[RBW] Re: How are you guys putting Hetres on Rambouillets???
Stephen's got it. It's not the fork's width that's the issue, it's the distance from the dropouts to the fork crown that limits the size of tire on a Ram. Mine Ram is a 60, yes it's a 700c bike. The 650b Hetre is just a tad shorter than the 700x28 Ruffy Tuffy, but not much at all. When I switched to the longer Tektros: the front brake was right at the right length all the way down, but it's the rear, because of the angle, that ends up 'a hair' too short still. A little bit of filing, not a lot, in the slot takes care of that.(Note: I did switch to salmon pads, not the original black ones, little bit different profile). The thing that I liked, was that I had it fendered w/ the 32 on the rear (the front was close, so I had a 28 up front); I left the fenders in place, swapped wheelsets, and it fit about right... has a bit more clearance in there, but the fender line was good (at least, good enough for me). I did tweak it a little, but, that was more because... One thing I ended up doing, not related to the swap, but needed to do anyway: My fenders are aluminum ones from VO. I like them, a lot. But, the way the struts mount, is with a single daruma; at slow-speed turns, sometimes my toe would slide down the fender and catch on the daruma. Not bad, didn't cause a wreck or anything, but, was annoying. I noticed the Berthoud struts use a pair of screws/nuts, offset off of the center, and sit much more flush w/ the surface, aren't as proud as the daruma. So, I switched to using a Berthoud strut w/ my VO fender; solved the toe-catch by eliminating the daruma. I've still not trimmed the struts at the dropout, I wanted to make sure I left them long enough to handle the 700c tires, too. But they do need trimming, for appearances sake. http://www.flickr.com/photos/leslie_bright/8351735340/lightbox/ -L On Friday, February 1, 2013 1:40:52 AM UTC-5, Stephen S wrote: 700c Rams can be converted to 650b and then you can run the Hetres. The Tektro 73mm brakes are a little too short though so you can either file them down for more clearance or use v-brake pads which tend to give you the range needed. 700x28 and 650x42 are near enough to the same diameter that you don't have the issues with BB drop and you can mount fenders without all of the hassle of trying to get them to work with much bigger than 28s while working with 700c wheels. TToshi, who recently posted on the ram/ahh/roadeo differences has done a conversion recently. He seemed fairly happy with the conversion. I am planning to take on a conversion on my 56 Rambouillet sometime in the nearish future. On Thursday, January 31, 2013 9:56:51 PM UTC-8, Michael wrote: Two of you have posted that you have Hetres on Rams. But I thought Rams have fork clearance for 35mm wide tire, at most. And aren't Rams 26 or 700c wheels? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: How are you guys putting Hetres on Rambouillets???
Spec on the Ram is a 37 mm max tire with 700 wheels for most of the sizes and 26 wheels for the small sizes. I have the 52 cm frame with 26 and am running 37 mm Paselas on it. There is some room still there, so if a 38 tire was avail in 26, I'd give it a try. Changing the 700 to 650B moves the circumference of the tire slightly inside the fork or stay taper and gives that extra clearance to run Hetres. On Thursday, January 31, 2013 9:56:51 PM UTC-8, Michael wrote: Two of you have posted that you have Hetres on Rams. But I thought Rams have fork clearance for 35mm wide tire, at most. And aren't Rams 26 or 700c wheels? -- -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: How are you guys putting Hetres on Rambouillets???
OK, so it is the height of the forks that restricts the size of the tire. I get it. But there has never been a production 650b Ram? Orange, Blue, and Grren have always been 26 or 700c? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: How are you guys putting Hetres on Rambouillets???
On Fri, 2013-02-01 at 08:55 -0800, Michael wrote: But there has never been a production 650b Ram? Orange, Blue, and Grren have always been 26 or 700c? No, never. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: How are you guys putting Hetres on Rambouillets???
Saluki/Hilsen, hillborn, Betty, Bombadil. Any other RBW models that are/were 650B? On Feb 1, 11:57 am, Steve Palincsar palin...@his.com wrote: On Fri, 2013-02-01 at 08:55 -0800, Michael wrote: But there has never been a production 650b Ram? Orange, Blue, and Grren have always been 26 or 700c? No, never. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: How are you guys putting Hetres on Rambouillets???
cannot forget the good ol' Bleriot! On Fri, Feb 1, 2013 at 9:06 AM, ted ted.ke...@comcast.net wrote: Saluki/Hilsen, hillborn, Betty, Bombadil. Any other RBW models that are/were 650B? On Feb 1, 11:57 am, Steve Palincsar palin...@his.com wrote: On Fri, 2013-02-01 at 08:55 -0800, Michael wrote: But there has never been a production 650b Ram? Orange, Blue, and Grren have always been 26 or 700c? No, never. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
RE: [RBW] Re: How are you guys putting Hetres on Rambouillets???
And Glorious/Wilbury mixtes! From: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com [mailto:rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Michael Williams Sent: Friday, February 01, 2013 12:13 PM To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [RBW] Re: How are you guys putting Hetres on Rambouillets??? cannot forget the good ol' Bleriot! On Fri, Feb 1, 2013 at 9:06 AM, ted ted.ke...@comcast.netmailto:ted.ke...@comcast.net wrote: Saluki/Hilsen, hillborn, Betty, Bombadil. Any other RBW models that are/were 650B? On Feb 1, 11:57 am, Steve Palincsar palin...@his.commailto:palin...@his.com wrote: On Fri, 2013-02-01 at 08:55 -0800, Michael wrote: But there has never been a production 650b Ram? Orange, Blue, and Grren have always been 26 or 700c? No, never. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.commailto:rbw-owners-bunch%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.commailto:rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.commailto:rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.commailto:rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- To ensure compliance with Treasury Department regulations, we advise you that, unless otherwise expressly indicated, any federal tax advice contained in this message was not intended or written to be used, and cannot be used, for the purpose of (i) avoiding tax-related penalties under the Internal Revenue Code or applicable state or local tax law provisions or (ii) promoting, marketing or recommending to another party any tax-related matters addressed herein. This email (and any attachments thereto) is intended only for use by the addressee(s) named herein and may contain legally privileged and/or confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient of this email, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this email (and any attachments thereto) is strictly prohibited. If you receive this email in error please immediately notify me at (212) 735-3000 and permanently delete the original email (and any copy of any email) and any printout thereof. Further information about the firm, a list of the Partners and their professional qualifications will be provided upon request. == -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: How are you guys putting Hetres on Rambouillets???
Small Sam Hillbornes are 650B On Friday, February 1, 2013 9:06:49 AM UTC-8, ted wrote: Saluki/Hilsen, hillborn, Betty, Bombadil. Any other RBW models that are/were 650B? On Feb 1, 11:57 am, Steve Palincsar palin...@his.com wrote: On Fri, 2013-02-01 at 08:55 -0800, Michael wrote: But there has never been a production 650b Ram? Orange, Blue, and Grren have always been 26 or 700c? No, never. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: How are you guys putting Hetres on Rambouillets???
...which was already in your list. More coffee now. OH! and don't forget Small Hillbornes!:-) and small quickbeams. They were 650B On Friday, February 1, 2013 9:31:24 AM UTC-8, William wrote: Small Sam Hillbornes are 650B On Friday, February 1, 2013 9:06:49 AM UTC-8, ted wrote: Saluki/Hilsen, hillborn, Betty, Bombadil. Any other RBW models that are/were 650B? On Feb 1, 11:57 am, Steve Palincsar palin...@his.com wrote: On Fri, 2013-02-01 at 08:55 -0800, Michael wrote: But there has never been a production 650b Ram? Orange, Blue, and Grren have always been 26 or 700c? No, never. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: How are you guys putting Hetres on Rambouillets???
700c Rams can be converted to 650b and then you can run the Hetres. The Tektro 73mm brakes are a little too short though so you can either file them down for more clearance or use v-brake pads which tend to give you the range needed. 700x28 and 650x42 are near enough to the same diameter that you don't have the issues with BB drop and you can mount fenders without all of the hassle of trying to get them to work with much bigger than 28s while working with 700c wheels. TToshi, who recently posted on the ram/ahh/roadeo differences has done a conversion recently. He seemed fairly happy with the conversion. I am planning to take on a conversion on my 56 Rambouillet sometime in the nearish future. On Thursday, January 31, 2013 9:56:51 PM UTC-8, Michael wrote: Two of you have posted that you have Hetres on Rams. But I thought Rams have fork clearance for 35mm wide tire, at most. And aren't Rams 26 or 700c wheels? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
