[RBW] Re: Quickbeam vs Rambouillet weight
Both are 56cm On Apr 10, 11:01 pm, stanwas...@bellsouth.net wrote: If you don't mind my asking, what size are the bikes? Stan Columbia, SC - Original Message - From: usuk2007 clive.stand...@umassmed.edu To: RBW Owners Bunch rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Sent: Friday, April 10, 2009 8:34 AM Subject: [RBW] Quickbeam vs Rambouillet weight I weighed my Quickbeam and my Rambouillet last night and both came in at 25lbs. I was very surprised as I'd expected the Quickbeam to be a couple of pounds lighter. The Quickbeam is stock apart from having a double White Ind freewheel one one side and a 22t freewheel on the other. The Ram has White Ind MI5 hubs, Velocity Dyad rims and a big 11/34 Shimano cassette, XT RD and 105 FD. Both bikes have the same handlebar and saddle set ups.so why is the QB as heavy as the RAM No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG -www.avg.com Version: 8.0.238 / Virus Database: 270.11.50/2051 - Release Date: 04/09/09 19:01:00 --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: Quickbeam vs Rambouillet weight
My QB, stock except for Phil hubs (fixed/fixed) and Velocity rims, weighs in at 26 pounds (with a seat bag and a Nitto rack). --Eric www.wheelsnorth.org www.campyonly.com On Apr 10, 2009, at 5:34 AM, usuk2007 wrote: I weighed my Quickbeam and my Rambouillet last night and both came in at 25lbs. I was very surprised as I'd expected the Quickbeam to be a couple of pounds lighter. The Quickbeam is stock apart from having a double White Ind freewheel one one side and a 22t freewheel on the other. The Ram has White Ind MI5 hubs, Velocity Dyad rims and a big 11/34 Shimano cassette, XT RD and 105 FD. Both bikes have the same handlebar and saddle set ups.so why is the QB as heavy as the RAM --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: Quickbeam vs Rambouillet weight
On Fri, Apr 10, 2009 at 7:34 AM, usuk2007 clive.stand...@umassmed.edu wrote: I weighed my Quickbeam and my Rambouillet last night and both came in at 25lbs. I was very surprised as I'd expected the Quickbeam to be a couple of pounds lighter. The Quickbeam is stock apart from having a double White Ind freewheel one one side and a 22t freewheel on the other. The Ram has White Ind MI5 hubs, Velocity Dyad rims and a big 11/34 Shimano cassette, XT RD and 105 FD. Both bikes have the same handlebar and saddle set ups.so why is the QB as heavy as the RAM I'm not surprised by this, actually. Even average-quality modern cassettes and derailers don't really weigh that much, so the biggest difference between the bikes - the gearing - won't change the overall weight that much. It's a much more noticeable difference on an older singlespeed conversion project, where you might drop 5lb from the bike from two steel derailers, freewheel and steel chainrings. -- Bill Connell St. Paul, MN --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: Quickbeam vs Rambouillet weight
On Apr 10, 2009, at 5:34 AM, usuk2007 wrote: I weighed my Quickbeam and my Rambouillet last night and both came in at 25lbs. I was very surprised as I'd expected the Quickbeam to be a couple of pounds lighter. The Quickbeam is stock apart from having a double White Ind freewheel one one side and a 22t freewheel on the other. The Ram has White Ind MI5 hubs, Velocity Dyad rims and a big 11/34 Shimano cassette, XT RD and 105 FD. Both bikes have the same handlebar and saddle set ups.so why is the QB as heavy as the RAM The Rambouillet was built by Toyo and the Quickbeam by Panasonic. They have different lug-sets but also undoubtably different tube- sets. I'd be really surprised if they started life as frames of the same weight. I think that's why the similarity in built up weight. Phil B --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: Quickbeam vs Rambouillet weight
On Fri, Apr 10, 2009 at 5:34 AM, usuk2007 clive.stand...@umassmed.eduwrote: I weighed my Quickbeam and my Rambouillet last night and both came in at 25lbs. I was very surprised as I'd expected the Quickbeam to be a couple of pounds lighter. The Quickbeam is stock apart from having a double White Ind freewheel one one side and a 22t freewheel on the other. The Ram has White Ind MI5 hubs, Velocity Dyad rims and a big 11/34 Shimano cassette, XT RD and 105 FD. Both bikes have the same handlebar and saddle set ups.so why is the QB as heavy as the RAM LOL -- you're the one with the scale, you tell us! :-) Start stripping both bikes and weigh the components. And report back, because now I'm curious too. Horace. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: Quickbeam vs Rambouillet weight
...and I though I'd save all that work by picking the brains of the list. I'm not curious enough to start dismantling anything so I'll have to disappoint you...sorry On Apr 10, 1:23 pm, Horace max...@sdf.lonestar.org wrote: On Fri, Apr 10, 2009 at 5:34 AM, usuk2007 clive.stand...@umassmed.eduwrote: I weighed my Quickbeam and my Rambouillet last night and both came in at 25lbs. I was very surprised as I'd expected the Quickbeam to be a couple of pounds lighter. The Quickbeam is stock apart from having a double White Ind freewheel one one side and a 22t freewheel on the other. The Ram has White Ind MI5 hubs, Velocity Dyad rims and a big 11/34 Shimano cassette, XT RD and 105 FD. Both bikes have the same handlebar and saddle set ups.so why is the QB as heavy as the RAM LOL -- you're the one with the scale, you tell us! :-) Start stripping both bikes and weigh the components. And report back, because now I'm curious too. Horace. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: Quickbeam vs Rambouillet weight
In case y'all are weeping over the avoirdupois of your Quickbeams, know this: the frame 'n; fork of my 58 cm 2003 road custom is about 7 lb, IIRC. OTOH, it built up as a 18.75 lb gofast with no silly-light parts (1X10 drivetrain, Phil Ti bb, ti stem bolt, Dura Ace seatpost, Flite because I like Flites, Speedplay X-2s). Now it's a commuter with a fixed drivetrain, Honjos, MKS RX-1s with Somas and straps, and rack (Fly, 12 oz), not to mention the Honka Hoota, but it's still lighter than the 58 cm 1973 Motobecane Grand Record by a considerable margin, tho' the frame and fork of the M are lighter. Oh, the 559 wheels when built with Ultegra hubs weighed about 1550 grams. Now its Ultegra front and Surley rear. My gofast '99 Riv 57 cm 650c fixie weighed 17.75 lb until I swapped the X-2s for RX-1s and clips and straps. On Fri, Apr 10, 2009 at 1:13 PM, Patrick in VT psh...@drm.com wrote: the weight on that QB is surprising. my lugged steel fixie (531 tubes) comes in at about 20 lbs. I'm having another ss (mostly) built with pegorichie (columbus spirit for lugs) tubes, which should be lighter - but it will also sport derailers from time to time, a front rack, etc. so I expect it will be around 20-21 lbs. too when it's all decked out. -- Patrick Moore Albuquerque, NM Professional Resumes. Contact resumespecialt...@gmail.com --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: Quickbeam vs Rambouillet weight
If you don't mind my asking, what size are the bikes? Stan Columbia, SC - Original Message - From: usuk2007 clive.stand...@umassmed.edu To: RBW Owners Bunch rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Sent: Friday, April 10, 2009 8:34 AM Subject: [RBW] Quickbeam vs Rambouillet weight I weighed my Quickbeam and my Rambouillet last night and both came in at 25lbs. I was very surprised as I'd expected the Quickbeam to be a couple of pounds lighter. The Quickbeam is stock apart from having a double White Ind freewheel one one side and a 22t freewheel on the other. The Ram has White Ind MI5 hubs, Velocity Dyad rims and a big 11/34 Shimano cassette, XT RD and 105 FD. Both bikes have the same handlebar and saddle set ups.so why is the QB as heavy as the RAM No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.0.238 / Virus Database: 270.11.50/2051 - Release Date: 04/09/09 19:01:00 --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: Quickbeam vs Rambouillet weight
Yeah mine's a heffer too at 28lbs. http://tinyurl.com/43md96 60cm frame built up with my parts. I do have a Carrdice Barley on the back and a small Nitto rack and handlebar bag up front and two freewheels, plus the repair/patch kit and pump; oh and battery tail and headlights. I did take off the water bottles before I weighed it though. Maybe 28lbs for all that isn't too bad. I took my Quickbeam for a nice ride this Friday morning in celebration. I am a weather forecaster by profession. Through the cold season I rotate through Day shifts and Graveyards, but in the warm (fire) season its Day and Evening shifts. Friday at 5AM was the last of my Graveyards for the season. Instead of riding straight home, I headed downtown, then out along the Colorado River trail. Drainage winds were blowing briskly downvalley and there were warm advection high clouds partially blocking the full moon. But it was mild, around 50, and lovely. I rode until the eastern sky turned grey, then headed back to Main Street Bagels and had a pastry and juice for breakfast, eating it outside in the fresh air. Then I ambled back home to go to bed around 8AM. Nice way to end the trauma of shift work. Oh and my handlebar bag is a new Acorn Rando bag. Wow what a great, well-thought-out bag. I am really glad I splurged on it. The tan color is quite nice. On Apr 10, 6:34 am, usuk2007 clive.stand...@umassmed.edu wrote: I weighed my Quickbeam and my Rambouillet last night and both came in at 25lbs. I was very surprised as I'd expected the Quickbeam to be a couple of pounds lighter. The Quickbeam is stock apart from having a double White Ind freewheel one one side and a 22t freewheel on the other. The Ram has White Ind MI5 hubs, Velocity Dyad rims and a big 11/34 Shimano cassette, XT RD and 105 FD. Both bikes have the same handlebar and saddle set ups.so why is the QB as heavy as the RAM --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: Quickbeam vs Rambouillet weight
I too have the Acorn Rando bag - here are photos on the Quickbeam and Protovelo Custom. Great bags. http://www.flickr.com/photos/25671...@n02/3413155305/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/25671...@n02/3423446130/ On Apr 10, 9:42 pm, Mojo gjtra...@yahoo.com wrote: Yeah mine's a heffer too at 28lbs.http://tinyurl.com/43md96 60cm frame built up with my parts. I do have a Carrdice Barley on the back and a small Nitto rack and handlebar bag up front and two freewheels, plus the repair/patch kit and pump; oh and battery tail and headlights. I did take off the water bottles before I weighed it though. Maybe 28lbs for all that isn't too bad. I took my Quickbeam for a nice ride this Friday morning in celebration. I am a weather forecaster by profession. Through the cold season I rotate through Day shifts and Graveyards, but in the warm (fire) season its Day and Evening shifts. Friday at 5AM was the last of my Graveyards for the season. Instead of riding straight home, I headed downtown, then out along the Colorado River trail. Drainage winds were blowing briskly downvalley and there were warm advection high clouds partially blocking the full moon. But it was mild, around 50, and lovely. I rode until the eastern sky turned grey, then headed back to Main Street Bagels and had a pastry and juice for breakfast, eating it outside in the fresh air. Then I ambled back home to go to bed around 8AM. Nice way to end the trauma of shift work. Oh and my handlebar bag is a new Acorn Rando bag. Wow what a great, well-thought-out bag. I am really glad I splurged on it. The tan color is quite nice. On Apr 10, 6:34 am, usuk2007 clive.stand...@umassmed.edu wrote: I weighed my Quickbeam and my Rambouillet last night and both came in at 25lbs. I was very surprised as I'd expected the Quickbeam to be a couple of pounds lighter. The Quickbeam is stock apart from having a double White Ind freewheel one one side and a 22t freewheel on the other. The Ram has White Ind MI5 hubs, Velocity Dyad rims and a big 11/34 Shimano cassette, XT RD and 105 FD. Both bikes have the same handlebar and saddle set ups.so why is the QB as heavy as the RAM --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: Quickbeam vs Rambouillet weight
I was surprised at how stout my 62cm QB was when I first pulled it out of the box... I was expecting it to be lighter. My geared Riv Road is lighter, at least it feels that way without actually weighing it. On Fri, Apr 10, 2009 at 7:45 AM, usuk2007 clive.stand...@umassmed.eduwrote: Oops I have a small marks rack on the QB so that's about 12oz to take off still Ram 25lbs QB 24.25lbs, The QB seems heavy, is it the tubing or the rims and hubs?. The freewheels aren't light, but they can't be as much as a full cassette and those derailleurs... On Apr 10, 9:41 am, Eric Norris campyonly...@me.com wrote: My QB, stock except for Phil hubs (fixed/fixed) and Velocity rims, weighs in at 26 pounds (with a seat bag and a Nitto rack). --Ericwww.wheelsnorth.orgwww.campyonly.com On Apr 10, 2009, at 5:34 AM, usuk2007 wrote: I weighed my Quickbeam and my Rambouillet last night and both came in at 25lbs. I was very surprised as I'd expected the Quickbeam to be a couple of pounds lighter. The Quickbeam is stock apart from having a double White Ind freewheel one one side and a 22t freewheel on the other. The Ram has White Ind MI5 hubs, Velocity Dyad rims and a big 11/34 Shimano cassette, XT RD and 105 FD. Both bikes have the same handlebar and saddle set ups.so why is the QB as heavy as the RAM -- Cheers, David Redlands, CA --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: Quickbeam vs Rambouillet weight
Zugster is looking good: http://www.zugsterbags.com/blog/handlebar-bag-details On Fri, Apr 10, 2009 at 10:11 PM, Esteban proto...@gmail.com wrote: I too have the Acorn Rando bag - here are photos on the Quickbeam and Protovelo Custom. Great bags. http://www.flickr.com/photos/25671...@n02/3413155305/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/25671...@n02/3423446130/ On Apr 10, 9:42 pm, Mojo gjtra...@yahoo.com wrote: Yeah mine's a heffer too at 28lbs.http://tinyurl.com/43md96 60cm frame built up with my parts. I do have a Carrdice Barley on the back and a small Nitto rack and handlebar bag up front and two freewheels, plus the repair/patch kit and pump; oh and battery tail and headlights. I did take off the water bottles before I weighed it though. Maybe 28lbs for all that isn't too bad. I took my Quickbeam for a nice ride this Friday morning in celebration. I am a weather forecaster by profession. Through the cold season I rotate through Day shifts and Graveyards, but in the warm (fire) season its Day and Evening shifts. Friday at 5AM was the last of my Graveyards for the season. Instead of riding straight home, I headed downtown, then out along the Colorado River trail. Drainage winds were blowing briskly downvalley and there were warm advection high clouds partially blocking the full moon. But it was mild, around 50, and lovely. I rode until the eastern sky turned grey, then headed back to Main Street Bagels and had a pastry and juice for breakfast, eating it outside in the fresh air. Then I ambled back home to go to bed around 8AM. Nice way to end the trauma of shift work. Oh and my handlebar bag is a new Acorn Rando bag. Wow what a great, well-thought-out bag. I am really glad I splurged on it. The tan color is quite nice. On Apr 10, 6:34 am, usuk2007 clive.stand...@umassmed.edu wrote: I weighed my Quickbeam and my Rambouillet last night and both came in at 25lbs. I was very surprised as I'd expected the Quickbeam to be a couple of pounds lighter. The Quickbeam is stock apart from having a double White Ind freewheel one one side and a 22t freewheel on the other. The Ram has White Ind MI5 hubs, Velocity Dyad rims and a big 11/34 Shimano cassette, XT RD and 105 FD. Both bikes have the same handlebar and saddle set ups.so why is the QB as heavy as the RAM -- Cheers, David Redlands, CA --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
