[RBW] Re: Questions on Carradice Barley
I found the Barley too small for day rides and went with the Pendle. For both bags I inserted hard plastic backing to help them maintain their shape (cut from cat litter tubs). For both sprung and unsprung saddles, a Midlands bag support at $7.00 works great and keeps them from swaying, plus prevents them rubbing up against the backs of my thighs. I love the looks of the Carradice, but I wish they had different fasteners than the traditional buckles. They can be cumbersome, especially in winter when wearing a pair of gloves. On Apr 17, 11:59 pm, charlie cl_v...@hotmail.com wrote: Thought of Barley until I purchased a Nelson Longflap...and glad I did. The Barley would be too small except in ideal weather (for me) In the summer I use a Banana bag for tools,tube, wallet and phone but in the rainy Northwest I need capacity for rain gear and a change of clothing etc. for the other nine months of the year. I imagine a Barley would be a nice bag to leave on all year with perhaps another (maybe a front bag) to supplement. I rack my Nelson now and am in the process of building a spartan rack / bag support / light mount. This rack will be made with the idea of adding and extension piece for a full rack when I want to camp or whatever. Still working on the design...with bags more is better when you actually want to carry stuff. When you go big you find stuff to carry that you might actually need or want to make cycling more enjoyable and less of a stranded in the middle of nowhere without what you need athletic event. ; ) On Apr 17, 2:36 pm, Peter M uscpeter11...@gmail.com wrote: Thinking of getting a Carradice Barley saddlebag but wanted to ask if anyone here is running one currently and how they like it. Also do you need a bag support with this thing like the now discontinued Hupe, and will it work with a sprung Brooks like the B72? Thanks to any help anyone can offer. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Questions on Carradice Barley
Another vote for the barley being a tad small.Good bag, but other than tools/spare tube and a sweater you're not fitting much in there. For Carradice, my faves are the camper and camper longflap.BUT you should take a long hard look at a Saddlesack Medium or Large. Those bags combined with a nitto top rack are ridiculously useful and well designed. -Matt On Wednesday, April 18, 2012 6:44:58 AM UTC-4, doc wrote: I found the Barley too small for day rides and went with the Pendle. For both bags I inserted hard plastic backing to help them maintain their shape (cut from cat litter tubs). For both sprung and unsprung saddles, a Midlands bag support at $7.00 works great and keeps them from swaying, plus prevents them rubbing up against the backs of my thighs. I love the looks of the Carradice, but I wish they had different fasteners than the traditional buckles. They can be cumbersome, especially in winter when wearing a pair of gloves. On Apr 17, 11:59 pm, charlie cl_v...@hotmail.com wrote: Thought of Barley until I purchased a Nelson Longflap...and glad I did. The Barley would be too small except in ideal weather (for me) In the summer I use a Banana bag for tools,tube, wallet and phone but in the rainy Northwest I need capacity for rain gear and a change of clothing etc. for the other nine months of the year. I imagine a Barley would be a nice bag to leave on all year with perhaps another (maybe a front bag) to supplement. I rack my Nelson now and am in the process of building a spartan rack / bag support / light mount. This rack will be made with the idea of adding and extension piece for a full rack when I want to camp or whatever. Still working on the design...with bags more is better when you actually want to carry stuff. When you go big you find stuff to carry that you might actually need or want to make cycling more enjoyable and less of a stranded in the middle of nowhere without what you need athletic event. ; ) On Apr 17, 2:36 pm, Peter M uscpeter11...@gmail.com wrote: Thinking of getting a Carradice Barley saddlebag but wanted to ask if anyone here is running one currently and how they like it. Also do you need a bag support with this thing like the now discontinued Hupe, and will it work with a sprung Brooks like the B72? Thanks to any help anyone can offer. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/bgLIreamQBgJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Questions on Carradice Barley
My usual commuting bag is a Carradice Super C, which is similar in size to the Nelson and Camper but with plastic clips instead of straps and buckles. Much easier. Jay On Apr 18, 1:44 pm, doc gspi...@aol.com wrote: I found the Barley too small for day rides and went with the Pendle. For both bags I inserted hard plastic backing to help them maintain their shape (cut from cat litter tubs). For both sprung and unsprung saddles, a Midlands bag support at $7.00 works great and keeps them from swaying, plus prevents them rubbing up against the backs of my thighs. I love the looks of the Carradice, but I wish they had different fasteners than the traditional buckles. They can be cumbersome, especially in winter when wearing a pair of gloves. On Apr 17, 11:59 pm, charlie cl_v...@hotmail.com wrote: Thought of Barley until I purchased a Nelson Longflap...and glad I did. The Barley would be too small except in ideal weather (for me) In the summer I use a Banana bag for tools,tube, wallet and phone but in the rainy Northwest I need capacity for rain gear and a change of clothing etc. for the other nine months of the year. I imagine a Barley would be a nice bag to leave on all year with perhaps another (maybe a front bag) to supplement. I rack my Nelson now and am in the process of building a spartan rack / bag support / light mount. This rack will be made with the idea of adding and extension piece for a full rack when I want to camp or whatever. Still working on the design...with bags more is better when you actually want to carry stuff. When you go big you find stuff to carry that you might actually need or want to make cycling more enjoyable and less of a stranded in the middle of nowhere without what you need athletic event. ; ) On Apr 17, 2:36 pm, Peter M uscpeter11...@gmail.com wrote: Thinking of getting a Carradice Barley saddlebag but wanted to ask if anyone here is running one currently and how they like it. Also do you need a bag support with this thing like the now discontinued Hupe, and will it work with a sprung Brooks like the B72? Thanks to any help anyone can offer. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Questions on Carradice Barley
On Wednesday, April 18, 2012 3:48:29 AM UTC-7, newenglandbike wrote: Another vote for the barley being a tad small.Good bag, but other than tools/spare tube and a sweater you're not fitting much in there. For Carradice, my faves are the camper and camper longflap.BUT you should take a long hard look at a Saddlesack Medium or Large. Those bags combined with a nitto top rack are ridiculously useful and well designed. In my experience the Barley is the perfect size for all day explores. I had a medium Saddlesack; it's a great bag but I found it much bigger than I would need for less than several days out. I pack light and live in N. California, which has some weather but generally nothing too extreme. I use a Hupe, but it's to keep the bag back; I don't need it for tire clearance. jim m wc ca -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/PNVL-o4NCzgJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Questions on Carradice Barley
+1 for the SQR. I've owned at least three, probably more, and have sold them all after (cyclically) going back to rack+panniers, but I agree that for a QR mount, for a saddle that does not have saddlebag strap slots, and for bikes where you need to hold the bag high to gain more clearance over the rear tire, the SQR is the best solution I've found. Note that it does have a 10 kg/22 lb weight limit (per Carradice). Note also that you can, if you are careful and fastidious about pulling the straps as tight as you can, easily mount a saddlebag on the rails of a non-Brooks saddle -- the Hoss on my trike is so mounted and carries 30 lb loads easily and well. On Tue, Apr 17, 2012 at 3:55 PM, Michael Hechmer mhech...@gmail.com wrote: Carradice Barley and the Acorn Boxy Rando Bag are my two main bags. You can fit an amazing amount of stuff into a Barley Bag. I use mine with the Carradice SQR, which I also really like but I think if your bike is tall enough with enough seatpost to keep the bag off the fender or tire I you could get along without a support. Carradice makes a bag support that attaches to the saddle rails but I'm not sure if that would work with a sprung saddle, and some people have reported difficulty keeping it tight.. The SQR attaches to the seat post and is absolutely the quickest on off the bike you can get. I have an extra seat post attachment so I can move the bag between bikes. Harris Cycles carries all the parts. BTW, the Carradice site could lead you to believe that the SQR goes with an SQR designed bag; that's not true, almost any bag with saddle seatpost straps will work. It does allow some back and forth movement which I notice while climbing standing up, but there is no lateral movement at all. Short answer... a great bag. Michael On Tuesday, April 17, 2012 5:36:31 PM UTC-4, Peter M wrote: Thinking of getting a Carradice Barley saddlebag but wanted to ask if anyone here is running one currently and how they like it. Also do you need a bag support with this thing like the now discontinued Hupe, and will it work with a sprung Brooks like the B72? Thanks to any help anyone can offer. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/wCqR7ML38QYJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- - Patrick Moore, Albuquerque, NM For professional resumes, contact Patrick Moore, ACRW http://resumespecialties.com/index.html - A billion stars go spinning through the night Blazing high above your head; But in you is the Presence that will be When all the stars are dead. Ranier Maria Rilke, Buddha in Glory -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Questions on Carradice Barley
Peter, Only you can decide whether it is too small for your intended purpose. I have a Barley, a Lowsaddle Longflap, and a Nelson LF, and they all have different uses. The Barley is good for a day trip to bring extra clothing, some food, books, etc. Not really for carrying groceries or such. But, you will likely not need a rack or other support for it. It is small enough that if you ride a bike bigger than 52 or so, it probably won't rub the tire, and because of its size, you will probably not load it too heavily. I ride ~54 bikes, and I use a SQR for my LSLF. Greg On Tuesday, April 17, 2012 2:36:31 PM UTC-7, Peter M wrote: Thinking of getting a Carradice Barley saddlebag but wanted to ask if anyone here is running one currently and how they like it. Also do you need a bag support with this thing like the now discontinued Hupe, and will it work with a sprung Brooks like the B72? Thanks to any help anyone can offer. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/sxj2OxF0nPMJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Questions on Carradice Barley
Hi Peter, The Barley is the smallest Carradice bag. I use the Cadet, and think the Barley would be too small for me. I made some illustrations of the relative sizes of the smaller bags: http://www.biketinker.com/2011/bike-resources/relative-sizes-of-smaller-carradice-bags/ The next size up from the Cadet (last shown), is the Nelson Lowsaddle, which adds side pockets. Philip Philip Williamson www.biketinker.com On Tuesday, April 17, 2012 2:36:31 PM UTC-7, Peter M wrote: Thinking of getting a Carradice Barley saddlebag but wanted to ask if anyone here is running one currently and how they like it. Also do you need a bag support with this thing like the now discontinued Hupe, and will it work with a sprung Brooks like the B72? Thanks to any help anyone can offer. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/-rCqBziYVFsJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Questions on Carradice Barley
Awesome diagrams Phillip, those are helpful. Of course as is the often the case the deep info here from the group has made my choice all the more complicated, haha. But too many choices are always better than too few I say. Thanks all. Peter On Wed, Apr 18, 2012 at 1:14 PM, Philip Williamson philip.william...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Peter, The Barley is the smallest Carradice bag. I use the Cadet, and think the Barley would be too small for me. I made some illustrations of the relative sizes of the smaller bags: http://www.biketinker.com/2011/bike-resources/relative-sizes-of-smaller-carradice-bags/ The next size up from the Cadet (last shown), is the Nelson Lowsaddle, which adds side pockets. Philip Philip Williamson www.biketinker.com On Tuesday, April 17, 2012 2:36:31 PM UTC-7, Peter M wrote: Thinking of getting a Carradice Barley saddlebag but wanted to ask if anyone here is running one currently and how they like it. Also do you need a bag support with this thing like the now discontinued Hupe, and will it work with a sprung Brooks like the B72? Thanks to any help anyone can offer. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/-rCqBziYVFsJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Questions on Carradice Barley
Carradice Barley and the Acorn Boxy Rando Bag are my two main bags. You can fit an amazing amount of stuff into a Barley Bag. I use mine with the Carradice SQR, which I also really like but I think if your bike is tall enough with enough seatpost to keep the bag off the fender or tire I you could get along without a support. Carradice makes a bag support that attaches to the saddle rails but I'm not sure if that would work with a sprung saddle, and some people have reported difficulty keeping it tight.. The SQR attaches to the seat post and is absolutely the quickest on off the bike you can get. I have an extra seat post attachment so I can move the bag between bikes. Harris Cycles carries all the parts. BTW, the Carradice site could lead you to believe that the SQR goes with an SQR designed bag; that's not true, almost any bag with saddle seatpost straps will work. It does allow some back and forth movement which I notice while climbing standing up, but there is no lateral movement at all. Short answer... a great bag. Michael On Tuesday, April 17, 2012 5:36:31 PM UTC-4, Peter M wrote: Thinking of getting a Carradice Barley saddlebag but wanted to ask if anyone here is running one currently and how they like it. Also do you need a bag support with this thing like the now discontinued Hupe, and will it work with a sprung Brooks like the B72? Thanks to any help anyone can offer. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/wCqR7ML38QYJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Questions on Carradice Barley
The Barley Bag is very nice. I didn't need any support for it. The Barley fists quite nicely tucked under the saddle and strapped to the seat post. I have no information on the B72. On Apr 17, 2:36 pm, Peter M uscpeter11...@gmail.com wrote: Thinking of getting a Carradice Barley saddlebag but wanted to ask if anyone here is running one currently and how they like it. Also do you need a bag support with this thing like the now discontinued Hupe, and will it work with a sprung Brooks like the B72? Thanks to any help anyone can offer. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Questions on Carradice Barley
Yep. I'll agree with all points. The barley is a fantastic sized bag. It holds a surprising amount of stuff and I often call it my tardis bag. One aspect I really like are the two side pockets that allow for a bit of organization. I keep the right pocket packed with spare tube, patch kit, C02, and multi tool, the right one perfectly holds my digital camera for quick access. That leaves the main pouch open for food, clothes, entertainment, supplies etc. The Barley was the first bag I purchased and has done everything I've needed. I have loaded it to the gills and never used a bag support. It's close to the tire when stuffed, but never hit. PBH of 85. Previously mine 52 Bomba with the Barleyhttp://farm5.staticflickr.com/4046/4456242586_a716dfd4aa_z.jpg -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/Zed_aa5t7W0J. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Questions on Carradice Barley
My Carradice bags, Barley and Nelson LF, have seen quite a bit of use over the years: http://www.flickr.com/search/?w=41335973@N00q=carradice You definitely don't need supports with either of them. I picked up supports through Wiggle a few years ago because they were so cheap and they do make it easier to root around in the bag but they're not essential. One thing about the Barley is that it moves around a lot, especially when pedaling standing up. For day trips when you want to bring extra items it's great. I'm hoping to do an ultralight weekend trip later this year using just my Berthoud HB bag and the Nelson. I should be able to manage. --mike -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Questions on Carradice Barley
I have a Barley, no support needed for me on a 56 Riv Road. It's a nice size for a day ride in transitional weather, just big enough for the essentials and an extra layer or two of clothing. It's never been on a sprung Brooks, but have had my Nelson on a Champion Flyer. With the bag suspended from the sadldle loops, the springs cut way into the bag's capacity. I preferred it with the straps through the bottom coils of the springs even though it then sits more horizontal than I would like. The loop springs of a B72 may not pose so much of an issue. I don't think a Bagman would mount to a B72, so if you need a support the SQR would be the best bet. I suspect that on most bikes a Barley isn't big enough to rest on a Hupe. Bill Stockton, CA On Tuesday, April 17, 2012 2:36:31 PM UTC-7, Peter M wrote: Thinking of getting a Carradice Barley saddlebag but wanted to ask if anyone here is running one currently and how they like it. Also do you need a bag support with this thing like the now discontinued Hupe, and will it work with a sprung Brooks like the B72? Thanks to any help anyone can offer. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/RkDBMn14JcoJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Questions on Carradice Barley
Thought of Barley until I purchased a Nelson Longflap...and glad I did. The Barley would be too small except in ideal weather (for me) In the summer I use a Banana bag for tools,tube, wallet and phone but in the rainy Northwest I need capacity for rain gear and a change of clothing etc. for the other nine months of the year. I imagine a Barley would be a nice bag to leave on all year with perhaps another (maybe a front bag) to supplement. I rack my Nelson now and am in the process of building a spartan rack / bag support / light mount. This rack will be made with the idea of adding and extension piece for a full rack when I want to camp or whatever. Still working on the design...with bags more is better when you actually want to carry stuff. When you go big you find stuff to carry that you might actually need or want to make cycling more enjoyable and less of a stranded in the middle of nowhere without what you need athletic event. ; ) On Apr 17, 2:36 pm, Peter M uscpeter11...@gmail.com wrote: Thinking of getting a Carradice Barley saddlebag but wanted to ask if anyone here is running one currently and how they like it. Also do you need a bag support with this thing like the now discontinued Hupe, and will it work with a sprung Brooks like the B72? Thanks to any help anyone can offer. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
