[RBW] Re: Hupe or Fender for saddlebag support (if it rides too low)?
For saddlebags of any size, I use the Nitto R-14 rack underneath. I have one Carradice Nelson longflap, two Carradice Camper longflap, and one of the huge Baggins bags that Rivendell used to sell, and they all fit well with that rack. Quite apart from stopping the bag sagging onto the tyre or mudguard, it prevents the bag rotating forwards and hitting the back of my legs, but and also prevents the bag from swaying, particularly when it's only partly full. Preventing bag sway noticeably improves the feel of the bike, particularly when you get out of the saddle. On Friday, 15 March 2013 11:34:36 UTC+11, Michael wrote: Was wondering if there is no prob with letting your saddlebag slouch on top of the rear fender. Or is it better to use something else like a Hupe? Mine only touches fender a little. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: Hupe or Fender for saddlebag support (if it rides too low)?
I don't know if I'm more impressed with the simple inginuity of your solution, or the artistry and composure of the snapshots. On Sunday, March 17, 2013 12:33:17 PM UTC-6, cyclot...@gmail.com wrote: You can make something out of a wire hanger if you're just trying to protect the bag from rubbing on the cable: http://www.flickr.com/photos/cyclotourist/5853075601/in/photostream/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/cyclotourist/5853624744/in/photostream/ Attach it to the seat stay braze-ons and good to go. Won't protect from rubbing on the fender/tire though. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: Hupe or Fender for saddlebag support (if it rides too low)?
Thanks, Bob! That's good enough for me to go ahead and try it. On Saturday, March 16, 2013 7:45:11 PM UTC-6, Robert Barr wrote: Keith, I bought a Wire Guard for the same reason you list. There was the potential for some cable rub on the small Saddlesack that I use on my Hunq. A top rack seemed overkill, and the Hupe didn't look like it would fit a small Saddlesack. I have only used the wire guard for 3 days, but I think it was the right choice. I don't see it rubbing the frame, whereas from the pictures I have seen it is easy to imagine the Hupe rubbing. Bob (Indianapolis) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: Hupe or Fender for saddlebag support (if it rides too low)?
You can make something out of a wire hanger if you're just trying to protect the bag from rubbing on the cable: http://www.flickr.com/photos/cyclotourist/5853075601/in/photostream/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/cyclotourist/5853624744/in/photostream/ Attach it to the seat stay braze-ons and good to go. Won't protect from rubbing on the fender/tire though. On Sun, Mar 17, 2013 at 10:54 AM, iamkeith keithhar...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks, Bob! That's good enough for me to go ahead and try it. On Saturday, March 16, 2013 7:45:11 PM UTC-6, Robert Barr wrote: Keith, I bought a Wire Guard for the same reason you list. There was the potential for some cable rub on the small Saddlesack that I use on my Hunq. A top rack seemed overkill, and the Hupe didn't look like it would fit a small Saddlesack. I have only used the wire guard for 3 days, but I think it was the right choice. I don't see it rubbing the frame, whereas from the pictures I have seen it is easy to imagine the Hupe rubbing. Bob (Indianapolis) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- Cheers, David Redlands, CA ** Censorship is telling a man he can't have a steak just because a baby can't chew it. -*Mark Twain* -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: Hupe or Fender for saddlebag support (if it rides too low)?
Actually look on the website, both the Bagman and SQR are rated to 20kg. On Friday, March 15, 2013 7:37:20 AM UTC-7, Patrick Moore wrote: The Bagman and the SQR are both rated for 10 kg, IIRC. Note too that the Bagman QR's QR less the wire support -- ie, just the part that clamps to the rails -- is also -- per Margaret at Carradice -- also rated at 10 kg. (At least, that's what she told me some years ago.) Me, I like the old French method of reinforced rear fenders -- or, if you will, minimalist racks integrated with the fender for just such support. On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 8:02 PM, James Chang lohe...@gmail.comjavascript: wrote: I love my bagman as well. It even looks pretty good on the bike without a saddle bag. Highly recommend it if you are not carrying too heavy of a load. James Chang On Fri, Mar 15, 2013 at 9:45 AM, Peter Morgano uscpet...@gmail.comjavascript: wrote: Bagman? I love mine but I don't think it can take as much weight as a marks rack since it hangs on saddle rails and all. On Mar 14, 2013 9:41 PM, Andy Smitty Schmidt 54c...@gmail.comjavascript: wrote: I too have a Hupe that sits unused. For me the problem was that if the saddlebag was anything but full... ie if the hupe was un-weighted... the hupe tended to move around and scratch the seat stays. I tried using zip ties to secure it without success. I think if I wanted to get another saddlebag support, I would go with something more like a real rack. Smitty On Thursday, March 14, 2013 5:34:36 PM UTC-7, Michael wrote: Was wondering if there is no prob with letting your saddlebag slouch on top of the rear fender. Or is it better to use something else like a Hupe? Mine only touches fender a little. Does anyone know if Riv still sells hupe's? I couldn't find it on their site. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com javascript:. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.comjavascript: . Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com javascript:. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.comjavascript: . Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- *** club sandwich, not seal *** -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com javascript:. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.comjavascript: . Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- __ BUSINESS BUILDING COME-ON!! $300 off a $600 resume + letter or Linked In profile package with referral that leads to full price sale! Refer two full-pay clients and you get the package for free! I am not cheap, but I am very good. So they say. Patrick Moore, Ph.D, MBA, ACRW, Albuquerque, NM, USA http://resumespecialties.com/index.html * patric...@resumespecialties.comjavascript: __ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: Hupe or Fender for saddlebag support (if it rides too low)?
No, 10 kg: http://www.carradice.co.uk/products/other/bagman http://www.carradice.co.uk/products/other/sqrclamp The Bagman now has seatstay struts, but the old, pre-strut model also was rated to 10 kg. I'd not want to put 20 kg (44 lb) in a saddlebag anyway! On Sat, Mar 16, 2013 at 8:45 AM, Kellie Stapleton kellie.staple...@gmail.com wrote: Actually look on the website, both the Bagman and SQR are rated to 20kg. On Friday, March 15, 2013 7:37:20 AM UTC-7, Patrick Moore wrote: The Bagman and the SQR are both rated for 10 kg, IIRC. Note too that the Bagman QR's QR less the wire support -- ie, just the part that clamps to the rails -- is also -- per Margaret at Carradice -- also rated at 10 kg. (At least, that's what she told me some years ago.) Me, I like the old French method of reinforced rear fenders -- or, if you will, minimalist racks integrated with the fender for just such support. On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 8:02 PM, James Chang lohe...@gmail.com wrote: I love my bagman as well. It even looks pretty good on the bike without a saddle bag. Highly recommend it if you are not carrying too heavy of a load. James Chang On Fri, Mar 15, 2013 at 9:45 AM, Peter Morgano uscpet...@gmail.comwrote: Bagman? I love mine but I don't think it can take as much weight as a marks rack since it hangs on saddle rails and all. On Mar 14, 2013 9:41 PM, Andy Smitty Schmidt 54c...@gmail.com wrote: I too have a Hupe that sits unused. For me the problem was that if the saddlebag was anything but full... ie if the hupe was un-weighted... the hupe tended to move around and scratch the seat stays. I tried using zip ties to secure it without success. I think if I wanted to get another saddlebag support, I would go with something more like a real rack. Smitty On Thursday, March 14, 2013 5:34:36 PM UTC-7, Michael wrote: Was wondering if there is no prob with letting your saddlebag slouch on top of the rear fender. Or is it better to use something else like a Hupe? Mine only touches fender a little. Does anyone know if Riv still sells hupe's? I couldn't find it on their site. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@**googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.**com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/** group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-**UShttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US . For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/**groups/opt_outhttps://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out . -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@**googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.**com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/** group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-**UShttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US . For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/**groups/opt_outhttps://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out . -- *** club sandwich, not seal *** -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@**googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.**com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/** group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-**UShttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US . For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/**groups/opt_outhttps://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out . -- __**__** __ BUSINESS BUILDING COME-ON!! $300 off a $600 resume + letter or Linked In profile package with referral that leads to full price sale! Refer two full-pay clients and you get the package for free! I am not cheap, but I am very good. So they say. Patrick Moore, Ph.D, MBA, ACRW, Albuquerque, NM, USA http://resumespecialties.com/**index.htmlhttp://resumespecialties.com/index.html* patric...@**resumespecialties.com __**__**__ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- __ BUSINESS
Re: [RBW] Re: Hupe or Fender for saddlebag support (if it rides too low)?
I have the strut model but they were wonky and a bit ugly. Luckily they come off clean and easy with a couple of m5 screws so I could put them back on if I feel the need. On Mar 16, 2013 11:00 AM, PATRICK MOORE bertin...@gmail.com wrote: No, 10 kg: http://www.carradice.co.uk/products/other/bagman http://www.carradice.co.uk/products/other/sqrclamp The Bagman now has seatstay struts, but the old, pre-strut model also was rated to 10 kg. I'd not want to put 20 kg (44 lb) in a saddlebag anyway! On Sat, Mar 16, 2013 at 8:45 AM, Kellie Stapleton kellie.staple...@gmail.com wrote: Actually look on the website, both the Bagman and SQR are rated to 20kg. On Friday, March 15, 2013 7:37:20 AM UTC-7, Patrick Moore wrote: The Bagman and the SQR are both rated for 10 kg, IIRC. Note too that the Bagman QR's QR less the wire support -- ie, just the part that clamps to the rails -- is also -- per Margaret at Carradice -- also rated at 10 kg. (At least, that's what she told me some years ago.) Me, I like the old French method of reinforced rear fenders -- or, if you will, minimalist racks integrated with the fender for just such support. On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 8:02 PM, James Chang lohe...@gmail.com wrote: I love my bagman as well. It even looks pretty good on the bike without a saddle bag. Highly recommend it if you are not carrying too heavy of a load. James Chang On Fri, Mar 15, 2013 at 9:45 AM, Peter Morgano uscpet...@gmail.comwrote: Bagman? I love mine but I don't think it can take as much weight as a marks rack since it hangs on saddle rails and all. On Mar 14, 2013 9:41 PM, Andy Smitty Schmidt 54c...@gmail.com wrote: I too have a Hupe that sits unused. For me the problem was that if the saddlebag was anything but full... ie if the hupe was un-weighted... the hupe tended to move around and scratch the seat stays. I tried using zip ties to secure it without success. I think if I wanted to get another saddlebag support, I would go with something more like a real rack. Smitty On Thursday, March 14, 2013 5:34:36 PM UTC-7, Michael wrote: Was wondering if there is no prob with letting your saddlebag slouch on top of the rear fender. Or is it better to use something else like a Hupe? Mine only touches fender a little. Does anyone know if Riv still sells hupe's? I couldn't find it on their site. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@**googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.**com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/** group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-**UShttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US . For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/**groups/opt_outhttps://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out . -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@**googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.**com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/** group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-**UShttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US . For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/**groups/opt_outhttps://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out . -- *** club sandwich, not seal *** -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@**googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.**com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/** group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-**UShttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US . For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/**groups/opt_outhttps://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out . -- __**__** __ BUSINESS BUILDING COME-ON!! $300 off a $600 resume + letter or Linked In profile package with referral that leads to full price sale! Refer two full-pay clients and you get the package for free! I am not cheap, but I am very good. So they say. Patrick Moore, Ph.D, MBA, ACRW, Albuquerque, NM, USA http://resumespecialties.com/**index.htmlhttp://resumespecialties.com/index.html* patric...@**resumespecialties.com __**__**__ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to
[RBW] Re: Hupe or Fender for saddlebag support (if it rides too low)?
I've got a couple of R10's that I'm not using, one needs hardware from rack eyelet, the other is complete. $50/$65 respectively. On Friday, March 15, 2013 1:27:34 PM UTC-7, dailyrandonneur wrote: Another option is the Nitto R-10 mini rear rack. It has been a really good setup for us on a couple of bikes, one in particular without rack mounts. Bens Cycle in Milwaukee has them. Ed Washington, DC -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: Hupe or Fender for saddlebag support (if it rides too low)?
Whoops, I stand corrected. I had done the lb. convertion and remembered the 20 part. Thanks. On Saturday, March 16, 2013 8:00:19 AM UTC-7, Patrick Moore wrote: No, 10 kg: http://www.carradice.co.uk/products/other/bagman http://www.carradice.co.uk/products/other/sqrclamp The Bagman now has seatstay struts, but the old, pre-strut model also was rated to 10 kg. I'd not want to put 20 kg (44 lb) in a saddlebag anyway! On Sat, Mar 16, 2013 at 8:45 AM, Kellie Stapleton kellie.s...@gmail.comjavascript: wrote: Actually look on the website, both the Bagman and SQR are rated to 20kg. On Friday, March 15, 2013 7:37:20 AM UTC-7, Patrick Moore wrote: The Bagman and the SQR are both rated for 10 kg, IIRC. Note too that the Bagman QR's QR less the wire support -- ie, just the part that clamps to the rails -- is also -- per Margaret at Carradice -- also rated at 10 kg. (At least, that's what she told me some years ago.) Me, I like the old French method of reinforced rear fenders -- or, if you will, minimalist racks integrated with the fender for just such support. On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 8:02 PM, James Chang lohe...@gmail.com wrote: I love my bagman as well. It even looks pretty good on the bike without a saddle bag. Highly recommend it if you are not carrying too heavy of a load. James Chang On Fri, Mar 15, 2013 at 9:45 AM, Peter Morgano uscpet...@gmail.comwrote: Bagman? I love mine but I don't think it can take as much weight as a marks rack since it hangs on saddle rails and all. On Mar 14, 2013 9:41 PM, Andy Smitty Schmidt 54c...@gmail.com wrote: I too have a Hupe that sits unused. For me the problem was that if the saddlebag was anything but full... ie if the hupe was un-weighted... the hupe tended to move around and scratch the seat stays. I tried using zip ties to secure it without success. I think if I wanted to get another saddlebag support, I would go with something more like a real rack. Smitty On Thursday, March 14, 2013 5:34:36 PM UTC-7, Michael wrote: Was wondering if there is no prob with letting your saddlebag slouch on top of the rear fender. Or is it better to use something else like a Hupe? Mine only touches fender a little. Does anyone know if Riv still sells hupe's? I couldn't find it on their site. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@**googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.**com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/** group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-**UShttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US . For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/**groups/opt_outhttps://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out . -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@**googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.**com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/** group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-**UShttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US . For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/**groups/opt_outhttps://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out . -- *** club sandwich, not seal *** -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@**googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.**com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/** group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-**UShttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US . For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/**groups/opt_outhttps://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out . -- __**__** __ BUSINESS BUILDING COME-ON!! $300 off a $600 resume + letter or Linked In profile package with referral that leads to full price sale! Refer two full-pay clients and you get the package for free! I am not cheap, but I am very good. So they say. Patrick Moore, Ph.D, MBA, ACRW, Albuquerque, NM, USA http://resumespecialties.com/**index.htmlhttp://resumespecialties.com/index.html* patric...@**resumespecialties.com __**__**__ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com javascript:. To post to this group, send email to
Re: [RBW] Re: Hupe or Fender for saddlebag support (if it rides too low)?
Keith, I bought a Wire Guard for the same reason you list. There was the potential for some cable rub on the small Saddlesack that I use on my Hunq. A top rack seemed overkill, and the Hupe didn't look like it would fit a small Saddlesack. I have only used the wire guard for 3 days, but I think it was the right choice. I don't see it rubbing the frame, whereas from the pictures I have seen it is easy to imagine the Hupe rubbing. Bob (Indianapolis) On Fri, Mar 15, 2013 at 4:13 PM, iamkeith keithhar...@gmail.com wrote: On Friday, March 15, 2013 10:18:30 AM UTC-6, iamkeith wrote: A comment and a question for those with experience: I'll reiterate the praise for the Bagman support, if you're looking for a horizontal support like the Hupe gave. I love mine, though I 've never tried the Hupe to compare it against. On the other hand, the key disadvantage (or *benefit*, depending on how you look at it) of both racks is that they'll rotate your bag backward and to a more vertical orientation. But for a current situation in which I want a more minimalist setup and want a Carradice bag to hang in the intended position (with the flap and reflector facing rearwards), I was just about to purchase a *Wire Guard.* I'm kind of surprised to see so many comments about the Hupe scratching the stays, though. Should I expect the same thing from the Wire Guard? (I don't have the fender clearance issues that the OP does - just cable interference/rub) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: Hupe or Fender for saddlebag support (if it rides too low)?
I love my bagman as well. It even looks pretty good on the bike without a saddle bag. Highly recommend it if you are not carrying too heavy of a load. James Chang On Fri, Mar 15, 2013 at 9:45 AM, Peter Morgano uscpeter11...@gmail.comwrote: Bagman? I love mine but I don't think it can take as much weight as a marks rack since it hangs on saddle rails and all. On Mar 14, 2013 9:41 PM, Andy Smitty Schmidt 54ca...@gmail.com wrote: I too have a Hupe that sits unused. For me the problem was that if the saddlebag was anything but full... ie if the hupe was un-weighted... the hupe tended to move around and scratch the seat stays. I tried using zip ties to secure it without success. I think if I wanted to get another saddlebag support, I would go with something more like a real rack. Smitty On Thursday, March 14, 2013 5:34:36 PM UTC-7, Michael wrote: Was wondering if there is no prob with letting your saddlebag slouch on top of the rear fender. Or is it better to use something else like a Hupe? Mine only touches fender a little. Does anyone know if Riv still sells hupe's? I couldn't find it on their site. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- *** club sandwich, not seal *** -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: Hupe or Fender for saddlebag support (if it rides too low)?
The Bagman and the SQR are both rated for 10 kg, IIRC. Note too that the Bagman QR's QR less the wire support -- ie, just the part that clamps to the rails -- is also -- per Margaret at Carradice -- also rated at 10 kg. (At least, that's what she told me some years ago.) Me, I like the old French method of reinforced rear fenders -- or, if you will, minimalist racks integrated with the fender for just such support. On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 8:02 PM, James Chang lohech...@gmail.com wrote: I love my bagman as well. It even looks pretty good on the bike without a saddle bag. Highly recommend it if you are not carrying too heavy of a load. James Chang On Fri, Mar 15, 2013 at 9:45 AM, Peter Morgano uscpeter11...@gmail.comwrote: Bagman? I love mine but I don't think it can take as much weight as a marks rack since it hangs on saddle rails and all. On Mar 14, 2013 9:41 PM, Andy Smitty Schmidt 54ca...@gmail.com wrote: I too have a Hupe that sits unused. For me the problem was that if the saddlebag was anything but full... ie if the hupe was un-weighted... the hupe tended to move around and scratch the seat stays. I tried using zip ties to secure it without success. I think if I wanted to get another saddlebag support, I would go with something more like a real rack. Smitty On Thursday, March 14, 2013 5:34:36 PM UTC-7, Michael wrote: Was wondering if there is no prob with letting your saddlebag slouch on top of the rear fender. Or is it better to use something else like a Hupe? Mine only touches fender a little. Does anyone know if Riv still sells hupe's? I couldn't find it on their site. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- *** club sandwich, not seal *** -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- __ BUSINESS BUILDING COME-ON!! $300 off a $600 resume + letter or Linked In profile package with referral that leads to full price sale! Refer two full-pay clients and you get the package for free! I am not cheap, but I am very good. So they say. Patrick Moore, Ph.D, MBA, ACRW, Albuquerque, NM, USA http://resumespecialties.com/index.html * patrickmo...@resumespecialties.com __ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Hupe or Fender for saddlebag support (if it rides too low)?
A comment and a question: I'll reiterate the praise for the Bagman support, if you're looking for a horizontal support like the Hupe gave. I love mine, though I 've never tried the Hupe to compare it against. On the other hand, the key disadvantage (or *benefit*, depending on how you look at it) of both racks is that they'll rotate your bag backward and to a more vertical orientation. But for a situation in which I want a more minimalist setup and in which I'd like a Carradice bag to hang in the intended position (with the flap and reflector facing rearwards), I was just about to purchase a Wire Guard. But I'm kind of surprised to see so many comments about the Hupe scratching the stays. Should I expect the same thing from the Wire Guard? (I don't have the fender clearance issues that the OP does - just cable interference/rub) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Hupe or Fender for saddlebag support (if it rides too low)?
I had good luck with the Hupe... I installed one, upside-down and secured with zip ties, on my GF's commuter (not a Riv) to hold up her SaddleSack small—and it works brilliantly. Maybe the upside-downness is the key? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Hupe or Fender for saddlebag support (if it rides too low)?
Ditto on the SQR. Cheap, light, and absolutely the fastest on-off of any system. Michael On Thursday, March 14, 2013 10:22:33 PM UTC-4, Kellie Stapleton wrote: I use a SQR Uplift rack sold by Carradice. I have a Barley bag but any bag can attach to it. On Thursday, March 14, 2013 5:34:36 PM UTC-7, Michael wrote: Was wondering if there is no prob with letting your saddlebag slouch on top of the rear fender. Or is it better to use something else like a Hupe? Mine only touches fender a little. Does anyone know if Riv still sells hupe's? I couldn't find it on their site. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Hupe or Fender for saddlebag support (if it rides too low)?
On Friday, March 15, 2013 10:18:30 AM UTC-6, iamkeith wrote: A comment and a question for those with experience: I'll reiterate the praise for the Bagman support, if you're looking for a horizontal support like the Hupe gave. I love mine, though I 've never tried the Hupe to compare it against. On the other hand, the key disadvantage (or *benefit*, depending on how you look at it) of both racks is that they'll rotate your bag backward and to a more vertical orientation. But for a current situation in which I want a more minimalist setup and want a Carradice bag to hang in the intended position (with the flap and reflector facing rearwards), I was just about to purchase a *Wire Guard.* I'm kind of surprised to see so many comments about the Hupe scratching the stays, though. Should I expect the same thing from the Wire Guard? (I don't have the fender clearance issues that the OP does - just cable interference/rub) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Hupe or Fender for saddlebag support (if it rides too low)?
Just a side note for folks with small frames: the seat stays/brake bridge will likely not have sufficient height clearance for the Hupe; at least mine don't. Which is a double drag because a little bike has less height for the bag as well. Mark's rack to the rescue. It's so adjustable that you can really get it low and tucked under the seat for a saddle bag support. -liesl -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Hupe or Fender for saddlebag support (if it rides too low)?
The hupes had a tendency to scratch the seat stays. If you want one I'd be willing to sell mine for cheap. It just hangs from my bike rack inside after I got some scratches on my then new Roadeo. I think it would depend on how much weight on the fender but for light loads it shouldn't compress the fender too much... Stephen On Thursday, March 14, 2013 5:34:36 PM UTC-7, Michael wrote: Was wondering if there is no prob with letting your saddlebag slouch on top of the rear fender. Or is it better to use something else like a Hupe? Mine only touches fender a little. Does anyone know if Riv still sells hupe's? I couldn't find it on their site. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Hupe or Fender for saddlebag support (if it rides too low)?
Depends on the weight, of course. I figured with the Country Bag, I would need some support. Mark's Rack was perfect. http://www.flickr.com/search/?w=93409214@N00q=mark%27s%20rack%20hilsen http://www.flickr.com/photos/cyclofiend/sets/72157603789184607/with/2216065423/ - Jim On Thursday, March 14, 2013 5:34:36 PM UTC-7, Michael wrote: Was wondering if there is no prob with letting your saddlebag slouch on top of the rear fender. Or is it better to use something else like a Hupe? Mine only touches fender a little. Does anyone know if Riv still sells hupe's? I couldn't find it on their site. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Hupe or Fender for saddlebag support (if it rides too low)?
I don't think resting a bag on a fender is a good idea. If it compresses the fender and locks the wheel on a downhill curve at 15mph, well...that could be bad. I also have a hupe for cheap if anyone wants it. It's fiddly and frame-scratchy and I'll never use it again. Joe Bernard Vallejo, CA. On Thursday, March 14, 2013 6:05:10 PM UTC-7, Cyclofiend Jim wrote: Depends on the weight, of course. I figured with the Country Bag, I would need some support. Mark's Rack was perfect. http://www.flickr.com/search/?w=93409214@N00q=mark%27s%20rack%20hilsen http://www.flickr.com/photos/cyclofiend/sets/72157603789184607/with/2216065423/ - Jim On Thursday, March 14, 2013 5:34:36 PM UTC-7, Michael wrote: Was wondering if there is no prob with letting your saddlebag slouch on top of the rear fender. Or is it better to use something else like a Hupe? Mine only touches fender a little. Does anyone know if Riv still sells hupe's? I couldn't find it on their site. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Hupe or Fender for saddlebag support (if it rides too low)?
I too have a Hupe that sits unused. For me the problem was that if the saddlebag was anything but full... ie if the hupe was un-weighted... the hupe tended to move around and scratch the seat stays. I tried using zip ties to secure it without success. I think if I wanted to get another saddlebag support, I would go with something more like a real rack. Smitty On Thursday, March 14, 2013 5:34:36 PM UTC-7, Michael wrote: Was wondering if there is no prob with letting your saddlebag slouch on top of the rear fender. Or is it better to use something else like a Hupe? Mine only touches fender a little. Does anyone know if Riv still sells hupe's? I couldn't find it on their site. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: Hupe or Fender for saddlebag support (if it rides too low)?
Bagman? I love mine but I don't think it can take as much weight as a marks rack since it hangs on saddle rails and all. On Mar 14, 2013 9:41 PM, Andy Smitty Schmidt 54ca...@gmail.com wrote: I too have a Hupe that sits unused. For me the problem was that if the saddlebag was anything but full... ie if the hupe was un-weighted... the hupe tended to move around and scratch the seat stays. I tried using zip ties to secure it without success. I think if I wanted to get another saddlebag support, I would go with something more like a real rack. Smitty On Thursday, March 14, 2013 5:34:36 PM UTC-7, Michael wrote: Was wondering if there is no prob with letting your saddlebag slouch on top of the rear fender. Or is it better to use something else like a Hupe? Mine only touches fender a little. Does anyone know if Riv still sells hupe's? I couldn't find it on their site. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Hupe or Fender for saddlebag support (if it rides too low)?
I use a SQR Uplift rack sold by Carradice. I have a Barley bag but any bag can attach to it. On Thursday, March 14, 2013 5:34:36 PM UTC-7, Michael wrote: Was wondering if there is no prob with letting your saddlebag slouch on top of the rear fender. Or is it better to use something else like a Hupe? Mine only touches fender a little. Does anyone know if Riv still sells hupe's? I couldn't find it on their site. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. attachment: barley.jpg
