[RBW] Re: New Frame Day - Rivendell Mixte "Cargo" bike

[☆ Paul ☆]

Hi Laing,

Just want to say — that frame is BEAUTIFUL and I love the rack up front. 

Can't wait to se this bike all finished. 

Awesome!

Paul



On Thursday, September 3, 2020 at 8:17:50 AM UTC-4, lconley wrote:
>
> Last March Grant had this frame on the Blahg and I knew that I had to have 
> it, so I pestered Riv until they sold it to me. I consider it to be a true 
> mixte - low twin top tubes. My plans are to make it my commuter bike with 
> an extra huge Wald 157 giant delivery basket on the front rack. I already 
> have 650B 48 spoke polished Cliffhanger rims, SON Classic front dyno hub, 
> NOS Sanshin large flange tandem rear hub with NOS Suntour 7 speed 
> Freewheel, Shimano Altus M310 RD,  Wavie bars on my Nitto stem with double 
> clamp bolts, Brooks B68 aged saddle. I had Riv install an IRD NeedL BlastR 
> headset with the lower roller bearings - that head tube is too long for my 
> headset press. I also have an NOS Vetta locking rear rack box (in orange) 
> that may find its way onto a rear rack.
>
> Rivendell wouldn't put a Rivendell headbadge or decals on it because it 
> does not have a Joe Bell paint job, so I opted for a Rosco Headbadge with 
> no decals. As for decals - I still have the decal letter set that Riv 
> included upon request with the first batch of Clementines, so who knows.  
> Maybe I should have asked for a Platypus headbadge?
>
> So here it is:
>
> [image: IMG_0683.jpg]
>
> [image: IMG_0684.jpg]
>
> Laing
> Delray Beach FL
>
>
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: New Frame Day - Rivendell Mixte "Cargo" bike

[Paul M]

Good to see this frame reappear after Grant's posting several months ago. I 
was very intrigued by it. What is the headtube length out of curiosity.  
Thanks.

On Tuesday, 8 September 2020 at 10:24:04 UTC-7 lconley wrote:

> Yes, especially on Rivs which have longer threaded sections on the fork, 
> due to the extension of the steerer above the headset. I hold the stem up 
> to the bike to see where it must be to get the wedge below the headset. 
> Usually need to drop the stem another 1/4" to 1/2" below the minimum 
> insertion line.
>
> Laing
>
>
> On Tuesday, September 8, 2020 at 1:12:55 PM UTC-4, jbu...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Nice bike/build, Laing. 
>>
>> Just a reminder to be careful with shorter-quill stems, that the wedge 
>> isn't landing in the threaded portion of the steerer. 
>>
>> =- Joe Bunik 
>> Walnut Creek, CA 
>>
>> On 9/8/20, lconley  wrote: 
>> > [image: IMG_0686.jpg] 
>> > 
>> > Sorry for the sideways picture. This shows the rack bolted to the 
>> headtube 
>> > mounts. 
>> > 
>> > Note the twin clamp bolts on the Nitto Stem. Bought this years ago from 
>> > Rivendell and this seem to be the perfect application for it, it 
>> doesn't 
>> > have a lot of stem height, but this frame has such a tall head tube, I 
>> > don't need a really tall stem. 
>> > 
>> > Laing 
>> > 
>> > 
>> > On Friday, September 4, 2020 at 9:16:20 AM UTC-4, Steven Sweedler 
>> wrote: 
>> >> 
>> >> Laing, could you post a close up picture of how the rack attaches at 
>> the 
>> >> headtube, Thanks, Steve 
>> >> 
>> >> 
>> >> 
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Re: [RBW] Re: New Frame Day - Rivendell Mixte "Cargo" bike

[lconley]

Yes, especially on Rivs which have longer threaded sections on the fork, 
due to the extension of the steerer above the headset. I hold the stem up 
to the bike to see where it must be to get the wedge below the headset. 
Usually need to drop the stem another 1/4" to 1/2" below the minimum 
insertion line.

Laing

On Tuesday, September 8, 2020 at 1:12:55 PM UTC-4, jbu...@gmail.com wrote:

> Nice bike/build, Laing. 
>
> Just a reminder to be careful with shorter-quill stems, that the wedge 
> isn't landing in the threaded portion of the steerer. 
>
> =- Joe Bunik 
> Walnut Creek, CA 
>
> On 9/8/20, lconley > wrote: 
> > [image: IMG_0686.jpg] 
> > 
> > Sorry for the sideways picture. This shows the rack bolted to the 
> headtube 
> > mounts. 
> > 
> > Note the twin clamp bolts on the Nitto Stem. Bought this years ago from 
> > Rivendell and this seem to be the perfect application for it, it doesn't 
> > have a lot of stem height, but this frame has such a tall head tube, I 
> > don't need a really tall stem. 
> > 
> > Laing 
> > 
> > 
> > On Friday, September 4, 2020 at 9:16:20 AM UTC-4, Steven Sweedler wrote: 
> >> 
> >> Laing, could you post a close up picture of how the rack attaches at 
> the 
> >> headtube, Thanks, Steve 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> 
> > 
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Re: [RBW] Re: New Frame Day - Rivendell Mixte "Cargo" bike

[Joe Bunik]

Nice bike/build, Laing.

Just a reminder to be careful with shorter-quill stems, that the wedge
isn't landing in the threaded portion of the steerer.

=- Joe Bunik
Walnut Creek, CA

On 9/8/20, lconley  wrote:
> [image: IMG_0686.jpg]
>
> Sorry for the sideways picture. This shows the rack bolted to the headtube
> mounts.
>
> Note the twin clamp bolts on the Nitto Stem. Bought this years ago from
> Rivendell and this seem to be the perfect application for it, it doesn't
> have a lot of stem height, but this frame has such a tall head tube, I
> don't need a really tall stem.
>
> Laing
>
>
> On Friday, September 4, 2020 at 9:16:20 AM UTC-4, Steven Sweedler wrote:
>>
>> Laing, could you post a close up picture of how the rack attaches at the
>> headtube, Thanks, Steve
>>
>>
>>
>
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[RBW] Re: New Frame Day - Rivendell Mixte "Cargo" bike

['Deacon Patrick' via RBW Owners Bunch]

I imagine the swoop of the top tube matches the golden curve. It is 
beautiful. Let us know how it rides with a load!

With abandon,
Patrick

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[RBW] Re: New Frame Day - Rivendell Mixte "Cargo" bike

[Rocky B]

Sounds like its going to be a perfect fit for you!  Cant wait to see the 
finished build.  Such a cool, cool bike!

On Friday, September 4, 2020 at 7:33:03 AM UTC-5 lconley wrote:

> I finished building the wheels for my Riv custom, so I decided to try them 
 on the Cargo bike to see how big of a tire I might be able to fit. The 
 tires are 650B x 48 Switchback Hills on Velocity Quill rims and there is 
 plenty of room to go bigger. the limitation is the width between the 
 chainstays. In the Blagh, Grant said it was designed for 2.2s and that is 
 what I will try first. If I have the correct spokes, and I think I do, I 
 am 
 planning on building the wheels for the Cargo this weekend if I don't get 
 too involved with trying different handlebar/stem setups on the Custom.

>>>
> [image: IMG_0685.jpg]
>  
>
> The Cargo frame is kind of the max size I can ride - the actual seatpost 
> that I use will be very short - the seat will be just above the frame - 
> very little seatpost showing, that is good because the handlebars will be 
> nice and high without a lot of stem, As close as I can measure, the ST is 
> 24" center to top and the effective TT is about 23"-23.5" center to center 
> - I like long top tubes which is why I like step-thru frames - I can 
> oversize the frame to get the longer effective top tube.
>
> [image: Seat post.JPG]
>
> Laing
> Delray Beach FL
>  
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: New Frame Day - Rivendell Mixte "Cargo" bike

['Je Mar' via RBW Owners Bunch]

That is cool as heck. Congrats. 

On Friday, September 4, 2020 at 9:41:10 AM UTC-4 lconley wrote:

> This is from the Blahg that shows the four mounting points on the head 
> tube. Basically they used the Clem head tube "napkin rings" and mounted the 
> rack mounting points to the napkin rings:
>
> [image: XK_frame_head_tubex_2048x2048.jpg]
>
> [image: XK_fork_crownx_2048x2048.jpg]
>
>
> Also from the Blahg - the rack and its four mounting points:
>
> [image: xk_rackxr_2048x2048.jpg]
>
> I can take some more pictures this weekend that show the rack mounted to 
> the bike.
>
> Laing
>
>
>
> On Friday, September 4, 2020 at 9:16:20 AM UTC-4, Steven Sweedler wrote:
>
>> Laing, could you post a close up picture of how the rack attaches at the 
>> headtube, Thanks, Steve
>>
> On Fri, Sep 4, 2020 at 8:33 AM lconley  wrote:
>>
> I finished building the wheels for my Riv custom, so I decided to try them 
>> on the Cargo bike to see how big of a tire I might be able to fit. The 
>> tires are 650B x 48 Switchback Hills on Velocity Quill rims and there is 
>> plenty of room to go bigger. the limitation is the width between the 
>> chainstays. In the Blagh, Grant said it was designed for 2.2s and that 
>> is 
>> what I will try first. If I have the correct spokes, and I think I do, I 
>> am 
>> planning on building the wheels for the Cargo this weekend if I don't 
>> get 
>> too involved with trying different handlebar/stem setups on the Custom.
>>
>
>>> [image: IMG_0685.jpg]
>>>  
>>>
>>> The Cargo frame is kind of the max size I can ride - the actual seatpost 
>>> that I use will be very short - the seat will be just above the frame - 
>>> very little seatpost showing, that is good because the handlebars will be 
>>> nice and high without a lot of stem, As close as I can measure, the ST is 
>>> 24" center to top and the effective TT is about 23"-23.5" center to center 
>>> - I like long top tubes which is why I like step-thru frames - I can 
>>> oversize the frame to get the longer effective top tube.
>>>
>>> [image: Seat post.JPG]
>>>
>>> Laing
>>> Delray Beach FL
>>>  
>>>
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[RBW] Re: New Frame Day - Rivendell Mixte "Cargo" bike

[lconley]

No, this was a Grant designed custom built by Nobilette for Kevin, a former 
Riv employee, several years ago that evidently didn't get built exactly as 
intended. Earlier this year, Riv sent it to Taiwan to get standard Riv 
paint and then sold it to me.

Laing

On Thursday, September 3, 2020 at 12:00:12 PM UTC-4, Roberta wrote:

> Was this to be the original Anniversary bike?
>
> It's LOVELY.  Happy hauling!
>
> Roberta
>
>
>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: New Frame Day - Rivendell Mixte "Cargo" bike

[Roberta]

Was this to be the original Anniversary bike?

It's LOVELY.  Happy hauling!

Roberta

On Thursday, September 3, 2020 at 8:17:50 AM UTC-4, lconley wrote:
>
> Last March Grant had this frame on the Blahg and I knew that I had to have 
> it, so I pestered Riv until they sold it to me. I consider it to be a true 
> mixte - low twin top tubes. My plans are to make it my commuter bike with 
> an extra huge Wald 157 giant delivery basket on the front rack. I already 
> have 650B 48 spoke polished Cliffhanger rims, SON Classic front dyno hub, 
> NOS Sanshin large flange tandem rear hub with NOS Suntour 7 speed 
> Freewheel, Shimano Altus M310 RD,  Wavie bars on my Nitto stem with double 
> clamp bolts, Brooks B68 aged saddle. I had Riv install an IRD NeedL BlastR 
> headset with the lower roller bearings - that head tube is too long for my 
> headset press. I also have an NOS Vetta locking rear rack box (in orange) 
> that may find its way onto a rear rack.
>
> Rivendell wouldn't put a Rivendell headbadge or decals on it because it 
> does not have a Joe Bell paint job, so I opted for a Rosco Headbadge with 
> no decals. As for decals - I still have the decal letter set that Riv 
> included upon request with the first batch of Clementines, so who knows.  
> Maybe I should have asked for a Platypus headbadge?
>
> So here it is:
>
> [image: IMG_0683.jpg]
>
> [image: IMG_0684.jpg]
>
> Laing
> Delray Beach FL
>
>
>

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[RBW] Re: New Frame Day - Rivendell Mixte "Cargo" bike

[Alex Wirth- Owner, Yellow Haus Bicycles]

So cool!!

I hope they do a cargo-specific design some day...

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[RBW] Re: New Frame Day - Rivendell Mixte "Cargo" bike

[lconley]

Rear rack would only be for Vetta Box, not a big load.

[image: Capture.JPG]

Laing


On Thursday, September 3, 2020 at 9:43:57 AM UTC-4, Kainalu V. -Brooklyn NY 
wrote:

> Super cool. You're putting a rear rack on it? I wonder how it would feel 
> with a heavy load up front and in back? I put some ridiculously heavy loads 
> on the front of my "mixtes" (one having been Marty's in the past!) avoiding 
> the addition of rear loads for fear of frame waggle and what that might 
> mean for structural longevity. I'm curious how the twin tubes do in that 
> regard. Seems, as they are outboard of the center line that they'd do much 
> better than a centered single tube. One thing's for absolutely sure, they 
> look stunning!
> Enjoy it
> -Kai
>
>
> On Thursday, September 3, 2020 at 8:17:50 AM UTC-4, lconley wrote:
>>
>> Last March Grant had this frame on the Blahg and I knew that I had to 
>> have it, so I pestered Riv until they sold it to me. I consider it to be a 
>> true mixte - low twin top tubes. My plans are to make it my commuter 
>> bike with an extra huge Wald 157 giant delivery basket on the front rack. I 
>> already have 650B 48 spoke polished Cliffhanger rims, SON Classic front 
>> dyno hub, NOS Sanshin large flange tandem rear hub with NOS Suntour 7 speed 
>> Freewheel, Shimano Altus M310 RD,  Wavie bars on my Nitto stem with double 
>> clamp bolts, Brooks B68 aged saddle. I had Riv install an IRD NeedL BlastR 
>> headset with the lower roller bearings - that head tube is too long for my 
>> headset press. I also have an NOS Vetta locking rear rack box (in orange) 
>> that may find its way onto a rear rack.
>>
>> Rivendell wouldn't put a Rivendell headbadge or decals on it because it 
>> does not have a Joe Bell paint job, so I opted for a Rosco Headbadge with 
>> no decals. As for decals - I still have the decal letter set that Riv 
>> included upon request with the first batch of Clementines, so who knows.  
>> Maybe I should have asked for a Platypus headbadge?
>>
>> So here it is:
>>
>> [image: IMG_0683.jpg]
>>
>> [image: IMG_0684.jpg]
>>
>> Laing
>> Delray Beach FL
>>
>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: New Frame Day - Rivendell Mixte "Cargo" bike

[lconley]

Go Gators.

UF graduate.

On Thursday, September 3, 2020 at 9:45:08 AM UTC-4, Kainalu V. -Brooklyn NY 
wrote:

> P.S.- Knicks fan?
>
>
>>
>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: New Frame Day - Rivendell Mixte "Cargo" bike

[Kainalu V. -Brooklyn NY]

P.S.- Knicks fan?


On Thursday, September 3, 2020 at 8:17:50 AM UTC-4, lconley wrote:
>
> Last March Grant had this frame on the Blahg and I knew that I had to have 
> it, so I pestered Riv until they sold it to me. I consider it to be a true 
> mixte - low twin top tubes. My plans are to make it my commuter bike with 
> an extra huge Wald 157 giant delivery basket on the front rack. I already 
> have 650B 48 spoke polished Cliffhanger rims, SON Classic front dyno hub, 
> NOS Sanshin large flange tandem rear hub with NOS Suntour 7 speed 
> Freewheel, Shimano Altus M310 RD,  Wavie bars on my Nitto stem with double 
> clamp bolts, Brooks B68 aged saddle. I had Riv install an IRD NeedL BlastR 
> headset with the lower roller bearings - that head tube is too long for my 
> headset press. I also have an NOS Vetta locking rear rack box (in orange) 
> that may find its way onto a rear rack.
>
> Rivendell wouldn't put a Rivendell headbadge or decals on it because it 
> does not have a Joe Bell paint job, so I opted for a Rosco Headbadge with 
> no decals. As for decals - I still have the decal letter set that Riv 
> included upon request with the first batch of Clementines, so who knows.  
> Maybe I should have asked for a Platypus headbadge?
>
> So here it is:
>
> [image: IMG_0683.jpg]
>
> [image: IMG_0684.jpg]
>
> Laing
> Delray Beach FL
>
>
>

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[RBW] Re: New Frame Day - Rivendell Mixte "Cargo" bike

[Kainalu V. -Brooklyn NY]

Super cool. You're putting a rear rack on it? I wonder how it would feel 
with a heavy load up front and in back? I put some ridiculously heavy loads 
on the front of my "mixtes" (one having been Marty's in the past!) avoiding 
the addition of rear loads for fear of frame waggle and what that might 
mean for structural longevity. I'm curious how the twin tubes do in that 
regard. Seems, as they are outboard of the center line that they'd do much 
better than a centered single tube. One thing's for absolutely sure, they 
look stunning!
Enjoy it
-Kai


On Thursday, September 3, 2020 at 8:17:50 AM UTC-4, lconley wrote:
>
> Last March Grant had this frame on the Blahg and I knew that I had to have 
> it, so I pestered Riv until they sold it to me. I consider it to be a true 
> mixte - low twin top tubes. My plans are to make it my commuter bike with 
> an extra huge Wald 157 giant delivery basket on the front rack. I already 
> have 650B 48 spoke polished Cliffhanger rims, SON Classic front dyno hub, 
> NOS Sanshin large flange tandem rear hub with NOS Suntour 7 speed 
> Freewheel, Shimano Altus M310 RD,  Wavie bars on my Nitto stem with double 
> clamp bolts, Brooks B68 aged saddle. I had Riv install an IRD NeedL BlastR 
> headset with the lower roller bearings - that head tube is too long for my 
> headset press. I also have an NOS Vetta locking rear rack box (in orange) 
> that may find its way onto a rear rack.
>
> Rivendell wouldn't put a Rivendell headbadge or decals on it because it 
> does not have a Joe Bell paint job, so I opted for a Rosco Headbadge with 
> no decals. As for decals - I still have the decal letter set that Riv 
> included upon request with the first batch of Clementines, so who knows.  
> Maybe I should have asked for a Platypus headbadge?
>
> So here it is:
>
> [image: IMG_0683.jpg]
>
> [image: IMG_0684.jpg]
>
> Laing
> Delray Beach FL
>
>
>

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[RBW] Re: New Frame Day - Rivendell Mixte "Cargo" bike

[Marty Gierke, Stewartstown PA]

Last March Grant had this frame on the Blahg and I knew that I had to have 
> it, so I pestered Riv until they sold it to me. 
>

This is one to watch! Really interesting one-of-one frame. Cool factor X11! 

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