[RBW] Re: Big guy advice

2010-07-28 Thread Mike
On Jul 27, 7:00 pm, JB baile...@voyager.net wrote:
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You should be fine. I'm 6', weigh around 180 to 190 depending on time
of year and ride a 63cm Hilsen with no significant flex issues. I've
used my bike with rack, rear panniers, and big HB back and it was
fine. Yeah, a tad flexy but nothing to worry about. I think you'll be
fine on 61 Hilsen. Use bigger tires like a Schwalbe Marathon Supreme
700x40. Also, speak with the folks at Rivendell and see what they
suggest.

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[RBW] Re: Big guy advice

2010-07-28 Thread Thomas Lynn Skean
+1 for The Country Bike Shop! I drove from Chicago one weekend and
visited there in order to check out the Hillborne (one of which I now
own). Very accommodating folks; we chatted quite a bit and they let me
pedal on the Hillborne on a trainer to verify the fit. They were
actually encouraging me to take it for a ride but I was too nervous to
do that.

Dick and I had talked on the phone beforehand. They set up the bike
ahead of time with B17 and 35mm tires and dirt drop stem and Albatross
bars so that the actual fit (i. e. PBH measurement and saddle height
adjustment) and test took 10-20 minutes. But Dick and his father are
such pleasant folks and so enthusiastic and knowledgable about the
bikes and gear they sell that my friend and I stayed and just
generally geeked out on bikes/bags/tires/RBW for maybe a couple hours
in their delightful shop. (PBH of 90, saddle height of 80, and the Sam
60cm fits *perfectly* with 35-38 tires.)

When you pick up your bike, don't ignore the bags!

Yours,
Thomas Lynn Skean

On Jul 27, 9:18 pm, JB baile...@voyager.net wrote:
 Thanks all,

 I'm buying the bike at The Country Bike Shop in Ohio -- they're a
 Rivendell dealer.  The owner (Dick) was great to work with and spent
 all day with me getting the right fit.  I tried a number of sizes of
 Hillbourns and Hilsens.  The second I got on the 61cm Hilsen I knew I
 had the right fit.  Between riding my own bike to the shop and riding
 different Rivendell's, I put on 93 km that day and had a good long try
 on all the bikes.  However, there are no (zero, none, nada)  hills in
 that part of Ohio and he had no Atlantis to try.  I have been in
 contact with Rivendell (Mark) and it seemed that either bike would be
 OK.  The frame is already in but it'll be about 3 weeks before the
 build is done.  Just wanted some reassurance from the masses.

 Thanks, it doesn't sound as though I really have any worries.

 John

 On Jul 27, 9:47 pm, Larry Powers lapower...@hotmail.com wrote:



  I have a Rambouillet and an Atlantis. The Atlantis is a work horse that can 
  haul a load and is fun to ride unloaded.  I have ridden 200k brevets on it 
  when my Rambouillet was out of commission.  The Rambouillet feels more 
  lively when unloaded and will always be my first choice for unloaded 
  riding.  I have even done Inn to Inn touring on the Rambouillet bike.  I 
  currently weigh 210, have been as high as 230 and as low as 200.  I have 
  not been disappointed by this bike.

  It is my understanding that the Hilsen tubing falls in between the 
  Rambouillet and the Atlantis.  I think given your description this is the 
  bike you are looking for.  I will offer this, if you aren't sure call 
  Rivendell.  I have found that they are very good at matching bike and rider 
  and they won't steer you wrong.

  Larry Powers

  Get a bicycle.  You will not regret it if you live. - Mark Twain

   Date: Tue, 27 Jul 2010 14:00:09 -0700
   Subject: [RBW] Big guy advice
   From: baile...@voyager.net
   To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com

   I've ordered an A. Homer Hilsen.  I've got a bit of a worry.  At 220
   lbs. I presently ride a Trek FX 7.3.  Anytime I stand up to power up a
   hill, I get flex in the lower seat post and the chain touches the
   deraileur.  It's a minor annoyance, but I've wondered if the A. Homer
   Hilsen will be adequately stiff for me.  I don't plan on any loaded
   touring with the bike, just all day long trips on paved roads with a
   few dirt roads thrown into the mix.  I've lost a considerable amount
   of weight since I started riding a year ago, so I'm not likely to lose
   much more.

   I really like the A. Homer, but would switch to the Atlantis if really
   necessary.  I'm hoping some out there in Riv land are big guys that
   have been riding the Hilsen can give me their opinion.

   Thanks,

   John

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[RBW] Re: Big guy advice

2010-07-28 Thread JB
I got to the shop at 9:00 (Rode my Bianchi 12 km. from the
campground).  With the exception of 1.5 hours during lucnch (my lunch,
as Dick stayed and changed to a different handle bar for me) Dick was
helping me fit till 4:00 P.M.  He even went on a couple of rides with
me to make small adjustments on the run.  This service has made The
Country Bike Shop my LBS (Even though I live 7 hours away!) and I've
bought tires and a Brooks from him since.  Can't wait to make another
visit on August 13th to pick up the bike.

John

On Jul 28, 10:15 am, Thomas Lynn Skean thomaslynnsk...@comcast.net
wrote:
 +1 for The Country Bike Shop! I drove from Chicago one weekend and
 visited there in order to check out the Hillborne (one of which I now
 own). Very accommodating folks; we chatted quite a bit and they let me
 pedal on the Hillborne on a trainer to verify the fit. They were
 actually encouraging me to take it for a ride but I was too nervous to
 do that.

 Dick and I had talked on the phone beforehand. They set up the bike
 ahead of time with B17 and 35mm tires and dirt drop stem and Albatross
 bars so that the actual fit (i. e. PBH measurement and saddle height
 adjustment) and test took 10-20 minutes. But Dick and his father are
 such pleasant folks and so enthusiastic and knowledgable about the
 bikes and gear they sell that my friend and I stayed and just
 generally geeked out on bikes/bags/tires/RBW for maybe a couple hours
 in their delightful shop. (PBH of 90, saddle height of 80, and the Sam
 60cm fits *perfectly* with 35-38 tires.)

 When you pick up your bike, don't ignore the bags!

 Yours,
 Thomas Lynn Skean

 On Jul 27, 9:18 pm, JB baile...@voyager.net wrote:

  Thanks all,

  I'm buying the bike at The Country Bike Shop in Ohio -- they're a
  Rivendell dealer.  The owner (Dick) was great to work with and spent
  all day with me getting the right fit.  I tried a number of sizes of
  Hillbourns and Hilsens.  The second I got on the 61cm Hilsen I knew I
  had the right fit.  Between riding my own bike to the shop and riding
  different Rivendell's, I put on 93 km that day and had a good long try
  on all the bikes.  However, there are no (zero, none, nada)  hills in
  that part of Ohio and he had no Atlantis to try.  I have been in
  contact with Rivendell (Mark) and it seemed that either bike would be
  OK.  The frame is already in but it'll be about 3 weeks before the
  build is done.  Just wanted some reassurance from the masses.

  Thanks, it doesn't sound as though I really have any worries.

  John

  On Jul 27, 9:47 pm, Larry Powers lapower...@hotmail.com wrote:

   I have a Rambouillet and an Atlantis. The Atlantis is a work horse that 
   can haul a load and is fun to ride unloaded.  I have ridden 200k brevets 
   on it when my Rambouillet was out of commission.  The Rambouillet feels 
   more lively when unloaded and will always be my first choice for unloaded 
   riding.  I have even done Inn to Inn touring on the Rambouillet bike.  I 
   currently weigh 210, have been as high as 230 and as low as 200.  I have 
   not been disappointed by this bike.

   It is my understanding that the Hilsen tubing falls in between the 
   Rambouillet and the Atlantis.  I think given your description this is the 
   bike you are looking for.  I will offer this, if you aren't sure call 
   Rivendell.  I have found that they are very good at matching bike and 
   rider and they won't steer you wrong.

   Larry Powers

   Get a bicycle.  You will not regret it if you live. - Mark Twain

Date: Tue, 27 Jul 2010 14:00:09 -0700
Subject: [RBW] Big guy advice
From: baile...@voyager.net
To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com

I've ordered an A. Homer Hilsen.  I've got a bit of a worry.  At 220
lbs. I presently ride a Trek FX 7.3.  Anytime I stand up to power up a
hill, I get flex in the lower seat post and the chain touches the
deraileur.  It's a minor annoyance, but I've wondered if the A. Homer
Hilsen will be adequately stiff for me.  I don't plan on any loaded
touring with the bike, just all day long trips on paved roads with a
few dirt roads thrown into the mix.  I've lost a considerable amount
of weight since I started riding a year ago, so I'm not likely to lose
much more.

I really like the A. Homer, but would switch to the Atlantis if really
necessary.  I'm hoping some out there in Riv land are big guys that
have been riding the Hilsen can give me their opinion.

Thanks,

John

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[RBW] Re: Big guy advice

2010-07-27 Thread EricP
Don't have a Hilsen, but have a Sam Hillborne.  Also 220 (this year.
Last year was about 240 when the bike arrived.)  No problems at all.

Now, the SH is a bit stouter built than the AHH.  So there may be a
slight difference.  However, I don't think you'll have a problem.

If you purchased through Rivendell and Grant and/or Keven gave to okay
(or kave the gokay) then it should be good.

Eric Platt
St. Paul, MN

On Jul 27, 4:00 pm, JB baile...@voyager.net wrote:
 I've ordered an A. Homer Hilsen.  I've got a bit of a worry.  At 220
 lbs. I presently ride a Trek FX 7.3.  Anytime I stand up to power up a
 hill, I get flex in the lower seat post and the chain touches the
 deraileur.  It's a minor annoyance, but I've wondered if the A. Homer
 Hilsen will be adequately stiff for me.  I don't plan on any loaded
 touring with the bike, just all day long trips on paved roads with a
 few dirt roads thrown into the mix.  I've lost a considerable amount
 of weight since I started riding a year ago, so I'm not likely to lose
 much more.

 I really like the A. Homer, but would switch to the Atlantis if really
 necessary.  I'm hoping some out there in Riv land are big guys that
 have been riding the Hilsen can give me their opinion.

 Thanks,

 John

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[RBW] Re: Big guy advice

2010-07-27 Thread JB
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On Jul 27, 8:59 pm, CycloFiend cyclofi...@earthlink.net wrote:
 on 7/27/10 2:00 PM, JB at baile...@voyager.net wrote:

  I've ordered an A. Homer Hilsen.  I've got a bit of a worry.  At 220
  lbs. I presently ride a Trek FX 7.3.  Anytime I stand up to power up a
  hill, I get flex in the lower seat post and the chain touches the
  deraileur.  It's a minor annoyance, but I've wondered if the A. Homer
  Hilsen will be adequately stiff for me.  I don't plan on any loaded
  touring with the bike, just all day long trips on paved roads with a
  few dirt roads thrown into the mix.  I've lost a considerable amount
  of weight since I started riding a year ago, so I'm not likely to lose
  much more.

  I really like the A. Homer, but would switch to the Atlantis if really
  necessary.  I'm hoping some out there in Riv land are big guys that
  have been riding the Hilsen can give me their opinion.

 What size frame are you getting?

 - J

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[RBW] Re: Big guy advice

2010-07-27 Thread JB
Thanks all,

I'm buying the bike at The Country Bike Shop in Ohio -- they're a
Rivendell dealer.  The owner (Dick) was great to work with and spent
all day with me getting the right fit.  I tried a number of sizes of
Hillbourns and Hilsens.  The second I got on the 61cm Hilsen I knew I
had the right fit.  Between riding my own bike to the shop and riding
different Rivendell's, I put on 93 km that day and had a good long try
on all the bikes.  However, there are no (zero, none, nada)  hills in
that part of Ohio and he had no Atlantis to try.  I have been in
contact with Rivendell (Mark) and it seemed that either bike would be
OK.  The frame is already in but it'll be about 3 weeks before the
build is done.  Just wanted some reassurance from the masses.

Thanks, it doesn't sound as though I really have any worries.

John

On Jul 27, 9:47 pm, Larry Powers lapower...@hotmail.com wrote:
 I have a Rambouillet and an Atlantis. The Atlantis is a work horse that can 
 haul a load and is fun to ride unloaded.  I have ridden 200k brevets on it 
 when my Rambouillet was out of commission.  The Rambouillet feels more lively 
 when unloaded and will always be my first choice for unloaded riding.  I have 
 even done Inn to Inn touring on the Rambouillet bike.  I currently weigh 210, 
 have been as high as 230 and as low as 200.  I have not been disappointed by 
 this bike.

 It is my understanding that the Hilsen tubing falls in between the 
 Rambouillet and the Atlantis.  I think given your description this is the 
 bike you are looking for.  I will offer this, if you aren't sure call 
 Rivendell.  I have found that they are very good at matching bike and rider 
 and they won't steer you wrong.

 Larry Powers

 Get a bicycle.  You will not regret it if you live. - Mark Twain



  Date: Tue, 27 Jul 2010 14:00:09 -0700
  Subject: [RBW] Big guy advice
  From: baile...@voyager.net
  To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com

  I've ordered an A. Homer Hilsen.  I've got a bit of a worry.  At 220
  lbs. I presently ride a Trek FX 7.3.  Anytime I stand up to power up a
  hill, I get flex in the lower seat post and the chain touches the
  deraileur.  It's a minor annoyance, but I've wondered if the A. Homer
  Hilsen will be adequately stiff for me.  I don't plan on any loaded
  touring with the bike, just all day long trips on paved roads with a
  few dirt roads thrown into the mix.  I've lost a considerable amount
  of weight since I started riding a year ago, so I'm not likely to lose
  much more.

  I really like the A. Homer, but would switch to the Atlantis if really
  necessary.  I'm hoping some out there in Riv land are big guys that
  have been riding the Hilsen can give me their opinion.

  Thanks,

  John

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[RBW] Re: Big guy advice

2010-07-27 Thread Dave Craig
Jim's question is key. Frame size matters. Given the same tubing, big
frames flex more than smaller ones. Riv has gone to double TT's to add
stiffness to the larger frame sizes.

I weigh about 210 and I'm pretty athletic. When I stand and pedal
aggressively, I sometimes flex my 64cm Atlantis in the same manner you
describe. My 60cm Bombadil doesn't have the same degree of flex even
under off road conditions because it's smaller, has double TT's and
thicker tubing overall.

Dave



On Jul 27, 5:59 pm, CycloFiend cyclofi...@earthlink.net wrote:
 on 7/27/10 2:00 PM, JB at baile...@voyager.net wrote:

  I've ordered an A. Homer Hilsen.  I've got a bit of a worry.  At 220
  lbs. I presently ride a Trek FX 7.3.  Anytime I stand up to power up a
  hill, I get flex in the lower seat post and the chain touches the
  deraileur.  It's a minor annoyance, but I've wondered if the A. Homer
  Hilsen will be adequately stiff for me.  I don't plan on any loaded
  touring with the bike, just all day long trips on paved roads with a
  few dirt roads thrown into the mix.  I've lost a considerable amount
  of weight since I started riding a year ago, so I'm not likely to lose
  much more.

  I really like the A. Homer, but would switch to the Atlantis if really
  necessary.  I'm hoping some out there in Riv land are big guys that
  have been riding the Hilsen can give me their opinion.

 What size frame are you getting?

 - J

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