Re: [RBW] Re: LBS Love...

2013-07-01 Thread Matt Beebe
+1 for Harris Cyclery.   Everyone there is great, and Elton and Susan 
have been especially helpful to me.




On Sunday, June 30, 2013 3:33:13 PM UTC-4, Jim wrote:

 Boston Area is lucky. We have Harris Cyclery. You could not ask for 
 better. Good people, good stock, good shop.Jim D.   
  Massachusetts

 On Sunday, June 30, 2013 9:06:24 AM UTC-4, EricP wrote:

 Another one who votes with his dollars at Hiawatha Cyclery.  Jim and Mark 
 are great.  Willing to put up with my strange needs.  Then again, they have 
 come up with some pretty strange and cool things themselves. 
  
 The Twin Cities does have a nice selection of bike shops that speak steel 
 bikes.  Doesn't hurt that QBP is located here.
 Eric Platt
 St. Paul, MN
  

 On Sun, Jun 30, 2013 at 6:36 AM, Edwin W dween...@hotmail.com wrote:

 Benji was amazing with price and ferrous with his time.

 That means he ironed things out while you spent time with him!

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Re: [RBW] Re: LBS Love...

2013-06-30 Thread Edwin W
Benji was amazing with price and ferrous with his time. 

That means he ironed things out while you spent time with him!

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Re: [RBW] Re: LBS Love...

2013-06-30 Thread justinaugust
Generous. Sunuvabitch autocorrect!

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Re: [RBW] Re: LBS Love...

2013-06-30 Thread Eric Platt
Another one who votes with his dollars at Hiawatha Cyclery.  Jim and Mark
are great.  Willing to put up with my strange needs.  Then again, they have
come up with some pretty strange and cool things themselves.

The Twin Cities does have a nice selection of bike shops that speak steel
bikes.  Doesn't hurt that QBP is located here.
Eric Platt
St. Paul, MN


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Re: [RBW] Re: LBS Love...

2013-06-30 Thread Jim
Boston Area is lucky. We have Harris Cyclery. You could not ask for better. 
Good people, good stock, good shop.Jim D.Massachusetts

On Sunday, June 30, 2013 9:06:24 AM UTC-4, EricP wrote:

 Another one who votes with his dollars at Hiawatha Cyclery.  Jim and Mark 
 are great.  Willing to put up with my strange needs.  Then again, they have 
 come up with some pretty strange and cool things themselves. 
  
 The Twin Cities does have a nice selection of bike shops that speak steel 
 bikes.  Doesn't hurt that QBP is located here.
 Eric Platt
 St. Paul, MN
  

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[RBW] Re: LBS Love...

2013-06-30 Thread dougP
Patrick:

I like to do my own stuff, and my Atlantis is built up fairly simply 
(standard Rivendell stuff) so I can fix it on tour, if needed.  In 10 
years, it's only been worked on once, for a new headset.  The shop was 
recommended by a friend  I'd gotten to know the guys before having any 
needs.  If you've found someplace where they appreciate what you've got  
are not puzzled by it (what kinda brakes are those?), they'll probably do 
just fine.  

dougP

On Friday, June 28, 2013 2:02:15 PM UTC-7, Deacon Patrick wrote:

 Broke a spoke (no idea how, but a loud sproing-crack troubadoured it's 
 presence on a fast descent (I may have hit something, but have no idea). 
 Rode the ten miles down to the LBS after cutting off the spoke at the 
 nipple.

 It was fascinating. This was the first time I'd had the Hunqapillar in my 
 LBS since receiving it last April, a little over a year ago. Every single 
 person, customers and employees, on the walk back to the work area 
 commented on how great and classic the bike is. One employee, after working 
 on it, lamented as I paid that They don't make them like that any more. 
 They do, actually. You just have to go to Rivendell to get it. This is 
 just over a year old. Stunned silence. Still not sure if that's where I 
 should go in the future, but at least this was the fairly simple job of 
 spoke and brake replacement.

 How do you all figure out where to take your Riv. for servicing? I've 
 already ruled out several shops that are closer or equidistant. There is 
 one I'm pretty sure would do a great job for another mile or so.

 With abandon,
 Patrick

 *www.MindYourHeadCoop.org*
 *www.OurHolyConception.org*
  


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Re: [RBW] Re: LBS Love...

2013-06-29 Thread Ron Mc
the formula for a bike shop is building a riding club around it, so you 
build a loyal client base.  This is where you hire young riders to run the 
weekend rides and sell bikes during the week.  Their technopassion sells, 
and they're the guys who make the dumb antique comments.  When I was a 
teenager, I thought 40 was almost dead.  

the formula for a fly-fishing shop is the shopping district in a tourist 
town, and devote at least 70% of the floor space to women's accessories.  

I could be a heck of a businessman if I didn't have so many ex-wives.  

On Friday, June 28, 2013 9:50:49 PM UTC-5, Peter M wrote:

 My lbs is awful, all of them. I am my own lbs, no shame in my game. 
 On Jun 28, 2013 10:38 PM, Michael john1...@gmail.com javascript: 
 wrote:

 I use the LBS I have always used. They seem to be able to take care of 
 everything I have needed. They have always respected my Bleriot and never 
 tried to sway me from steel bikes. In fact they even tried to help me know 
 what size bike to look for in steel since they knew I was into that, but 
 they don't sell them really.

  
 They have commented on how nice the Bleriot is and pretty it is. One guy 
 said Isn't that a Rivendell bike?
 They were nice after my accident and went over it 3 times to make sure 
 everything was ok - and it was.
 They rebuilt my rear wheel when I got in an accident. They actually have 
 a Velocity distributor. Though they were surprised when I told them it was 
 a 650b wheel.
  
 Some funny comments when at my LBS with my Bleriot I have heard:
 Oldie but a goodie, or something like that from a customer, and,
 Those are some FAT tires! when an ultracyclist customer sat on the 
 Bleriot and looked down at the Nifty Swiftys I had on there.
 Obsolete technology, about my Paul centerpulls.
  
  
  

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[RBW] Re: LBS Love...

2013-06-29 Thread Manuel Acosta
Wait you're suppose to work on your bikes? 
I thought they just fix themselves.


On Friday, June 28, 2013 7:48:20 PM UTC-7, jpp wrote:

 To be Honest this is near the exact story of how I discovered riv.  But I 
 was the shop employee and a guy brought in a Romulus to get some work done, 
 I was really stunned how he had kept this bike from the 70's or early 
 80's in such great shape.  When he picked it up a couple days later I said 
 how nice it was and asked how old it was and he said a little over a year 
 or something like that.  I went home and looked up Riv that night.

 On Friday, June 28, 2013 5:02:15 PM UTC-4, Deacon Patrick wrote:

 Broke a spoke (no idea how, but a loud sproing-crack troubadoured it's 
 presence on a fast descent (I may have hit something, but have no idea). 
 Rode the ten miles down to the LBS after cutting off the spoke at the 
 nipple.

 It was fascinating. This was the first time I'd had the Hunqapillar in my 
 LBS since receiving it last April, a little over a year ago. Every single 
 person, customers and employees, on the walk back to the work area 
 commented on how great and classic the bike is. One employee, after working 
 on it, lamented as I paid that They don't make them like that any more. 
 They do, actually. You just have to go to Rivendell to get it. This is 
 just over a year old. Stunned silence. Still not sure if that's where I 
 should go in the future, but at least this was the fairly simple job of 
 spoke and brake replacement.

 How do you all figure out where to take your Riv. for servicing? I've 
 already ruled out several shops that are closer or equidistant. There is 
 one I'm pretty sure would do a great job for another mile or so.

 With abandon,
 Patrick

 *www.MindYourHeadCoop.org*
 *www.OurHolyConception.org*
  


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[RBW] Re: LBS Love...

2013-06-29 Thread bwphoto
I've always done my own work mostly because I wanted to learn and I was 
cheap. However, I'm very lucky now to have Jim Thill's Hiawatha Cyclery 
within 6 miles it's also a great place to drop in and hang out for a while, 
Jim and Mark always have great tips. Before I discovered them and while I 
was rebuilding  my old Nishiki Pro I couldn't get the bottom bracket fixed 
cup loose so I took it to our local coop and all the mechanics fawned over 
it. 

Every city or town should have the equivilant of a Hiawatha Cyclery!

On Saturday, June 29, 2013 10:43:52 AM UTC-5, Manuel Acosta wrote:

 Wait you're suppose to work on your bikes? 
 I thought they just fix themselves.


 On Friday, June 28, 2013 7:48:20 PM UTC-7, jpp wrote:

 To be Honest this is near the exact story of how I discovered riv.  But I 
 was the shop employee and a guy brought in a Romulus to get some work done, 
 I was really stunned how he had kept this bike from the 70's or early 
 80's in such great shape.  When he picked it up a couple days later I said 
 how nice it was and asked how old it was and he said a little over a year 
 or something like that.  I went home and looked up Riv that night.

 On Friday, June 28, 2013 5:02:15 PM UTC-4, Deacon Patrick wrote:

 Broke a spoke (no idea how, but a loud sproing-crack troubadoured it's 
 presence on a fast descent (I may have hit something, but have no idea). 
 Rode the ten miles down to the LBS after cutting off the spoke at the 
 nipple.

 It was fascinating. This was the first time I'd had the Hunqapillar in 
 my LBS since receiving it last April, a little over a year ago. Every 
 single person, customers and employees, on the walk back to the work area 
 commented on how great and classic the bike is. One employee, after working 
 on it, lamented as I paid that They don't make them like that any more. 
 They do, actually. You just have to go to Rivendell to get it. This is 
 just over a year old. Stunned silence. Still not sure if that's where I 
 should go in the future, but at least this was the fairly simple job of 
 spoke and brake replacement.

 How do you all figure out where to take your Riv. for servicing? I've 
 already ruled out several shops that are closer or equidistant. There is 
 one I'm pretty sure would do a great job for another mile or so.

 With abandon,
 Patrick

 *www.MindYourHeadCoop.org*
 *www.OurHolyConception.org*
  


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[RBW] Re: LBS Love...

2013-06-29 Thread Ron Mc
and they have better tools than we can afford.  Photos of your Nishiki?  

On Saturday, June 29, 2013 11:11:17 AM UTC-5, bwphoto wrote:

 I've always done my own work mostly because I wanted to learn and I was 
 cheap. However, I'm very lucky now to have Jim Thill's Hiawatha Cyclery 
 within 6 miles it's also a great place to drop in and hang out for a while, 
 Jim and Mark always have great tips. Before I discovered them and while I 
 was rebuilding  my old Nishiki Pro I couldn't get the bottom bracket fixed 
 cup loose so I took it to our local coop and all the mechanics fawned over 
 it. 




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[RBW] Re: LBS Love...

2013-06-29 Thread Deacon Patrick
The bike rides like it did pre spoke breakage, so that's a grand sign! I'd 
love to do more of my own work (I did 90% of my own work before my 
bludgeoned brain), but the price I pay in brain energy (far too limited for 
me) to do fine motor skills is simply not worth it. I'd rather spend time 
with my wife and kids than spend a few hours working on my bike and then 
needing a day or two to recover. So anything beyond a tire/tube change or 
patch or brake adjustment and I need a quality shop to work on it. Time 
will tell which shop I frequent. None of the local shops are at the level 
I'd like, so I'll ferret out which is the best option available. and then 
stick with them.

With abandon,
Patrick

On Friday, June 28, 2013 3:02:15 PM UTC-6, Deacon Patrick wrote:

 Broke a spoke (no idea how, but a loud sproing-crack troubadoured it's 
 presence on a fast descent (I may have hit something, but have no idea). 
 Rode the ten miles down to the LBS after cutting off the spoke at the 
 nipple.

 It was fascinating. This was the first time I'd had the Hunqapillar in my 
 LBS since receiving it last April, a little over a year ago. Every single 
 person, customers and employees, on the walk back to the work area 
 commented on how great and classic the bike is. One employee, after working 
 on it, lamented as I paid that They don't make them like that any more. 
 They do, actually. You just have to go to Rivendell to get it. This is 
 just over a year old. Stunned silence. Still not sure if that's where I 
 should go in the future, but at least this was the fairly simple job of 
 spoke and brake replacement.

 How do you all figure out where to take your Riv. for servicing? I've 
 already ruled out several shops that are closer or equidistant. There is 
 one I'm pretty sure would do a great job for another mile or so.

 With abandon,
 Patrick

 *www.MindYourHeadCoop.org*
 *www.OurHolyConception.org*
  


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Re: [RBW] Re: LBS Love...

2013-06-29 Thread cyclotourist
I do all my own work so far, so rarely need a shop. Every now and then
I special-order parts, but try not to. I used to go out of my way to
order through the LBS, but have pretty much given up on that.
Invariably the part that arrived would be different from the one that
arrived, even if I provided an up to date catalog part # (QBP or JB).
That's if they arrived at all. Nice employees at both of them, but I
think my weird part requests are a pretty low priority for them. I
understand minimum orders and all that, so don't begrudge them too
much.

Jenson USA is a pretty big internet retailer, and about 4 miles from
my work, so I use their will-call for most parts now. Good people as
well, very into the local MTB community.

On 6/29/13, Deacon Patrick lamontg...@mac.com wrote:
 The bike rides like it did pre spoke breakage, so that's a grand sign! I'd
 love to do more of my own work (I did 90% of my own work before my
 bludgeoned brain), but the price I pay in brain energy (far too limited for

 me) to do fine motor skills is simply not worth it. I'd rather spend time
 with my wife and kids than spend a few hours working on my bike and then
 needing a day or two to recover. So anything beyond a tire/tube change or
 patch or brake adjustment and I need a quality shop to work on it. Time
 will tell which shop I frequent. None of the local shops are at the level
 I'd like, so I'll ferret out which is the best option available. and then
 stick with them.

 With abandon,
 Patrick

 On Friday, June 28, 2013 3:02:15 PM UTC-6, Deacon Patrick wrote:

 Broke a spoke (no idea how, but a loud sproing-crack troubadoured it's
 presence on a fast descent (I may have hit something, but have no idea).
 Rode the ten miles down to the LBS after cutting off the spoke at the
 nipple.

 It was fascinating. This was the first time I'd had the Hunqapillar in my

 LBS since receiving it last April, a little over a year ago. Every single

 person, customers and employees, on the walk back to the work area
 commented on how great and classic the bike is. One employee, after
 working
 on it, lamented as I paid that They don't make them like that any more.

 They do, actually. You just have to go to Rivendell to get it. This is
 just over a year old. Stunned silence. Still not sure if that's where I
 should go in the future, but at least this was the fairly simple job of
 spoke and brake replacement.

 How do you all figure out where to take your Riv. for servicing? I've
 already ruled out several shops that are closer or equidistant. There is
 one I'm pretty sure would do a great job for another mile or so.

 With abandon,
 Patrick

 *www.MindYourHeadCoop.org*
 *www.OurHolyConception.org*



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Re: [RBW] Re: LBS Love...

2013-06-29 Thread justinaugust
When I first got back into cycling I had next to 0 dollars. I was lucky to have 
the (late) great Refried Cycles two blocks from me I. The Lower Haight. Benji 
was amazing with price and ferrous of his time. He introduced me to Sir Sheldon 
and would let my brother and I watch him do all the repairs so we could learn 
how to do it on our own. I ordered many parts via him, until I moved across the 
Bay, he moved to the Castro and eventually to Chico and I headed to Philly. I 
have found a few other shops that have parts of that experience but nothing 
with the whole package. Truly a unique LBS. 

-J

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[RBW] Re: LBS Love...

2013-06-28 Thread Ron Mc
local bike shops are great, especially the mechanics.  They always love 
classic steel bikes.  

On Friday, June 28, 2013 4:02:15 PM UTC-5, Deacon Patrick wrote:

 Broke a spoke (no idea how, but a loud sproing-crack troubadoured it's 
 presence on a fast descent (I may have hit something, but have no idea). 
 Rode the ten miles down to the LBS after cutting off the spoke at the 
 nipple.

 It was fascinating. This was the first time I'd had the Hunqapillar in my 
 LBS since receiving it last April, a little over a year ago. Every single 
 person, customers and employees, on the walk back to the work area 
 commented on how great and classic the bike is. One employee, after working 
 on it, lamented as I paid that They don't make them like that any more. 
 They do, actually. You just have to go to Rivendell to get it. This is 
 just over a year old. Stunned silence. Still not sure if that's where I 
 should go in the future, but at least this was the fairly simple job of 
 spoke and brake replacement.

 How do you all figure out where to take your Riv. for servicing? I've 
 already ruled out several shops that are closer or equidistant. There is 
 one I'm pretty sure would do a great job for another mile or so.

 With abandon,
 Patrick

 *www.MindYourHeadCoop.org*
 *www.OurHolyConception.org*
  


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[RBW] Re: LBS Love...

2013-06-28 Thread jpp
To be Honest this is near the exact story of how I discovered riv.  But I 
was the shop employee and a guy brought in a Romulus to get some work done, 
I was really stunned how he had kept this bike from the 70's or early 
80's in such great shape.  When he picked it up a couple days later I said 
how nice it was and asked how old it was and he said a little over a year 
or something like that.  I went home and looked up Riv that night.

On Friday, June 28, 2013 5:02:15 PM UTC-4, Deacon Patrick wrote:

 Broke a spoke (no idea how, but a loud sproing-crack troubadoured it's 
 presence on a fast descent (I may have hit something, but have no idea). 
 Rode the ten miles down to the LBS after cutting off the spoke at the 
 nipple.

 It was fascinating. This was the first time I'd had the Hunqapillar in my 
 LBS since receiving it last April, a little over a year ago. Every single 
 person, customers and employees, on the walk back to the work area 
 commented on how great and classic the bike is. One employee, after working 
 on it, lamented as I paid that They don't make them like that any more. 
 They do, actually. You just have to go to Rivendell to get it. This is 
 just over a year old. Stunned silence. Still not sure if that's where I 
 should go in the future, but at least this was the fairly simple job of 
 spoke and brake replacement.

 How do you all figure out where to take your Riv. for servicing? I've 
 already ruled out several shops that are closer or equidistant. There is 
 one I'm pretty sure would do a great job for another mile or so.

 With abandon,
 Patrick

 *www.MindYourHeadCoop.org*
 *www.OurHolyConception.org*
  


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Re: [RBW] Re: LBS Love...

2013-06-28 Thread Peter Morgano
My lbs is awful, all of them. I am my own lbs, no shame in my game.
On Jun 28, 2013 10:38 PM, Michael john11.2...@gmail.com wrote:

 I use the LBS I have always used. They seem to be able to take care of
 everything I have needed. They have always respected my Bleriot and never
 tried to sway me from steel bikes. In fact they even tried to help me know
 what size bike to look for in steel since they knew I was into that, but
 they don't sell them really.


 They have commented on how nice the Bleriot is and pretty it is. One guy
 said Isn't that a Rivendell bike?
 They were nice after my accident and went over it 3 times to make sure
 everything was ok - and it was.
 They rebuilt my rear wheel when I got in an accident. They actually have a
 Velocity distributor. Though they were surprised when I told them it was a
 650b wheel.

 Some funny comments when at my LBS with my Bleriot I have heard:
 Oldie but a goodie, or something like that from a customer, and,
 Those are some FAT tires! when an ultracyclist customer sat on the
 Bleriot and looked down at the Nifty Swiftys I had on there.
 Obsolete technology, about my Paul centerpulls.




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