to. My customs have 4 cm bills, which is about right. Riv caps have bills way too long.) 3. Well made -- thickish, absorbent fabric, good elastic, good seams. (RIv is good here.) 4. Sightly (as opposed to unsightly); defined as a happy mean between excessively tweedish and excessively roady-ish (ancient team logos and colors are great; Molteni outstanding). (Riv is good here, but would prefer more variety in logo.) 5. Not yuppie priced. (RIv good here.) I've used Rivs, customs (little package dot com) and Nashbar's retros (Molteni!) as well as Walz (their winter cap is great; not so much their summer ones -- don't stay on my head! The Nashbars are the best (for me) so far, but they are rather cheaply made. Anything giving 1 thru 3 is worth considering. Thanks. -- *RESUMES THAT GET YOU NOTICED!* Certified Resume Writer http://resumespecialties.com/index.html patric...@resumespecialties.com http://www.linkedin.com/in/patrickmooreresumespec/ Albuquerque, NM -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Best summer cycling caps?
Indeed, Patrick. I wear it in wooded areas and generally take it off for long descents. Though I've been amazed how well it stays on with the straps. In general, though It works great to shelter from sun, and in a given day the amount of time on long descents is fairly short, so I'm happy to get sun for it. Grin. Bill, I figured since 2 was a non-negotiable it would be DQed, but better to have choices beyond the scope that may work in unexpected ways. Also I interpret yuppy pricing on a Riv group to mean high price/low value/high fashion. High(er) price, yes but Tilley is hardly the other two. Grin. With abandon, Patrick On Tuesday, December 3, 2013 12:11:29 PM UTC-7, Patrick Moore wrote: Best in reference to the following criteria, in order of their importance to ME: 1. Stay on very large head with a lot of thick hair. (Riv caps don't stay on well -- too shallow? When I had a pony tail, I'd add a loop behind to go under the tail, this acting as an anchor. I no longer have a 'tail, but I do have long hair.) 2. Short bill. (I do fold the bills to shorten them, but would prefer not to. My customs have 4 cm bills, which is about right. Riv caps have bills way too long.) 3. Well made -- thickish, absorbent fabric, good elastic, good seams. (RIv is good here.) 4. Sightly (as opposed to unsightly); defined as a happy mean between excessively tweedish and excessively roady-ish (ancient team logos and colors are great; Molteni outstanding). (Riv is good here, but would prefer more variety in logo.) 5. Not yuppie priced. (RIv good here.) I've used Rivs, customs (little package dot com) and Nashbar's retros (Molteni!) as well as Walz (their winter cap is great; not so much their summer ones -- don't stay on my head! The Nashbars are the best (for me) so far, but they are rather cheaply made. Anything giving 1 thru 3 is worth considering. Thanks. -- *RESUMES THAT GET YOU NOTICED!* Certified Resume Writer http://resumespecialties.com/index.html patric...@resumespecialties.com javascript: http://www.linkedin.com/in/patrickmooreresumespec/ Albuquerque, NM -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: Best summer cycling caps?
Not quite so; I don't mind using non-cycling-specific caps, though these are naturally good since they are designed for cycling. FWIW, the best *winter* caps I've found so far are faux-Peruvian Indian caps, knit of wool with ear flaps and under-chin ties. They look decent, too. The sole defect is lack of a short brim -- and that is indeed a sore lack, alas. Otherwise, warm, cover the ears without riding up, look good, low-priced Mine is rather like this one without the front flap. Made of recycled wool, but even the red acrylic one is great. [image: Inline image 1] On Tue, Dec 3, 2013 at 12:27 PM, Bill Lindsay tapebu...@gmail.com wrote: I fear the other Patrick will DQ that hat on the grounds of it not being a cycling cap, not having a short brim, and for being yuppie priced. :-( -- *RESUMES THAT GET YOU NOTICED!* Certified Resume Writer http://resumespecialties.com/index.html patrickmo...@resumespecialties.com http://www.linkedin.com/in/patrickmooreresumespec/ Albuquerque, NM -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Best summer cycling caps?
Pace has a huge selection , cotton, wool, coolmax . Browse all the collections, then buy from them or google it and find someone else who sells it. http://www.pacesportswear.com/2013technicalcollection.aspx Too bad Patagonia doesn't still make caps like this I have one and it will likely outlast me ... I bought it in the early 90's. http://i.ebayimg.com/t/Vintage-Patagonia-5-panel-mesh-Hat-Cap-Cycling-Medium-/00/s/MTA2NlgxNjAw/z/PPwAAOxyaqlSTH~e/$%28KGrHqNHJFIFIu!bbC3uBSTH+ePmUw~~60_57.JPG -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: Best summer cycling caps?
Thanks. How do they fit big heads and big hair? Well made? I can eyeball the brims. Patrick Moore, who almost lost his Nash at PDM cap just now in gusty ABQ, NM. Patrick Moore iPhone On Dec 3, 2013, at 1:48 PM, Garth garth...@gmail.com wrote: Pace has a huge selection , cotton, wool, coolmax . Browse all the collections, then buy from them or google it and find someone else who sells it. http://www.pacesportswear.com/2013technicalcollection.aspx Too bad Patagonia doesn't still make caps like this I have one and it will likely outlast me ... I bought it in the early 90's. http://i.ebayimg.com/t/Vintage-Patagonia-5-panel-mesh-Hat-Cap-Cycling-Medium-/00/s/MTA2NlgxNjAw/z/PPwAAOxyaqlSTH~e/$%28KGrHqNHJFIFIu!bbC3uBSTH+ePmUw~~60_57.JPG -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: Best summer cycling caps?
I'm a fan of the Kucharik wool caps, though they do carry cotton ones in many styles. Here are the plain ones: http://www.kucharikclothing.com/stock-color-cycling-cap-p-136.html?osCsid=7g4m3n4o1vc986dj4qc3m49dn6 Best, Lee On Tue, Dec 3, 2013 at 1:45 PM, Bertin753 bertin...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks. How do they fit big heads and big hair? Well made? I can eyeball the brims. Patrick Moore, who almost lost his Nash at PDM cap just now in gusty ABQ, NM. Patrick Moore iPhone On Dec 3, 2013, at 1:48 PM, Garth garth...@gmail.com wrote: Pace has a huge selection , cotton, wool, coolmax . Browse all the collections, then buy from them or google it and find someone else who sells it. http://www.pacesportswear.com/2013technicalcollection.aspx Too bad Patagonia doesn't still make caps like this I have one and it will likely outlast me ... I bought it in the early 90's. http://i.ebayimg.com/t/Vintage-Patagonia-5-panel-mesh-Hat-Cap-Cycling-Medium-/00/s/MTA2NlgxNjAw/z/PPwAAOxyaqlSTH~e/$%28KGrHqNHJFIFIu!bbC3uBSTH+ePmUw~~60_57.JPG -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: Best summer cycling caps?
I wear a full 8 in my fitted hats and have yet to find a cycling cap that fits my fat noggin. Any other fatheads out there have a recommendation? On Tue, Dec 3, 2013 at 5:01 PM, Lee Chae leec...@stanford.edu wrote: I'm a fan of the Kucharik wool caps, though they do carry cotton ones in many styles. Here are the plain ones: http://www.kucharikclothing.com/stock-color-cycling-cap-p-136.html?osCsid=7g4m3n4o1vc986dj4qc3m49dn6 Best, Lee On Tue, Dec 3, 2013 at 1:45 PM, Bertin753 bertin...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks. How do they fit big heads and big hair? Well made? I can eyeball the brims. Patrick Moore, who almost lost his Nash at PDM cap just now in gusty ABQ, NM. Patrick Moore iPhone On Dec 3, 2013, at 1:48 PM, Garth garth...@gmail.com wrote: Pace has a huge selection , cotton, wool, coolmax . Browse all the collections, then buy from them or google it and find someone else who sells it. http://www.pacesportswear.com/2013technicalcollection.aspx Too bad Patagonia doesn't still make caps like this I have one and it will likely outlast me ... I bought it in the early 90's. http://i.ebayimg.com/t/Vintage-Patagonia-5-panel-mesh-Hat-Cap-Cycling-Medium-/00/s/MTA2NlgxNjAw/z/PPwAAOxyaqlSTH~e/$%28KGrHqNHJFIFIu!bbC3uBSTH+ePmUw~~60_57.JPG -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: Best summer cycling caps?
Lee -- how do they fit a big head with a lot of hair? The price is certainly good! Thanks. On Tue, Dec 3, 2013 at 3:01 PM, Lee Chae leec...@stanford.edu wrote: I'm a fan of the Kucharik wool caps, though they do carry cotton ones in many styles. Here are the plain ones: http://www.kucharikclothing.com/stock-color-cycling-cap-p-136.html?osCsid=7g4m3n4o1vc986dj4qc3m49dn6 Best, Lee On Tue, Dec 3, 2013 at 1:45 PM, Bertin753 bertin...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks. How do they fit big heads and big hair? Well made? I can eyeball the brims. Patrick Moore, who almost lost his Nash at PDM cap just now in gusty ABQ, NM. Patrick Moore iPhone On Dec 3, 2013, at 1:48 PM, Garth garth...@gmail.com wrote: Pace has a huge selection , cotton, wool, coolmax . Browse all the collections, then buy from them or google it and find someone else who sells it. http://www.pacesportswear.com/2013technicalcollection.aspx Too bad Patagonia doesn't still make caps like this I have one and it will likely outlast me ... I bought it in the early 90's. http://i.ebayimg.com/t/Vintage-Patagonia-5-panel-mesh-Hat-Cap-Cycling-Medium-/00/s/MTA2NlgxNjAw/z/PPwAAOxyaqlSTH~e/$%28KGrHqNHJFIFIu!bbC3uBSTH+ePmUw~~60_57.JPG -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- *RESUMES THAT GET YOU NOTICED!* Certified Resume Writer http://resumespecialties.com/index.html patrickmo...@resumespecialties.com http://www.linkedin.com/in/patrickmooreresumespec/ Albuquerque, NM -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Best summer cycling caps?
http://tifr.us/storage/post-images/Bicycle-Batman-__SQUARESPACE_CACHEVERSION=1304630851800.jpg oh, never mindcap... On Tuesday, December 3, 2013 1:11:29 PM UTC-6, Patrick Moore wrote: Best in reference to the following criteria, in order of their importance to ME: 1. Stay on very large head with a lot of thick hair. (Riv caps don't stay on well -- too shallow? When I had a pony tail, I'd add a loop behind to go under the tail, this acting as an anchor. I no longer have a 'tail, but I do have long hair.) 2. Short bill. (I do fold the bills to shorten them, but would prefer not to. My customs have 4 cm bills, which is about right. Riv caps have bills way too long.) 3. Well made -- thickish, absorbent fabric, good elastic, good seams. (RIv is good here.) 4. Sightly (as opposed to unsightly); defined as a happy mean between excessively tweedish and excessively roady-ish (ancient team logos and colors are great; Molteni outstanding). (Riv is good here, but would prefer more variety in logo.) 5. Not yuppie priced. (RIv good here.) I've used Rivs, customs (little package dot com) and Nashbar's retros (Molteni!) as well as Walz (their winter cap is great; not so much their summer ones -- don't stay on my head! The Nashbars are the best (for me) so far, but they are rather cheaply made. Anything giving 1 thru 3 is worth considering. Thanks. -- *RESUMES THAT GET YOU NOTICED!* Certified Resume Writer http://resumespecialties.com/index.html patric...@resumespecialties.com javascript: http://www.linkedin.com/in/patrickmooreresumespec/ Albuquerque, NM -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.