[RBW] Re: Rambouillet purchase

2018-08-27 Thread Joe Bernard
Don't even wait. Hopefully you'll own it before you read this. 

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[RBW] Re: Rambouillet purchase

2018-08-26 Thread Drw
Totally. Not the craziest deal in the world but plenty fair. Have you ridden 
it? If you have and you like it, I don’t see any downsides. 

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[RBW] Re: Rambouillet purchase

2018-08-26 Thread Mike Packard
Perfect. I say throw in a few bottles of bubbly too.  

Mike
ATX

On Sunday, August 26, 2018 at 8:27:56 PM UTC-5, James Copp wrote:
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> He wants 1,200
>
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[RBW] Re: Rambouillet purchase

2018-08-26 Thread DarinM
That seems like a very reasonable price for the bike and build. That said, 
let me know if you want to unload those cranks after purchasing. You know, 
to recoup your costs and what not...

Darin

On Sunday, August 26, 2018 at 6:27:56 PM UTC-7, James Copp wrote:
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> He wants 1,200
>
> On Thursday, August 23, 2018 at 9:50:58 PM UTC-4, Joe Bernard wrote:
>>
>> What does he want for it? It'd be easier to judge his asking price than 
>> just make up one of our own. 
>
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[RBW] Re: Rambouillet purchase

2018-08-26 Thread James Copp
He wants 1,200

On Thursday, August 23, 2018 at 9:50:58 PM UTC-4, Joe Bernard wrote:
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> What does he want for it? It'd be easier to judge his asking price than 
> just make up one of our own. 

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[RBW] Re: Rambouillet purchase

2018-08-26 Thread 'Abcyclehank' via RBW Owners Bunch
Drw,

Or one could say it speaks to the value Julian sees that he provides to those 
lucky enough to be his friends.  I would easily sacrifice $500 for the type of 
friendship list members here offer vs my “other” so called friends.

Perspective is everything.

Sincerely,
Ryan “quality over quantity” Hankinson
West Michigan

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[RBW] Re: Rambouillet purchase

2018-08-26 Thread Julian Westerhout
Drw, 

Ha. It seems it's a costly proposition to be your friend! 

:) 

Julian Westerhout
Bloomington, IL 


On Saturday, August 25, 2018 at 10:15:33 PM UTC-5, Drw wrote:
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> If I wanted a ram, and one in that condition with those parts was being 
> offered, I’d happily pay 1500$.  If a friend was selling it, I’d make him 
> sell it to me for 1000$ and be even happier. 

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[RBW] Re: Rambouillet purchase

2018-08-25 Thread Fullylugged
Correction: You have the later lugs

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[RBW] Re: Rambouillet purchase

2018-08-25 Thread Fullylugged
Orange was the 1st run of Toyo made frames.  Somewhat less than 1200 total were 
made in all 3 colors over the model run and the serial # on the  underside of 
the BB shell will give you some idea of where in the sequence yours was.  Yours 
has nice lugs. Later lugs were simpler. The Logic cranks are desireable. I'd 
say $1,400 would be a great price to get that bike at.  All Rams have a 
slightly sloped TT and heat treated DT and CS. ST, TT and ST are not heat 
treated.  Mine is the second run of French Blue and is #841. I bought it new 
and am closing in on 15,000 happy miles. It needs a new paint job, due to the 
dings and nicks of normal wear, but is still a sound riding bike. It's 
currently set up as a city bike and gets a lot of Sunday social ride use, as 
well as after dinner easy neighborhood rambles. With Pasela 1 1/2" tires, it's 
smooth, and can still easily cruise along in a paceline, if that is what I want 
to do. 

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[RBW] Re: Rambouillet purchase

2018-08-24 Thread Saturday Mark
My Ram is same color. I think the year is 2003-2004. I don't recall 
exactly. This looks like a solid build and the 1000-1500 range seems about 
right. (Although it would take more than that for me to let go of mine) 
These are japan made, and the color is beautiful.

On Thursday, August 23, 2018 at 5:57:21 PM UTC-7, James Copp wrote:
>
> Hi friends,
>
> I am seeking help appraising a Rambouillet, and looking for details on the 
> frame in regards to year made and location.  A friend has offered to sell 
> me his 58cm Rambouillet before he posts it publicly.  It includes
> Nitto Stem
> Nitto Bars
> Velo Orange Seat Post
> Brooks Saddle
> New Shwalbe Tires
> Mavic Open Pro Rims
> Ultegra derailurs
> Tekrto R538 Brakes
> Its an 8 speed in the back, 3 in the front
>
> The frame has cosmetic damages
>
> What is a fair price for this ride?  I am new to the Rivendell world. 
>  Thank you.
>
> (I attached a photo)
>

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[RBW] Re: Rambouillet purchase

2018-08-24 Thread Greg J
I agree with the other comments.  I think the Rambouillet is a tremendous 
value these days, because it is not as fashionable, with their caliper 
brakes and level top tubes. Riv seems to have evolved in their design away 
from this look.

But they can fit pretty wide tires (35-ish) and handle beautifully. And 
made by Toyo, which is a top notch framemaker.  And it looks very clean and 
well-taken-care-of.  I'd say $1000 is a steal, $1250 is a fair deal, and 
even at $1500 well worth it if you like everything on it.  The Ritchey 
cranks are low-Q and very nice.  Those Ultegra/OP wheels are (again) not 
the current fashion necessarily but are solid great wheels and fine for up 
to 35mm tires.  

Full disclosure--my wife has that same color Ramb with similar components, 
and she loves hers.   

Good luck!
Greg in Oakland

On Thursday, August 23, 2018 at 5:57:21 PM UTC-7, James Copp wrote:
>
> Hi friends,
>
> I am seeking help appraising a Rambouillet, and looking for details on the 
> frame in regards to year made and location.  A friend has offered to sell 
> me his 58cm Rambouillet before he posts it publicly.  It includes
> Nitto Stem
> Nitto Bars
> Velo Orange Seat Post
> Brooks Saddle
> New Shwalbe Tires
> Mavic Open Pro Rims
> Ultegra derailurs
> Tekrto R538 Brakes
> Its an 8 speed in the back, 3 in the front
>
> The frame has cosmetic damages
>
> What is a fair price for this ride?  I am new to the Rivendell world. 
>  Thank you.
>
> (I attached a photo)
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: Rambouillet purchase

2018-08-24 Thread Jim Bronson
This frame is a good 650b conversion candidate, or Bon Jon Pass with no
fenders.  Build looks like high quality parts.  I'd agree in the
$1000-$1500 range, the better the paint, the higher in that range it would
be worth.

On Fri, Aug 24, 2018 at 11:09 AM Richard Rios 
wrote:

> I'd say between 1000-1500$. The Ram is a tremendous value IMHO. Especially
> if you compare it against Rivs current road offerings. Might also just be
> me and I know there has been talk that all frames are the same
> quality...but just from a totally novice looking from the outside
> perspective the couple of toyo made frames I have seemed nicer...I
> personally would rank them Toyo, Tawain / maxway?, waterford... I'd say buy
> it and dont look back. I know the uber fat road tires are the momentary
> cats meow but a nice 32-35 road tire on a great road bike will always have
> its place. Just my .02.
>
> Best
> Richard
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[RBW] Re: Rambouillet purchase

2018-08-24 Thread Richard Rios
I'd say between 1000-1500$. The Ram is a tremendous value IMHO. Especially if 
you compare it against Rivs current road offerings. Might also just be me and I 
know there has been talk that all frames are the same quality...but just from a 
totally novice looking from the outside perspective the couple of toyo made 
frames I have seemed nicer...I personally would rank them Toyo, Tawain / 
maxway?, waterford... I'd say buy it and dont look back. I know the uber fat 
road tires are the momentary cats meow but a nice 32-35 road tire on a great 
road bike will always have its place. Just my .02.

Best 
Richard

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[RBW] Re: Rambouillet purchase

2018-08-24 Thread Jock Dewey
Ooops! Sorry...this is RBW! 

What WAS I thinking? I guess: not.

JD

On Friday, August 24, 2018 at 10:39:39 AM UTC-4, Jock Dewey wrote:
>
> Hey, RAMBob:
>
> Looks like an older one, from the shop in Japan. You also forgot to 
> mention LOGIC chainset, and by looks of markings, ridden quite carefully. 
> Chips don't show in pix, so must be incidental. 
>
> I think enough of mine that JB repainted it a couple years ago...absolute 
> perfection so far as it exists. Now 14 years old and better than ever. BTW, 
> I've comfortably installed 35mm Bon Jon Pass on OP rims with P45 mudguards, 
> too. Probably even more room with Honjo...tho 35s seem just too wide for my 
> sensibilities here. The RAM sweet spot is 32 IMHO.
>
> My son in LA recently found one for $1600, but it was 'as new'. Not a 
> blemish on it. He didn't steal it, but might as well have.
>
> BEST / Jock Dewey / Athens, GA
>
>
>
> On Thursday, August 23, 2018 at 8:57:21 PM UTC-4, James Copp wrote:
>>
>> Hi friends,
>>
>> I am seeking help appraising a Rambouillet, and looking for details on 
>> the frame in regards to year made and location.  A friend has offered to 
>> sell me his 58cm Rambouillet before he posts it publicly.  It includes
>> Nitto Stem
>> Nitto Bars
>> Velo Orange Seat Post
>> Brooks Saddle
>> New Shwalbe Tires
>> Mavic Open Pro Rims
>> Ultegra derailurs
>> Tekrto R538 Brakes
>> Its an 8 speed in the back, 3 in the front
>>
>> The frame has cosmetic damages
>>
>> What is a fair price for this ride?  I am new to the Rivendell world. 
>>  Thank you.
>>
>> (I attached a photo)
>>
>

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[RBW] Re: Rambouillet purchase

2018-08-23 Thread Don Compton
Assuming no dents, no rust, just a few scratches ( dropouts, chain stay ) 
and components are in working order, $ 1000-1200. I have seen them go for 
less, but those purchases were a steal.

On Thursday, August 23, 2018 at 5:57:21 PM UTC-7, James Copp wrote:
>
> Hi friends,
>
> I am seeking help appraising a Rambouillet, and looking for details on the 
> frame in regards to year made and location.  A friend has offered to sell 
> me his 58cm Rambouillet before he posts it publicly.  It includes
> Nitto Stem
> Nitto Bars
> Velo Orange Seat Post
> Brooks Saddle
> New Shwalbe Tires
> Mavic Open Pro Rims
> Ultegra derailurs
> Tekrto R538 Brakes
> Its an 8 speed in the back, 3 in the front
>
> The frame has cosmetic damages
>
> What is a fair price for this ride?  I am new to the Rivendell world. 
>  Thank you.
>
> (I attached a photo)
>

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[RBW] Re: Rambouillet purchase

2018-08-23 Thread sameness
I'll take a stab at it. 

Assuming the stem length, handlebar shape and width, and the gearing worked 
for me, and all I needed were incidentals like new cables, brake pads, and 
a chain, I'd be happy to part with about $1K-ish. Ebay seems to agree with 
me.

I always assume I'll be changing the tires anyway. Saddle and pedals 
included would be a big plus. Another big plus for me would be the Ritchey 
cranks. Not so sure if I could live with those blue rims and nipples, but 
eye of the beholder and all that.

As far as cosmetic damage is concerned, so long there are no spooky dings 
or rust, I actively seek the shelter mutts. Garage queens seem to command 
the king's ransom.

Just my two cents, playing with your wallet!

Jeff Hagedorn
Los Angeles, CA USA

On Thursday, August 23, 2018 at 5:57:21 PM UTC-7, James Copp wrote:
>
> Hi friends,
>
> I am seeking help appraising a Rambouillet, and looking for details on the 
> frame in regards to year made and location.  A friend has offered to sell 
> me his 58cm Rambouillet before he posts it publicly.  It includes
> Nitto Stem
> Nitto Bars
> Velo Orange Seat Post
> Brooks Saddle
> New Shwalbe Tires
> Mavic Open Pro Rims
> Ultegra derailurs
> Tekrto R538 Brakes
> Its an 8 speed in the back, 3 in the front
>
> The frame has cosmetic damages
>
> What is a fair price for this ride?  I am new to the Rivendell world. 
>  Thank you.
>
> (I attached a photo)
>

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