[RBW] Re: Hitch rack recommendations?

2017-09-13 Thread Michele
I just opened the demo video on YouTube and there are a bunch of comments 
there too around this confusing and not fully explained 
dispute. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=43WSDih6mOQ

On Wednesday, September 13, 2017 at 1:32:59 PM UTC-7, Chris Birkenmaier 
wrote:
>
> Howard I actually called and spoke to the owner this afternoon about the 
> bike rack.  When I asked about the rollers he said it was a different 
> company and that this other company sells them but doesn't actually produce 
> them  (the "other 1 up usa)   I did notice they were both WI located 
> companies.  I kind of had the feeling at the time that it wasn't kosher to 
> bring up the topic of the rollers although he was polite about it.  My 
> takeaway is that they are separate companies with similar/same names and 
> I'm not sure why that is.
>
> On Wednesday, September 13, 2017 at 3:32:23 PM UTC-4, Howard Hatten wrote:
>>
>> Sounds like it might be some kind of a partnership dispute. The new 
>> company is 11 miles up the road from the original. 
>>
>> Howard   ( loving my recently purchased original one-up)
>> Livonia Mi. 
>>
>

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[RBW] Re: Hitch rack recommendations?

2017-09-13 Thread Chris Birkenmaier
Howard I actually called and spoke to the owner this afternoon about the 
bike rack.  When I asked about the rollers he said it was a different 
company and that this other company sells them but doesn't actually produce 
them  (the "other 1 up usa)   I did notice they were both WI located 
companies.  I kind of had the feeling at the time that it wasn't kosher to 
bring up the topic of the rollers although he was polite about it.  My 
takeaway is that they are separate companies with similar/same names and 
I'm not sure why that is.

On Wednesday, September 13, 2017 at 3:32:23 PM UTC-4, Howard Hatten wrote:
>
> Sounds like it might be some kind of a partnership dispute. The new 
> company is 11 miles up the road from the original. 
>
> Howard   ( loving my recently purchased original one-up)
> Livonia Mi. 
>

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[RBW] Re: Hitch rack recommendations?

2017-09-13 Thread Howard Hatten
Sounds like it might be some kind of a partnership dispute. The new company is 
11 miles up the road from the original. 

Howard   ( loving my recently purchased original one-up)
Livonia Mi. 

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[RBW] Re: Hitch rack recommendations?

2017-09-13 Thread Chris Birkenmaier
Well that is interesting.  I kind of wondered what was up with different 
websites.  I had read, I think, on a bike forum that one was an 
international company and the other the USA domestic.  Don't quote me on 
that as my memory is fuzzy.  So if the second site is the "real" company, 
they don't offer the rollers?  I've been eyeing them up for years and not 
bought them yet - but still interested.

On Wednesday, September 13, 2017 at 12:37:22 PM UTC-4, Michele wrote:
>
> With all the rave reviews here for 1UP racks, I decided to go that route. 
> However, there seem to be two websites. Just wondering if anyone knows what 
> the story is? When I inquired, the inventor/founder said the other site is 
> using his trade name without permission.
>
> This site still allows ordering, but it looks like the old version?
> https://www.1up-usa.com/
>
> This one says not available until December, but with a much-improved 
> version. (this is the inventor/founder's site)  
> https://1upusa.com/
>
> Based on such key improvements, I think I'm going to wait for the new 
> version.
>
> Thanks,
> Michele
>
> On Wednesday, August 16, 2017 at 11:32:01 AM UTC-7, Cameron Murphy wrote:
>>
>> I'll also give a big thumbs up for the 1up racks.  After a nuclear war, 
>> all that will remain will be cockroaches, and the 1up racks.  (Maybe a bit 
>> of hyperbole, but seriously, they make most other racks I've owned or used 
>> look kind of cheap and flimsy.)
>>
>> The racks can be adjusted as to where they hit the wheel.  I don't think 
>> you would have any trouble with your Wald basket, as on my 700c sized 
>> bikes, the arms generally come up to only about 40% of the wheel diameter, 
>> and this could be made less by lowering the crossbar between the arms.   
>> The only possible trouble would be fenders, as the rack needs to make good 
>> contact with the wheels.  They sell a fender adapter, which appears to just 
>> be a short section of pipe insulation so you can snug the arms up against 
>> the fender instead.  That doesn't strike me as terribly secure, as you are 
>> putting all the force through the fender stays.   (I have't tried it 
>> myself, but I've read several reports suggesting that they work just fine 
>> with fenders. So, maybe it isn't that big of a deal.)
>>
>> Cameron Murphy
>> San Marcos, CA
>>
>> On Wednesday, August 16, 2017 at 9:16:43 AM UTC-7, Michele wrote:
>>>
>>> Lots of love for the 1UP, and I like how compact it is when folded. But 
>>> son't those two wheel holders preclude having a small front rack with Wald 
>>> 137 basket on the front?
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, August 15, 2017 at 2:04:28 PM UTC-7, TopsfieldRider wrote:

 I have the 1Up and love it.  Holds my mixte and 55mm tires bikes with 
 ease. Easy on and off.  I can't imagine a. Ike it won't hold. Expensive, 
 but the last rack you'll ever have to buy. 
>>>
>>>

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[RBW] Re: Hitch rack recommendations?

2017-09-13 Thread Michele
With all the rave reviews here for 1UP racks, I decided to go that route. 
However, there seem to be two websites. Just wondering if anyone knows what 
the story is? When I inquired, the inventor/founder said the other site is 
using his trade name without permission.

This site still allows ordering, but it looks like the old version?
https://www.1up-usa.com/

This one says not available until December, but with a much-improved 
version. (this is the inventor/founder's site)  
https://1upusa.com/

Based on such key improvements, I think I'm going to wait for the new 
version.

Thanks,
Michele

On Wednesday, August 16, 2017 at 11:32:01 AM UTC-7, Cameron Murphy wrote:
>
> I'll also give a big thumbs up for the 1up racks.  After a nuclear war, 
> all that will remain will be cockroaches, and the 1up racks.  (Maybe a bit 
> of hyperbole, but seriously, they make most other racks I've owned or used 
> look kind of cheap and flimsy.)
>
> The racks can be adjusted as to where they hit the wheel.  I don't think 
> you would have any trouble with your Wald basket, as on my 700c sized 
> bikes, the arms generally come up to only about 40% of the wheel diameter, 
> and this could be made less by lowering the crossbar between the arms.   
> The only possible trouble would be fenders, as the rack needs to make good 
> contact with the wheels.  They sell a fender adapter, which appears to just 
> be a short section of pipe insulation so you can snug the arms up against 
> the fender instead.  That doesn't strike me as terribly secure, as you are 
> putting all the force through the fender stays.   (I have't tried it 
> myself, but I've read several reports suggesting that they work just fine 
> with fenders. So, maybe it isn't that big of a deal.)
>
> Cameron Murphy
> San Marcos, CA
>
> On Wednesday, August 16, 2017 at 9:16:43 AM UTC-7, Michele wrote:
>>
>> Lots of love for the 1UP, and I like how compact it is when folded. But 
>> son't those two wheel holders preclude having a small front rack with Wald 
>> 137 basket on the front?
>>
>> On Tuesday, August 15, 2017 at 2:04:28 PM UTC-7, TopsfieldRider wrote:
>>>
>>> I have the 1Up and love it.  Holds my mixte and 55mm tires bikes with 
>>> ease. Easy on and off.  I can't imagine a. Ike it won't hold. Expensive, 
>>> but the last rack you'll ever have to buy. 
>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: Hitch rack recommendations?

2017-08-17 Thread Michele
Thanks Scott -- good to know that it *can* work in some cases.

On Wednesday, August 16, 2017 at 5:17:49 PM UTC-7, Scott G. wrote:
>
>
>
> On Wednesday, August 16, 2017 at 7:00:16 PM UTC-4, Michele wrote:
>>
>> Looks like all the Kuat and Rocky Mounts platform hitches hook over the 
>> front wheel :( so no front mini rack and Wald basket.
>>
>
> I used a Kuat Sherpa with an Ebiusu with a M-12 front rack.
> Rack arm went between the platform and tire, ymmv based on distance between
> platform and rack. Quite secure. 
>

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[RBW] Re: Hitch rack recommendations?

2017-08-16 Thread Scott G.


On Wednesday, August 16, 2017 at 7:00:16 PM UTC-4, Michele wrote:
>
> Looks like all the Kuat and Rocky Mounts platform hitches hook over the 
> front wheel :( so no front mini rack and Wald basket.
>

I used a Kuat Sherpa with an Ebiusu with a M-12 front rack.
Rack arm went between the platform and tire, ymmv based on distance between
platform and rack. Quite secure. 

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[RBW] Re: Hitch rack recommendations?

2017-08-16 Thread Michele
Looks like all the Kuat and Rocky Mounts platform hitches hook over the 
front wheel :( so no front mini rack and Wald basket.

On Wednesday, August 16, 2017 at 10:54:31 AM UTC-7, Steve wrote:
>
> Might want to consider a Kuat, which also get highly rated.  Another 
> similar option is the Rocky Mounts, which you can buy on Nashbar and save 
> when they run their 25% off everything sales with free shipping
>
> On Monday, August 14, 2017 at 2:11:07 PM UTC-4, Michele wrote:
>>
>> Shopping for a rack for my car, so I can get my bike to farther flung 
>> locations, and I'm realizing that most hitch racks require a naked front 
>> wheel. I need one that allows me to have a small rack and Wald 137 on the 
>> front. I'm considering the Thule DoubleTrack Pro 
>> https://www.thule.com/en-us/us/bike-rack/hitch-bike-racks/thule-doubletrack-pro-_-1691160
>>  
>> but I'm wondering what riders in this group use?
>>
>

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[RBW] Re: Hitch rack recommendations?

2017-08-16 Thread Cameron Murphy
I'll also give a big thumbs up for the 1up racks.  After a nuclear war, all 
that will remain will be cockroaches, and the 1up racks.  (Maybe a bit of 
hyperbole, but seriously, they make most other racks I've owned or used 
look kind of cheap and flimsy.)

The racks can be adjusted as to where they hit the wheel.  I don't think 
you would have any trouble with your Wald basket, as on my 700c sized 
bikes, the arms generally come up to only about 40% of the wheel diameter, 
and this could be made less by lowering the crossbar between the arms.   
The only possible trouble would be fenders, as the rack needs to make good 
contact with the wheels.  They sell a fender adapter, which appears to just 
be a short section of pipe insulation so you can snug the arms up against 
the fender instead.  That doesn't strike me as terribly secure, as you are 
putting all the force through the fender stays.   (I have't tried it 
myself, but I've read several reports suggesting that they work just fine 
with fenders. So, maybe it isn't that big of a deal.)

Cameron Murphy
San Marcos, CA

On Wednesday, August 16, 2017 at 9:16:43 AM UTC-7, Michele wrote:
>
> Lots of love for the 1UP, and I like how compact it is when folded. But 
> son't those two wheel holders preclude having a small front rack with Wald 
> 137 basket on the front?
>
> On Tuesday, August 15, 2017 at 2:04:28 PM UTC-7, TopsfieldRider wrote:
>>
>> I have the 1Up and love it.  Holds my mixte and 55mm tires bikes with 
>> ease. Easy on and off.  I can't imagine a. Ike it won't hold. Expensive, 
>> but the last rack you'll ever have to buy. 
>
>

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[RBW] Re: Hitch rack recommendations?

2017-08-16 Thread 'Steve' via RBW Owners Bunch
Might want to consider a Kuat, which also get highly rated.  Another 
similar option is the Rocky Mounts, which you can buy on Nashbar and save 
when they run their 25% off everything sales with free shipping

On Monday, August 14, 2017 at 2:11:07 PM UTC-4, Michele wrote:
>
> Shopping for a rack for my car, so I can get my bike to farther flung 
> locations, and I'm realizing that most hitch racks require a naked front 
> wheel. I need one that allows me to have a small rack and Wald 137 on the 
> front. I'm considering the Thule DoubleTrack Pro 
> https://www.thule.com/en-us/us/bike-rack/hitch-bike-racks/thule-doubletrack-pro-_-1691160
>  
> but I'm wondering what riders in this group use?
>

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[RBW] Re: Hitch rack recommendations?

2017-08-16 Thread Michele
Lots of love for the 1UP, and I like how compact it is when folded. But 
son't those two wheel holders preclude having a small front rack with Wald 
137 basket on the front?

On Tuesday, August 15, 2017 at 2:04:28 PM UTC-7, TopsfieldRider wrote:
>
> I have the 1Up and love it.  Holds my mixte and 55mm tires bikes with 
> ease. Easy on and off.  I can't imagine a. Ike it won't hold. Expensive, 
> but the last rack you'll ever have to buy. 

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[RBW] Re: Hitch rack recommendations?

2017-08-16 Thread Michele
I hear you about tight storage. I'm trying to find something that is sturdy 
and easy to use, but that I can also fit in small shared garage space.

On Tuesday, August 15, 2017 at 12:17:24 AM UTC-7, Ed Carolipio wrote:
>
> I have the Swagman XTC2 rack which is similar to the Hollywood one but IMO 
> the fit and finish on the Swagman is a little nicer. (I've owned both.) 
> I've had no issues with fenders, racks, or mixte frames, and I've even 
> hauled our Xtracycle Edgerunner (long tail cargo bike) with room to spare. 
> Not as fancy as the Thule so it costs less.
>
> http://www.swagman.net/product/x-tc2/
>
> It doesn't come with a decent integrated system to lock the bike or the 
> hitch bolt. (Workarounds are, of course, available.) There's no mechanism 
> to move the bike out of the way to open the trunk or tailgate, so I just 
> plan accordingly. And I wouldn't use it with a carbon fiber frame.
>
> As a side comment, I personally would be reluctant to get the Thule rack 
> you link. It's a great rack but I don't like how it doesn't fold compactly 
> when off the car. Platform racks are large and oddly shaped, so the ones 
> I've owned have been a pain to store. With lots of room, that wouldn't be 
> an issue, but garage space for me is a rare and precious commodity.
>
> --Ed C.
>
> On Monday, August 14, 2017 at 11:11:07 AM UTC-7, Michele wrote:
>>
>> Shopping for a rack for my car, so I can get my bike to farther flung 
>> locations, and I'm realizing that most hitch racks require a naked front 
>> wheel. I need one that allows me to have a small rack and Wald 137 on the 
>> front. I'm considering the Thule DoubleTrack Pro 
>> https://www.thule.com/en-us/us/bike-rack/hitch-bike-racks/thule-doubletrack-pro-_-1691160
>>  
>> but I'm wondering what riders in this group use?
>>
>

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[RBW] Re: Hitch rack recommendations?

2017-08-15 Thread Scott Calhoun
For several years, I've had the Thule Doulbletrack Rack that I think is a 
generation earlier that the one you are inquiring about. I think you can 
still buy it new 
here: 
https://www.etrailer.com/Hitch-Bike-Racks/Thule/TH990XT.html?feed=npn&gclid=EAIaIQobChMIyL6gydHZ1QIVBZR-Ch1vQAu6EAQYASABEgJF4PD_BwE

I like it because it accommodates all of the bike types and sizes that I 
deal with and will work with fenders just fine. Sometimes, handlebars and 
saddles will interfere with each other, but you can slide the wheel mounts 
fore and aft to make it work in most cases. It also locks. I've driven with 
bikes on it from Tucson to N.C. and back and Tucson to Portland and back 
without issue. 

Scott

On Monday, August 14, 2017 at 11:11:07 AM UTC-7, Michele wrote:
>
> Shopping for a rack for my car, so I can get my bike to farther flung 
> locations, and I'm realizing that most hitch racks require a naked front 
> wheel. I need one that allows me to have a small rack and Wald 137 on the 
> front. I'm considering the Thule DoubleTrack Pro 
> https://www.thule.com/en-us/us/bike-rack/hitch-bike-racks/thule-doubletrack-pro-_-1691160
>  
> but I'm wondering what riders in this group use?
>

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[RBW] Re: Hitch rack recommendations?

2017-08-15 Thread TopsfieldRider
I have the 1Up and love it.  Holds my mixte and 55mm tires bikes with ease. 
Easy on and off.  I can't imagine a. Ike it won't hold. Expensive, but the last 
rack you'll ever have to buy. 

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Re: [RBW] Re: Hitch rack recommendations?

2017-08-15 Thread René Sterental
+1 for the 1UP. If you get the single one (which can have another one or
two added for a total of 3), you don't even need to open it to get to the
rear door if you have an SUV. Must be the same with a car, but haven't
tested it. I leave mine on permanently and folded; no interference on my
Highlander.

René

On Tue, Aug 15, 2017 at 8:45 AM, dstein  wrote:

> I highly recommend 1UP. 100% MUSA. They sell adapters to work with
> fenders. I also really like it because it's easy to take on and off. I
> usually leave mine in the back of my car and only put it on the hitch when
> i'm going on a bike ride, it's that easy.
>
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[RBW] Re: Hitch rack recommendations?

2017-08-15 Thread dstein
I highly recommend 1UP. 100% MUSA. They sell adapters to work with fenders. 
I also really like it because it's easy to take on and off. I usually leave 
mine in the back of my car and only put it on the hitch when i'm going on a 
bike ride, it's that easy.


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[RBW] Re: Hitch rack recommendations?

2017-08-15 Thread E Lee
I recently picked up the Thule Apex 4.  Pricey but so far I have no 
complaints. It has a knob to tighten a wedge in the receiver. fits 1-1/4" 
or 2" by way of a bolt on adapter.
The LBS also has the Thule double track pro. They are great looking racks, 
and seem to be reasonably priced.

On Monday, August 14, 2017 at 2:11:07 PM UTC-4, Michele wrote:

> Shopping for a rack for my car, so I can get my bike to farther flung 
> locations, and I'm realizing that most hitch racks require a naked front 
> wheel. I need one that allows me to have a small rack and Wald 137 on the 
> front. I'm considering the Thule DoubleTrack Pro 
> https://www.thule.com/en-us/us/bike-rack/hitch-bike-racks/thule-doubletrack-pro-_-1691160
>  
> but I'm wondering what riders in this group use?
>

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[RBW] Re: Hitch rack recommendations?

2017-08-15 Thread Christopher Wiggins
I've used (and sell) Swagman racks.  They worked well enough.  I just got a 
Thule Doubletrack Pro, and for bikes with fenders, baskets and bags, I 
think it's the best.  That's the ways it's worked for me anyway.

Chris Wiggins
A1 Cyclery
Indianapolis IN

On Monday, August 14, 2017 at 2:11:07 PM UTC-4, Michele wrote:
>
> Shopping for a rack for my car, so I can get my bike to farther flung 
> locations, and I'm realizing that most hitch racks require a naked front 
> wheel. I need one that allows me to have a small rack and Wald 137 on the 
> front. I'm considering the Thule DoubleTrack Pro 
> https://www.thule.com/en-us/us/bike-rack/hitch-bike-racks/thule-doubletrack-pro-_-1691160
>  
> but I'm wondering what riders in this group use?
>

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[RBW] Re: Hitch rack recommendations?

2017-08-15 Thread 'Dave Small' via RBW Owners Bunch
I use a Transit rack that I got for $200 from Performance a few years ago. 
 It looks exactly like the 2-bike version of the Hollywood rack that Weth 
linked to above, and I love it except for one thing:  I have to secure it 
with a strap leading from the pole to the front edge of the trunk, 
tightened down to prevent bouncing.  The strap comes with the rack, but 
it's a minor hassle to install and prevents access to the trunk while it's 
installed.  The link to the Hollywood says it "features patented 'no 
wobble-no tools' hitch tightening system" which would make this perfect for 
my bikes, all of which have fenders.  I'm going to look more into the 
Hollywood when I get a chance.  

Dave
Indianapolis, IN

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[RBW] Re: Hitch rack recommendations?

2017-08-15 Thread Ed Carolipio
I have the Swagman XTC2 rack which is similar to the Hollywood one but IMO 
the fit and finish on the Swagman is a little nicer. (I've owned both.) 
I've had no issues with fenders, racks, or mixte frames, and I've even 
hauled our Xtracycle Edgerunner (long tail cargo bike) with room to spare. 
Not as fancy as the Thule so it costs less.

http://www.swagman.net/product/x-tc2/

It doesn't come with a decent integrated system to lock the bike or the 
hitch bolt. (Workarounds are, of course, available.) There's no mechanism 
to move the bike out of the way to open the trunk or tailgate, so I just 
plan accordingly. And I wouldn't use it with a carbon fiber frame.

As a side comment, I personally would be reluctant to get the Thule rack 
you link. It's a great rack but I don't like how it doesn't fold compactly 
when off the car. Platform racks are large and oddly shaped, so the ones 
I've owned have been a pain to store. With lots of room, that wouldn't be 
an issue, but garage space for me is a rare and precious commodity.

--Ed C.

On Monday, August 14, 2017 at 11:11:07 AM UTC-7, Michele wrote:
>
> Shopping for a rack for my car, so I can get my bike to farther flung 
> locations, and I'm realizing that most hitch racks require a naked front 
> wheel. I need one that allows me to have a small rack and Wald 137 on the 
> front. I'm considering the Thule DoubleTrack Pro 
> https://www.thule.com/en-us/us/bike-rack/hitch-bike-racks/thule-doubletrack-pro-_-1691160
>  
> but I'm wondering what riders in this group use?
>

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[RBW] Re: Hitch rack recommendations?

2017-08-14 Thread Jon Spangler
John,

The fix for mixtes (and kids bikes and bikes with extreme-sloping top 
tubes) is a top tube adapter bar. They run $25-$40 usually. I think mine 
are from Topeak, the maker of bike accessories, but Thule, Allen, Yakima, 
and others make these adjustable-length bars with hooks or clips on each 
end--usually to go around your bike's stem and seat post, creating a top 
tube. I use one all the time on my 1972 Peugeot mixte,which also has a Wald 
"Pizza Rack" on the front. 

Our 2007 Prius has a 1.25-inch receiver (expect these to scrape on 
low-riding cars like a Prius) and we use a Double Down Four hitch rack with 
it. The DD4 scrapes a lot when it is installed due to the flat tongue and 
long extension but I still recommend Yakima products.

I found these videos in a quick search--no product or content endorsements 
offered or implied:

https://youtu.be/B7qXbvllr_g

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xcH9dk4Iot8

Jon Spangler
Alameda, CA USA



On Monday, August 14, 2017 at 10:03:07 PM UTC-7, Surlyprof wrote:
>
> I've been using a loaner where the bikes hang from the top tube.  Would 
> not recommend it.  Pain to load and I can't figure out how to load my 
> wife's mixte.  If I was buying one, I'd get one with wheel trays.  Also 
> want it to either tip or swing out of the way of the rear door. 
>  I've been curious about the new Saris.  Sounds good on their website (but 
> doesn't everything?).  Here's the link:  
> https://www.saris.com/product/superclamp-ex-2?utm_campaign=superclamp_ex&utm_medium=web&utm_source=homepage
>
> John
>

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[RBW] Re: Hitch rack recommendations?

2017-08-14 Thread Bill in Roswell GA
Thule Double Track Pro is a great choice for your bike. It is a better 
design than the Yakima Two Timer in the way the Thule clamps work. Also, 
Thule racks are EN tested to Euro standards so there is some baseline for 
comparison with strict standards. 

FWIW, REI Labor Day sale always has Thule and Yakima for 20% off. 


On Monday, August 14, 2017 at 2:11:07 PM UTC-4, Michele wrote:
>
> Shopping for a rack for my car, so I can get my bike to farther flung 
> locations, and I'm realizing that most hitch racks require a naked front 
> wheel. I need one that allows me to have a small rack and Wald 137 on the 
> front. I'm considering the Thule DoubleTrack Pro 
> https://www.thule.com/en-us/us/bike-rack/hitch-bike-racks/thule-doubletrack-pro-_-1691160
>  
> but I'm wondering what riders in this group use?
>

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