[RBW] Re: Clems have shipped!

[Deacon Patrick]

New bike day times two Clementines! Comments: "I feel like I'm on a smooth 
horse and can leap into the clouds!" "I don't even feel or hear the 
shifting it's so smooth -- I just feel the difference in the pedals." 
"Smoother and lighter!" "It just goes where I want it to!"

We'd sized up for them so they can grow into them and have these as their 
lifetime bike if they wish (they are 12 and 14). They definitely fit just 
fine with lots of room to grow into!

Colors: the black is beautiful and the turquoise stunning.
https://www.flickr.com/photos/32311885@N07/22712606132/in/dateposted-public/

With abandon,
Patrick

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[RBW] Re: Clems have shipped!

[LeahFoy]

How SWEET this is! Do we get to see more pictures of the lassies and their new 
bikes? Lovely!

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[RBW] Re: Clems have shipped!

[dougP]

Deacon:

You are taking really good care of your children.  Those are truly bikes 
they can grow into for life.  I'll bet in 30 years they're going to say 
"Yea, my dad got that for me when I was a kid, & it's always been just such 
a good bike."  

My wife rides an Atlantis.  When we were at Rivendell in the spring, she 
mosied off on a Clementine, & came back with the comment "Hey, this is 
kinda cool." No, we didn't take it home but still, a pretty good 
endorsement.  

dougP

On Monday, November 2, 2015 at 7:04:03 PM UTC-8, KC wrote:
>
> 2 lucky lassies.  You can sense their joy in the pictures.  And I applaud 
> you for keeping their faces off the internet. 
>
>
> On Monday, November 2, 2015 at 6:59:06 PM UTC-8, Deacon Patrick wrote:
>
>> Thank you, Leah. Likely not many photos of the lassies, as we keep their 
>> faces off the internet. Possibly more of the bikes though.
>>
>> With abandon,
>> Patrick
>>
>> On Monday, November 2, 2015 at 6:36:55 PM UTC-7, LeahFoy wrote:
>>>
>>> How SWEET this is! Do we get to see more pictures of the lassies and 
>>> their new bikes? Lovely!
>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: Clems have shipped!

[Deacon Patrick]

Thank you, Leah. Likely not many photos of the lassies, as we keep their 
faces off the internet. Possibly more of the bikes though.

With abandon,
Patrick

On Monday, November 2, 2015 at 6:36:55 PM UTC-7, LeahFoy wrote:
>
> How SWEET this is! Do we get to see more pictures of the lassies and their 
> new bikes? Lovely!

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[RBW] Re: Clems have shipped!

[KC]

2 lucky lassies.  You can sense their joy in the pictures.  And I applaud 
you for keeping their faces off the internet. 


On Monday, November 2, 2015 at 6:59:06 PM UTC-8, Deacon Patrick wrote:

> Thank you, Leah. Likely not many photos of the lassies, as we keep their 
> faces off the internet. Possibly more of the bikes though.
>
> With abandon,
> Patrick
>
> On Monday, November 2, 2015 at 6:36:55 PM UTC-7, LeahFoy wrote:
>>
>> How SWEET this is! Do we get to see more pictures of the lassies and 
>> their new bikes? Lovely!
>
>

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[RBW] Re: Clems have shipped!

[Bob Ehrenbeck]

Here is a link to my pictures from my visits to BB and RBW HQ last 
weekend. 

https://www.flickr.com/photos/30490050@N04/albums/72157658301010553

The Clems and Clementines were lined up too closely together to get good 
photos of them, so I just took a couple of shots of the place and some 
components that interested me, as I'm still collecting parts for my build. 
(For instance, the Silver cranksets look pretty good (although they're only 
available on the complete bikes right now), and the Bosco Bulmoose bars 
intrigued me; I think I'll be going with them.) But there are some 
Clems/Clementines in the photos!

Bob

On Thursday, October 29, 2015 at 10:05:18 PM UTC-4, Bob Ehrenbeck wrote:
>
> Hey Tim,
>
> I do have some more Clem photos; I hope to put them up on my Flickr soon.
>
> Bob
>
> On Wednesday, October 28, 2015 at 11:41:17 PM UTC-4, Tim Wood wrote:
>>
>> Look at that grey!! Can't wait. I'm sure I'm biased but the 59 Clem's 
>> look proportionately just right. Do you have any more Clem photos from your 
>> visit?
>
>

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[RBW] Re: Clems have shipped!

[Joe Bernard]

I love that Cycletruck. One of these days I'm going to grab one of those frames 
and move my Mini Velo parts to it.

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Re: [RBW] Re: Clems have shipped!

[Bill Lindsay]

It's probably just that the current batch of Clem owners aren't self-absorbed 
show offs like the rest of us. They are all out there smiling and riding.  

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Re: [RBW] Re: Clems have shipped!

[James Warren]

Is it just me, or is the Clem the least photographed new Riv model ever? (This 
doesn't count prototypes.)

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Re: [RBW] Re: Clems have shipped!

[Edwin W]

James,

I don't think many people have them yet! I know I don't. 

Edwin

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RE: [RBW] Re: Clems have shipped!

[Tony DeFilippo]

My wife's 52" orange Clementine shipped, reportedly will arrive next Wednesday. 
 Can't wait, her motobecane mirage and mb-3 are both giving up their best parts 
to build it up... First brand new bike in our household.

I liked the original orange from the prototypes better, it was closer to her 
college, Tennessee's orange.  But I'm sure it will grow on her.  Our it'll get 
recoated eventually.  I must have missed the warning that their would ends up 
being variability in the colors.

Her build is going to start off pretty vanilla;  

Albatross cockpit, single Paul thumbie w/ silver shifter, cork grips
1x8 gearing
Fatty rumpkin tires
Shimano cantis
Canti mounted mini front rack with Wald medium

I do have some Paul levers and aWI Eno crank that may find their way onto the 
Tine but I'm still debating it. I also need to add a rear rack.

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Re: [RBW] Re: Clems have shipped!

['Mark in Beacon' via RBW Owners Bunch]

Nice to hear people's build plans. For me, I am happy that I don't have to 
think about a thing. Aside from adding the necessary accessories, I plan to 
leave it stock (maybe tires at some point. Partly for fun to see the 
difference). I guess I'm a bit tired of builds right now, fun as they can 
be. In fact, that is a good part of the appeal for me with this particular 
bike. Just take it out of the box and go! In fact if they offered a version 
with fenders and dyno light system I would have gladly paid that premium in 
a second. Racks, too, except for now it will have a Burley Moose Rack for 
the Piccolo.

On Friday, October 30, 2015 at 7:22:46 AM UTC-4, Tony DeFilippo wrote:
>
> My wife's 52" orange Clementine shipped, reportedly will arrive next 
> Wednesday.  Can't wait, her motobecane mirage and mb-3 are both giving up 
> their best parts to build it up... First brand new bike in our household.
>
> I liked the original orange from the prototypes better, it was closer to 
> her college, Tennessee's orange.  But I'm sure it will grow on her.  Our 
> it'll get recoated eventually.  I must have missed the warning that their 
> would ends up being variability in the colors.
>
> Her build is going to start off pretty vanilla;  
>
> Albatross cockpit, single Paul thumbie w/ silver shifter, cork grips
> 1x8 gearing
> Fatty rumpkin tires
> Shimano cantis
> Canti mounted mini front rack with Wald medium
>
> I do have some Paul levers and aWI Eno crank that may find their way onto 
> the Tine but I'm still debating it. I also need to add a rear rack.
>
>

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[RBW] Re: Clems have shipped!

['Mark in Beacon' via RBW Owners Bunch]

It's definitely a deeper, richer orange, more like the original Ram. I like 
it better than the prototype orange, which was a bit too candy/'Public bike 
for my taste. Anyway, a black 52cm Clementine for me. I'm bad when I have 
to choose a color, even from a limited palette. And how much can the black 
change from the proto?;^) 

On Thursday, October 29, 2015 at 11:02:13 AM UTC-4, Montclair BobbyB wrote:
>
> Thanks Bob.  From the photo, (to be honest) the orange is disappointing 
> (compared to the prototype orange, which was much brighter).
>

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[RBW] Re: Clems have shipped!

[Montclair BobbyB]

Thanks Bob.  From the photo, (to be honest) the orange is disappointing 
(compared to the prototype orange, which was much brighter) I will have 
to reserve judgment until I see it in person, but thinking my build parts 
that I (pre-)painted orange (to hopefully match the proto orange) will 
likely need to be repainted.  I'll find out soon enough...  my Clementine 
has shipped

BB


On Wednesday, October 28, 2015 at 6:10:11 PM UTC-4, Bob Ehrenbeck wrote:
>
> While I don't have a photo of a 59cm Clementine, I do have a photo of an 
> orange one!
>
> I just happened to be visiting the Bay Area (from NJ) this past weekend, 
> so last Saturday I headed over to Walnut Creek to visit both RBW locations 
> -- it was my first visit to either shop, and I had very nice chats with 
> Vince at BB and Harry at RBWHQ and got to see lots of bikes and gear. As 
> someone who had pre-ordered a grey 52-cm Clem frame, I was hoping to see at 
> least some frames there, so I was very happy to see three grey built-up 
> Clems -- one for each size! A green Clem was also there, as well as orange 
> and teal Clementines. They all look great -- in fact, my wife is now 
> interested in a Clementine!
>
> Here's a photo:
>
> Bob E
>
>
>
>
> On Wednesday, October 28, 2015 at 3:35:05 PM UTC-4, Montclair BobbyB wrote:
>>
>> ANYONE have a photo of a 59cm Clementine with fat 700c tires, or a 
>> confirmation photo of the (new) orange color.  I suppose I could always 
>> just wait for mine to arrive but I don't want to :)
>>
>> BB
>>
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: Clems have shipped!

[BSWP]

Thanks, Bill. I guess everybody in the biz must know that about the Rinko 
headsets! Sounds like a good innovation, to use cartridge bearings, and I 
guess it's fair to assume they're pre-greased.

- Andrew "why am I always the last to know?", Berkeley

On Wednesday, October 28, 2015 at 2:43:04 PM UTC-7, Bill Lindsay wrote:
>
> Those rinko headsets have a cartridge bearing that is sitting inside the 
> cups, similar, but not identical to Shimano.  With Shimanos, the cartridge 
> falls right out.  With 'normal' ball bearing headsets there's a ring with 
> ball bearings that you slather with grease and install.  The headset on 
> your Clem will have the cartridge bearings in there already.  That's why 
> there seemed to be a missing step.  
>
>
>
> On Wednesday, October 28, 2015 at 1:49:19 PM UTC-7, Wayne Naha wrote:
>>
>> I noticed the same thing.  The bearing install was definitely skipped 
>> over.
>>
>> On Wednesday, October 28, 2015 at 4:19:09 PM UTC-4, BSWP wrote:
>>>
>>> Hmmm... watching the video, I wonder, how did the fork bearings get in 
>>> there? They came already packed in grease, in the cups, in the frame?
>>>
>>> - Andrew, Berkeley
>>>



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Re: [RBW] Re: Clems have shipped!

[Zed Martinez]

If you haven't encountered rinko before, it's a pretty cool thing. Doubt 
it'll ever be quite so useful in the US, but heck, I had still planned to 
upgrade to a rinko headset on my Clem anyway, so this was perfect. The 
basic idea is to make a bike that can quickly be broken down to fit in a 
special bag to carry on the trains. The headset uses semi-sealed bearings 
so you can take the whole fork out for that process without losing them or 
having to spend forever at the end readjusting it. There's a lot about it 
online, but a decent overview of the practice if not this specific style of 
headset is this one from 
BQ: http://www.bikequarterly.com/images/BQ_rinko.pdf

On Thursday, October 29, 2015 at 12:16:02 PM UTC-4, BSWP wrote:
>
> Thanks, Bill. I guess everybody in the biz must know that about the Rinko 
> headsets! Sounds like a good innovation, to use cartridge bearings, and I 
> guess it's fair to assume they're pre-greased.
>
> - Andrew "why am I always the last to know?", Berkeley
>
> On Wednesday, October 28, 2015 at 2:43:04 PM UTC-7, Bill Lindsay wrote:
>>
>> Those rinko headsets have a cartridge bearing that is sitting inside the 
>> cups, similar, but not identical to Shimano.  With Shimanos, the cartridge 
>> falls right out.  With 'normal' ball bearing headsets there's a ring with 
>> ball bearings that you slather with grease and install.  The headset on 
>> your Clem will have the cartridge bearings in there already.  That's why 
>> there seemed to be a missing step.  
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wednesday, October 28, 2015 at 1:49:19 PM UTC-7, Wayne Naha wrote:
>>>
>>> I noticed the same thing.  The bearing install was definitely skipped 
>>> over.
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, October 28, 2015 at 4:19:09 PM UTC-4, BSWP wrote:

 Hmmm... watching the video, I wonder, how did the fork bearings get in 
 there? They came already packed in grease, in the cups, in the frame?

 - Andrew, Berkeley

>
>

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RE: [RBW] Re: Clems have shipped!

[El Sapo]

That should be a great looking bike. Tape or grips for the handlebars?

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[RBW] Re: Clems have shipped!

[El Sapo]

Mark, my PBH is 86. I ride 23" mountain bikes. I prefer riding a larger bike. 
The downside being That they have a 180 crank. I did the Sheldon Brown crank 
calc once and it came up 172.5. I think that's what is on my medium Clem. So I 
set the seat at 28" like my other bikes, and that was too low. Moved it up and 
that somehow lowered me into the bike. I've had a custom fit bike, and I'd 
totally forgotten how that felt until I got this one dialed in. It's my first 
new bike in 30 years. I think it's going to be a classic. I can't wait to see 
some pictures, better pictures, my photography is weak.

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[RBW] Re: Clems have shipped!

[Bob Ehrenbeck]

Hey Tim,

I do have some more Clem photos; I hope to put them up on my Flickr soon.

Bob

On Wednesday, October 28, 2015 at 11:41:17 PM UTC-4, Tim Wood wrote:
>
> Look at that grey!! Can't wait. I'm sure I'm biased but the 59 Clem's look 
> proportionately just right. Do you have any more Clem photos from your 
> visit?

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[RBW] Re: Clems have shipped!

[Zed Martinez]

Bob, please do! I need something to get me through the long weekend waiting 
on mine. Pictures always help.

On Thursday, October 29, 2015 at 10:05:18 PM UTC-4, Bob Ehrenbeck wrote:
>
> Hey Tim,
>
> I do have some more Clem photos; I hope to put them up on my Flickr soon.
>
> Bob
>
> On Wednesday, October 28, 2015 at 11:41:17 PM UTC-4, Tim Wood wrote:
>>
>> Look at that grey!! Can't wait. I'm sure I'm biased but the 59 Clem's 
>> look proportionately just right. Do you have any more Clem photos from your 
>> visit?
>
>

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[RBW] Re: Clems have shipped!

[Tim Wood]

Thanks Bob!  Lemme know when they are up and a link to your Flickr account. 
Cheers. 

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[RBW] Re: Clems have shipped!

['Mark in Beacon' via RBW Owners Bunch]

Grips: I think they weren't, then they were, then they reposted something 
that included that they weren't. Anyway, I will probably keep them stock, 
but the Rustines from VO are very nice, good looks, good ergo feel, good 
grip. I bought the white and the natural rubber. The white get dirty of 
course but that's okay. Easy to clean with Simple Green if you like.

On Monday, October 26, 2015 at 12:00:47 PM UTC-4, Wayne Naha wrote:
>
> I believe that grips are included with the Clems.  Riv decided to include 
> them at some point, it's in the Blug.  Those rubber grips look good, 
> though.  Is that kickstand seen on El Sapo's Clem included?  I don't recall 
> reading about that anywhere.
>
> On Monday, October 26, 2015 at 9:37:09 AM UTC-4, jandrews_nyc wrote:
>>
>> Do we know what is NOT coming with the complete bike?
>> I think I remember reading that saddle and pedals are included but grips 
>> aren't?
>> Does anyone know for sure?
>> I have a Med 'tine on the way
>> If grips aren't installed, I'm thinking these natural rubber grips from 
>> V.O. would do the trick
>>
>> http://store.velo-orange.com/index.php/accessories/leather-goods-handlebar-grips/constructeur-rubber-grip.html
>>
>

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RE: [RBW] Re: Clems have shipped!

[Edwin W]

I am building mine as a first 26 inch size bike as my boys grow into that size. 
The first one 9 years old) will get it as soon as I get it built up, assuming 
he can fit!
Cockpit: dirt drop stem and swept back bars so that he can reach. Cotton grips. 
Shifting: simple thumbie for a 1x8 with Altus derailer. 
Crank: 165mm, 36t and a chainguard. 
Cassette: shimano 11-30
Wheels: basic wheels from Taylor wheels. Thank you strong dollar. Basic shimano 
Dynamo hub up front. 
Tires: Pasela 26x1.75 (the smallest I should go, said Riv, but I want to keep 
this bike small). 
Dynamo hub up front. 
Brakes Avid v brakes. 
Levers shimano mountain. 
Fenders: p55 sks
Lights: b and m lyt up front, topline plus on back
Racks: working on that. I have a pletscher for the rear and a Gamoh porter for 
the front, but might be too much. 

Looking forward to getting this thing and taking wy too long to build it 
up. 

Edwin

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[RBW] Re: Clems have shipped!

[Montclair BobbyB]

ANYONE have a photo of a 59cm Clementine with fat 700c tires, or a 
confirmation photo of the (new) orange color.  I suppose I could always 
just wait for mine to arrive but I don't want to :)

BB 

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> I just got an email from Riv informing me that my bike is on the way! 
>  W00t!
>

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RE: [RBW] Re: Clems have shipped!

[Allingham II, Thomas J]

Those Gamoh porters are very heavy -- might be a bit of a struggle for your 
boys. 

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From: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Edwin W
Sent: Wednesday, October 28, 2015 3:43 PM
To: RBW Owners Bunch
Subject: RE: [RBW] Re: Clems have shipped!

I am building mine as a first 26 inch size bike as my boys grow into that size. 
The first one 9 years old) will get it as soon as I get it built up, assuming 
he can fit!
Cockpit: dirt drop stem and swept back bars so that he can reach. Cotton grips. 
Shifting: simple thumbie for a 1x8 with Altus derailer. 
Crank: 165mm, 36t and a chainguard. 
Cassette: shimano 11-30
Wheels: basic wheels from Taylor wheels. Thank you strong dollar. Basic shimano 
Dynamo hub up front. 
Tires: Pasela 26x1.75 (the smallest I should go, said Riv, but I want to keep 
this bike small). 
Dynamo hub up front. 
Brakes Avid v brakes. 
Levers shimano mountain. 
Fenders: p55 sks
Lights: b and m lyt up front, topline plus on back
Racks: working on that. I have a pletscher for the rear and a Gamoh porter for 
the front, but might be too much. 

Looking forward to getting this thing and taking wy too long to build it 
up. 

Edwin

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[RBW] Re: Clems have shipped!

[Tim Wood]

Look at that grey!! Can't wait. I'm sure I'm biased but the 59 Clem's look 
proportionately just right. Do you have any more Clem photos from your visit?

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RE: [RBW] Re: Clems have shipped!

[Edwin W]

Pudge you are right about those Gamoh racks. That is why I took it off my Sam!
Maybe I'll pop one of those cheap little Nashbar front racks on, it is what he 
has on his 24" bike now. 

Edwin

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Re: [RBW] Re: Clems have shipped!

[Bill Lindsay]

Those rinko headsets have a cartridge bearing that is sitting inside the 
cups, similar, but not identical to Shimano.  With Shimanos, the cartridge 
falls right out.  With 'normal' ball bearing headsets there's a ring with 
ball bearings that you slather with grease and install.  The headset on 
your Clem will have the cartridge bearings in there already.  That's why 
there seemed to be a missing step.  



On Wednesday, October 28, 2015 at 1:49:19 PM UTC-7, Wayne Naha wrote:
>
> I noticed the same thing.  The bearing install was definitely skipped over.
>
> On Wednesday, October 28, 2015 at 4:19:09 PM UTC-4, BSWP wrote:
>>
>> Hmmm... watching the video, I wonder, how did the fork bearings get in 
>> there? They came already packed in grease, in the cups, in the frame?
>>
>> - Andrew, Berkeley
>>
>>>
>>>

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Re: [RBW] Re: Clems have shipped!

[BSWP]

Hmmm... watching the video, I wonder, how did the fork bearings get in 
there? They came already packed in grease, in the cups, in the frame?

- Andrew, Berkeley

On Monday, October 26, 2015 at 3:06:19 PM UTC-7, Edwin W wrote:
>
> Just posted on the Blug:
> http://rivbike.tumblr.com/
> "For anyone in the initial Clem preorder (framesets), we’re shipping them 
> out starting today. They look great. The earliest of adopters got an 
> unexpected treat of creamed fork crowns. They look real nice. Here’s a 
> phone video of how the rinko headset works. All you need is a big 
> adjustable wrench. "
> Supense is killing me...
>
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: Clems have shipped!

[Wayne Naha]

I noticed the same thing.  The bearing install was definitely skipped over.

On Wednesday, October 28, 2015 at 4:19:09 PM UTC-4, BSWP wrote:
>
> Hmmm... watching the video, I wonder, how did the fork bearings get in 
> there? They came already packed in grease, in the cups, in the frame?
>
> - Andrew, Berkeley
>
>>
>>

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Re: [RBW] Re: Clems have shipped!

[Ryan Fleming]

I bet  your oldest son won't let you take waay to long to build it upif 
he's anything like my kid was

On Wednesday, October 28, 2015 at 2:42:45 PM UTC-5, Edwin W wrote:
>
> I am building mine as a first 26 inch size bike as my boys grow into that 
> size. The first one 9 years old) will get it as soon as I get it built up, 
> assuming he can fit!
> Cockpit: dirt drop stem and swept back bars so that he can reach. Cotton 
> grips. 
> Shifting: simple thumbie for a 1x8 with Altus derailer. 
> Crank: 165mm, 36t and a chainguard. 
> Cassette: shimano 11-30
> Wheels: basic wheels from Taylor wheels. Thank you strong dollar. Basic 
> shimano Dynamo hub up front. 
> Tires: Pasela 26x1.75 (the smallest I should go, said Riv, but I want to 
> keep this bike small). 
> Dynamo hub up front. 
> Brakes Avid v brakes. 
> Levers shimano mountain. 
> Fenders: p55 sks
> Lights: b and m lyt up front, topline plus on back
> Racks: working on that. I have a pletscher for the rear and a Gamoh porter 
> for the front, but might be too much. 
>
> Looking forward to getting this thing and taking wy too long to build 
> it up. 
>
> Edwin
>
>

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RE: [RBW] Re: Clems have shipped!

[BenG]

Tom, I've been looking forward to seeing your build. Are you still thinking 
Henderson Schwinn?

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[RBW] Re: Clems have shipped!

[Zed Martinez]

Just got my own call and email from Riv, one 52cm green Clem frameset on 
its way to me, and a pile of parts waiting in my basement that couldn't be 
happier to hear it.

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> I just got an email from Riv informing me that my bike is on the way! 
>  W00t!
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RE: [RBW] Re: Clems have shipped!

[Allingham II, Thomas J]

I think it will be Bullmoose Boscos, 1 X 8, Compass Switchback Hill 48mm 650B 
tan sidewall tires, 2 1/2 inch Woody's compound curve fenders, Stronglight 49 
crank with a Bespoke chainring (with a vintage Dur-Alum chainguard if I can get 
it to play well with the crankset).  Haven't quite figured out the brakes yet 
-- I want to use Paul Neo-Retros, but I'm not sure I can make the cable routing 
work on the rear -- if not, I guess I'll put on Paul Moto-Lites; Paul Levers 
either way.  And a matching set of funky Electra saddle and grips -- gotta 
defer to the gift recipient's wishes!  

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Sent: Tuesday, October 27, 2015 4:20 PM
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Tom, I've been looking forward to seeing your build. Are you still thinking 
Henderson Schwinn?

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Re: [RBW] Re: Clems have shipped!

[David Banzer]

Edwin,
Thanks for that. They look nice.
To other frameset preorderers,
A seatpost is included, correct? I didn't happen to see one get pulled out 
of the box in that video. Not a biggie, just have everything else ready to 
go except that.
David
Chicago

On Monday, October 26, 2015 at 5:06:19 PM UTC-5, Edwin W wrote:
>
> Just posted on the Blug:
> http://rivbike.tumblr.com/
> "For anyone in the initial Clem preorder (framesets), we’re shipping them 
> out starting today. They look great. The earliest of adopters got an 
> unexpected treat of creamed fork crowns. They look real nice. Here’s a 
> phone video of how the rinko headset works. All you need is a big 
> adjustable wrench. "
> Supense is killing me...
>
> On Monday, October 26, 2015 at 5:02:33 PM UTC-5, Pudge wrote:
>>
>> Me, too – I'm wondering if the folks (like me) who are getting frames 
>> only are at the back of the shipping line.
>>
>>  
>>
>> *From:* rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com [mailto:rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com] 
>> *On Behalf Of *David Banzer
>> *Sent:* Monday, October 26, 2015 5:46 PM
>> *To:* RBW Owners Bunch
>> *Subject:* [RBW] Re: Clems have shipped!
>>
>>  
>>
>> Anybody else get confirmation that there Clem/entine has shipped? Getting 
>> antsy as the weather's still nice here and I'd like to get my frameset 
>> built up asap. I ordered on the day after the presale was announced, so I'd 
>> assume that I'd be one of the first to have mine shipped.
>> David
>> Chicago
>>
>> On Monday, October 26, 2015 at 4:44:32 PM UTC-5, David Banzer wrote:
>>
>> I believe it comes with tig-welded Bosco bullmoose bars - functionally 
>> the same as what Riv sells individually, except not fillet brazed for the 
>> very smooth joint.
>> David
>> Chicago
>>
>> On Monday, October 26, 2015 at 3:35:53 PM UTC-5, Reid wrote:
>>
>> It came with the bull moose bars, too? Interesting.
>>
>>  
>>
>> Reid
>>
>> On Monday, October 26, 2015 at 1:17:43 PM UTC-5, El Sapo wrote:
>>
>>  
>>
>> That's the way it comes, everything but the Brooks seat came with the 
>> bike. Grips and kickstand included. 
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RE: [RBW] Re: Clems have shipped!

[Allingham II, Thomas J]

Creamed fork crowns look very nice.  Can't wait!

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Sent: Monday, October 26, 2015 6:55 PM
To: RBW Owners Bunch
Subject: Re: [RBW] Re: Clems have shipped!

I think frame, fork, headset, bottom bracket AND seatpost are included. That is 
what I am banking on.

Edwin

On Monday, October 26, 2015 at 5:43:07 PM UTC-5, David Banzer wrote:
Edwin,
Thanks for that. They look nice.
To other frameset preorderers,
A seatpost is included, correct? I didn't happen to see one get pulled out of 
the box in that video. Not a biggie, just have everything else ready to go 
except that.
David
Chicago

On Monday, October 26, 2015 at 5:06:19 PM UTC-5, Edwin W wrote:
Just posted on the Blug:
http://rivbike.tumblr.com/
"For anyone in the initial Clem preorder (framesets), we’re shipping them out 
starting today. They look great. The earliest of adopters got an unexpected 
treat of creamed fork crowns. They look real nice. Here’s a phone video of how 
the rinko headset works. All you need is a big adjustable wrench. "
Supense is killing me...

On Monday, October 26, 2015 at 5:02:33 PM UTC-5, Pudge wrote:
Me, too – I'm wondering if the folks (like me) who are getting frames only are 
at the back of the shipping line.

From: rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com<mailto:rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com> 
[mailto:rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of David Banzer
Sent: Monday, October 26, 2015 5:46 PM
To: RBW Owners Bunch
Subject: [RBW] Re: Clems have shipped!

Anybody else get confirmation that there Clem/entine has shipped? Getting antsy 
as the weather's still nice here and I'd like to get my frameset built up asap. 
I ordered on the day after the presale was announced, so I'd assume that I'd be 
one of the first to have mine shipped.
David
Chicago

On Monday, October 26, 2015 at 4:44:32 PM UTC-5, David Banzer wrote:
I believe it comes with tig-welded Bosco bullmoose bars - functionally the same 
as what Riv sells individually, except not fillet brazed for the very smooth 
joint.
David
Chicago

On Monday, October 26, 2015 at 3:35:53 PM UTC-5, Reid wrote:
It came with the bull moose bars, too? Interesting.

Reid
On Monday, October 26, 2015 at 1:17:43 PM UTC-5, El Sapo wrote:

That's the way it comes, everything but the Brooks seat came with the bike. 
Grips and kickstand included.
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Re: [RBW] Re: Clems have shipped!

[Zed Martinez]

I called last week and asked and Kevin checked and said the headset, bottom 
bracket, and seat post were all still included. So, they should be.

On Monday, October 26, 2015 at 6:43:07 PM UTC-4, David Banzer wrote:
>
> Edwin,
> Thanks for that. They look nice.
> To other frameset preorderers,
> A seatpost is included, correct? I didn't happen to see one get pulled out 
> of the box in that video. Not a biggie, just have everything else ready to 
> go except that.
> David
> Chicago
>
> On Monday, October 26, 2015 at 5:06:19 PM UTC-5, Edwin W wrote:
>>
>> Just posted on the Blug:
>> http://rivbike.tumblr.com/
>> "For anyone in the initial Clem preorder (framesets), we’re shipping 
>> them out starting today. They look great. The earliest of adopters got an 
>> unexpected treat of creamed fork crowns. They look real nice. Here’s a 
>> phone video of how the rinko headset works. All you need is a big 
>> adjustable wrench. "
>> Supense is killing me...
>>
>> On Monday, October 26, 2015 at 5:02:33 PM UTC-5, Pudge wrote:
>>>
>>> Me, too – I'm wondering if the folks (like me) who are getting frames 
>>> only are at the back of the shipping line.
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>> *From:* rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com [mailto:
>>> rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *David Banzer
>>> *Sent:* Monday, October 26, 2015 5:46 PM
>>> *To:* RBW Owners Bunch
>>> *Subject:* [RBW] Re: Clems have shipped!
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>> Anybody else get confirmation that there Clem/entine has shipped? 
>>> Getting antsy as the weather's still nice here and I'd like to get my 
>>> frameset built up asap. I ordered on the day after the presale was 
>>> announced, so I'd assume that I'd be one of the first to have mine shipped.
>>> David
>>> Chicago
>>>
>>> On Monday, October 26, 2015 at 4:44:32 PM UTC-5, David Banzer wrote:
>>>
>>> I believe it comes with tig-welded Bosco bullmoose bars - functionally 
>>> the same as what Riv sells individually, except not fillet brazed for the 
>>> very smooth joint.
>>> David
>>> Chicago
>>>
>>> On Monday, October 26, 2015 at 3:35:53 PM UTC-5, Reid wrote:
>>>
>>> It came with the bull moose bars, too? Interesting.
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>> Reid
>>>
>>> On Monday, October 26, 2015 at 1:17:43 PM UTC-5, El Sapo wrote:
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>> That's the way it comes, everything but the Brooks seat came with the 
>>> bike. Grips and kickstand included. 
>>>
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[RBW] Re: Clems have shipped!

[David Banzer]

Anybody else get confirmation that there Clem/entine has shipped? Getting 
antsy as the weather's still nice here and I'd like to get my frameset 
built up asap. I ordered on the day after the presale was announced, so I'd 
assume that I'd be one of the first to have mine shipped.
David
Chicago

On Monday, October 26, 2015 at 4:44:32 PM UTC-5, David Banzer wrote:
>
> I believe it comes with tig-welded Bosco bullmoose bars - functionally the 
> same as what Riv sells individually, except not fillet brazed for the very 
> smooth joint.
> David
> Chicago
>
> On Monday, October 26, 2015 at 3:35:53 PM UTC-5, Reid wrote:
>>
>> It came with the bull moose bars, too? Interesting.
>>
>> Reid
>>
>> On Monday, October 26, 2015 at 1:17:43 PM UTC-5, El Sapo wrote:


 That's the way it comes, everything but the Brooks seat came with the 
 bike. Grips and kickstand included. 

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[RBW] Re: Clems have shipped!

[David Banzer]

I believe it comes with tig-welded Bosco bullmoose bars - functionally the 
same as what Riv sells individually, except not fillet brazed for the very 
smooth joint.
David
Chicago

On Monday, October 26, 2015 at 3:35:53 PM UTC-5, Reid wrote:
>
> It came with the bull moose bars, too? Interesting.
>
> Reid
>
> On Monday, October 26, 2015 at 1:17:43 PM UTC-5, El Sapo wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> That's the way it comes, everything but the Brooks seat came with the 
>>> bike. Grips and kickstand included. 
>>>
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[RBW] Re: Clems have shipped!

[Reid]

It came with the bull moose bars, too? Interesting.

Reid

On Monday, October 26, 2015 at 1:17:43 PM UTC-5, El Sapo wrote:
>>
>>
>> That's the way it comes, everything but the Brooks seat came with the 
>> bike. Grips and kickstand included. 
>>
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RE: [RBW] Re: Clems have shipped!

[Allingham II, Thomas J]

Me, too – I'm wondering if the folks (like me) who are getting frames only are 
at the back of the shipping line.

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Sent: Monday, October 26, 2015 5:46 PM
To: RBW Owners Bunch
Subject: [RBW] Re: Clems have shipped!

Anybody else get confirmation that there Clem/entine has shipped? Getting antsy 
as the weather's still nice here and I'd like to get my frameset built up asap. 
I ordered on the day after the presale was announced, so I'd assume that I'd be 
one of the first to have mine shipped.
David
Chicago

On Monday, October 26, 2015 at 4:44:32 PM UTC-5, David Banzer wrote:
I believe it comes with tig-welded Bosco bullmoose bars - functionally the same 
as what Riv sells individually, except not fillet brazed for the very smooth 
joint.
David
Chicago

On Monday, October 26, 2015 at 3:35:53 PM UTC-5, Reid wrote:
It came with the bull moose bars, too? Interesting.

Reid
On Monday, October 26, 2015 at 1:17:43 PM UTC-5, El Sapo wrote:

That's the way it comes, everything but the Brooks seat came with the bike. 
Grips and kickstand included.
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Re: [RBW] Re: Clems have shipped!

[Edwin W]

Just posted on the Blug:
http://rivbike.tumblr.com/
"For anyone in the initial Clem preorder (framesets), we’re shipping them 
out starting today. They look great. The earliest of adopters got an 
unexpected treat of creamed fork crowns. They look real nice. Here’s a 
phone video of how the rinko headset works. All you need is a big 
adjustable wrench. "
Supense is killing me...

On Monday, October 26, 2015 at 5:02:33 PM UTC-5, Pudge wrote:
>
> Me, too – I'm wondering if the folks (like me) who are getting frames only 
> are at the back of the shipping line.
>
>  
>
> *From:* rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com  [mailto:
> rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com ] *On Behalf Of *David Banzer
> *Sent:* Monday, October 26, 2015 5:46 PM
> *To:* RBW Owners Bunch
> *Subject:* [RBW] Re: Clems have shipped!
>
>  
>
> Anybody else get confirmation that there Clem/entine has shipped? Getting 
> antsy as the weather's still nice here and I'd like to get my frameset 
> built up asap. I ordered on the day after the presale was announced, so I'd 
> assume that I'd be one of the first to have mine shipped.
> David
> Chicago
>
> On Monday, October 26, 2015 at 4:44:32 PM UTC-5, David Banzer wrote:
>
> I believe it comes with tig-welded Bosco bullmoose bars - functionally the 
> same as what Riv sells individually, except not fillet brazed for the very 
> smooth joint.
> David
> Chicago
>
> On Monday, October 26, 2015 at 3:35:53 PM UTC-5, Reid wrote:
>
> It came with the bull moose bars, too? Interesting.
>
>  
>
> Reid
>
> On Monday, October 26, 2015 at 1:17:43 PM UTC-5, El Sapo wrote:
>
>  
>
> That's the way it comes, everything but the Brooks seat came with the 
> bike. Grips and kickstand included. 
>
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[RBW] Re: Clems have shipped!

[Ryan Fleming]

Hmmm...interesting. BTW the brooks is a nice touch...the saddle would be 
the 1 thing I'd replace. Not that the stock one is crappy; I just find 
Brooks more comfortable. I think Riv did a really good thing here (no 
surprise)..great value at a decent price

*People know the price of everything and the value of nothing  - Oscar 
Wilde*

On Monday, October 26, 2015 at 1:17:43 PM UTC-5, El Sapo wrote:
>
> I feel like I'm sitting inside the bike. I was a little worried there for 
> a while. Got it adjusted. Best, most natural riding position I've ever 
> experienced. Like walking, but on a bike. It took me 20 miles to figure it 
> out. 
>
> That's the way it comes, everything but the Brooks seat came with the 
> bike. Grips and kickstand included. 
>
> On Monday, October 26, 2015 at 9:04:03 AM UTC-7, Ryan Fleming wrote:
>
>> That's a nice-looking bike...blue's nice. How's the ride?
>>
>> On Friday, October 23, 2015 at 4:33:02 PM UTC-5, El Sapo wrote:
>>>
>>> Blue, different from the protos, not as dark. I'm liking it. The 
>>> ferrules are festive like Grant said they would be. 
>>
>>

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Re: [RBW] Re: Clems have shipped!

[Wayne Naha]

The creamed forks are tres cool.  Maybe my fork will get a touch up.

On Monday, October 26, 2015 at 6:58:29 PM UTC-4, Pudge wrote:
>
> Creamed fork crowns look very nice.  Can't wait!
>
>  
>
> *From:* rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com  [mailto:
> rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com ] *On Behalf Of *Edwin W
> *Sent:* Monday, October 26, 2015 6:55 PM
> *To:* RBW Owners Bunch
> *Subject:* Re: [RBW] Re: Clems have shipped!
>
>  
>
> I think frame, fork, headset, bottom bracket AND seatpost are included. 
> That is what I am banking on.
>
>  
>
> Edwin
>
> On Monday, October 26, 2015 at 5:43:07 PM UTC-5, David Banzer wrote:
>
> Edwin,
> Thanks for that. They look nice.
> To other frameset preorderers,
> A seatpost is included, correct? I didn't happen to see one get pulled out 
> of the box in that video. Not a biggie, just have everything else ready to 
> go except that.
> David
> Chicago
>
> On Monday, October 26, 2015 at 5:06:19 PM UTC-5, Edwin W wrote:
>
> Just posted on the Blug:
>
> http://rivbike.tumblr.com/
>
> "For anyone in the initial Clem preorder (framesets), we’re shipping them 
> out starting today. They look great. The earliest of adopters got an 
> unexpected treat of creamed fork crowns. They look real nice. Here’s a 
> phone video of how the rinko headset works. All you need is a big 
> adjustable wrench. "
>
> Supense is killing me...
>
> On Monday, October 26, 2015 at 5:02:33 PM UTC-5, Pudge wrote:
>
> Me, too – I'm wondering if the folks (like me) who are getting frames only 
> are at the back of the shipping line.
>
>  
>
> *From:* rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com [mailto:rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com] 
> *On Behalf Of *David Banzer
> *Sent:* Monday, October 26, 2015 5:46 PM
> *To:* RBW Owners Bunch
> *Subject:* [RBW] Re: Clems have shipped!
>
>  
>
> Anybody else get confirmation that there Clem/entine has shipped? Getting 
> antsy as the weather's still nice here and I'd like to get my frameset 
> built up asap. I ordered on the day after the presale was announced, so I'd 
> assume that I'd be one of the first to have mine shipped.
> David
> Chicago
>
> On Monday, October 26, 2015 at 4:44:32 PM UTC-5, David Banzer wrote:
>
> I believe it comes with tig-welded Bosco bullmoose bars - functionally the 
> same as what Riv sells individually, except not fillet brazed for the very 
> smooth joint.
> David
> Chicago
>
> On Monday, October 26, 2015 at 3:35:53 PM UTC-5, Reid wrote:
>
> It came with the bull moose bars, too? Interesting.
>
>  
>
> Reid
>
> On Monday, October 26, 2015 at 1:17:43 PM UTC-5, El Sapo wrote:
>
>  
>
> That's the way it comes, everything but the Brooks seat came with the 
> bike. Grips and kickstand included. 
>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Clems have shipped!

[Edwin W]

I think frame, fork, headset, bottom bracket AND seatpost are included. 
That is what I am banking on.

Edwin

On Monday, October 26, 2015 at 5:43:07 PM UTC-5, David Banzer wrote:
>
> Edwin,
> Thanks for that. They look nice.
> To other frameset preorderers,
> A seatpost is included, correct? I didn't happen to see one get pulled out 
> of the box in that video. Not a biggie, just have everything else ready to 
> go except that.
> David
> Chicago
>
> On Monday, October 26, 2015 at 5:06:19 PM UTC-5, Edwin W wrote:
>>
>> Just posted on the Blug:
>> http://rivbike.tumblr.com/
>> "For anyone in the initial Clem preorder (framesets), we’re shipping 
>> them out starting today. They look great. The earliest of adopters got an 
>> unexpected treat of creamed fork crowns. They look real nice. Here’s a 
>> phone video of how the rinko headset works. All you need is a big 
>> adjustable wrench. "
>> Supense is killing me...
>>
>> On Monday, October 26, 2015 at 5:02:33 PM UTC-5, Pudge wrote:
>>>
>>> Me, too – I'm wondering if the folks (like me) who are getting frames 
>>> only are at the back of the shipping line.
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>> *From:* rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com [mailto:
>>> rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *David Banzer
>>> *Sent:* Monday, October 26, 2015 5:46 PM
>>> *To:* RBW Owners Bunch
>>> *Subject:* [RBW] Re: Clems have shipped!
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>> Anybody else get confirmation that there Clem/entine has shipped? 
>>> Getting antsy as the weather's still nice here and I'd like to get my 
>>> frameset built up asap. I ordered on the day after the presale was 
>>> announced, so I'd assume that I'd be one of the first to have mine shipped.
>>> David
>>> Chicago
>>>
>>> On Monday, October 26, 2015 at 4:44:32 PM UTC-5, David Banzer wrote:
>>>
>>> I believe it comes with tig-welded Bosco bullmoose bars - functionally 
>>> the same as what Riv sells individually, except not fillet brazed for the 
>>> very smooth joint.
>>> David
>>> Chicago
>>>
>>> On Monday, October 26, 2015 at 3:35:53 PM UTC-5, Reid wrote:
>>>
>>> It came with the bull moose bars, too? Interesting.
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>> Reid
>>>
>>> On Monday, October 26, 2015 at 1:17:43 PM UTC-5, El Sapo wrote:
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>> That's the way it comes, everything but the Brooks seat came with the 
>>> bike. Grips and kickstand included. 
>>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Clems have shipped!

[David Banzer]

Very nice added bonus indeed. Looks like I have everything I need to build 
mine up, minus a few tiny things that I'll pick up at my LBS.
David
Chicago

On Monday, October 26, 2015 at 5:58:29 PM UTC-5, Pudge wrote:
>
> Creamed fork crowns look very nice.  Can't wait!
>
>  
>
> *From:* rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com  [mailto:
> rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com ] *On Behalf Of *Edwin W
> *Sent:* Monday, October 26, 2015 6:55 PM
> *To:* RBW Owners Bunch
> *Subject:* Re: [RBW] Re: Clems have shipped!
>
>  
>
> I think frame, fork, headset, bottom bracket AND seatpost are included. 
> That is what I am banking on.
>
>  
>
> Edwin
>
> On Monday, October 26, 2015 at 5:43:07 PM UTC-5, David Banzer wrote:
>
> Edwin,
> Thanks for that. They look nice.
> To other frameset preorderers,
> A seatpost is included, correct? I didn't happen to see one get pulled out 
> of the box in that video. Not a biggie, just have everything else ready to 
> go except that.
> David
> Chicago
>
> On Monday, October 26, 2015 at 5:06:19 PM UTC-5, Edwin W wrote:
>
> Just posted on the Blug:
>
> http://rivbike.tumblr.com/
>
> "For anyone in the initial Clem preorder (framesets), we’re shipping them 
> out starting today. They look great. The earliest of adopters got an 
> unexpected treat of creamed fork crowns. They look real nice. Here’s a 
> phone video of how the rinko headset works. All you need is a big 
> adjustable wrench. "
>
> Supense is killing me...
>
> On Monday, October 26, 2015 at 5:02:33 PM UTC-5, Pudge wrote:
>
> Me, too – I'm wondering if the folks (like me) who are getting frames only 
> are at the back of the shipping line.
>
>  
>
> *From:* rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com [mailto:rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com] 
> *On Behalf Of *David Banzer
> *Sent:* Monday, October 26, 2015 5:46 PM
> *To:* RBW Owners Bunch
> *Subject:* [RBW] Re: Clems have shipped!
>
>  
>
> Anybody else get confirmation that there Clem/entine has shipped? Getting 
> antsy as the weather's still nice here and I'd like to get my frameset 
> built up asap. I ordered on the day after the presale was announced, so I'd 
> assume that I'd be one of the first to have mine shipped.
> David
> Chicago
>
> On Monday, October 26, 2015 at 4:44:32 PM UTC-5, David Banzer wrote:
>
> I believe it comes with tig-welded Bosco bullmoose bars - functionally the 
> same as what Riv sells individually, except not fillet brazed for the very 
> smooth joint.
> David
> Chicago
>
> On Monday, October 26, 2015 at 3:35:53 PM UTC-5, Reid wrote:
>
> It came with the bull moose bars, too? Interesting.
>
>  
>
> Reid
>
> On Monday, October 26, 2015 at 1:17:43 PM UTC-5, El Sapo wrote:
>
>  
>
> That's the way it comes, everything but the Brooks seat came with the 
> bike. Grips and kickstand included. 
>
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[RBW] Re: Clems have shipped!

['Mark in Beacon' via RBW Owners Bunch]

Very nice. What is your inseam/saddle height, if you don't mind? What size 
bikes do you normally ride?

On Monday, October 26, 2015 at 2:17:43 PM UTC-4, El Sapo wrote:
>
> I feel like I'm sitting inside the bike. I was a little worried there for 
> a while. Got it adjusted. Best, most natural riding position I've ever 
> experienced. Like walking, but on a bike. It took me 20 miles to figure it 
> out. 
>
> That's the way it comes, everything but the Brooks seat came with the 
> bike. Grips and kickstand included. 
>
> On Monday, October 26, 2015 at 9:04:03 AM UTC-7, Ryan Fleming wrote:
>
>> That's a nice-looking bike...blue's nice. How's the ride?
>>
>> On Friday, October 23, 2015 at 4:33:02 PM UTC-5, El Sapo wrote:
>>>
>>> Blue, different from the protos, not as dark. I'm liking it. The 
>>> ferrules are festive like Grant said they would be. 
>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: Clems have shipped!

[Lungimsam]

Wow!! Eyelets all over the place... Massive fender and tire clearance... Rinko 
headset!!!

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RE: [RBW] Re: Clems have shipped!

[Allingham II, Thomas J]

I ordered a couple pairs of these grips, and they're VERY nice.  The natural 
gum ones might find their way to my impending Wilbury build.

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Do we know what is NOT coming with the complete bike?
I think I remember reading that saddle and pedals are included but grips aren't?
Does anyone know for sure?
I have a Med 'tine on the way
If grips aren't installed, I'm thinking these natural rubber grips from V.O. 
would do the trick
http://store.velo-orange.com/index.php/accessories/leather-goods-handlebar-grips/constructeur-rubber-grip.html
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[RBW] Re: Clems have shipped!

[jandrews_nyc]

Do we know what is NOT coming with the complete bike?
I think I remember reading that saddle and pedals are included but grips 
aren't?
Does anyone know for sure?
I have a Med 'tine on the way
If grips aren't installed, I'm thinking these natural rubber grips from 
V.O. would do the trick
http://store.velo-orange.com/index.php/accessories/leather-goods-handlebar-grips/constructeur-rubber-grip.html

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[RBW] Re: Clems have shipped!

[Ryan Fleming]

That's a nice-looking bike...blue's nice. How's the ride?

On Friday, October 23, 2015 at 4:33:02 PM UTC-5, El Sapo wrote:
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> Blue, different from the protos, not as dark. I'm liking it. The ferrules 
> are festive like Grant said they would be. 

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[RBW] Re: Clems have shipped!

[Wayne Naha]

I believe that grips are included with the Clems.  Riv decided to include 
them at some point, it's in the Blug.  Those rubber grips look good, 
though.  Is that kickstand seen on El Sapo's Clem included?  I don't recall 
reading about that anywhere.

On Monday, October 26, 2015 at 9:37:09 AM UTC-4, jandrews_nyc wrote:
>
> Do we know what is NOT coming with the complete bike?
> I think I remember reading that saddle and pedals are included but grips 
> aren't?
> Does anyone know for sure?
> I have a Med 'tine on the way
> If grips aren't installed, I'm thinking these natural rubber grips from 
> V.O. would do the trick
>
> http://store.velo-orange.com/index.php/accessories/leather-goods-handlebar-grips/constructeur-rubber-grip.html
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[RBW] Re: Clems have shipped!

[Tim Wood]

Let's see some more pics!!! Are they emailing everyone prioir to shipping?

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[RBW] Re: Clems have shipped!

[RDS]

Does anyone know if the green or gray colors changed too?

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> I just got an email from Riv informing me that my bike is on the way! 
>  W00t!
>

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[RBW] Re: Clems have shipped!

[El Sapo]

I have more pics of my wife's Clementine but I can't get my posts thru the site 
censors. Somebody needs to vouch for me or something?

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[RBW] Re: Clems have shipped!

['Mark in Beacon' via RBW Owners Bunch]

And from what I was told a very different orange. Sounded really nice and I 
was tempted--deeper, more like the old Rams, not as bright/clangy as the 
prototype. 

On Saturday, October 24, 2015 at 10:12:12 AM UTC-4, Edwin W wrote:
>
> I think Clems are blue, green and gray. 
> Clementines are black, orange and blue, but slightly different blue? 
> I've got a lil' gray Clem cooking. 
>
> Edwin
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[RBW] Re: Clems have shipped!

[El Sapo]

I rode the proto at the shop and it was different. I think it had regular bosco 
bars and a brooks seat. This one has a more upright ride. FUN! That's the 
medium 52 It looks like a small bike to my eye, but it's not. The frame is 
light compared to my 80's MTB's. This bike has a comfortable vibe that says 
slow down and enjoy the ride. 

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[RBW] Re: Clems have shipped!

['Chris Lampe 2' via RBW Owners Bunch]

Is the Clem the same blue as the Hillborne?  They look the same to me but I 
haven't seen anyone mention it.



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> I just got an email from Riv informing me that my bike is on the way! 
>  W00t!
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[RBW] Re: Clems have shipped!

['Chris Lampe 2' via RBW Owners Bunch]

Anyone expecting to get their bike today (Saturday)?  I figured out the 
blue one is a 52cm size with a 44 mm 650B tires (Kenda Kwick Seven-5).  



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> I just got an email from Riv informing me that my bike is on the way! 
>  W00t!
>

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[RBW] Re: Clems have shipped!

[Wayne Naha]

When did they decide to change the colors?  Are there any examples of the 
new colors?

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> I really like that blue!  The crank looks good do. And the vp pedals, are 
> those stock? So excited!!! 

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[RBW] Re: Clems have shipped!

[Wayne Naha]

According to blug entry "Grantpost Fri the 29th," the spoke nipples are 
brass.

On Saturday, October 24, 2015 at 11:43:39 AM UTC-4, Benz, Sunnyvale, CA 
wrote:
>
> Nice!
>
> Are those colored nipples brass or aluminum? How comfy is the saddle? The 
> wheel snob in me immediately saw that the rear rim label is facing the 
> "wrong" side! :)
>
>
>
> On Friday, October 23, 2015 at 12:45:29 PM UTC-7, El Sapo wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thursday, October 22, 2015 at 4:17:26 PM UTC-7, Wayne Naha wrote:
>>>
>>> I just got an email from Riv informing me that my bike is on the way! 
>>>  W00t!
>>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: Clems have shipped!

[Benz, Sunnyvale, CA]

Nice!

Are those colored nipples brass or aluminum? How comfy is the saddle? The 
wheel snob in me immediately saw that the rear rim label is facing the 
"wrong" side! :)



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>
>
> On Thursday, October 22, 2015 at 4:17:26 PM UTC-7, Wayne Naha wrote:
>>
>> I just got an email from Riv informing me that my bike is on the way! 
>>  W00t!
>>
>

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[RBW] Re: Clems have shipped!

[Edwin W]

I think Clems are blue, green and gray. 
Clementines are black, orange and blue, but slightly different blue? 
I've got a lil' gray Clem cooking. 

Edwin

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[RBW] Re: Clems have shipped!

[Tim Wood]

I really like that blue!  The crank looks good do. And the vp pedals, are those 
stock? So excited!!! 

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[RBW] Re: Clems have shipped!

[Edwin W]

I've slowly been accumulating parts for my Clem build, but with all of this 
chatter I realized I needed to get the last few things ready!
I put in an order for a few more things at Riv HQ to finalize things for 
when the frame comes… a week or so?

Looking forward to seeing all of the bikes,

Edwin

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> I just got an email from Riv informing me that my bike is on the way! 
>  W00t!
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[RBW] Re: Clems have shipped!

[Irving]

Kicking myself for not pre-ordering. What color option is that?

On Friday, October 23, 2015 at 12:45:29 PM UTC-7, El Sapo wrote:
>
>
>
> On Thursday, October 22, 2015 at 4:17:26 PM UTC-7, Wayne Naha wrote:
>>
>> I just got an email from Riv informing me that my bike is on the way! 
>>  W00t!
>>
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[RBW] Re: Clems have shipped!

[iamkeith]

El Sapo,

I didn't see any headlights in the photo you posted of your bike, and it 
surely has to be dark by now - even on the West Coast.   So spill the 
beans!  How's the ride?

On Friday, October 23, 2015 at 3:33:02 PM UTC-6, El Sapo wrote:

> Blue, different from the protos, not as dark. I'm liking it. The ferrules 
> are festive like Grant said they would be. 

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[RBW] Re: Clems have shipped!

[Wayne Naha]

Man!  That looks great!  That's the first production Clem released in the 
wild!  Nicely done.

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>
>
>
> On Thursday, October 22, 2015 at 4:17:26 PM UTC-7, Wayne Naha wrote:
>>
>> I just got an email from Riv informing me that my bike is on the way! 
>>  W00t!
>>
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[RBW] Re: Clems have shipped!

[El Sapo]

Blue, different from the protos, not as dark. I'm liking it. The ferrules are 
festive like Grant said they would be. 

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[RBW] Re: Clems have shipped!

[iamkeith]

Fantastic!  I cant believe you guys beat me though.  I had convinced myself 
that I was certain to have been the first to jump in on day 1 or 2.

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[RBW] Re: Clems have shipped!

['Chris Lampe 2' via RBW Owners Bunch]

What size Clem is that?



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>
>
> On Thursday, October 22, 2015 at 4:17:26 PM UTC-7, Wayne Naha wrote:
>>
>> I just got an email from Riv informing me that my bike is on the way! 
>>  W00t!
>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Clems have shipped!

[James Warren]

Wonderful!

Sent from my iPhone

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> 
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>> On Thursday, October 22, 2015 at 4:17:26 PM UTC-7, Wayne Naha wrote:
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[RBW] Re: Clems have shipped!

[Joe Bernard]

Oh my, that's a really pretty blue. It reminds me of a '90/'91-ish 
Bridgestone MB-2 I've always liked. 

On Friday, October 23, 2015 at 12:45:29 PM UTC-7, El Sapo wrote:
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>
>
> On Thursday, October 22, 2015 at 4:17:26 PM UTC-7, Wayne Naha wrote:
>>
>> I just got an email from Riv informing me that my bike is on the way! 
>>  W00t!
>>
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[RBW] Re: Clems have shipped!

[Norman R]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AqOrZP2EpNk

On Friday, October 23, 2015 at 5:40:29 PM UTC-4, iamkeith wrote:
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> Fantastic!  I cant believe you guys beat me though.  I had convinced 
> myself that I was certain to have been the first to jump in on day 1 or 2.
>
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[RBW] Re: Clems have shipped!

['Chris Lampe 2' via RBW Owners Bunch]

Can't wait to see pictures start popping up.  Maybe we need a dedicated 
thread for Clem pictures!



On Thursday, October 22, 2015 at 7:12:11 PM UTC-5, David Banzer wrote:
>
> Hope that's how it goes. I ordered the day after they were announced, so 
> hopefully that gets me very close to the front of the line as well.
> David
> Chicago
>
> On Thursday, October 22, 2015 at 6:59:04 PM UTC-5, Edwin W wrote:
>>
>> When I talked to them they said they would be shipping them in order of 
>> when they were bought. So you must have been front of the line. 
>> They did say I was pretty close, so it should be pretty soon. 
>
>

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[RBW] Re: Clems have shipped!

[David Banzer]

Hope that's how it goes. I ordered the day after they were announced, so 
hopefully that gets me very close to the front of the line as well.
David
Chicago

On Thursday, October 22, 2015 at 6:59:04 PM UTC-5, Edwin W wrote:
>
> When I talked to them they said they would be shipping them in order of 
> when they were bought. So you must have been front of the line. 
> They did say I was pretty close, so it should be pretty soon. 

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[RBW] Re: Clems have shipped!

[Zed Martinez]

Second day here too. Fingers crossed for both of us yet this week ;)


On Thursday, October 22, 2015 at 8:12:11 PM UTC-4, David Banzer wrote:
>
> Hope that's how it goes. I ordered the day after they were announced, so 
> hopefully that gets me very close to the front of the line as well.
> David
> Chicago
>
> On Thursday, October 22, 2015 at 6:59:04 PM UTC-5, Edwin W wrote:
>>
>> When I talked to them they said they would be shipping them in order of 
>> when they were bought. So you must have been front of the line. 
>> They did say I was pretty close, so it should be pretty soon. 
>
>

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